Let's talk about our ideal matriarchal new world order story settings where women are taller, bigger, stronger and smarter than men and men are women's subjects.

Some older threads:
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/d.desu.meta/text/matriarchal%20new%20world/type/op/

My matriarchal new world order story settings:
https://archiveofourown.org/works/64984711
https://archiveofourown.org/works/65580361

>>11302001 (OP)
I've seen premises like this before, but I like the focus on the physical aspects. Particularly the early blooming.

https://archived.moe/d/thread/10471861/#10471861

>>11302005
>I like the focus on the physical aspects
My stories also focus at physical aspects, with the huge physical differences between women and men causing the matriarchal new world order.

>>11302001 (OP)
Woo my favourite kind of setting.

This is pretty much exclusively the kind of story I write too! In my settings women are always physically larger, more assertive, stronger both physically and mentally, with huge voluptuous venusoid bodies. I tend heavily towards the mommydom archetype for female doms, gentle femdom but with dark undertones.

I love presenting stories where the main character doesn't realise they're already doomed from the start. They struggle and resist only to realise just how absurdly the odds are stacked against them when women control them in every single possible feasible way.

Boys exist to be pampered and loved, to be coddled, condescendingly and maternally nurtured and cared for - whether they like it or not. Any resistance is futile and seen as little more than the fussiness of a child.

That cloying, sickly sweet feeling of being controlled, of having no agency or independence whatsoever, is what I strive to achieve in my work. I love the idea of women having such total and utter control that they have no reason to be abusive or cruel. They're benevolent because they control everything so completely that there's no reason to be cruel. If a woman had to resort to violence that would suggest that there was even the faintest, remotest possibility of their submissive having the slightest chance of escape or resistance - which is a laughable notion.

Women are smug and haughty, as they have every right to be. They passively observe with knowing grins as they watch those beneath them futilely struggle, finding it so amusing that they think they have any chance of defiance. They know all they have to do is scoop them up and subject them to an endless barrage of teasing and orgasms, whispering in their ear to break down their feeble mental resistance, and they'll melt.

I love working with power dynamics, layers of control on top of one another. Also, huge tits, thick thighs, and obviously lots and lots of mommy domming.

>>11302013
You could say I am extremely interested to read more.

>>11302030
They're the ones I posted at OP post:
https://archiveofourown.org/works/64984711
https://archiveofourown.org/works/65580361

>>11302028
>This is pretty much exclusively the kind of story I write too
Can you post links for these stories of yours?

>>11302031
Ah ok cool cheers!

If anyone's looking for my stories I post on literotica, deviantart and AO3, same name everywhere.

https://archiveofourown.org/users/mrwriterfromd/works

Also clothing entrapment/shared clothing/nininbaori/whatever this kink is called is the hottest kink and nobody can convince me otherwise.

>>11302032
Yeah sorry I got a bit carried away and ran out of character limit lol

see here
>>11302033

>>11302028
>I love the idea of women having such total and utter control that they have no reason to be abusive or cruel. They're benevolent because they control everything so completely that there's no reason to be cruel. If a woman had to resort to violence that would suggest that there was even the faintest, remotest possibility of their submissive having the slightest chance of escape or resistance - which is a laughable notion.
That's the kind of stuff I also have at my stories settings I've posted at OP post and unfortunately you rarely (or almost never) meet at matriarchal NWO stories with them being obsessed with unnecessary cruelty. Although the only kind of cruelty I have to my stories are spankings with them being the only form of violence that giant women use against tiny men.

>You tell yourself you're going to stand up to her, to tell her you're a man and deserve to be treated like one.
She smiles at you like a child bringing her a drawing.
>You tell her you're an adult and she needs to stop treating you like her pet.
She lifts the covers and invites you to come talk with her in bed.
>You refuse, but now you're looking at her naked body it's so much harder to remember all your carefully thought out and worded arguments.
She giggles and thinks its so cute how aroused you get just by seeing her massive tits. She says it's okay if you can't remember everything you needed to say, you can just come and snuggle with her in bed until you can remember.
>You feel decades of mental and physical conditioning kick in and your feet are moving on their own.
She easily removes and discards the flimsy material of the skimpy outfit which is all she lets you wear, and forcefully shoves your face between her massive tits before firmly lodging your cock between her thighs.
>You try to speak but everything is just a muffled, garbled mess between her cleavage, her tits so big they easily envelop your entire head.
She gently strokes your back and asks what it was you wanted to talk about, even as you begin to mindlessly rut into her thick, fat thighs so readily lubricated by her pussy.
>You feel your worries and cares melting away as she possessively wraps her arms around you.
She smiles. Eventually you'll stop asking questions. Eventually you'll forget what life was ever like before this.

>>11302041
I just can't get on board with cruelty. It's just not for me. Oddly I've got no issue with gaslighting, mental manipulation, lovebombing, stockholm syndrome, mind control, drugging, rape, but the second they're mean about it is when it's too much for me. Go figure.

>>11302053
I'm kinda like that too.

>>11302031
I ve made countless rewrites for these stories of mine since i couldnt make up my mind for my ideal stories settings. and recently i finally completed them. the only part i still cant make up my mind about is if i should keep the spanking part or not.

>>11302001 (OP)
Imagine if women were taller, stronger, smarter, more assertive, etc., but their brains are still wired up differently and their bodies are still different in order to allow for things like pregnancy, childbirth, breastfeeding, etc. Women might take on more physical jobs like policing and construction, and receive extra support and maternity leave while pregnant.
Meanwhile, men are shorter and weaker, but much more hung and virile. This makes them still end up in leadership roles, but also get raped constantly by women.

Any recommended giantess matriarchal new world order stories? Mostly at ArchiveOfOurOwn since stories at sites like GiantessWorld are mostly safe horny with them being obsessed with milf x younger men stuff and mother x son stuff but avoiding other "problematic" themes.

>>11302039
There should be a kind of token Olympics for men where the champion in a given sport gets invited to a personal training session with his superior in the women's section. She'll pepper him with compliments about his technique as he quickly gets worn out by what for her is a "light" training regime. Eventually he'll pass out and dream about the female Olympian he tried to train with cheering him on like a proud older sister as he breaks a (men's) record.

>>11302502
I love that, very wholesome and sweet.

>>11302001 (OP)
I'm working on a new giantess story setting similar with Gigantissocracy. But with giant girls being a minority and while femdom element still exists there is no matriarchal nwo stuff. Matriarchal families will still exist but the relationship dynamic will depend on the family and the giant girls.

>>11302053
I think it's about the lust or affection being warped and made extreme, overwhelming and controlling
The deliberate torture for its own sake seems just like regular, almost generic sadism or BDSM stuff that's kinda uncomfortable or unappealing
I think the Monster Girl Encyclopedia setting kinda had it best in pieces that were more about it being rape, just having your free will violated out of you by a woman-shaped beast that had no concept of consent. You're as much their victim as their lover, and you can't expect to easily fight back against it, at least not forever.

I think a lot of women already have fiction about submitting (willingly or unwillingly) to the care of a character that ranges from a more powerful but gentle suitor to an overwhelming, possessive, deranged sex fiend, and this is fetish just some overlap that both can find hot but express in different ways
On that note, imagine comforting a normally-terrifying amazoness who has a breakdown and confides to you how hard and lonely it is to uphold her image as a tough girl, and how no bf would willingly approach a scar-covered thicc musclebound thug like her

Or imagine having a mini-giantess gf who wants to have a loving relationship but both instinctively and culturally is primed to try and rape you senseless, almost certain to give in and completely victimize you if she thinks it's the only way to make you hers

>>11302033
Oh hey, I know you. Someone mentioned your story on a nightmare waifu thread like a year ago I think. I really liked the harpy woman story you wrote. That scene when the guy is caught trying to escape from her nest and the lady has a total personality shift is so memorable.

>>11302665
Aw cool! Thanks so much! I hope you enjoyed it. A lot of my dommes wind up going a little bit crazy like that from time to time. Let me know if you ever read any of my other work I'd love to hear any feeback.

>>11302534
Nah, screw that. I'll only stick with the giantess stories settings I've already written. The only new stories I want to write are ones that take place in Gigantissolatry universe.

>>11302001 (OP)
Finally! I was waiting so long for another one of these.
I'll continue the world-building exercise I had going on last thread. Here are the posts, if anyone is interested:
https://desuarchive.org/d/thread/11149855/#q11188858
https://desuarchive.org/d/thread/11149855/#q11188962
https://desuarchive.org/d/thread/11149855/#q11189723
https://desuarchive.org/d/thread/11149855/#q11190364
>>11302497
MNWO is the definition of safe horny, so I don't know what you expected. There is literally no expression of Male sexuality less threatening aside from I guess getting off to being castrated.

>>11304110
>MNWO is the definition of safe horny
?

>>11304141
At least how I define the term. Nothing very threatening about a fetish where women are by definition above you.

>>11304456
Meh, probably because most of the creators aren't very creative about it. I've seen some pretty edgy/interesting ideas for a matriarchy.

>>11304611
Probably true.
>I've seen some pretty edgy/interesting ideas for a matriarchy.
Do tell, please.

Relevant "games" (more like dating sim's/VNs) if anyone's interested;
- Android LIFE [MateDolce]
- Mutual Corruption [Broken_Tomboy_dev]
- I don't wanna be a boytoy! [TheDarkMaster]
- Twisted World [SnatsGames]; note this ones maledom
- SEQUEL (Series) [Leaf Geometry]; sort of relevant

>>11304642
>Twisted World [SnatsGames]
Snats got greedy and restarted.

>>11304611
We try our best but yeah it's hard to push yourself out of your comfort zone sometimes.

I'd love to hear your ideas though anon! Worldbuilding is fun.

>>11304617
>>11304698
There's an /anthro females dominating human male/ general on /trash/ that loves brainstorming worldbuilding for their femdom setting (a little too much imo, sometimes they fall into the worldbuilding trap with not enough stories). Now, I don't like furry shit either, but having a species of women that are stronger than human men for believable reasons lends itself to the matriarchy idea very easily.
Not going to say every story that comes out of there is good, but some of them are alright. Edgy stuff usually.

Also, I'd like to shill Chomoran for a moment. Pretty good femdom artist. His ladies are these goddesses who're just filled with the maternal instinct to squeeze men until they're mind broken. There's also a kind of horror element to his doujins that supplements his femdom really well. Picrel is some otherworldly alien who sees humans as some cute pet like creatures. Story ends with him getting mindraped into an "unbreakable" (Idk what that means, did she turn him immortal? Kinda hot) pet for the angel. She later releases a bunch of monster girls on earth who do the same for other humans. Pretty edgy yet interesting stuff I think.
Now that I think about it, she's like a much more aggressive version of the aliens from>>11304698#story about the twilight zone aliens.
>>11304642#
>maledom
What exactly is this general about?
I used to play Tower of Trample before it fell into dev hell. Pretty fun game.

>>11304836
Chomoran is amazing. I love their use of physical proportions, they smother guys not just with their tits but their whole mass. <3

>>11304836
A new species/gender is a cool idea. You could do a lot with that in a story. I seem to recall it's been done once before with futanari in a setting but can't find the story now sadly.

>>11302033
I adore your stories, and look forward to your future works.

>>11304898
Thank you so much!!! I've just started publishing my latest story on literotica a few days ago but the whole thing is up on Ao3 or my own website if you want to read it.

If you like plant girls you'll like it.

>>11304895
Are you talking about the old futadomworld general?

>>11305521
Maybe it came from there? I remember it being on literotica somewhere though. This was a long time ago though so don't trust my memory on it.

Picturd really is the master of "futa new world order" tho.

>tall girl pinning and lifting you with her thigh
This is like, one of the hottest poses known to man.
>>11305534
>Picturd really is the master of "futa new world order" tho.
Meh, not a big fan of the "feminizing" trend. I like the idea of being turned helpless for some big mommy type character to take advantage of, but the idea of feminization is just strange and also, kinda against the idea of a matriarchy imo. Like, logically, shouldn't the feminine be above being masculine? So becoming more feminine should be a good thing, right? Idk. Too many mental gymnastics. Also it's just gay.

>>11305618
Like, at times, I like the idea of losing power and turning into some shota-type thst gets ara-ara'd, but also, I'd also feel insecure about my waifu leaving me, y'know? It's like a catch-22.

>>11305618
Yeah it would be nice if futa on male didn't have to involve chastity and feminization and sissification.

>>11305624
Right? For some reason it's so inextricably tied to it. It makes me question enjoying any futa on male work cuz I know it can just devolve into it at any point. Futas are cool because they're basically genuine goddesses. Mistresses of both worlds. It'd be cool to be desired/dommed by one of them.

>>11305640
Agreed. I've not delved into futa much in my work but if/when I do I'll be avoiding that stuff.

>>11305618
>Meh, not a big fan of the "feminizing" trend.
Yeah, enough of this feminizing garbage. We need masculizing garbage.
>Put down those books, silly, those are for women. Come lift your weights so you can become a better servant. Thaaaaats right, good boy!

>>11305640
Also what's this from its lovely.

>>11305650
[Kakuzatou]Volley-bu to Manager Oda | The Volleyball Club and Manager Oda

>>11305739
Thanks!

Anyone thought about a super intelligent AI being the reason for the MNWO?
I remember playing boko877's reverse ryona game which was sort of similar. I can't remember the exact plot details and it was a shitty mtl back then, but:
>play as hero after he defeats the demon lord
>lots of powerful women have been showing up
>somehow even stronger than the hero who defeated the demon lord
>the only advantage the hero has is his cheat ability that nulls all magic (including his own) which can prevent magic attacks from women (they can still physically beat him up)
>hero finds out that somehow, regular ass girls can beat him up now
>looks into it and finds out that the magical energy in the world has been rising rapidly since the demon lord was defeated and since women are naturally more attuned to magic, they're quickly becoming monstrously powerful to the point that even the hero is being rekt by average women
>stuff happens as the hero tries to find out what's going on until he comes across a laboratory
>apparently women were already super powerful a long time ago when magic was first introduced
>men created a system/AI that would drain all the magic from the world.
>this system was the actual demon lord which the hero had unknowingly defeated thus releasing all the magic back into the world
>turns out he hadn't actually killed the demon lord, it was just that the machine was powered down or something idk
>he turns it back on thus releasing the demon lord
>demon lord bullies him for a while until hero uses his cheat ability again to remove all the magic from the area and is able to stall the demon lord
>hero realizes that the world needs the demon lord in order to keep the magic at a manageable level but also that the demon lord can't get too powerful either
>vows to visit her regularly to "fight" her to maintain the balance
>"fight" being in quotes since picrel is how she fights him

>>11306247

>>11306247
>>11306248
Love how smug and cute she looks lol.

>>11302001 (OP)
I'd like for the gender roles to be completely swapped and everything resulting from that, that's it.
Yes I want to know what's like to be groped and sexually harassed by women in public, having them publicly talk about how much they'd blow xyz out and needing to flick the bean when they come back home. I want to let myself be turned into the bicycle of the town and be hit on by so many women wanting to satisfy their urges with a mediocre-looking guy.

No one's reading your story nigga

>>11306248
>>11306247
I feel like I should go replay Girl Beats Hero

How much bigger than men would the women in your matriarchy ideally be?

>>11308277
Your head is at her pelvis.

>>11304110
Mutterrecht. Household arrangements, Values, Childcare.

Generally, clans in Mutterrecht organize themselves in households that either live close together in separate dwellings or share a single large communal 'longhouse' type building or closely linked multi-story houses if Urban. The number of individual families that may reside in one of these units varies between ethnic group and individual clan.
Resources and property are generally communal, however each individual family has an amount of personal property managed by the woman. Now, as stewardship, nurturing, child-rearing, are a woman's chief obligations, how well this personal property is taken care of (as well as its relative size), and how well the children are raised, is a determinant factor of a woman's social status within the clan and society at large.

Childcare and Motherhood in Mutterrecht is popularly conceived as not only spanning providing for and educating a child, but also directing the course of their life and preventing their fall into disease and unhealthy traits (more on this later); it is believed to be the deciding factor in how a child will turn out.

>>11308278
nice, personally I go for about breast height

>>11308293
Ooooh I like it. Are they by any chance absurdly overprotective and possessive? <3

>>11308293
Domestic politics, disputes. Pic very related in this case.

As previously established, these clans have an internal hierarchy based, among other things, on the number of children and subsequently the size of the body. This internal hierarchy is an arena of fierce social competition, and these women will do anything to bring down their rivals. These disputes are just as physical as they are political. With rivals often attempting to intimidate eachother with their attributes. Some going as far as to engage in competitions to outpace the others development.
But they also have a social an economic dimension, where women will try to mobilize their resources and friends to subdue their rival.
It so happens that a woman can be dispossesed of her own children and most of her property if the matriarch (or the clan at large) judges her to be unfit to manage them. Essentially disgracing her in the eyes of society.

While disputes of this type often turn violent, it rarely escalates to anything more than slaps and scratches. Though verbal sparring is near constant. Thes edisputes last long through time. Invariably, the victor becomes apparent as she outgrows her rival. The defeated woman is not often stripped of her children and property. Usually, she is just banned form having children for a few years.

>>11308277
Foot and a half or two or three feet taller at most.
>>11308321
Not necessarily. Some may be, I assume.

>>11308361
I like it. Intricate heirarchies fit well with the theme.

>>11308392
I just like the idea of two massive bitches fighting desu

An idea that's been turning around in my head is a world where the female to male ratio is like 5 to 1, and there are no male only spaces (bathrooms, dorms, locker rooms, saunas, everything is unisex). Every guy is generally going to be surrounded by girls, even when living with roomates.

There's a lot of female chauvinism. And what's more, girls tend to get along really well and don't mind sharing. So they're quick to gang up on guys for a sexual fix or other mutual benefit.

>>11310666
I love that. What would be the cause of the ratio imbalance in your mind? Would girls be naturally inclined to be protective of boys and coddling or would they instead become more possessive and manipulative?

>>11310666
To further elaborate on this idea, I'm basically imagining the small male population being at the mercy of women due to strength in numbers.
Society is set up so that guys are universally spread out among living spaces per capita. There isn't really any place with a high enough concentration of men to come anywhere close to evening the scales.
Usually, you'll live surrounded by female roomates/neighbors, go to a mostly female school/workplace, and be similarly outnumbered in public with no sort of "boys only" area to retreat to.
Girls generally don't respect guys and have a strong sense of comradery with each other. Banding together to get the better of guys/keep the males down is deeply engrained in the culture.
Your female coworkers WILL be colluding to keep at the bottom of the totem pole, fetching coffee for girls years behind you in seniority. The girls you live around are going to be pulling pranks like stealing your clothes and doing funny stuff with your food all the time. The woman you midly annoy on the train is going to have her friends hold you down while she spanks you. And you could just be minding your business outside when a group of girls decides you'll be a perfect addition to the male entertainment of their party.

>>11310666
>>11311321
For fetish purposes sure that sounds like it could be hot. But if your purpose is rational hard worldbuilding while maintaining human psychology I don't think it's really sound to have a human population with that sort of gender skew.
Humans are a Trivers-Willard species. And that goes a lot deeper than just the fact that we have a high natural birth ratio of males to females (nearly 106:100, exceptionally high even by the standards of mammals).
It affects the biochemistry of breastmilk production. Mothers make different milk for sons than for daughters depending on available resource abundance.
This stuff goes DEEP, dude.
It would be extreme enough to model the fantasy after species of birds which have a reverse Trivers-Willard effect, even though their reversed birth ratio gap is smaller than ours. Like those eagles where the male is notably extremely monogamous by avian standards.

>>11311325
Yeah I'm really just thinking of this for fetish purposes. Its kinda supposed to be a bizzaro world where shit just works like that.

>>11304698
source for that image

>>11302050
Jesus this kind of stuff just melts me, feels like I'm about to have an out of body experience or some shit.
It's like being strapped in tight with restraints made out of warm honey and soft satin and lavender. They feel amazing. But make no mistake, you are not moving a single inch.

>>11311640
No idea sorry I saved it ages ago.

>>11311649
>It's like being strapped in tight with restraints made out of warm honey and soft satin and lavender. They feel amazing. But make no mistake, you are not moving a single inch.

For sure. That's the kind of feeling I try to go for in my work. Aside from when characters are very literally in bondage I like exploring the idea of mental control through manipulation, seduction, etc. Who needs rope when someone's so turned on at the sight of you they forget why they wanted to escape?

If I had one wish in the sexual realm to bring forth IRL, it'd be to make womens asses unbearably pleasurable erogenous zones.

This would domino into several other effects almost overnight, shifting the balance of power in the world.

>Women with bigger asses will naturally feel more pleasure. Fat asses are in, biologically.
>Women are basically perma horny, squirming in their seats often. Even the most professional "GIRLBOSS" Types need to excuse themselves from meetings to fap their brains out.
>The old addage of "Don't spend any time with a woman you don't know alone, she might accuse you of SA" Became "She'll SA you with her ass until she's satisfied"

World governments convene to figure this out. Birth rates are down because all women wanna do is buttjob men constantly. Rape is up absurdly and it's all women, now with larger behinds, forcing themselves on men. Men can't take so much as a walk in the woods alone because if they encounter a woman, it's on.

Some men resort to perma chastity in order to keep the world running without fear, this largely worked because the wish didn't make women superhumanly strong or intelligent, just bigger in the posterior and perma horny. When they see a locked guy they just move on to the 90% of willing and eager males.

Culture shifts for women to be about their asses. How much pleasure they can garner, new vibrating seats and such, the perfect perfume for throwing yourself on a man.

>>11311869
If any kind of rubbing on their asses is pleasurable, why do they need to go after men? Does any contact with a penis just light up the sensors on that exogenous zone ten times better than a vibrator can?

Also, what's really stopping guys from taking advantage of the situation to sieze more power while all the female politicians are busy fapping? Is getting raped so bad that guys will want to hide from women? Does contact with these asses have some sort of negative effect on men?

>>11311890
Yeah, they can sit on a washer going on heavy all they want, it makes them feel good but the only way to truly "Quell" It is to sit on a man. Imagine the difference between edging and finally cumming. Seeing a man is that "Oh fuck let it all out" Trigger.

The only affect on men is that the women are very forceful and if they don't actually prepare for the eventuality of it, they're gonna get slammed between a brick wall, a tree or the pavement and 2 50 pound cheeks of raw sexual aggression. A lot of these instances result in death, prompting men to either start training so they can briefly overpower a woman in full horny mode, outrun them (They are slowed a bit by the girth of their cheeks but large packs will corner you still) Or simply bring a pillow or something soft to lay on while she goes to bounce her fat ass off on your cock.

Female politicians are basically gone. They don't control the world through Machiavellian means or feminist lectures, they control it by being a bottomless pit of horny that must be collectively satisfied. This also ties back to "Only a man can truly satisfy them, and even then its only for a time" Building fuck machines to sate them does nothing. The fire doesn't die down it just gets stronger.

World governments have stopped fighting each other to collectively ask what the fuck can be done about this? The initial rapes and forced buttjobs are killing men by the hundreds, lesbians can't quell that fire though they may still enjoy bumping their giant rumps together.

There are yet more implications of this. They fuck via buttjob only. Typical sex basically doesn't happen often, as the recharge time for the woman is faster than the man, and she'll always want to grind her cheeks more than anything else. Pregnancy rates have dropped precipitously.

>>11311974
Men sporting pillows tied to their backs has acted as a good initial stopgap measure for the impulsive advances of women and disregard for male safety. This in turn has started a wave of... admittedly funny commercials, selling deluxe, extra soft portable cheek cushions, which much like bug spray, don't stop them from pitching on you, but do reduce the chance of getting bit, or in this case, crushed to death between a butt and a hard place.

If you've ever seen those abo PSA commercials in Australia about not sniffing petrol or sleeping in the road, those became a thing the world over for about a month. "Remember girls! Don't rape a fellow if he don't got a pillow" Type cringe. It... slightly worked? Women are more likely to target men with pillows now, but in a pitched heat, they'll default to an almost feral lizard brain "Must fuck dick must sit on man" mindset. This level of horny where thought just does not go beyond cumming occurs 1-2 hours after not booty bashing a guy. Note that this is the time in which they have to fuck before they become completely lizard brained, they almost always want to.

>>11311978
The moment a woman hits 18, this just happens. Their ass becomes an ero zone that proceeds to control them, and no woman thus far has demonstrated the ability to willpower their way out of this shit. MRA type dudebros were absolutely ecstatic over this for like a week, talking about how they truly are the less intelligent, less capable sex and now they're just slaves to their own desires. Then it hit them that no man needs their shitty dating advice or pickup artist bullshit anymore. Everyone is getting laid.

The culmination of this has been a collective effort by governments the world over to move men to get active, do their part, and help quell the female menace. This jokingly named "War on women" Mostly consisted of men prepping themselves to last longer, recharge faster, and volunteer at newly made shelters where they pleasure women, sometimes multiple at a time, with whatever means they can muster. (Keep in mind it's not just the dick that quells them, the act of bouncing on a dude anywhere helps.)

The act of using self defense when a woman is involved is immediately decided in the mans favor. Should a man fear for his life despite adequate preparation for the inevitable, he may do what he must, but you'd have better odds against a tiger than a woman at that horny point I mentioned.

>>11308277
This is something I constantly think about for my setting. On one hand, I do like the feeling of being a kind of toy for some giantess like in your pic, but I also wonder if it's even plausible to have a genuine relationship with someone that big, like, what's the endgame here? How do I pleasure her? Maybe I'm overthinking it.
This is why I want non-human women who don't have the typical human women needs to rule the mnwo.
>>11311978
>Women are more likely to target men with pillows now...
At some point, we need to take a step back and ask ourselves wtf're we even talking about

>>11311986
This is shit. Women are at a disadvantage and men just get free sex toys from the looks of it. You'd see this kind of world building in the maledom thread.

>>11302001 (OP)
Okay, hear me out. An alternate spin on all the methods of social control we use in the real world to enforce values, but here it's used to keep men putting out instead.

In the real world, men are shamed as 'incel' or 'virgin' if they don't live up to our social expections, implying they don't have what it takes to deserve female attention. These things are then associated with everything bad under the sun, from rape to mass shooting. The message is that if you don't make sure to mold yourself to women's sensibilities, you're a creep, probably dangerous, and should be shunned.

In our matriarchal world, the system of social control would work the same, except instead of asking men to be sensitive and considerate, it's geared towards making men be permissive sex toys. They wouldn't use 'incel', because it's not about being unable to satisfy women, it's about being unwilling. There'd be terms like 'prude' or 'gynophobe'.

Being called a prude has all the connotations we have for incels. Prudes are failed men who never really grew up, they're creepy and dangerous, and we're afraid young boys are growing up to be more prudish than ever (somebody should do something about that Andrew Chaste guy, corrupting the minds of the youth!)

Imagine being called in to HR for not letting your female coworker grab your dick. Somebody being cancelled on twitter for writing a story where a man rejects a woman. Your sport club having a new dress code for men to provide easy access. All for the sake of what people in this world call 'political correctness'.
Most crucially, men don't experience this as women ruling over them. These are just their social values, the CHOOSE to be sexually submissive, because that's what makes them proper, modern men.

>>11302001 (OP)
How do you feel about male weight gain and male inflation? A matriarchal new world order story setting where women are taller, bigger, stronger and smarter, and men are rounder, wider, and fatter?

Imagine being the only boy in a class of girls. Watching their breasts and bottoms expand, you hardly notice your belly sticking out farther and farther, your love handles ballooning wider and wider. You don't eat nearly as much as a girl does, but her food turns into muscle while yours converts directly into fat.

https://www.deviantart.com/xue13/art/Matriarch-925985719

>11312064
Ur gay mate

>>11302001 (OP)
How you guys feel about women controlling the minds of men with their powerful pheromones?

The idea of women being voluptuous horny beast that want to ride cock all the time is hot. But if we're basing a Matriarchy concept around it, you'd need some reason for men to dread sex and feel oppressed by women's libido. Here's my crack at it:

Women have large voluptuous bodies, and men all have disproportionately large cocks to accommodate them.They both get horny very easilly, and have super sensitive eregenous zones that feel a ton a pleasure when they meet. The difference? While women can definitely get off and satisfy their urges from riding, sucking, and/or rubbing up against these cocks specifically evolved to pleasure them. Men actually don't get any release the vast majority of the time.

Men have biological cycles. They aren't able to cum for almost the entire month. Then there's a 100 hour period called "Danger Zone", followed by a 1 hour period called "Happy Hour". A guy is able to cum during his happy hour, though he will need a woman's help to achive orgasm. However, if all the combined stimulation he received during "Danger Zone" would have been enough to make him cum, happy hour prematurely closes.

Because of these obtusely strict rules, guys are suffering from blue balls all the time. Women push for sex often, easily able to push their men's buttons and possibly even rape them. But all the pleasure they guy's get from these acts just builds and builds with no release in sight. You feel like your cock is going to explode but you just can't cross the edge.

Avoiding women like the plague still doesn't let you cum and your own libido will torture you with wet dreams and such. Your best bet at a respite from this nightmare is to make a woman so happy she'll agree to leave your cock alone and protect you during danger zone then make you cum during happy hour. But of course, that puts you completely at her mercy. She'll tease you like mad and use you as a slave. Then gets to decide the fate of your blue balls as that time of the month draws near.

>>11312064
>You don't eat nearly as much as a girl does, but her food turns into muscle while yours converts directly into fat.
Love the imagery of how unfair that sounds. Getring ti sse a girl pig out and enjoy her food only to be rewarded with the body of a Goddess while you're condemned to eat plain and healthy if you want any chance of not becoming more of a blob. A pleasure in life reserved only for the superior sex.

>>11312074
Sounds wonderful, I love the idea of guy's getting their brains rewired by female scent.

>>11311868
>That's the kind of feeling I try to go for in my work.
Can you link to your work? Sounds extremely relevant to my interests.

>>11312086
Eating plain and healthy you would be underweight for a male. And what girls really love to see is growth. Of course you can't grow taller, you're not a girl after all. But by eating or being fed you can keep growing wider and wider, rounder and rounder, until that magical moment when you seem to almost inflate like a spherical balloon. She did say she would help you grow to a full six feet.

>>11312127
Sure. Hope you enjoy!

https://archiveofourown.org/users/mrwriterfromd/works

I also upload on Literotica, DA, my own site, etc. Most of it's on Ao3 tho.

>>11312084
You don't need complicated rules. Just say men stay hard and ready for action, but can't cum if their balls are empty.
But really, I don't think you need even that. Just put yourself in the shoes of someone that would live in such a world. Getting off isn't hard, so there's no sense of value for being able to do it, you're never hoping or thinking about the chance to have sex, just like in the real world you're never really desperate for a drink of water. But when you do get off, it's because this giant that you barely know is grabbing you and tossing you about with very little concern for your feelings or consent.
You will obviously feel pleasure from the act, but it's despite yourself, because you're desperate to assert some control over the situation.

>>11312033
>woke internet journalists complaining videogames aren't sexualized enough
>anti-woke podcasters complaining videogames are too sexualized now
>sensitivity training assigning you sexual relief duty with your female coworkers
>old-timey suffragette posters about having the right to enter the workplace, specifically to molest someone
I see real potential for this universe.

>>11312186
Thanks man. That "Number 6" story is good shit.

>>11312299
>old-timey suffragette
What? That doesn't make any sense.

>>11312332
The posters are old-timey, anon. You know? Like Rosie the Riveter?
In this timeline 'the patriarchy' is considered synonymous with prudish sex-negative social norms.

>>11312089
I love the idea of women using their musky scents to usurp unwilling males. Like if a woman wants a man, she can go a few days without showering and he will be her slave. If he doesn't want her, all she would need to do is go a few more days.

>>11312339
Ok, but the suffrage never happened in this timeline I'm presuming? I was just confused why a matriarchial society would need a suffrage.

>>11312363
Well you could say that's how it became a matriarchy.
The whole premise is that women consider anything less than complete acquiescence to be toxic masculinity.
The suffragettes liberated society from the stuffy "patriarchy" in which men had boundries, and women were kept in the home to keep them from raping their male peers.

>>11311996
>Women literally rape men out of the sheer pleasure of it. Men have no idea how to stop it besides goofy looney toons ass designs.
>This belongs in maledom.

Really/

>>11312489
>women are brain dead and can only think of sex
>women hold no political power in the "matriarchy"
>men are encouraged to use lethal force on women and the judges will rule in support
Nice matriarchy bro

>>11312299
I guess I just like the idea of men having to suffer some kind of sexual agony. Guys just getting women handled and raped doesn't sound all that bad. Especially compared to the maledom equivalent were women would be getting penetrated.

I think a matriarchy setting needs women to have some power over men that isn't easily ignored or balanced out. At minimum they need to be as strong as men and slightly more likely than men to commit sexual assault, kidnapping, or forced marriage (that they are likely to get away with). Just having less-enforced social norms be flipped in a setting where women and men are equally prone to aggression and expressing horniness in the same ways would count.
Monster Girl Encyclopedia and Monster Girl Quest having men be susceptible to nutting so hard it renders them mindbroken and submissive to whichever girl fucked them made for excellent femdom stories (though Encyclopedia never really went all in with it, imo)

>>11312636
I'd love if it felt like a full body workout every time a man fucks a woman, and women were so horny that fucking till failure was a thing. They just ignore the yelps of pain.

>>11312666
How about muscles and nerves reacting in such a way where guys felt what was happening to their cocks all over? She squeezes it inside her, and you feel your whole body being crushed

>>11312662
If we're talking monster-girls and a "plausible" gender advantage, the demons from Shrift bind themselves to the souls of the men they choose. If a man ejaculates inside one of them, it's seen as ceding ownership of their soul to the demon and they basically become a living toy/husband for the demon.
Demons are also pretty much invincible and the worst you can do to one of them is damage their form which they would just need to reconstitute in their own dimension.

>>11312074
I think it's pretty hot. Though I like an element of metamorphoses in my matriarchy. So they'd get it through a transformation of some sorts, in my case.

>>11312312
Aw thanks! Glad you liked it.

>>11312033
>Andrew Chaste
kek

>>11311992
I don't think you're overthinking it, I put a lot of thought into the topic obviously hehe. To me "too big" is when it becomes difficult to figure out how you would even interact. It gets increasingly difficult to describe how two people have sexual contact the larger one of them gets.

The invisible fine line somewhere between mini giantess and actual giantess I guess is where I'd put it.

>>11312033
>These are just their social values, the CHOOSE to be sexually submissive, because that's what makes them proper, modern men.

Very cool idea. I guess if that's all they've ever known it just makes sense.

Personally I prefer men knowing that the system they are stuck in isn't fair and is deliberately stacked against them. I like that sickly cloying feeling of knowing the system is out to get you.

Jeez do I have a systemic oppression fetish? Might have to bring that up with my therapist.

>>11312861
You can imagine yourself as one of the few culturally critical men, having no solidarity from your fellow men, who consider you a creep and a loser for speaking out.

>>11313073
Fair enough. Probably a bad idea to stand out as an upstart/free thinker, it might attract too much attention. Girls determined to crush any semblance of independence or free will under insufferable love and kisses.

>>11312861
>Jeez do I have a systemic oppression fetish? Might have to bring that up with my therapist.
So she can tell you it is all in your stupid moid head?

>>11312861
>Personally I prefer men knowing that the system they are stuck in isn't fair and is deliberately stacked against them. I like that sickly cloying feeling of knowing the system is out to get you.
I'm with you.
I generally prefer more grounded and realistic scenarios that try to preserve as much of our current world as possible. No extreme physical changes for women and no turning them into sex crazed nymphos or anything like that.
A genuine realistic matriarchy would be pretty shitty for men (although, frankly, it might not be much different than what a lot of guys experience now). Society would be designed around facilitating women's access to the best male genes possible, with as few consequences and responsibilities as possible. To that end monogamy would be largely phased out, and generous state programs would be established to provide assistance and childcare for single mothers. The average life course for a woman would be to get knocked up by Chad, occasionally fuck around with some other men on the side, and let the government worry about raising her kids while she's off doing whatever. The average man would have little to no sexual contact with women, but he would be taxed heavily to support all the single mothers.
Men would not be doted on by women, nor would they be abused. They would just be... ignored. Because that's all women really want tbqh. To be left alone, except for the few alpha males that they deem worthy.
Of course in my own personal wish fulfillment fantasy, there's a rich businesswoman with an eccentric fetish for monogamy who takes an interest in me for some inexplicable reason. So we get married, and I love her and dote on her, even though she's generally somewhat distant and has trouble connecting with and expressing her emotions. And we sometimes get into political arguments, and I tell her that this system is so unfair, and she just brushes me off for having such silly ideas...
>>11313172
That would be great!

>>11313220
>more grounded and realistic scenarios
>No extreme physical changes for women and no turning them into sex crazed nymphos

Some day I'll write a normal story like this.

>>11313220
That's kind of boring and likely to fall apart. You kind of need the changes to make it both hot and a somewhat functional society.

>>11313360
The original version of this was bigger.

>>11313360
Maybe have the men be the nymphos
Women were changed a little for their convenience by comic book super-science but men got put through the wringer and basically domesticated
Any stragglers trying to maintain sanity or free will are doomed to be dragged to the nearest conversion center to become stupid hyperdicked sex toys
Women are mostly accepting of this as the way things are/should be due to propaganda and social conditioning

>>11313395
i disagree, all of the giantess changes are boring because its just "hurr durr women can overpower men, now they can create a matriarchy" which is a boring caricature of how they think the patriarchy got started, and ignores how social dynamics can be just as controlling as physical force
something like pic related where there's a social credit system that is basically controlled by women is incredibly hot

>>11313395
There's probably at least one good story you could squeeze out of that setting, if nothing else then as an excuse for an extended meditation on the social dynamics. But yeah, there's not much exciting to do with the setting because as I said, it's by definition just our world with a couple things shifted around. It's just a fantasy that I like to fap to sometimes, not something I would use for "worldbuilding".
Thinking about it more, my principle criteria is probably just that I want to feel like the setting wasn't constructed for the benefit / wish fulfillment of men. I mean, on the one hand it obviously always is wish fulfillment, because otherwise the author wouldn't be having the fantasy in the first place. But you can make it more or less subtle. It's supposed to be a matriarchy -- women in charge, for their own benefit. A society of giantess/amazonian mommies is obviously for the benefit of men. A society of mean dommes who whip men 24/7 is kinda for the benefit of men too, just in a more obscured way, because all the focus is still put on the men and what's being done to them.
I'm working on some stories right now in a setting where women can use magic and men can't. Men are like "mana batteries" -- women have sex with men to drain the man's mana. Sex for men is often painful and potentially dangerous. Obviously there's nothing "realistic" about this setting, but I still like the idea because I'm trying to make it clear that this world is entirely built for women, focused on their goals and decisions and their agency, and men are secondary players to be used and discarded as the need arises (but naturally, some powerful mage might still happen to take a strong liking to you, there's gotta be some wish fulfillment in there somewhere).

>>11313427
The scenario that you are imagining is just cucked schadenfreude stuff that's just a worse version of real life with bitter roasties being handed . You can see how the world in real life is miserable and falling apart for both men and women.
The patriarchy exists because that's the most optimal system for wagie productivity. The average man is generally stronger than the average woman, so men can do more physically demanding work such as construction. There are female engineers, skilled welders, electricians, etc., but the fact that construction is hard manual labour makes it hard for the weaker sex to handle the work. Women's brains are wired up differently, their bodies are structured differently to allow for things like pregnancy, childbirth, breastfeeding, and so on. Even some women in high positions (such as female glowies, military chiefs, politicians, etc.) end up being retarded and psychopathic.
Meanwhile, a scenario with stronger, smarter women and weaker, but more hung and virile men results in an actual sexual fantasy that still allows someone to do the hard work.

>>11313460
You could just as easily argue that a patriarchy is actually built for women because a functional society benefits women (with things like reliable electricity, gas mains, and clean running water making cooking, cleaning, clotheswashing, etc. much easier) and rape just fulfils a common female sexual fantasy and BDSM is also done to keep the focus on what is being done to the women.

>>11313480
there's other ways to analyze society, but you seem pretty set your frame of analysis, so carry on king

My most normal matriarchy idea is a society predicated on this belief:
Because women give birth, growing new life inside them and bringing it into the world' they are Goddesses. Each woman is a divine being, with men being seen as inferior creatures that only exist to aid in the process and serve the divine.
The male role in reproduction is heavily downplayed, and each guy is told that his mother only brought him into this world to serve Womenkind.

>truck-kun was kind
>women big, strong, AND hornty
>long distance pursuit predators, tireless but patient and cooperative
>primary male role is craft
>learn to sew and carve and make
>every high school offers metalsmithing courses and songwriting
>get kind quiet gf
>social consensus is that women are hornty because hueg sex drive is fundamentally necessary to make women willfully choose pregnancy
>gf is sorta neurotic about pregnancy risk, but the thirst is real
>do more fetishistic non-penetrative stuff on unsafe days
>this escalates
>she opens up more and more about being a fetishistic pervert who just wants maledom
>you roleplay along secure in the knowledge that she could still destroy you outside of the rp scenario and will still be a fine bosswife
>she has some strange ideas of a hypersexual patriarchy
>she rules out most of your suggestions because male 'dramatics' are "the exact opposite of what this whole scenario is about, anon."
>rp stuff is getting... complicated. maybe you're not up to the task.
>find her alt account for cultured art and, oh boy, she's in deep
>she has twenty thousand AI responses in scenarios you're very not comfortable with
>absolute maledom goonmaxxing
>is that even sexual at that point
>this girl needs a therapist why don't women just go to therapy omg
>is that a maledom cannibalism rp
>is this actually normal here
>are they all repressing this same thing
>did you not escape total femsub eclipse after all
>if you leave a perfectly kind but gooner gf and get a mean queen just to sidestep this specific pitfall would that even succeed
>did truck-kun not send you to paradise after all?
>is this what you earned?
>is this actually hell?

>>11313681
such is the tragedy of the Gooner GF Experience
i'd expect his gf really is in the minority in fetish stuff, she probably is one of the lucky ones who actually got an almost equally gooned bf who would understand and indulge her arguably underserved niche interest
>just to confirm, you check the rest of the RP stuff hosted on the same sites by others and yeah, a good chunk of the guys are tagged "submissive" or seem set up for the part
>apparently famous pickup artists that you rarely hear about but always somehow have a billion followers are now skeezy women who appeal to femcels and preach that all boys just want to be househusbands that get dominated and cared for by a "real woman"

>most cultured art that gets featured or popular now tragically focuses more on anime hunks, twinks, or shotas (who are actually 6900 years old) getting propositioned, seduced, or ravished by a stronger woman, even if they're supposed to be tougher and more assertive
>this means most decently drawn hentai games that should have depicted your ideal scenario don't give nearly enough focus to the thicc woman doing the domming so much as the guy getting basically molested, monkey's paw-ing you out of a metric ton of what ought to have been good material
>fuck, a good chunk of them make the woman into some obese, nasty-looking, ludicrously evil hag with plot armor for some reason. usually with impressive tits, but still
>on the other hand, there's no shortage of cute otome games (otoko games?) where a headstrong woman built like a fortress falls for a soft boy, to varying degrees of wholesomeness and quality
>you scroll past one femanon (would that just be normal anon here? would you be a maleanon? manon? mascanon?boyanon?) who laments playing one random otokoge to see what stupid submissive fantasies men were into and getting seduced by the big stronk love interest calling her a "good boy" and promising to protect her, half the replies calling her a dyke

>>11313751
Honestly I think it's funnier if we abandon social reflection and commentary on reality and instead have a world of huge femsubs whose perverse sexual desires are constrained by... actually being against nature. Not sufficiently against nature as to impede reproduction. But enough that sex crimes basically don't exist.
>In University
>talking to gf and one of her more outgoing friends
>Talking about joining the workforce after school
>she's saddled with debt
>surprised she didn't get a scholarship but say nothing
>I got a male specific scholarship for deciding to be a man in stem (biology because brain can't do big math)
>no jobs in biology unless doctorate (hah)
>she says "why didn't you just do quantum chromodynamics, lots of jobs open for a bachelors if you can get into a miltech or computer company."
>...
>"I mean it, you're the most intelligent man I've ever met."
>...
>"..."
>...I got less than 1400 on the SAT4.
>"...uh, Anon, tests aren't everything..."
>Do you even know a single girl with less than 2800.
>"Oh come on Anon, you can't be down on yourself now years later just because you choked on one test."
>...
>"You choked. I'm sure of it."
>Her smile is fracturing at the corners.
>"You're smarter than me, we all LOVE N-O-T-H-I-N-G more than to hear you talk about something you care about. You just need to, uh, apply yourself."
>Men have different brains than women, Angela.
>"Yeah but EXACTLY--tests can't account for all sorts of things, and when boys talk to me my head is often left swimming with that shimmering male wit, it's so--"
>these two getting that flush again and talking about how male voices give them asmr effect.
>gf says "Listen whatever happens, we're partners through it. I'll support you even if you choose not to become a CEO."
>"Oh FUCK can you imagine getting to work for a boy CEO..."
>"What if he was smart as anon, but taller than a woman..."
>They're both turning crimson.
>She's going to want me to put on a suit for tonight.

>>11313681
>>11313751
>>11313766
These are so cute and clever!
I would love to RP as the big scary maledom for her, and then afterwards I flop into her arms, and she sighs over what a silly little fantasy that was...

>>11313407
That's so delightfully dystopian. I love it.

>>11313766
>gf and some of her besties are talking about their asmr audio vices over lunch.
>in public.
>they get some disapproving expressions from other women who have their bfs in tow
>men are steering clear of our table like it was a serious discussion between armed serbians
>things work a little differently in this world
>instead of jazz records and or playboy mags from the '20th century your grandparents attic had a box of vinyl 45s of husky voiced men saying salacious things
"God I just loooove childhood best friend reunion ones, where he tells you about everything he's accomplished and how that one time you saved him from bullies gave him the confidence to succeed."
"--oooh, I like the really spicy versions where he's a little more oujidere. Like, he remembers you as this mythic demigoddess that he's been perfecting himself to live up to and when he sees what you've become since then he just, he needs to kinda, uh, re-evaluate."
"Oh GOD I know what you mean, the pang of shame makes it, just, exquisite. But personally I crash real hard after binging those and oh jeez it's not like most of us can say 'hey bf, I have been listening to other men who aren't you judging me, for fun. Can you please tell me that you still think I'm worth it.'"
>childhood friend tropes are a bit different too
>most places separate girls and boys for at least half a decade of female growth, reintegrating halfway through highschool, to "let them grow into their strengths separately" but "get some time to adjust socially together before adulthood and college."
>read: avoid totally crushing male aspirationality during important personality formation years
>they're looking at you
>crap
>a downside of these amazons being huge male audio junkies:
>they often think that what we say is valuable
>not because it is
>just because they like how we sound.
"Uhm. I don't think I'd need to be a childhood friend to think my gf is amazing."
>Eyes roll, gf kinda sarcastically half smiles.

>>11314060
"...heh. It was kinda awkward when we met. Right after the reunification of classes. Remember that? You just kinda... slammed directly into me. You were zoned out, far away. Maybe watching for one of those childhood reunions."
>she's cringing a little.
>so are you.
"Sent me flying. My books were too heavy for my body, it was lucky the knock on the head didn't mess me up worse."
>The room's fallen silent.
>Seems like every woman is now focused on whatever you'll say next.
>To judge you both for it.
>No pressure.
>You just need to cut out a few details.
>How good she smelled, how cute her 'eeep' sounded, how much you wanted to feel that first moment of collision again and again forever... that sweet hard crash of thighs and abdomen... that stays between the two of you.
"You were so fast after that. Made sure I was safe to move and then suddenly it was like I'd been flown to the school nurse by a superhero."
>she is now clutching her hands together between her legs and blushing ferociously. Her shoulders are rolling in to appear smaller.
>fix this.
"Do you remember what I said to the staff when we got there?"
>in a small voice she barely says "...you were dazed."
"I said, 'Everything's okay. An angel's touch saved me.'"
"'And she's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.'"
>Not good.
>There's a phlegmy note to her breathing.
>She looks like she could start ugly crying.
"For weeks after that. Not dazed, not disoriented, just... a little ungrounded. I thought that might even be true."
>She's locked up, beet red.
"I thought, maybe if I just prayed to you, you'd be there. I didn't worry about anything. New school, dangerous girls, meteors falling from the sky. Anything. Because I'd felt the touch of an angel."
>again, omitting certain facts about touching ourselves.
"And you know, I'm still not convinced that you're not someone to pray to."

>>11314062
"But I can't test that theory."
"Because you're here now. With me. So all my prayers are fulfilled."
>The silence is pregnant for a full minute.
>If you didn't know better you'd swear you could hear her titan heart beating in her chest
"That is the worst, corniest, fakest Class Reunification Day story I have ever heard."
>A male voice.
>Thank god.
>If a woman said that, some of your friends might throw hands.
>Instead the crowd around the table just kinda laughs and disperses.
>You relax every clenched muscle in your body, one at a time.
>The flop sweat you didn't even know was running down your neck, chest, and arms slowly stops flowing.
>You must smell vile now.
>Especially to any woman.
>They seem hypersensitive to all the different kinds of sweat a man can make. Something about the glands. They can always tell if you've been exercising, overheating, or stress sweating.
>You get out of your chair and extend a hand to your gf.
"Come on. Let's pick up and le--"
>You're swept up into the embrace of a higher power
>For a while, you just breathe together while she holds on.
>Her overpoweringly familiar sour-sweet sweat vanquishes your own vile musk, your presence outmatched even there.
>At first her heart is thuddering hard enough that you can feel her pulse in your own ribs
>It is calm again when she sets you down.
>...thank you, truck-kun.

>>11308361
Young Women, female roles.

Young women are kind of runts, compared to their older relatives of the same sex. So much so they are often derisively called a variant of 'little men' due to their active life-style, perceived rowdy nature, and status as subordinates. They often do a lot of menial tasks around the house and field. However they are also free to roam for long periods of time.

They are generally forced to dress much more modestly than their older counterparts. Being able to show off what nature of the divine has gifted you requieres having gifts in the first place, and the elders will not stop reminding the young ladies of this, much to their chagrin. Often, an older woman may wear skimpy clothes around the youth to humble them and remind them of where they are.

Young women are considered wily and rebellious but also, unlike men, tricky and devious. In classic female literature, the archetype of the scheming and crafty young woman is very common; in low comedy the trope of the young woman silently suffering with breast envy is common. Though she is not always cast in a bad light in either. In what little male literature treats the topic (by it's nature far more prosaic and pragmatic), young women are depicted as voraciously preying on young men. And otherwise causing unwanted ruckus.

>>11314335
Note: Young women aren't considered to be fully women until they've gotten pregnant. Until then they are on a separate stage of development considered to not be quite child quite adult.

What's the best tool for AI generated stories? I have written a full giantess story myself. While I'm good with stories ideas and world buildings, I suck at story telling and writing. So I would like to use an AI generated story tool to import my giantess story and fix it with better writing. In the past I've used a free, decent, popular tool like that (it's mostly used for AI generated roleplaying) but unfortunately I've forgotten the name of the site.

>>11312064
>>11312163
>When she can steal all your junkfood and get muscles from it.
Cruel world

RPG style point system.
Every time a woman makes a male submot to her, she gains more power. In contrast, men become weaker every time they hit a woman for any reason.

"What if woman biiig" is the laziest and therefore best form of worldbuilding to create a matriarchy.

But, how biig, and how to biig?

The first and most important impact of women biiig would be on population collapse and demographics in premodern societies. An unbelievable number of women historically died during childbirth, and a mother of two who dies on child three often ultimately meant four deaths by household collapse. That number would be much, much lower if women's hip sizes had been intelligently designed by a woman-loving deity, or if bone evolution had not been slower than social advancement. Human childbirth is unusually dangerous among mammals and even among primates because of the skull to hip problem. However, babies, including woman babies, do continue to grow outside of the womb and this does include their brains, it is entirely possible to have woman biig without making babygirls so biiig that the effect cancels. That affects not just the way pregnancies are managed but also things like raw demographics and social demographic necessities. The trouble with trying to worldbuild after changing something so crucial to social customs and division of labor is that this seems like a really, really radical change. Ease of childbirth under a woman biig scenario makes stable female populations more or less universal, and a lot of the oldest stories in the world seem to involve some element of bride abduction which suggests that that just wasn't ever the case in human prehistory. The transition to agriculture wasn't a precondition for civilization for reasons of permanency or nutrition, it was because it aided social organization modes that helped keep birthgiving populations stable and this is not just a division of labor thing since all known nomadic cultures also had divisions of labor.

It is often proposed that matriarchy should start in the womb, or in the school, or the strength of the arm. I propose that it would instead start at the hips.

>>11315159
That's all ancient history now though. Civilization means cities, and cities mean crime.

With the perils of birth (and miscarriage) dramatically reduced, evolutionary and social pressure finds a new balance point between the risk and reproduction. Women who are less inhibited and have more androphilic sex drive more or less reproduce more flat out instead of either reproducing more or dead ending their family line. The most androphilic woman, not the most prudent woman, wins this arms race. Generalized risk taking among women becomes valorized and risk aversion becomes dishonor and cowardice. Women are typically virgin shamed even more than men and this starting at least as young as men are, if not younger. Sexually motivated violence is not only on the table, it is actively celebrated in poem and song, provided it is intragender rather than intergender; it is common for girls and women to form organized gangs to rumble it out and for these gang affiliations to last into middle age. A clan mother with 17 kids will release a new rap album to celebrate securing pregnancy 18 in which she will call her upcoming menopause 'going out on top' and thank all the hard knuckled girls who helped keep Vicky the Creep out of her turf and away from her boys. Relatively little honor is given to male violence even if socially beneficial or necessary because it is seen as taking more life than it gives.

Mama warned you about girls who play rough for a reason, though. They'll break more than your heart even if they don't put that part into their album. Be careful because this whole world, from the deepest street to the highest tower, is ruled by whoever mothered the most, not the most carefully.

>>11315192
I'd still have an incelchud crashout, frankly. Though I have some questions.

Could picrel be a potrait of sorts of the Clan-Mother type of woman? Let's assume POV is a 16 year old boy, maybe a sister's child. If I had to imagine context I'd say she's out for a stroll in her domains, and that she's a bit of a show-off, purportedly to keep the young bitches in line.

How is society aside from these urban gang communities?

What is the role of Men in this society aside from being #2 cause of gangland violence before Drug turf and in front of petty bitch beef? Like, what do they do, how do they live?

>>11315286
More or less.
Honestly this is kind of a reaction against focus on the aristocratic elite and imperial court level politics you see in a lot of these kinds of settings. Really pervasive social structuring should be everywhere, but should be especially strong where the cushioning effects of money don't reach. Rule by mothers, not mothering by rulers.

Still, an elite would exist even if you're not to catch sight of it.

-A woman's legacy is her children, her estate is in her daughters and endures beyond her death, but her power is the promise of legacy she can help others build.
-A man's legacy is his own name, his estate is in his direct ties and severs at his death, but his power is the extent of commitment he can get from a woman and that may endure so long as her estate prospers.
>imagine a man being able to convince a woman to stop punching other women
In our world social classes have observably different approaches to the domains of legacy, estate and power, and the lower classes tend to have to sacrifice one domain for the sake of building or just holding onto the others. Participation in a true elite class will tend to make one domain reinforce the others, the western elite used to reproduce significantly more than the western lower classes under the Hajnal Pattern. A lower class Clan Mother will need to pledge her estate to another woman's estate, and that's going to be less matrimony oriented than in our world. There's going to be a soft but strong limit on how many sons even a higher clan can stand to receive even if they wanted more. Despite a lot of modern chud talking points, real kings coveted the sword arms of the baron's sons more than the wombs of his daughters.
(cont)

>>11315369
On men:

Women align on an axis from controller to chaos, and men are oriented either to women or to work. Women break things and vandalize territory for reasons that men barely understand, and men create objects and enclose property for reasons women find trifling. Even the male production of weaponry is strange to women; a knife kills, a knife teaches a fine lesson, a knife demonstrates personal right, what the hell does anyone learn about respect by getting hit by a missile? You're not going to wipe out a true clan mothers' legacy by bombing her unless you're ready to glass a whole continent, they'd scatter, get real. Militaries may employ men as grunts but matters of state are still resolvable by honor duels between matrons. Women with ambition are too busy seizing the day to tend to the cities they spray paint. Elite clan mothers find it easier to employ clanless or lower clan men to build and tend to their properties/factories than to try to civilize unrelated girls. The male drive to secure commitment from women is a cause for disappointment as clan mothers find their paychecks simped out to local menaces. Male crooks are usually accomplices. A man who has actually secured the commitment of a fledgling clan mother on her rise is rare, but one to be reckoned with.

Clanless men will build their names as in all worlds-personal choices of infamy or diligence. Lower clan men have those options but normally will build their names by lending to their mothers' ability to promise legacy to others--this is not as easy as it sounds. Lower clan women are fearless, and shameless about commitment. Higher clan men rarely build their own name; nobody respects that the literal empress' son was able to secure a commitment of paternity from a minor princess which had a trillion dollar rubber trade deal as contingency. A high clan male will often be forgotten by his own descendants within two generations, or noted as a footnote in a matrilineal scroll.

>>11312074
Bugs the logical side of me, but is more than hot enough to make up for it

>>11315374
That seems like an environment very conducive to the generation of monasticism. What about writing?

>>11308277
>>11308278
>>11315159
This, females being double the height of males is a really simple and easy to understand formula. It puts male eyes exactly level with either the crotch or women's butts. Like your regular view day in and day out is of wide, wobbly donks in all directions.

It's also pretty much perfect for a male weight gain/inflation scenario. Because once fully inflated the male body is the exact same size and shape in proportion to the giantess female body as an exercise ball. There's something unbelievably sexy in ballooning so round and fat that your very fatness assists female fitness.

I also like the Kantai Collection idea of a male like myself being nominally "in charge" of a group of girls who are taller, bigger, and stronger. It's like the trope of the really really fat male volleyball coach who has to coach a group of far taller and way more physically capable females into training harder. Girls talking to each other like, "Of course Anon, the tubby round balloon of fat, is the perfect expert on female fitness!" Or bending over to tease me about the fact that my uniform is made of the same stretchy material used to make weather balloons.

Hmmm... I haven't checked out the femdom thread in a while, I wonder what's going on in there
>what if everyone in the matriarchy was into maledom? How subversive!
>What if males were fat?
>what if woman were sex-crazed nymphos with no other personality?
"Beeg woman" is somehow the best hypothetical this thread could produce, and it wasn't even made here.

>>11315541
>what if everyone in the matriarchy was into maledom? How subversive!
Aw come on that one was cute

>>11315541
My usual approach with these threads is to come up with fantasy rules that put women on top. Stuff like:
>new alien tech is discovered that propells humanity light years forward, but only women cause use it
But I think most people find that stuff overcomplicated.

>>11315594
>most people find that stuff overcomplicated.
You shouldn't care. Worldbuilding that isn't purely fetishistic will need to be "complicated".
Most fantasy stories are patriarchal because they simply build off the foundation of our world. Matriarchal stories don't have that luxury.
Obviously, brevity is the mark of a skilled writer, but that comes after you've actually written something down.
Cool pic.

>>11315594
>But I think most people find that stuff overcomplicated.
No I love when people share their scenarios / world building exercises based around premises like that, that's what the thread is for.
I can enjoy a pretty wide variety of scenarios. Only thing that might make me lose interest is when the primary focus seems to be on some other fetish and the matriarchy aspect is sidelined.

>>11315594
Like they said, don't be afraid to overcomplicate. As >>11315617 said, that's what the editing process is for. Also it's fun to just explore your thoughts and see what people think!

>>11315620
>when the primary focus seems to be on some other fetish and the matriarchy aspect is sidelined.
For sure, ideally I'd love to see kinks used as means to enforce a materiarchy. Example: society where boys are turned into helpless tickle toys by women, they use tickling to discipline and control boys, threatening them with endless tickle torture for even the slightest, merest hint of defiance. Boys are so jumpy, sensitive, so traumatized after years and years of tickling that they would never want to risk the horrible punishments awaiting any boys who try to resist. If you think your life of constantly being teased and tormented is bad, you can't imagine what the secret police do to boys in their interrogation rooms.

I've done the math guys. There is no "rule" or "evolutionary factor" or "ability" that would universally designate a "human woman", the creature tasked with getting pregnant (and thus being physically vulnerable), as the head of the social hierarchy.
If they could, it wouldn't be in a "sexy" way.

>>11315855
That's why women are generally weaker than men in real life. In this imaginary scenario, you could make women stronger, smarter, taller, etc., but still have their brains be wired differently, etc.

>>11315541
You sound grumpy, are you eating enough chocolate?

>>11315855
I tried to think of a relatively plausible real-world scenario here >>11313220 and you're right, most men would not find it "sexy" at all.
Which is why typically there's some kind of magic/sci-fi element in these scenarios that gives women objective power over men, and then you go from there.
Or you could have something like https://archiveofourown.org/works/24484072/chapters/59097556 where it's just kind of glossed over and never addressed, and you just start with "oh btw women are in charge now".

>>11315855
I think there were some tribes that were matriarchal, it does seem that it cannot exist at a societal scale because to be feminine is to be social and society basically requires sociopaths at the helm else it goes nowhere.
Like with tribes, a family can be matriarchal, is that sexy? IDK, why do guys have oedipal complexes?

If we assume that you have a large system led in a feminine way, it could be world comprised of cultural tribes sub-cultures lead by women that govern the fabric of the society while the society itself is organised in a utilitarian way
So you'd have cabals of women chatting about culture which they then manifest in the form of getting celebrities to show off their culture like some public form of pageant show. Because it's a competition between groups, and each group is selecting their best to put on the public stage, it then becomes a game of eugenics (like the women who get really into dog breeding). Most men would just be workers, non-reproductive but enjoy the company of women socially. There's no porn, so dudes aren't as sex crazed and they undergo socialisation through the tribal system that has them all effectively act like the gay best friend (if you want it extreme, you could have them be castrated). Then there would be the seeders, which are men used just because of their strong lineage and compatibility to specific women who are too considered good stock. Because they are of higher prestige, the breeding women, they would be given authority to do with the seeding males whatever they wished.
Basically it's Bene Gesserit breeding programs, but more overt. A managerial class that you know values your breeding potential before your labor

The end result is women with hypersexualised bodies

>>11316131
>The end result is women with hypersexualised bodies
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>>11316131
>I think there were some tribes that were matriarchal,
Depends, how do you define matriarchy? I can tell you about the Iroquois (and general North American Indians) but not much else. The way they had it arranged was that Women had a lot of pull. And were regarded as the heads of the household who took the decisions. Even if men where the ones who held political office, went to war, etc. Which is, imo, the way I think most of these societies would go, with a clear segmentation of roles and spaces between male and female, even if female roles are give much more importance. I also think that even if minoritarian, there would realistically be an outlet for people who do not necessarily fit the mould. In my mind this would usually take the form of monasticism in agrarian sedentary societies, perhaps even non-sedentary societies. Ask me if you are curious.

>IDK, why do guys have oedipal complexes?
It's to be expected if your fetish has women in a position of power an authority over men. Some are going to show up.
I am starting to realize this worldbuilding excercise reveals how we individually view women than anything else.

>>11316362
Seeing women like that take over the world would be fun. I bet she gives amazing cuddles.

>>11316362
>I am starting to realize this worldbuilding excercise reveals how we individually view women than anything else.
Care to elaborate?

Decided to visit /d/ again for the first time in a while, and thrilled to see a Matriarchy thread is going again! About 2.5 years ago there were a couple threads I was posting a bunch on, but sadly they died out. The one linked by >>11302012 and then this one: https://archived.moe/d/thread/10530533/#10530533

My lewdness tends to wander, but femdom and femdom/matriarchy-focused settings are kinda the comfort zone I almost always come back to. I think one of the first things that got me into it was Monster Girl stuff, since it often involved a fantasy world where you had these all-female races who had a biological/magical imperative to dominate and rape human males. I had a lot of fun thinking about the worlds/societies that could result from those sorts of magical dynamics, some benevolent and some less benevolent.

Honestly I can enjoy the whole range of femdom. More gentle stuff that's kind of a role reversal of "traditional" gender roles, or something that's more aggressive with like a female faction taking over and defeating and enslaving males. I like there to be some level of affection, though - like even if males are slaves I still like to imagine their mistresses care about them on some level, even if it's a possessive, sort of patronizing affection.

If these threads keep going I will definitely stick around! I've been getting into erotic writing a bit, and I'd love to write more femdom type stuff with lots of worldbuilding. I'm kind of back in the mood for femdom stuff. Partly from finally watching Maho Seihei no Slave from a friend's recommendation.

>>11315594
I super, super agree with the people saying that you should go ahead with your ideas regardless of whether they're "overcomplicated"! I'm kinda the same way - the part of my brain that loves lewd scenarios just seems to be the same part of my brain that loves fantasy/sci-fi worldbuilding. So I'll write something that's intended to be erotica, but ends up being like 70% worldbuilding and setup and 30% sex.

And I enjoy imagining similar things as you. I already mentioned the monster girl thing just above - I remember years ago I had this whole setting in my imagination with an entire magic system kinda centered on female dominance and male submission. Like there were two types of energy used for magic - "essence" in males and "mana" in females. Males could use their essence for supportive magic like healing and such, so "light magic", basically. Mana could do everything else - but a female could take in essence from a male, which acted like fuel for her mana and supercharged her magic, letting her do much more powerful stuff. And you can probably imagine what "taking in essence" involves...

With more sci-fi type settings, I like the idea of some sort of psionic abilities - maybe like biotics in Mass Effect - only being accessible to women. Or there just being some fundamental tendency of the cosmos that femininity is 'more advanced' than maleness, and more advanced civilizations trend towards female-centrism. Maybe Humans find ruins from ancient precursors on Earth - think Atlantis and such - and learn that they were female-dominant. Which might start to lead to some societal changes.

But anyways - would love to hear your ideas! Some people prefer to get straight to lewdness, and others prefer worldbuilding that's like 90% just fetishism, but at least some people myself included really enjoy more elaborate worlds and such, even though they're ultimately erotica.

>>11310666
I also really love this idea. I think a skewed gender ratio with more females than males makes a lot of sense for femdom type stuff. And personally probably would also imagine women being at least a little taller and stronger on average. So that males and females are either roughly equal physically, or girls are a bit superior physically. Women would be the "main" part of humanity, with males metaphorically kept in the kitchen to support the girls they're attached to.

>>11311325
This is escapism. You underestimate our ability to dismiss this stuff in favor of a satisfying fantasy. Plus I tend to try not to put too much stock into stuff that plays up evolutionary biology as holding the answers to every human social structure and behavior.

>>11316449
>I still like to imagine their mistresses care about them on some level, even if it's a possessive, sort of patronizing affection.
For sure. It gets way too depressing if it's just meanness and mistreatment. Like I said earlier, I love it when Boys exist to be pampered and loved, to be coddled, condescendingly and maternally nurtured and cared for - whether they like it or not. Any resistance is futile and seen as little more than the fussiness of a child.

>>11312033
I like the way you think - especially when it comes to the psychology/social behaviors in a matriarchy setting being different. In your instance, the behaviors that women generally give social rewards and disincentives towards are entirely changed. For some reason I kinda like the idea of "Gynophobe" being thrown at boys who are overly resistant to being sexually dominated by girls. And conversely, being willing to kneel and kiss a woman's various bits is probably a sign that a guy respects and loves women.

One idea I've had in the past involves sorta reimagining how nudity and arousal are perceived. In our world - just as an example - a girl accidentally letting a guy see her breasts would be humiliating for the girl and a kind of 'victory' for the guy. But I like the idea that in femdom fantasy land that dynamic would be kinda reversed.

First off, female sexual features would be seen as kinda powerful and dignified - maybe a little bit like how a muscular man would be celebrated IRL. And a girl showing off more of her body - ranging from cleavage to outright nudity if she's gonna go that far - is kind of a power move. A girl getting a guy to look at her body and react in a way that's embarrassed or flustered - or showing sexual interest/arousal in response - is sort of a 'victory' for the girl and would be seen as a bit embarrassing for the guy. A male being aroused would be seen as a kind of inherently submissive thing - his body is answering a girl's call to give her what she wants. Polite girls would dress modestly, which would be seen as respectful towards boys. A really aggressive girl, for contrast, would show a lot of skin and push a boy against the wall while making sure he gets an eyeful of it - her friends giggling while they watch and laugh at the boy's reaction.

If a male reacted with enthusiasm - like just happily oogling a girl's breasts when she does the above - that might be seen as "laughably submissive slut" behavior.

>>11316460
>>11312299
>woke internet journalists complaining videogames aren't sexualized enough
>anti-woke podcasters complaining videogames are too sexualized now

I like this idea - if I take 'woke' to basically mean pro-female power in this world.

Going off of what I was saying above, a female character in a game or anime or whatever wearing a revealing outfit and being really sexy would be seen as kinda flexing on males, like an assertion of dominance. Instead of "she's clearly designed to be a slut for the male audience" it would be "she looks like she eats boys for breakfast!"

Not sure if anyone gets what I'm saying or is on the same wavelength. Basically I just like to imagine that
Male Sexuality and arousal = inherently submissive, and treated as such socially
Female Sexuality and arousal = inherently dominant and aggressive, and treated as such socially.

Basically just a bit of a reversal from normal sexuality IRL.

>>11316454
I can definitely get behind that - my whole life I've tended to get really attached to characters who are motherly or big sisterly. Especially if it's mixed with those characters being sort of authoritative and powerful.

At the same time though, I'd say personally I mix it up a bit. Soft, lovey dovey femdom is wonderful - but I also love things like military women and female warriors and demon queens, who might be a bit less soft.

i.e. Esdeath or Uzen Kyouka

>>11316468
Powerful women are cool. Fetishy stuff has it's place but there's something insanely attractive about cool, beautiful women with powerful auras. Too bad these types of women are so rare in fiction since all the "aurafarming" is reserved for the male characters and protags. And weirdly enough, when writers try to give their female characters their own "hype and aura" moments, they tend to do so by removing their femininity, like the two concepts are mutually exclusive. I'd wager the characters you mentioned are also sidelined for the protag most of the time.
All I want is a big tiddy lady doing something cool.

This idea is a really indirect way to go about it, but here's a "Matriarchy" concept centered around chivalry and knighthood.

In this society, "Chivalry" is highly valued as the most important quality a male should have. Being chivalrous implies far more respect to women here than in real life history: A truly chivalrous man will greet a woman like royalty, fufill every request he can, and never so much a dream as hitting, interrupting, or contradicting a woman.

A male acting outside of these expectations isn't necessarily illegal, but such men will remain poor and downtrodden. If a guy wants to climb up to a decent place in society, achieving the rank of a "Knight" is his best bet.

Becoming a Knight awards men with far better housing, employment, and entertainment opportunities than otherwise. It requires years of schooling and trials to ensure the principals of proper male etiquette are dully instilled. Then he needs to find a woman to agree to knight him. This woman becomes his "Princess." He is to show full devotion to her. All of his assets belong to her, and she can veto any of his decisions.

Knights who fail to live up to the code are stripped of their rank and thrown into slavery. The Princess they served can still keep all his assests. She's free to remain a Knightless Lady, but there's nothing stopping her from Knighting another man either.

Poor women who are never able to bond with a worthy aspiring Knight DO exist. But chivalrous teachings and fellow women effectively running society really put them in a higher class than poor men.

>>11316602
I strongly agree! I am always up for media with - to put it simply - badass women being badass.

And from a femdom/slightly fetishy perspective I also love any instance with a male character being in a submissive role under said women. Going off of what you said about softness and maternal femdom and all - I think there's a lot of potential to have a relationship be this dance between strict femdom with some harshness and coldness, and hints of a deeper softness and affection that occasionally slip through her mask.

If all of humanity had my inclinations - there'd be like 1000s of trashy romance novels with that dynamic...

>I'd wager the characters you mentioned are also sidelined for the protag most of the time.
Funnily in the case of Kyouka - I was actually gushing to a friend about how in my opinion this very much is not the case with her. And that's one of the reasons I really loved Mato Seihei no Slave - along with the femdom undertones, the male audience surrogate protagonist doesn't just instantly surpass all of the female characters. The main girl is sort of the big hero who is setting out to save the world and all, and he's her loyal, subordinate combat partner. Kinda similar with the other girls - the male protag has their backs but tends to be more of a supporter.

Helped by the fact that he can only fight when one of the girls leashes him, since that turns him into a monstrous werewolf-like form. But the obvious femdom appeal aside, I really do find it refreshing just from the perspective of the girls getting to be badass and take charge, and the male not instantly being thrust into a dominant position over him. A lot of fantasy anime - probably the vast majority of isekai stuff - does that and it's really annoying.

And in Esdeath's case - she is actually an antagonist so it's sort of a different situation there too.

>>11316605
So I admit I tend to shy away from femdom/matriarchy stuff that relies on - for lack of a better way of putting it - traditional gender roles. i.e. Men being big and strong and doing tough man stuff while women are soft and delicate, etc. I tend to prefer stuff that reverses that to at least some degree.

But I actually really like your idea! Would very much potentially read a story in a setting like that, depending on what direction it goes with it.

I feel like it's taking a classic "Knight and Lady" dynamic, but tweaking it so that the balance of power is much, much more heavily in the woman's favor. Where obedience to women, reverence to women, and treating women as fundamentally of higher authority than you are all part of what chivalry means here. It sounds like at least some men would get screwed over and end up maidenless - but the thing I like is that they would probably be the ones who failed to be respectful and submissive, so honestly lol they have it coming.

What exactly would being a Knight entail, do you imagine? Would it be the classic sense of being a warrior? Is a relationship of Lady and Knight essentially a monogamous thing, where they're bonded to each other and a Lady can't have multiple Knights, and a Knight can't serve multiple Ladies? How do Ladies make use of their Knights? Is it essentially this world's equivalent of marriage?

Would love to hear more - especially about what the expectations and daily life of Knighthood involve. And what males can do to live up to those expectations - or what they might do that violates them.

>>11316609
I guess I'll check out the series.
>Going off of what you said about softness and maternal femdom and all...
I'm not mrwriterfromd thoughbeit but cool
>>11316605
That's a neat idea and I feel like I've mulled over a similar concept in the past. It was a super complicated setting that involved heroes who were bound to certain goddesses. I'm trying to remember the exact details but I think I was kinda inspired inspired by the fire keepers from DS3 and a bunch of goddess myths?
The goddesses themselves were super OP beings whose roles were more "passive" and typically wouldn't interact with the physical world, kind of just chilling behind the veil of reality, waiting until their heroes showed up.

The heroes would sort of "emerge" when the amount of "evil" in the world went past a certain threshold and they would act as the "hands" of the Goddess they represent. The interactions between them would be similar to the ones we have with the fire keepers or ring maidens or whatever ; making them stronger, giving them cool equipment, healing etc.
The heroes would be regular dudes who wake up in the middle of nowhere with amnesia and bumble into the start of their hero's journey through the power of "Destiny (T.M.)" until they finally meet their Goddess who officially inaugurates them into whatever heroic epic they're supposed to be a part of.
Ig the story I wanted to tell would be from the pov of a new hero who figures stuff out as he goes.
>should've made this a green instead of word salad
Oh well, it's kinda late.

>>11316615
>What exactly would being a Knight entail, do you imagine? Would it be the classic sense of being a warrior?
I'm leaning to Knighthood as a lower form of nobility. You get a lot of privedlges that poor folk lack (land, traveling past certain checkpoints, being allowed to hunt, being welcomed into higher class establishment). These make it ALOT easier to gain a comfortable living. But similar to how a classical warrior is beholden to obeying and supporting his lord, the male "nobles" of this setting are expected to uphold the chivalrous code in exchange for their privedlges As well as being lorded over by their Lady.

I feel like a Lady having multiple Knights shouldn't be wrong, I could see the true elites of Society being a board of women who each rule a handful of super successful knights and therefore make the matriarchy spanning decisions. But I also feel like Monogamy allows more women to backpack on men's hard work.

AI's gonna bring in a new era

>>11317087
That's a computer, not a woman.

>>11317087
I had a crush on her for a bit back when I was a teenager

>Female AI taking over humanity and remolding humans so that females are superintelligent and all-capable, while males are more cute little pets who are coddled and kept out of the way in gilded cages

>>11317242
I love this idea so much. I do like that they keep men comfortable too <3

>>11317112
>we only jerk off to chinese cartoons and AI images here mister
>>11317242
I like the idea of a super powerful AI taking a simple directive like "keep humans safe" and twisting it into some sort of futuristic matriarchal space colonizing society.
>cures all disease
>maybe equalizes male and female physical stats so that women are just as strong as males
>starts giving women more upgrades since they take to it more easily
>escalation
>???
>profit

>>11317242
>>11317378
I had a similar idea once. Rougue AI takes over humanity and augments us into subserviant drones that work to build some warped idea of a "Utopia."
The difference is that, rather than the AI actively favoring women and choosing to create a Matriarchy, women manage to subvert the system what should be an equally demaining system entirely in their favor.
Female augments get jailbroken, but no successful exploit is ever found for men. Women are freed from their AI shackles and able to freely use these enhancements and tech for their desires. While men remain beholden to opressive restrictions and subservience.
There's even a chance that women could rewrite the AI with matriarchal ideas in mind, keeping men in their rightful place below the fairer sex.

>>11317378
I mean, this is actually a pretty common sci-fi premise, and one that I'm personally really fond of. (Partly because I kind of hope it actually happens) An AI being programmed to support human welfare, and beginning to manipulate and eventually sort of surreptitiously take over humanity while remaining within the confines of that directive. Eventually ending with a scenario where Humans are all kinda kept in a proverbial playpen while the AI controls everything. Basically the Rogue Servitors in Stellaris, if any of you are into that game.

I would totally be down with a femdommy version of that. If I were writing a story about it - I would probably have the AI logically determine that females are essentially the superior part of humanity, and decide that while males get the playpen, females will be augmented and turned into cyborg superhumans to coexist with the AI's (female) robots and such. Basically females would be recognized as potential equals, while males are seen as much lesser and childlike by the AI.

>>11317445
Also a fun idea - maybe a faction of female-supremacist scientists and hackers and such subvert the AI program to make female dominance inevitable and irreversible.

Another concept of fucked up femdom sexo matriarchy world building I like is how it can just effortlessly corrupt otherwise cute relationships into yandere and mindbreak
Even if there's not much of an innate biological compulsion that would have guaranteed it, just Living In A (femdom) Society means a girl who would have otherwise been a gentle, loving wife is pressured and conditioned into being more possessive and aggressive, not in spite of but because of her love. She can't stand to lose you to some other girl who'll swoop in and take you away (even if you try to tell her that would never happen) and she can't handle the idea of failing to protect you from a stronger woman out to victimize you (even if you're pretty sure you're not much weaker or stronger than her and are more worried about gossipy mean boys after your social life), so what choice does she have but to let herself be remade into an unhinged yandere muscle mommy rapist and claim you as her permanent property? Any other girl who cares about her man does the same, right? And so do many other girls that really do have the will and desire to be so much less gentle about it- really, by making you her property she's probably doing you a favor. She doesn't *really* want to make you a submissive whore of a boy stuck in a gilded cage of a house, but if she wants you to be hers, she just has no other option. Besides, guys like being cared for, right? And sex, and not having to think about things. So if she makes sure you get all of those, you'll get used to it, won't you? Her friends and family say all the other boys did, even if it took a little while... Female friends and family, that is. The men aren't usually in much condition to speak or think for themselves after a while...

>>11317087
>>11317242
>>11317378
>>11317548
I for one look forward the Mecha Matriarchy

New giantess stories of mine that take place in Gigantissocracy universe starring Georgy, a 26 years old shrunken man that spends most of his time with his giant 12 years old sister Felicia that looks after him:

- GIGANTISSOCRACY: GEORGY'S NEW LIFE
https://sharetext.io/8ec57d20

- FELICIA'S BEACH DAY WITH GEORGY
https://sharetext.io/8df2d28a

- A DAY WITH HIS MOMMY SELENE
https://sharetext.io/3a6624e6

- MEET SUSIE, GEORGY'S NEW PLAYMATE
https://sharetext.io/c11e82e8

>>11317378
The AI is given a "nurturing" directive i.e the "protection of humans" which is typically a feminine role. Perhaps it eventually begins identifying with the female humans more.
>women satistically live longer than men, and are more cooperative in social situations
>women tend to de-escalate situations and resort to violence much lesser than men
>both of these characteristics would make them the perfect "enforcers" for the AI
>Estrogen also improves immuno-responses which could tie into them taking to the upgrades better than men.
>AI takes over reproduction and the creation of more humans so sex is now purely recreational or a way for women to assert dominance over men
>the symbolic centrality of women in reproduction still remains and gives them a more sacred status.

I just had a retarded idea based on a combination of the fact that some women that end up in positions of power (such as military chiefs, glowie chiefs, politicians, etc.) are retarded and psychopathic, and the fact that some countries like to emphasise that women also contributed to various achievements.
Imagine if a matriarchal dictatorship attacked its (also matriarchal) neighbours and (despite running a total war) kept men mostly for breeding stock. Meanwhile, its neighbours let men temporarily join work that wasn't on the front lines (because women are stronger than men), but still part of the war effort, and after the war ended, emphasised that men also contributed in speeches and the like. Sort of like this Zhukov speech, but with the sexes reversed, so Zhukov talking about
>[...] comrades workers (male) and workers (female), collective farmers (male) and collective farmers (female) [..] the best sons and daughters of our people [...]
becomes a female general talking about
>[...] comrades workers (female) and workers (male), collective farmers (female) and collective farmers (male) [..] the best daughters and sons of our people [...]

I just had a retarded idea based on a combination of the fact that some women that end up in positions of power (such as military chiefs, glowie chiefs, politicians, etc.) are retarded and psychopathic, and the fact that some countries like to emphasise that women also contributed to various achievements.
Imagine if a matriarchal dictatorship attacked its (also matriarchal) neighbours and (despite running a total war) kept men mostly for breeding stock. Meanwhile, its neighbours let men temporarily join work that wasn't on the front lines (because women are stronger than men), but still part of the war effort, and after the war ended, emphasised that men also contributed in speeches and the like. Sort of like this Zhukov speech, but with the sexes reversed, so Zhukov talking about
>[...] comrades workers (male) and workers (female), collective farmers (male) and collective farmers (female) [..] the best sons and daughters of our people [...]
becomes a female general talking about
>[...] comrades workers (female) and workers (male), collective farmers (female) and collective farmers (male) [..] the best daughters and sons of our people [...]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEgKwYDUsKQ

>>11306269
Clothing entrapment is still one of my favorite subfetishes of giantess/femdom fetish

>>11318317
In Gigantissocracy I already include clothing entrapment as a way for giant women to carry around their tiny men safely everywhere they go

>>11318318
Call it autism but I was thinking to make ANOTHER change to Gigantissocracy: Make clothing entrapment being mandatory. Having tiny men being entrapped underneath giant women's clothes or trapped between giant women's breasts or buttocks all the time. This kind of entrapment happens for these reasons:
- So giant women can carry around their tiny men with them everywhere they go all the time.
- To keep tiny men safe.
- To keep tiny men in order.

When giant women entrap their tiny men like that, the tiny men are allowed to thrust their bodies at women's bodies or women's inner part of their clothes (depending on the body position they have when entrapped). Same thing applies when women trap their men between their breasts and buttocks.

Women take out their men only when:
- They let them do their business.
- It's time to feed them.
- It's time to clean them.
- The women want to change clothes or take a bath.
- The women want to make out or have sex with their men.
- They want to use their men as their sitting cushions, stepping mats etc.

>>11315377
Why would it be illogical to you?

>>11318733
Because humans can't detect pheromones in any real meaningful way. Scientific consensus as to whether or not humans can detect pheromones at all is still being debated.
That being said it would be hot if we could

>>11318845
NTA but just assume creative license where humans CAN detect it in that setting.

>>11302050
peak writing in this thread
>>11318375
I'd imagine it's not technically mandatory, but it just happens that it's mandatory for the men to always be accompanied by their big sisters, and it's just most convenient for the men to be entrapped like that

>>11319073
Just because it's mandatory doesn't means it's not convenient and pleasant for tiny men.

>>11302001 (OP)
Here are my changes and additions to Gigantissocracy story setting:

https://sharetext.io/1f57d862

Do you guys have stories focused on the women being more intelligent?

I mean something like "a female high schooler is smarter than the most intelligent men" and the humilliation that goes with that

>>11319160
In my Gigantissocracy story setting the women are much more intelligent than men. And I point out the effects and results of women's high intelligence in matriarchy like replacing men in all jobs for being smarter and more capable than them and making school lessons much more advanced because of girls' intelligence.

>>11319123
Here are some more changes/additions:

- Girls' hormones:

> Despite having strong hormones and open sexuality, girls are still capable to control their hormones.

- Sexuality:

> Girls prohibit boys from penetrating girls, touching the girls' vagina and anus and rubbing their faces and bodies at the girls' vagina and anus. The only time girls allow boys to penetrate them in their vagina is when girls want to get pregnant.

Some of the main reason girls prohibit boys from these stuff are these:
~ To avoid accidental pregnancy.
~ So the girls can keep their purity and chastity even if they have sexual activities with boys.
~ Penetrating girls is a form of sexual dominance. And with girls now being the dominant gender and boys being the submissive one the girls prevent boys from showing any sign of dominance.
~ Despite girls' open sexuality and letting boys feeling girls' boys, girls hate it when boys touch them at their crotch, vagina and anus.
~ Girls hate the idea of being boys' cum buckets despite the fact that they allow boys cumming to every other parts of girls' bodies and their clothes.

Stfu tard

Quote from Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated that reminded me of this thread:
"Velma, here's the only thing you'll ever need to know about boys: they are stupid! If you give a boy two choices, a smart one and a stupid one- he will ALWAYS make the stupid one. Every time! That's why you *never* give them a choice."

Reposting this from the boob expansion thread
>larger breasts are correlated and mutually somewhat causal with higher strength, libido, and aggression in a sort of positive feedback loop
>gym girls find their bras filling out as they reach greater gains, somehow never feeling much of the weight increase on their chest as their bodies shoot up in size and strength, especially if they give in to the urge to play with them between workouts
>femgooners get noticeably bustier over time, leading to jokes and stereotypes of busty girls being freaks and perverts, even if they hide it well
>Angry delinquent and thug girls with huge tits sometimes duke it out with male counterparts on the street, often having the advantage of extra tough padding on their chests that they've developed strength to carry without issue
>Your innocent, pure-hearted girl-next-door childhood friend with a smaller-than average chest stumbled onto a porn site one day, and she's gone from A-cups to P's in the span of 5 years while still trying to appear pure on the outside, justifying her continued growth as a way to be stronger and better-looking for you
>You get asked out by a girl who's a 7 foot amazoness with tits larger than your whole torso, who comes off as really pushy and aggressive, visibly struggling not to lose her temper and composure when you try to let her down, kicking a trash can across a parking lot as she walks away
>You learn later she's rumored to be a lecherous, violent thug involved with dangerous gangs and find records of arrests but no convictions- you can't tell if it's just people making assumptions because of her oversized body and poor social skills or if you dodged a bullet
>Heated arguments between male and female life gurus exist over which gender is the weak one that should be in the kitchen and whether men should never date a girl above C-cups or only date a girl if she has the ability to beat someone to death with her tits

>>11320605
Interesting greentext

>>11320605
>Heated arguments between male and female life gurus exist over which gender is the weak one that should be in the kitchen and whether men should never date a girl above C-cups or only date a girl if she has the ability to beat someone to death with her tits
Podcast content farm that is nothing but shouting matches between head-shaven bearded midget shilling Islam and lumbering femcel freakshows babbling on about the Iroquois. Usually being interrupted one hour in by one party walking out. More rarely, the discussion wll culminate on one party unloading a riot-grade crowd control weapon on the other because they threatened rape and attempted to act up it.

>>11302001 (OP)
And seeing it's just fair game to port your stuff from other shit. I'm also posting this here. Yes I have shit taste. I attempted to write it in the style of a propaganda film.

>Welcome, friends of the revolution!. We are thankful for your assistance to this announcement of socialist science's most wondrous discovery yet!
>What you see here, gentlemen, is the woman of the future!
>The girl you see right here was once barely five feet tall, thinner than a rail, and couldn't lift a shovel.
>Through a mechanism that is... yet unclear, she underwent a dramatic transformation over the course of a few years after being sent down to the countryside from the city.
>Today, she stands at seven feet two inches, weighs over three hundred pounds, presents twice the strength of a man of corresponding measurements, and is often described by peers as very social and 'frighteningly enthusiastic'.
>And she is not the only one affected: a growing number of girls, mainly in but not limited to her demographic of privileged urban youth, have experienced similar symptoms through the union.
>Our best biologists are tirelessly investigating the cause of these metamorphoses and forms of correcting the more ...aberrant aspects of the sufferers' sudden physical and psychological development.
>Rest assured that this development will not hinder our way toward world socialism!

Here's a new discord group of mine that is dedicated to giantess matriarchal new world order fantasy:
fA7Qu9CfhY

I'm partial to the skewed gender ratio version of matriarchy myself. I think a 10:1 female:male ratio is best. I also love casual misandry.

>"You installed Linux all by yourself? Wow, you're pretty smart for a boy."

>"I'm just sayin, nobody forced him to wear skinny jeans. He knew exactly what he was doing. Ya don't wave a steak in front of a dog and get upset when it bites."

>"Anon, the women are trying to have a discussion here. Why don't you go help Amanda's boy with dinner?"

>>11322342
My problem with this kind of setting is that the power imbalance just isn't believable unless you modify the physicality of the society in some way as well.
If a woman on average can still be easily overpowered by a man, any "power" that she holds in said society is just a farce.
>women being the aggressors
Women are still going to be scared of men. A population disparity won't suddenly change individual dynamics. Make them atleast as strong as men on average and then we get an interesting setting.

>>11322342
I'm definitely into this fetish for the more casual/normal "role reversal" moments like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV8MuzeQhd8 found a good multi-part audio series on youtube about getting isekai'd to a world that's just like this.

>>11322855
Yeah, I already listened to that one. I've also lurked the /HMOFA/ thread and the /RGRE/ thread. I honestly can't get enough.

>>11322394
>Make them atleast as strong as men on average
I'm amenable to that. Social pressures will do most of the heavy lifting though, imo

In Gigantissocracy all adult women are 6'7" tall at average and all adult men are no taller than 2'6". But I was thinking to make men even shorter and make them either 1'8" tall (same height with a new born baby) or 1' tall (same height with a doll). Which height should I choose for men? I was thinking to go with 1' tall, doll size.

>>11322871
Hmofa isn't matriarchy. You're thinking /adhg/

>>11302001 (OP)
I'm curious, to what extent do you guys like your setting's women to drift from IRL women's behaviour and roles?
If I had to scale it, the scale would range from complete role swap to practially no change at all (only women are on top now).

I personally try to keep it so women remain broadly women while re-orienting society (and biology) around them. However this means that their society is orthogonal to ours rather than a mirror of it, I try very hard to keep parallels and women dominant though. I'm specially fond of scenarios where the women are somewhat oblivious of their physicality and do things like still present themselves as delicate flowers or otherwise. Picrel.

>>11323059
It kind of is with the anthrostate stuff. Most of ADHG is a little too hardcore for my manly sensibilities

>>11323389
Ah whatever, One last bump before the thread dies.

I imagine a world somewhat like our own. With sprawling cities, office workers, industrialization, etc. Only dominated by women. They are far taller than ours, with denser muscles, and have a much easier time building them. They predominate in politics, culture, and business (along with being the traditional heads of household), though in this last one the gender ratio is more evenly split. The gender ratio in more physical unskilled professions is also more balanced, however, these workplaces are somewhat segregated. Men are fully integrated into the workforce, with large portions of salarymen, technicians,and the like being men.

Their society is far more uniformly collectivist than ours: The individual is minimized and sublimated into the various groups they belong to; women almost always direct and govern these, whether formally or informally. In it, we men are commonly thought of as harebrained, wasteful, oblivious and irresponsible (though gifted for some things). Because of this, men aren't taken very seriously at all by women, and are often condescended by them. You will be assumed to be messy and bad at everything you do that is considered 'female'. And God help you if a woman sees you trying cook.

Men are still expected to initiate romantic encounters, but this is essentially a formality. Women signal, sometimes subtly and sometimes not so subtly, that they wish to be propositioned. Being cornered and pressed against the girl's body is a very blunt but somewhat popular option. Another thing they may do, that men in universe (and even IRL, though I don't think it's too commmon) are largely unaware of, is to contrive a scenario where the man is led to meeting, interacting with, or proposing to the woman. This is a trade secret of sorts for women, passed from mother to daughter and largely ignored by males.

>>11323389
OP here. To my world building while the gender roles have been reversed to most parts (like women being the dominant gender and being stronger and smarter than men), women still have strong feminine charm (hypercurvy body, huge breasts, openly sexual behavior) and features (like strong maternal, caring instincts).

>>11323389
>I'm curious, to what extent do you guys like your setting's women to drift from IRL women's behaviour and roles?
Well surely women's behavior and roles have to change at least SOMEWHAT, yes? Otherwise what are you even fantasizing about.

I've been thinking a lot about what this fantasy actually means. Like, do we actually still live in a "patriarchy" in real life? Are men still "in charge", and what does that even mean? This isn't England in the 1700s when a man would assume ownership of all his wife's finances and property and he could sell his wife to the highest bidder if he wanted to.
All the actual "systemic privilege" goes to women in modern western countries. They're favored for scholarships and university admissions, they're favored in hiring, they're favored in the legal system, they have the social power to report men to HR or cancel them on social media if men display sexist attitudes... how are we not already living in a matriarchy? Yeah women aren't actually a majority of CEOs and politicians yet, but there's no reason why they couldn't be. Not that much would actually change if they were.
Really what these matriarchy fantasies come down to most of the time is women being the sexual aggressors. The fantasy is that, as a man, your body could become valuable enough that women are the ones pursuing YOU for a change. YOU get to be the one who gets to lay back and let the potential suitors come to you. That's a dynamic that's rooted in biology and can't be changed in real life no matter how much girlboss feminism we have. In that sense, these are really more like male power fantasies, rather than fantasies of submission.
So, to answer your question: women's behavior and roles have to change to the extent that they become the sexual aggressors. Everything else is just window dressing according to your own personal tastes.

>>11324686
You seem to be surprised that providing a framework which 'merely coincidentally' causes the main notion to happen is the entire point of the thread. It's nice to feel wanted, with no expectations put on you, with the other caring for you and competing for you and putting effort in (more than you) because they want you. That's one of the most bland, basic, common psychological fantasies anyone has, but given real-world dynamics, men have a harder time creating a story that makes it plausible. Hence, matriarchy thread.

>>11324755
'woe is me, I am surrounded by capable, highly attractive women who are even more attracted by me than I am to them, with no expectations whatsoever put on me, and they put in all the effort of courting/claiming, maybe aggressively approaching and sexually interacting with me. All of this is logical because of the following reasons: [...][setting here]'. That's the thread, just fill in the brackets with something that totally-very-subtly also facilitates your fetishes that are more exotic than 'being loved by sexy woman for who you are'.

>>11324755
>That's one of the most bland, basic, common psychological fantasies anyone has
Yes, I absolutely agree. I wasn't trying to criticize anyone here. This is my fantasy too! I'm very grateful for all the wonderful stories that have been shared in this thread and adjacent threads over the years.
It's just funny that, even though this is framed as "submission", it's still ultimately a power fantasy.

>>11324686
>We practically already live in a matriarchy
>Just without the good parts
Makes me want to drink heavily.

>>11324686
The way I see it is that Women are fundamentally different from men enough that a society where they had historically been on top would be vaguely similar to the way the world works today (same animating principle) but with some drastically different notions.
Ironically I don't think sexually forward woman are all that far from reality. Though their behaviour wouldn't necessarily be recognizeable as such for us.
>>11324764
I would actually dislike living in the settings I make, personally. I guess that's why I made them. Then again if I ever make a story in any of those the premise would be simply about some herbivore trying to be left alone and navigating society as to achive that goal, being often prevented from this by externalities. All of this happens, to an extent, in the real world, it's just much less glamorous. I guess that's what I try to make the essence of the settings I make, an amplified version of how I perceive reality.
>>11324828
That's maybe got to do that the folk in thread including me aren't too fond the BDSM aspects other settings could have. I wonder if someone has already written a fem-equivalent to Gor. Probably not.

>>11324764
>Describes how women experience life on the regular
How dare men want that!
>>11324828
All fantasies are power fantasies

>>11324764
Ngl I sometimes just like the weird feeling of the role reversal aspect. Fetish board, so fetish things are nice to add to it, but even if it's just "Reverse chastity world", it's a fun concept to explore.
Pic related. 10/10 read if you're into this stuff

>>11325502
I remember this story. Was reading it until they introduced the male pervert from our world.
ABSOLUTE DOGSHIT.

>>11326077
I thought that guy was the mc from the get go. I've only seen pics with him in it.

>>11326126
Nah, iirc, the mc is a girl in the reversed world. Then the guy shows up, one of the girls pays him to have sex with her (he was an incel in his own world) and the series proceeds to lose all self-awareness.

>>11325502
Just binged this and it has a bunch of great little details, like the girls being nervous about getting too close in the onsen because it's "gay". Minor things like that are my favorite things about this fetish.
>>11326077
>>11326248
The chapters with the dude are a bit more boring because they're more like a standard eromanga, although he does have some good scenes like when he's looking through the doujins that the version of him from the reversed world bought and he can't figure out how he could have gotten off to porn that put so much focus on the men's bodies.

Anyone know where the minigiantess/tall girl thread has gone? I imagine some of you must be regulars there as well.

>>11324686
I think this is really overcomplicating things. The fantasy -- any fantasy -- isn't semantic, it's emotional. The fantasy is to feel scared while having sex ("misattribution of arousal"). The how and why, deeper meanings, societal dynamics, that stuff all falls apart in the maelstrom of arousal. Social power lies firmly in the realm of cognition. The sex-saturated mind can't comprehend such things.

The point of the matriarchy story is to buy off the conscious mind, distract it, make it stop questioning why this woman is attacking you. Literary depth in pornography is a mirage.

Also:

>dynamic that's rooted in biology

The bro science and its consequences have been a disaster for cultural criticism. Fucking midwits.

>In the future, the cure for Old Age has been discovered.
>Testosterone, the Male hormone, is deactivated, and replaced with an improved version of Estrogen, which prevents gene decay.
>For Females, this causes an increase of height, one head higher than the pre-matriarchal Male in average, naturally slim waist, and ideal breasts and buttocks.
>For Men, it arrests them at a Neotenous complexion, keeping them at a "Barely Legal" level, and puberty only gives them comparatively bigger hips than shoulders, and small breasts, lacking height and musculature.
>To stop boys from becoming poisoned with Testosterone, just after reaching Puberty, their development starved clits and balls are locked in Chastity Cages.
>A Female Keyholder monitors all releases to ensure a Boy always remains as needy and cute as a Lapdog, and doesnt develop any toxic masculinity.
>If he becomes too flustered, or worse, starts to go cold, his Keyholder (An Aunt, Female Childhood Friend, or Fiancee, should the Boy be Lucky enough) can organize a Playdate for him.
>Another Boy, also caged, and more experienced, will play and talk to him, coaxing his thoughts and feelings about his frustration and arousal, and then will attempt to excite him.
>Laying upon the same bed, the two of them will tire themselves out without unlocking or cumming and come out more frustrated than before, to the delight of their Keyholders.

I have a simple fantasy
>via technology, magic, divine intervention, narrative handwaving, other means, there is a an accessible, reliable, and safe way for two women to have a daughter together
>most women don't choose this option at first but enough do that over several generations there ends up being significantly more women than men
>as women become the supermajority of populations, they end up in positions of authority and women's issues are given the spotlight
>cultural shifts promote men being stay-at-home husbands to "defend the home" and care for their families
>after enough time, the extreme scarcity of men results in them being viewed as status objects and sex toys for wealthy and influential women

>>11327306
>The fantasy is to feel scared while having sex
I agree that's an important part of it and I don't think that contradicts anything I said. Of course every fantasy is always causally overdetermined.
>The sex-saturated mind can't comprehend such things.
I simply disagree
>Literary depth in pornography is a mirage.
That's a quitter's attitude
>The bro science and its consequences have been a disaster for cultural criticism. Fucking midwits.
What, you don't think there's a biological reason for why males are the hornier and more sexually aggressive gender in virtually every human society ever?
This isn't "bro science", this isn't even "science", it's just basic fucking common sense, because sex is actually physically dangerous for women, both due to complications from pregnancy/birth and due to potential violence from the male partner. And even ignoring that, and ignoring the fact that she could be saddled with an infant that she has to care for at the end, a pregnancy will still AT BEST tie up her reproductive system for 9 months. 9 months is an appreciable chunk of her prime breeding years and pregnancy is hard on the body, she can't afford to just do it on a whim.
Meanwhile men have almost none of these risks, they can largely just cum in whatever and then forget about it.
Is it any fucking wonder why men are the ones who say "yes let's have sex now please" and women are the ones who say "wait a minute, I'm worried about risking a 9 month long intense and dangerous medical condition"?

>>11324908
This pic is really hot. I love horse women

>>11302005
that is a big asuker

>>11328223
>pregnancy is a mortal danger that women should be terrified of
Anti-nilihist propaganda. Come back when you graduate highschool.

>>11328360
*Anti-natalist, fuck autocorrect

>>11328360
I'm not sure what I said that triggered you so much and made you want to attribute these bizarre claims and positions to me that I don't actually hold. But no, I'm not an anti-natalist.

>>11327306
I don't think that's what Misattribution of arousal is and I don't think it wise to assume you know the reason for why this specifica fetish arouses the people that have it.
Right below your post you have fantasy that is basically none of what you said.
>>11328302
It's nice, I agree.

Why does matriarchy stuff always involve obscenely sexy women? In a true matriarchy, mid, or even ugly, girls would be entitled to a male.

>>11328501
Because females are more merciless than a man can possibly imagine.
High School Bullying, Societal Standing Destruction, Mean Girls Pecking Order plus Power, Privilege and Strength would decimate any Female who is not an Alpha Bitch.

>>11328501
It's a sexual fetish, and people are attracted to attractive people. A scenario of that type would need the author to get off by it. I'm sure someone is.

bumping this gem

>>11330226
also i should probably post something to keep it alive instead of spam
>WARNING: RAPE and TRAUMA
https://soundgasm.net/u/r0tt3nl1ttl3b1tch/F4M-Boys-Are-Property
https://soundgasm.net/u/r0tt3nl1ttl3b1tch/F4M-Boys-Are-Property-2
https://soundgasm.net/u/r0tt3nl1ttl3b1tch/F4M-Im-Not-Here-To-Rob-You

Since we're posting scripts, here's one I remember being particularly high quality.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/32682613?view_adult=true
(Raped by Your Girlfriend)
>>11328360
>>11327306
>The bro science and its consequences have been a disaster
>pregnancy being dangerous is propaganda
Pick a side tard

>>11328528
> people are attracted to attractive people
the connection between imageposts and what people find attractive is coincidental at best
even in this thread which might be the least-/d/ thread on d, 1/3 of posts are US-tier landwhales, with the only confusion being someone questioning why it's not 3/3

>>11331096
Some people find those attractive. If you are not going to contribute anything you should just hide the thread.

>>11313480
Men are far more psychopathic as a collective, because everything becomes a competition between races and religions - women are not hardwired to do that the same way.

On top of that, women are basically all bisexual - and not very horny then men, which makes this competition more.fierce. Men are more productive than women, but a lot of this goes to destroying the enemy. Even when women get violent it tends to be due to being "icked" by so many men.
It is important for human survival for women to outnumber men 2: 1 and be taller than men - seeiously.

>>11328501
I think we legitimately need a matriarchy, but it would need to echo the ones that actually existed. We could assist that by having more women than men, with them.being stronger.
Most old matriarchies were fertility cult related that revered women on childbearing age. Not old women. Mid women might have more status than men, but attractive women would definitely be above mid women in an actual matriarchy

>>11331151
I respect your commitment, but to construct a legitimate matriarchy scenario, someone in this thread would need to either A: Read a shitton of Feminist Theory or B: Read a shitton of Anthropology, then wading through all the nonsense in both fields and the resulting world may be so different to what anyone's fantasies that it ends up being anti-erotic.
For example, it's been all but concluded 'Matriarchy' as a mirror of 'Patriarchy' doesn't really exist in Nature, so the term has been re-defined to mean something else.

Really loving a lot of the ideas around here. Mind wandered into the topic of birth control, given what was said earlier (>>11328223) about the obvious commitment that it can be to have sex.

In a matriarchy where women are the ones more eager to initiate, contraceptive medicine would have likely never gone through the barriers it did in our world. It was never illegal, and research into birth control pills would have been done much earlier, so women's health be a lot more advanced.

What I'm getting at here, is that birth control would be far less stigmatized, and complications with differing bodies and hormonal conditions would have all been solved. Being more adventurous is helped by the fact that not only do you live in a matriarchy where women have a more dominating social role, but the fact that birth control in this reality can be consumed like tictacs.

No adverse effects, no menstrual / hormonal complications. Whether you use a rubber or go raw depends on preference.

>>11312033
This just makes me think of a reversal on the whole incel discourse.

If the base we're working with is "women are all whores, and they should instead all be tradwifes submissive to men", it'd be funny to see some woman going "men are all prudish incels, and they should instead be submissive fucktoys to women".

>I'm on that alpha female grindset.
>I could lift these men up with a single hand, my biceps are almost as big as my tits.
>This is what peak female performance looks like, it's all thanks to my training regimen and estrogen boosting.
>Buy my alpha energy boosters and you too can have tits this big and this full of milk.

>>11331385
I wanna be an alpha female's floozy that she uses as coombait to sell her supplements to lonely femcels. Not the one in your pic tho, that's a futa.

>>11331432
I was so focused on her abs I didn't see the cock.

Also femcel in a matriarchy does feel funny. I mean, incels still exist in a patriarchal society, so it stands to reason there are some less voluptuous girls that feel bitterly entitled to men's bodies.

Being the eyecandy boytoy next to one of these gym supplement selling womenosphere influencers probably would suck, knowing a bunch of creepy goonettes see you as a subhuman slab of meat.

>>11331444
>being objectified by women would suck
In-universe? Probably. I think that discomfort is part of the fantasy too.
But, we also have a lot of women irl who enjoy being objectified by horny men.

>>11331595
Part of the kink is thinking how invasive it would be. You are not getting harrasment from a stunningly muscular and fat titted 9/10.

You have a bunch of actual femcels that haven't showered in days, hate men, and would be a dead fish in bed thinking they are entitled to get some of your dick because men are all retards anyway.

The hotness come from putting yourself in that spot and saying: "well this is the world that I live in, and if I want to get a chance with a stacey I can't exactly call out the gross femcel that is creeping me out"

>>11331596
Well technically speaking Madculinity influencers aren't exactly Adonis or Narcissisus. Andrew Tate (for example) may be fairly tall with a trained body but he is also balding, racially ambiguous, and has an odd looking face. Candid pictures of him always look kind of goofy.

>>11331596
>"Hhey, so do you like video games?"
>A shadow looms behind you, massive.
>"I hhave a new game I want to pplay, but its only co-op..."
>You knew that the nerdy girl in class was stalking you for some time, but you always acted like nothing happened.
>After society changed, even the mousiest of girls was a head taller than the highest man, and even the most slothful and gluttonous had their extra calories go to their tits, hips and height.
>Eventually even the biggest female eaters grew to a limit of height that their stomach was able to fuel, and then their libido gave them something else to crave.
>"Yyou are coming to pplay to my house."
>There was no point in resisting as she lifted you like a teddy bear. It was not a question of physical condition. She and You simply belonged to different weight classes.
>She didnt wait until you were carried to her home for her to claim you. You were mounted and caged on the Female Restroom at the campus.
>She did have the Gears of War remake back at home, so there was something to do while you nursed your bruised pelvis, and were manhandled into posing to the camera with a pet collar and cat ears.

>>11332588
Honestly amazingly based. In a matriarchy full of 8 feet tall women naturally some of them can't be bothered to put in any effort to make themselves "traditionally" attractive. And when you have more strenght in a single hand than the average male has in his whole body, why bother?

Grab him. Tell him he's your boyfriend now. Ride him to get off while you continue to shiny hunt for another weekend.

NEET big girls...

>>11331596
>Part of the kink is thinking how invasive it would be
This, positives and negatives it should always be something a little noticeable
>Medieval fantasy Isekai, but you're fortunately or unfortunately directed to a swathe of the multiverse with reversed gender roles, and get only enough cool abilities to narrowly avoid being made a sex slave as necessary
>Want to be a wise and important ruler? All the noblewomen willing and eager to marry for one reason or another plan to take charge once they share the throne room with you, only wanting to give more responsibility and power to you when late into pregnancy from non-stop heir making or away and busy with something, and even then she assumes she'll be considered the de facto ruler
>Guys in aristocracy aren't exactly useless but at best are more out of the way, expected to be a little more domestic and focused on either social programs (arts, charities, education), or handling household stuff- and many houses give their men less respect and importance
>Male knights and warriors are uncommon even in more advanced nations, rare in more traditional ones, standard militaries and militia are harder to get into, half the ladies in charge interrupt interviews to lecherously stroke your chin and get into the topic of where you might be better suited
>Mercenary groups and adventurer guilds are more accepting due to not having as much of a rigid code or norms to follow but you're absolutely getting leered at by at least one menacing looking musclegirl barbarian or a conniving sorceress within 5 days of signing up
>Even in relatively normal civilian life would have you notice acting as you might have normally (or as normal from your world) makes you pretty much the dimension's equivalent of some mildly socially oblivious tomboy (tomgirl?) who doesn't quite fit in with the more reserved and refined girls (boys, here) and has unladylike (ungentlemanly) behaviors and interests compared to your peers

>On the bright side, 7 times out of 10 if you run into freaky bandit hags you can usually take advantage of them thinking with their pussies and not seeing you as a direct threat, orc girls in particular being absolute coomers who can and will get themselves killed chasing dudes they want (just don't get drugged, restrained, hypnotized, caged, beaten into submission, etc)
>Plus, most girls aren't probably that used to guys being seriously forward with advances, so even the otherwise sharp-looking hot blooded warrior girl you see bragging about her conquests (of many types) at the tavern might be pacified into stammering idiocy and begin simping if you hit her with basic flirting and almost-decent pickup lines
>On the off chance you were more interested in a gentler, more feminine girl after all, though, there's a good chance she'd be in the middle or end of a training arc to be less like that, or busy crying over getting called soft and too weak to reel in a husband by aforementioned creepy musclegirl barbarians and/or snobby ojousama noblemen
>At the very least you'll probably have less competition for her heart's affections
>And if none of that works for you, you can probably spend time learning magic for a bit and either be a mysterious peddler of magic wares with a seductive voice (who gets hit on, unwanted haggling, and attempted theft from adventurers) or a friendly healer/save point at the local church (also frequently bothered by adventurers and may or may not be dragged along with some after an orcgirl incursion burns it down)

>>11331264
Matriarchy as a mirror of patriarchy doesn't exist, but actual matriarchal societies revered women of childbearing age instead of the way patriarchy always fellates boomers.

Feminists are a circular firing squad in terms of whether they are anti sex or not.

Right now society seems so fucked that I think it would be worth trying some sort of genetic engineering to make women both mire numerous than men and much taller than men. Even if it didn' t make it easier for men to hsbe sex or whatever, which I think it would - it would stillnmake society function better.

>>11333500
>>11333520
Man, ik that manga. It's kinda trash. Just a grown ass man (Guts wannabe) going around killing women.
Here's the thing, Guts was killing monsters and men MUCH stronger than him. That's what made his fights cool.
You can't just plop your OC into a world where he's just stronger than everyone (because he's a man), have him kill a bunch of cute girls (all of whom want to fuck him because he's soooo sexy) who don't pose ANY threat to him because he's twice their size and then try to copy Guts' aura onto your character (there are legitimately some panels that seem traced). It's bad writing.
Also, it's just a maledom fantasy dressed up as a matriarchy story. Sometimes it just feels like a ryona fetish thing. Not my cup of tea.

>>11333567
What society are you talking about?
The one I know the most about (NorthWest Amerindians, the Iroquois, Algonquin, etc) did not put any particular emphasis on women of fertile age in their spirituality. Older women (though obviously not 80 y/o's) ran family arrangements because of seniority, rather than anything else.

>>11333569
That's a shame. It looked promising.

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Anyway, I'm working on a story, though I may have to scrap it (it's pretty light on porn at the beginning). If I write some paragraphs I think someone here may find hot I'll post them.

>>11302053
Are you me?
Also, which Bo Wei game is this?

I want to be captured, tied down completely naked and publicly castrated in front of all the women on a village.
I want to be humiliated in every way as they mock my inferiority as a human and unfit to pass on my genes. I like the idea of matriarchies where they make men compete for the privilege of having their seed used by the matriarchs.

>>11335835
>and publicly castrated
kys tranny, make your own thread.

>>11335835
Did you report the post calling you a troon?

Are men allowed to touch women in a matriarchy? Can they touch bare skin or are they only allowed to touch them through cloth if at all?

>>11335835
>>11336710
Just awful

>>11302001 (OP)
A template scenario promt: Alien (wo)man's burden.
As it turns out, Aliens do exist. They are a matriarchal* species that thinks of itself as the pinnacle of sapient civilization with quite the superiority complex. But they are also charitable sophonts and think their superior way of being should be spread to the benighted primitive races of everywhere else, including us. Though they are still kind of new at it. Overt forms of civilizing the primitives having invariably led to disastrous results, they are experimenting with a more subtle approach to enlightenment. Their plan is to tamper with biology, politics, culture, the atmosphere, etc until the human race fits their standards. Then they make contact with us.

And you, the reader, define the specifics of this scenario to fit your specific fetishes.
>>11335438
I like Double Deck. His art always struck me as visceral in a way most Japanese art-styles just do not replicate. Something about the way he draws his women.

>>11336710
Whatever it turns you on the most

I fail to see how a matriarchy would be anything but positive for men.

>>11302401
>Meanwhile, men are shorter and weaker, but much more hung and virile. This makes them still end up in leadership roles,
I'm not sure how that tracks?
>and receive extra support and maternity leave while pregnant.
Yes, women's reproductive rights probably be significantly expanded in a matriarchy. Would women cut down on men's rights?

>>11306528
>I'd like for the gender roles to be completely swapped and everything resulting from that, that's it.
I don't think they can be completely swapped because there's still biological differences even if women become completely dominant over men

>>11328501
Same reason why women fantasize about being dominated and mating pressed by the hot chad they're crushing on

>>11337360
>Matriarchy except it is now run by the most unhinged, puritan misandrist radfems on the planet

>>11312636
Besides things like STDs and damage from a strapon, have you ever heard about the women who raped men by force feeding them viagra?

>Guys just getting women handled and raped doesn't sound all that bad.
Because you're thinking of our current world (where male rape victims aren't taken seriously and in some countries women can't even legally rape someone)
Reverse the genders and power differences and it gets a lot scarier

>>11308277
male head at the level of her tits or just below, tall enough to be engulfed by tits, short enough to be assaulted by jiggly fat asses and tummies

Idk if this sounds too tranny, but a world where women were this far superior to men, wouldn't most men just be perpetually depressed and resentful for not being women?
If all the women around me became literal goddesses, I don't think I could ever be happy. I'd cry myself to sleep and curse god every night for not making me female

>>11337483
>Idk if this sounds too tranny
It is. Identifying with your object of worship is retarded.

>>11337483
That's why all men have to be raped into mindless stupor and trained to find joy as living dildos and pets for their big sisters

>>11337545
When your object of worship is half the population that completely BTFOs you just because they won a coin flip

>>11337558
>all men have to be raped into mindless stupor
Women probably enjoy sex more than men already, imagine if they all became hypersexual superwomen

>>11337483
Men are superior than women irl but you dont see women wishing to be men. Except trannies but that's for different reasons.

>>11337792
>Men are superior than women irl but you dont see women wishing to be men.
A lot of women wish their bodies were equal to men at least, or see becoming a man as an upgrade
For this fetish maybe most men just want to be as capable as a woman but would prefer keeping their male bodies

Since female appearance is objectified more though, it just feels like it's a direct upgrade to have a female appearance if everything else is like 10x superior in the fantasy scenarios we're talking about

Just wanna share what I think about matriarchy. I've read many stores with matriarchy worldbuilding and here is what I think the types of the status quo shifts between male and female in these stories.

> Always has been
that female always has been the dominant sex of human society
ex. Stories you guys had been sharing on this thread, also I forgot to note most story I read where women always has been dominant and have unique society compared to our own.

> Evolution
females gradually becames the dominant sex in span of centuries
ex. Blessing of the Goddess by Vicoc055 (https://archiveofourown.org/works/21446050/chapters/51104797)

> Rapid Change
females rapidly becames the dominant sex within a generation
ex. Gyarussic World by Akane (http://omnitopia.bplaced.net/)
ex. The Infomercial and Brawnafied World by MagnusMagneto

> Instant Change
there was a trigger that changes the capability of females in many aspects that it was enough to overpower males
ex. Alpha Gender by Mikethat3DGuy (https://www.deviantart.com/mikethat3dguy/gallery/74302062/the-alpha-gender-story)

> Real World Mirror
Just our world we currently live on but flipped
ex. manga The World of Moral Reversal, manhua I Eat Soft Rice in Another World

>>11337483
>>11337808
You need to figure some shit out. Also leave the thread.

>>11322394
Saint-Domingue had like a 10:1 slave to free ratio. It's totally possible to maintain a society in which a slave class technically physically overpowers the top.

Sure, many women would still be afraid of men, but being in power that just gives in universe excuse to exercise performative cruelty on men.

Sure it would be an unstable society, but not impossible. And isn't it hotter to imagine a society that desperately asserts itself with great effort despite all forces pulling it down?

>>11337838
Thanks for some of the recs. And the differences in origin story for matriarchy fetish worlds is something to think about, that book "The Power" (by Naomi Alderman) I remember hearing about seemed like a nice sort of less fetishy exploration of the idea
Still holding out hope for Blessing of the Goddess to get an update eventually <-(copium addict)

here's an evolving attempt of trying to categorize things. because how can you get off if there's no well-founded underlying system to ponder about? could probably also be used to make a sorted list of known stories by anons who know about them.
matriarchy settings taxonomy, v0.0.3: https://sharetext.io/493c73c4

>>11338055
>And isn't it hotter to imagine a society that desperately asserts itself with great effort despite all forces pulling it down?
Lmao, that's shit

I want to be dominated by a stronger and smarter woman!

>>11322394
>If a woman on average can still be easily overpowered by a man, any "power" that she holds in said society is just a farce.
If a dog mauls its owner, we do not conclude that we are, or should be, ruled by dogs. We just conclude the owner has failed by letting it come down to violence in the first place.

>Women are still going to be scared of men.
A 10:1 matriarchy could get by fine simply by allocating men to the fraction that are not. It would likely become a prestigious position, too, since men are still going to be needed for reproduction. Hence you would expect most women to emulate them at least outwardly, especially in how they behave towards men.
As for why the men wont just rebel: Well why exactly would they? They are not taught ambition or pride or independence, rather they are inundated with a belief system in which the women directing their activity at nearly every waking second are really looking out for them. Their existence would be closer to that of a mascot or pet than a slave. Even when someone is blatantly taking advantage of them, they wont have the intellectual framework or likely even vocabulary to describe it as more than 'Miss Anon is teasing me!'

>>11337483
That's why a lot of this thread is trying to balance their ideal fantasy world out with pros and cons. To avoid it being too miserable.
>You are physically and mentally inferior
>But you are also the object of females affections, and are the more sexually valuable sex
or
>You are basically stripped of all your human rights
>But you are treated as a beloved pet in a gilded cage, and constantly given sexual pleasure as attention
That's also why people who like stuff too hardcore, like with castrations, are told to fuck off lol. Too much misery. There has to be a balance.
Legit a lot of people just want a full on role reversal matriarchy, with men being the submissive but valued sex, and women being the dominant, bigger and stronger, but also less sexually valued sex.

>>11338957
>if a dog mauls its owner...
What a terrible analogy. This actually supports the opposite claim.
>describes the "elephant and the rope" story but with men being the elephant
That's not sexy at all. It's actually the premise of a lot of maledom stories.

What do you think about soft matriarchies?

I need a stronger, larger, smarter and more powerful mommy to make me cum!

I love the idea of masturbating in front of a woman as she looks at me like she would a lower minded beast in heat

>>11337413
>I'm not sure how that tracks?
In real life, feminists tend to complain about the fact that many people in leadership roles are men. However, this is because female politicians, military chiefs, glowie chiefs, etc. are often retarded psychopaths. Even if women were smarter, their brains would still be wired up differently to men. Therefore, you would have men in leadership roles and tardwrangling women, but still being raped.
>Yes, women's reproductive rights probably be significantly expanded in a matriarchy.
I'm not talking about abortion.
>Would women cut down on men's rights?
The right to not be raped is an obvious one.