Thread 11363083

Forever Knight Buddies edition.

Previous thread: >>11351730

>>11363104
>>11363083 (OP)
Now this the kind of long-term TSF I love. I'm sick and tired of the one-off "smug girl grinning while groping self" type of shit

>>11363091
>Turns into a woman
>Immediately gets bikini armor
Based.

what you guys think?

Its a shame that abdominal pregnancy has a few pages of nude 12 year olds. The ending is pretty hot where you see that the futanari has fucked her best male friend into a pregnant woman.

>>11363099
>>11363100
>not even 10 minutes have passed after turning into a woman
>immediately start fucking your best friend
My headcanon for these stories is they were already halfway to becoming gay lovers, and TSF just accelerates the schedule

>>11362403
incest, especially when one of the two is unaware
>TSF+AR dad x son or daughter
>TSF+AP son x dad
>TSF brother x brother or sister

I had an idea of a divorced dad turning himself into a teenage girl to become friends with his daughter since he's not allowed to see her. His daughter is a lesbian and has a crush on her dad's new body, and the dad has to figure out if he wants to date his own daughter or cut her off.

>>11363188
Even better when they initially weren't related but are made related because of the transformation

>>11363192
>lesbian best friend turns MC-kun into a girl that's related to her because MC-kun has a bad home
>puts a suggestion spell on everyone so no one questions the new reality
>oops, since she didn't put the spell on herself (in case MC-kun ever wanted to go back), her subconscious registers MC-kun's new body as a cute/sexy woman
>lesbian best friend now wants to fuck MC-kun, and MC-kun (who secretly had a crush on her) reciprocates
>tsf yuri incest achieved

>>11363188
>no ftm
I can understand not liking yaoi cause I hate it too, but why not tsf'd daughter fucking her mom? or tsf'd girl fucking her sister? or tsf'd mom fucking her daughter?

Has arisane done anything recently

>>11363188
Even better if the transformation genetically separated the two and leaves the non-transformed sibling wholly unaware, but the original sibling is and has no power to stop it.

Once again asking for GF/BF couples getting TG'd together.
Bonus points if sexual arousal is mainly biological and their new bodies find each other really hot

>>11363083 (OP)
Unironic question and you all seem to be the experts for this topic
If you're doing girl ranma up their ass, is it a "man's" ass? Does he have a "bussy"? Is it gay to want to fuck him as a girl?

>>11363502
>If you're doing girl ranma up their ass, is it a "man's" ass? Does he have a "bussy"? Is it gay to want to fuck him as a girl?
Girl Ranma has a biologically female body, so she's a girl. Full stop.

>>11363502
>Does he have a "bussy"? Is it gay to want to fuck him as a girl?

Its only gay if you become fixated on his male mind and that specifically turns you on.

If you are focused on the womanly ass, no

>>11363523
>Its only gay if you become fixated on his male mind and that specifically turns you on.
Even then, is that really any different than wanting to fuck a tomboy into becoming a submissive girly girl? Gay men are attracted to male bodies specifically. If there's no male body involved, it's not gay.

Wish I could read the words on this one

>>11363527
The future is now old man

>>11363530
>future is now old man
>posts machine-translated slop with numerous grammatical errors
AI fags will never stop losing

>>11363474
at that point, it's barely incest

>>11363561
Yeah I guess I just like the pseudo-incest concept to it solely due to the unintentional traumatic aspect of it moreso than the physical taboo nature of it all.
An example of it I like is the concept of a MC who ends up becoming the subservient maid of his sister he hates that is completely unaware that the maid was her own brother. So when she orders said maid to give her cunnilingus, she's just getting head from a hot maid, but for the MC, he's forced to endure the humiliation and disgust this entails while having no control to stop it.

>>11363558
Anon, you can upload pictures yo Google translate.

You could do that before llms

Gentlemen, I would like to hear your opinions. I'm an artist, and I have draw different kinds of scenarios - and I'm thinking in tying them all together into a big setting.

With this, I need to:
>Justify how I kind of TGs can happen with different triggers
>Why characters that were TGed in different ways for different reasons bump into each other

This is what I got for worldbuilding:

>There is this lovecratian entity, "Incubus" beyond space and time that lives between worlds. He feeds on sexual energy coming from mortals. Every thousand years or so he adds some "spice" to it - At some point he was into warlords forming harems, in another he was into chivalaric love - right now he wants to turn guys into chicks.
>"Incubus" is an amoral entity that never directly interacts with the setting, he doesn't care if you enjoyed the transformation or hated it - he only cares that you end up as a sexy chick and fucks.
>Usually the way Incubus work is by planting a "seed" in something, getting it to TG someone, then feeding on their energy from then on, like a harvester. Sometimes a place will start changing people, other times an object, or an app, in rare ocasions he will empower a sorcerer to do it for him (most sorcerers have wildly different interpretations of where this powr comes from)
>The reason so many TGed characters tend to bump into each other is because Incubus energy inside them acts as a sort of "magnet" that brings them together. Some places end up filled with them - like Hollywood.

1/?

>>11363669
Here is the catch:
>In most cases, Incubus causes memmory or reality alterations to keep most of the wolrd unaware of what is going on - in fact most of the world is unaware that the supernatural IS real! There are some ways to counter it tho - tinfoil hats somehow block the memmory effects for example.
>On my main setting, the proportion of men and women is 65% of women and 35% of men (in opposition to 50/50 in ours). Their scientist come up with many reasons to justify it "its a matter of evolution, because a man can impregnate more women, natural selection favored..." - the reality is that those 15% are the amount of people that have been TGed, and apart from some few people nobody knows!
>The number "15%" is an estimation based on certain traits that TGed characters have. THIS IS THE REASON WHY SEVERAL HENTAI TROPES EXIST.

Ex: breasts that are both big and highly sensitive (when in reality bigger breasts are associated with less sensitivity), or young women with white hair (being formerly older men), or the fact that transformed women might be more fertile, or have less issues with back pain fue to big breasts and etc - basically these traits exist to justify some of the porny anatomy common in these comics

If I was to drop this bunch of trivia it would be probably in some comedic way, Like someone going:
"What I'm… like not a girl but some sort of super-girl?" or "UUURGH AWESOME! My entire existence AND anatomy is a snack for a cosmic creep" or "WAIT WHAT YOU MEAN THAT WHITE HA-DOES THIS MEAN THAT ALICE BALDWIN USED TO BE A MAN??? THE CATWOMAN FROM THE MARVEL MOVIE???"

My question to you anons in the folowing:

AM I BEING TOO AUTSITIC? AM I REMOVING THE MAGIC IF I GIVE A FULL EXPLANATION? Is this a "Midclorians" moment? Giving explanations for these things messes up with the suspension of disbelief?

What you think?

2/2

>>11363671
And the last one

>>11363669
>>11363671
>>11363672
Fetish is already autistic as fuck, explaining it will not make it substantially more autistic.
I say go for it, generally caring enough to come up with detailed worldbuilding is a good thing, not a bad thing.

>>11363673
hahaha one might think so, but in fact recently I reread the El Goonish Shive webcomic on /co/, and I realized that the creator got stuck in a weird exposition hell - where nothing can be infered and every single detail od the comic has to be explained, from every sort of transformation to where "hammers that girls use to hit guys when they make pervy comments" come from. So now I'm a bit worried.

>>11363671
>Giving explanations for these things messes up with the suspension of disbelief?
Even if you have an elaborate backstory for what's going on in your head, you don't necessarily need to spell it out. The Silmarillion isn't necessary reading in order to understand The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings. You really only need to Include the elements that are required for the readers to grasp what's immediately going on in the story you're writing.

>>11363152
Care to post just that ending, then?

In the next month or so, I'm planning to start commissioning an author I've worked with before to write some TG/TF fiction. Usually I have a very strong, direct story focus but this one is meant to be more of an anthology covering a larger scope, so I figure I might as well drop the core idea here and see if you all have any good suggestions for scenarios/chapters in the middle.

Its essentially a TG pandemic situation. Some scientists release genetically engineered mosquitos into the wild that have been tampered with to not be able to pass on diseases between humans, but it goes wrong and the mutant bugs trigger an adaptation of wolbachia (a real world parasite that triggers feminization in insects and forces them to reproduce via parthenogenesis) that now affects humans. So people are infected via bug bites and undergo feminization, and then after that they are contagious for a month or so and can pass it on to other people via bodily fluids, including as an STD.

The goal of the anthology is to cover the range from 'initial outbreak' to 'the world has to deal with an ever-growing plague of genderswaps affecting men, and they don't even know whats causing it yet' to 'by the time a treatment is discovered, men are an endangered species'.

Things I plan on including so far include stuff like "A guy whose roommate got disappeared during the initial outbreak is finally released from quarantine", "A newscaster turns into a busty woman and is pressured by their sexist boss to play into their new sex appeal for ratings. The newscaster appears in other segments on TV as a vehicle to exposit on the spread of the virus", and "Businessman father of two goes home to his family a woman, and has to explain to his wife how he caught the genderswap STD".

I'm sure you guys have scenario ideas that would fit into this sort of setup. I can add the best ones into the list, though obviously there's a limit to how many chapters this can realistically be.

>>11363809
>'by the time a treatment is discovered, men are an endangered species'.
Read this first: https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Y-The-Last-Man-2002

Does anyone know where to find that kouji stuff from the last thread? He gunshot makes something to my rate, and it's nowhere to be found.

>>11363818
Fucking autocorrect. Finally makes something to my taste.

>>11363809
you could take inspiration of how some people behaved during covid and have the STD first appear in a country like South Korea or Algeria, and have a biracial character who looks unquestionably white as a man look more asian or arabic once turned into woman so she suddenly becomes victim of racism where people blame her kind for the current plague and try to rape her wearing condoms as "revenge"

>>11363671
Yes, I think you are being too autistic but I'd rather read the autistic comic of someone who cares than someone who doesn't
as someone else said, Tolkien's statement on the open window in his story yada yada yada, but that doesn't stop you from spreading visual clues, a lot of tg comics have visual elements to help be like "oh no, this guys walked in front of the sapphire fox, he's done for!" so if I were you I'd try to keep it mostly as visual clues in the story
Especially for the thing where they're drawn to each others, you need to have some coincidence feeling to it too otherwise it might feel weird, and you can really explain it as
>they're men with men hobbies, but now they're women so they're going to gravitate toward the other women with the same hobbies unaware that they're also former men
I also think you shouldn't overthink it, go wild and go ham I'm excited to see what you and that artist will make of it

>>11363502
>If you're doing girl ranma up their ass, is it a "man's" ass? Does he have a "bussy"?
She doesn't have a prostate. So no.

>>11363598
I like the traumatic aspect of it, but I want them to still be related. Like a father turning into a teenage female version of himself and getting fucked raw by his unaware son. Kinda like how the MC's daughter was attracted to the MC's younger self in 17 Again.

>>11363502
>>11363523
Imagine if it totally counted as homo. Like you've just nutted inside the most beautiful woman you've ever seen after driving her through the mattress, and she just turns to you afterwards and says
>HAHAHAHA YOU JUST CAME INSIDE A MAN YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

>>11363671
I don't hate the scenario, but would come up with something better than tinfoil hats.

>>11363523
Have to agree to disagree here, one of the best things about genderbender is that you get the female body without having to deal with the female mind. The problem with women is their brain, gender bender solves the problem.

>>11363879
But they would have a female brain too at least physically. All of their male memories and experiences would
matter a great deal initially but once they are a biological female long enough they will start thinking like women. Wouldn't necessarily make them start acting super girly or anything but their personality would start changing

>>11363897
How do you think that would manifest, realistically? Say they tried to consciously fight their female hormones and new brain pathways in one scenario, and the subconsciously let the changes begin to slip in, in another... What changes do you think would actually be likely to manifest?

>>11363915
attracted to males, starts using their martial arts to dodge and escape rather than fight back
maybe even unconsciously seek out being seen as attractive and feminine, I like scenarios where the whiplash between the expected behaviour of a male and the expected behaviour of a female leads them into trying to conform even more to their new role than a real woman would, through I'm not sure Ranma as a character would be a good example of that I think it's an extremely erotic scenario

>>11363877
Yeah, like maybe something like virgins are less affected by the reality/memory alterations. Then it also serves the purpose of the new women getting fucked locking them into their new memories and personalities.

>>11363915
>>11363919
Subtly over time their demeanor and actions would start changing regardless of if they particularly wanted them to or not. Women's brains and their ways of thinking and problem solving do differ from men, a guy that became a woman would likely find how they react to situations changing over time.Obviously a female will have to act differently in many physical and social situations and over time that constant necessary change in behaviors will start having a psychological effect

>>11363809
How are men going to become endangered with all the children unable to get DSTs? You would need all of them to get bitten by the mosquitos, which is very unlikely, specially in cold regions.

I don't mind that Mashiro has turned to using AI, but why couldn't he have picked literally any better art style for it? He could have ripped off ooyuki's style that most of his readers are familiar with and it'd have been great, yet instead he goes with the generic AI sloppa style. Come the fuck on.

>>11363879
>Have to agree to disagree here, one of the best things about genderbender is that you get the female body without having to deal with the female mind. The problem with women is their brain, gender bender solves the problem

I guess it really depends on the TG but if taken at face value, the man would probably start thinking like a woman in a couple days if not sooner because the hormones the body makes would now be that of a woman which impacts the brain and body. An easy example is anxiety. Testosterone lowers anxiety while estrogen increases it. Having a vagina that no longer produces much testosterone, but produces more estrogen would cause the mind to feel more anxiety. Another interesting aside is that Testosterone increases hip bone density while also making a person more prone to respiratory illness. So men are less likely to break a hip as they age but more likely to die of a bad cold or respiratory disease.

As another aside, I wish one of the many tg rpgmaker games would build an anxiety system into the game where choices disapear as anxiety becomes too great and the player has to find solutions to manage it. Fun unspoken fact about women, women will manage relationships to lower anxiety. If you have ever wondered why they might keep so many male friends, invest in bad female relationships, invest lots of brain power in social rank, its all an effort to lower anxiety. Social connections and approval make them feel safe.

>>11363915
>How do you think that would manifest, realistically? Say they tried to consciously fight their female hormones and new brain pathways in one scenario, and the subconsciously let the changes begin to slip in, in another... What changes do you think would actually be likely to manifest?

Probably depends on the intelligence of the person.

Someone self aware would wonder why their feelings change. "Wowa, why did that creep me out? Oh, why does that person smell bad now? Why does Johnny make me feel secure? And why does that make my stomach feel funny?"

For a dumb person they would probably project onto the world and assume the world changed along with them and that outside forces are causing the new sensations.

>>11363919
>maybe even unconsciously seek out being seen as attractive and feminine

I'm not sure if that would be how they would see it.

My guess is that being ostracized would feel them with panic and they would first befriend men. But some of those men would try to get lucky which would cause even more panic. They would befriend women begrudgingly but they would not fit in because their boy behavior and clothes. Theh would want to appear more feminine in an effort to be socially accepted by their new female friends.

This is a peocess that repeats every year as tomboys develop tits and hormones

>>11363798
>Care to post just that ending, then?

I can post the last two clothed pages. The boy is so skinny, his age is unclear, despite it being their senior year and the futa clearly having completed puberty. The nude pages aren't worth a ban to me. A mods not going to read the whole thing to determine they are legal adults on the final page.

>>11363671
>AM I BEING TOO AUTSITIC? AM I REMOVING THE MAGIC IF I GIVE A FULL EXPLANATION? Is this a "Midclorians" moment? Giving explanations for these things messes up with the suspension of disbelief?

Its fine. People will be seeking this out for kink or to live vicariously through the world. If it helps to get them engaged, its fine.

I will say one thing however, less tends be more and show is better than tell.

Showing feels more respectful to people than telling. Part of the decline in progressive thought is the tendency for autistic women to be more verbal or written with thoughts rather than visual. This has had the unintended consequence of more and more progressive ideas in fiction to be delivered with speech, instead of visuals, making the viewer feel scolded, instead of educated. A good example might be a character being mistreated for their race. It would be better to show someone mistreating them than to write a paragraph of dialog.

Anyway, it would be better to draw images of these ideas and use only a little dialog to explain them. So if you were communicating the various ways the incubus caused sexy times to harvest love energy, just show the harem, show the courtly love.

If you need a page of dialog for world building, put it at the back

Masturbating to a story, then feeling guilty because in post nut clarity you realize that the narrative and character interaction are all garbage.

>>11363671
Having an autistic backstory is fine, but the reader really doesn't need all of that. Heck, for my flapping purposes that would really just get in the way. If you want to include it, drop bits and pieces of lore throughout several chapters or pieces and maybe have one section that necessitates meaningfully bringing those bread crumbs together, like some schizo with a cork board and a bunch of red string tying everything together as he's turned into a girl.

>>11364028
The weird thing about this is that the feminized male character still has a dick, he got pregnant in a womb that spontaneously formed in his ass. The artist did another comic that is the exact same scenario.

>>11363877
>>11363921
The tinfoil thing is because its funny, plus people who would wear it would get dismissed.
There are other ways for one to retain his memmories - not all transformations affect it, and there are ways of just triggering part of the curse.

>>11363732
>>11364034
>>11364120
I understand, yeah, I willl kee in mnd to not lore/exposition dump. Probably going to leave a bunch of the details as part of an "extra page" or something like that, and just focus on what is ertinent to the story.

>>11363842
>Especially for the thing where they're drawn to each others, you need to have some coincidence feeling to it too otherwise it might feel weird
It's not too over the top where they are constantly interacting...they might not even know each other. It's more like "they go to the same university" or like the Hollywood example - where bunches of hot girls tend to congragate into certain professions/places. In part is because the mstical energy attracts itself like a magnet, but also most TGed characters are super hot means that they tend to gravitate towards these places.

>>11364201
>The weird thing about this is that the feminized male character still has a dick, he got pregnant in a womb that spontaneously formed in his ass. The artist did another comic that is the exact same scenario.

I dont think we know if she still has a dick on that last page. The artist is rather mysterious about it.

All I know is that futa fucked and willed her boyfriend into essentially having a working cloaca.

Now, if the cock became a pussy, or the ass womb shifted to the pussy, we dont know.

But from the title, it seems like she fucked him so hard and so much, his ass became a working cloaca

>>11363669
So you are crwating a setting where technically all TG scenarion can and have happened? Like a shared universe between every TG henrai ever made?

>>11363732
>>11363671
Think in how the Cthulhu mythos does it. Is a shated universe but each charscter just has a fraction of the knowledge.

>>11364020
>the man would probably start thinking like a woman in a couple days if not sooner because the hormones the body makes would now be that of a woman which impacts the brain and body
For individual things like aggression and anxiety, sure, but I can't buy hormones being that pivotal in what makes a mind "female" or "male". Modern science is already capable of pumping men full of estrogen, but that doesn't mean they'll start behaving like the characters in TG stories and end up liking boys.

Admittedly there is some personal bias in the mix though. The idea of how we think and feel isbeing merely some mutable consequence of brain chemicals is pretty scary

>>11363879
Nah, one of the hottest parts about TG is "Heh, I'll never start thinking like a women" followed by a slow degradation into a female mindset, complete with getting overemotional about stupid shit

>>11364297
>TSF victim 1 year out talking smugly how she hasn't gotten even the slightest bit feminine while her face covered in make-up that seems like it was done with years of experience looks at the nail polish on her fingers in the girliest way possible

>>11364232
>The idea of how we think and feel isbeing merely some mutable consequence of brain chemicals is pretty scary
The truth is scary, but we musn't look away. Take the materialism pill and accept we're an arrangement of baryons with anxiety.

Materialism cannot explain the existence of discrete, subjective points of view. The world is vanishingly close to materialistic, but the soul nevertheless exists.

>>11364374
Sounds like dualism cope to me but ok.

>>11364232
>For individual things like aggression and anxiety, sure, but I can't buy hormones being that pivotal in what makes a mind "female" or "male". Modern science is already capable of pumping men full of estrogen, but that doesn't mean they'll start behaving like the characters in TG stories and end up liking boys.

Its a big part of it. There are other things but its hard to say what behavior is from hormones and what of them is from having a brain develop and grow under those hormones. There is also natural human variance.

Women tend to have less variance when it comes to mental performance. More women are average. The intelligence bell curve for men is wider. More men are idiots and more men are really smart. Both could be birth defects or a wider variance in gene expression because of how pathetic the Y chromosome is when compare to the X chromosome. Women also have 2 Xs so they have two sets of blue prints to build any one body part, making it harder for women to be born with birth defects.

>>11364414
Cont

Women also have a different sexual response than men. The vagina fills with blood slower than a cock so it takes longer for them to get turned on. Some of their sexual nerve endings are on the inside so they get this desire to have them stretched or rubbed or filled. There are also more nerve endings in the clit than the entire penis, so touching it will be more intense than a cock.

Then there is the issue of sexual concordance. Men have a sexual concordsnce of over 50%. This means that their brain and cock are almost always on the same page. If you think about sex, you get hard. If you get hard, you think about sex. Only something like 16 to 18 % of women are like this. And a whopping 34% of women have no sexual concordance. The last time I looked at ir, it was unknown if this was hormones or the vagina in that 34% physically not being connected to the brain in the people with no sexual concordance. I would lean towards it being hormones as women report higher sex drives on T.

>>11364214
The second part shows that feminized men do retain their penises in this setting

>>11363083 (OP)
Speaking of CYOA's in the last thread
I remember someone posted one awhile back that was you died and went to maid heaven for all eternity and you got punished if you picked any relief options.
Anyone know what I'm walking about?

>>11364463
I know the one, that one was delvish. You basically gets tortured anyway even if you don't pick a relief.

The CYOA in the end even spells for you, its not a "choose the girl you become" its a "you are be forced how to choose how your master will destroy you and reshape you into the girl he wants".

>>11364469
Nta but as much as I do not want to turn thread into CYOA dumps, that one got me interested.
Its would be nice to have something relatively smartly made like maid one, but also with actual well-done different outcome branches.
Pokemon one was.. well, a bit too pokemon, and maid one was.. yeah.

>>11364462
>They keep their dicks
Ruined

>>11364333
He keeps insisting he's still a man, and hates all that useless girly crap (obviously he only goes clothes shopping to not arouse suspicion). All that bragging and useless denial annoys his male friend so much that he shuts him up by sweeping her off her feet all romantic-style. It's hard for her to deny she's a girl now, after her voice went up a measurable three octaves while she acted like a flustered little romance novel protagonist. There's no coming back from that level of femininity.

>>11364462
1. That is a separate story.
2. Its about to vanish

>>11364373
>*turns you into a submissive kitsune girl (but only in spirit)*
Get dunked on nerd

>>11364463
>I remember someone posted one awhile back that was you died and went to maid heaven for all eternity and you got punished if you picked any relief options.
This?
https://imgchest.com/p/lqye3m9x4dn

>>11364463
>>11364592

https://infaera.neocities.org/

This site has tons of these CYOA. Lots of good ones here

I wish there were more gender benders where the boy is someone really androgynous and as such apart from the boobs and vagina doesn't really change and tries to hide the transformation

I think it'd be a fun concept if a really androgynous boy got genderbent and barely looked any different, even going as far as to barely have A-cup boobs as a girl, with the one exception of having an absolutely huge butt. So everyone just thinks they got fat or are stuffing their pants or something.

In fact, they could even insist that they turned into a girl to try to explain the ass, but people only question this further going "So where are your boobs, then?" and they really have no recourse here outside of dropping their pants (which they're too embarrassed to do).

>>11364473
Also nta if you want a decent one where you can shape the outcome look for "Your Proper Place". Made by the same guy but not as sadistic.

I didn't get in on the old thread so I just want to say:

Thank you "generic fantasy comic with cursed king" artist, you're a legend. What you've got cooking looks god-tier, even just the work in progress art.
If I may insert my personal preference request: do a femdom yuri scene with his wife, whoever domms who, and at whichever stage of transformation POST GENITAL TF.

Once again, godam ty. The attention to detail on your tf process is the gold standard, plus I just like your art style and the characters are hot.

>130919463
Love this, who is the author?

>>11364020
How much of your mind is your body is an intersting topic, the neurons create conections that become more solid as they get used more, but an asortment of thing s also change the brain chemistry, from hormones to the bacteria living on your gut.

>>11364462
>>11364028
There is something uncanny about the way this guy draws preagnancy. It loos more like those photos of african children full of worms.

>>11364297
>I want somebody who looks like a woman and behaves like a woman
I have great news for you my guy because those already exist: They're called women.

>>11364813
eww. gay

>>11364813
The fun part though is watching the struggle as a masculine man slowly loses his male persona and is forced to become a feminine girl to adapt to the circumstances of their new life. Too much TG stuff just jumps into the new girl fucking her best friend 5 minutes after she transforms but it's so much better when there is a slow payoff and a journey to get there

>>11364823
everyone knows that if you get ka-girled you are obligated to fuck your best friend

>>11363818
check the previous thread again

>>11364779
>There is something uncanny about the way this guy draws preagnancy. It loos more like those photos of african children full of worms

The womb is arguably some how inside the bowels. So maybe.

I think the artist wanted it to be unsettling and mysterious. The futa fucks her boyfriend into the ass until his body submits and starts to become more feminine and growing a womb and viable pregnancy.

They probably wanted it to look odd

>>11364756
>How much of your mind is your body is an intersting topic, the neurons create conections that become more solid as they get used more, but an asortment of thing s also change the brain chemistry, from hormones to the bacteria living on your gut

Yes. Its a shame more effort hasnt been made to document the impact of hormones on people transitioning.

Like just for human health, it ks fascinating. Test makes people less likely to die of a broken hip. Estrogen makes you less likely to die from a respiratory illness.

You'd think we would study this shit

I'm looking for a webm of an actual anime. It's in a fantasy setting.
3 characters are in a dungeon and drink a potion to turn female. The main guy is blond and wears a white T-Shirt. I don't remember more... Anyone know about it or where I might find it?

>>11364952
Don't have the webm, but that sounds like Ishuzoku Reviewers

>>11364948
Ultimately I think drug treatments are probably the best treatment for helping people with extreme gender dysphoria. I don't really think the current philosophy of surgical manipulation is really the best solution. I am sympathetic to transgender individuals but I think treating the problem as a mental issue would be extremely helpful in actually dealing with it. Brain chemistry is such a significant topic when it comes to dealing with stuff like this like this. Maybe the day will come when we can find a way for men to become women in a practical manner buy until then we should try to find a better solution

>>11364971
This is great and all but this is not really the place for it

>>11364971
Sadly this. If we had X-change pills, I'd say anyone with gender dysphoria should go for it and just solve the problem however they want, but our current level of sexual reassignment tech just isn't ethical to offer people as if it was a real solution to the problem.

>>11364948
People transitioning in real life have soured me a bit on TSF. I'm aware of how retarded it is to mistake real life for hentai logic, but it's disillusioning nonetheless learning that guys who get hopped up on female hormones just end up acting like...well, guys. They're still interested in autistic male hobbies (vidya, anime, etc), and still attracted to women most of the time.

Sure there is a vast difference between changing the brain chemicals vs changing the body and brain structure wholesale, but it is disappointing to not see anything like >>11363919 or picrel

>>11365041
>Anon discovers what TSF yuritards been saying for years is actually true
I am so sorry that years of 4chan broscience and hentai actually convinced you that turning a man into a woman would ever make them like dick like some sort of mind control device. The brain is a self-reinforcing biological machine -- changing its environment is not equal to re-developing it in that same environment. However, at least now you can move onto just accepting that your true fetish is TS + Mind Control and call it a day.

>>11365041
Source of that?

>>11365041
>still attracted to women
Sometimes they do, sometimes theh donr

>>11365058
This is apropos of nothing, but being into tsf yuri sucks so much ass. /u/ despise tsf (despite being mostly closet cases themselves), while people solely into tsf usually view the tsf'd victim losing to cock as the while point of the fetish, with submitting to a dominant girl seen as tranny wish fulfillment. Shit sux

>>11363502
>>11363504
>>11363504
The anime would have been more interesting if there was a guy love interest aswell (and who isn't an idiot like Kuno for example) and the mc was closet bi but blames it on the curse for giving him "weird feelings" or something. But this was made in the late 80's, early 90's if i remember correctly so that was obviously a no go. If it was made later it might have had something like that.
What's the point of a harem anime with a Genderswapping MC if the harem isn't if not equal atleast have both genders represented.

>>11365112
Anon, Rumiko Takahashi is probably a lesbian. Ramna grew out of a martial arts woman that presented as male in space invader lum.

Ranma isnt going to date men because she doesnt want to date men. She wants to be a man or a Manish lesbian and date women.

She never intended to write somethinf transwomen mtf would identify with. It was always her self insert finding a way to date women.

Yes, japan is so oppressed that she thought this was all easier than just having a woman turn into a man to date women or just having a manga about a lesbian.

>>11363919
Considering Ranma flips from guy to chick multiple times a day and magically all the hormones change to the appropriate level for the gender he/she is at the time. His/Her brain should be going haywire just from the hormones sending different signals and flipping in % all the time. They should have mood swings and other hormone related mental problems at the very least. If it wasn't a gag manga it would be terrifying psychologicaly. He should have screws loose.

>>11365124
yeah what if ranma went crazy from all the hormones and shot up a school? New prompt

>>11365116
>Rumiko Takahashi is probably a lesbian
Wasn't she married or something?

>japan is so oppressed that she thought this was all easier than just having a woman turn into a man to date women or just having a manga about a lesbian.

So it's literally fake and gay got it.

>>11365127
Honestly i would probably read that.

>>11365075
This touches on something I feel not enough people give its due, but this is (in part) the difference between "fundamental heterosexuality" and "incidental heterosexuality." That is, it's the difference between, "I'm a man, and I'm straight, therefore I like women," and "I like women, and I'm a man, therefore I'm straight."

There's a categorical issue that doesn't really matter in our genderbending-less world, but would suddenly start mattering very much so if it were possible. You would not believe, back in the day when I was thoroughly enthused with asking random people on Omegle "what would you do if you woke up as the opposite sex," how many supposedly straight people immediately and without-issue said "well I guess I'd go hop on a cock/fuck a girl lol" as if it were simply the natural conclusion to that scenario, because the primary assumption is "that they're straight" above all else. A lot of normalfags think this way, because they don't really see an issue with it. That said, I won't really oversell the phenomenon (it was probably about half-and-half).

You and I probably fit into the second camp. We like women, and because we're men, that makes us straight. However, the natural conclusion is that if we were women, we'd be carpet-munching turbo-dykes. In other words, the heterosexuality is entirely incidental, rather than fundamental. If only a single switch were flipped, yuri would be possible.

This is the schism that drives so much discourse in this very thread, and both it and other related schisms are what drive so much vitriol about it over on /u/. For my part, I think if yuri supremacy were to ever be achieved, you're going to have to choose what to do with the men anyway, and "permanently turning them into women" sure seems like a pretty decisive, strong, and yet gentle answer to the question as befits cute girls to go with.

>>11365131
>Wasn't she married or something?

Have you tried googling it?

>>11365169
Honestly, although I would definitely be jumping right into the yuri lifestyle with my partner if I ever were to become a girl without even a second thought, part of me feels like if I were born a girl, I'd probably be end up becoming a fujoshi. A horrifying thought.

>>11365180
>becoming a fujoshi

Probably. Writing horrible ship yoie fan fiction

>>11365169
>"fundamental heterosexuality" and "incidental heterosexuality."
Never seen it put in those terms before, but I can't help but agree. I wonder if the normalfags responding to that prompt were really considering the ramifications or just blurting out what would "make sense" to something that's incomprehensible to them. I ask because, I just can't imagine a reality where I *wouldn't* be attracted to women, regardless of whether I'm female or male, so it's difficult for me to even fathom how anyone supposedly straight could confidently say, "I'd just suck dicks/pussy I guess lol!" Just so alien a mindset to me, I can't help but think they're not really thinking it through.

>>11365169
Honestly, I'd probably be straight because frankly, I'm just into penetrative sex, regardless of what side I am on.

>>11364592
>https://imgchest.com/p/lqye3m9x4dn
Yeah that's the one

>>11365193
The fact that you and >>11365194 are basically exactly representative of the dichotomy that I'm talking about (and posted one-after-another) is the proof that this is very much real. It's as he says -- they just value "the straight experience" (of which the culmination is penetrative, PIV sex) and being part of that "dance," basically. For them, I assume that men and women are like the chocolate and peanut butter of a peanut butter cup, and that the "goal" is the combination of the two, so swapping from one side to the other naturally just means you seek out the other half that you now lack.

But you and I are chocolate lovers stuck as peanut butter (or vice versa -- you get the idea).

>>11365206
Heh, that's some synchronicity. So weird. Like you state, it's clearly tied to penetrative sex, something I can take or leave, really. I just want more girls, and tsf makes more girls, which makes it appeal to me about as much as yuri does, exactly as much in fact. I've probably posted enough on this though; this is a tsf thread first, and I don't want to step on any toes. That said, yuri WILL conquer the earth.

>>11365206
I am definitely someone with that straight kind of mentality. I just can't imagine being a girl and still bring interested in girls. Interacting with dicks to me is just a fundamental part of the female experience as it really highlights the absence of having one. I'd rather just keep my penis and stay a man if I were sleeping with women

>>11363152
Agreed

>>11365058
Damn, you mean to say women aren't creatures whose higher order brain functions get replaced by pure lust the minute they see a fat cock?

>However, at least now you can move onto just accepting that your true fetish is TS + Mind Control and call it a day
Stories where the victim is instantly turned into a girly bimbo with a reality-altering app or something equally insipid doesn't really do it for me. Maybe it's missing the slow burn. Maybe it's the "natural" aspect of it, where the new girl finds herself becoming more fem as a consequence of biology, not just some external drug/magic/hypnosis

>>11365067
Delta-TSF - A Normal Boy Turns Into A Girl

>>11364639
Sauce or translation?

If a man was transformed into a woman, she'd be hyper-vigilant about her own sexual reactions, which would cause her to pay an inordinate amount of attention to the men around her that she'd be concerned about becoming attracted to. That fixation would heighten any potential attraction that might be there, which would make it more likely that she'd lose to cock.
(A transformed guy fucking girls is also good, though.)

>>11365283
Literally in the filename
https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/130919463
guy turns into no-ja loli (speech forced) and tries to convince his friend who he is

>>11365295
>implying filenames are displayed on mobile

Not everyone is gonna be clicking on the file size and type text to get the name as a pop up, friend.

>>11364962
that's it. Thank you!

>>11365240
>Interacting with dicks to me is just a fundamental part of the female experience as it really highlights the absence of having one

I have a feeling its the differnece between being neruotypical and autistic or autistic agacent.

Normal humans are pretty much mimics. They learn by copying and most of them dont put a lot of thought into what they do. They tend to beleive in archetypes constructed by an assortment of experiences. They tend to think in reverse and will mold their inner narrative to match preconceived notions of archetypes.

An example is getting promoted at work. An average normal person assumes that the promoted now knows everything the position demands. They have the title, they most know. Its a kind of magical thinking where titles can transform people like sailor moon.

An autistic person makes no such assumption. They hope that people learn the skills necessary for positions and then get rhe position. But by adulthood they have figured out there is no connection between position and knowldge or skills.

In short, a normal person thinks that people just are what they are labeled. An autistic person knows that is not the case via a long series of bad experiences wirh other humans

>>11365193
I wonder if mob mentality and "fitting into you given role" social presure has something to do with it. There is also the idea of "going native" and how people can just rewire their brain to adapt to a different culture.

>>11365393
>There is also the idea of "going native" and how people can just rewire their brain to adapt to a different culture.

Hard to say. A lot of culture is a construct. How much of going native is just expressing the same desires using the constructs allowed?

There is also pavlov's dogging something. Say a man just became a beutiful lovely woman in a different society. He probably would match that society's expectations of gender if only because there were constant rewards to do so. Might even sleep with men if thr sensation of being ficked felt good enough.

There are gay men and women across time that ha e done these very things. They were attractive and rewarded for playing the part of straight. I have no doubt there were gay men that really enjoyed being the boss at work, doing various manly hobbies, enjoyed the company of his wife and the benefits of being married but didn't get what all the hub bub was about pretty girls. Double so if he had poor sexual concordance and was slow to excite sexually.

>>11365371
Honestly the two separations would make for an interesting concept where it's done to an almost extreme degree.
>MC on a trip in Japan with his friends
>Suddenly inexplicably shifts into a Japanese school girl
>She panic and tells friends in broken English that it's still him
>All of them shrug and tell her "Well, you were him, but now you're not" and just head out as he gets grabbed and dragged into the boarding school by the disciplinary students
>Both governments already ahead of the game and shifts her citizenship to Japanese with almost no hesitation despite this never happening before
>The school gives her a room and hands her a school uniform and treat her like she's an exchange student while her cries about this not making sense fall on deaf ears
>Is forced to just live out her life like this despite all proof and existence of her transforming is there, but just ignored since "that's just how it is"

>>11365058
anyway i'm imagining anon casually drinking the fluid that turns you into Chloe and not noticing that she is in fact becoming Chloe from Kaleid Prisma. Hopefully she won't be so careless next time and won't end up drinking the big breasts water next.

>>11365567
She ever-so-deftly avoids the big-breasts water, going "hah!" while picking up the bottle directly next to it and taking several long gulps of unbeknownst-to-her butt-expansion water.

>>11365569
At least it's not the psuedo preggo water. Or kickstarts your milk water. or any other fetish flavored water

Anyone know where I can read Akuyaku Reijou, Ore it doesn't have any chapters uploaded on comick and it isn't on bato either
As a side-note, why doesn't it have the genderswap tag on mangadex anymore

>>11365655
I don't know about the english version but the raw chapters are free on comic walker and niconico

Whats the story on this?

This could be a good idea. Lot of similarities between a selfish bratty boy and a villainess

>>11365786
It's Isekai. It's probably brought up a few lines in the opening then immediately dropped for typical bullshit. The fact that it's Villanous Isekai #25289 should tell you all you need to know.

Alright what's your opinion on the feminization tag when it's used on a gender bender hentai/doujin.
Personally, I avoid gender bender works that get tagged with it since it's a bit too much like sissification wish fulfillment like something milda7 used to make

>>11365839
my biggest gripe about this fetish is the sheer volume of crossdressing and sissification that gets tagged as gender bender. especially when sites and shit already have a crossdressing tag. fuck that shit. that shit is only hot when it's like a zulu thing and they instantly turn into a girl who that clothes belongs to.

>>11365839
>>11365870
I think the creation of the gender morph Tag was ablessing. This way I can avoid all the crossdress, skinsuit and body swap shit

>>11365978
I just wish it were easier to find bodysuit stuff that wasn't murder adjacent. I don't mind it when no one is getting turned into a bag of wrapping paper.

>>11365870
>sissification

Unfortunately there is no shortage of people with a humiliation kink and see dressing or looking like a woman as the ultimate type of embarrassment.

Second only to people who see genderbending as a form of sub/dom and see women as cross dressers as the ultimate subs.

Its usually with people post 55. No idea why its so common with olds

I guess if we are talking about olds, I can mention the third type of gender bending they like, bimbo/slutification.

another TS pornhwa

>>11365978
The only way I ever am able to stomach skinsuit stuff is I have to imagine after they put on the skin, they themselves inside unknowingly morph into the girl's internals. Otherwise I struggle to understand how the hell penetration works

>>11366227
It kind of has to be that or their body slipping into some kind of quasi hammer space, wouldn't make sense for them to be able to become someone smaller otherwise. Let's just ignore those cases where they get a boner inside of the suit and it bulges out.

Who came up with skinsuits? Did someone really watch buffalo bill and really think that was a hot idea?

>>11364609
Any recommendations? I've been reading a few and only slop so far.

>>11366278
Ask in the CYOA thread on /trash/ rather than relying on a Reddit interactive list:
>>>/trash/77458958

The hot new thing at the moment is a one about sacrificing masculinity for a cool mech by an author named Tim. He's probably the best for TSF CYOAs but BTGanon (if you are a masochist) and Rosanon (if you like yuri and huge tits) are good too.

>>11366271
its TGTF you can reverse pretty easily. unless we get into cartoon physics where someone steals your zipper

>>11366300
I guess I kind of see the appeal, mostly for your second point where the person has the mentality of "lol I can just take off the skin and be back to normal" and it ends up not actually working out that way

>>11366333
It's a pretty decent tool for lighthearted fun and revenge porn alike.

In my never ending quest to find a way to stretch a tsf narrative out beyond just the transformation, I started thinking about horror tropes. I was stuck on, guy gets gender-bent, and there's zombies, for an embarrassing amount of time before I recalled pic related. Keep the zombies, they spread the virus, but every once in a while when they bite someone, instead of a zombie, the victim becomes a horror archetype. One guy gets turned into a hulking mute with a hocky mask and an oedipal complex, another grows freakishly tall and faceless and gains a penchant for messing with peoples' electronics, you get the idea.

So basically, one guy gets bit and gets the "final girl" archetype, basically immortal so long as she stays virginal (probably some loopholes around this), so she's the token good infected, but has no actual abilities other than conditional immortality. Is this a good idea to write about? Figure it could be a monster of the week style thing, but I could lean it more camp or psychological depending on what said monster of the week is. She probably gets a rotating cast of new characters each chapter, all trying to survive the zombie apocalypse before fucking Freddy Kreuger or Chucky, or even one of those bubbleheaded nurses from Silent Hill pops up when someone gets bit and the fun begins. What do you all think? Any ideas for what the overarching plot should be? I only have the basic premise.

>>11366546
Id read that Manga, yeah.

Could have some funny gags about refusing to have sex with the new characters that want to smash

>>11366546
Sure. Why not. Easy end of the series is someone gets bit then gets the ultimate horror trope: reality isn't real, it is just someones dream.

>>11366546
It seems kind of weird for the virus to turn the MC into a non-monster horror archetype if everyone else becomes either a monster or regular zombie, unless the plan is to have side characters get infected and turn into different archetypes like a scientist gets bit and turns into a dumb jock. Otherwise, you could go with something like the story starting with an experimental cure that ends up turning people into horror archetypes but for one reason or another the compound that was developing the cure gets overrun and for obvious reasons the "final girl" is the only one that makes it out. Either way it's at least a good setup for monster of the week type plots to keep the story moving if developing the main plot ever hits any snags.

>>11366588
Yeah, I toyed with the idea of expanding the archetypes beyond just monsters, maybe a leader that always acts before he thinks, a dumb jock like you mentioned, a slut, a nerd, a creepy occultist guy, etc. Only problem I found is that there's way more varieties of monsters out there than stock slasher movie victims. Maybe I could branch out and have some people turn into action hero types a la Ash Williams or Leon S. Kennedy, one-liner spouting ass-kicking types for variety. I dunno. I like your idea of this "cure" coming from the lab, since someone who's an archetype can no longer be infected by a zombie. Maybe there are multiple "Final Girls" out there each matching a corresponding monster? We don't have to always follow just once character, and it may not be obvious who is the final girl or who is the monster. Dunno yet, still want to keep tsf a major focus though.

>>11366546
>Is this a good idea to write about?
I would switch the main catalyst for transformation to something other than zombie bites, with zombies being a likely outcome of that catalyst and their bites only able to create other zombies.
As an example, somebody invents a Horror Movie Trope Gun. You get shot with it and you turn into a random thing from a horror movie, which tends to be a zombie because there have been millions of zombies shown on screen. A few lucky people get something better from the random transformation. (Just replace Horror Movie Trope Gun with something that doesn't sound stupid.)

>>11363152
If I had a nickel for every story universe where losing to futa cock turned you into a pregnant bitch...

>>11366681
A womb full of futa babies is the ideal ending

Can we all just admit that narratives centered around TSF and gender swapping are mostly pretty ass and it's much better when you have it in a story that isn't centered around TSF and just have it appear in it. Like in one piece when this happened. Then you have that character do normal story things + they have to deal with being a sexy chick now. The TSF component only works in conjunction to other stories. I want battle shonen where characters get TG'd but just stay as hot chicks.

>>11366597
>Maybe I could branch out and have some people turn into action hero types a la Ash Williams or Leon S. Kennedy, one-liner spouting ass-kicking types for variety.
I'd say that's a good angle besides just the horror female and monster archetypes. Also spunds like a way for other tags like FtM or AP/AR to get used naturally.
>Maybe there are multiple "Final Girls" out there each matching a corresponding monster?
I'd say that's a smart way to keep the concept going. A zombie bite turns someone into a horror monster in one place, then somewhere else another person gets bitten and turned into the final girl. You can go from there, with the hero and the other different horror character archetypes popping up over the story in a lot of different ways.

>>11366739
>when you have it in a story that isn't centered around TSF and just have it appear in it.

Yeah that was pretty much Ranma 1/2 and it worked well there. Female Ranma was there for fanservice but the plots were rarely focused around the genderswapping. It was just something used for hijinks and comedy

does anyone has the TF TG picture where a man transforms in to a Chinese female fighter pilot

I'm trying to find a Nico Robin Tg/milfication that Meattweapon did on deviantart around the start of the year. They deleted all their art and now i cant find it

>>11366860
Are you sure you aren't just overfocusing on the concept and fanart/porn rather than the actual execution?
I remember finding out about Ranma due to the GB thing and being sorely disappointed over how little that played into the actual story

>>11367170
Kampfer solidified my interest in tg, which got me into Xchange. Alternative pretty much solidified it as a lifetime fetish, wish they'd translated the sequel.
Now I have tfgamesite favorited.

>>11366552
Honestly that would work great as a running story. A bunch of people are turned into stereotypical 80s horror girls and have to survive a series of stereotypical 80 horror movies. One of them is the stereotypical slutty character, and is immortal as long as she never has sex. So she has to avoid a bunch of increasingly ridiculous and contrived scenarios to have sex in. Not sure if the zombie story would work though.

>>11366597
If you have Leon Kennedy you also have to have Ashley. She spends the whole story being utterly fucking useless but always being saved at the last second.

>>11366739
>Can we all just admit that narratives centered around TSF and gender swapping are mostly pretty ass and it's much better when you have it in a story that isn't centered around TSF and just have it appear in it. Like in one piece when this happened. Then you have that character do normal story things + they have to deal with being a sexy chick now. The TSF component only works in conjunction to other stories. I want battle shonen where characters get TG'd but just stay as hot chicks.

It doesn't suck. Its just that a lot of hentai artists usually add a lot of kinks in to increase readership and it just kind of ends up a mess. The worst offenders are the ones who barely have a single page for the transformation and jump into "wowy wow wow, cock on the train is the best" or "Wowowo oh oh , being raped by a bunch of old men is just the best."

I can't really think of a single artist that dug deep into the idea as a narrative. Its doable. But it would require a lot of research.

Like you could have several chapaters of a body builder that became a woman by magic, figuring out how to be a body builder as a woman. Researching the difference on how women get in shape and dealing with the loss of upper body strength. Add in a few new relationships with people at the gym and you could drag that out for a while. Could also do it about a knight or martial artist.

it is usally better though if the artist writes what they know, so for a lot of artist, it probably would be better if they found something else for the character to focus on since most haven't read much about the differences in male and female behavior.

>>11367170
>I remember finding out about Ranma due to the GB thing and being sorely disappointed over how little that played into the actual story

I think it played out the way Rumiko wanted it to. She was playing with the idea of a woman becoming a man at the end of Lum. Ramna was an extension of that. Ramna is essentially a woman becoming a man and living as a man.

She's always been puzzled by how many mtf like the character as she wasn't thinking about them when she made the manga. She was thinking of Ryuunosuke Fujinami

>>11367487
To be fair, kinks do make it better if done well. No point in being turned into a girl if you don't get tied up at least once. And if you're in the mood for bad ends, petrified.

But I think the issue is that this is a hentai board. Everything here is going to be about sex and kink. All the most compelling stories where TGTF is a central theme come from random webcomic artists who came out as trans halfway through the run.

>>11367503
>the most compelling stories
>artists who came out as trans
wtf are you talking about? troons can't be good TSF authors.

>>11366681
every setting would be improved if all the guy characters got turned into girls and bred by futas

The problem with troons is they eventually make everything autobiographical and true to life.

Which isnt really the same audience. Lbgt's and academics read that shit. I want to read fantasy or scifi and smut. I want to read about a chick that used to be a dude go buy ixe cream. I dont want to read about someone suffering internally because they gor misgendered buying ice cream

Its kind of like how I want to read about giant robots and not bubba getting back pain driving a forklift

>>11367581
What if bubba got backpain and needs a forklift to move around, on account of having breasts that constitute 2/3rds of his mass?

>>11367503
I don't think trans people make for good TSF writers, because the struggles that come from being trans are very different from those that come from being turned into a girl
One is an accomplishment of something you've wanted, the other is a transformation and a struggle, it's just too different of a pov for things to work, especially since most trans author either write it as a positive thing or the elements of struggle won't come from the character themselves against their body but from society or people around them
meanwhile gender bender is effectively the very opposite of what trans fiction is since it's literally someone becoming dysphoric, and I honestly think it's a topic most of them can't write since it's something inherently alien from their own lived experience

>>11367638
Why not write it as a consensual thing

>>11367656
Because then that is the most boring and pointless niche wish fulfilment plot, and not what makes genderbending fun to others at all?

>>11367638
>meanwhile gender bender is effectively the very opposite of what trans fiction is since it's literally someone becoming dysphoric, and I honestly think it's a topic most of them can't write since it's something inherently alien from their own lived experience

Yes, its different in many ways
>Usually instant perfect change, including bones, muscles and new reproductive organs vs a slow imperfect change.
>Mc rarely wants the change. Its usually a surprise for the sake of drama. Vs trans person who wants the change.
>Mc starts out dysphoric about change vs starting out disphoric about birth gender
>process of change. Magic, magic level science vs pills and surgery

Now, dont get me wrong, there are some good stories and smut to make with swapping this stuff up, but no one is doing it.

Like what if some dude seeks out the gender bending? Wouldnt that be nice? Theh look for rhe change, do it, and then are happy about it. You watch them explore life as a beutiful woman. Could be an interesting commentary are halo effect and comfy.

Or a trans person that gets the magical change and theh compare and contrast the differences between hrt and the magic change.

A hentair where a girlfriend slips her boyfriend hrt and it starts to change him and he becomes a woman over time.

Anyway, yeah, genderbending is usually the opposite of the trans experience. Its usually a lot of suffering that someone who wants to read about cute boys becoming hot women, doesnt want to read.

>Genderbent man is till supremely confident post-tg
>Talks shit even while she's ravishing a dude

>>11367638
Being trans does not mean all your work has to be faggy autobiographic wish-fulfillment, in the same way being an unloved loser does not mean you'll only ever produce superficial power fantasies
The closeted ones especially usually produce and consume the forced-fem flavor of TSF in order to alleviate the guilt of actively wanting it

>>11367845
>The closeted ones especially usually produce and consume the forced-fem flavor of TSF in order to alleviate the guilt of actively wanting it

The levels of progression are

>reading kink gender bender as wish fulfillment
>watch trans porn. Probably start keeping up with some of the prettier stars
>Google how to transition
>cycle between wish fulfillment hentai, porn and reading about transitioning

>make a choice between either digging deeper into wish fulfillment kink or transition
>if they digger deeper into kink they might get into furry gender bender comics, more extreme gender bending hentai with additional extreme kinks . Spend enter weekends gooning


>or transition. Go down that path for a year or so. Become disenfranchised with kink and porn. Stsrt writing text or a web comic about transitioning. Mostly a series of small sufferings.

Fr

>>11367854
>Mostly a series of small sufferings.

If its not a series of small sufferings, its probably super positive and really gay. They are probably on anti depressants and living with 2 gay guys irl

>>11365075
I'm still sad this series got axed

>>11365193
I love how yuri TSF fans just can't understand that this is the hottest part of the fetish for me. The fact that you can't even imagine a world where you don't love women and pussy, then being thrust into a world where you do.
You would unironically make an amazing hetero TSF material for me.

>No no no I like girls, I CAN'T find him handsome. What's happening to me???

>>11367949
>anon thrusts the tsf yuri lover into his hetero tsf world
>watches with bated breath and lotioned hands
>observes the heroine being broached by guys, expecting them to melt under the weight of their new instincts
>they just look horribly sad and start crying
>the boys try to comfort her
>"get away from me!!!"
>later, in the girl's locker room
>the other girls think she's a weirdo because she just looks really sad the entire time
>rinse and repeat for like 3 months
>she just looks more despondent and bitter every single day
>"wait no no you're supposed to fall for the men what are you doing no stop"
>anon watching in horror as their dream protagonist buys a rope and a chair from ace hardware
You don't actually understand how our brains work, anon.

>>11367949
lmao, I'm not saying my tastes couldn't be impacted by such a change, maybe I'd be into tallier, more cool and "female-pretty" types of girls that leaned dominant, but there's no world I can conceive of where I'd even remotely entertain the idea of finding a dude attractive. Even if I were to become the subbiest girl imaginable, I feel very strongly my tastes wouldn't change that much.

>>11367964
I think the inverse is funnier. Throw the hetero TSF enjoyer into this: https://imgchest.com/p/wl7lkrd64x2 and watch them seethe as they're denied their fetish coming to fruition while technically being so close to it. lmao, sucks to suck, nerd. Get wooed by a girl, idiot.

>>11367854
>if they digger deeper into kink they might get into furry gender bender comics, more extreme gender bending hentai with additional extreme kinks . Spend enter weekends gooning
Damn, it really do be like that sometimes

>>11367940
Same, never knew I could love something so corny before reading it.

>>11368059
it was hitting a good balance of fluff and sex, also has the best bra shopping scene in a GB work. if only we got a panty scene too

>>11368062
>girlfriend dresses genderbent boyfriend up in a lacy black floral bra
based; when the time comes for a GB boy to have to wear a bra or panties, never ever should he start out wearing the most boring, least feminine options; there should be no training wheels. she must be compelled to wear frills, lace, and preferably a thong

>>11368032
>his reaction

DANGER, DANGER WILL ROBINSON

>>11363874
I'd be hard again immediately. No downside.

>>11366546
I could honestly see the romantic subplots being great in this premise. Men and women throwing themselves at mc, only for mc to say, "No, I can't. No, literally, if I do I'll die."

Maybe the catalyst could be similar to the selective immunity in some zombie films, where they're immune to the airborne strain or whatever.

OR, because conditional immortality is a hell of a superpower, maybe the cause of the epidemic is demonic in nature, and all the normies turn into zombies but all the people who turn into horror archetypes have some kind of demonic ancestry. And the reason the mc becomes the Final Girl is because, lo and behold, he has a succubus in his family tree.

>>11367973
>Takes Straight and Dude Magnet blessings and proceeds to ride the cock carousel and earn a reputation as a dirty slut.

Dick will always find a way

>>11368182
slap on Another Time to the 1950s and turn that yuri into a summer romance before settling down with a pushy asshole that expects you to be the perfect housewife

When did Pixiv start censoring results based on where you're located? The restriction on content by your location seems new! I thought I was getting around the imbred Christards and their moralfaggotry the whole time, but maybe my search results were blindfolded.

>>11367656
>consensual
Boring as fuck.

>>11367638
Really good post to be honest.
That's why troons can't make VNs either.

By its very nature, TSF Hentai HAS to be transgressive and this goes the against tranny mindset centred on identity.

>>11368223
They started doing that around april of last year I think based on the region listed in your account settings. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they started doing it by ip or something soon because of all the censorship shit going on around the world right now.

>>11368228
>They started doing that around april of last year I think based on the region listed in your account settings. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they started doing it by ip or something soon because of all the censorship shit going on around the world right now.

Im so tired of these people. They are also about to removed the policy thst removed duties on items from japan below rhe price or $800. Its going to suck fat fucking balls to import smut or anything else. Probably going to kill hobby link japan and some others.

Could everyone in gov just stop? I dont need to be protected from the monster cartoon kitties and I dont need to help pay down the deficit when I buy a douj of ramna having a train ran on her. Jfc

>>11368225
>TSF Hentai HAS to be transgressive and this goes the against tranny mindset centred on identity.

Are you high? Trannies and tg porn are both transgressive. What the trannies want doesnt change thst theh are not the norm

>>11367845
>The closeted ones especially usually produce and consume the forced-fem flavor of TSF
The only time I see people sayign this, its coming from a tranny. All the people that actually consume and produce force fem usually tend to me the most normalfags of the fetish.

If anything, trannies these days came up with the "I'm doing this against your will, but I see that you are trans in denial bla bla bla" basically transformistress entire stick. Niggas whose fetish is literally "making others admit to be trans".

>>11368151
>the cause of the epidemic is demonic in nature,
>It's a demonic virus that turns people into either different horror film monsters or character archetypes if they get infected
>since zombies are the most "basic" monsters and best at spreading infection, that's what most people turn into
>in turn, the two most common archetypes are either the jock or horny hot girl, who vary heavily on what they're like after the infection changes them
>The virus then goes up the horror film hierarchy of monsters and archetypes, ending in the slasher monsters and the 'virgin final girl' archetype as the rarest
>Because of magic bullshit follpwing film logic, the virgin final girl archetype is the only one that can cure the virus
>She just has to stay both alive and a virgin
>Both aren't easily done.
I like this idea, it's pretty unique and I'm a sucker for archetype/stereotype TFs.

The problem I have finding good tsf media is I don't really care about the physical tf. The real spicy stuff is the mental side; sexuality changes, girly mannerisms that slip out if they're not paying attention, "watashi..." etc. Even when I find something that does push those buttons the odds are it's still like 80% reacting to boobs growing and taking dick for the first time with just a sprinkling of The Good Shit OR it'll go too far and tip over into full identity death/replacement. Finding the OTHER good shit (social changes, like being talked down to by a tech salesman or being aggressively but not quite violently or criminally flirted with by some asshole they can no longer physically make leave them alone) is almost impossible.

>>11368324
>Unaware TG with Aware
Fuck yeah, the contrast between the two responses is always neat to see.

>>11368328
>I don't really care about the physical tf
That's you though, as I find the actual tf portion one of the best parts of the whole thing if it's done in a way I like.
>The real spicy stuff is the mental side; sexuality changes, girly mannerisms that slip out if they're not paying attention,
>Even when I find something that does push those buttons the odds are it's still like 80% reacting to boobs growing and taking dick for the first time
No joke, but that's what a lot of people seem to be into this for, which is also why mental changes/conclusions tend to be connected to various degrees of either identification change or identity death.
>Finding OTHER good shit (social changes, like being talked down to by a tech salesman or being aggressively but not quite violently or criminally flirted with by some asshole they can no longer physically make leave them alone) is almost impossible.
It's not impossible, but you won't find this is TSF Manga or even western comics, since the majority artists don't want to put that much work into art like this. You can find this stuff in a lot of written smut though, since it tends to be easier to write these themes than have a long ass comic about them.

>>11368297
>Trannies and tg porn are both transgressive
No, you don't understand.
Troon ideology means that the idea of troons has to be normalised within the stories.
If you look at the best TSF worlds, there's no concept of trannyhood. So the sex flip has maximum impact in terms of transgressive reversal.

>>11368335
The best TSF stories either have
1. Everyone is shocked by the TF and trying to either trying to fix the problem or help the protag adjust if it's irreversible
2. It's a full reality warp/shift and only the protag remembers their previous self, and the story focuses on them dealing with their struggles in the new reality they're stuck in.
While these aren't exact and a lot of TSF works dont follow these two exactly, in both scenario the TF is not shown in a positive light and is the main struggle than the protagonist has to overcome, either by finding a way to reverse it or by basically going through the grieving process over losing their old self and learning to at least deal with their new position in life.
This is also why a lot of.isekai TSF don't hit, since the whole concept is just forgotten after a few chapters outside of some token mentions for cheap comedy use. Troon writers/artists suffer a similar issue, but instead of being used for comedy the TF is used either as some kind of tool for a hackneyed lesson about 'acceptance' or in a weird, self-assurance speech, which it being portrayed as the "bestest thing ever" and nothing else.

>>11367735
Nah

>>11366212
another? whats the full list

>>11368334
>No joke, but that's what a lot of people seem to be into this for, which is also why mental changes/conclusions tend to be connected to various degrees of either identification change or identity death.

Imo, id death is usually caused by most of this stuff being porn. The writer has to move the train along to the deep dick'ns.

Also japan finds it hot when women protest and then become infatuated wirh the person dicking the woman.

Or at least, the artist introduces sub/dom or rape elements to cast a bigger net of consumers for their book.

You wouldn't have to have Id death for a longer running manga that didn't need to push the transformation aside to focus on fucking.

>>11368335
>Troon ideology means that the idea of troons has to be normalised within the stories.

I think you are conflating legbeard autistic lib harpies with all trans people. Despite being lib, it isnt required that they make their writing represent a lib or tranny utopia.

Your assertion is as nonsensical as thinking all conservative or christian writers must make the world's of their fiction into conservative or christian utopias just because a minority of either piss and moan about fictional works advilocating sin or deviance because those elements exist in the work.

>>11368339
Some other ideas work great in a single book or specifically in hentai.

Favs are "Idiot does idiot things and either becomes a woman due to their idiocy or gets stuck as one because of their idiocy." I dont need 12 books for that. The permanent change is a fine way to end a single story.

Another is getting fucked into the change. The person slowly becomes the woman and they dont mind that much because they like the sex and their lover. Usually a positive story as the joy they feel at having sex with their partner and furthering their relationship outshines their frustration over the changes.

Kind of surprised the second is really only found in hentai as it could easily be a 12 volume manga. Just imply the sex. Have two lovers go on an adventure together and their love slowly change the man. You could have serious and funny frustrations about becoming a woman but they are overshadowed by how much the man enjoys his partner. Really not that hard of a story. Maybe have a knight marry a succubus and the change is just something that happens when you have loving nonleathal sex with one repeatedly.

>>11367972
>there's no world I can conceive of where I'd even remotely entertain the idea of finding a dude attractive. Even if I were to become the subbiest girl imaginable, I feel very strongly my tastes wouldn't change that much.
I'm straight as an arrow. Put me in a female body with a female brain and bombard that brain with female hormones, I'd probably become interested in guys. Folks underestimate just how much of what they think and do is subconsciously driven by the non-rational parts of their brain.

The idea of TSF seems straightforward, but I like how there's all kinds of different reasons for getting into it. Just from these threads alone, there have been
>seeing a man struggle and adjust to the new role (social cues, clothes, etc)
>the physical aspects of the transformation
>mental changes as the victim gradually becomes more fem
>watching a formerly straight man submit to cock
>sadism, and the humiliation aspect of the change
>tranny wish fulfillment
>yurifags who think the world should be entirely female

So long as nobody is autistic enough to claim the only parts that matter are the ones that appeal to them, it makes for an interesting mix

>>11368548
It's a shame Kaneko Naoya can't carry a story for shit, his oneshots have fun and interesting ideas but his actual series tend to be shit and just sort of wish fulfillment so there isn't much story. Like that one it could be interesting to see how it develops for each of those characters but I know what I'm imagining is better than something he might write. That one he did about the boy who takes on the form of whomever's clothes he puts on, then puts on his own was interesting but it does in two chapters what his other series have taken dozens to do, that being the MC instantly enjoying being a girl and giving up on being male, had potential but he jumps too quickly. His writing also suffers from him being predictable and every character who can change will change and be happy about it, works well for the one-page oneshots and the oneshot porn, shame he can't get it to work for longer series.

>>11368548
>So long as nobody is autistic enough to claim the only parts that matter are the ones that appeal to them
If only we were so lucky

>>11368525
>I'm straight as an arrow. Put me in a female body with a female brain and bombard that brain with female hormones, I'd probably become interested in guys. Folks underestimate just how much of what they think and do is subconsciously driven by the non-rational parts of their brain.

I think it also depends on how much of the body changes. Does the brain inside the skull change? And if so, how much?

I really cant think of a single instance of this being explored directly but there are some strong differences between some women brains and some men brains.

Like some women still have that little bit of reptilian brain that gets all hot and bothered over the idea of a big male pinning them down and raping them like two lizards. Some men like that to a lesser degree, but the women that are into are really into it. Some are specifically turned on by the threat of death ke violence. They get turned on specifically by the risk, where with men its more common to be turned on by converting or saving a violent or evil woman with love and making her soft. The risk of violence is less the point.

Then there is sexual concordance. Something like 32 to 36 % of women have vaginas and brains that dont really talk to each other. Only 18% of women have a sexual response like the average man. Most gender bending makes the huge assumption that the bent will be that 18%

Then you have weird stuff like how some women get a rush from hair and skin grooming and feel dopamine from watching people pop zits or smelling weird body odors.

Oh and more women fall into average intelligence. Men are more likely to be really stupid or really smart. It would be interesting to see a tg man that starts as an idiot actually become more competent after the change or a smart man get worse at higher level math.

Women also feel more anxiety. Testosterone is a natural anxiety suppressant. This makes men more risk prone and women less.

This clicks a lot of boxes
https://e-hentai.org/s/3a3bb7eae4/3313125-3

Mini giantess serpent god / dragon sheds her skin, making a skin suit and puts it on her shorter partner to turn him into her copy and then Jack's her off.

So rare to see skinsuit stuff that is heart warming like this

>>11368702
>Guys Literally Only Want One Thing And It's Fucking Disgusting

>>11367817
She's even more confident because she knows exactly what gets a straight man going. She can wrap him around her little finger easily. Even when she's being ogled or on her knees sucking dick, she still holds all the power, and loves to show it off by taunting him.

>>11368335
>Troon ideology means that the idea of troons has to be normalised within the stories.
It's a gender-bending fetish. Obviously gender-bending is normalised. I don't know why anyone's sitting here going 'oh the stuff I jack off to is noble and honest and must not be tainted by the enemy.' You gotta go outside at that point.

>>11368032
>when you get cucked by an NTR scumbag only to have it later backfire on him after it turns out your ex-gf is a fucking psycho

>>11366227
Good example of this, makes skinsuit stuff go from feeling an extra step to crossdressing to actually pretty hot.

>>11368357
>Bunch of American political bullshit
I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, but it's likely you're a troon.
>>11368768
It's like this -- do you find a single one-time TSF in universe hotter than a normalised TSFing where it's no longer as humiliating and personal?
That's all it comes down to.

>>11368224
Just write it as weird, confusing, and kinda fucky

>>11365193
Dude, the only reason I'm attracted to women is brain chemicals. If I had different ones, I'd probably like other things. Any time I'm not horny, the human form is unpleasant to look at or think of, like most biological things. So whatever gives me the biological horniness, I'm going to go with.

>>11365169
What is it called if you're getting dicked and not getting off to any kind of attraction towards the guy, but specifically to the pleasure of your new, still foreign feeling body being penetrated, or just the overall concept and exotic nature of experiencing sex on the other side of the fence? Some kind of narcissism?

>>11365169
>>11365193
I just assume any TG scenario would have the affected individual(s) taking dick, regardless of their original sex or orientation.

>>11368844
This one looks like a great work, can you please share the name?

>>11368668
>smelling weird body odors
Women's olfactory bulbs, the brain region responsible for smell, contain more cells and neurons than those of men. Then, fluctuations in hormones like estrogen during the menstrual cycle and pregnancy can impact olfactory sensitivity. It's women/females tend to care a bit more about smell than most men. Its also why women on birth control can lose their attraction to a partner after they stop taking it as their hormones change and what smells attractive does also. One of the few realistic things about Onimai is how often Mahiro sniffs things as he's literally able to smell more and notice more scents in his new body.

>>11368900
>What is it called if you're getting dicked and not getting off to any kind of attraction towards the guy, but specifically to the pleasure of your new, still foreign feeling body being penetrated, or just the overall concept and exotic nature of experiencing sex on the other side of the fence?

Masturbatio. Some what rare. Most women are hard slow to turn on enough for those sendations to feel good. Not being attracted to the cause would make it even slower. Rape sometimes csn accelerate it because of the rush of blood and endorphins from being in a panic.

Its possible, but a woman becoming sexually stimulated by someone they dont find attractive is uncommon and difficult at best.

>>11368918
>One of the few realistic things about Onimai is how often Mahiro sniffs things as he's literally able to smell more and notice more scents in his new body.

Yeah, and men often smell more before puberty. I remember being able to smell my grandmother's house. I could fucking smell the wood paneling.

I very rarely have that happen now.

>>11368910
"Your body... It's so nice..." by Duck Gu, translated and uploaded by "lan03". I found it on pixiv, so I've no idea if there's more than the ones uploaded on there and if it's translated

>>11361354
>>11361356
fujimoto's GB short story is getting an anime adaptation

>>11369066
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDsN2cmAlhQ
i'll take credit for causing this adaptation to happen by mentioning it last thread

>>11369070
it looks nice

>>11369072
comes out November 7

>>11369078
fair warning that its yuri

>>11369064
I just read the one-shot. It's cute, but nothing special. Still I'm glad there are more big budget adaptations of this kind of stuff

>>11368942
>I have to actually find the guy hot to cum
Damn forget than then, guess it's the carpet muncher life for me

>>11368918
Also colors, women can see more shades of the same color.

>>11367854
How is hentai after trans porn? You go from 2d to 3d not the other way around.

>>11367656
Go to /co/ and read EGS that comic is consensual as fuck.

>>11369128
>read EGS
Why would anyone?

>>11363811
Too many adverts .

>>11368031
>>11368032
I had a similar dream, but it was more like a roommate level of relationship as i was kept around as a fake boyfriend, so she doesn't get hit on. But sometimes there were pushy men, so she took them for a fun ride, but actually just rid of their dick and transferred it into me, because she herself never wanted to grow a dick. Not because she believed it was gross, just that she didn't actually vibed with having a dick.

>>11368599
I can agree with this. Stories need conflict, and in a genderswap story the genderswap needs to be a source of conflict, at least for some characters.
Everyone being okay and happy with the genderswap and treating it casually unironically breaks suspension of disbelief more than magically turning a boy into a girl in the first place does. Its okay if the MC is a fast adaptor or a willing transformee, but there needs to be at least one character in the story that didn't want this and desperately wants to turn back to give the story some teeth and stakes.

>>11369083
Yurifags will constantly bitch and moan when they're constantly getting good shit.

Does anyone have the Autocloset tg comic drawn directly for 4chan years ago?
Where a guy gets turned into a wife possibly for a rich kid by that kid's dad? I think brainwashing was involved, and it was black and white

>>11369118
I didn't know that, I guess that makes these opening pages work on a different level beyond being a meta joke.

>>11369087
How do you know its high budget?

>>11368918
It's better to be a woman and to have a higher awareness of life. Better color vision, sense of smell, etc. Better balance and coordination. Dancing and sex are more fun. Everything gives an emotional kick and life isnt as boring.

You can read body language and gave high intuition in social situations, you can multitask. You don't even have to ask permission to bring life into the world.

So much of masculinity is centered on violence in a world where we've killed all the bears and violence is becoming obsolete. The men keep fighting each other because there's nothing else to fight.

>>11369445
this one is going straight into the breeding stand

>>11369489
>Turn into the girl for all the perceived benefits it gives me in modern society
>Society collapses almost overnight along with the way to turn back
>End up as a concubine for your region's post-apocalyptic warlord
At least there's a higher chance of survival like this?

>>11369498

Women spreading their legs for the men of conquering armies to stay alive has been a thing throughout history. Most men are squimish about killing defenseless women so as long as you were compliant you would likely survive. The odds of you getting raped or enslaved in a setting where society has broken down and lawlessness has taken over are very high though

>Good premise
>good art
>but it's a body swap
I fucking hate that my main fetish category is like 12 fetishes in a trench coat and 8 of them are absolute shit.

>>11369519
Or worse, skinsuit/possession. I can tell 90% of the time when it's going to be a shitty possession story from the first 2 pages. I hate the stupid fucking evil face trope they always do too.

>>11369519
>Body swap
>Forced Feminization
>Crossdressing
>Skinsuits
>Identity Death

There is a lot of subgenres of TSF that just don't appeal to me at all. Personally I think there should way more stuff that mixes in other weird fetishes as well like mermaids,shrinking,amputees and time travel

>>11366212
You got anymore ts pornwhas?

>>11369083
It's kinda interesting how most new sfw tsf anime/manga/lns these days are yuri but the r18 stuff is still almost all het.

>>11369507
>Women spreading their legs for the men of conquering armies to stay alive has been a thing throughout history. Most men are squimish about killing defenseless women so as long as you were compliant you would likely survive. The odds of you getting raped or enslaved in a setting where society has broken down and lawlessness has taken over are very high though

The frequency of being conquered was fairly rare in the past. And its not automatic that those raped during the sacking or occupation of a village would produce babies. People who repeat this story act like villages where conquered every generation and all the women were impregnated every single time.

The truth is far more dull. A village might go 10 generations of just farming and cattle raising. Women were given away in exchange for cattle and land.

If women have a preference for rape or are built to acoujt for it, it is from our pre human past, as primate, before we could talk and thus not consent

>>11369519
>>11369554
>>11369559
Honestly, possession and surgical tg are the only 2 I'm not into. The rest, I still enjoy. As long as there's a scene where someone looks in the mirror and goes "what happened" I'm good

>>11369554
i like skinsuit, if there are clear drawbacks like wearing it too long will fuse with the user and such.

>>11369581
>Honestly, possession and surgical tg are the only 2 I'm not into.

I could be into those if done right, but they are rarely done right.

Like with possession, have like the possession change the body a little more each time. And have a good plot reason for it. Like say its a power ranger who uses the power of animal spirits for their morphed but the spirits are all female. Or have a guy call the spirits or long dead heros and he physically becomes them when he summons their possession to solve a problem. Like he summons and becomes a dark elf archer to shoot arrows wirh amazing skill.

I dont know, a lot of possession stuff kind of feels like self hatred given form. Like the writer hates their own body and self so much they just wish they could complete over write it. Arisa Yoshi did ok with the chapters on a little demon woman possessing a guy's body. But the witch body swap / possession was kind of snuff light.

Surgery can kind of be hot if there is some scifi to it. Also, there is something hot about castration like "oh man, shits getting real, no going back now." But often it just kind of comes off as horor light or is hand waved and glossed over and not really worth narrative trouble. Like just using a speech bubble to gloss over this guy's fat distribution, bones, and muscles all being changed wirh Surgery. As if that would be easy and not ground breaking for modern plastic surgery

>>11369567
>It's kinda interesting how most new sfw tsf anime/manga/lns these days are yuri but the r18 stuff is still almost all het.

Sfw is for people interested in the idea, so transbians and dudes who like pretty girls. A lot of r18 includes it to increase the kink tags and widen their audience. Its why you have plenty of books that will only dedicate a few panels or even just text to rhe change. They are just kink making to increase sales.

>>11369128
Wuzzat

>>11369567
I enjoy a good yuri romance, but yuri sex fucking bores me. Cause of it, It's one of those times where I read porn for the story.

>>11368346
just Google it by name
https://manga18.club/manhwa/slutification

>>11366212
I will read, hoping for actual penetration

>>11369489
I don't exactly want to be a horse anon.

>>11368324
>I'm doing this against your will, but I see that you are trans in denial
so fucking sick of this metaphorical discord grooming
I think it especially irritates me because it's directly adjacent to one of my favorite TSF tropes, but it strips out the best parts, including all meaningful conflict, and replaces them with politicized, tactless, and shallow wish-fulfillment in a >>11368334 setting with tranny normalization.

>>11369960
misclick, meant >>11368335

New thread: >>11370014

>>11369960
>replaces them with politicized, tactless, and shallow wish-fulfillment in a

Troons making a little fantasy story for themselves and other troons and warriors isnt a political attack on you.

They're werdio dorks, yes, but you're beinf a dweeb by framing it as something political

>>11370240
>politicize
>to give a political tone or character to
the charitable interpretation here is that you're ESL and haven't visited /aco/ since shortly after it was created

>>11369519
>>11369554
Totally. I dislike all three of those: body swap, skin suit, possession. Nevertheless, the recent sasanoma nibi doujin on exhentai is body swap but the art is just too good to pass up.

>>11364518
>>11364639
>>11365295
I love these "Get turned into some Kitsune fox spirit" ones.

>>11370589
normally I hate them, but recently I came across a bot on jai with the premise of a murderer who kills the guy's sister, turns her into a magic skinsuit, and then forces the guy to become his own sister. apparently because the murderer liked his personality and his sisters looks, so combining them was 'perfecting' them. there's also the same plot but with their step mother.