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This thread for chicks addicted to porn and frying their brains getting off all day.
Futa is allowed. No tranny/sissy stuff

Getting this started
TQ: Why do you want a goonette gf? If femanon, what made you this way?
previous thread: >>11296628

>>11375492
I might be a femdom-obsessed gooner but it'd be hot to have an insatiable goonette gf who just ties you down and milks you until she's satisfied
Maybe even slipping something in your drink to keep you hard long after you should've gone soft, and doesn't let you consult a physician or doctor when you have an erection lasting longer than 4 hours

>>11375493
Hopefully this thread is actually correctly set up

>>11375492
I'm big on hypnosis and girls losing control.
It's the perfect combo of both worlds.

Wish this was not just men, but European femanons itt...

>>11375492
I used to be a gooning addict but have since kicked it, but the thought of addiction still turns me on (hence why I'm itt) and I never got to fap with someone in person.
Gooning with a girl "just once" would be really fucking hot, especially if we get to kiss, cuddle, etc., while stroking ourselves into oblivion.
if I had a gf who did nothing but goon all day, it'd be nice to sit down with her when I'm horny, fap or fuck her for an hour to porn we like, then cum and go on with my day with the understanding she's noooowhere near finished.

>>11375491 (OP)
using finana's gooning image as the OP is peak chefs kiss

>>11375492
>Why do you want a goonette gf?
2 of my 3 relationships were ruined from me being overly horny all the time and my last one was cut too short but she was matching my horny levels at least. It feels like I can only match a goonette in libido that's why I want one I don't even think I'm a gooner though

Anyone recall a doujin where it was about two girls, one of them loved having sex and the other loved masturbating and they each tried the other and got addicted?

>>11375494
no way i could hold myself from jumping on her and feel her bush with my hand as i kiss her while my dick gets hard to blow a load on that perfect body

>>11375492
>what made you this way?
I used to be really suicidal and depressed, now instead of cutting myself I just look at porn when I'm bored.

>>11375492
>TQ
Option 3: I'm a male anal gooner that spent 20 years chasing the elusive anal orgasm, found it by accident, and now I spend hours every week just gooning with anal play. Unfortunately I need to work to survive so I can't quite go full goblin mode, but I do fall into it as often as I can

There's something utterly exhilarating about regressing into a creature that spends hours in the bedroom orgasming over and over again, stinks of BO, covered in sweat and lube, emerging only to wash my hands and put some tendies and chips into the air fryer, return to the bedroom to crank out a few more while waiting, eat food, then return to my cave to goon far into the night. Then Monday morning I shower, shave, get dressed, and no one knows what I've been up to for the last 48 hours

>>11376712
Cumming is much better than cutting, I deal with my depression the same way

>>11375492
>TQ: Why do you want a goonette gf?
i don't really want a fully gooner girl. Just would be funny to find a prime and proper girl who during lockdowns or longer days off turns into this >>11375494

>>11377807
>once goon so much that I got a friction callus on my clit
how was your clit still sensitive after getting calloused?

>>11375492
>TQ: Why do you want a goonette gf?
I don't. It's hot to watch, but I know I could never satisfy a gooner gf. I watched a chaturbate stream where she had some ass vibrator with the intensity controlled by donations. It took forever for her to cum the first time, but in the 8 hour stream she came 25 times. An average of once every 20 minutes for 8 hours. And there was an all-time record in the 40's.

>>11375492
> Why do you want a goonette gf?

I used to be in contact with a goonette who was into a lot of the same kinks and more. She is basically how I got to be into penis enlargement to the degree that I am, and is one of the only women who has managed to rewire me mentally. She lost her account and our other form of contact was severed when she got banned.

Since then I have tried to contact goonettes. The last person I was in contact with we discussed how to satiate her if her libido is too much for me. She proceeded to go feral at the idea of being forced to keep at dildo strapped in at all times and wear a vibe I control so I can tame her. Getting a woman that horny over how to make a potential relationship work is probably the hottest thing i've experienced.

>>11378545
>She proceeded to go feral at the idea of being forced to keep at dildo strapped in at all times and wear a vibe I control so I can tame her.
I want to do this to a goonette gf too, getting her all worked up all day for her to jump on you and viciously squeeze your dick dry sounds so fun

>>11377897
Pretty normal, but now I only use vibrators or clit sucking toys lol, if I rub it, only when well lubed, at least the callus is no longer as apparent as it was before because I applied some ointment. For my female friends, please: always lube it well when gooning ;-;

I LOVE TOMOKO I LOVE TOMOKO I LOVE TOMOKO

>>11379128
Complete fiction that Tomoko would have the scratch to get a RTX5090 to lure someone in. (Although I love the idea of a gooner girl using bribes like that to indulge her gooning.)

>>11375492
I used to masturbate every day at least once usually edging for a hour or longer until my depression worsen and now it is hard for me to keep on edging so Im kinda over it but it was just hot to edge myself over and over

I've just discovered the joy of gooning. Perfect storm of events occurred and now I am utterly addicted.

>be me
>fap every day or two but it's just routine
>use different lubes and toys, nothing really feels great any more
>I mean feels good to fap but most lubes and toys are just fine
>one day going to fap and decide I'm tired of the same lube and lotion
>decide to give canola oil a crack
>holy shit dudes
>it's slick, cushioning, and pillowy
>apply a tiny amount in three layers and it feels incredible
>like it's not your hand or dick that's lubed
>you're lubed and your lube is lubed
>hard to explain
>a little goes a long way
>lasts forever (more on this later)
>gets warmer as you go
>somehow my faps with canola feel better at every stage
>stroking feels nicer
>lead up to orgasm feels nicer
>orgasm is stronger
>cum more (idk how I just do)
>afterglow is longer and stronger
>keep using it for a few weeks and it doesn't reduce in intensity at all, perfect lube acquired
>one day fapping and watching a clip about gooning
>some hmv thing
>mentions spending hours slowly stroking and teasing yourself without letting yourself go
>decide it seems like an idea and I got nothing else on
>also canola oil just lasts so long
>start stroking and watching porn
>literally spend about 3 hours stopping, getting to the point of cumming, then stopping until I start going soft, then resuming
>by the end of the last hour I'm in an absolute state
>horny, cock is practically purple, balls are aching but in a pleasant way
>desperate to cum, constant precum, nipples hard, practically begging to cum
>the one application of oil I applied 3 hours ago is still good
>wonder how good this would be if it was being done to me by an expert
>finally I decide to release and god damn

>>11380505
>balls tighten hard and painfully
>shoot multiple blasts of ropes
>arch back and can't breathe
>orgasm for what feels like forever
>enjoy afterglow for another 10, 15 minutes
>every time I stroke I feel another wave of pleasure
>for some reason I still need to keep going
>zero post nut clarity
>zero refractory
>weird
>also still horny
>go again for another couple of hours and the end result is the same, very powerful in every way
>decide to call it
>next day do it again, just once
>fucking amazing time
>do it next day, once when I get home and again a couple hours later
>start doing it once a day when working
>2-3 and sometimes 4 times a day when not working
>never seems to lose its power
>start being perpetually horny and at half chub if not full erection
>start thinking about gooning all the time
>start looking into it and realise refractory is caused by prolactin and seems like gooning sidesteps the prolactin crash, meaning I can be horny more
>what a shame
>yesterday I had a day off of work for my birthday and decided to goon for as long as I could
>hour on, hour off, two on, one off, three on, one off, four on
>by the end of the 13th hour I'm absolutely cooked
>babbling like that woman in the BDSM clip with the vibrating saddle bolted onto her
>speaking in tongues and desperately begging myself to let myself cum
>finally let myself go over the edge for an incredible session
>happy birthday to me

>>11376712
>>11376756
good thing you found out about gooning, please don't cut yourselves

Gooning got so bad I picked up art again after years of no motivation just so I could draw my own porn. One day i'll a degenerate gooner partner who will reenact all my rapey fanfiction fantasies with me.

>>11381823
cute and sexy drawing that's how I imagine every goonette ITT

>>11375492
>Why do you want a goonette gf?
Because I want someone I have similar interests and attitudes towards life to share it with. Barring that, someone who finds the idea of being corrupted like this attractive. And I've had too many dud relationships where our libidos were too far apart.

>>11382360
>And I've had too many dud relationships where our libidos were too far apart.
this, this so much
i was the one with too much libido in all of my relationships and it sucks so much for both.

bump

>>11375492
>Why do you want a goonette gf
I want someone who understands hedonism. If you can live comfortably you should maximize pleasure.

>>11375492
Having had them before, they suck. If you can not constantly get them off any way possible they get cold and turn to other people. One day your relationship is great, next thing you know she's got a lovense in for a bunch of dudes online and bitching about you while being constantly stimulated.

>>11384781
They're better in fiction the way a NEET is better in fiction. The reality is very much a 3DPD situation, unfortunately.

>>11385164
Sad and true. At least the art is good.

>>11385230
Yes, we're easily in the third decade of good NEET art, and I thank god for it.

>>11384302
>oh nooo... watching everyone porn knows I'm... now!

>>11375492
>If femanon, what made you this way?
Like any other zoomer, I doom about the state of the world, my place in society, where society's going, etc. Especially as a woman. So instead of doomscrolling or cutting, I just jerk off to, think about, or look at porn of either men or women being degraded. It's honestly freeing desu.

>>11387918
what the fuck anon
i'm so needy i still would even without a rubber tho she should wash her butthole and surroundings

>>11375492
>what made you this way?
Simple: lots of depression, desperation, and being touch starved
I’m trying to get my life back on track and actually have a job that keeps me busy more often, but because of how life is going, I tend to masturbate often (i think I may be doing it wrong bc I barely cum, I just edge myself)
It gets intensified when I get fixated on a husbando of mine, start thinking of horny thoughts with him, get desperate for porn of him that caters to my tastes (not a yaoi girlie so I avoid that)
It depends on what birth control I’m on too, I was less horny on my previous pill but I had to switch because I was pumping too much estrogen into my body.
I wish I was more productive sometimes… lol

>>11375492
>If femanon, what made you this way?
Pretty much just exposure to porn and better masturbation methods too early, I think. I got my first exposure to porn at I wanna say 14, got my first bullet and dildo at 16, and got a wand when I was 18.
That was kinda the end of it, even if I didn't know it then.
Masturbation is good, quick, efficient, and satisfying in a way nothing else comes close to, and no sex I have ever had is as good. I spent a solid few years fantasizing about how much better actual sex would be, only to be disappointed and eventually disillusioned to it once I had sex a few times.
I'm more productive, happy, and focused when I masturbate a lot, and essentially severing sex from my relationships entirely has been a net positive, too. I have way more fun masturbating together with my current bf, than I ever have having sex with anyone, and it not being a pressure of the relationship has helped it be really stable and nice, I think. It's not like we never do anything together, but, just masturbating, or masturbating together is really good, and masturbating as a hobby is cheap and clean. Best part of being in a relationship like this is someone who gets it, doesn't get weird about sexual pride or trying new things, and gets that the best thing you can do for someone is keep that vibrator in place while someone's cumming. I love him.
It also really helped dating along to be able to just lead with "we probably won't have sex". I wish I had started doing that sooner. I used to make fun of asexual labels, but I get it now.

>>11375492
still chasing the high of my first goonette gf
typical meme online relationship from discord for about half a year
honestly though, high sex drive women aren't that hard to find
I think what made her special was being a virgin that was extremely sensitive and tight
she actually had some physical issues with her vagina that required pt and could barely handle small toys in
she was also special cause she enjoyed manga and read every word vs other girls that want to be fed that really only care about the pictures for shock value or disconnecting themselves by assuming a character
I think ease of orgasm has to be my most preferred sexual trait in a woman
nothing better than seeing them with their head fuzzy and being so vulnerable especially after giving her masturbation instructions or helping to narrate hentai for her especially as she had a voice kink
that first time she told me that she was starting to have rolling orgasms (she was so cute when she didn't even understand it was a thing) is a memory I can always access for an ego bump
also she roped me into her daddy kink hard and I've called her name out when I came to loli content even months after
she was pretty good looking, average blonde midwestern
a bit chubby but in all the right ways, she stayed on top of her diet and also hit the gym
I think the 3DPD thing is more of a 4chan issue
ultimately she eventually lost her job (I feel guilty for sending her so many triggers during the day)
went a bit full gooning and also booze/weed/some pills and she started to pull away
last I heard she was contemplating grippy sock jail but more than likely she just got someone that was available more often
hoping one day she'll relapse with me specifically
<3 Puppy

>>11388305
>It depends on what birth control I’m on too,
Oh, yeah, same.
The one I used to be on used to be a lot more chill, the one I take now, I think, makes me really easy to set off. Could be coincidence I guess, but, I definitely felt it when I switched.

>>11388305
>>11388817
TIL your pills can make you hornier, my ex was less horny than without them
>It also really helped dating along to be able to just lead with "we probably won't have sex"
I would argue that you're having sex, just not the PIV kind of sex

>>11389144
>I would argue that you're having sex, just not the PIV kind of sex
I'd agree. Again, it's more satisfying than any piv I've ever had. Even helping him masturbate is, in its own way, super intense and intimate.
But, piv is what people expect when you say sex, regardless of the technicality of it.

>>11389241
Dang I didn't quote your post, thanks for still reading it
> it's more satisfying than any piv I've ever had. Even helping him masturbate is, in its own way, super intense and intimate.
That's super nice!
I'm still fantasizing about how much better actual sex would be compared to using my hand and an onahole, and feel like the same could happen to me.
I'm as much if not more interested in other kinds of sex like footjobs and thighjobs too, so I am pretty sure I will be satisfied with any kind of sex. I still want to know what having piv sex is like but there's so much more than just that
What toys do you use on him and on you?

>>11389251
>What toys do you use on him and on you?
At this point I'm pretty boring. I have a few wands I'll use interchangeably scattered around the house, a drawer full of bullets and similar small vibes, and a bucket of dildos/similar. Uh, and a shower head. That's a good one. I used to be more of a hoarder, but I downsized about a year ago and only have a dozen or so things left. I wanna say it's 14, I still have more than I actually use either way. I usually do my own thing for the most part. He'll cuff me and stick vibes to me sometimes, he thinks I smell really good when I'm masturbating so he'll sometimes cuddle into me, which I think is really sweet. He's definitely a laundry sniffer, it's cute. I have a pair of remote toys we play with in me sometimes, including a fun thrusting dildo from goddamn walmart of all places.

He mostly shares my stuff, and helping him usually boils down to using a wand on him, or helping with a dildo, since he's not flexible enough to really get it himself. He makes really cute noises and gets all snuggly after he cums from anal, so I love that. I also like torturing him a bit with vibes afterwards. Handjobs while he's on my boobs. I really like fingering him in the shower against the wall, but I think I like that more than he does, lmao.
Of his own, he has a cool vibrating sheath that's something between a chastity cage and an onahole he loves, a grinder I've borrowed a few times, a few aneros/njoy/funny prostate sticks, and one of the fancy sculpture onaholes that I think Tenga sells. He tries a lot more stuff than I do now, kinda like how I used to.
I'm interested in a double ended dildo to use together, but haven't really felt the impulse to actually order one, and don't know if we'd actually really do it. I kinda "feel" like we'd do it once or twice, then never again.
We tried a footjob once, he wasn't really into it. Which, a bit unfortunate, I actually kinda liked that kind of vibe, but eh.

>>11389665
We tried a footjob once, he wasn't really into it. Which, a bit unfortunate, I actually kinda liked that kind of vibe, but eh.
Maybe he might enjoy a different texture than just oiled feet, like with nylon socks or pantyhose. They go from silky to more rough nylons you could wear, then lube your feet.
You could also masturbate him with an onahole but grabbing it with your feet. And yes he is certainly a laundry sniffer, he loves your scents

>>11389771
Hmmm
Maybe
I'm not much of a nylon or pantyhose person myself, and as far as I know he isn't, but, worth a try I guess.
I don't really see the point of an onahole with feet. The entire point thing of an onahole is to like, I can't explain, rhythmically squeeze and pulse your grip up and down as it goes, right? That's what I do and he lokes it at least. Feet don't really do that the same way.
Well, I imagine SOME people's feet can do that, but, definitely not mine.

>>11389899
>I don't really see the point of an onahole with feet.
The difference in the way you move and pressure with your feet could make him feel great, but that's just me guessing
>rhythmically squeeze and pulse your grip up and down as it goes, right?
Damn have I been using mine wrong all along? Mine are big and hard so maybe I can't do that with them.
Overall it's nice you guys found each other! I dream of all of us gooners and goonette to find their perfect pair one day.

>>11389932
That would count. Don't do that.

>>11388817
switching birth controls can be a lifesaver. Also like a few people I know it gave them curves/bigger tits for the first time

>>11391083
my 1st gf had no curves for years until she switched pills, then she got noticeable bigger tits and stuff. she also got chubby, that for me was a godsend

>>11386779
I'm almost completely sure that about 80% of all gooners have a similar story

>If femanon, what made you this way?
troon (idc what you think), and I realized how easy it is to orgasm as a girl. dickstrokers don't know what they're missing, and I'm not even talking about the prostate

>>11391185
Yea I share that story. Instead of doom-scrolling like my peers, I cum to fetishistic porn everyday

>>11391198
Years ago, I had a troon gf.
I remember how sensitive her body was, I got her to orgasm just from fondling her in bed a couple times.
I must say I am jealous

>>11375494
This is hot

>>11378679
Artist?

>>11381823
Are you a woman?

>>11392423
just look at it
>the room's air is made of an noxious inebriating stench of sweat, pussy, pussy juice
>the toys are all dripping with her warm sloppy cunt goo, there's likely one lost in the mess, covered in jellied vaginal snot
>the ground is soaked in squirts
>her pits and bush? haven't seen a blade for eons
>that shirt has sweat stains in every crevice
>her body got carefully shaped for years by a mixture of great genetics, a lack of exercises, excessive fast food but also copious riding of her dildos
>everything from start to finish is there to lure any guy degenerate enough to lose his mind and blow his load in her and get her pregnant
she's perfect anons. imagine getting your face full of her fat tits whike you grab her sex handles and fuck her sloppy mess of a pussy

>>11392458
We need more like it fr

>>11392424
https://x.com/foN_r18/status/1913603247509545012

For any femanon or guy with goonette here, what is the best place to start dating a goonette, is fucking discord the only viable option?

>>11391198
SHUT THE FUCK UP RETARD FAGGOT :)
WE ARE GOING TO KILL YOU :)))

I love to goon as edging myself. Femanon who is in to teasing and orgasm denial/delay, a whole weekend of gooning without cuming. Then at the end, sometimes I get off, not always.

>>11393798
Honestly sounds like it would be super fun to edge you femanon

Thank you. I love to edge with numbing lube or cream. It causes my clit to go completely numb the longer i play with it. I love to spend hours fucking my ass while desperately horny, but unable to cum. Covered in sweat and slick, begging
Sound like something you would like?

>>11394346
nta but I too love to use numbing lube on my dick and go for an hour stroking it, adding vaseline after the lube dies out

>>11389665
>We tried a footjob once, he wasn't really into it. Which, a bit unfortunate, I actually kinda liked that kind of vibe, but eh.
World's unfair.
So hard to find a girl who'd enjoy all on her own satisfying a guy with her feet (and legs in general) and when some guys do, they usually aren't into it.
It'd be funny if it wouldn't be so sad.

>>11395220
>World's unfair.
>So hard to find a girl who'd enjoy all on her own satisfying a guy with her feet (and legs in general) and when some guys do, they usually aren't into it.
I know right? So rare to find a woman actually into footjobs, let alone the whole goonette's post.

>>11393687
I can't speak to the wider experience, but I found my bf on a dating site. I forget which one, I had like three or four at the time, and stopped using it pretty quickly after. I know I had bumble, name sticks out, but I can't remember any of the others.
I don't really know how to translate that into anything helpful though. I know broadly the problem with sites like that is ghosting, but I wasn't fucking around and was pulling for dates pretty much immediately after I made sure they weren't psychos. Took four before I met my now bf. So. Uh. Yeah no idea how to actually do that on the guy's end besides generic "get out there" stuff.
Maybe be willing to hear out anyone who labels themselves as asexual? Can't guarantee everyone else who does is a professional masturbator, they may actually just be ace, but, it's how I had labeled myself to filter people who wanted things I don't

>>11395220
>(and legs in general)
Oh, here, maybe just to piss you off a bit more about the cruelty of it all, one of the other things I actually do enjoy is thigh sex. I find it really endearing and kinda cute, having a guy hump into my legs like that, and it feels kinda cozy. I can kinda just vibe with it while doing my own thing and enjoying the mood and his cute sex sounds, and masturbate on my own if I'm feeling it. He's not super into that either, though. He'll humor me now and again, though, 'cuz he's sweet like that, but, only now and again, and I know he way prefers other stuff.

>>11395400
>Oh, here, maybe just to piss you off a bit more about the cruelty of it all
It's okay, femanon. I appreciate you sharing and may think bittersweet about it next time I'll get horny, but I don't get jealous and angry over such stuff. Just another one of those things I like that I just don't have available anymore. Life goes on and so will I.

I hope you will enjoy yourself next time you'll be doing that, knowing how much the guy enjoys your thighs and how good it is spending himself between them. Have fun, you two.

>>11387918
Disgusting.
I understand some girls having health issues or not being the prettiest but she looks disfigured and diseased.
I am kinky, but not without standards and self-respect. Would not fuck.

>>11375492
I don’t really know why, but for a long time now, one of my top “sexual” fantasies is just to masturbate together with a girl as we share the porn we’re into. Not sure if that’s wholesome or not but it has a weird comfy but hot as fuck feeling I really want to bond over

>>11395400
>Oh, here, maybe just to piss you off a bit more about the cruelty of it all, one of the other things I actually do enjoy is thigh sex. I find it really endearing and kinda cute, having a guy hump into my legs like that, and it feels kinda cozy.
Thighjobs from chubby thighs are easily my greatest fetish, even more than footjobs

>>11393798
I unintentionally do this because my ssri don't let me orgasm, call me the edge master cause I don't think I've ever busted once.

>>11376712
>>11386779
>>11388305
So a question to all goonettes, how much does your kink tastes in 2D/porn translate to IRL?
I've known one that is onto freaky shit like threesomes or even some NTR which I consider a redflag however she is totally a shut-in shy that for some reason posts "tfw no bf" once in a while after I spend hours talking about doujins, eroges etc with her
There's a lot of freaky shit I saw on doujins before such as incest, water sports, pegging etc that I goon to but not sure if I'd do it IRL, is it the same for goonettes?


TLDR I get confused on the border between freaky hentai vs saying stuff like "I'll have to hide my hentai from my kids if that ever happen"

>>11396323
Eeeeh bout 50/50
I'm pretty much always down to try things I like from porn kinks, but it's really hit or miss if I'll like 'em.
Probably the most standout case of something I like as a fetish, but not irl is smell stuff. In theory and in animation, I like steaming bodies, sweat, musk, huffing groins, ect, but, in reality that shit just kinda stinks. Hentai makes armpits look sexy as fuck and amazing to huff, but in reality, nah.

I like age gap or loli/shota but have zero interest in it irl, and there's a few other kinks that, for one reason or another, I wouldn't consider worth it due to prep/cleanup/extremely uncomfortable/whatever. Never gonna actually try choking, never gonna actually try any long term bdsm stuff even if the idea of scenarios can be hot.
On the flip side, I do actually like some of the more elaborate role play and scenarios the handful of times I've done it with my bf. My play with ropes and themed toys have convinced me that I would be 100% down for some tentacles if I could be guaranteed they were safe. Having encountered a few irl, I can say, femboys/traps are just as hot, if not more hot irl, even if I haven't actually had sex with any. I've pegged my bf twice, I kinda liked it but we agreed it wasn't really that much better than me using a dildo with my hands, and it's hard on my hips.
I always try to come in with tempered expectations, and I'm usually coming from a position of the experience being more fun that the execution (I mean, a lot of good masturbation is like that. 2 hours of prep for 15 minutes of somewhat above average masturbation is pretty normal), but, I like to think I have a pretty healthy balance of expectation vs reality, and masturbation fantasy vs actually functioning as a human being. Probably the most out there thing I masturbate to, that I'd actually be down to try is I'd definitely want to watch my bf get fucked. He doesn't want to though, and I respect that.

>>11396352
Interesting, I agree on your pegging take, I hear women often get tired of humping, a dildo/prostate massager is hotter, I did try bj + fingering with a previous gf and loved it, funny enough one of the doujins she sent me had a ffm threesome and one scene a girl gave him a rimjob while the dude fucked the other, I did just mentioned that and she said something along the lines of "Im just for the fun" and replied with "I didnt say it was bad", I fear a lot of girls would be turned off at rimjobs or so, which I did try before and liked a lot lol
Also I was so sure she was a lesbian at first because she kept sending hentai of girls or how she has dakis and her waifu and wants "her on bed", the ffm threesomes but then she said "mmf is fine too" and the whole thing about kids or wanting a bridal dress which made my brain go haywire.
Maybe goonettes act a lot like Marin having a waifu and fangirling over girls calling them hot but not really want to be lesbians with them but more of a "want to be her" situation idk, I guess thats one thing guys cant compare or relate to
Also we both talked about liking ropes/shibari and femdom but not sure about threesomes or NTR, I'm too monogamous for that
One of the secrets to have a good bonding is respecting and not obsessing over being 100% compatible in everything so its probably overthinking lol

>>11396368
>Maybe goonettes act a lot like Marin having a waifu and fangirling over girls calling them hot but not really want to be lesbians with them but more of a "want to be her" situation idk, I guess thats one thing guys cant compare or relate to
Lmao. I hate to break it to you but that is a standard, male mindset. To admire and strive to be more like those we appreciate and idealize. To admire other men and use them as a goal of what we ourselves want to become and something to work towards.

>>11396447
Lol, anon got catfished by a troon or he is being cucked by yuribait?

Never talked about this before so just venting. I love degenerate hedonistic women. Doms, subs, fatties, cokehead nymphos. I'm a degenerate and I want to be degenerate with a girl. I almost had a chance because this girl was "joking" but I know she would have done terrible things to me (that I want.) I wish I had a girlfriend with a thousand fetishes, even if most would disgust me because at least I know I'm with someone who experiments and is willing to push personal boundaries. Gooner girls fit the mold. I want to watch lots of porn with a degenerate women that would be into almost everything legal. I want to snort shit with a stinky neet girl as she helps fight my stimdick. Fuck I've never talked about this before but I need to because if I don''t I'm just going to explode. I want to cuddle with a dirty sweaty gooner girl and smell her hair and pits and honestly I want to help her "clean up" and I want her to clean me up. There was another that I fumbled the bag but she's a dom but I'd let her do anything to me honestly.

>>11395827
as long as you enjoy edging that's what matters femanon

>>11375715
Literally me. My gf says im a gooner, i only go for 30 minutes twice a day and she swears the one time we had sex was a “one time thing” and wont let me touch her at all usually. She tends to call me a faggot for even looking at her or hugging or smelling her. She doesn’t like that im horny 24/7 and could get off 4x a day like i did when i camped on the beach recently. Claims she has an extremely low sex drive of nothing for months all the way to twice a month, but has used my dildo twice and fucked me once in the 2 weeks we’ve been together. She demands i leave the room when she uses it.

>>11396368
>One of the secrets to have a good bonding is respecting and not obsessing over being 100% compatible in everything
Oh, yeah, 100%. Understanding that you're not going to perfectly overlap, and getting over whatever possessiveness to allow your partner to do things to fill their needs independently of eachother is important.
It's easy for me, our relationship is built off it, but, just letting people use porn in peace to fill niches is, nowadays, I'd say crucial. And be willing to talk about it. My bf likes things in girls I don't really tag, and I remember for a second I felt weird about it, but, I got over it. I know the feeling if nothing else, and it's kinda comforting once you get accustomed to it, and they love you anyways, you know?
>Also I was so sure she was a lesbian at first because she kept sending hentai of girls or how she has dakis and her waifu
Yeeaaaah this is like. A thing. Maybe. I know I've run into it before. When you're bi, everyone gets weird about it. They think you're coping one way or the other, or else get really excited 'cuz lesbians hot. Which, I can't say I fully understand, I've never really been on the whole fujo/yaoi thing. Like, I appreciate some good gay porn, and think guys get really cute when they're bottoming, but, I've never understood the larger appeal, that I THINK is sorta like what guys like in lesbians. But at least that sorta makes sense to me as a fetish. I feel like that goes away with exposure, though. My bf used to get kinda excited when I'd get off to female characters and female lead hentai, now I think he's kinda indifferent to it besides getting familiar with my tastes and sending stuff to me I like. Which, complete aside, fukkin, you KNOW you love and understand someone when you stumble onto something they'll love, and they do. A good porn or artist reccomendation is nice.

>>11396648
I can't speak to all of that, besides him liking the way I smell while masturbating, but it IS really hot when both of you are going, and push eachother into your horrible horny-deas. And usually leads to really funny shit.
Off the top of my head, I remember once I played up eating a banana while he was jerking off once, he said he'd fuck it, so I pushed it, and he indeed did.
He says it sucked and mostly just wasted a third of a banana, but, that's the kind of thing that's super hot in the moment, regardless of how it actually pans out.
On the flip side, I remember I think it was last year, we had gotten shitty Halloween stuff, and he'd gotten like a skull mask, and came in the room while I was using the hitachi with it on, squatted, and watched me.
More goofy than anything, but, you know. Variety and weird new experiences are wonderful things, you know?

>>11396788
Sounds to me like one of those girls with mental health issues that have traumas over men and sex. Very hard for you to fix her in that regard. But you could imprint the idea for her to get a libido booster, like a change in her pill or hormone therapy. Altho that may just cause odd behavior by sexual repression shit like asking you to leave when she goons or doing 5D mind games.

>>11397221
The whole lesbian thing I meant more not as in I think it's hot but worried about she not liking guys that much or so lol, or getting NTR'd by girls, funny enough I dont think lesbian porn is that hot but I do like some softcore yuri like kissing etc to be cute
Everything else I quite agree with you

>>11396323
Eh, it depends.

Femdom or male bondage I'd defintley want to do with a lover irl. Maybe even extreme breathplay/BDSM related stuff. Maybe if manufactured tentacles come along well enough I'd love to be dicked down by tentacles.

Watersports? 24/7 BDSM dynamics? Most likely not something I'd do IRL. Pegging would be nice to do, but unfortunately most men's prostates I heard aren't as sensitive as fictional men's prostates so a guy absolutely falling apart on a strap isn't realistic unless I hit the lottery in the dating scene or wtv.

>>11392387
that sound hot and I wish my body would be like this instead of my erogenous zones other then genital area barely working, nowadays it's even hard for me to cum just masturbating without any toys

>>11375492
Gosh, how I start... I'm not veeery social, I'm very shy and embarrassed/afraid of being rejected, so I just don't even try to flirt, The only times I meet someone interesting is virtually, on Instagram, x or Facebook and I end up dating virtually..., I feel like a failure (even because where I live there are no interesting pretty guys, like other metalheads and stuff like that)

Last time I had sex was months ago and it was a disappointment, the guy just couldn't take it and his dick shriveled up lol, I didn't even had a fucking orgasm.

Now I still lonely, and all I have is hentai and porn to goon, watch all the fantasies and fetishes I can't realize with a real guy, masturbating minha vibrators and clit suckers for hours everyday, end up all wet and messy. I wish I could meet irl guy who can handle all my hornyness lol, but all I can do is goon

Watching lesbian porn, fisting, girls being fucked on both holes and squirting like crazy while I cum again and again with my toys

>>11376724
how? I've been trying to have a prostate orgasm for years and I always can only get close

>>11391198
>troon (idc what you think), and I realized how easy it is to orgasm as a girl.
i mean a lot of troons just lose their sex drive entirely. really is a coinflip there
>>11392387
>I must say I am jealous
i can't imagine any males who aren't

>>11375491 (OP)
Suifuel the thread

>>11386779
>Like any other zoomer, I doom about the state of the world, my place in society, where society's going, etc.
>Literally won the genetic and birth lottery by being born a gooner female in the 21st century
>Thinks it's time to be a doomer
You literally have it better than actual kings and billionaires

>>11399021
There's nothing wrong with being picky. It's better to be alone than try and inflict a relationship neither party likes on people. Sexual incompatibility sucks, but it is also pretty normal.

My problem is that 90% of the time I find a woman I'm compatible with and the relationship withers on the vine because geography cucks you. I live in the PNW, an 8+ hour relationship ain't gonna work.

I ran into a woman last night while looking for an ERP partner, who was an absolute gooner interested in being made my pet and I'm fucking lowkey feral still

I don't know if I could satisfy her with just my dick but the idea of using orgasms/gooning time as a reward for positive behavior just absolutely sends me

> Gooning/orgasms as a reward for tasks (cleaning room, showering, etc)
> Chastity belt with a dildo and possibly vibes locked in her when she shouldn't be gooning out
> Free-use and other kinks as part of our petplay

This woman was super into being degraded and having her tits forcibly enlarged too, to the point that she was open to being home-bound due to their size and it fucking sent me to the moon.

>>11399206
You wouldn't be able to satisfy her with just your dick. IRL, or over the internet. IRL a dude's refectory period is almost never low enough to keep trucking like that. Over the internet you want to provide variety because there's only so many ways to describe thrusting into her. She sounds fun, though.

>>11399021
I honestly wish my body would be that reactive and instead I usually goon for hours because I always have to stop it few times before I can cum and have to come back to it over and over and neither liking edging isn't helping with that nor is the fact that I overused my toys and I don't even know if I can stil cum with just my hands
>>11399206
aside from the tit thing is sounds so fucking hot
being made into a horny mess that only lives and breaths for orgasms and edges just to be put into chastity and forced to pleasure someone or do other tasks to be able to touch myself for a short bit and having to race myself so I can cum in a short time given to me without the belt or maybe even having to edge in that time as well before I'm allowed to cum
I know I will never have something like that not only because finding a partner like that with whom I would want to spend at last a part of my live is close to impossible but also because of my body but hey at least I can goon to it later

>>11399221
Well yeah that's why my idea is to find ways to keep her satisfied without destroying myself in the process.

I'm hoping something comes of it but man, if I don't I think the kind of enthusiasm I got from her has rewired me a bit.

>>11399223
> close to impossible
> because of my body
What do you mean?

This thread makes me hate my body and makes me hate being male so much

Men tend to forget the importance of foreplay in sex. A lot of men simply don't have the constitution for repeated sex in the same night. I try but I'm also getting older with health complications now.

>>11399238
>What do you mean?
Either they're alluding to the fact that they struggle to achieve orgasms or they have a condition. Nothing quite obliterates a woman's self esteem and sociability like eczema or psoriasis. And if that doesn't, the dudes who swear they can champion through it and love her at the other end only to flake after a week will. Either that or they're fat and they have a complex about being fat.

>>11399244
You don't hate being male, you hate that you think women have it easier.

>>11399268
>You don't hate being male, you hate that you think women have it easier.
No, I hate that women get to be femgooners and that male sexuality is so constraining
ITT is my ideal self that I will never be

>>11399270
Focus on your recovery after cuming. Try to change your diet and lifestyle. Get dopamine from physical activity over seditary ones and masturbation alone. Try eating more fatty fish like salmon and tilipa and less junk foods and seed oils. Also get over your depressing rut. If you can't be your ideal self then it doesn't hurt trying your best.

>>11399270
It's only as constraining as you let it be, anon. There's a world of nuance to it you can step into if you want and allow yourself. A lot of men get cheated, I think, both because of how easy it is to make a penis cum, and because of how narrow the standards of male sexuality are.
Experiment, anon!
Have you ever tried masturbating with a vibrator?
Not up your ass or anything, just, vibrator or hitachi on your penis?
Have you ever spent the time massaging your chest?
Squeezing and kneading your perineum during/immediately after you cum?
Have you ever played with yourself a bit, and reached a point of satisfactory conclusion, that wasn't an orgasm?
Have you ever used a cage or sheath, or stuck something up your ass to stop from getting hard, and played with yourself soft? Experienced a soft orgasm?
There's a world of options to playing with and enjoying your body, male or otherwise. The only thing stopping you is how easy you've had it, just being able to rub one out under any conditions in like 5 minutes whenever you want.
Spend some time getting to understand yourself.
Have you ever really thought about, say, what kinds of smells you like during sex? Sounds or music?
Have you ever really felt different, non-traditionally erogenous parts of yours up, to experience what kinds of things you like?

>>11399268
We can speculate, sure but never know for sure unless they're up to talking about it.

>>11399281
>Focus on your recovery after cuming.
My refractory period means I lose all interest in sex after I cum
>Try to change your diet and lifestyle.
I've been trying, I just wish I were a goonette who's cardio is just masturbating.
>Also get over your depressing rut. If you can't be your ideal self then it doesn't hurt trying your best.
I don't know what trying my best here means

>>11399283
>A lot of men get cheated, I think, both because of how easy it is to make a penis cum, and because of how narrow the standards of male sexuality are.
Yeah, a lot of male sexual tricks are about avoiding cumming or not ejaculating
>Have you ever
Yes, then I remember I'm a disgusting fag moid instead of a female gooner
I have to imagine myself with a female body to do any of that

>>11399238
my body just isn't very responsible, my tits aren't much of a erogenous zone, I have to goon for a longer while most time when I want to cum and it feels good but not that good and I know some of it is just depression but even when it wasn't that bad it still wasn't something I could have get easily addicted to despite how much and often I gooned and probably still would if not for how often I rot in bed hoping to die tl;dr I blame my nerves or body chemistry being wired weakly because otherwise I would have find out a way to feel good with how much time I wasted gooning either by accident or trial and error
>>11399244
there is a answer to that
>>11399268
I have some self image problems, some real some not but when I goon I either don't think about them or break down and start crying so I don't think it's a issue here

>>11399223
>>11399310
NTA but i feel you, i have an high libido but my dick's all fucked up from getting 2 circs, the only erogenous zone on it is behind the glans and is tiny.
The large circ scar feels a bit good but need to be rough on it like when i scratch it, not when I masturbate, the only thing that sends me to heaven is when my glans get caught on the onahole's folds when pulling out and the general pressure and warmth, everything else doesn't feel good.
So I need to masturbate for at least an hour to cum, even more if I go for more rounds that day. All of this ends being a chore to quell my libido than to pleasure myself
This is why i think i want a gooner gf, i don't know if i will last this much with sex but i really believe so.

>>11399310
If you're on it you might try a different birth control, or none at all. Many meds throw things out of balance- I can't take adderall or else I simultaneously turn into a gooning fiend and it also robs me of 90% of the sensation down there. Otherwise the idea of spending hours idly coaxing an orgasm out of a goonette doesn't sound so bad. That and boilerplate cliche advice. Clean up diet, stop eating boxed food, lay off the alcohol and drugs (not saying never!), get outside more.

>>11399297
Well, you'll either find a way or find an excuse.

>>11391198
Ywnbaw
>>11392387
You're a faggot

>>11399310
>there is a answer to that
>>11399360
>find a way
For some maybe but idk for me

>>11399310
I've heard diet can affect this, but also medication like the other anon said.

Also curious, have you tried edging? I've heard that can give good orgasms to people

if she wants big tits you could just get her pregnant over and over

>>11399360
I'm too much of a looser for hookups and too mentally ill to date people and antidepressants weren't helping me so I'm on no meds now and only thing that could be applicable is walking more because I only go outside with dogs or for groceries nowadays lol
>>11399390
if you're a guy who wants to be a girl then it's called being trans and the transition is the answer to that, if it's "just a sex thing" go to sexologist or local kink people depending on how exactly it feels and ask them for help in figuring it out if it's a problem and come back after a while with good news
>>11399426
as above no meds at the time. home diet of random cooked dishes so I'm just unlucky or always were more depressed then I thought and I mentioned liking edging and doing it but it's mostly fun because of the edges themselves and denying myself orgasm for a bit because they make orgasms feel just slightly better for myself

>>11400037
I'd just focus on meeting people. Introverted loser-core dorks have social networks, too. Unless you're me. Otherwise nothing quite suppresses libido like generalized depression.

>>11400099
>nothing quite suppresses libido like generalized depression
as I said it wasn't that bad before and there is nowhere to meet people here but I doomed about it already long enough in other places and online people are a miss 99% of time and the 1% usually doesn't want to talk to me instead so I'm left with being a internet looser and talking to other internet loosers

>>11399310
My boobs are an odd case
They're not very sensitive (well in a good way lmao) until I'm already going. Cold, touching or massaging my boobs is actually kinda uncomfortable. Once I'm already warmed up, it starts feeling really good, and while or right after I cum they're REALLY sensitive, and can get me to a second off of that.
Weird how it all seems so inconsistent, you know?

>>11400368
>and there is nowhere to meet people here
Admittedly meeting people is rough. Especially when you're a loser in a community of losers who are all too eager to pull you back into the bucket. And it only gets worse as you age. Seems a little contradictory but I usually recommend people seek out things that might be hobby-adjacent. You're way more likely to find a person who's into the same hobbies as you and is amenable to the idea of being / befriending / dating a gonnette than you are to find a gooner who's also going to gel with you.
>and online people are a miss 99% of time and the 1% usually doesn't want to talk to me instead so I'm left with being a internet loser and talking to other internet losers
The internet isn't a great place to meet people. And 99% of it is just, "Oh, you don't live near where I live, so we're just yapping at each other. Ok."
>>11400625
It's true of men as well but women usually take a bit of warming up.

Bunch of trannies pretending to be women.

>>11375492
I am this way because my body made me like this
>Sensitive tits
>Sensitive clit
>Rare condition of actually getting a lot of pleasure from vaginal penetration
>The more I cum the hornier it makes me
>Touch starved femcel-lite for most of my life made me hornier than usual
I was given a goonette build by God. My man is happy but my libido is a lot to handle, he knows I have to jerk off almost every day or I would become annoying to live with.

>>11397228
One thing, contrary to this thread, is that I love chastity. I think it's so hot being teased and treated on the weekend. I want my mistress to be my goonette and also my controller. I want her to tell me what to wear, what to fap to, how long I should be caged for, chores I need to do for her, serve her. She rewards me with taking off my cage and letting me fap or sex with her.

>>11401487
>I was given a goonette build by God.
I'm happy for you and that you appreciate your gifts but am also incredibly bitter and jealous

>>11399047
I'm in a state where I already need to use a VPN to access quite a few porn sites if I don't wanna give over my DL. Not to mention the UK's fuckass Online Safety act. Anti-porn sentiment/legislature is growing, and it's most likely gonna get worse. If my parents die, my options is either finding a loving good man who accepts my degeneracy(good luck with that) or I just rent a cheap ass studio apartment(Surprisingly some of them near me are less than $1000) working as a med tech of some kind playing vidya and jerking off, because I'll be damned if my hypothetical bf is some NoFap faggot.

>>11401534
Chastity kinda... weirds me out a bit.
My bf likes it a little bit, but, in ways that make sense to me. He uses it pretty much entirely as a tool to either cum from anal, or cum soft. I can understand this. It's a masturbation toy, and something used for a reason, I get and understand it.
The idea of a guy wanting me to like, have that degree of agency over his ability to masturbate just makes me uncomfortable and anxious. Thankfully he didn't really like it either when we tried it. Maybe I'm the weird one for it, but, that aspect of chastity amd cages and femdom just seems so, so bizarre to me.
Hypothetically, if a guy was gonna like, lock himself up, give me the key, and go through all that, I'd probably just immediately unlock him and tell him to go masturbate, because I could imagine nothing I would want more out of him than releasing me from this strange circumstance.
Maybe do the dishes. This isn't a kink, I just want my dishes done. But even that feels weird.
It's probably just me, apparently tons of people really like power exchange and stuff, I just don't understand it. The only aspects I really vibe with are helping someone masturbate harder and longer than they ever could alone, which I guess is sorta power exchangey, but it's a lot more "I physically cannot hold the vibrator here any longer, can you help me out", not "torture me with sex toys" you know?
Probably just weirdness on my part.

>>11401792
I'm lucky enough to live in a state where nothing weird like that is happening, I can't imagine being forced to pay attention to shit to figure out which porn you need to archive, which you need off your drives, and shit. Ugh.

>>11401792
You could whore yourself out. Seems like it would suit you.

>>11401792
My general perception is that for every nofap faggot i know of there's way more than one gooner or definitely not a faggot male, i dont think you need to worry too much about finding a nofap faggot. guys doing nofap are stupid, but hey im a gooner so my opinion is skewed

>>11401914
Hey, I'm a gooner, not a slut. I have an iota of self-respect.
>>11401884
Shit really does suck. I've already been saving more niche fetish vids just because they tend to be deleted or privated. I sure hope they don't go after VPNs within the next few years. I might just have to buy a hard drive and save the rest of the erotica/hentai/porn videos I've been saving up. There were some gems on AO3 that got deleted and now only exist in my memory.

>>11402020
I have a small hoard of external hard drives, every time I've upgraded I turn the last one into more archived storage. I just kinda fill them habitually. There's other stuff I archive too, but, a lot of it is porn of some sort.
I always thought I was just dumb for it, some weird fixation to save stuff, but, fuck if it actually comes in handy.

>>11401792
>I'm in a state where I already need to use a VPN
Yeah, that shit does suck. Easier to change locations than change biology though, if that means anything to you
>or I just rent a cheap ass studio apartment(Surprisingly some of them near me are less than $1000) working as a med tech of some kind playing vidya and jerking off,
Do people even remain horny once they start working? Aren't all the countries with declining birthrates and marriages overworked to shit?

>>11402053
Horny =/= viability of starting a family.
People are always gonna be horny, it's just the combination of is having a child going to be financially viable, and can a child be guaranteed to have a quality upbringing and life. And increasingly, those questions are met with "no". You can barely make ends meet as it is, paying to support a kid, AND the effective entire extra shift that is childcare are just too much. And your local situation is unstable or shit for whatever combination of reasons, so you hold off until conditions get better. And then these never get better. Your birth rate collapses.
Japan didn't collapse because they weren't horny or lonely, they collapsed because no salaryman has time for a family, nor would he want to inflict his miserable existence on his children. So he doesn't.

>>11402077
Spot on.

"but but but no one is ready for their first kid blah blah blah"

It's called having a plan. If governments want people to have more kids then they need to make having kids not suck.

>>11401792
>finding a loving good man who accepts my degeneracy(good luck with that)
I'm in a loving, committed relationship where my gf and I outwardly appear normal with good careers but are degenerate freaks with one another. It's far more common than you think.

>>11402077
>People are always gonna be horny,
I'm way less horny due to being tired from work and stress

>>11402101
Exactly
There's a difference between being "ready" for a kid, and being confident that conditions are stable enough to have one.
The latter includes calculations for the former, even if people are unaware of it. People are looking for enough stability to handle things going wrong. Even if you can't prepare for a thing specifically because you don't know what it is, you can plan "crumple zones" around which your life is still "fine" if something happens.
It's largely been a backfiring of extreme capitalism that's led to this. The idea of squeezing people till the end, and actively planning around people having their lives destroyed by having kids they can't afford or properly provide for, to create the next generation of low-quality children has a weak spot, in that's just not how human psychology works. There are other factors too, some of which may be more unique to an individual, some of which may not be, but that's probably the biggest broad driving force.

I know it's a big part of why I don't want any, at least. I don't see life getting any better in 20, 30 years, I see it getting a lot worse, so I'm not gonna inflict that on mine.
There's the other part where I just don't think I'm a responsible enough person to care for a human being to completion, and that's more on me, but, the first is the bigger one. I think I could balance being a degenerate if it meant a good home situation for my kids, but I'm not gonna bother if they're going to be just as miserable as me. Or worse, because at least I had unfettered access to porn, something they may well not.

>>11401792
>my options is either finding a loving good man who accepts my degeneracy(good luck with that) or I just rent a cheap ass studio apartment(Surprisingly some of them near me are less than $1000) working as a med tech of some kind playing vidya and jerking off, because I'll be damned if my hypothetical bf is some NoFap faggot.
The challenge is finding that healthy balance. Finding a guy who's into gooning is easy, finding someone who can meet you half way between the fetish and a lifestyle is something else. Because gooning ranges from a fetish to.... a lifestyle fetish. Two people with the same fetish can be worlds apart in terms of what they're even looking for and I'd almost liken it to BDSM or TPE relationships where having an understanding on when and how you come back up for air matters. On the one hand masturbating with someone else is an extremely intimate act and on the other you gotta be able to say, "Yes, I am going to take you seriously after I watch you huff yourself stupid on my horny musk stink." Or whatever it is that you do when you're horny and loopy and lust-drunk.
>>11402272
That's the goal for most people.
>>11402319
Stress makes some people horny.

>>11402771
>That's the goal for most people.
Same anon. The healthy balance is really hard. Both of you being driven/successful/financially free sure does make it a lot easier.

>Two people with the same fetish can be worlds apart in terms of what they're even looking for
The worlds apart thing could not be more true.

>>11402771
>Stress makes some people horny.
It also tires you out so that you don't even feel like masturbating at night

>>11401792
>finding a loving good man who accepts my degeneracy
If I can stumble into one, you can too.
All I can say, is be willing to compromise and meet on equal terms. Me and my bf get along as well as we do, precisely because we both understand and accept that niether of us can completely fulfill eachother's needs, and we both are the sort to get excited and happy to find and share a way for the other to have a good time, even if it doesn't really involve us.
Mine's a weird case, since both of us just want to masturbate for the most part. I can't speak to what other kinds of compromise are gonna exist. b
But someone who loves you, doesn't want you to do less of what you love (assuming it's not immenently self destructive). It's not being a bigger part of what you love that's a good problem to have, because that means you care and love eachother enough for that to be the priority. Don't hide your needs too much when you start looking for people. It can hurt a bit, but filtering out people who want things you don't, just by being honest is a good way to go, because eventually you're gonna find someone who wants the same or complimentary things, who is gonna magnetize to you for those same reasons.

>>11401792
>I'm in a state where I already need to use a VPN to access quite a few porn sites if I don't wanna give over my DL.
Not going to pretend another state is magically better but at least it's a slightly different shithole. And many states wouldn't require you cough up your license to look at booba.
>>11402922
I think a huge chunk of the problem is that gooning shares space with outright porn addicts who want to ignore reality.
>>11403008
People who don't respond well to you being honest- and not in that "I SAY THINGS LIKE THEY ARE, BROTHER!" kind of way- have a problem. You don't have a problem. Diminishing yourself because you think it'll make people like you is a path to complete misery.

>>11396648
Fuck im the guy with a thousand fetishes, i have all these friends i go to the hut with and i had this dude putting his hands on my neck which i didnt think id like. My spirit shifted my body a foot higher, at least it felt like that. I begged him “do it again, just for a second.” And he did 2 more times. I give him a shot of whiskey in exchange for kissing all over his neck and shoulders and we did that twice too. Anyone can grab me or pretend to hit me or cut me and i get turned on and they all do this to mess with me. A fine ass skinny 5’1 guy let me feel on his shoulderblades and arms through his hoodie and i told him he had nice bones. He got all embarrassed and cute and said “thank you ahhaa” and i got to watch my gf jerk both these guys off in front of me after i stripped down to my underwear and rolled all over all 3 of them jerking off. I sniff all them real hard every couple of minutes and brought handcuffs in case i got too grabby again. One of the guys smokes crack and does coke and i begged him to let me watch him because guys doing drugs turns me the fuck on. I kept yelling “grope me motherfuckers! Someone gotta grope me!” And one of the guys actually grabbed my ass and my gf groped me. Even today she groped me in front of some other friends and ran a knife over me and it was awesome.

>>11397561
Deeply correct. She may get with the guy i also wanted before her but there is no way he could handle someone who treats me like this. If she does she will treat him a lot better, probably because his dick is actually normal size, but i dont see any relationship if hers lasting at all. She’ll start treating him like one of her creepy old men from the past too, everyone agrees my first relationship is worst than any of their first ones.

>>11401487
Me but ftm, except nobody wants me so im just throwing myself at guys i know who make gay jokes towards me and give me a little of what i want

>>11401792
Gonna be real, if you are anywhere near the north of the UK I’d chat with you in a heartbeat to see if there was a click. The burden of degenerates has to be shared, legitimately let me know.

>>11403480
They reference dollary doos so presumably they live in Texas. You'll find shitty people everywhere but only Texas demands you dox yourself to look at beeg teedee.
>>11403430
The good part of being FTM is it's way easier for a woman to pass as a man than it is in reverse because testosterone. The bad news is that if you're still sexually attracted to men you have to hit a sweet spot for androgyny where you're still feminine without the non-facial characteristics of a woman. Otherwise your pool of romantic partners is insanely small because most gay men want to go spelunk a booty bunker, not do something gay like fuck a bio-fem.
>>11396788
I'd cut the bad fruit from the tree. Unless you're willing to invest yourself in a lot of time and effort and blood, sweat and tears walking her through the healing process- which she may not want anyways, and even after all is said and done you may end up with nothing to show for it- you're not going to be happy in this relationship. Which is fine. 8 million people in the world, the number you're realistically that compatible with you could count on two hands. But OTOH, while sex isn't a great cornerstone for most relationships, it does absolutely matter.

>>11403773
>blood, sweat and tears walking her through the healing process- which she may not want anyways,
Crucially important.
It is actually possible to "fix" people, but you can only do it if they want it, too.
Not just SAY they want it, but actually want it.
I've seen it done, it can work, but you can't help the unwilling. If someone is resisting, the best you can do is hold them in place; short bursts of this are fine, people have bad days, but you're only going to make progress with their cooperation. And it does take a lot of patience and love. Actual love, not the sort of placehold-ey love of the idea of being in love, not love for some practical, utilitarian payout like sex, or offspring. Love and care in the person on those terms, the kind of love where you'd at least be willing to entertain ideas of a non-romantic relationship, because you love them as a human that much.
And doing that can't be all you're doing, either. You can't predicate your existence on that person, you have to have the ability to at least to an extent, function and be fine without them, to stand on your own, to help them up. Probably won't work if you just have a messiah or martyr complex, or love your broken birds, because then you're probably going to lose interest when they actually do start improving.

>>11403773
unless you're butch af, no man actually sees you as a man

>>11406048
Masculinity is 90% facial aesthetics and your shoulder-to-hip ratio. Most dudes aren't even aware of the FTM's around them.

Also: 606110

>>11399030
Late to answer, but two ways. Njoy Wand, on my back, knees bent with feet flat. Insert and slowly stroke the upper wall, basically pretend I'm a girl playing with her g-spot. Usually reaching orgasm within a couple of minutes.

Other way is with a fuck machine, again on my back with legs spread, letting the machine fuck me for hours on end.

>>11393696
>>11399364
ywnbh <3

>>11406060
Except for the fact that they're like 5'3" and look like Harry Potter's child-molesting cousin.

>>11406859
And I'm not talking Dudley, but some of the fat ones kind of do.

>>11406060
>it's facial aesthetics
>most dudes aren't even aware of the FTMs

It's precisely because of facial aesthetics that these weirdos stand out. Some try to hide it by wearing the covid masks, but then shoulders and hands give it away.

>>11375491 (OP)
I wish girl gooners where real

>no tranny/sissy stuff
ok, but what if i'm a femanon that has been gooning to that for years for some reason (probably some combination of having a serious humiliation fetish and internalizing deep insecurities from being bullied and being called an ugly nonpassing crossdressing man on the internet despite being a cis girl) to the point where i just bought an FTM packer and clit stroker/pump to fulfill the fantasy of pretending to be one?

whacking off to sissy hypno for 10 years (oh god it really has been 10 years) as a cis girl messes with your brain i think.

>>11375492
became terminally online at like age 11 and went through the usual shock porn gamut except instead of being grossed out i thought it was hot and got too desensitized to ever go back to normal. my degeneracy was rapidly accelerated by becoming a 4channer for mlp fandom in its heyday with the rule34 boom

>>11407398
Yo im the ftm from the thread and its hot thinking about a chick with a transition fetish towards herself, ive always been into that, you got disc?

>>11407398
>whacking off to sissy hypno for 10 years (oh god it really has been 10 years) as a cis girl messes with your brain i think.
The media you consume is a reflection of who you are. It's the same paradox as drugs- healthy, well adjusted people don't fall into drug abuse typically and studies have repeatedly demonstrated that the ones that do tend to bounce back from it rapidly instead of entering that death spiral of an addiction that ends when they bottom out or die.
You like sissy hypno because it is attractive to you, most likely as an escapist fantasy since you can't actually be a sissy. Either that or you're attracted to feminine men, or like similar fetishes you want to be able to ruin someone and still have them love and worship you.
>probably some combination of having a serious humiliation fetish and internalizing deep insecurities from being bullied and being called an ugly nonpassing crossdressing man on the internet despite being a cis girl
Subterranean self esteem will do that. You're fetishizing your trauma instead of considering that someone might like you for your self evident value instead of some version of you that you dress yourself up as. No judgement, but maybe try being social?
>>11407359
Most women have an incredibly unhealthy relationship with sex. It's not that goonettes don't exist but that they're rare, and most women are so wound up in their own headspace that they won't even consider trying it. Their loss.

>>11408001
>Either that or you're attracted to feminine men
Nta But that's definitely it for me.
I saw a little bit of it years ago, curiosity got the better of me, and it took me a minute to unpack what I was actually liking about it, 'cuz it was an unfamiliar kind of interest to me. Tried following a bunch of routes to things I figured were the reason "why", tried more traditional yaoi, no nothing special, tried more general humiliation stuff, didn't stick with me.
Turns out, I just like effeminate guys, which I already knew, and what it was doing for me was the process of turning a guy I'd otherwise not be as interested in, into one I was, and that kind of potential was interesting.
Like, it's not even the hypno porn itself, most of it is just rancid. But, the idea that a guy could be watching this, because he WANTS this, is what was doing it. Like, not whatever guy is actually in it, the hypothetical guys watching it, masturbating to the idea of it happening to them.
I dunno what that would even be classified as. It's probably the most removed from me kink I've developed, and even knowing what it "is", it still feels pretty strange.
And then there's the extra level of weirdness as a porn fetish, 'cuz while it's hot as porn (kinda?), if I ever actually did something like it, that's just not how I would approach things.
It's been a fascinating experience understanding it, and that in itself is something I actually really enjoy about this stuff anyways.

But then there is the simple level this is all grafted to, where the idea of a cute boy in a skirt, fingering himself is the fucking cutest thing in the world.

>>11407788
i would but it's very publicly identifiable so if you drop yours, i'll add and we can talk about it! i'm very curious about clit growth and would love to talk to someone on T
>>11408001
i'm bisexual so i'm attracted to all types, feminine men or masc/butch women but also traditional gender presentations anything goes. my personal theory is mostly about internalizing/fetishizing the trauma as you mentioned
>No judgement, but maybe try being social?
appreciate the thought, but i have a healthy close friend group i meet with regularly and have been in a positive long term relationship that i recently confided in asking him to indulge in my fetishes lol. i even am a long time social events organizer, so definitely not a classic tomoko coded goonette archetype. i just masturbate pretty frequently and to very degenerate stuff i've been very desensitized to, and it's gotten worse lately since i had to go off my birth control. fastest time it takes me to bust historically is about an hour but lately they've been going to multi hours... which i don't have time for but i can't stop

>>11407359
They're very real and I live in a state of envy and resentment towards them
>>11408001
>It's not that goonettes don't exist but that they're rare, and most women are so wound up in their own headspace that they won't even consider trying it. Their loss.
Could also just be biological or environmental

>>11408469
>fastest time it takes me to bust historically is about an hour but lately they've been going to multi hours... which i don't have time for but i can't stop
Eh, make the time, imo.
>so definitely not a classic tomoko coded goonette archetype
Sounds like you have the social interaction but you have this compartmentalized life where you keep one foot firmly in normie land and have this persona to maintain when in reality you'd go all-in on the fetish stuff if you knew it wouldn't obliterate your normal life. Which is good, but the lack of people who can engage with you on a sexual level seems to be the source of your problems. I just wouldn't beat yourself up over your fetishes, they're nothing to apologize for. You just need people in your life who can reciprocate with you on that level.
Could always be worse, COVID destroyed my social life- three friends outright died, I had to move towns twice in five years for work and financial reasons and the rest of my friends network I discovered didn't give two shits about me when I wasn't a convenient chauffer for them. Never recovered.
>>11408471
Nine times out of ten when I talk to women about it, they have extreme body image issues and don't understand how to engage with and enjoy the fact that people find them sexually attractive when the majority of their sexual encounters were some form of pump n' dump scheme. Sometimes with extra steps. That and the guys with the social skills of a r-worded chimpanzee trying to talk them into bed. You can absolutely rehabilitate women into a healthier view of sex and their ability to enjoy it but... that's a very long road, and you're probably going to discover you're still not compatible.
>>11408355
>Like, it's not even the hypno porn itself, most of it is just rancid.
As someone who enjoys hypnosis, mind control, brainwashing and corruption it is exhausting how much of the fetish is occupied by low effort slop.

>>11408506
>Nine times out of ten when I talk to women about it, they have extreme body image issues
Fair enough. I don't know how much of it is mental vs physical since I can't relate. I've never had sex and
A lot of the fantasy of a goonette from the male perspective trying to translate how male sexuality works onto a woman.
>COVID destroyed my social life
Working remotely (and being unemployed for some time) and being a complete shut in was actually quite nice to me. Being a hikki NEET goonette would be a massive upgrade from my current life

>>11408541
I have to settle for a single day of WFH per week. Tons of places recognize the value of WFH but also understand that there's a problem with letting you do it too much.
>A lot of the fantasy of a goonette from the male perspective trying to translate how male sexuality works onto a woman.
Its dudes who want a woman with a healthy sex drive instead of an endless guilt trip every time he wants to fuck. There's nothing quite as uniquely bad as the endless procession of women who treat sex as purely transactional and not something where they should be enjoying it and expecting their partner to help them enjoy it. At which point she's functionally admitting she's a worse version of a prostitute.

>>11408661
>Tons of places recognize the value of WFH but also understand that there's a problem with letting you do it too much.
Yeah I don't really get much done working from home most days, but I wish I could go full remote and full goonette mode

>>11408696
I made damn sure no one could criticize my work even if the reality of the job was that I was spending 8 hours doing ~2 hours of work and for about five years that's what I did. But I got laid off from that job- being in the first wave actually spared me watching the company go down the shitter- and now I have to concede that the downsides of the job (pay being the big one) meant that it was time for me to move on anyways.
Plus part of being an adult is recognizing when you need to move on. Being a neet gooner is more of a mind set than a life style if you're not 20. You find ways of indulging in the lifestyle while conceding that you have to operate in normie space to make a living, because you don't qualify for autism bux and even if you did you recognize that it ain't worth it when you're able bodied and have a relatively decent career. Having to engage with it less kinda sucks but those days where I do absolutely nothing but goon, shower, sleep and eat are still good.

>>11408506
Honestly agree.
Not gonna go full "not like other girls", but I have no idea what my parents did to raise me outside of that, and I'm mostly clear of that stuff. Probably not all of it, but at least a lot of it. A lot of women are actually real fucked up about this stuff, and it took me a while to realize that I was the weird one. College, actually. I had a small friend group in my major I'd hang out with, four of us would go to the gym together, and I remember two of them were really weird about which machines they'd use, and it took me a while to figure out they had a whole like, body shaping regimen circuit they would do. Meanwhile I just wanted a bit of flab off and not feel like shit all day if I had to run a bit to make the trolley.
Totally wild to learn.
The other one was just a mega stoner and I think she was just there to ride out her high before she went home. Cool girl. Perpetually high though, I don't think I ever interacted with her sober. Had a few spicy cuddles with her in the grass by the pond between classes.

There was also like, fukkin, I forget, I wanna say something like a presentation or a seminar on the female orgasm that went through one semester, didn't actually go to it but it had flyers up, so we'd talked about it a bit, and out of 9 of us, only me, the stoner, and one other girl, like, understood masturbating? It was so bizarre to wrap my mind around it. One said they did it a few times, but didn't know they were supposed to like, cum. Assuming they weren't just lying, that someone can make it to like, 23, 24, and just... not know how to masturbate, boggles my mind. And yeah, in that were the two doing gym entirely for some weird body shaping routine. Fukken, one of them, and one of the others didn't know they had a clit? Like, what the fuck? Meanwhile my horny ass was developing an addiction to the hip adductor forcing my legs apart, and I had to start wearing a thick pad to prevent the damp spot.

>>11409196
Women's bodies are way weirder than a dude's. Guys worry about not sitting funny so they're not accidentally crushing or stretching the berries. Getting a dude hard isn't complicated and as long as his parents didn't subject him to the magical penis mutilation ritual, he's got a giant erogenous zone strapped to the front of his dick and even if he's a complete slob you can saddle him with a fetish to clean it.
Women.... your sensitive spots can be all over the place. Many women don't realize they even have one and many more spend years struggling to find it. In that sense I can kind of get why some of them have massive anxiety surrounding it because they've functionally been edging themselves for years on end and not even realized it which.... honestly that explains a lot. On top of an endless gamut of lousy lovers- male, female, whatever- with the social exposure of a baboon they are so disconnected from their own body that their clumsy attempts at masturbation are all edge and no payoff.
>boggles my mind.
I'm in my mid 30's. It doesn't stop. You keep finding women at all ages who don't know how to actually achieve an orgasm. The medical establishment thinks some women just aren't equipped for it. I read a story about a woman who didn't even know which hole the dick goes in and decided she didn't like sex because the one time she did it with her husband- naturally, for the act of procreation- he settled on her pee hole. Which was exceptionally uncomfortable, as one may imagine.

They died childless. She functionally died a virgin.

This is the state of sex education in this country.

>I have no idea what my parents did to raise me outside of that, and I'm mostly clear of that stuff.
Parenting comes in two flavors- permissive and authoritarian. By odds your parents left you alone to figure these things out on your own. Which isn't to say it's better, but that's probably how you got here. That or teenage rebellion.

>>11408506
>I just wouldn't beat yourself up over your fetishes, they're nothing to apologize for.
you know what? thanks for that, anon. i appreciate that. it's hard not to feel shameful about that fetish even as i'm very very publicly open and shameless about other things that are intrinsically normie-repelling/perceived as degenerate, so i do feel cognitive dissonance about that. i guess it's a lot to do with not wanting to feed the demons of the insecurity.
>You just need people in your life who can reciprocate with you on that level.
yeah, i think my current bf is a good start since the freaky normie repellent stuff i'm public about and own is what made him like me. we're actually in the process of just starting to form a small subgroup of our friendgroup for sexual experimentation and exploration. exciting times. after what you said i actually feel a bit more comfortable with opening up about the fetish to them, so i guess we'll see how it goes. we've joked a lot about doing a group goonsesh but we are hoping to eventually evolve to actual play
>Could always be worse, COVID destroyed my social life- three friends outright died, I had to move towns twice in five years for work and financial reasons and the rest of my friends network I discovered didn't give two shits about me when I wasn't a convenient chauffer for them. Never recovered.
damn, that really sucks. sorry to hear about that and for your loss. i hope you find the goonette of your dreams to edge with forever some day

>>11409282
>i guess it's a lot to do with not wanting to feed the demons of the insecurity.
Eh, a lot of it is just meeting people half way. Most people don't want to talk about sex. Maintaining your normie half makes sense since you do need to engage with these people. But burning the rest of you on the off chance the normies are made slightly uncomfortable by conversations about something most people engage in is lunacy. We're not meant to live like eunuchs, the people who sperg out about any conversation relating to sex are the ones at fault.
>after what you said i actually feel a bit more comfortable with opening up about the fetish to them, so i guess we'll see how it goes. we've joked a lot about doing a group goonsesh but we are hoping to eventually evolve to actual play
My only comment is that you should be talking about consent- especially in the realm of group play- before it becomes an issue, not after. There is nothing quite as spiritually rending as realizing you were the third wheel and being forced to be the third wheel for a relationship you started with someone who just didn't want to admit they weren't happy and wanted to move on. Speaking as a third party who watched this happen to someone else.
>i hope you find the goonette of your dreams to edge with forever some day
Honestly relationships- especially when you're not a dumb teenager or a 20-something- is just finding people you mesh with and who's faults don't bother you. It's not about finding Ms. or Mr. Perfect. It's about finding conviction and finding people you want to invest yourself in and who reflect that value. Real question is how the hell you find like minded kinksters in suburban America. Only been out here for a week and thus far I'm convinced everyone's fetish is bitching about their SO, wanting to cheat, or being a swinger. Which is fine, but that's also not what I'm looking for.

>>11408506
>Nine times out of ten when I talk to women about it, they have extreme body image issues and don't understand how to engage with and enjoy the fact that people find them sexually attractive when the majority of their sexual encounters were some form of pump n' dump scheme.
Maybe not similar but for years my ex girlfriend couldn't get through her head I found her stupidly attractive from head to literal toes and stuff.
>>11409238
>Getting a dude hard isn't complicated and as long as his parents didn't subject him to the magical penis mutilation ritual, he's got a giant erogenous zone strapped to the front of his dick
If you want to get a dude hard doing physical stuff and he was subjected to the magical penis mutilation ritual by his parents, it will go from relatively easy to almost impossible. Getting him hard by doing more psychological stuff is a much better way for some
t.bad victim of the mutilation ritual, can't get hard from touching my dick alone

seems rather excessive for jannies to delete the entire post for the image being too western-style instead of deleting just the image but oh well. sorry for trying to contribute images to the thread while making conversation
>>11409349
yeah for sure, consent is king with all our kink stuff and i would never do something like this without us consulting in great detail beforehand, nevermind the fact that he was the one to initiate and discuss it first haha. it helps that we're both bi and open to experimentation, unlike some of the other people from the friend group we invited but turned us down as their partner wasn't ok with it.
>Real question is how the hell you find like minded kinksters in suburban America. Only been out here for a week and thus far I'm convinced everyone's fetish is bitching about their SO, wanting to cheat, or being a swinger. Which is fine, but that's also not what I'm looking for.
my best suggestion is fetlife lmao but i suspect you'll be pretty hard pressed to find someone there who isn't also swinging in some way. i've heard local kink events are a great way to meet the community and find people but they'll likely be very queer/poly etc as well. good luck though! maybe look for a normieish lady that loves reading romantasy, especially "dark romantasy", they can get pretty damn freaky despite how they're probably suppressing it.

>>11409403
>consent is king with all our kink stuff and i would never do something like this without us consulting in great detail beforehand
I'm talking more about what you do with groups. I was specifically talking about a friend who watched their entire relationship go to shit when they were OK with an open relationship when he realized the slow way that his girlfriend wasn't happy, wouldn't talk about it, but still felt comfortable enough in their relationship to not want it to end even though it was now a complete performance on in one direction.
The tricky part is understanding that even if he's the one suggesting all this doesn't necessarily mean he's OK with whatever shakes out. When in doubt, ask.
>i've heard local kink events are a great way to meet the community and find people but they'll likely be very queer/poly etc as well.
They tend to be overrun with identitarians, yes. Nothing wrong with that, but they tend to crowd out the people who aren't souper douper hardcore about their sexual preferences. BDSM munches are chock full of show boaters.
>maybe look for a normieish lady that loves reading romantasy, especially "dark romantasy", they can get pretty damn freaky despite how they're probably suppressing it.
Yup. You find goonettes in places not explicitly set aside for kinks. You'll find them in places like book reading groups, handicraft groups and generalized weeb-adjacent hobbies. But it is difficult to break into these things when you're new in town, and have zero friends.

>>11409403
>my best suggestion is fetlife lmao but i suspect you'll be pretty hard pressed to find someone there who isn't also swinging in some way.
I'd second it
It didn't work for me, but, I could see it working for someone else.
Main thing I'd add, you CANNOT be passive or wait for someone at a fetlife event. If you struggle to be social, it probably won't work, you have to be able to talk to people.
And yeah, fetlife has a pretty noticible queer/poly skew. Not everyone, obviously, but, pretty common.
For me, it worked because I could skip over and start at the part where I have kinks, it didn't because I have next to no interest in actually DOING those kinks with just anyone, and since that is kinda more on me, I suspect it works.
Uh. Just. Know how to talk and be social, but also know how to take hints and take no for an answer. Hard line to find I guess.
Also be able to be chill when a granny starts giving a blowjob to the guy next to you.

>>11409628
Yeah, Fetlife isn't a bad idea but it also attracts the all-gas-no-brakes type people.
>Main thing I'd add, you CANNOT be passive or wait for someone at a fetlife event. If you struggle to be social, it probably won't work, you have to be able to talk to people.
Yeah, that's entirely expected behavior for someone who's a complete stranger. Fetlife isn't a great solution when you're a complete fish out of water to a given community and know absolutely no one. And front loading with fetishes is probably not the greatest idea if the root goal is, "I need to meet people."

>>11408766
>Plus part of being an adult is recognizing when you need to move on.
Never was there in the first place, if only getting old didn't suck so much
>Being a neet gooner is more of a mind set than a life style if you're not 20.
The viability of being a neet gooner is entirely determined by your physical condition
>You find ways of indulging in the lifestyle while conceding that you have to operate in normie space to make a living, because you don't qualify for autism bux and even if you did you recognize that it ain't worth it when you're able bodied and have a relatively decent career.
I've never found my career to be anything more than a cope

>>11409646
>I've never found my career to be anything more than a cope
Your career is what you do to make money to enjoy the rest of your life. It's not a cope, it is supposed to be 100% utilitarian. Almost no one finds fulfillment in their job. Pretty much the only reason I work in IT is because it gets me WFH and it pays well enough and unlike many career tracks it is relatively license-agnostic.
>Never was there in the first place, if only getting old didn't suck so much
Getting old is a privilege, not something to resent. Or at least that's my position. Having three friends die on me did change my perspective, though. Honestly if you're feeling anxious about the fact that you no longer have the luxury of time and can't bullshit yourself about your age any longer you need to expand your social network. Money and careers aren't fulfilling, people are. And shut-in neet gooners / goonettes deserve that as much as anyone else.
>The viability of being a neet gooner is entirely determined by your physical condition
Honestly the version of it where you're collecting neet bux sucks. You're only making exactly enough to make ends meet, which is why I avoided that lifestyle. You're one bad month away from losing everything and being out on the streets.

>>11409436
>You find goonettes in places not explicitly set aside for kinks. You'll find them in places like book reading groups, handicraft groups and generalized weeb-adjacent hobbies
I'm trying to think of which places like these I'd gone to in the like, two or three years before I met my bf.
I had a book club, but it was just my own friend group, at my or one friend's house.
I went to one smaller anime convention near my college.
I go to game stores and stuff, but I haven't ever like, played anything there.
Unless I'm forgetting something, I think that's it?
I've THOUGHT about going to things like that before, and there was a hentai convention a little over a year ago I almost went to but had a scheduling conflict. But yeah.