>>2885509 (OP)
SPS/SM exercise

>>2885509 (OP)
Noose around the neck

>>2885509 (OP)
There is a book called "The Back Mechanic" - it's not bad.

>>2885509 (OP)
Spine extension, look what streches you need to do.
Rest.
Walking.
NOT putting unnecesary load on your back.
NOT repeating damaging move.
Rest.
Sometimes injections of anti-inflammatory.

T. Had it so bad I started not feeling what's below the belt and han an operation.

Do not take this lightly, it could fuck you up real bad.

If you treat it before it's too damaged/chronic you can 100% get back into its original shape.

>>2885527
Or, the “The Back Doctor”
It opens with “the back was made to work”

My back and neck eventually healed so I’m not in pain all the time, but it’s easily injured. It took years before my day-to-day was normal.
Walking a lot (e.g. to and from work) helped a lot.
(Instead of lying down all the time).
I’m now an inch shorter though.

Billions of people can't be wrong

>>2885509 (OP)
>Go to a physiotherapist
>DPP yoga
>regular exercise as mentioned

>>2885509 (OP)
I am a physical therapist student and I'd say to keep moving your body even if it hurts, keep it active, do extensions of the back, no need to rest, just move it :D

>>2885509 (OP)
Boron supplementation and collagen.

I had a herniated disk after I jumped off from 1m+ height and didn't absorb the shock by using my legs as springs. I cured it by doing nothing because my body isn't a retard.

>>2885509 (OP)
OP even though this anon is probably joking around, after working on lift trucks for the past 17 years and only stopping for 2 years to drive a taxi just so I could see the outside world, but then returned because forklifting really is one of those "Remember, You're Here Forever" jobs even if you move up to rough terrain or get a CDL and start trucking....it's the same industry until you have your Matrix moment and realize that EVERYTHING is directly tied to moving things out of or into a thing so the thing can then be moved to another place where things get moved out of or into it.

With that said, I have horrifying back, neck, and shoulder pains....like DAMN. I've done everything and the only ONLY thing that alleviates it is sleeping on a good mattress. BUT! Easier said than done! I can't go to sleep if I'm in extreme pain, and even if I manage, the pain will just wake me up in 2 hours...So you're not going to like this, but M-Th I take 4g Kratom and then just drink until I pass out. In the morning I take 2g of Kratom for work and it lasts me like literally 8 hours where I'm pain free, but as soon as I get home I'm in pain again. Friday I tough through it and just live in pain all weekend long.

Coworker tells me to go see a chiropractor...but. Well, I just haven't.

>>2885509 (OP)
Fucked my back up squatting way too much weight in my early 20s, this is all that helped.
https://youtu.be/gDQNqZMv1V0?si=UyZHC7ZL-nfrbaiL

Do it 3-5x a week to start and then keep up with it after you stop hating your life.

Other options:
Muscle relaxers
Booze
Opiates

They don't solve anything, just temporary relief.

>>2888729
>push through pain
>dont rest it
>back extensions for every case
Kys
>>2885509 (OP)
Exercise-rest-exercise-res. Listen to your body. Train hard but gently and adjust no matter how much strength you’re used to using and the ways you’re used to using it in. And…

PATIENCE!!!!! I can’t stress that enough. You’re going to need to find what is right and wrong for you. I read on a back pain subbredit a post that said you’re going to have to become an optimistic asshole about back issues. It’s true.

I herniated a disk last April and I’m still recovering because it stopped my exercise which exacerbated problems in my core and legs which now feeds my back problems. I’m definitely improv but it’s also definitely taking time. I have a friend who works his ass off to pay for toys he dosent need and has no time/desire to do exercises. He’s on his second back surgery at 46. Don’t be that guy.

>>2889412
Even with a smiley face, and the fact that you're here in the first place, and you still go with
>Kys
?

You're the idiot. Go back.

I drive a lift truck 12 hours a night….driving into a freezer and then backing out. Over and over and over again. Now recently if I turn my head too far to the right or left it feels like an electric bolt is shooting up my head from my C2 (or axis vertebrae). An old timer told me to cut all the junk food and eat a lot of fish and decent vegetables, and to not stress out on my off time…and I’m noticing a significant difference. When I say “old timer” I mean “OLD TIMER” because he’s like 79 and I’m 42 but he looks like he’s a really really tired 50. The dude eats like no junk food, doesn’t drink or smoke, and told me that when he’s not working he’s either sleeping or watching movies or anything that makes him relax. He like doesn’t stress about anything ANYTHING at all.

I want to be more like him. Just wanted to share that.

>>2889454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyuA2BTfcnA

This surgeon started noticing patients getting better without surgeries and quit his job.

The list goes something like
>good sleep
>no/low stress
>have people that care/love in your life
>not too much salt
>fruits, vegetables
>low (red?) meat consumption
>stuff that makes you fart
>exercise and doing things that make you sweat
>no drugs
>no alcohol

>>2889422
>go back
I would but your mom stopped honoring her two for one deal. Recession is putting the bite on everyone I guess.

>>2889474
>stuff that makes you fart
Avoid it or ingest it??

>>2885509 (OP)
Sphynx pose and rest until you can move, proper form deadlifts without any weights once you can move, basically squats with a stiff back. Light deadlifts 60,70,80lbs once you're back to strength. Never do heavy deadlifts or try to increase your weight more than 10lbs from your last weight. All it takes is one bad lift to fuck you up again.

>>2889540
His idea is to eat stuff that promotes gut health. So fermented foods, yoghurt, kimch, etc.

reduce body weight if you are a fat person, that's the first thing.

4 years ago I fell from a horse and the blow was so bad that I herniated a disc.

Constant pain for months. I never took medication, but sleeping on the hard floor without a pillow (or a very small one) helped me a lot. I woke up every day practically without pain... however the pain was increasing throughout the day.


Now, 4 years later, I don't feel pain, just discomfort. And when I walk, when I take a step with my right leg, my spine cracks haha

But the pain is minimal compared to what it was. I can live as if it never happened.


try it, make an effort... it's not that bad

Sometimes I wonder if the rack might feel good up to a certain point.

>>2885509 (OP)
yoga and nopillow

>jefferson curls
>zerchers
>deficit deadlifts
>side bends
>minimum effective dose to start then a slow progression scheme like double progression

>>2885509 (OP)
You could always try what my mother in law does
>spend most days doing nothing
>once a month carry heavy things up and down stairs with a jerking lifting motion(refuse help)
>get a doc to pill you up
>run my microwave hours a day warming a heat pack to scalding temps
Oh and
>tons of coffee, cigarettes and Gatorade (its got health electrolytes)
That seems to be working good for her.
My dad would strengthen his back muscles and that always helped with his disc problems. But its a painful process to get there.

>>2889359
Kratom is great. My state wants to ban it because some druggie OD with 10 other drugs in his system. I use it for my tendonitis and back pain. I went to a chiropractor a few months ago. It definitely did something but it wasn't like an instant fix.

>>2890176
>Kratom is great
Whoa Whoa! I'm the anon that posted the Kratom recommendation on Thursday. I under no circumstances meant to suggest it to be a "FIX" for a serious back problem like a herniated disc in your spine, or any other pain for that matter. At least not in the long term. I just meant to say that it could be a quick hack job until you find a job that's less labor intensive on your back. See a doctor and do it right.

There's several problems with Kratom
>It IS addicting
Don't listen to the redditors that claim that they've been on it for years with no problem. It's an opioid; you WILL build a tolerance to it and need more and more. People that say it's not are just vendors shilling their product.

>You don't know what you're actually getting
There's so many people taking this shit that I find hard to believe that they can get this stuff to your front door in 2 days without them cutting it with something. Supply is low and demand is high. Even if they cut it with dirt...or green tea, eventually some lead is going to get in there (to increase the weight).

>You're going to hurt yourself further
That's like pain killer 101. If the pain goes away but the root problem isn't solved then you're going to move in ways that you wouldn't move if the pain was there, which will make the problem worse, and then you'll have more pain when you stop taking it.

The "DIY" for this problem is to literally go see a doctor and see if physical therapy or changes to your diet, weight, lifestyle, and even work might mitigate the problem. I work with a guy in his 80s and he just lives with the pain....like he tells me he'd miss it if it was gone. Everybody's different, and that's why you need to get specialized attention.

Sadly when it comes to pain management, you really do have to go to the dealership and pay for OEM parts...best wishes bro.

>clasp hands at back of neck
>bring elbows together
>push up using arms and shoulders

Are inversion tables any good? Maybe not for fixing spinal problems, but at least relieving pain/discomfort?

>>2885509 (OP)
My wife had two vertebrae and a disc replaced, I probably would get that professionally done though. she's been great ever since

>>2885509 (OP)
with proper spinal support the pain should subside-
>try pic related

>>2889665
I herniated two discs in a car wreck. Sleeping on the floor helped a lot.

I ran machines and drove all over thru covid, i had issues before but thats what ruined me

Got sick of living out of hotels, do maintenance now at a hotel ironically. The pain has changed and is more manageable, but i still am like 3 years into awful pain and 2 years into chiro every two weeks.
I couldnt move and was in pain, now I can move, but my right side sciatic nerve still makes every day about it

>>2885513
>type this in youtube
>first video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RvtV3SMmak&t=274s

>>2885509 (OP)
movement
start working out, avoiding any movements that cause extreme / shooting pain
steroid injections and physio help
your body will eat the herniated disk material eventually and the core strength you develop will help prevent it from happening in the future
just have to be not a lazy fuck and get moving my man, full body dynamic exercise

>>2885509 (OP)

>>2885509 (OP)
These two channels have been helping me out a lot so far. Will take a very long time before you can do a lot of these exercises but you can heal and strengthen most tissue in your body. Be very careful not to injure yourself because that would undo a lot of progress

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzIgrFwhjPc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtXb2updm3I

>>2885509 (OP)
bump for insterest
Thanks to all who have been replying.

Fasting and prayer can fix almost anything
Jesus is King of kings

>>2885509 (OP)
Medical school and a shit ton of meth

>>2885509 (OP)
just extended rest and good food, that asian neurosurgeon said its as likely to heal on its own as it could with surgery

>>2891055
yes, they work great.
a company called Teeter makes a great inversion table.
you can even do hang-ups with it, work your abs.

>>2891069
They work for pain relief but your spine is extra vulnerable for a while afterwards so be careful. Overuse can weaken your spine so don't do it too often. You should also be strengthening your back with exercises to prevent this.

>>2885509 (OP)
Backs only get worse but there are MANY DIY ways to do DIY shit with a very bad back.

Don't lift heavy things by hand any more. That's the (faster) road to life-ruining chronic pain so intense it prevents sleep.

Do study (not glance at, study) subjects like rigging, manual, electric and other winches (to pull, lift and drag), and ways to make your tools and equipment (if OP doesn't have same others here do and all WILL eventually have a bad back).

Air bag jacks are glorious. I rarely use my heavy floor jack. A very cool DIY project is making an air bag jack from a big truck air bag. I use mine to place shipping containers for my shops and the small commercial Vevor 3-ton for typical jack shit. (Any smol compressor will do but I also use CO2 cylinders I keep for MIG welding and doing "power tank" stuff with tires.)

If you own a pickup truck you use for truck stuff, get a used liftgate which are simple to install (manufacturers sell bed adapters reasonably, or fab those if you weld) along with overload rear springs and boosters if you run a pickup. I use Hellwig leaves and Timbren urethanes.

OP can either force xirself to change how they work or end in misery.

>>2893633
It will be forever vulerable tho. Back pain reality over decades is horrid.

Goblet squats, romanian single leg deadlifts, crunches, pullups, pushups, anything that strenghtens your back and core in general, you obese weak fuck.

>>2893750
Backs only get worse because retards get hurt worse and then do less than ever before.
>my leg broke, guess I will walk less
>wtf, my leg is healed but so weak now, oh I know, I WILL NEVER WALK AGAIN
this is (You)

>>2892643
Is there a way to do reverse hypes without a dedicated apparatus? I have been suffering from sciatica for about 6 months and is don't think it's my spine, I think it's mainly my strength and flexibility. I can get really bad pain from my lower glutes down my leg when I sit in or drive my work truck for excessive time and it takes me a few minutes to get back to walking normally after getting out.

>>2894196
You can do hypes on a table in a pinch, otherwise pic related might help you

Listen to me carefully op.
Wim Hoff method. The breathing technique at the very least. You'll feel some results immediately, but keep practicing. I waited 15 fucking minutes to post this goddamned reply cause it's fucking important. Try it. Thy the breath work, try the ice baths. At least once

Yes. I also had a herniated disc. I started using the "petition" system of chiropractic and it saved my spine. No more bulged disc. I also stretch once or twice a week and i get a massage every month.


You can fix the problem.

>>2894349

typo, it's the Pettibon system

>>2894196
Stop being a fat fuck and work out and do yoga.

I have a herniated L4/l5, do this video 4-5x a week. It saved my life. Get Flexeril for yourself while symptoms are presenting, but keep stretching to get off it.

Also, do planks.

https://youtu.be/gDQNqZMv1V0?si=-DKBIWBgZnCeigao

apparently i have/had multiple herniated discs, L3,4,5 or something idk and inflamed facets, degenerated tissue ect.
i didnt even notice any of that lmaooo
i found that all out last week via mrt; got a year of physio therapy approved yesterday, 2 times per week
this week ill make an appointment and look out for a good therapist.

my doc told me that if you wanna fix this, you do physio/gymnastics everyday for atleast 30mins, better 1hr. (he does it 1 hour in the morning)
strengthening exercises,stretching exrecises and maintaining excrescics.
swimming 2 times per week.
NOT lifting anything above 5 kilo
NOT sitting for more than 30 mins at a time (30mins sitting, 30 mins standing)
sitting IS P O I S ON
that were his words

theres no way to DIY unfortunately, at least without risks. a physiotherapy specialist is rather important, because he/she will EXACTLY show and "feel" you how to do the excrecises, so you LEARN to do them PROPERLY and not damage you FURTHER. also you can ask questions

VITAMIN Bs for nerve inflamation/damage and xyz for joints? idk what to supplement to rebuild/repair and heal joints. maybe any anon can chime in?
you can heal, but it is work you have to do

>>2894952
edit its L2-3-4-5

>>2889474
The name od the surgeon?
Albert Einstein

>>2885509 (OP)
I think with a mirror, sharp knife, decent drill and steady hand you could come up with surgery.

>>2893750
It’s not how much you lift, it’s how you lift it. You can’t safeguard your back by getting weaker. You HAVE to lift and learn how to do it properly.
>>2894172
You’re a fucking moron who thinks a disc and a bone is apt comparison. Discs don’t get stronger with every hernia like a bone does every break you fucking moron.

use a massage tool to stimulate circulation and healing. not all back pain is in the center near the spine, I found a huge amount in the ribs and pelvic girdle areas

>>2885509 (OP)

>>2885509 (OP)
>help my dad move a big motor
>retard helpers fuck up and I end holding that shit by myself
>feel like something cracks on my back and then feel like a hot liquid spreads from my spine to all my back
>go home and take painkillers, sleep until next day
>can't get up from bed
>still do it and ask someone else to tie my shoes
>years later I now have a lumbar hernia, can't exercise properly anymore, end fucked up for days if I pickup a fucking 20lt water bottle
>dad refused to help me and tries to gaslight me that I had that shit way before working for him
Fuck everyone and everything

>>2885509 (OP)
Hate to be that guy but, Marijuana might be an option for you. Anti inflammatory, pain reducer, helps sleep if you don't over do it before bed, might be something to look into. Does wonders for me. Combine that with focused stretching and like that long posting anon said, a good bed. Personally, I like a firm bed, the soft ones always end up hurting my back more. Like trying to go for a run in fucking Dr Scholls when really you want a super thin shoe.

>>2885509 (OP)
https://youtu.be/gDQNqZMv1V0?si=wP2tN3JOV5VZ43xT

Do this as many times a week as you can until you feel better. And keep doing it.

I have a herniated L4/5 and it's the only thing that cured me. Flexeril is definitely helpful but you don't want to be on that shit for more than a few days. I still need it every now and again.

Other options are alcoholism and pain killers, I did that too, curing the cause of your pain is better.

>>2900285
I threw my back out picking up a tissue and then my ridiculously horny GF at the time wouldn't take no for an answer. Ended up not being able to walk for 3 days. Walking is pretty cool.

>>2898911
I haven't seen this but it makes sense.

This is your future. Once your disc is fucked it will never be the same again. I lived with a blown L4/5 & S1 disc for almost 10 years. It got so bad I couldn't feel my right leg.Stretching and spinal injections helped but those were all temporary fixes.

>>2900294
> flexeril
I got put on “skelaxin” is that similar?

I had terrible sciatica for about 10 years after a snowboarding injury, eventually it went away and I'm sorry but I don't know why. Walking, a good mattress, weight reduction and yoga/stretching maybe helped who knows.

But OP try this: get hold of CBD oil, and some DMSO. Mix them together (with clean hands) and rub where it hurts. I have a fucked ankle ligament right now and my little mixture works wonders when nothing else helps. Seriously, for topical pain relief this has been incredible, I'm almost looking forward to the next musculoskeletal injury.

"low back ability" on youtube, it helped me, but it will take months

>>2885509 (OP)
I was skating with my gf a couple months ago and I fell down, as I have some injury before I had severe pain that started to develop every other day to the point I couldn't stand or walk normally? how did I DIY solve it? I by chance jumped and I heard a loud crack in my back and I felt 40% improvements, so I went to the gym immediately and I used the pull bar and used my body weight while hanging by hands, resting and letting everything expand, I heard another crack, kept doing it for 10min, when I got back it was already 90% resolved, the next two days and I'm like how I was before, I guess there was some compression
try it

>>2885509 (OP)
BPC157 injections in the affected area followed by topical application of DMSO (Dimethyl sulfoxide).

Also consider an inversion table.

If you lift weights, stop deadlifting and squatting, switch to a reverse hyper for posterior chain and do wall squats on your toes for quads.

>>2885778
Looks familiar...

>>2892260
I feel like I need to bleach my eyes.

>>2885509 (OP)
just buy one of those and everyday do this before bed and on wake up.
remember jews will never give you a true solution besides poisoning yourself.

If you buy an inversion table use it with a belt so that you hang from your hips/top of your quads instead of your knees

Also they destroy your eyes

>>2909708
>Also they destroy your eyes
how the fuck does that work

>>2885509 (OP)
Those Asian massage ladies can actually give massages. At least if you’re fat and hairy enough.

>>2885509 (OP)
Core exercises and inversions.
>>2885527
Everyone I know with a bad back is fat and doesn't exercise.

>>2885509 (OP)
Supplement boron. Google: Nothing boring about boron

>>2889454
yea but you prolly just have bad posture and don't exercise
not that you aren't ~~~~relaxed~~~~ enough or whatever nonsense
stop impinging your nerves

just ordered picrel in hopes of it helping me fixing my fucked up spine (or at least some of it)

>>2885884
Can confirm - they can't

>>2885509 (OP)
They are lying to you. The pain industry is huge. Break out of their matrix and don’t waste any more time with “back pain”

>>2889540
Ingest the farts

These are tungsten carbide scriber pens, 4 for like $8
I have had crazy back problems and severe nerve damage in my neck. The neck one I can't solve. I'm in sharp pain from right side neck to shoulder literally 24/7 and every day I hope a truck smashes my fucking shit in.

But when other problems develop I am generally able to lay on my stomach, lightly poke two of these up and down until I find the area of extreme fuck, and then push these incredibly painful pinlike points into that area in a way that the whole surrounding muscle groups/bone is repulsed by the pure hypersensitivity of it and it has no where to go but back into correct alignment. I have solved at least 3 debilitating back problems with these and they never returned.
Note: I wouldn't have ever had to do this if midwestern doctors weren't worthless useless fuckpigs but after ten years of fighting this is what I was left with and the only thing that ever helped.

I fell off a horse 7 years ago. I fell on my butt while running really fast... when I fell I felt an electric shock and the next day I couldn't bend my body to sit up in bed. I had to roll over and crawl to the living room. Horrible...

Sleep on a flat surface, with a flat pillow and start lifting weights slowly as if you were an old woman with osteoporosis.

It takes years to get better. It never goes away, but it improves 85%

I can already have sex doggy style like a Neanderthal without feeling back pain.

>>2911485
That doesn't seem very safe.

I've been so9jf9a bunch of thoracic extensions and core exercises that helps

>>2885509 (OP)
I've been going to physical therapy for this and one helpful thing I've learned is that if you tense your belly muscles it takes some of the load off of your back

>>2913525
Like when you gotta pick something up or stand up or go up some stairs, tense em, it's a bit hard to learn though since it's also kinda similar to what you do when exhaling or trying to squeeze out a fart, lol
But I really don't want to throw my back out like I did on Saturday, I could barely move on Sunday, I'm never going to get my car fixed up if every time I work on it my back is fucked for the following two days!

>>2889359
Your coworker is a stupidass because chiros are 100% certified quacks.

The only and the ONLY things for real injuries are
>know your inujury's limit and NEVER exceed it
>stretches and exercise - legitimate routine you do 2-3x per week cycling based on load
>never stopping your physical therapy

The ONLY real way to keep a permanent injury at its best is to keep your muscles strong and your joints healthy. The two go hand in hand. You have to do both stretching, low intensity muscle exercise for the joints, and high intensity muscle building/maintenance for the muscles.
That is the only thing that works.

Chiro is retard shit. Chiro is women's (((essential oils))) and crystals and witch spells.

Stay fit stay healthy stay exercised.
Permanent injuries never go away or get better.
Being more fit reduces the strain on the injury.

diy.

>>2889865
I certainly does. I use it two times a day.