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Anonymous No.2919171 [Report] >>2919176 >>2919178 >>2919184 >>2919187 >>2919192 >>2919328 >>2919467 >>2919482
First circular saw, should I get a Mag77, Makita 5007, something else? Blade left or right? Is a brake something I'll miss or not?

Mostly going to be doing demolition and like, temporarily framing jigs and stands for other work. I realize it doesn't matter much but I figure I should buy once, cry once it.
Anonymous No.2919176 [Report] >>2919594 >>2922096
>>2919171 (OP)
Ask your dad.
Anonymous No.2919178 [Report] >>2919180 >>2919193
>>2919171 (OP)
Are you always going to have access to a power main? Do you have long-enough 12ga 15amp+ rated extension cords?
Blade left or right doesn't matter, it's a regional thing and each has its advantages and disadvantages, most people get to own one of each at least anyway eventually. Most 6.5" ones are blade left nowadays, whether corded or cordless, most 7.25" ones are blade right. Most wormdrive or wormdrive style hand on the rear are blade left.
Cordless has finally caught up in terms of output power to corded 1500-1650W 15amp corded saws, but only if you get the top of the line from the major brands, and only if you get them with the larger, newer, more expensive high output tabless 6-12ah batteries (in case of 18V/20V platforms, convert accordingly for 36V/40V/60V).
Brakes are very nice, but on corded brushed models, they wear out the commutator and brushes faster (because essentially it is sending reverse power to stop the motor) and potentially wear out the windings faster too. On cordless, brushless models, you can't really find them without brakes anymore, and it isn't a hindrance the way it would be on corded or cordless brushed models.
Makita 5007, whether the magnesium models like 5007MG/MGA or the aluminum ones, are basically not ever going to die on you, and are very heavy too (both an advantage and a disadvantage). They were the standard across North America for the past 25+ years on construction sites. Nowadays, they've almost all gone cordless. In many parts of (Western) Europe, you're not even allowed on the site with a corded saw anymore.
My personal recommendation is a Makita 5007MGA (or MG if you don't want the brake) for the blade-right 7.25" model that will handle everything you want it to handle, as well as a high powered cordless 6.5" model with blade-right for the easier to handle and carry nature of it, and the odd job without available electricity main.
Anonymous No.2919180 [Report]
>>2919178
>cordless 6.5" model with blade-right
I meant blade-left* here

Or alternatively, if you are willing to sacrifice blade choice variety, get the 5008MGA with the 8.25" blades for a little more depth but more or less the same size and weight as the 5007MGA.
Anonymous No.2919184 [Report]
>>2919171 (OP)
I know people do it, but demolition with this style of skilsaw circular saw seems stupid and dangerous. There are demolition circular saws for that. And there are also sawzall/recip saws for that.
Anonymous No.2919187 [Report]
>>2919171 (OP)
Makita hypoid(steel not mag) would be my choice. Mag77 or 5007 will both last you a lifetime, you can't go wrong with either. I own all three and have run crews framing with them.
Anonymous No.2919192 [Report] >>2919230
>>2919171 (OP)
We call them all skilsaws for a reason.
Anonymous No.2919193 [Report] >>2919195 >>2919198
>>2919178
> Are you always going to have access to a power main
All battery operated tools use technology that was developed for and by amateur dildo enjoyers.
Anonymous No.2919195 [Report]
>>2919193
same reason a lot of europeans call all grinders "flex".
Anonymous No.2919198 [Report]
>>2919193
if you did any real contracting job in recent years anywhere that is a major urban center in the US or in Europe, you'd know they want those amateur dildo enjoyers on site and no real men who use corded tools.
Anonymous No.2919230 [Report] >>2919233
>>2919192
>On August 23, 2016, Chervon (HK) Ltd., a power tool manufacturer based in Nanjing, China, agreed to acquire the SKIL brand from the Bosch Power Tools division, which gave them control over the SKIL businesses in both North America and the European market.

Too bad they are chinese dogshit now. Better to get an old one and learn how to service it.
Anonymous No.2919233 [Report] >>2919482
>>2919230
They were already dogshit under Bosch when the production moved to China for the Skilsaw brand. There's a reason even westcoast builders moved to Makita 5007.
Anonymous No.2919328 [Report] >>2919482
>>2919171 (OP)
that's a big saw
Anonymous No.2919467 [Report] >>2919474
>>2919171 (OP)
ive always had old wormdrive saws and theyve treated me well. i finally bought this used shillwaukee saw a few months ago and all i can saw is god damn where haveyoubeenall my life. weights 2/3rds what a corded saw does. has as much or maybe a bit more power than corded and can easily do a half day project on a single 6ho battery charge. i feel like im cheating on my old saws but its so fucking convenient for a cut or 2
Anonymous No.2919474 [Report] >>2919483
>>2919467
I assume that's the 2830? It's powerful alright. I recently got to try the 2930 that they have coming out soon, and holy fucking shit it was so quick and powerful, it was terrifying. And somehow even lighter. But needs Forge batteries. https://www.milwaukeetool.com/2930-20
Anonymous No.2919482 [Report] >>2919519 >>2919525
>>2919171 (OP)
I'd go for a mag77 over anything else if you want corded. There are good cordless options too but only really worth it if you already have a platform you're rolling with and you still get way more bang for your buck with the mag77. $170 vs paying about $300 for a cordless and the mag77 will literally last decades, even the new chinkmade ones.

>>2919233
No one in California uses top handle saws bro wtf?

>>2919328
For you...
Anonymous No.2919483 [Report] >>2919491 >>2919525 >>2919614
>>2919474
Thirded. That milwaulkee fuel or forge line, i think they both use that new red lithium that only milwaulkee has. Probably comes from the planet mars. Mine’s about ten times more powerful than a corded saw. Runs longer than a corded, too! I’m probably going to buy a few more to support the U.S. economy. I bet my cybertruck uses the same battery and motor… both are incredible beasts.
Anonymous No.2919491 [Report]
>>2919483
poast your pristine b&d firestorm nicad beast you keep in your govt subsidized goybox apartment that your grandma got you as a housewarming gift. maybe someday youll get to use it to open a cardboard box thats just too difficult for your soft r*ddit hands. glad the resistance has you on their team
Anonymous No.2919519 [Report]
>>2919482
mag77 here

jealous of the mag77lt and the makita 16
Anonymous No.2919525 [Report] >>2919580 >>2919633
>>2919483
When was the last time you actually used a newer cordless skilsaw? They have become far more powerful and convenient. And it's not just a matter of convenience, a lot of jobsites outright don't allow corded circular saws now.
>>2919482
>California
other than small residential builds, the only 'rear handle left blade' saws I see now are either the 18V or 40V makita or M18 fuel milwaukee or dewalt 60V cordless wormdrive-"STYLE" skilsaws now.
Anonymous No.2919580 [Report] >>2919591 >>2919609
>>2919525
>a lot of jobsites outright don't allow corded circular saws now.

Is this written into law or something, or are you just spewing bullshit?
Anonymous No.2919591 [Report]
>>2919580
There's a chance that some job sites don't allow corded skill saws because they don't have an electric stop on them. But I've never heard of that and if it is true it's very rare. He is 100% spewing bullshit about rear handle left blade saws being uncommon in California, that's literally all any serious carpenter uses here. I generally use this metabo hpt saw, it's lighter than all the competition, but I still recommend the mag77 because it literally does anything, will never die and is like $100 cheaper than a cordless saw. I've used mine to make 3" cuts in concrete a bunch of times. AtI always have both on site, usually set up the mag77 on a table with saw horses and use it to rip ply or cut rafters.
Anonymous No.2919594 [Report]
>>2919176
Underrated post.
Anonymous No.2919609 [Report]
>>2919580
>Is this written into law or something,
It's a matter of policy for specific jobsites. Supposedly for the sake of safety by eliminating the need to run electrified tripping hazards everywhere.
Anonymous No.2919614 [Report]
>>2919483
>these damn kids dont know shit from shineola
>cordless saw are toy for little girls
>when real men need to build something they hitch their saw up on the back of a real pickup
>for me its a 345 powered intertrashional 1 ton that does 40 mph to the job getting 4 mpg
>only pussies want air conditioning and fag shit like heated mirrors and seats
>these sallys probably think 2 bud 24s isnt a square meal either. easy to carry in you nail belt too
>dont even get me started on this modern homosexual fad of nail guns
Anonymous No.2919633 [Report] >>2921922 >>2921958
>>2919525
> don't allow corded circular saws now
Nor should they. Most zoomers getting on to sites nowadays wouldn’t be able to lift one, nor know how to turn them on. They’d puzzle over the plug end wondering what kind of new usb plug it was.
Don’t give them anything sharp either, and don’t let them work in the sun.
Anonymous No.2921922 [Report]
>>2919633
do you really want zoomers to die?
Anonymous No.2921958 [Report] >>2922368 >>2922391
>>2919633
Potential site workers using saws need to get their testosterone levels checked and meet minimum weight requirements (and other such measurables).
But we all know, you can tell just by lookin’ at ‘em.
Anonymous No.2922096 [Report]
>>2919176
>Ask your dad.

if OP is black, this wont be possible
Anonymous No.2922368 [Report]
>>2921958
>minimum weight requirements
what should that be
Anonymous No.2922391 [Report]
>>2921958
is this real