Again.

Sounds like operator error to me.

>>2919576
>be gasoline that has 3x more components than something electric
>be surprised that it breaks down AGAIN

STIHL AP 300 HERE FUCK YOU

>put ethanol filled fuel in a 2 stroke motor
>don't use it for a month
>surprised when it starts getting messed up

Make sure there is fuel in it. Use some of that two stroke premade. It costs more but fuck ethanol.
Prime it 3-10 times. Doesn't really matter since once the diaphram is full it'll just be pumped back to the tank.
Put it on choke and pull till it fires.
Switch to full with about half throttle.
If it dies, put on full then pull until it fires again.
Warm it up a couple seconds before going full throttle and working it.
This will start every small two stroke.

>>2919567 (OP)
These little fuckers are annoying as shit. They want to shave to the last millionth of a penny making them and you end up needing a very complicated maintenance that often requires 3 fucking hands.

>>2919600
Until it doesnt start, and then you have to go and change the spark plug and pray that is the problem, if not prepare to take that fucking carburator apart and clean it.

>>2919602
It will start with these instructions every time. As long as you are not retarded, and there is not something wrong with the whacker. Ethanol fuel rots the fuel lines on these and can cause all sorts of other problems like gumming up the carb. Both of these are user error.
I've had ethanol fuel rot the fuel lines on all of my power equipment to the point that I now go to a special gas station just to get ethanol free fuel for them and stopped having problems.
The really annoying one was the chainsaw and rebuilding the fuel system on it since the lines rotted off and the carb was gummed up.

>>2919567 (OP)
I'm glad I grew up and just got the 40v shit they have at Home Depot. No more mixing gas, fucking around with carburetors, yanking the cord a million times and having to clear it out when it floods. Just smack the battery in and get to work. A million times quieter too and my hands won't be vibrating for an hour afterwards.

>put in fresh bats
>it just fucking works
Sorry, OP, I don't know that feel. I took a $200 step into the world of electric, cordless tools and I'm never fucking going back. No longer will I sit there in my front yard pulling on a string while the neighbors look on and laugh. No more will I prime, mix fuel and oil, spend way too much on premixed fuel and oil, take apart a carb smaller than my penis, mess with tiny set screws and adjustments, worry about old fuel, worry about fuel lines disintegrating, worry about stupid tiny little fucking fuel filters clogging, have to mess with spart plugs, have to check compression, have to rebuild the recoil starter, have to burn by thighs/side with hot exhaust, have to deal with the noxious fumes of 2 stroke exhaust, have to wear ear plugs because of how loud the stupid thing is, have to wear gloves due to the vibrations....
No... I simply put the bats in and go.... Bliss...

>>2919670
more plastic crap to landfill

crappy consumer tool after crappy consumer tool
>grew up

>>2919567 (OP)
Make sure the fuel is fresh.
Take off the air filter and spray some carb cleaner or oven cleaner in the bowl.

There is a steel mesh screen at the exhaust. Pull ot out and clean it. You can use a propane torch to burn off the carbon.

>>2919601
As much as I like totally sick 2-stroke bikes, fuck the handheld things. They are complete trash and there's no reason Mr Stihlnose couldn't have figured out EFI, ultralight starter motors and proper ignition systems by now in the Niggawhipper 9000. But no, he's a cheap cunt and you will be tied forever to the stupid piece of string, yankin it like the time you found tits on the internet

>>2919567 (OP)
clean the sparkplug. Remove the carborator and check the condition of the seal between it and the piston head.

>>2919567 (OP)
Replace the carb every two years you dunce

I have 6 Stihl string trimmers, 4 chainsaws, a backpack blower, and a post hole digger, and one husqvarna concrete saw. I run normal gas (probably 10% ethanol or some bullshit) and Stihl 2 stroke mix oil through them. Every single one of them will start up in ~ 3 pulls if you follow proper starting procedure.

Hell the last couple string trimmers I bought used for pennies on the dollar and I just went through them cleaning them up a bit and fixing a couple little things and they run like a top now. It's like no one even knows how to service anything anymore.

>>2919729
>There is a steel mesh screen at the exhaust. Pull ot out and clean it. You can use a propane torch to burn off the carbon.

I just pull it out and toss it.

>>2919746
oldheads get it

>>2919567 (OP)
Same here.
Ill tell my brother to get a makita one because he has all the batteries already.

>>2919567 (OP)
use a good premix

>>2919691
Could that thing cut through invasive blackberry?

>>2919916
idk probably

i dont know what it is but i fucking love cleaning carbs

>>2919691
> $200
Holy, that’s $200 for one battery.
That setup is like 1k then.
Id rather buy crack and smoke it

>>2919691
Operator error, the post.

>>2919939
>Holy, that’s $200 for one battery.
>That setup is like 1k then.
>Id rather buy crack and smoke it
Lol. Meanwhile I have two used Stihl FS56rc trimmers that I have less than $100 into for the pair that will run all day long and start first pull every time. Must really suck to be a wrenchlet that can't handle maintaining small engines.

>>2919939
>gascucks are crackheads: confirmed
>>2919952
>dude just own a small engine shop and pull yourself up by the bootstraps and be gifted expensive things by everyone and never have to work for a dollar and spend multiple hours a week babying some shitty 2 smoke engine and buy the special fuel which isn't available outside of hicksville, USA and pray to the moon god at dusk on the first clear morning of every month and MAYBE you're shitty whipper snipper will run for more than 15 minutes at a time
Yeah, nah, I'm sticking with something that just fucking werks™

>>2920155
Mexican landscapers use them all over the place, are you saying you're less competent than mexicans?

>>2920188
Call ICE, Mexicans everywhere

>>2920155
Post those soft wrenchlet hands.

>>2920155
heyyy soft wrenchlet hands girrrrl
what's cookin' sweeaty

>>2919691
it doesn't even have a blade

I've done nothing anyone in this thread recommends. I've had the same cheap Bohlens weed whacker, leaf blower, and lawn mower for 8 years. Least possible amount of maintenance done, regular ass gas at 10% ethanol, and whatever the cheapest oil is on the walmart shelf. I've never used premade because I'm not a fucking idiot willing to pay 10x for gasoline.

>half the posters are recommending and praising battery tools
Just say you don't understand 2 stroke engines. Its fine. They're easy to understand but difficult to master. Theres no shame in it, but don't blame the tool when the user is too dumb to use it.

>>2919567 (OP)
forgot where the fucking exhaust on these is

>>2919567 (OP)
tear the carburetor apart and clean it.

>>2919796
This is my experience as well. All this bitching about ethanol yet all my Stihl shit runs on pump gas and Stihl brand oil that I mix myself and I have no issues at all.

>>2920737
>This is my experience as well. All this bitching about ethanol yet all my Stihl shit runs on pump gas and Stihl brand oil that I mix myself and I have no issues at all.

Anything I have ever had that wasn't Stihl caused me problems with the carburetors. But most of that stuff also has those shitty foam air cleaners at best. I'm a firm believer that Stihl equipment has some of the best air filters systems on their stuff and it actually keeps the junk out and keeps you from having carb problems constantly.

>>2920761
>But most of that stuff also has those shitty foam air cleaners at best.
Most people never re-oil that foam so its basically useless after the first season or if you use it in very dusty areas.

I just used my Milwaukee Chainsaw for the first time and it was so nice being on a ladder. I just pulled the trigger to trim up a bunch of limbs. Fuck pulling a cord 50 times to cut a 3 inch limb

>>2920726
Ice cold water flush for at least 30 min immediately on that would've drastically reduced the size of that.

>>2921137
>Fuck pulling a cord 50 times
learn to adjust a carburetor dumbass.
even a worn out old walmart poulan will start under 5 pulls when tuned up

>>2919567 (OP)
last year, the second to the last time i did yard work my 2 stroke leaf blower quit. i fucked with it for 2 days and said fuck it ill get another or a new carb next year. yesterday i was doing yard work and i was like ill edge and wack lol if the fuckin blower starts and it just started no problem

FUEL STABILIZER
USE IT
IT'S CHEAP AND EFFECTIVE

>can't rtfm and adjust two screws on the carb
>hurr durr, the magic wall juice dispenser 'just works'
I am surprised that you aren't dead yet, a testament to far smarter individuals in the past carefully curating society for their inept grandchildren that would have been carried off by wild animals if they were born a century sooner.

>>2922320
If they was so smrt, why did they raise they grankids wrong and dumb?

>>2922329
Dammit, forgot my image. I really am dumb!

>>2922330
>knockoff chonda 4 stroke lawnmower carb
>thread about 2 stroke weed eaters

>>2919916
can confirm Milwaukee's does. If it's a really thick hardwood stalk, may need hedge trimmer.

They make 4 stroke trimmers. You have to store them a certain way to keep the oil in place but they start every single time and are quieter. Very much worth it.

>>2921137
>Chainsaw
>being on a ladder
I'd say the chances of you dying or loosing a limb are pretty high
Be careful

>old gas

>>2919693
It's not heading to the landfill anytime soon.

>>2922619
>It's not heading to the landfill anytime soon.
It will one day

>>2922622
scrap yard actually, same place the gas trimmers go

>>2922610
>They make 4 stroke trimmers. You have to store them a certain way to keep the oil in place but they start every single time and are quieter. Very much worth it.
No, no they are not. Had a cub cadet 4 stroke with the crankcase oil and hated that damn thing. I have a stihl 4 mix which is basically a 4 stroke that still runs on 2 stroke mix and doesn't have the crankcase oil reservoir to leak all over the place. It's ok. A bit more torque at lower rpms, but I still prefer 2 stroke string trimmers.

>>2919567 (OP)
I have three weed wackers that don't work now, I got so fed up with weed wacker #3 running fine and then dying every time I pulled the trigger that I just gave up, put it at the end of the garage, and drove straight to Harbor Freight to buy an electric one. I don't even need batteries, I already have two 5AH batteries.
And yes, I did adjust the carburetor screw, it did nothing at all to help. Neither did the new air filter.

>>2919693
>more plastic crap to landfill
>his municipality doesn't burn all household trash to generate electricity.
Or alternatively
>he doesn't take the 20 minutes to tear it apart to separate the recyclable components

Please use the stupid questions thread to avoid clogging the catalog with begging threads

>>2919567 (OP)
I'm glad my lawn crap has stickers confirming their asinine startup process
>push fuel balloon 10 times and apply full choke
>pull cord 20 times
>move choke to half push fuel balloon 15 more times
>pull cord 25 times
>close choke hold trigger and attempt to start 25 times
>restart from beginning

>>2919604
how does ethanol rot the fuel lines?

>>2924646
>I do not understand how carburetors or fuel delivery works.

>>2925792
I don't know the science behind it but it causes them to become brittle and crack eventually just becoming dust if bothered. If you can get ethanol free gas this won't happen.

>>2925825
what if you just replace the lines with silicone tubing? Wouldn't that nullify the problems of having the gas sitting in there?

>>2925830
It would only solve the problem for the fuel lines if silicone is resistant to ethanol, the carb and the rest of the engine would still have ethanol gunk hanging around.

>>2925793
>disassembly and carb cleaning is the first step
thanks

>>2926108
It isn't. My weed whacker, lawn mower, and leaf blower have never had their carbs removed or cleaned and they're going on year 8. I use 10% ethanol (regular 86 octane) fuel except when I put them away for storage.
1.Push fuel button 10 times or more. It doesn't matter and the machine isn't counting.
2. Full choke, hold the throttle wide open and pull like an adult man. You want crankshaft speed to suck fuel into the engine past the carb. This should only take 2-4 pulls before you hear/feel the engine almost try to start.
3. Half choke, open throttle, pull like a MAN again. When it turns over let it rev up a little but release throttle and let it idle for a few seconds, you may begin working.
4. After about 45 seconds (the machine doesn't know) it should be warm enough to turn the choke off.

Most pull start engines don't start people people don't pull with actual speed. They pull like they're gooning at hour 14 in an effort to reach the goal but never actually starting the engine.

I don't even do special maintenance; run it dry at the end of the season, put ethanol free fuel (with oil mix) in the tank. Start it for about a minute, clear out the lines of any ethanol fuel, top up the tank so theres as little air as possible. Leave the piston at TDC (some use preservation oil at this step too), air blow out the air filter, check the spark plug and maybe use a steel brush on it. Thats the secrets to all small engines.

>>2919757
Most issues are the impulse system, Some have a separate type that go straight to the head/crankcase. If the crank seals go bad or fall out this will also cause the impulse system to fail.

>>2919593
Go ahead and count all the components on the circuit boards and get back to us.

>>2925792
Ethanol isn't great for nitrile which is a low cost gasoline resistant rubber that is commonly used.

>>2925832
once the gunk is cleaned out I don't see how ethanol would be particularly damaging or corrosive to metals provided that the lines have been replaced with something not as susceptible to ethanol damage like >>2927146 said

>>2919916
>invasive blackberry
You can install blades onto trimmers. They do the job with thicker brush.

>>2927152
The gunk comes from the ethanol itself at that point. Sure the line won't break down from the ethanol, however that doesn't stop the ethanol from gunking up everything it passes through. If you drain the fuel system and fire up your device and run it until it dies from no fuel it will greatly reduce the maintenance you have to perform. Especially if you're going to be putting it away for the winter. For something you'll use regularly, just shut the fuel off if you can and let it run till it empties the bowl. For a weed whacker the best you can do is put only a little fuel in it and run it then empty the tank into a can when done then start it up till it runs out.
Alternatively, use ethanol free fuel.

>>2921314
I find for most burns they heal faster and blister less if I avoid the cold water or ice. The water or ice makes them feel better short term, but for this body is the wrong thing to do.

I find they do to like being left to sit, I have a feeling that once you turn it off, the fuel left in the carby evaporates and leaves behind residue of 2 stroke oil in the carby galleries, which goes hard in time and gums it up.

>>2919693
Ok boomer

>>2919952
>Must really suck to be a wrenchlet that can't handle maintaining small engines
Wow that’s really impressive and in ten years that will be as useful as mechanical typewriter repair.

>>2927487
>Wow that’s really impressive and in ten years that will be as useful as mechanical typewriter repair.
Lol. I bet you think the world will end before then anyways due to "global warming." Small gas engines will still be around and doing work long after your bullshit plastic electric crap falls apart and becomes the next hazardous waste to fill the landfills.

>>2927597
Cool schizo post

Gas is the ultimate retard filter.
>run it empty at the end of the season
>put gas in it
>just werks
I got my new lawn mower out of the trash, walked it back in flip flops, drained the water out the carb, had to clean it again because I didn't completely get all the corrosion out of the jets so it stuttered a bit a month afterwards. Second season,starts first pull, skill issue.

The Ryobi 40v weed whacker is weak compared to gas. What is a good electric?

Ethanol has been mentioned 24 times itt, I’m going to say it again, ethanol is the problem. We struggled with our chainsaw for years before being told to use ethanol free and it just fucking works now. Fucking farmer shitters fucked everything, get ethanol free if you can find it.

how retarded would an electric weedwhacker, but power corded to a generator be?

>>2919567 (OP)
Already been said, but fresh fuel, probably carb clean too. I play with 2-stroke bikes and ethanol fuel is trash. The fuel works great for fuel injection but with carbs it gets all gummy and fucks the jets and flots and shit. Literally if it sits for 2 weeks here it starts to cause trouble.

Also I've found with sticky motors they would rather kill you with exhaust and noise than start cold. I leave mine in the sun for half an hour after taking it from the garage and then it starts in half the effort.

>>2919567 (OP)
That's I love my honda, that shit just works

>>2926116
hmm. I probably didn't understand fuel delivery.

I get fuel/air/spark and always rip the cord, but mentally I'm just flip flopping "it's probably flooded" and "probably no gas in the cylinder." And the choke I'm pure guessing, that's why I'm successful being forced to follow the sticker.

So force feed fuel until engine hints at life. Half choke to start. Give it air and go to work.

I will try this on my three lawn tools and report back.

>>2927660
Lol thats golden coming from someone that claims small engines will be a thing of the past in 10 years... Go take your meds.

>>2927820
>I'm just flip flopping "it's probably flooded"
You basically by design cannot flood a 2 stroke small engine so stop worrying about conditions that cannot happen. You could push the primer bulb 50 times and it won't adversely effect starting it. You'll waste a little fuel but unless you're crazy nobody pushes it that many times. Some bulbs 10 is too few, and others 10 is pretty decent, they're shitty little bulbs so who knows.

I hope you gave it some practice and report back soon!

>>2927890
>take your meds
Sure thing chief, as soon as you show me where I said
>small engines will be a thing of the past in 10 years
I was being a bit hyperbolic but yes, dipshit, in 10-15 years it will be extremely unusual to find gas engines on new lawn equipment. Commercial lawn equipment may be more like 20-25. I never said they wouldn’t exist. I never said anything about the engines themselves, my reading comprehension challenged friend. The average person will have no use for the knowledge to repair them, or someone who does.

The internal combustion engine is going extinct for the general public. You can all cry about it as loud as you want but it’s going to happen anyway. Change is part of life so stop being a massive pussy about it.

>>2927975
I specifically said:
>Must really suck to be a wrenchlet that can't handle maintaining small engines.

You replied with:
>Wow that’s really impressive and in ten years that will be as useful as mechanical typewriter repair.

Which implies that in 10 years being able to repair a small engine will be a thing of the past. We can derive one of these things from this retarded statement. Either:

A) There will be practically no more small engines to work on in 10 years.
B) All small engines will be maintenance free within 10 years.
C) There will be no people left in 10 years to use or work on small engines.

All of which are inherently false and retarded, with the most likely scenario of those three actually being option C.

>>2927975
>I was being a bit hyperbolic but yes, dipshit, in 10-15 years it will be extremely unusual to find gas engines on new lawn equipment. Commercial lawn equipment may be more like 20-25. I never said they wouldn’t exist. I never said anything about the engines themselves, my reading comprehension challenged friend. The average person will have no use for the knowledge to repair them, or someone who does.

Nice backpedal. The average person doesn't own any heavy equipment either, so therefore being a heavy equipment mechanic is no longer a viable living come 2035 as well right? You see how retarded that sounds? You are an imbecile.

>>2927975
>The internal combustion engine is going extinct for the general public. You can all cry about it as loud as you want but it’s going to happen anyway. Change is part of life so stop being a massive pussy about it.

Lol. Check out this cope. Internal combustion isn't going anywhere anytime soon son.

>>2927890
They're already illegal in California and other chucked states and they're huge markets so it wrecks everything

>>2928140
>Which implies that in 10 years being able to repair a small engine will be a thing of the past.
I addressed this in my post so I stopped reading there. You obviously engage in bad faith arguments which I don’t engage with and seem to have misdirected anger caused by your closeted homosexuality.

>>2928308
> You obviously engage in bad faith arguments which I don’t engage with and seem to have misdirected anger caused by your closeted homosexuality.

>>2919567 (OP)
Dump that thing. Use electrons.

>>2919600
>Use some of that two stroke premade. It costs more but fuck ethanol.
this or get ethanol free or some VP 2 stroke fuel.

>>2928491
You guys are funny
>just buy some $20/gallon gasoline!
Whats the matter with you guys? Its just not necessary.

>>2928492
you destroy it without premix and VP 2 stroke fuel is worth it.

BE POOR ELSEWHERE MEXICAN

>>2928514
>you destroy it without premix and VP 2 stroke fuel is worth it.
Once again, my bohlens equipment is still buzzing along every weekend for the last 7 or whatever years I've had it. Regular Loves truckstop gasoline with 10% ethanol. Sounds like you have a skill issue.

>>2928517
sure thing pedro. you missed a spot by the way.

>>2919693

I worked at a local landfill and the metal scrap area was full of dead gas powered weed waters. And in a few years I only saw one battery powered one. I brought it home, popped a battery in it, and it works great and I've used it for several seasons now.

>>2919939

Ryobi batteries are the same components, but not jacked up in price for the name.

>>2919567 (OP)
so? take it back and get a replacement. don't use ethanol fuel ever. if it's two stroke make sure you rev the fuck out of it when it's working. If 4stroke run it out of fuel occasionally and make sure it always has oil.

>>2928924
Did everyone clap, too?

>>2928929
>Did everyone clap, too?
You know they did!

He could have also taken home all those gas powered weed-eaters and put some fresh fuel in them, maybe replaced a fuel line or two and cleaned the carb and 95% of them would have run and worked fine too.

It's almost as if people are lazy and throw things out without even trying to maintain or fix them.

>>2928140
>Internal combustion isn't going anywhere anytime soon son.

This. My job is repairing turf equipment, and we're backlogged two weeks because people don't take care of their shit, and nobody wants to work as a mechanic.
The battery stuff is out there, but it's a joke once you get to dealing with lawns larger than a postage stamp. They are also a PITA to deal with when they inevitably shit the bed.
We sell significantly more ICE units than electric.

>>2919598
most people use oil in their 2 stroke fuel, which usually has sta-bil already mixed in with it

>>2919939
$200 for a 5S2P battery pack with a BMS in it. What a load of shit.

>>2919604
Was really happy when a new fuel station by me started selling ethanol free. Use it for everything but the rider and new atv.

I can't believe people here are arguing for electric landscaping tools. Actually stuff that doesn't need to run for long is acceptable like a hedger or pole saw but things that have long runtimes are better with gas motors.

>>2928268
I gotta go out of state to get anything decent these days

That's ok I already finished

>>2929938
>That's ok I already finished

Is that what you tell your wife?

>>2930057
No, it’s what I tell your dad.

>>2930483
You speak to the dead? Tell him I said hi.

>>2919567 (OP)
>starts first pull everytime
>sips gas
>can go through blackberry, no metal cutter head needed
>easy to push around, so no tires arms
>can do miles of fenceline unlike gay little electric trimmers
only downside is that it's not a three point mounted pto-driven swinging cutter

>>2930542
Just buy one of these heads that let's you run massive gauge trim line instead and git gud at whackin if you want to rip through heavy shit like blackberry. Or get a metal glass if you want to kill your motor.

>>2930546
glass = blade

>>2930542
Theres just a fixed length of trimmer. Does it have a wore rope core? Since without a mechanism to extend it on the fly and with the gentle trimmer string I doubt you're doing miles of anything.

>>2930542
I present to you the whirly blades of death.

>>2920188
First off, I haven't found a Mexican that works harder than a white man in 15 years. They have pretty much caught up with Americans on the lazy scale. Those brown folks you see working are most likely Guatemalan.

Secondly, why the fuck would I want to work as hard as the browns when I can just plug it in and go to work. If you want to work like a brown than be my guest poorfag.

>>2930622
>african helicopter

>>2930695
>poorfag
gas trimmers are probably more expensive in the long run so who's the poorfag now?

grass scythe master race

>>2919567 (OP)
ive decided to get rid of my ancient craftsman leaf blower, ive replaced the carb parts but every time i go to use it I have to fuck with the needles and today it died right at the last second and I was like fuck this. i was looking at buying a hyper tough or the "wild badger" from menards cause they are both cheap but I saw stihl bg50 is made in America, its gotta be better than any random chinese stuff.

>>2930724
is it made in america or assembled in america

>>2930733
info says made in america with foreign parts. there is also the echo brand PB-2520 i see is assembled in illinois with parts from some japanese company. but walmart is selling the echo one for $50 less. are stihl made from chinese parts? the japanese parts may be better but i think stihl is a more known brand

>>2919567 (OP)
Check the carb diaphragm. It's always the diaphragm.
Also empty the fuel tank and carb if you're going to store the trimmer for more than 3 days.