Plaster masterwork - /diy/ (#2928299) [Archived: 264 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:37:19 AM No.2928299
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How are decorated plaster ceilings and walls like these installed and serviced?
Like how the fuck do they paint them or repair them when it's needed? Especially when they have the trims be a different color from the walls.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 7:50:14 AM No.2928313
>>2928299 (OP)
sounds expensive boss
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 3:19:49 PM No.2928391
>>2928313
Sounds like you should get my dick in your mouth to shut the fuck up
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 4:51:11 PM No.2928411
>>2928299 (OP)
thats above my pay grade chief
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:49:34 PM No.2928458
>>2928299 (OP)
Measure ceiling. Design in CAD. Mill in sections out of foam. Number them to. not mix up. Glue to ceiling. Spray plaster. Maybe sand super smooth if you feel fancy.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 11:05:32 PM No.2928493
>>2928458
How do you renovate this type of shit if you want the wall a different color? Do you have to bring down the old plaster? I just don't see how you could make a perfect cut of paint with those wall decos.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:04:50 AM No.2928527
>>2928299 (OP)
you sound poor, and uneducated.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:45:55 AM No.2928538
>>2928493
You do have a point here and since I'm not sure how it came across: My comment was meant to be purely comedic I have no idea if that would work and naturally someone did that by hand back in the day. I do suppose they took it off or just paid really good attention while painting.
On a sidenote: I visited a castle once and it was explained by the guide that in thag area the ground was very unsuitable for building structures on top, the heavier the structure the worse it gets. As a result the entire castle was built as light as possible which meant all decorations, pillars, staircases and what not was actually papemache and gypsum.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:07:31 AM No.2928544
>>2928527
You live in a cardboard house my guy
>>2928538
so.... /diy/ doesn't know shit basically
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:28:39 AM No.2928559
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>>2928299 (OP)
start flat, apply precut accents, plasters and sand
i think you could paint them just like anything else i would repair with drywall mud and a cardboard jig. take some cardboard get a soda can washer something round trace it cut it out and use to smooth drywall mud then sand and paint.
paint the walls first when it is flat apply cornice or molding or dowels or w/e then paint trim. pic related
I think /diy/k is covered in bot post, peace out cupcakes.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 9:22:55 AM No.2928626
I have worked in construction for a while
mainly in fancy hotels and we had some water damage there
>literally in front of the presidents suite

>everything needs to be taken down
>fix water damage
>rebuild what was lost
>reapply everything

Best way to keep it clean is sandblasting it with dry ice.

the really good stoff doesnt get painted over
>costs a fortune
The owner usually keeps the molds to have them when work needs to be done.

My doctor has a house from the 1880s and no one bothered to save any of the decorative plaster.
>landlord premium package
everything was just painted over and you can barely see the shapes it used to have.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 9:35:25 AM No.2928629
plaster tools
plaster tools
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>>2928299 (OP)
These are some of the tools used. The ornaments are cast and fixed to the ceiling. Space in between is plastered and corners/strips are made with the tools in the image.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:12:33 AM No.2928647
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>>2928299 (OP)
I'm getting into designing, making and installing decorative plasterwork. It's a massive topic and 95% of people who want to get into it don't have the skills to make anything interesting that won't fall apart.
It's meant to be painted with soft distemper that can be washed off when you need to, but most has historically been fucked by layers of modern paint that ruin detail and take an age to remove. A colour scheme takes patience and smaller brushes, who'd have known?
Repairing missing sections (if the substrate is okay) is easy if you know the materials, you're just copying and filling like for like.
You ideally need a good substrate of lime plaster, which flexes with building and is very durable - plasterboard is completely inappropriate and a pile of shit and you're a faggot if you install it.
You can start your desgin by running plaster along your dies like other anon posted with layers increasing in finer agrigates until you use a finish like plaster of Paris. You can then apply moulded or pre sculpted elements adhered with plaster, sometime you might want to create armatures on the ceiling and sculpt directly - in lime or gypsum.
It's very up to personal taste how you want to do it, and is a problem solving exercise in every design choice.
But the materials are quite clear if you want it to last and have a legacy - nobody in their right mind would get rid of a finely crafted and high quality ceiling by a decent artist. The traditional materials and techniques were developed over thousands of years and don't have a decent replacement. The imitation ceilings are being removed ultimately.
I have an 19th century book on the topic and I'm trying to work out how to make a jig to produce receding fluted columns for my house, but it's in dense Victorian technobabble.
Here's a work of mine before pouring the mould. It will be laid back to back to make a 6ft ceiling rose, and then cut into quarters to fill the quadrants of the ceiling
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:46:15 PM No.2928689
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>>2928299 (OP)
there are several main techniques
usually they make many smaller pieces using with molds and/or jiggs like these>>2928629
large sections and ceilings are typically done as tiles, sculpted on a on table and then put together like puzzle and then meticulously cover up the small gaps with more plaster to make it all look seamless
then they glue them into place

but sometimes the easiest way to do it is to sculpt it directly on the wall
painting has to be done by hand with small painter brushes and sufficiently thin paint
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 11:33:10 PM No.2929025
>>2928299 (OP)
The old way is that the plasterer had molds that they would fit to the wall or ceiling for casting. The modern method is plastic shit, of course.
For trim painting and maintenance, it's called skills.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 12:54:51 AM No.2929666
>>2928689
Can you glue those corbels up with more plaster? How are these things usually fastened?