Thread 2932363 - /diy/

Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:35:24 PM No.2932363
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Why are pneumatic tools so much more popular and seemingly preferred to hydraulic tools? What are the advantages and disadvantages of each?

I'm sure cost is a major reason for home gamers, but even like infrastructural road crews will usually have a pneumatic breaker and not a hydraulic one. Why?
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:50:25 PM No.2932369
>>2932363 (OP)
Two hoses. Any sort of malfunction and they're squirting oil. Scary pressures. Pinhole leak in a hose and you could lose an arm or leg

Pneumatic is easier to repair. They got replaceable vanes thay go brrrr. The hydraulics have big machined holes that have to stay in spec.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:02:16 PM No.2932405
>>2932369
Pretty much this. You have a leak or hose blowout on pneumatic then you're pumping air into the environment. It's a lot easier to clean up than oil.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:27:54 AM No.2932499
>>2932405
Have you ever tried to clean air? It's hard as fuck, shit moves about.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:47:48 AM No.2932580
>>2932369
Air is also easier to replace than hydraulic fluid. Hydraulic is for super big forces that would be impractical with air. Tho pneumatic is being replaced slowly by electric drives in industrial equipment because compressors are inefficient and expensive to run

>>2932499
> what is an ASU
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:55:33 AM No.2932581
>>2932363 (OP)
to add to the other anons, everything is also heavier with hydraulics
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:20:53 PM No.2932608
>>2932581
When you get up to something with the power of OP's impact wrench or a large auger or any of the other stuff that's typically hydraulic, I'm not sure that an equivalent pneumatic tool would actually be lighter.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:41:31 PM No.2932623
hydraulic: serious, serious business. rail yards. ship builders. the really big heavy machinery that you tell your heavy machinery not to worry about. yuo have to crack this nut right fucking now not 15 seconds from now.
cost: $$$$$

pneumatic: chuggachuggachugga forever and ever and ever with little to no maintenance as long as you keep it oiled. you don't mind waiting 15 seconds to crack the nut but god damn it, it's getting cracked.
cost: $$$

electric 1: the shit you get at home depot. works, for the most part. you only occasionally crack nuts in your shed when your wife's boyfriend comes over and you actually prefer it takes longer than necessary. the batteries cost as much as the tool, and you always need multiples.
cost:$$

electric 2: high power with precise electronic control. you don't get this shit at home depot. you probably could crack this nut right fucking now, but you're more interested in torquing it down to exactly 426.575Nm right fucking now.
cost: $$$ - $$$$$$
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:37:17 PM No.2932640
>>2932499
>Have you ever tried to clean air? It's hard as fuck, shit moves about.
I just bag my contaminated air up and chuck it in the ocean.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 2:21:53 AM No.2932715
>>2932580
>pneumatic is being replaced slowly by electric drives in industrial equipment because compressors are inefficient and expensive to run

OP here, this is the main thing that had me wondering. With how inefficient pneumatics are and efficient hydraulics are, I'd think the switch would've been more common even before the fancy electric stuff.

You're out in some cursed field with no grid in sight, running off gas in a power unit – aren't you going to want as much of that gas (money) turned into mechanical energy as possible?
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 3:40:35 AM No.2932724
>>2932640
What about the fish?
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 5:55:59 AM No.2932762
>>2932715
It's faster and easier to move around an air/battery impact rather than a hydraulic torque wrench for most bolts. The time moving the hydraulic wrench around is typically not worth the precision/high torque capability for 95% of bolts found on most equipment/tractors. With an air impact you just need an air line to the compressor. With hydraulic you need two lines (feed/return), a pump, a electric motor/or engine to drive the pump etc. And if the one of the hoses blow out for some reason you need specialty hoses/fittings/crimping tools to repair them. If your air line leaks it's usually alright to get the job done. Plus it's cheaper to repair or replace.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 8:01:42 AM No.2932768
>>2932363 (OP)
why do Jews have such big noses?

because air is free.

also, if you gonna big pump you can use it for blowing shit clean, or running pressure washer, etc.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 11:47:33 AM No.2932787
>>2932715
>I'd think the switch would've been more common even before the fancy electric stuff.

Reliability is heavily weighted in industrial decision-making. Heat accelerates wear. Lack of lubrication accelerates wear. Air motors don't generate heat (in specific cases, they can need heat sinks because they get too _cold_), and air-powered tools often have lubricant added regularly or even constantly.

Electric motors generate heat. While the tools themselves aren't inherently more difficult to lubricate, it's easier to ignore that facet of their maintenance than with air tools, it seems. Electric motors also require insulating parts, which are almost always some kind of polymer or ceramic. Polymers often have problems with brittlenes and degradation when exposed to heat and petroleum products. Until very recently, electric motors had to be huge to even come close to matching air motors, and that gap has merely shrunk, not disappeared. All of this adds up to electric tools being heavier and less reliable, and almost always more expensive up front in an apples-to-apples performance comparison.

Additionally, a huge portion of industrial settings already require compressed air for other processes or machines. It sort of just makes sense to use pneumatic tools if you already have an extensive air system. The ONLY real downsides are that they can't be cordless (not usually a huge issue in industry) and running cost (which IS a huge deal in industry). And those running costs, while potentially significant, are trivial when considered as a portion of overall operating expenses. The reliability, repairability, and lower initial investment for pneumatics generally sees them favored, in the end. While high-performance electric motors have cut into this edge somewhat, it's unlikely any industry will abandon pneumatic tools entirely any time soon.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 12:17:07 PM No.2932790
I suspect it's because pneumatic compressors are more versatile in small shops, nobody begrudged the cost of them.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 5:35:55 PM No.2932836
>>2932724
I bag my contaminated fish and chuck them on dry land