Thread 2996696

Thoughts for anti-AI users?

I like AI art and this looks like absolute shit. Is that what you like? She looks like she ate too many cheeseburgers and doesn't know how to exercise. Like what someone would like from the stone age. When shown images of women even infants react stronger toward the ideal standards of beauty, thin, fit girls that are typical bishoujo images. Long legs, thin waists, moderate breasts. There's a reason characters in Genshin Impact look like this:
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=12183364

and not like this absolute garbage level trash you've posted because it's what people like and what sells. You're allowed to like this vile blob shit, you will even find people who agree with you but keep in mind you'll always be in the minority.

>>2996780
Tbh I wasn't buying the wacky proportions too, @honkibooty be like that I guess.

Also idk how to source this since its a Patreon exclusive only: https://www.patreon.com/posts/some-tohru-pinup-126876531

SauceNAO gives no Pixiv/Twitter/Bsky public posting and I didn't want to look like a shill.

Genshin Impact's earlier designs were definitely on point, idk wtf is with their current ones though. Rosaria is the reason I've played the game in the first place.

>>2996785
Forgot to mention, even an AI-generated one improved on the proportions.

>>2996785
I'll delete my comment then sir.

>>2996696 (OP)

are you talking about using ai to ADD clothes to a woman who was formerly totally naked? while i don't mind AI being used to edit pics the person should at least go over the work to correct any mistakes made by the AI

>>2996780
A bit too harsh of a critique desu.Its not the worst image I've seen and honestly I think that it did an average job, not garbage tier but not great. I think this would be very useful in the future
>>2997432
This is good point

>>2996696 (OP)
from some observations:
~ 25% hate it (they also hate anything ai)
~ 20% love it
~ 50% dont care as long as the outcome looks good
~ 5% are utterly surprised to find out it was ai-enhanced/generated

>>2996696 (OP)
My biggest concern is keeping AI images out of my collection. At this rate I'm not going to be able to save anything if I don't get it from the artist directly.

>>3003949
You mean AI edits? If you can't tell that they're AI while curating your collection, does it even matter?

>>3004115
Yes.

>>3004115
I'd say it matters depending on the level of quality of one's own collections. If its for personal use then whatever, doesn't matter, but if its to share with others then it would be best to just share unedited art or at least give a proper warning as not everyone is looking for that.

>>3003949
I don't think its *that* hard desu. I don't think most self respecting artists would be secretive about it and people are usually pretty good about tagging images.

>>3016363
well pixiv is limited to 10 tags and if the artist fills them up nobody can add AI tags... so there's plenty of obvious AI without the tag, question is how much non-obvious AI is there as well

>>3004119
Why?

>>3003949
>>3004119
At this point you're fucked. No one can guarantee anything at this point, AI image sets are flooding most image hosting sites like Hitomi.la, Exhentai, etc. and there's a new breed of artists out there who are using AI as a tool, and then finishing manually.

Unless you pay for your shit from an actual artists, there's no way to guarantee lack of AI.

>>3016436
I'm hoping for better AI forensics eventually. Something I could run my collection through to flag anything suspect.
>and there's a new breed of artists out there who are using AI as a tool, and then finishing manually.
I'm completely fine with that. I've actually requested a draw anon remake an AI generated image before. The important part isn't who makes the brushstrokes but who makes the final decisions.

>>3016486
>The important part isn't who makes the brushstrokes but who makes the final decisions.
This is hardly clear-cut and will only become less clear in future. Take a look at the AI threads here and on other boards and you'll see people getting (rightfully) bullied for bad hands and other AI tells in their posts. Any self-respecting genner inpaints out the flaws before posting. And that can be a very blended process of manual touchups, followed by more AI, followed by more manual touchups, etc... There are also artists who do the opposite of what anon said and start with a manual sketch which they finish with AI. And there are also times you get a perfect image from a single prompt and it doesn't need touching up. If it's been done skilfully, there's no way to tell which of these methods produced a given picture, or to know how much human vs AI input went into the final product.

I can understand not wanting badly drawn stuff in your collection, but you can use your eyes for that. If you need a computer program to tell you whether something's AI or not, what are you really achieving with that knowledge?