/TIP/ Trad Ivy Prep
Ametora oxford edition
Also I don't have the op text edition

>>18434527 (OP)
Hey everybody, please don't forget to write your monthly harassment email or linkedin message to bully manufacturers away from 2% elastane slop

>>18434529
I saw that every single non iron shirt Brooks Brothers sells these days is 3% spandex.
Not like non iron shirts are a great loss but adding spandex to all of them is embarrassing.

Kamakura lowered their prices on their international web store and J Press only restocks their trim fit shirts once a year so i finally decided to grab a vintage ivy oxford.
Then after i ordered i saw the new Aemetora oxfords Kamakura added to their classics collection. At first i was seething that i didn't buy one of those instead but looking at the measurements they are full fucking fit they might even be a bit larger in the chest then J Press standard fit Oxfords. They are a full inch pit to pit larger then any of my traditional fit or Madison fit BB oxfords i have and seem to even fit larger then a 50s or 60s BB oxford i saw for sale recently.
Too bad, just an an inch or three slimmer in the chest and the Ametora shirts would be perfect and a must buy for $150 a pop.

>>18434527 (OP)
This is not funny...

>>18434527 (OP)
For those who wear tweed jackets: The lowest temp I face in winter is 0 degrees C/-17F...what weight of tweed jacket should I buy? (I will only be wearing the jacket from late autumn to early spring)

>>18434527 (OP)
i'd get laughed out of the office if i rolled up with cuffed trousers

>>18434543
BB Madison are pretty damn big already, that's absolutely massive.
>>18434908
At that point you'll need a coat as well.

>>18434930
>At that point you'll need a coat as well
Even with 18-21oz tweed? What if I wear a thin wool sweater underneath?

>>18434926
really? Literally who cares. Why.

>>18434926
>i'd get laughed out of the office if i rolled up with cuffed trousers
why?

>>18434527 (OP)
I wore this outfit once but some anons made fun of me when I accidentally posted a photo of it. Take this as a warning: Never phonepost

Anyone know where to find some decent linen and madras trousers that aren't too expensive? I checked J Press and their "linen" pants are 54% polyester...

>>18434908
>>18434930
Just add a scarf
t. scandi

What do you call it when sleeves do this? How can it be prevented?

>>18435780
idk senpai just looks like he chose too thin a material
if it's linen then that's just what it does

Slop thread in current form

>>18435780
rumpling?
looser cut and thicker fabric

>>18434926
sounds like a shit office
iktf, shit coworkers and a shit boss (but moreso the asslicking coworkers that look for anything to denigrate you)

>>18435500
O'Connell's
They aren't cheap but they also aren't low rise and half polyester like J Press

BB completely fell off after the bankruptcy during Covid. I've been using Charles tyrwhit since

>>18436193
BB completely fell off after the bankruptcy and restructuring in the early 2000s.
For that matter Mercer and Sons was founded in the 70s because in the owners opinion BB Oxfords had gone to shit.

>>18436193
Charles tyrwhit don't have horn/mop buttons.

>>18436341
Who cares about the buttons, they almost exclusively sell skinny fit shirts unless you go made to order and they don't have a single fabric that isn't sprayed with some formaldehyde and resin "non iron" treatment that makes cotton shirts feel worse then polyester.

>>18434527 (OP)
Trad ivy prep?

nah, more like

tard IV PrEP

My Kamakura Vintage Ivy ocbd came today in white
it's a bit slimmer then i expected, not skinny or anything, maybe I'm just used to full fat guy OCBD cuts, ive been wearing lots of BB traditional fit lately.
The fabric is a very loose weave, you can see right through it, closest to a vintage Gitman bros oxford (not to be confused with a modern shirt tagged "Gitman vintage")i bought secondhand. Should be really breathable in hot weather
Overall not bad for $120 but im not sure if im ready to buy a dozen shirts in this cut.
I might actually try one of their ocbs from their regular shirting lines or just buy the full fit Ametora Oxfords they have now.

>>18437862
Also i need to wash it before i can say for sure but the collar seems to have that collar roll when wearing a tie shape even when the top button is unbuttoned and no tie is in sight. I prefer the collar to have a distinctive s shaped roll when unbuttoned.

Ive been buying full fit covered waistband oxford cloth boxers from various brands.
J Press : best quality fabric, less oversized fit then others, narrower waistband, made in usa
Tiger mountain: very crisp dry feeling fabric, fits huge, size down if between sizes,
Battenwear: cheapest, average size fit, fabric is fine but not special
Next i need to try some from Mercer & Sons

Denimfag here. Need one good pair of grey trousers to pair with odd sport coats for the few times a year I need to look like I give a shit.

Best material and shade of grey? In terms of sport coats I've got a navy hopsack BB Brooksease, an olive BB easy care, and a harris tweed Spier and Mackay neo cut. Want something light enough that won't look weird with hopsack but heavy enough that it won't be weird with tweed.

>>18438192
Khaki chinos is of course the most versatile, but I guess something like pic rel might be able to cover both bases

>>18434527 (OP)
Even the literal papal vestments in the Vatican use plastic hangers. Is it joeover tip-thread?

Recommend some nice wood hangers to me. I bought some from IKEA a few ago but they have desgastang clear Lacquer on it :/

just copped a navy gloverall monty, quite excited

>>18438192
>Want something light enough that won't look weird with hopsack but heavy enough that it won't be weird with tweed.
A wool twill like covert would work for that.
I'd also get a tropical wool / fresco.

>>18434908
Something medium weight; 300g minimum, 500g maximum. I have a heavyweight tweed jacket that I never wear because putting a coat over my regular tweed jacket is more versatile

>>18438192
Charcoal flannels

Maybe wrong thread but what tie can I wear with this?

>>18438877
rust, green, red, pink, rep

how did OP fuck up so badly in baking this bread?

For the next one, here's the pasta. Let's just leave the link to the previous thread unchanged so that based archive readers don't get stuck on this thread and can't easily click on to the previous ones.


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>>18371991
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>READS/BOOKS/ALBUMS
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>>18440155

>>18434543
All the stuff I care about, Kamakura classics, is still the same price.

On that note, what does /tip/ think of this? I don’t own a suit, but everyone else in my wardrobe is just Kamakura which I guess is the only reason I’m seriously considering it.

Lastly, what glasses frames does this general gravitate towards? Optometrist recommended some pretty large glasses frames in black so I just went with that.

>>18437862
You can buy through a proxy like Japan rabbit and pay only $67 a shirt. >>18438573
Just get some cedar hangars from literally anywhere.

>>18434527 (OP)
I tried horsebit loafers but I just can't. Feels too feminine for me. And I'm not someone who who is overly sensitive to that.

Might give penny loafers ago now. If that doesn't work either I will stay with sneakers.

>>18441268
>Just get some cedar hangars from literally anywhere.
100% with some disgusting clear laquer on it

>>18441273
Had to google what that was and yeah looks pretty gay. Should also be careful with shoes that are too pointy up front, definitely give off a fat vive. Can’t go wrong with Alden LHS, there the right amount of broad if you want some loafers for work. Wear my 986s daily.

>>18438573
I got mine from a retail supply company who makes store displays.

>>18441268
I don't like how that looks, the fabric looks weird, almost like someone tailored a London Fog into a suit jacket.

>>18441502
Yeah you’re right. This is why I love you guys, ward off the ‘tism at least until I open my mouth.

Fuck it im ordering the Kamakura Ametora Oxford,

>>18442322
J Press trim fit is too tight, and their regular fit has dropped shoulders so im going gook

>>18434527 (OP)
My ideal Proper Cloth OCBD
- Collar: Colorado Button Down
- Cuff: Soft One Button Barrel
- No Pocket
- Soft Front Placket
- Split Yoke
- Rounded Hem
- Brown Horn Buttons
- Initials Serif, back inside of collar, same color as fabric

The only thing missing is a nice light grey fabric. The only grey oxford cloth they have is too blue. The only grey linen they have is really green.

>>18442712
BTW does somebody here know how often they get new fabrics?

Might go for white oxford cloth + MOP Buttons in the mean time. But I really prefer horn buttons bc they are more casual. But that does not work with white cloth imo

>>18442718
>Might go for white oxford cloth + MOP Buttons in the mean time.
Do this
Im reasonably happy with my proper cloth shirts but i probably wont buy more since by the time i add MOP buttons and pima oxford fabric they cost as much as a made in usa oxford.
Proper cloth's standard oxford fabric is pretty heavy which makes them less practical in hot weather.
That said if you have weird fit needs or want a more polished look then off the rack shirts proper cloth is a solid option.
Make sure you get the unlined barrel cuffs and consider trying their lightweight Oxford fabric
Also the university collar is good, would recommend, it's not oversized

>>18442731
thx for the advice
>unlined barrel cuffs
wdym? Lined? Do you mean fused? I'm pretty much sold on "Soft One Button Barrel" since all the "Soft" cuffs are unfused.

>>18442739
Yeah soft is what I meant, get those

I'd like to get a beater pair of AE wingtips to wear casually with chinos and jeans. Is darker brown or oxblood more appropriate/versatile for this? Also open to a lighter shade of brown, but the 2010s have soured me on that a bit

>>18442844
wingtips are never casual. But I'm open to be proven wrong with a pic

>>18438877
If you're daring, I'd go with a bowtie due to the peak lapels. Anything dark

>>18443232
Not even in a pebbled leather with some thicker soles?

>>18443320
Wait what. I thought we were talking about shirt collars?

>>18434527 (OP)
This looks so gay without a jacket or some kind of outerwear to hold everything together

>>18443507
>nondescript shirt and trousers are gay
Maybe the gay here is you little man

The pomp and meticulously trimmed beard are what gets me. Nothing says "I'm a man" more than spending as much time on your hair as your girl does on her makeup. I don't even know if this image is real. It looks like AI to me. It doesn't even matter though. I know guys who look exactly like this IRL. It's the kind of thing I don't know whether to laugh or cry at. How do we show these guys the light?

>>18443678
>I think a real man shouldn't spend more than 30 seconds a day on grooming hmmm wonder what community should I join
>ah yes I know what about the dead as fuck fashion board on 4chan?

Just rewatched the episode of Aspel and Company with Oliver Reed (the second one, from 1990 where he's sober). I wish I could pull off the suit he's wearing.

>>18443521
not that guy but the look is basic bitch npc tier
it's the unseasoned chicken breast with rice outfit but (kinda) formal

How do you safarimax in 2025 without looking LARPy?

>>18444026

>>18444028

>>18444032

>>18434527 (OP)
how does she do it.

I want to have "maximalist" styled home decor and clothing too. But it always looks tryhard when I do

>>18444042
The lamps. The vase. How does she do it.

If I would try it would look like flea market trash or cheap amazon trash. How do it properly

>>18444042
is that that trans politics youtuber? the answer is probably simply that they have way more money than you. so if you bought it, it would be flea market trash. no shade, thats just the way it is. you also need a good space that complements quality vintage/antique items. like itd be weird to decorate like that in a shitty new build with drywall.
also theyre probably more aesthetically minded and better at coordinating such things than a straight dude.
>>18444026
RL has made a lot of cool pieces that are military & safari inspired. you just gotta distinguish between LARP tier and tasteful. drop the epaulets, just get something with pleated pockets, and mix up the colors with more than khaki.

>>18444044
>>18444042
take this troonshit to a different thread, wtf does that have to do with /TIP/

>>18444116
it's trad home decor duh

>>18444225
Just get O'Connell's shorts

Does /tip/ works with long hair?

>>18444116
> cares about culture war
lower class poor person alien invader detected. Go back to your plebian slums you subhuman. Come back when you have accumulated $1m in S&P500 and a few pieces of real estate.

>>18444156
It looks gaudy as hell. Not trad at all.

>>18444581
I would say yes, definitely, but only with about ten asterisks on it.

Basically I'm only here to get useful information out of the few knowledgeable people here. But you people are - like most 4channers - miserable unpleasant people. It’s all so tiresome

>>18444778
ok

Been looking for cotton/linen blend chinos. Seems like if it contains linen it's either Tony Bahama drawnstring pants or dressy pleated trousers and not much in between.

The only ones I've found in EU are Incotex Chinolino (comically row rise, 22cm+waistband), PRL cotton linen chinos (ordered from the big&tall section because it has 32cm rise) or Tommy Hilfiger. Am I missing any brands? Casatlantic failed this season with only green and navy linen

>>18434529
> every Proper Cloth chino pant fabric
The "casual pant" style is locked if you choose a normal fabric. You need to pick a dress pant style and set the details so that they are chino-like, wtf

>>18444778
It sounds more like you're the miserable one. Every time I've asked for advice in /tip/ I've gotten helpful replies, or none at all, and never anything unpleasant. Go back.

>>18434527 (OP)
Debating with the GF which luxury brands are genuine luxury and which a plebian trash (considering handbags but your opinion ob "generally" suffices)

The obvious being Gucci and LV being plebian. Maybe Hermes is genuine luxury but $50k for a handbag is too much for me. I'd say eg Mulberry or MiuMiu are legit. We both agree Loro Piana is plebian trash.

>>18445497
This has nothing to do with /tip/ but before discussing what is 'le heckling plebian' (how do you even type that our without wincing) you need to define what luxury means.

If it means good quality materials then you need to set the standard of what a good material is, based on that tons of big brands might fit here as they have many lines at many price points.
If you mean good value proposition as in the final price being relatively close to the sum of the raw materials + labor (which would be an odd definition of luxury) then almost no big label would fit.
>loro piana is plebian trash
I mean loro piana has tons of good products, sounds like you are just contrarian and bitter about the recent popularity of the brand and its association with 'old money' and such.

It's always fun to see broke people argue about what being 'truly' rich actually is

Replacement ocbd from luxire. I dont remember if the last one had such a loooong box pleat.

>>18434529
>he doesn't get all his stuff made Bespoke.

>>18445519
>>loro piana is plebian trash
>I mean loro piana has tons of good products, sounds like you are just contrarian and bitter about the recent popularity of the brand and its association with 'old money' and such.

That’s not true tho. They are genuinely not a high quality manufacturer. You can see it with things as simple as how straight the sewing is, that they forget to cut the loose ends of the threads.
It has nothing to do with being contrarian- it’s just objectively a new-fashion-brand, not a high quality manufacturer.

What is the tip version of summer outfits? I can't think of much more than cotton/linen short sleeve button downs and linen pants, but even then I dont want to wear sandals, wearing oxfords all the time is going to be too much, and I can't bring myself to do the white sneaker thing

I want to commission a jacket that can be styled casually. Something I can wear with a dress shirt and full cut trousers. Please post some inspos if you want to.

>>18445902
>shirts
pique polos, button-downs or popovers in poplin, seersucker, madras, linen
>pants
shorts, seersucker slacks, tropical wool/fresco
>shoes
boat shoes, camp mocs, unlined loafers, birkenstocks

I got a pair of boxers from O'Connell's for the collection. I thought they were made by the same factory with the same pattern and the J Press boxers but they are pretty different. The J Press boxers are slimmer, narrower waistband, and made with a beautiful loose weave oxford fabric. The O'Connell's boxers have the same design in terms of construction, the way the fly is made etc but they are a bit fuller fit and made with a very smooth slightly crisp oxford fabric with a tighter weave.
Im buying these to sleep in and wear as loungewear but of the brands ive tried so far the J Press would be the most practical to actually wear as underwear under menswear.

Will I be bullied if I dress like this to work?

>>18446326
Yes. I like high waisted trousers but slacks that high are super out of place these days, they just feel weird (socially, not physically ).

>>18446443
Why can women wear whatever the fuck they want to work as long as they don't look like a whore (and even that's allowed to an extent)? Ce n'est pas juste!

>>18446326
>>18446443
The proper way to wear high-waisted trousers are to get the ones that have a taller waistband like military trousers. This would prevent that grandpa look. Also, having a strong build and nice arms helps.

>Trad
>Looks like Greg in accounting, or someone going in for a casual interview.

I really like proper cloth a lot bc of their ethos around materials and custom made sizes. But their colors are super hard to guess. Clark Grey Oxford turned out to be kind of blueish. Irish braid mcnut grey turned out to be very green. I just got their white blouson and it’s fucking beige.

I will keep all these things because I don’t care that much but it’s still annoying.

>>18446466
No my guy. Female office wear does have more flexibility but if a women comes in oversized Tshirt and sweatpants that’s not whorish but still not acceptable to dresscode. Depending on the office blue jeans and Nike Sneakers aren’t either. Quite similar to male office wear desu

Japan summer is here, time to switch to linen

>>18446949
Your shoe laces are undone.

>>18446973
He was in the middle of switching to linen

>>18446931
>but if a women comes in oversized Tshirt and sweatpants
That's not even remotely the same thing you disingenuous piece of shit.

>>18446987
what do you mean disingenuous. The claim was women could wear anything that isn't whorish to the office. That just isn't true at all. I gave a counterexample. Simple as

Linen pants either come in beach drawstring bullshit or formal side adjuster etc., nobody seems to be making linen (or linen+cotton blend) chinos with a higher waist, Casatlantic style.

There's:
> Incotex Chinolino
> NN07
> PRL (c+l blend)
but they're low waits.

Can't find vtg PRL Andrew cotton+linen blend in EU. Abercrombie seems to have something tolerable but it's sold out in my size. Uniqlo has some bullshit chino+elastic waistband thing. I looked at Bronson, Olderbest, Berg&Berg, Casatlantic (want khaki not green) etc.

Any other recs in EU?

>>18444854
>>18447230
forgot i already posted...

>>18447230
>Any other recs in EU?
Nope
Spier and mackay is cheap enough importing won't hurt too bad
To them high rise is 11 1/2 at size 30 but what you want is extremely niche
https://www.spierandmackay.com/product/copper-cotton-linen-high-rise-chino-11927-hr-chn

>>18447009
Here you go, ESL.
https://philarchive.org/archive/CARQAC

>>18447230
Casatlantic has linen trousers in their new summer collection, but they look waaay too high-waisted in my opinion. You want high-waist pants that don't look like this >>18446326

>>18447230
O'Connell's has some beautiful linen trousers right now, but they are made with high tier suiting linen and priced accordingly.
Proper high waist, even the shorter rise option is high rise compared to most of the market.

>>18447230
> Any other recs in EU?

Get MTM from Proper Cloth or Suitsupply

Opinions on the elbow patches on the RL67 ralph lauren tweed?

>>18448062
Would prefer darker patches and a centre vent

>>18441273
moccasins were my baby step from sneakers. they work with a lot of the same fits and they're more comfortable.

>>18446326
men's fashion back then heavily centered around min/maxing how good you look in a jacket because men always wore jackets outdoors and shirts were considered not far off from underwear.
as a result the fits look a little goofy with the jackets off. it doesn't help that they're not wearing belts because its an advertisement and trying to show the pants in full detail. a belt would make the pants look a touch shorter.

What do you think should i get this old sack jacket?

what do you guys think about the alteration on these chinos? they had 3" taken off. are the pockets too close together or will it be fine?
these never got made in my size so i'm going to have to alter them if i buy a different pair.

>>18449404
Just get the Bronson officers chinos.
https://bronsonshop.com/products/1944-usmc-officer-trousers-khaki

>>18449458
i have other fatigues from them but they only go down to size 29 so i have to stick to the ones with waist adjusters, or tailor them. i wear a snug 26" or loose 27".

>>18449491
Whelp i hope you like glorious nippon.
I dunno about 27 but you will find Japanese chinos in size 28.
These ones have a sub 27 inch waist for the size 28 if im doing the math right.
Use From Japan or or other proxy service, should be $5 in proxy fees and about $20 for international shipping.
They also make two looser cuts if you find these too slim
https://item.rakuten.co.jp/earthmarket/br40025a/?variantId=879488

>>18434527 (OP)
I love this fabric from Eton. This check pattern in white&grey goes well for engineering jobs.

Unfortunately my autism hinders me from buying anything but MTM and also plastic buttons :/

>>18449736
>https://bears-tokyo.myshopify.com/products/buzz-ricksons-br40025a-original-spec-chino
You can just get those directly from here without a proxy. Also no shipping and duties were only €10 for me. Excellent chinos especially for the price.

>>18449778
Who would ever want a spread collar on a shirt that will never be worn with a tie?

I remember this thread being called the /preppy/ thread years ago. Anyone here who remembers when and why it got renamed to /tip/ for the sale of internet history?

When, if ever, should I wear a tie clip?

who makes the best off the rack suits right now?

>>18450150
When it’s windy.

>>18449736
i want that exact pattern and fit. or the version with welted pockets. i already have those trousers in olive drab cotton sateen and love them.

What are yall wearing lately

>>18450477
>Tfw bought a Beaufort on eBay for a good price but the sleeves are too short

Now I have to send it in and pay 100 bucks.

>>18450511
Send it where? does barbour lengthen them?
mine is a little big, the bagginess is fine but the length and sleeves are too long

>>18450284
>who makes the best off the rack suits right now?
What kind of suit are you looking for?

>>18450521
Yeah, you can have Barbour alter and repair. Honestly I think yours looks good with the minor cuffing.

Can someone recommend a nice (but not break the bank nice) casual pair of black loafers? Trying to pull off something like pic related and all I can find is cheap looking name brand mall stuff, and stuff that looks like a mexican linecook would wear.

>>18450727
Meermin seems to be a cheap option that is popular in this part of the internet

Stop dressing like a grampa anon

You're still desperate for the approval of your boomer parents

>>18450732
Thank you anon, exactly what I was looking for

>>18449458
What are the measurements on these? I’m pretty autistic about my pants

>>18450833
They have a measurement chart if you scroll down a bit.
I would call them high rise straight leg but they aren't quite as wide as their other chino with a 10" leg opening

>>18450733
I don’t care about approval from my boomer parents. Instead, I get off of mogging lower class poors in supreme tshirts and Gucci bags.

>>18450954
>haha i mog these normies so hard bro yeah totally
what the normies (everyone around you) see:
>oh wow a guy in a dress shirt and suit pants... must be some office worker *never looks at you again*
what the normies see in a gucci bag:
>oh wow this person wears an obvious wealth display! the consumerist nature of my human being thinks this is cool!

also who the fuck wears supreme in big '25?????

>>18450960
normies aren't impressed by gucci anymore everyone knows your shit's panda buy. flex culture's dead time to actually learn how to put your big boy pants on and put fits together that speak for themself without a logo.

>>18451301
good to know iguess
im a little behind on this stuff

>>18451397
thats like the main reason brand flexing died, everyone knows you can get indistinguishable clones of designer stuff for 10% of the price from china. even with the tariffs they just triangle ship to a middleman country lol.
it used to be a thing only internet nerds knew about but youtubers and tiktokers blew up the spot. the new meta is having quality clothes and a good silhouette. the younger guys are going back to like y2k, 80s shit and all that was similar in fundamentals with the stuff these /tip/ guys wear.
i don't dress anything like most of these /tip/ guys but we wear a lot of the same garments bc the shit they wear is nice. they're more business casual to a bit formal. i dress more like a chud from the same time period.
mid century menswear shit isn't the fashion zeitgeist right now they're doing modified y2k and some 80s shit etc but as far as fundamentals go classic menswear shit is really similar in shape fit and the fundamentals, just not as exaggerated. it looks good to wear right now and will for around a decade (outside of its timelessness factor) if you're not in a city that lags in fashion. outside of the timelessness of it.

>>18438877

>>18441268
trouser recs like this?

How to sartorially deal with sweat?

I've thought about carrying a merino wool rag since that material deals well with sweat.
Any other ideas?

>>18451598
gotta be more specific. Just dress slightly lighter and don't sweat lol.

Light sweating wear deodorant and undershirt in winter/autumn. Sweating in summer: just own more linen shirts and sweat in them, don't wear them more than a day.

>>18451603
great idea, I'll tell the sun to shine on me a bit less

sweating is inevitable especially if I start moving any faster than a pensioner so I need a way to deal with it, especially on the face and neck

>>18450930
Cheers m8 I was looking under the wrong section like a retard

Are trousers of the sorts of Casatlantic and Berg & Berg just too high-waisted? Do we look ridiculous in them? I have a weird feeling people find me goofy and awkward when I wear them. I’m tall btw.

Are trousers of the sorts of Incotex and PT Torino just too low-waisted? Do we look ridiculous in them? I have a weird feeling people find me goofy and awkward when I wear them. I'm tall btw.

>>18452192
Show a picture. It depends on the body. However, from what I can see, these are all tapered. All tapered high-waisted trousers look terrible in my opinion. Going from the whole wide torso to the thin ankles just looks weird. High-waisted should only be straight cut or even flared out slightly though the latter is much harder to pull off. That German dude with the magnificently beautiful Barcelona chick pulls it off really well.

>>18452192
Look buddy, it's simple: if you look good, clothes look good on you. On the left, your average 5'9" $80k-something office worker /tip/cel with his $400 high rise wide trouser he bought after hearing Crompton saying that neapolitan tailoring was out of fashion and that the English wide cuts are in. On the right, the actual model, Richard Biedul, 6'3", millionaire influencer, posing to sell said trousers.

>>18452223
Brutal truthpill.

ive been wanting navy chinos but could never think of how to style them, especially since i hate how navy pants look with a jacket. any ideas?

>>18452218
How is this tapered?

>>18452223
Your point is vacuous, completely empty. I could post lots of pictures of models who look handsome but where their figure is ruined by the pants. Here's one.

Before you reply in utter rage, as expected, I recommend you check the pictures for the new summer collection on Berg & Berg website. The model is at least as attractive as Viktor Flumé (both are 9/10) but he looks like utter manure in those trousers, which are the same Flumé wore for the winter collection. Simply put, one has a type of body that works with them, the other doesn't. This anon is correct >>18452218

>>18452418
It is tapered. May not be so obvious because we are so hardwired to see tapered trousers as normal. Irregardless, it looks fine from the side. It's from the front and three quarters where it looks bad. See this >>18452421 for example. That almond shape looks awful.

>>18452433
Here's the German dude pulling off flared plants. It's hard to pull off as the wearer and as the tailor.

>>18452433
Based Rope enjoyer. I'm not sure I agree with your point, though. Here the same trousers look very good. Also, the picture in the post above yours shows a pair from a past collection. Those were tapered, new Berg & Berg's are not.

>>18452438
You have any recs on where to find trousers like that, maybe a little less excessive than those?

>>18434926
Hahahaha ok wagie very cool

>>18452421
Yeah bro arguing for days about silhouettes is definitively not vacuous and empty. Jesus, fucking faggot, just dress how you like, post fit, and shut up

>>18452449
That looks good because the shadows are hiding half of the pants. The legs are also crossed which hides the tapering.

>You have any recs on where to find trousers like that, maybe a little less excessive than those?
Nope, I get all my stuff bespoke. I get "original" size clothes from high-end tailors, and then get them copied by cheap 3rd world tailors (except jackets, suits, anything complicated), however the fabrics still cost a lot. Different fabrics also require different sizes. There's also the consideration whether you are going to be wearing it with a jacket or not.

That said, these kinds of trousers will be everywhere in a year or two. For now, you can just look up buzzwords like "Korean pants," or "old money pants." Alternatively, you can also shop women's sections. Uniqlo's women's wide pleated pants look pretty good. Of course, these are all gonna be garbage synthetics.

>>18434926
I don't think normies can even tell the difference.

>>18452479
>Nope, I get all my stuff bespoke.
Post some pics.

>>18452438
Low-waisted flare pants look like steaming shit, buddy. You fell for the meme.

>>18452484
Nah.

where do you guys get your baseball hats? It doesn't have to be tip just want something casual

>>18452575
just get one with a logo related to something you like, it's the only item where you're "allowed" to do that

>>18452575
Brands i like, local/regional stores, sports leagues, bars i like

>>18452575
Just don’t. Caps are the n1 identifier for lower class intruders who are just larping successionm8wwm

A few days ago, I went for my first baste fitting, and HOLY FUCKING SHIT! Bespoke garments are just on another level. The fit. The feel. The drape. Oh my God.

>>18434527 (OP)
My most conservative opinion I developed as I grew older is that my strict upbringing was good. Collared shirts to school. No playing until piano lessons are done. Strictly no slang in speaking or writing. Standing up when greeting the teacher. Proper table manners.

I was militantly against this when I was 16 or 20. It seems like not even conservatives care about this anymore. It seems like nobody does. You guys get me, right?

>>18453149
Tell me how I know you're a jeet.

>>18442712
you want horn buttons for a shirt? for something that is essentially an undergarment?

>>18453155
I'm 100% German

>>18453149
Fuck off

>>18453149
I'm not very religious but I sometimes help out with the music at my father-in-law's church, and it was absolutely shocking seeing grown men come to church in sweats and baseball hats. The "nice" dressed people are wearing a button up and jeans, and those boomer running shoes. Its just the way things are now. When I was in college most people would show up to their classes wearing sweat pants.

>>18448062
i agree with the other anon, the patch is so light that it looks like there's a hole and you're seeing his arm skin. Maybe once they get broken in a bit it would help.

>>18448062
Timeless classic. It goes out of fashion sometimes, but based brands are always able to bring it back.

>>18448062
P.S.: the way they make half of the shirt artificially flap out beneath the sweater is completely retarded and cringe.

what do you guys like and dislike in a camp shirt? what should i look for? i usually prefer to buy vintage and my wardrobe's more blue collar heritage americana than /tip/ business casual all the time.

>>18453358
tip is a larpmeme and doesn't exist irl

Hey guys is my fit good?

>>18453471
unironically yes

>>18453471
Glad I'm not the only fatty who dresses /tip/

>>18452438
It only looks good when he poses like that. As soon as he start walking around it looks like shit

>>18453158
"Shirts are undergarments" is a thing only 4chan autists say. It was true maybe in Victorian England at most. Italians and Spainiards walked around in loose linen shirts for centuries. Just wearing the OCBD plain is a classic in americana. This literally isn’t a thing you have to worry about, nobody will look at your button down as if you were a woman in lingerie

>>18453644
All trousers look like shit when you walk in them.

Where in Europe can I find long sleeved madras shirts?

>>18453149
i'm with you, my dad was a coast guard officer and he made us behave at least somewhat decently. No swearing ever, stand up straight and speak clearly, say yes sir and thank you ma'am, everyone eats dinner together at the dinner table and contributes to the conversation, etc. They also expected total respect. The concept of talking back to our parents, or arguing with them or saying no was just something that didn't exist growing up.

There are some things I fault my parents for, but being "raised right" was never really one, and now as a parent myself I have additional appreciation for it. You can't be /tip/ without that.

Since I'm on the topic, it turns out that my dad was like, extremely /tip/ during his Academy days. He has a box of rowing jerseys from teams they beat and there are Yale and a bunch of other Ivy names in that box (I guess the tradition was that if you lose you have to give your jersey to the other team). I mentioned that I was ordering some loafers and he told me about how they would wear the "norwegian shoes" and you had to put a big penny in the slot. And a bunch of other stuff, working on a buoy tender on the great lakes in the summer. Anyway, I figured if anyone would enjoy this blogpost, it would be you guys.

>>18453701
>They also expected total respect. The concept of talking back to our parents, or arguing with them or saying no was just something that didn't exist growing up.
>respect means compliance

>>18453712
Lol. Silly trad larper BTFO.

Here's your #oldmoney high rise trousers bro.

>>18453701
Put a coin in the loafers?

>>18453675
proper cloth has madras

>>18453701

You lived, and very likely will always live, as a broken-in slave and underling to what amounts to a prison force. Being unable to speak your mind without punishment, yet commanded to "contribute" with compelled speech. There are household pets that enjoy more affection, understanding and freedom than the average victim of a narcissist-authoritarian family. I would feel awful for you, but I strongly suspect you now have the generational twisted sense of pride in perpetuating the civilisational child chain-gang.

Man is everywhere born in chains, cursed to be descended from primate social necessities. If a conscious species has evolved from big cats, this kind of years-long child-crushing wouldn't occur

>>18453946
Notice the slot penny loafers have in the piece of leather going across the vamp? Yeah, hence the name penny loafer.

>>18453810
This would be based if the guy wearing it didnt simultaneously look 20 and 50

>thread of people larping as rich sons of aristocracy who think dressing like faggots is somewhat historically accurate
>entire thread is a collective demoralization ritual
either kek or grim

>>18454398
>t.

>>18453810
high waisted trousers only work if you have a slim waist

>>18453810
Looks like shit because he's short. Contrary to what 99% of people believe (and 99% of the planet is utterly retarded, this is the sad truth) high-waisted trousers only look good on tall people.

>>18453471
I look and dress like this.

>>18454540
>>18454623
>>18454398
be wealthy, tall, and a model and you'll do just fine

>>18454623
When will you retards understand its body proportions and not absolute measurement? High waisted trousers look good on those with long torso relative to their total height.

Could you guys recommend me a belt? Preferably brown leather.

>>18455008
if you need a belt for trousers you instead need a tailor.

>>18455008
Buy it exactly where you bought the shoes you want to pair it with and choose the exact same type of leather.
>>18455008
Utter nonsense. A belt has nothing to do with whether the trousers fit perfectly or not.

>>18455076
Wrong, unless you mean to remove the loops

>>18455147
>>18455149
Malding /fa/cels. The only time you should wear belts with trousers are if they are hollywood trousers.

>>18455172
Right is kino.

>>18434527 (OP)
loafers in UK 6 are too big, 5.5 are too small. I just spend a day with loafers in UK 6 and a piece of crumpled paper in the tip. They fit perfectly. And the shape felt much more comfortable too. Is this a thing people do? Why is nobody talking about this magic trick?

Trying to figure out the right clothes for hot rainy spring. Seersucker shirt, barbour, chinos, wingtips. Chinos were too light and got wet but shoes did great as usual

>>18455008
Popov Leather and Main Street Forge if you're on a budget but want something better than mallshit, Hank's if you don't mind spending more. Can only attest to these belts personally out of the brands out there. Alternatively, your local Amish community or leatherworker if applicable to your area.

I'm putting a pair of small darts in the back of my jack donelly M3s because I got all retarded whilst ordering them and somehow came to the conclusion that I needed a size 34 even though my normal size is 32... I'm one dart down and they are already fitting much better though.

>>18455008
Havana is the darker brown
https://www.horsesmarts.net/store/equestrian-belts/edge-stitched-leather-belt/

>>18455928
>t. fat widefooted ogre

>>18454623
Stop wearing polos with dress pants you faggots. The only time you should wear a polo shirt with dress pants is if you're playing a sport.

>>18454919
It has nothing to do with proportions, retard. You wear high waisted pants because that's where your natural waist is, so pants are more comfortable when they rest there. That's where people have worn their pants for 1000's of years.

Also, he isn't even wearing those high waisted pants at his waist but sagging them like a n*gger at mid rise level. High waisted pants are supposed to sit above your hip bones and at your belly button, not held up by your ass.

>>18456093
>1000's of years
Retard

he is just posting models from like 1960s...
like it's been 80 years grandpa just let go

How much should a sports jacket restrict my movement? Should I be able to raise them sideways or in front of me without the jacket moving around or constricting my body?

>>18456113
Pants weren't invented in the 1800's, retard. They have been around since the ice age in one form or another.

>>18456115
Nigger, where do you think the ivy prep style comes from? Yeah, the 1950's and 60's.

Is button-down a sin on linen shirts?Or can button down be done on more fabrics than oxford cloth?

>>18456125
It shouldn't be a straight jacket but don't fall for this meme that a jacket doesn't fit right if you can't do judo moves in it

>>18438877
pretty much anything would work with that anon. Navy is a really versatile color

>>18456093
>t. >>18453810

is helmet bag dare i say /ourbag/?

>>18456269
>DEI model
no

>>18456269
the nylon clashes hard with the outfit they themselves picked
i like canvas or waxed canvas bags
>>18456093
autism
>>18453810
it looks bad because of proportions. doesnt matter what height he is if the proportions are off. high waisted pants are great but you dont wanna look like a cartoon dad ofc

damn you guys are gay as fuck

>>18456371
>durrrr it looks bayd
It looks "bad" to you only because you're used to looking at low rise faggotry for the past few decades. Before that, that's how people wore their pants for centuries and millennia.

>>18456456
Please go back to spamming pictures of hippies in harem pants

>>18453149
>Collared shirts to school
>Standing up when greeting the teacher.
Same. Bong here, we we're not allowed to take our blazers off unless the teacher told us.

Can my tailor shorten long knit sweater?

>>18456609
Show me old clothing with a low rise.

Low rise was a late 90’s and millennium trend, mostly for women, to make it look like their pants were sliding off in a “sexy” manner. The same was for men soon after where Abercrombie models would show their Adonis belts and make it look like they were stripping off their jeans. Such pants are 100% form over function.

>>18453712
>respect means compliance
Yes it does. A dumb brat doesn't know what's good for him. Until he is an adult, he listens to his parents and doesn't contradict them. He won't get it now, but he will thank them when he has grown up and gained some life experience and wisdom. So, fuck off with your "muh rebellion" degeneracy that was taught to you by the kikes and other subversive rats in order to destroy the family unit and the culture of the nation.

>>18452438
those look like shit

>>18456796
why don't you ask your tailor?

>>18456890
Respect means "admiration felt or shown for someone or something that you believe has good ideas or qualities". IE the child respects their parents because he/she genuinely believes they know what they're talking about, not because he/she's being barked orders at. Submission is not respect. Saying "yes sir" because you were taught to is not respect.

>>18456918
I can't trust him, he says yes to any job

https://imgur.com/a/dukes-of-britain-mDwVMIn

>>18456920
And you can keep that libshit kikery in your university where it belongs. What the fuck would a dumb brat know about which idea is good or bad? His job is to respect and obey his parents because they know what's good for him, because they have tried and tested these ideas themselves in their life for years and learned from their own mistakes and experiences.

Obeying your parents is also about inculcating discipline and self-control. Just because your dumb juvenile brain thinks it's smart doesn't mean it actually is. You're still a brat who hasn't seen the world. So STFU and listen to people who actually have real life experience on things you aren't even capable of imagining.

>>18456269
I use a similar bag. Interesting. How did you come across this brand besides it just being Japanese and commonly used by salarymen over there?

>>18456371
>i like canvas or waxed canvas bags
I think that's too much when it's paired with tweed. I can't really formalize my thoughts on this such that it makes a ton of sense, but I. mean if I am wearing a tweed blazer and leather soled shoes, adding a leather or waxed canvas bag to that seems too costumey. Same reason I avoid ironing among other things. It's about having a put together sense of style, without it also coming off as too strict and defined. Its more of I just have this in my closet and these are all my clothes and this is normal to me, as opposed to the actual description which is being an OCD schizoid trying to present as normie and fit in so I can exist in an office setting and make money to live. At least, that's how I've always seen this clothing style and I've never leaned too heavily into the flag statement pieces like Barbour waxed jackets, flashy pastels or what have you. I just follow the Kamakura classics/vintage ivy loookbooks, and the oxfordclothbuttondown blog. These threads as well, I am very thankful to all of you for either actually letting me, or maybe just giving me the confidence to go about my day and feel like a normal human being.

/tip/ opinion on glasses?

>>18457138

>>18457149
tortoise shell or full metal
no brightly coloured lenses
try to avoid luxottica

>>18457154
Are there still manufacturers that make glasses from literal horn or tortoise shell?

I feel like a model of frames is called "horn" they mean out of plastic but colored as if it was horn.

>>18457513
Most nice material now is Japanese acetate. If you want old horn you can always buy vintage frames. I'm assuming horn ages much nice than acetate anyhow.

>>18457516
In other words horn or tortoise shell framed glasses don’t exist anymore except for secondhand?

>>18457527
Matsuda still makes horn glasses sometimes, but tortoise shell has been banned since the 70s.

>>18456955
nice album anon, I'm enjoying these photographs. Mind if I save some of them?

>>18457619
They're all yours my friend

>>18457030
>And you can keep that libshit kikery in your university where it belongs.
It's a good thing people like you willingly deny themselves the education that'd otherwise allow them to go higher in life than being a plumber or a car mechanic.

>His job is to respect and obey his parents because they know what's good for him, because they have tried and tested these ideas themselves in their life for years and learned from their own mistakes and experiences.
Everyone learns from their mistakes and experiences. Everyone has to test their ideas and see what works and what doesn't. That's how humans work. You never learn by reading a manual, you learn by making mistakes, fixing them and then preventing them from happening again.
>Obeying your parents is also about inculcating discipline and self-control.
Self-control quite literally means self-control, not control by an external force. You can spend 20 years telling your child to go to bed at 10 PM, but the second you stop doing that he/she'll stay awake until 3 AM because a) there's nobody to force him/her into bed and 2) he/she does not see the REASON to go to bed at 10 in the first place. Because you never told him/her, all you did was bark orders.
>You're still a brat who hasn't seen the world. So STFU and listen to people who actually have real life experience on things you aren't even capable of imagining.
>I am right because I have lived longer and THAT gives me the ultimate superiority over your opinions and I can just dismiss them!
I've met a lot of people in my life and those who think their perspective is somehow superior to that of others because of their age are either dumb or raised by servicemen. No free-willed people with parents that treated them as more than subordinates bully themselves into that mindset.

>>18457636
>It's a good thing people like you willingly deny themselves the education that'd otherwise allow them to go higher in life than being a plumber or a car mechanic.
I'm talking about your liberal arts university degrees not proper education in real sciences.
>You never learn by reading a manual, you learn by making mistakes, fixing them and then preventing them from happening again.
Yeah goy, keep reinventing the wheel like a moron instead of learning from the success and failures of your predecessors and building upon them. This is the kind of braindead individualism and narcissism I'm talking about. This is how women think, not men. If men started thinking like that then they would have never built civilization. Probably why western society is collapsing these days, because it succumbed to this effeminate mindset peddled by liberalism.
>muh free-willed people
>respect and discipline is muh bullying
More woman brained faggotry.

And btw I'm not the yacht pic guy or trying to samefag as him.

>>18457636
high iq post
>>18457657
low iq post

>>18457657
>I'm talking about your liberal arts university degrees
I majored in economics, actually.
>Yeah goy, keep reinventing the wheel like a moron instead of learning from the success and failures of your predecessors and building upon them.
You don't reinvent the wheel precisely because you understand why it rolls, not because you were told it does. Religiously following obscure principles set by people who never bothered to explain them to you is not "learning", you're just parroting what was bashed into your head for eighteen years straight. You never try to see those from any other side, you never try to prove why 2 multiplied by 2 equals 4 and not 6 or 3. All you see is a dogma etched in stone, stone that nothing can grow in because there's nowhere to put any roots.

>>18457709
>I majored in economics
That's worse than a gender studies degree ngl. I honestly find trannies to be less delusional than academic economists.

>>18457619
Yeah they're not mine. It was an actual photographer's project, documenting minor nobility in the UK.

>>18457030
You clearly don't have children. Children are inquisitive and capable of reason at an early age. A four year old is going to ask non stop questions as to why things are what they are, and they will verify this with their other parent, grandparent, or you again a few days later to get a solid grasp of a concept and verify how true it is in his group.

Children are also intuitively capable of understanding fairness. It's the fastest way to teach math concepts curiously enough. Being told to do things just because you told them to do it, in the manner you're presenting now, is a fast way to lose respect from a child just like beating a dog isn't going to make him respect you.

You also don't understand what discipline is. Colloquially and in the positive sense you want to foster in others, discipline maps to self control or self mastery which is driven by internal locus.

Finally, your age has a low correlation with what you have or have not seen in the world. Trying to utilize that as a position of leverage shows how little experience and value you actually have.

>>18457636
>I've met a lot of people in my life and those who think their perspective is somehow superior to that of others because of their age are either dumb or raised by servicemen.

Disagree. The bulk of service members are enlisted, and all of them will at some point experience having a younger superior officer. Most of them will experience a fellow younger enlisted out rank them. It's a good place to learn true merit independent of age, race or origin.


>>18457657
>keep reinventing the wheel like a moron instead of learning from the success and failures of your predecessors and building upon them.

These aren't mutually exclusive. Reinventing the wheel does not remove the existence of the wheel, it simply allows you to interact with the underlying principles of the concept rather than taking it as a completed abstraction. It's how education works. You're an idiot.

>>18457756
I have no dog in this fight since both of you are degenerates…

But being socially right wing and economically left wing is the most polar opposite to being tip possible

Neoliberal economics (deregulation, tax cuts, but respecting institutions) is awesome. Being socially progressive (respecting trans identities, being feminist etc) is awesome. If you’re not, we can immediately tell that you’re a lower class intruder illegal alien.

Please stop encouraging this autist

>>18457867
There's a difference between education and reinventing things from scratch, you moron. Only fools learn from their own mistakes. The wise learn from the mistakes of others and stand on the shoulders of giants. They don't ignore what came before them and start right from the beginning. They learn from their elders, build upon them, and pass it down to their own children. It's called culture, something you libshit homosexuals and trannies wouldn't understand. No wonder any country that follows your subhuman style of individualism and narcissism eventually collapses.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming—

Now that summertime has rolled around, what's everyone's thoughts on pairing 'whimsical' trousers with a blazer or a sport coat? By whimsical I mean lobster red, baby blue, shamrock green, yellow, and perhaps even lilac.

The older I get the harder I find it to wear my colorful pants. I typically am reaching for brown, off-white, or dark green to wear with a jacket in the summer. Sometimes I can pull off the baby blue, but I find the other colors to be a bit much and think they look a bit faggy nowadays. Personally, I've never been a huge fan of that Nantucket look, but I enjoyed peacocking in my youth.

The colorful trousers tend to make my outfits visually bottom heavy as well. Any ideas on how to incorporate them, or should I pass them along? For example, lilac trousers with a ecru jacket and black shoes. My big problem is what fucking button up am I supposed to wear with this?? I can only wear white because the pants are colorful, but I'm wearing an off-white jacket. FUCK

>>18457883
What the hell are you talking about?0gy

>>18458149
If you wear colorful pants then your entire outfit needs to be colorful (kind of like 70's style clothes), or else it will look bottom heavy, like you said. Patterned colorful pants are easier to pull off with plainer shirts and jackets.

>>18458149
>'whimsical' trousers
I hate them. Go to hell pants are for try hards.

>>18458149
I did that as a high school kid but won’t any more. White trousers work well with shorts you might not commonly wear like pink, or a madras, but that’s it. Dressing conservatively works best if you’re already going to have a statement piece somewhere else.

What wool do you all recommend for trousers. I have tried VBC 110 worsted and flannel. They are real cheap and nice but too soft and silky for me. I am hoping to find something stiffer.

People in /tip/ do get their stuff bespoke right?

>>18458267
No I just buy off the shelf. Idk anime here that gets everything bespoke outside of just suits.

>>18458277
So, everyone in /tip/ is a larping fraud. As expected.

>>18458267
>People in /tip/ do get their stuff bespoke right?

Get MTM stuff. It way less of a deal as "bespoke" sounds. Trousers from Suitsupply or ProperCloth are like 200-300 bucks via online shopping. It's not a fancy pants tailor with a monocle and a bazillion dollar hourly rate or something like that

>>18458303
>everyone in /tip/ is a larping fraud. As expected.
Yep. It's all middle class incels with an engineering degree and an unimpressive 60k job. Nobody is old money here. And this hobby is way less expensive than the average photography nerd or audiophile.

>>18458303
This always comes up and I don’t know what you’re expecting? Why do you think this is some rich person social club thread? The thread is about classic menswear to look normal and put together. What part of traditional ivy prep makes you think it’s handmade custom everything?

>>18458310
Don’t want to open a can of worms with this topic but middle class in the US as a single income is 100k now, average. 60k is what a high school diploma tradie makes. No one with an engineering degree is making less than than six figures starting out. Hell even our interns this summer are getting paid more than 60k if they were an intern for the entire year…

>>18458315
How is it that people cannot afford bespoke or at least MTM clothing while making six figures? You can never look /tip/ with off the rack clothes. It just doesn't work. No wonder, it's only that Peruvian suit guy who looks good in this entire board.

>>18458324
You can afford something and not feel like it’s needed. I just buy off the Kamakura catalogue and have pretty much everything they sell. Works well and fits me fine. If you order from Japan you can adjust sleeve length in your order. I have added 2cm to sleeve length for the second order I ran. Pants also come unhemmed so they need to be hemmed after you get them. Besides that everything fits fine.

A lot of it too just comes down to not looking like a freak with everything too perfect. I don’t know about you, but I don’t iron my shirts and just hand flatten my pants after hanging everything up to dry, to maintain an air of casualness. It’s the entire cohesive value of the wardrobe that makes you look good, but nothing is too perfect to make it appear as if it were intentionally trying hard as opposed to you just having stuff in your closet and effortlessly wearing it.

If you have a weird body shape then sure I can see you needing everything MTM. Brands I’ve had trouble with are j press and spier and mckay. If you’ve had similar issues I get it. Maybe you should keep checking out brands so you don’t overspend on just shirts.

>>18458336
Sorry, but this just sounds like cope.

>>18457883
>calls other anons degenerates
>promotes tranny shit
oh my god please stop posting.

>>18458315
the specific dollar number doesn't matter. We both agree that this isn't an expensive hobby. One does not need to be "old money"-level rich to participate

>>18458315
>What part of traditional ivy prep makes you think it’s handmade custom everything?
The "traditional" part.

>>18458615
There is a difference between larping as a college student from the 60s and larping as a Boston Brahmin. Not many people do the latter.

Another otherwise nice thread derailed.

ok rate their fits

Would wearing a henley with suspenders as loungewear in 2025 be too autistic?

>>18459580
Just buy some flannel pajamas

>>18459580
I lounge around in my more beat-up OCBD's

Uniqlo x wrangler

I know loafers in general have been trendy for a while but I mostly see penny loafers and suede loafers.
Will a shell cordovan tassel loafer (alden 563 to be specific - i found it while thrifting) look good in the same fits people wear with penny loafers?

>>18459619
Yes, absolutely.

This seasons button down from Workers in Japan is an absolute banger

do you goys know who make good corduroy pants? I want straight fit pants with as little tapering as possible that arent made of chinesium. thus far only raplh lauren has had anything promising. budget is 400€ max.

>>18459630
Suitsupply has corduroy that is 100% cotton (rare for corduroy) and you can choose whatever straight fit you want

>>18459630
Berg&Berg

Most tip watch band?
Brown leather? Colorful nylon?

>>18459771
Highly dependent on the watch and the occasion I think. A Timex on a colorful strap is quintisentially tip but I wouldn't wear it all the time.

anyone have experience with Natalino pleated wool trousers?

Is this madras?

>>18434529
There's absolutely nothing wrong with elastane.
Imagine wanting less comfortable and functional clothes because some contrarian loser on the interwebs told you that modern high-tech materials are... LE BAD!

>>18458324
Dude. Read anything about Ivy style (or go anywhere that actual Ivy type people go) and you'll know everyone is wearing OTR except for some suits. Brooks Brothers literally created the concept of OTR clothes.

>>18459497
left dude: handsome with a flattering choice of glasses, but the blue suit without tie just cheap uniform core and the shoulders look overly extended
right: actually a creative solid fit but i dont think the color of the tie complements the rest at all

>>18459497
Right looks like a tryhard hipster retard. Left would have looked great if he wore a tie. But that wouldn't have been "muh casual" for the nu-male who is too afraid of looking proper and formal.

>>18459618
nice fades on them rump wranglers the shirt's perfect with them

I can’t wait until that Twitter faggot gets deported.

>>18460754
>go anywhere that actual Ivy type people go
Actually ivy type people don't wear ivy.

>>18461025
Has he ever posted a fit? Just one?
The OCBD blog guy to me is still the definitive king of this hobby, he also has a successful life and has posted his fits and face.

>>18461167
He's an ugly manlet but he's very knowledgeable about tailoring. Ask anyone who's seriously into bespoke clothing. He knows his shit, but this board is clearly too poor and contrarian to realise that.

>>18461192
But this isn’t a bespoke clothing thread. Calling everyone you disagree with poor is no different that coming in here telling people they have a small dick. It’s irrelevant. This also isn’t a rich person thread, and knowing about tailoring and technical detail doesn’t make you rich or an authority on wardrobe choices which is more art. Lastly It’s classic menswear, it’s already solved. There are no new undiscovered innovations or analysis to make.

>>18461204
>classic menswear
>not bespoke
Poor cope again.
>Calling everyone you disagree with poor
You are right. It's not that you all are poor: it's just that you don't care about menswear enough to invest the time into bespoke clothing despite all the inspos and magazines you post with people clearly wearing bespoke or at least MTM clothing.

>>18461206
You’re right I don’t care enough, I just copy the catalogue so I don’t look like ass at work.
I’m also tall and thin and don’t need bespoke to fit my body to not look gross like a chunky Vietnamese or a squatemalan

It’s also not LARP for me to dress this way as it’s how my parents and grandparents dressed. Some brown rando dressing like this is cope and larp, no amount of studying or trying to make or it work is actually going to work. It’s like a white guy in Japan wearing a kimono.

>>18461204
>knowing about tailoring and technical detail doesn’t make you an authority on wardrobe choices

>>18461225
Tailoring and technical details are general case properties. /tip/ is specific case and the details you’re specifying are auxiliary as in, lower quality clothing can conform and be readily identified as /tip/ visually. Higher quality clothing is not by definition, /tip/
This seems pretty simple to understand.
Again, this clothing style is already solved. There is nothing new to add, it’s in maintenance mode where people will review brands for optimizing quality per dollar. But no amount of technical knowledge can change what is already frozen in time

>>18461047
Depends on the people and situation.
>>18459618
Birkenstocks would look way better

Are wizard robes for around the house loungewear considered tip?

>>18434527 (OP)
I'm currently rewatching "Friends" and ... man ... 99% of the time it feels like culture has not advanced the slightest bit. And besides Smartphones tech has not either on a surface level. But then there are guys like this. Sure the trad/tip archetype still exists now - but it was so normal and unspectacular back then. If I was wearing a Winchester shirt and a tie - even to a fancy Michelin type restaurant - I would stand out as the old fashioned guy

>>18457148
>heavily into the flag statement pieces like Barbour waxed jackets
when did it become a statement piece? do normies view it as such just because it has a collar?

Do Brooks Brothers shoes run wide or narrow? I wear a 10EEE in Florsheim for reference. Would 11.5D fit the same?

Which one bros? I have a brown belt and cordovan like loafers.

>>18462037
Can't go wrong with navy

>>18434527 (OP)
In case anyone is ordering from kamakura too: do not order "J Tech easy care". It's a polyesther blend - even tho it appears when you filter for cotton.

I'm red like a lobster due to allergy right now lol

>>18434527 (OP)
I love this hobby but the amount of stuff I bought only for me to realize 6 months later that it isn't 100% of what I wanted ... such a waste of money.

I tried white socks instead of going barefoot. Not sure if i like it. I like the shortness of the pants tho.

>>18462118
That's too short when cuffed and the white socks are too casual to wear with a tie

>>18462125
Yeah i know its too short. I like it a lot. Yeah agreed on the socks.

>>18462118
the pants would probably be bordering on too short even if they weren't cuffed- you need to uncuff them asap, it looks terrible, like some french pirate or something.

Once you uncuff the pants, I think you can probably get away with white socks + the tie though... maybe switch the white shirt out for a cream or stripes to dress it down slightly.

is doug still around? the austrian school shooter bears an uncanny resemblance

>>18462118
where did you get those loafers from, looks nice

I don’t use this board. Where can I buy decent oxfords now that Brooks Brothers sucks? I bought some from Proper Cloth after seeing it shilled online but they suck.

>>18462125
White socks is pretty based, also what I wear all the time fuck everyone else.


>>18462205
Manlet? Kamakura. Normal white human size? J press. These are the off the shelf shirts that work well, you can buy in bulk, zero thought required.

>>18462246
i'm Man sized and my OCBDs from kamakura fit well. They have their "new york fit", or whatever it's called, for taller and broader wearers. It's for white man measurements.

>>18462201
paraboot

>>18462072
I fell for that too once. 200 bucks straight into the bin lmao

>>18461025
This is him btw

is this the only /tip/ reality tv show?

>trying to read old /tip/ threads
>warosu is the only /fa/ archive I can find
>can't find any threads older than march 2020

>>18461025 >>18462639
Sorry but this loathing kind of racism is extremely lower class coded. Only poors are this obsessed with this stuff.

>>18462639
>>18462733
Oh no no no no no no hahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>18462805
let's be honest. MAGAs are usually losers. They're whiny pathetic 20yo insels or divorced dads. They're the lowest in the pecking order at work. They are unnoticed by women, especially by hot women. They're losers but feel unfairly treated and want revenge.

Real heritage americans - the real tip kind - are woke turbo capitalists. Somewhere between bill clinton and ronald reagan.

>>18462849
this is bait, don't respond.

>>18462805
Nigga tuckin in a cable knit in summer linen pants…

>>18462639
>>18462805
My respect for a lot of his knowledge makes me find it hard to believe these pictures are him (especially since there’ve been several fake leaks), but then I think of all the retarded shit he says he likes/is cool and believe it.

Alright folks. I wore my first loafers twice but will put the in the basement now. I can’t. It looks too feminine for me. Normally i‘m not the kinda guy who is too preoccupied with what looks masculine or feminine- but this was too much for me.

>>18463125
post a pic of them. I get where you're coming from, homosexuals have been in gay versions of loafers for a long time and give them a bad look because of it. But loafers are based regardless.

>>18463125
Just wear boat shoes, they're loafers for heterosexuals.

What is the Spier and Mackay equivalent in europe? I can't be paying that much for transport, duties, fees and taxes

Has anyone got a recommendation on espardrilles? I'm not willing to spend $100 on a shoe that is intended to be very cheap and simple. I'd just buy a $25 pair off Amazog, but they all seem to have this horrible wedge of elastic fabric sewn into the top of the shoe.