/btg/ BOOT GENERAL - >TRUMAN EDITION

What do I need to care for my boots?
>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)
>Horsehair brush ($10-15)
>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)
>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bck4/renovateur
>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP
>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest them

How do I deal with x stain?
>mud: allow it to dry then brush off
>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible
>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper
>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush

>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?
No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.
>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're good
no. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.
>Are Thursdays any good?
no.

Manufacturer Red Flags
>Luxury
>Bespoke
>Sustainable
>Vegan
>Unknown leather source
>Made in Chyna/Mexico/Indonesia

Boot Red Flags
>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)
>C*rk/C*lastic
>Zippers
>Non gusseted tongues
>Excessive/unnecessary seams
>Combination/mixed material heels

Boot Brands NO
>Turdsdays
>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters
>any Whatsapp makers in the far east

PREV>>18447196

any recommendations for what to use with chelsea boots that look like dress shoes? (you know, pointy at the end instead of round)
also what type of pants? can i pull of with jeans or should i get a pair of trousers?

>>18457208
If the boots are dark enough denim is fine, though you'll mostly want to dress them up with chinos or maybe gurkha pants if you're feeling a bit adventurous

>watching one of those japanese shoe maker asmr videos
>wholecut oxfords (love me wholecut footwear)
>cork
closed it right there

>>18457209
they are black
thanks lad, will try with denim

>>18457205 (OP)
Funny thing is if you were to contact Truman and complain about this Vince the owner will yell at you and call you a piece of shit trying to scam him and ruin his business and then post you on social media
Fuck that guy and fuck his shitty company

>>18457211
shut the fuck up already

>>18457220
there must be so much wrong for those boots to even pass a wayward glance much less the expected qc
truman is beyond fucked. vinjce is too busy molesting his boots with sneaker soles

>>18457220
He's racist though which makes me want to support him. I'd definitely buy a pair if I lived in the US.

>>18457223
Your boots rot bro

>>18455605 (me)

>>18457244
Racist towards whites because he sells subpar products.

>>18457205 (OP)
Is this a good test for shoes and boots?

guys is it over for me?
I really want to get russel moccasins and havent found anything even remotely close to scratching that itch

Not the anon from the last thread who asked about Wyatts but, why shouldn't I buy from Vietnamese stores? I think it having Blake/McKay construction alone is good enough of a reason to get them.

>>18455605
>>18457266
nice boots

>>18457323
>zipper
>vietnamese
>vietnamese zipper
>with a harness
I think you should buy 20 pairs

>>18457402
Laces are ugly, anon. I want my boot to look sleek.

>>18457438
one, no they aren't
two, buy chelseas then

>>18457458
Are elastic panels really that much better than zippers? Seems like some sacrifice is going to be made for aesthetics either way.

>>18457461
>elastic panels
what?
>that much better than zippers?
zippers are literally the worst

Where can I get boots that don't look like cowboy or gay?

>>18457493
at the boot store

>>18457205 (OP)
So now that Troonman has removed themselves from contention, what iis the current recommended list for good boots?

what's the opinion on pull up leather here

>>18457493
>>18457571
I quite like my pair of Grant Stone Brass Boots in Crimson Kudu.
That's just me though

>>18457571
In the 300-500 USD weight class Truman is in, it's really just
>Red Wing
>Grant Stone
>Parkhurst
At least for North American brands

shitposting from the office

>>18457859
from the thumbnail it looked like you had two different boots on

>>18457220
Pretty sad becuase up until a few years ago they were pretty reliable. What even happened to them?

>>18457205 (OP)
Any good combat boots for 200 euro +- 50 that are good for walking (10k+ steps a day)? I'm used to hiking boots and now normal boots feel like shit, but I also got a job where I can't look autistic so I can't wear the hiking boots anymore.

>>18457921
...and you think combat boots is LESS autistic?

>>18457922
Compared to my ugly ass hiking boots yes

>>18457924
anon pls

I've had my Iron Rangers since 2009 and love them. I don't have black boots. Would it be retarded to get a second pair in black? I don't care about the clown shoe toebox, I just want good quality black boots

>>18457990
not in the way you imply but yes

>>18457321
Save up and get some. Or the Rancourt and Co Harrison Boots could be the Russel Moccasins we have at home.

>>18458001
What about one of the other Red Wing models?

>>18458001
no if the last fits you well go for a second pair

>>18457630
>>Red Wing
Haha...no.
>>Grant Stone
Chinkshit

>>Parkhurst
Probably just them and Viberg now.

I saw someone wearing a pair of Derby shoes with two chunky blue stripes running along them and a glossy, vinyl-like finish. They were super distressed, so I’m guessing they might have been vintage, maybe old Doc Martens? AI image to help visualise - can anyone help id?

>>18458335
>distressed plastic
call me vintage because I'm also distressed

>>18458326
Grant Stone is good quality chink shit. The stitching quality of an 8 year old Uyghur's child hand on their Xiamen Island labor camp is absolutely top notch

>>18458419
cheap beginner boots that look like shit

>>18458419
only good for Mocs

>>18458716
why do they look kinda deflated?

>>18458726
Because they're unlined

>>18458716
>unlined suede chukkas
>$1115
lol fuck off, Jewberg.

>>18458726
high instep

>>18457571
There are so many good boot brands that even old Truman were nowhere near

Addict Clothes
Alden
Attractions
Black Sign
Clinch
Crockett & Jones
Edward Green
Gaziano & Girling
John Lobb 1849
John Lofgren
R.M. Williams
Role Club
Rolling Dub Trio
Skoob Boots
The Flat Head
Viberg
Wesco
White Kloud
White's
Y'2 Leather
Zerrows Boots

>>18458780
>Alden

>>18458793
>Alden
One of the weaker links there, but some of their offerings are good, especially in shell cordovan.

https://viberg.com/products/service-boot-2030-bct-black-hatchgrain-shell-cordovan

pretty nice despite the hatchgrain pattern

>>18458716
I wanna put my dick in that.
>>18457859
Kudu brass boots are versatile as fuck. Much better than some of the meme boots pushed in this general.

>>18458811
>Kudu brass boots are versatile as fuck
i think between the crimson kudu and earth those are the signature leather for the brass
the crimson kudu is amazingly versatile and i find myself defaulting to it when i cba to pair other colors

>>18458419
They adopted a business model that pushes factory defects past QC and hoping that customers don't notice/care before the return deadline. The end result is incentive for shit quality boots.

>Thursday boots le bad
Will never understand this mentality. I've been wearing their rugged/resistant leather whatever for years and just brushing it down has kept it in awesome condition

>>18458749
>>18458771
I see

ViBERG

Is it gay to want boots with a 4cm heel?

>>18459075
depends on the boot

>>18458811
>>18458814
I literally found out about Grant Stone a day before buying the boots and noticed those Crimson Kudus were in my exact size on discount. How lucky can a guy be?
Now I need to find some good socks that can endure hikes and look okay in the office. Any suggestions?

>>18459172
Darn Tough
>inb4 Reddit, overpriced
It just werks
But really any decent wool sock with cushioning is fine.

>>18459172
darn tough

>>18459234
>overpriced
but they are for life(as long as the company doesn't go under) so it doesn't matter right?

>>18459262
They actually honor that lifetime warranty, so it pays for itself. Might not be as worth it if you're not in the US though, but they do last as long as people say

>>18459262
yes but a lot of people look at up front cost and not over life cost

>>18459266
>Might not be as worth it if you're not in the US though
they have an eu website that seems to work the same
>but they do last as long as people say
good to hear
>>18459268
well I've been looking at them like that and I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on two pairs(to get free shipping)

>>18459172
>Now I need to find some good socks that can endure hikes and look okay in the office. Any suggestions?
Anonymous Ism

timbs are the only boots i;ve ever had. they are really comfortable, versatile and stylish.

>>18459172
Darn Tough, as others have said. Fox River is comparable quality and offers some things DT doesn't. Smartwool if you dance at the other end of the ballroom. LL Bean if you don't actually care because you're a normie.

tell me about thursdays, why do their rubber always chip

>>18459172
To add to my last post, I often wear my Crimson Kudu Brass Boots by Grant Stone with Fox River's Gibraltar Frontier Extra-Heavyweight Mid-Calf Boot & Field Socks. Those socks are heavyweight as fuck for northeast winters but work pretty well as a 3 season if you don't run hot. They also give me a snugger fit in the Floyd last.

>>18459359
too flexible

>>18459359
*does
You almost had it, Ranjeesh.

*attaches golden banana sticker to your lapel*

>>18459266
nah their EU site is very good, i exchanged before, took 4 days back and forth. Price is alright too, like 10% more when considering VAT.

>>18459172
I recently tried Balega running socks. They're good. Just as expensive as other specialty sock brands though.

Oiling my whites 350 fixed tbe squeaks. Thanks for the anons that helped. And no thanks to the anon that thought I was making it up.

>>18459482
so where were they squeaking? between the tongue?

>>18459483
the squeak is coming from inside the dominican republic

>it was real in my mind
ah ok schizo hours

>>18459234
>>18459236
Will do, hoping for a Father's Day sale soon
>>18459354
>>18459364
Thanks for the alternatives. Will definitely look at them too
The current socks I have are the Costco brand wool socks. They've been good so far and great for the price, but they're not that cushioning for the stuff I've been doing
Consider this payment for good advice, anons! One of the Chinese ladies I've been talking up. I thought she was a catfish based on her polished photos (good makeup skills, sometimes beauty filter on) but then she started sending me unique photos of mundane crap around her house out of the blue. Then the unedited photos of herself. Sometimes I get "behind the scenes" pictures like this one or a photo of all the clothing she was to wear for the day. All because I'm a "warm man" that knows a bit of poetry and opened up with some flowery idioms in her dms.

Funny, maybe buying those chink made Grant Stone boots was destiny or some shit

>>18459546
Stop interacting with Chinese honeypot spies, you fucking retard. Expect to get flagged and bagged by DHS for unknowingly violating espionage laws.

>>18459548
I've been using chink social media long enough to filter the wumaos from ordinary people shitposting and sending each other cat photos.

>>18459546
>One of the Chinese ladies I've been talking up. I thought she was a catfish based on her polished photos (good makeup skills, sometimes beauty filter on) but then she started sending me unique photos of mundane crap around her house out of the blue. Then the unedited photos of herself. Sometimes I get "behind the scenes" pictures like this one or a photo of all the clothing she was to wear for the day. All because I'm a "warm man" that knows a bit of poetry and opened up with some flowery idioms in her dms.
maybe i abandoned r9k because they were right

Chelsea boot recommendations? I want a tall-ish heel with it, ideally.

>>18459566
rm williams gardeners

>>18459569
I heard RM Williams went to shit, not true?

>>18459566

Thoughts on Carolina Boots? Got myself about 300 bucks to blow, and thinking of getting Sarge 6" Soft Toe Work Boot

(Pic unrelated. Got it from a random infographic. Can someone identify? Interested to know if its real or not.)

>>18459688
They expectedly dipped in quality under LVMH's ownership, but they're back on the right track with the current Australian owners. You'll know that they're back for good when the MTO program starts back up.

Otherwise your best bet for wholecut chelseas are Viberg and Carmina, especially MTO.

>>18459738
>Can someone identify?
earthkeepers

>>18459688
on some of their offerings like the comfort craftsman they use synthetics to make break in easier, the gardener hasn't changed

>>18459738
>Thoughts on Carolina Boots?
20 years ago, when I still associated with the lower classes, Carolina was held in similar regard to Thorogoods (good) among the laborers.

not boots but leather oxfords, looking for something similar but for mens, thanks /btg/

>>18460107
Go for classic English shoemakers for nice Oxfords anon. Some of them are already in:

>>18458780
>Crockett & Jones
>Edward Green
>Gaziano & Girling

but for shoes I'd also add George Cleverley. Skip John Lobb 1849 if you want RTW, because they don't do it.

There are also brands like Tricker's, Cheaney, Church's, Grenson, Loake, Barker, and so on, but unless you're going bespoke with them, they're not going to be the best that you can get.

>>18460120
Awesome, I'll check these recs out, thanks anon

>>18459482
You’re welcome

did grant stone kill the oxford line?

>>18458810
>hatchgrain
>shell cordovan
¿Por que?

>>18460188
pressed onto shell

You can't hate on them. Perfect summer boots. I've had a pair for years as my main summer boots, now it's time to buy them again.

>>18460191
Pourquoi?

>>18460343
They're cartoonish and silly.

>>18460351
don't care, they're comfy asf

>>18460343
ugly contrast between sole and leather, ugly cheap looking leather, eyelets way too low, generally ugly proportions. The chukkas has already been solved by multiple easily accessible bootmakers.

>>18460358
You do you. I've always been a Clarks fanboy, can't change, won't change.

White's sale is up

>>18457630
White makes a couple in that price range

Is this guy still around? He got some really nice Carlos Santos like 6 months ago. I was wondering if he had any updates.

The right kudu boot definitely broke in faster than the left one, pretty sure from all the driving I do. The constant shifting of the foot between the two pedals to maintain speed in traffic probably has something to do with it.
Now if only I could do the same with my left foot.

>>18460645
switch to manual you pussy and the left one will break in even faster while using the clutch.

>>18460661
Find me a big luxury CRUIIISEERR with modern amenities like a backup camera, heads up display, good sound system from factory, and plush leather seats
And at least a 6 cylinder engine
Something like my 16 Buick Lacrosse but with manual transmission

>>18460667
shit taste. enjoy your left kudu.

>>18460668
Not my fault America stopped producing big fuck off wagons with 8 cylinder engines MINIMUM

anything brown for summer?

>>18460661
I have it on good authority that it is impossible to drive stick in boots

>>18460710
Your authority is shit, I do it all the time.

>>18460721
no he told me it just can't be done

>>18457205 (OP)
Forever thankful I didn't wait too long before pulling the trigger on my Trumans. Seems like the company has gone to complete shit over the past year.

a couple years ago i got some Chelsea style doc martens and they were so tight i fucked my back up putting them on and couldnt walk for a month

>>18460835
ok glassback

>>18460835
Why did you buy them so tight?

>>18460846
i have hobbit feet
normally wear 12s but got 13s since docs run small and they were still to small
>>18460841
shut up

>>18460848
glassback hobbit that can't spell

>>18460848
Sounds like the last just isn't for you then. What's your Brannock HTB and HTT?

>>18460854
havent had my feet measured in years, not really sure desu

>i don't know my size
>but i for sure wear 12s

>>18459483
It was coming from the leather soles. I applied obenaufs oil in there and on the exterior of the boot. No more squeaks.

Your favorite leather conditioners? I have some Lexol and Honey Leather Conditioner at home for the leather seats in my car. I've used the Lexol conditioner so far with good results but I am wondering if there is something a bit better for getting the brass boots more resistant to muck and water.
Yes I did check out the recommended Obernauf but want some other suggestions

White's is 20% off until the 18th

>>18458793
>>18458797
cry all you want, my indys are my favorite boots by far

>>18458903
Thank you Stridewise, very cool!

>>18458903
post them

>>18460858
Just buy one, they're cheap. Much cheaper than buying the wrong sizes for things all the time.

I need these Trickers so bad bros

>>18460889
Bick4 is fine, but really doesn't penetrate that well. It gets the job done and is hard to fuck up, so I used it early on.
VSC is the best all-around.
Renovateur is even better at conditioning but I just use it on my dress shoes because of how expensive it is.
I used the Ashland Tanner's Blend recently because it came as a freebie with my GS Diesels and it seems to perform similarly to VSC, but I can't justify the premium

>>18460889
get a jar of reno

>>18460939
What's stopping you?

>>18460966
I don't have $800 to spend on shoes

>>18460966
>>18460969
That and I have two pairs of black derbies already

What's it like to walk in a boot with a logger heel?

>>18460972
With White's your weight shifts onto your heel subtly but noticeably, more in line with your spine

>>18460940
I'll check out VSC. Thanks!
>>18460943
Tempting for some of the other leather stuff I have. Might get both
Is there a /belt/ general by chance? Or has there been one? I definitely need a new belt and preferably one that is similar in coloration to the crimson kudu.
I did find this
https://brickmortarseattle.com/products/crown-northampton-naked-kudu-snuff-leather-belt-brass-35mm

>>18460939
>>18460969
Really? 800 dollarinos for that abomination of a shoe?

>>18461095
>basic ptb with a lug sole
>abomination

>>18461157
Those eyelets combined with that last look God awful. There are better Tricker's out there.

>>18460889
I like the Redwing Cream Neatsfoot Oil thing. It doesn’t change the colour much after a while and feels better than VSC

>>18460939
Nice. I have a pair in repello and crepe.>>18460969
Find the right size and eBay. Mine were 150 dollars unworn.

>>18461404
How do you like this one? Same last but with blind eyelets
>>18461434
That's a good idea. I'll set up a search alert

>>18461469
the other guy is a retard the blind eyelets look worse

>>18461469
NTA, the shape and the sole pattern are still ugly. But why do you even care, just buy if you like them.

>>18461469
It's a lot better but the last really doesn't look good in these pictures. It might look better on foot in person though, and there are plenty of shoes and boots which don't look great alone in pictures.

>>18460926
No one is crying about Alden but most of the brands in the list are in a completely different league from Alden. Sorry anon.

She's started to sleep next to my boots for some reason

>>18461595
I wouldn't say worse, just different. But I agree with you, I prefer the eyelets on the other pair
>>18461597
It wouldn't stop me from buying them, I was just curious
>>18461601
I don't know, something about the the shape of them just really appeals to me. I like the slightly bulbous toe, but I know some people really hate that. Just for curiosity's sake, what do you think of my current pair of derbies?

>>18461613
Cute. What boots?

>>18461628
I posted this in the last thread. Grant Stone Brass Boots in Crimson Kudu

>>18461615
>I don't know, something about the the shape of them just really appeals to me. I like the slightly bulbous toe, but I know some people really hate that. Just for curiosity's sake, what do you think of my current pair of derbies?

The blind eyelets Tricker's look nicer than your current pair, but that's likely because your pair could do with some care. I can see that your shoe trees aren't really correct for it either and aren't doing any work in getting creases out.

I think generally derbies look better when not in black calf, since derbies are already a casual shoe, whereas black calf is typically seen in formal shoes. Mixing the two means that you can't really beat up or wear in derbies as much as you'd like. Your pair in its current unloved state would look much nicer in a different leather.

>>18461631
not this weirdo again... maybe try talking about boots instead of your chinese woman fetish this time?

>>18461615
Nice. What do you wear those with?

>>18461636
Yeah, that's a picture from the ebay listing I bought them from. I've cleaned them up and put real shoe trees in them, but they're at the cobbler right now getting the heels reglued. I'll post a picture of my own after I get them back. They're 25-30 years old but didn't seem to have been worn often. The soles have almost no wear. I also only paid $45 + shipping for them
>>18461789
All kinds of stuff. I only have one fitpic with them though

>still a month left(at the earliest) until I get my boots
feelsbadman

do you wear boots in the summer?

Thoughts on Jim Green or barefoot boots in general?

>>18461921
You can do a lot worse, they're relatively inexpensive for a non-cemented boot and proceeds go to a good cause

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy_pdkeVII4&list=PLOzFLT3S_I6XfWx9Q0fW1gTPQlUmb68wQ
Literally watched this video a minute ago before I saw your comment

I really want to buy a better quality leather shoe or boots so I have something other than my docs, problem is I can't justify spending any more than $300 and I'd feel like I'm larping as rich

>>18461928
watch the grant stone seconds pade religiously

>>18461914
Yes I wear them in all seasons.

>>18461928
Just buy red wings no one will look at your boots and think you're rich

Veredict on OSB?

>>18462265
not worth it
roided out welting machine is going to fuck up the toe and they're allergic to split welts

>>18462265
They sometimes have interesting limited editions, but mostly not really great. There are a lot of better brands to go for out there.

my $55 dollar basically never worn thursday boots arrived today

for what i paid, they are not that bad. although i have no idea how to style black boots like this, or what color pants and stuff i should wear, other than like black jeans.

>>18462466
>for what i paid, they are not that bad
they are
they look bad

>basically never worn
well you know what they say about fool and their gold...

Do you just go in to a store and ask them to measure your feet with the brannock device and then leave?

>>18462543
You have to at least pretend like you're considering something to buy in their store, but it's easier to just buy your own in case you want to remeasure

>>18462466
>basically never worn
Get a picture of both insoles with flash on. You will see how worn or not it is from the toe imprints.

>>18462543
no you sperg you pretend to buy and say something like the last of the shoe isn't compatible with your foot

>>18461469
I think that's the 4497k last. If you don't like the bulbous toe the s last is more normal.

>>18462543
That's what I did the same day I bought my Brass Boots. Showed up to a Dillard's, had a pretty lady take my foot measurements, complimented her, then started ordering the boots and walked out

Do you guys ever apply some conditioning product to the INSIDE of your leather boots?
Just curious

>>18462698
I've only ever done it with a pair of roughout boots that I've since sold on. Just a bit of Bick 4 on the inside. Don't know if it made any difference

I got some boots that seem to fit fine but after going out on a short walk with them the arch of my left foot was hurting a lot, felt like being stabbed with a needle with every step. Is there any way to fix this or should I get rid of them?

>>18462814
does it happen only with those boots?

>>18462698
Yes. On the insole and leather liner. Make sure you clean out the debris and wipe with water+vinegar. I also condition the welt and the side of the midsole.

picked these up a few days ago, very comfy

think they look pretty good too

>>18462817
Yes.

>>18462896
try an insole first, it's cheaper than the boots and if it doesn't work then get rid of them

>>18462897
Thanks, yeah I guess I've got nothing to lose.

>>18462814
I had this when I was still new to boots and unsure of my sizing. After several months of almost daily wear I gave up and decided to finally measure my feet properly with a Brannock device. Discovered that I was wearing a boot a full size too small. Got rid of it, sized up, and the comfort and support improvement was immediate. Years later I have never experienced such horrendous pain again. Much better to discover this earlier rather than later when your collection is larger.

>>18462814
boot too small

Anyone interested in Jim Green Moctoes? I'm interested in these, but fuck pre-ordering.

>>18463114
i like the sound of the workhorse version

>>18463114
Legit looks like a boot from a video game lel Not sure if that's good or not though

>>18463114
that looks ridiculous

do you size with your heel to ball or heel to toe measurement if one is bigger than the other?

Parkhurst just restocked sizes on their new stitchdowns

>>18463258
you take the bigger one

>>18462984
>>18463053
Could they really be too small when they don't feel tight and there's room at the toe?

>>18461636
Here they are now that the heels have been reglued. I also conditioned them and replaced the laces

>>18463424
yes a boot can be too long in the toe and too tight in the arch at the same time

>>18463425
short king

add this to the pile of overseas makers for cheap lmao

add this to the pile of overseas makers for cheap lmao

>>18463465
$430 for that is insane.

>>18463465
That looks like plastic fake leather lmao.

>>18463480
umm no these spics make VERY good boots mmkay

>>18463114
It's like they glued sneaker soles to loafers and added a higher top to make it look like boots. Fucking Frankenstein shoes.

>>18463476
That's more than what I paid for my kudus holy fuck

>>18463424
Unfortunately yes. Both the heel-to-toe and the heel-to-ball sizes matter. You could perfectly fit in the heel-to-toe but wrongly in the heel-to-ball and end up in a lot of pain. Arch support matters. Same goes for width.

>>18463465
how the flying fuck can the toe crease there?

>>18463644
i'm pretty sure its a lasting issue, they used a super thin dogshit leather that cracked so they didn't apply too much pressure

>>18463645
>mfw i almost bought tukanos

unironically i only trust grant stone and parkhurst at this point

>>18463646
>he thinks the OP is a joke
dude all overseas instagram makers ALWAYS turn out shit

>>18457205 (OP)
Who makes high quality boots in women's sizing? Looking at vintage combat boots to replace my gf's shitty docs atm. Thanks fags.

>>18463482
>super eco-friendly
God I hate how grown adults talk like teenage girls these days.

>>18463656
Grant Stone has a women's combat boot
https://www.grantstoneshoes.com/products/combat-boot-nero-nappa

>>18463656
White's has a woman's line

>>18463646
Help yourself and see:
>>18458780

>>18463691
$435 for Chinese boots?

>>18463919
>Chinese boots
Unironically better QC than most PNW brands. It's the premium chink shit

>>18463122
Yeah, it looks less like a russell moccasin copy.

>>18463656
Grenson has good quality boots in a similar aesthetic to docs with the polished leather and chunky soles but they're pricy.

>>18463656
For highest quality non-MTO go for Edward Green and Crockett & Jones.

What material causes the click clack sound in dress shoes when walking? Does Eaton Vibram have this problem?

I asked fishing general on /out/ and /GQ/ from /k/ , but I think everyone has gone fishing or is eating the forbidden chocolate cum brownies
Guys, I lost 40 lbs and my shit is fucking loose now (inb4 "lost 40 lbs? go find it!)
Recommend me some good breathable shirts with some UV protection and new pants. I don't care if I have to use suspenders. I was looking at stuff like Helikon Tex and MAYBE lightweight wool button down shirts? I like to dress business casual enough to blend into office then immediately go to the streams or lakes without having to change. Currently my favorite shirt is a Beretta field shirt that is long discontinued. Helikon Tex seems nice.
As for pants, I was thinking chinos or similar. Something to pair with the brass boots I have.

>>18464074
It's quite varied. Leather soles, hard rubber, hard plastic, and so on, but it's not really considered a problem like you say. Not sure about the Eton Vibram but it looks very similar to Dainite soles, which does make that sound.

>>18464275
>but it's not really considered a problem like you say
That's fine if you're wearing a suit, but imo it just doesn't go with anything more casual. Anyway, thanks, I'll avoid those types of soles then.

>>18464292
It works just fine with smart casual fits that have jeans or chinos too. It's why even brogues and derbies have that sole type.

Completely up to you and what you feel comfortable wearing of course. If the noise is a dealbreaker for you then no point forcing yourself to wear shoes that make them.

you hear that sound? that's the sound of the roper fag seething again

>>18463465
Thanks for posting. I was seriously considering getting a pair from them. Those are straight trash.

>>18464074
>>18464275
The eton sole is much more soft than dainite. Having pairs with both, the eton is also quieter by a large margin. The softness also helps with grip in the rain compared to dainite, but I do expect it to wear down faster.

>>18464502
Dainite owner here, love the sound but hate the lack of grip on wet or smooth surfaces

Looking for nice casual suede derbies with a low heel, soft rubber sole, in dark brown or dark olive, ideally made from repello. Does anyone know where to get those? Tried tlb mallorca already, they make good dressy shoes but nothing like I want.

>>18464307
Listed a few days ago but already only US 10 and 10.5 left. Clinch products move fast. You need to know exactly what you want and be ready to buy as soon as it drops.

I need a casual nonchunky black leather boot for under 300 any recommendations? Currently wearing these timberland hiking sneakers and looking for something nicer (leather, not hiking shit)

How many boots do you guys own? I keep wanting to buy more but I know I probably shouldn't beyond the three I currently have

>>18464533
How about this:
https://www.skolyx.com/p/yanko-stitchdown-plain-toe-derby-brown-suede

>>18464922
Can't say I really like them, but they're not ugly except for the sole. Could be worth a try if not for it. Anything else similar but with a smooth sole?

>>18464885
Jim Green African Rangers

>>18464895
3 boots and 1 derby. I think with 4-6 boots and 3-5 shoes is my sweet spot.

I think I need to buy a pair of shoes before I buy another pair of boots. I’m looking at loafers or longwings for my next pair. Any recommendations sub 500 USD would be appreciated.

>>18464980
I said NOT hiking shit

>>18464999
It's not hiking shit

>>18465001
It looks exactly like a hiking boot

>>18465004
It might look like one but it's for a completely different purpose. Jim Green has other boots in decent leathers if they're more your style

>>18464885
>for under 300
>

>>18465005
It looks like they sell slight variations of hiking shit

>>18464885
anything good for under $300 will be used. try the recommended brands on in stores to find ones you like and scour ebay/poshmark/wherever else you can get used stuff for something you liked in your size and in decent condition.

>>18465012
what are the recommended brands

>>18463919
Are you going to post this every time GS is posted, fucktard? I'm not buying your overpriced PNW hipster shit. Kill yourself and your kids.

>>18464885
>I need a casual nonchunky black leather boot for under 300 any recommendations?
Get a better job.

>>18465049
Yes
Relax

>>18465049
uh oh chinky stinky

>>18463929>>18463980

My problem with chinkshit is that they're often made for a client company that pretends that the product isn't chinkshit and charges 10x what they paid the manufacturer. GS is no different.

>>18465088
whitelabeling is the term

>>18465088
GS never pretended that their product isn't Made in China. It's on all their marketing and the boots themselves.
At best they can be accused of marketing their product as being Made in China Premium Ethically Made™ Edition.
Whatever the case may be, the quality is generally conceded to be pretty good, even on their seconds.

I want a pair of chisel toe balmorals. Currently leaning towards these from Cobbler Union. Any recommendations?

>>18464933
Velasca makes these with para rubber and natural rubber soles.
https://row.velasca.com/products/cartee-tdms

>>18464895
5 boots, 4 shoes

Will likely add 2 more boots and 1 more shoe at some point

>>18465088
GS chink made is of actual good quality. The source of their labor may be captured Uygher children doing the fine stitching work, but that doesn't detract from the fact the boots are well made and of good leather. I love my Brass Boots in Crimson Kudu and the "Made in Xiamen Island" is proudly placed on the inner side of the boot.

>>18465193
That is a big ass heel. Anyway, thanks for the recommendations, maybe I'm just not into derbies and need to look for the same thing but without the heel at all.

>>18465093
>GS never pretended that their product isn't Made in China.
For a company that isn't pretending, they sure use a lot of English and European words in their marketing.

>>18465232
Would you want them to advertise in Chinese in the English speaking market then, you retard?

>>18465234
No, you fucking retard. Something like "Xiamen Boots Co" selling moc toes they call "Xiongmao" would have been sufficient, faggot.

Regardless, that's not the point, moron. They could be selling these boots for <$300 and still make a decent profit, dipshit.

>>18465232
>box has made in xiamen on it
>each boot has it printed on it
are you retarded?

>>18465012
>bro just go and buy shoes on websites which don't have a refund policy without trying them on first
>also it's gonna cost $300

>>18465347
You need to reconsider your financial situation if you can't afford to toss around $300 on a quality product that can last a lifetime
Especially if you don't properly research your own foot sizing and how that compares to the way the company you're ordering from manufactures them

>>18465348
>You need to reconsider your financial situation if you can't afford to toss around $300 on a quality product that can last a lifetime
No I fucking do not. Not being able to waste $300 on shit which doesn't fit is completely normal
>Especially if you don't properly research your own foot sizing and how that compares to the way the company you're ordering from manufactures them
I know enough to know that I should try boots on before I buy them. Or at least order from somewhere I can get a refund from if they don't fit.

>>18465356
Contact the manufacturer first before ordering, moron. Send them your specs, send in photos of your foot on a brannock, an outline sketch of your feet even. That's what I did with Grant Stone and got the best fitting size recommended to me and they fit quite well out of the box.

>>18465356
You're short of luck then, most quality options start at $300 these days, it would have been a bit different a few years ago. Only other non-chunky (i.e. not Red Wing) option I can think of are Parkhurst Factory Seconds with a promo code - and even then, sizes and colorways tend to be limited.

why shouldnt i just not get redwings

>its the guy who thinks he gets to dictate the price of quality
lol, lmao even

>>18465125
They're good quality, as far as I know. I've got wide feet so I never tried them but a friend has worn a pair of their plain toe boots since 2018 and they've held up very well, even after being resoled twice.

The box my boots came in is now being used as a litter box by this tiny kitten I rescued from an abandoned property during a dog walk
Say hello to Miso

>>18465818
how long until it ends up in your pan chang

>>18465818
That cat is gonna start biting the edges of your boots. Beware

>>18465953
I CLOSE MY EYES AND SEIZE IT
I CLENCH MY FISTS AND BEAT IT
I LIGHT MY TORCH AND BURN IT
I AM THE BEAST I WORSHIP

>>18465953
the kudu is in fact irresistible

>>18466113

>>18465818
size uk 5?

>>18466175
8E US
7.5 UK?

>>18464895
I have six that are in rotation. Sold one the other month and trying to sell another one. I think eight is too much.

>>18466135
UwU
Lup it

>>18464895
5 now, 2 on order, thinking about 2 more after that. I'll be set after that, and I do regularly rotate through all but 1 pair.

Why the fuck are the only non-ugly boots on the planet always only made by guidi and also cost a grand.
What do bros? Just go for it?

>that white trash kid who won't buy Grant Stone
Not like you could afford it anyway. Stick to your American made walmart Brahamas.

>>18465356
>No I fucking do not. Not being able to waste $300 on shit which doesn't fit is completely normal
If you're too poor to play, stay off the field. Getting really tired of all these poors trying to have a hobby they can't afford.

>>18466614
Owning footwear is not intrinsically a hobby. Some people just want to go outside, hard though it may be to believe

Speaking of Truman I am remembering that time someone asked if he preferred cuffing or no cuffs and he said he doesn't give a shit about stupid selvedge but all his customers are selvedge/boot guys and that's why all the marketing pics show off selvedge

Vince hates his company because he hates what it is: a "lifestyle" brand for office workers

He hates it

Do you still wear the same boots in summer?

>>18466676
Does he want to cater to tradies? Guys who wear Carhartt and Redwing? He might have to start pricing his boots under $400

the reason vince hates truman boots is his market share isn't growing. he's not growing the brand and getting new customers, but his boots are getting more and more expensive for reason mostly out of his control, which would prevent any new customers from buying his brand
and of those customers he does have, it's the reddit types that see one single stitch that isn't perfect and they return the boots and demand an exchange and make posts on reddit about how band the QC on their pair was. he hates those people but those are who buys his boots

>>18466689
once again reddit ruins everything

>>18466693
he wants to sell the brand while he still can get some money for it and get into something else. i don't see Truman lasting much longer

>>18466696
if we stockpile them now we can sell them to redditors for 3x later

>>18460358
What are those? They look quite nice.

new boots just came in

If I wax the suede on a finished pair of boots, how would that compare to a tannery's waxed suede? I am giving serious thought to getting black G&G urban commandos in black suede and waxing them for a winter boot that won't look too out of place with a suit.

>>18467251
the wax isn't going to penetrate as deep, so areas that flex will "push out" the wax with use so reapplication is necessary. as for actual water resistance i can't say for certain because i don't have a/b testing but my pair of vibergs that i waxed with obernauf LP is pretty water resistant. you absolutely will need a hair dryer/heatgun and nitrile gloves

>>18467251
>>18467278
this guy got good results, thinking of trying it too
https://youtu.be/iOKh9-V67RI

>>18467251
You're really better off going for an MTO if you want something like that, unless you need the boots urgently.

>>18467280
do you really think that these will age well?

>>18467285
I have a pair of CF Stead wax rough out boots and the was wears off those at the creases and folds and the nap comes through. It's not going to be any different then that.

>>18467289
I also own a pair of viberg cf stead wax roughout boots, but I don't think the DIY solution is really going to match that

even in the video the end result doesn't really look particularly great, no wonder he chose cheap boots to try it on

>>18467294
depends on the product you use. The venetian leather balm is intentionally shinier than other wax treatments. The venetian leather cream (I think) is more subtle, satin finish. There are lots of different wax treatments out there.

>>18467296
if you do try it then I hope it turns out well, and please post the results

>>18467299
ok

>>18466705
alden

>>18466617
>collecting isn't a hooby
You seem to be in the wrong thread then, you sassy little faggot bitch.

>>18467399
Yeah why the fuck would anyone want to do research before buying boots unless they were a collector

>>18467401
If fuckboy just wants to go outside, maybe he should check /out/ with all the other used boot buyers.

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