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why perfumes even have opening notes and drydown, when usually, other people will smell only the drydown. even you will mostly smell the drydown, the 10-30 minute opening might as well be something else entirely.

>>18461728
Valid point. Perfumes are retarded like that. To be honest, the concept of fragrance is retarded as fuck: spending exorbitant amounts of money for a smell, for something that goes away entirely after time. So much work goes into creating something of sub-par value, regardless of how great or interesting it is. Fragrance is a meme that's barely justified, if at all. I love it but no bottle of liquid can be worth more than $200.

*contains real oakmoss in your path*

SOTD: Al-Rehab Silver

>>18461722
this is the thumbnail you idiot

I like the grapefruit in BdC edt a lot. Any recs on something similar, with less incense and pepper? A lot of citrus heavy frags focus on bergamot, lemon and oranges, not so much grapefruit/pomelo.

>>18461722
>>18461766
lmao

>>18461728
It makes it more interesting and unique, otherwise you could just wear essential oils.

>>18461725
You people have not the slightest idea how easy these are to sell to any male that isn't white (although white zoomer males are easily twice as gullible about getting suckered in to them). Genuinely an enigma to me how the CDN line is worshipped by people for essentially being ikea brand air freshener spray.

>>18461728
Opening notes are the ones that project, the ones that fill the room
The dry down is the intimate scent bubble you carry on you for the rest of the day
If someone is complimenting you on your scent 6 or 7 hours into the day from 6 ft away; you went nuclear with the sprays and were gassing people out in the first few hours

>>18461722
>>18461766
Oh fuck. Fixed.

Got an old Mary Kay Tribute, an unapologetic masculine harsh green scent. Settles down into quite a sharp patchouli but lasts a long while. I like it even if it makes women recoil. My dad says it reminds him of the Old Spice he used to wear.

A few threads back someone asked for a scent they could smell through the grease and food smells of a restaurant kitchen and this will do it. It doesn't project too much but you will be able to smell it for most of a 9-5. It cuts through food smells and all those modern sweet feminine scents.

>>18461777
>you went nuclear with the sprays and were gassing people out in the first few hours

>>18461777
legit question. I know it depends on the fragrance, but, the opening notes are still there, and you get noseblind?

Do you guys have any scents you specifically wear to bed? I have an old splash bottle of Pour un Homme I put on before bed and it's actually improved the quality of my sleep.

>>18461790
No, in every perfume the top notes fly away to perfume heaven. They are no longer there after you stop smelling them.

What makes it such a standout scent when compared to the rest of the Creed catalog?

i haven't sprayed my MFK Fluidity Silver yet. In fact I still keep it in the packaging. Is this some sort of mental illness?
Some samples I got:
Amyris Homme
Aqua Celestia Cologne Forte
Grand Soir
Fluidity Silver
and a 5ml of L Homme A La Rose.
I think just from these samples alone it can last me for a few years. Which one should I spray for work tomorrow?

I see Hermes Terre D' Parfum Spray for Men, 6.7 Fl Oz for $110 on Amazon. Is this a scam or is this correct?

>>18461720 (OP)
Someone rec me a nice /frag/ thats good in intense dry heat and says that I’m a spicy boi?

>>18461862
Gentle Fluidity Silver.

Growing up I mainly used Fahrenheit and Natura Sr. N, then later Bleu de Chanel, now I’ve been branching out. I really liked MDCI Invasion Barbare but doesn’t last long. My regular is Kouros. I really like Le Beau too

>>18461750
Based

Lalique Lion
or
Guerlain Heritage?

>>18461721
>>18461722
Garbage as always

>>18461879
This. FUCK flowcharts too that shit is for robot NPCs. Fragrance cannot be contained into such a system anyway unless you're training an army of NPCs.

>>18461750
>contains real oakmoss
*0.1% compared to 2% in real fougeres!*
>>18461728
French perfumery is made like that, to satisfy the wearer and then later the people smelling you, it's part of its style and culture. Sadly it became another thing entirely as top notes are used by many cunning brands to sell you in the first 30 minutes and then fuck you up later, many """niche""" houses are like that and the nigger cattle sucks it, spending in very high quality top notes and then giving you literal pharmacy-tier drydowns.
German-style, aka Colognes, are another set of rules and American-style aka Aftershaves is another one although less cultured due to developing in less time and against a mental subset of selling.
>>18461733
Wrong.
>>18461772
CDN Intense Man in its original form had a really bad top note show but the drydown was very good, nowadays they sell that formula in the pricier bottles from Armaf but seeing that Cedrat Boise got famous for doing the same chemical intro i suspect the cattle really like it.

>>18461777
>Opening notes are the ones that project, the ones that fill the room
Wrong, all notes project in the beginning and then the middle and base notes are the ones who are left
>intimate scent bubble
Sillage also counts and that's the part where people smell the drydown
>you went nuclear with the sprays
Wrong.
>>18461825
>No, in every perfume the top notes fly away to perfume heaven
Wrong, many essential oils can last all the way to the drydown but in a very subdued form. Because their initial impact might be too much they are then considered a top note, sometimes companies cheat and repeat them in middle and base notes.
>They are no longer there after you stop smelling them.
Wrong.

>>18461864
>I really liked MDCI Invasion Barbare but doesn’t last long
You got meme'd
>Sr. N
Based, it got reformulated not long ago with violet leaf and it smells good but a bit too juvenile due to the overdose of coumarin. They smell less dark green and more sparkling but you could try the 60's tarty DNA aka Eau Sauvage, Chanel Pour Monsieur, Loewe Pour Homme, if you find them then Aramis Tuscany, YSL Pour Homme, Capucci Pour Homme, Monsieur de Givenchy, Monsieur de Balmain.
It was the Aventus of its heyday.

>>18461874
Heritage but both are decent

>>18461879
>>18461903
>that shit is for robot NPCs
That's the whole point, it's for absolute newfags to pick anything before asking dumb questions, if you don't read them then retarded manchildren will come here asking why their Creed atomizer they got meme'd on doesn't last as long as their friend's discounter cheapie or if they should get Aventus or Naxos.

>>18461728
Some of them don't change that much over time

>>18461874
Heritage if you want a lot of patchouli, Lion if not

>hear shit talk about it for years
>brother gets a dupe
>I smell it and I like it
Fuck everyone, I don't give a shit about anyone's opinion anymore! The older I get, the smarter I become. I'm 23 and I prefer to be inside my head all the time instead of considering retarded idiots' opinions about anything!

>>18461857
Why is everyone ignoring me?

>>18461938
no one here cares about maison francis cuckdijan's gender fluidity silver

>>18461933
what kind of sausages are those

>>18461918
>You got meme'd
NTA, IB is a good frag, easily the second best from MDCI. If memory serves, on me it lasts for about 4 hours, not so bad. Definitely not a meme.

>>18461750
can I smell it?

>>18461822
12 sprays of Pour un Homme is my go-to.

what will it take to make drakar noir hated here on /frag/

>>18461973
How I expected Drakkar Noir enjoyers to look like tbqh.

Anyone recommend any Hugo Boss perfumes for a blind buy? All on a massive sale near me, only tried the OG Bottled and thought it was an ok, apple pie smell.

>>18461981
Try Boss The Scent

>>18461933
Nice bait kid
>>18461948
>4 hours
>Definitely not a meme
Buyer's remorse, i had that in a lot of perfumes to be honest
>>18461973
What's with Tokers and their shitty application techniques? that dude sprayed the air rather than the neck.
Based picks tho

>>18461981
What are you tastes to begin with you dummy, Boss has varied enough profiles

>>18461985
>Buyer's remorse
I don't even have a bottle, stop projecting.

>>18461987
>stop projecting
Like your MDCI after 1 hour?

>>18461981
boss bottled by night
masculine woody violet
poor performance though

>>18461992
Meh, predictable.

Why didn't you tell me that Prada L'Homme Intense totally slaps?

>>18461998
>predictable
Then why buy it in the first place?
>>18462009
Slaps what, balls? because it's a women's frag, a great one to be fair, but we are men here bro

>>18461985
Wood, citrus, green notes, smoky, I dont dislike sweet scents but I dont think it suits me
>>18461993
Could be a bit of me, cheers

>>18462011
>but we are men here bro
Only believable if you consider FtM's men

>>18462017
What does Drakkar Intense even smell like

>>18462013
Pretty generic and trendfaggy set of tastes but it's a start, i would also second Boss Bottled Night due to personal taste, it's a musky dry soft wood smell due to the birch but with a tonality of humidity with the violet leaf which is very very blanched, it's not the green ozonic note like in Fahrenheit or the sweet watery note in stuff like Born in Roma or Legend EDP, if anything it's violet flower with a bit of the leaf. The Night name is very misleading, it smells dewy like a spring morning, also ditto the bad performance sadly. A choice for men.
Seeing that you like homo sweet ouds i would also recommend Bottled Absolu, it's a smoky oriental with enough sweetness to consider it trendy, lasts a long while too.
Bottled Unlimited is also a nice addition if you don't mind shit-tier performance, it's a great freshie to use if you want something for 2 or 3 hours.
Bottled Infinite had a great lavender accord, damn good in my opinion, but it got reformulated not long ago and it doesn't perform as well.

Is there a good reference site somewhere that can help identify fakes when vintage hunting? I don't "do" vintages very often, but I hunted down a bottle of Rive Gauche. Examined the pictures as much as possible against different ones from other sellers, it looked alright, and the seller had a good rep (99.7%+). Took the chance and bought, and it arrived yesterday. Box looks fine, if a little dented (it is a 20yo bottle after all). Nothing seems off about the lettering, packaging, or bottle. Knowing that fakes can be hazardous I just want to be as sure as possible.

There was a website that had side-by-side comparisons of legit vintage Polo Green and counterfeit vintage Polo Green. It showed bottle proportions, shades of finishing, labeling being either embossed or glued, batch number placement and formatting, and more. Something like that would be awesome.

>>18462024
No idea if there's a website like that, but it's probably fine as long as nothing seems suspicious compared to photos of real bottles. You can be as careful as you want, but anyone that buys vintage for long enough will eventually receive a counterfeit. Especially if you're blind buying without ever having smelled the real thing before. Keep in mind also that some "fakes" actually have legitimate bottles and boxes, but the bottle has been refilled with fake juice instead. At that point you'll never know unless you spray it somewhere and notice it seems off, which you could easily miss.

>>18462017
>>18462019
>Having to carry the bottle due to poor performance
Grim
>Vanilla in Drakkar Noire
Even more grim

But now it makes me curious how come nobody has tried to replicate or dupe the original Drakkar, supposedly it was a late tarty lemon DNA which implies it was already quite different from its clean counterparts, as in it had 70's style of being more coniferous and mossy.

>>18462024
I think you did your due diligence. If you don't have any reason to believe it's a counterfeit then you need to stop being paranoid that it is. Look up the batch code. How does it smell?

>>18462024
facebook groups can be helpful

>>18462024
>Knowing that fakes can be hazardous
Cringe propaganda by the designer media machine, they can and usually have poor performance and quality compared but they aren't poisonous.
>Something like that would be awesome.
You are asking for very niche stuff, it's going to be hard to find something, your best bet is Raiders of the Lost Scent.
Also some details might not be obvious, for example Guerlain copies have superior labels than the cheapo original ones, but the caps are cheap plastic compared to the heavier ones from the real deal. Many bottles from the late 80's and 90's also had the batch numbers glued.

Rive Gauche sounds like a major pain in the ass to clone by a chinaman company, given that it's an aluminum bottle with glossy finishing.
The best way is to fucking try it desu, if it lasts for 6 hours and smells like a top-tier fougere it's the real thing. Put it in a paper strip if you are that homosexual, there it should last double so 12 hours.

Does anybody have a pine-based scent they really like? Picked up Bindebole by Pineward and it's a mixed bag. I liked the idea of smelling like a pine forest but the scent fades pretty quick and I was hoping for something a bit mossier and "damper" if that makes sense.

>>18462018
Barbershop
>>18462030
>>18462019
There's no vanilla in Drakkar Intense

>fougere
>barbershop
please, get with the times

>>18462039
>Barbershop
Barbershops spray people with Baccarat and Aventus body lotions, you need to be more specific unless you mean Barbicide, which does have a smell but it's hard to find in men's perfumes, ironically its characteristics are more often found in women frags.

>>18462038
>I was hoping for something a bit mossier and "damper" if that makes sense
It does, you are experiencing perfumery sans oakmoss, this topic has been touched way too many times but in short there's decent long-lasting pine 'fumes but they don't have that thing you are searching, at least not naturally. Polo Original is that thing but with ashtray tobacco, the most famous example.
I've never been in a pine forest but i have squished real treemoss on my hands in a small forest creek, something similar but with pine is an old bottle of Loewe Esencia, it has that smell but very faintly, the pine is also not sharp like floor cleaners but it is there.

Newer Loewe stuff in the rectangle bottles are way sharper and drier in my experience but they might be up your alley, if you want something more balsamic perhaps Agua Brava.

>>18462031
Smells like a cleaner, fizzier version of Azzaro PH actually. Pretty classy.

>>18462035
I will say that it smells pretty top tier right off the bat. Performance seems pretty decent as well for just one spray on the wrist. Good tidbit about labeling with the Guerlain example, though. Didn't know that fakes could out-do the real thing in some areas. As for fakes not being poisonous, I've heard stories about things like antifreeze being put in there and whatnot. Maybe it's redditor propaganda, but I am a hypochondric sometimes I will admit.

>>18462034
I keep hearing about facebook groups for fragrance, but I don't really want to make a zogbook account. Are they actually worth the trouble? I guess I do have some of my collection I wouldn't mind selling off to downsize.

>>18462038
Targhee Forest by Rogue is meant to mix pine, sage, juniper, oakmoss, and lavender. Splash sample vials didn't give off the moss much, but sprayed from a real bottle was definitely mossier and damp. FYI, pine notes tend to fade quick like citrus just by nature of molecular weight. It's tough to avoid in general

>>18462050
>Are they actually worth the trouble? I guess I do have some of my collection I wouldn't mind selling off to downsize.
well at best you'd sell some of your frags and maybe someone could identify/verify a bottle for you but that's about it

>>18462050
>cleaner, fizzier version of Azzaro PH actually
Jelly here, i hope i can find one someday
>Performance seems pretty decent as well for just one spray on the wrist
It strikes me that you already know your stuff, like anon said i think it's time to enjoy it because someone with 99.5% rep loses way more fucking with that than with a couple of phoney bottles.

>Didn't know that fakes could out-do the real thing in some areas
All the time, Euro packaging is done in China and glued by albanians and other undesirables in the motherland. Loewe is notorious for fucking with the quality in the newer bottles, their label has embossed letters but the paper is trashy.
Guerlain labels are famous at this point because the phoneys are way better, you can see the reverse graphics crystal clear and early original batches used cheap glue that smeared everything so they stopped doing it. But like most frag bottle designers know since the 2010's is that bottle caps are where the money and identity goes and the chinese screwed that up as the french have quite heavy caps, you can tell by hand measure only which is which as the original weights more than double. Because almost all frag companies use the chinamen as their suppliers they concentrated in doing the caps unique as any cloning company can request the bottles to the same supplier, hence why Temu and Etsy have incredibly similar Xerjoff bottles because they are literally the same. Guerlain bottles for example are the same, up to the machined atomizer details.

Dior and Chanel have small seal details inside the caps, problem is they use shit-tier ones in the testers so basically a real Chanel tester bottle is almost identical to a chinese one because they both use trashy plastic caps and these guys do not care about putting the note breakdown behind sometimes. All of this laziness is why most major brands do not make unique bottles anymore, even ones who were known by their designs like Cartier.

>>18462050
>Are they actually worth the trouble?
Depends, in first world countries some frags are worth a ton of money, up to 150 to 200 normally and 400 to 600 in some weird cases. In the non-first world parts they cost the same if not way less, because discounters are a thing only in the US and western Europe some people can only access designers via contraband or paying full retail, old stock is seen as inferior due to lack of general education so old stuff gets sold by pennies especially when there's no feasible way to offload them.
Hence the polish and former yugo accounts selling rare bottles in Germany for not much money. Faceberg does have some small groups were oldfags and wine ladies sell their stuff for not that much money, stuff like Shalimar from the mid-80's for less than 100 euros is a steal for me although there's also the mentally ill french selling 90's Hermes colognes for 500.

If your gf is a fatty roll some Al-Rehab Choco Musk on your pulse points and layer with Lattafa Khamrah. You will smell so yummy it will send her into overdrive.

>>18461827
the mint is really good but its a polarizing scent because durr old spice

>>18461978
just start saying its something indians wear

>>18461981
Bottled Absolu if you like the rich incensey arabesque type stuff

>>18462093
If your gf is a fatty she will be the one wearing Choco Musk
>overdrive
Is having Nutella spread somewhere she can lick

>>18462101
it literally unironically is one of the most popular fragrances among Indians and Pakis

so if indolic basically means animalic why is it whenever people say a fragrance is indolic they're usually talking about jasmine?
jasmine doesn't smell animalic to me

best frags if i want to smell like an ashtray?
something cold, dirty, and ashy
bonus points if it smells sweaty, pissy, or boozy.
i want to repulse women you see

>>18462152
I knew it was one of the most popular ones amongst lebs, slavs and some older orientals but never smelled it on a paki or jeet
>>18462155
>if indolic basically means animalic
Yes but no, indolic usually refers to indoles, chemical compounds that smell like white florals in full bloom when properly diluted.
Tuberoses, jasmines and orange flower (neroli) smell really strongly when still on the stick, like a very overripened citrus or a woman's very strong musk after waking up or musk from somewhere else.
Jasmine smells like spoiled red meat when emanating its full power, neroli smells like the stuff used in mothballs. Around these dates the orange tree throws their little white flowers and the scent of florals mixed with dead animals permeate the streets, supposedly it's so flies and other stuff go around and pollinate or do whatever weird fly shit they do to help them do whatever, it's awful in my personal taste but some ladies love it.
Jasmine when tried to be replicated on the stick realistically is quite indolic, foul when in extrait concentration, it is not so much animalic as it is fleshy and damp in the bad sense of the word.
There's also a specific point in which that smell gets confused with cigars and dry tobacco, it's used as such in 80's fougeres, particularly the first formula of Cool Water before being reformulated in the mid-90's and then taken out in the late 00's by Coty.

>>18462169
Polo Original
>cold
That's a new one, supposedly Davidoff for Men smells pissy, boozy and dry tobacco but it was discontinued long ago, germans still have a dupe for it.
Hugo Boss #1 pre-facelift smells pissy and sweaty with very little tobacco in the drydown, it's mostly honey.
Perhaps if you layer Polo with Boss #1, but all of these are warm, none are "cold" as you want them.

>>18462043
Millennials and zoomers will keep on using vanilla, cinnamon, sweet slop well into their 40s and 50s, right?
I can't believe guys almost reaching 40 still reach for overly sweet shit. They trash BdC (good, it is overpriced inofensive shit), but recommend Y edp or PdM Layton. "it is sweeter" as if that is a plus.
My brother in law hates any woody notes. Ok. Says he likes orientals. Well, ok, cool with spices. Then he actually gets one stronger with you and one valentino thing. Bro, you are 35 already.

Reminds me of food, and how the palate develops. Children cannot tolerate anything that isn't a sweet bomb until certain age. then, they like salty crap. but very rarely they like anything bitter. I would say a lot of people develop a taste for bitterness out of starting drinking beer.

"oh, women love this sweet sloppa". Imagine keeping yourself in prolonged adolescence because you want pussy approval. Pussy that never had a real father figure, and doesn't know what a man around 40 should project overall.

>>18462009
I've seen anons rave about it plenty of times. I like some of the heavier notes that support the Intense, but the L'Homme profile doesn't do it for me. I haven't met an iris I've liked yet.

>>18462169
Jasmine et Cigarette

you dont need more.

>>18462189
>anons
reddit is that way buddy

>>18462155
>indole
>indigo (India) + oleum (oil)
>It occurs naturally in human feces and has an intense fecal odor.
You can't make this shit up.

>>18462183
>Polo Original
as in polo green?
i've worn it for years, love it
i find the tobacco note more warm and cosy like tobacco from a pouch, not like a smoked ashy tobacco smell, like my grandads old ford orion for example
guerlain vetiver has the kind of tobacco note i'm looking for, but it's clean and soapy, not dirty and sweaty

>>18462225
lel, but i haven't smelled any jasmine or neroli with poo smell
Unless pajeet poo smells like mothballs, rotten flesh and/or caustic soda

>>18462241
>t. noselet

>>18462238
>not like a smoked ashy tobacco smell
My 3 former bottles were pure ashtray man, like a shirt after smoking a box in a heavy drinking party on a pine garden or a room cleaned with pine cleaner
>guerlain vetiver has the kind of tobacco note i'm looking for
Humid and sweet, that's not an ashtray in my definitions, searching perfumes by notes land me only sweet oud bombs rather than the stuff i think you are searching. It's shit mixed in rather than dry piss and sweat alla 80's, there's no other way than to blend some cade oil and tobacco on an old frag like Boss #1 or make it from scratch on your own.

that desi forum is actually pretty based. those guys know their stuff better than the people here.

>poo smells

>poo smells

>poo smells

>>18462241

>>18462268
Sure thing Kumar, why not staying there while you are at it

creed aventus

My old lady chypre journey continues with Cartier's So Pretty. The top notes are a bit of a mess but it settles down into an amazing and soft oakmossy powdery scent. It doesn't have any of the sharpness or aggressiveness of the old lady perfumes of decades prior. It's like a middle-ground between old and new. Great all around perfume, my mom will enjoy it.

>>18462400
ever shag her in the arse?

>>18462400
Cringe

my Versace The Dreamer is making me sneeze a lot

I ordered a fragrance from a very underground Swedish perfumer, wish me luck

>>18462038
I told you, if you want pine then you want Greymist, you’re still not going to get crazy longevity out of it though.

>>18462048
Unlike Rogue, Pineward really does use more oakmoss than IFRA allows. He states as much in his “About” section and I suspect it’s why he no longer ships internationally from his business website.

He doesn’t use this as a point of advertisement like Rogue originally did, either, just states it as a fact. I’m not saying he makes any oakmoss bombs, just that if you’re looking for some degree of real oakmoss beyond mixing up fragrances yourself, he’s one of very few options.

>>18462169
Akro’s Smoke.
My exact quote from when I tested a sample is “Wow, this opens as a photorealistic old 90’s cheap motel room, faded but very present cigarette smoke. I really can’t believe just how accurate of a smell this is, the scent of one thousand ash trays ground into cheap furniture over time.”
Alternatively, as >>18462193 said, Jasmin et Cigarette

>>18462058
>Guerlain labels are famous at this point because the phoneys are way better, you can see the reverse graphics crystal clear
I don’t think I follow? You’re saying real Guerlains have shitty labels that you can see through, but the picture you posted has the ‘shitty’ label marked as fake, and the ‘good’ quality label marked as real?

>>18462155
People are stupid and talk out their ass.
Most of what >>18462183 said is wrong, but there are a few things he said which are correct.
The best, or at least better than you’ve been given so far, explanation is that it comes down to concentration.
>Indole's scent is often described as a sharp, pungent, and slightly fecal or animalic smell. It can also be described as a musty, wet, and sharp-clean odor, sometimes compared to a combination of wet-dog, stale hot breath, and mothballs.
>In trace amounts, as found in white florals like jasmine, indole can contribute to a more floral and intoxicating aroma
Two different descriptions, same type of material. When it’s in high concentrations (like in human shit, because bacteria in your gut produce indoles) then it smells bad. When it’s in small amounts, it smells good/floral.

>>18462189
>I haven't met an iris I've liked yet.
I’m the same way, and not that you’re just looking to add something to your collection with iris in it for shits and giggles, but The Dreamer has a listed iris note but I don’t detect it at all. Very enjoyable.

>>18462429
Vintage or modern? The vintage bottles had lillial or lyral (I can’t be fucked to double check) which was banned by IFRA. Are you one of the 1 in 10000 fuckers that are sensitive to it and got another aromachemical banned?

Is Myslf EDP considered sweet sloppa?

>>18462479

It's the new one. I dunno if they ban chemicals just for making you sneeze

What more could you possibly need

>>18461978
Remind people that it's so watered down now it's a glorified body spray.

>>18461720 (OP)
I recently ordered an Encre Noire decant and I really like the scent but even with 5 sprays It completely disappears after 3 hours.

im a man and i will use white flower frags

>>18462556
Come back to it after a few months. I've been through a few bottles of EN and EN Extreme, they're always weak as shit at first but improve with time.
They will never be 'beast mode' but I get 4-6 hours from them, and reapplying isn't an issue because they're so cheap.

Best frags from Al-Rehab and Lattafa?

>>18462586
>arab sloppa
bleurgh

Guerlain Vetiver is the only fragrance I've owned where I will reach for it as soon as I get up, just a couple of sprays, it smells so nice and clean and refreshing.

>>18462586
Best Al-Rehab fragrances are Dakar, Lord and Silver. If you are into gourmands try Choco Musk.

>>18462101
>Indians
>wearing Drakkar Noir

Let me tell ya boys, you don't need no fancy fags par-fume to impress a lady and smell good doin' it. All ya need is one a these lil fellas tucked in yer back pocket, ya dig?

>>18462525
Taste?

>The new addition to Guerlain’s L’Art & La Matière collection is a masterclass in botanical vivacity, inspired by the lush prose and even lusher landscape of Rudyard Kipling’s The Jungle Book. The Vétiver Fauve eau de parfum presents tropical notes of fig, pineapple, tonka bean and cypriol in the collection’s iconic octagonal bottle, here rendered in vibrant jade-hued glass that serves as the ultimate evergreen collectible.

>>18462525
yeah bro, when you go out on those effervescent summer nights sporting that wet clean laundry smell, bitches are gonna be all over you.
so sexy.

All you need

Dylan Blue

Sprayed on L'Occitane Eau Des 4 Voleurs this morning. Projection is non-existence but it gives a nice smooth vintage spice scent, not the sharp spice found in modern fragrances but a dull relaxing cooking spice. Good for a hot day when you don't want something piercing and long lasting. Smells like a bohemian or a spice shop.

>>18462586
all lattafa / al haramain are genuinely pretty good, albeit lower quality, less well put together and some times weaker versions with a random note removed or amplified, of whatever OG fragrance theyre trying to emulate. I would only buy them as beaters so I dont have to run out of my favourite expensive frags

>>18462633
sounds interesting but not 300dollar interesting

>>18462655
I'm a girl and I've just drenched my panties merely from reading that name

>The cologne smells good but didn't get any compliments. 2 stars

>The cologne smells good but didn't get any compliments. 2 stars

>>18462633
>>18462679
it's probably a worse Guerlain Vetiver for 300 bucks, hard pass

the massive importance placed on "compliments" might be one of the most schizo elements of online fragbros

>>18462723
its very limp wristed too
>i only wear fragrance for the approval of others
real woman hours

>i only wear fragrances for myself
real incel cope

>>18462479
I had The Dreamer a while back, but I wasn't really using it so I sold it. I know 'synthetic' is a vague non-criticism, but there's something about most Versaces that comes off that way. The original L'Homme being an exception, I liked that quite a bit.

Got gifted Sauvage EDP for my birthday a few weeks back.
I like the soft, laundry musk drydown it gets on clothes a few days after but a couple guys at work insist on overspraying it and I hate it now.
Might just get Dylan Blue for the same casual workscent idk

Fragrance that smells like this music piece sounds?

https://youtu.be/jFW9VF2MD3E?t=50

>>18462723
It goes hand in hand with sillage and longevity, not only do other people have to like how you smell they have to smell you all day, a mile away. The idea that you want to smell nice for yourself is a foreign concept to most.

>>18462825
The only foreign concept here is you, Pradeep

>>18462787
Chanel Pour Monsieur

>>18462736
>indirect reply
thanks for confirming, woman

i don't feel the piss note in kouros, only moss and musk. It's far from being obnoxious, but not really pleasant either. Am I a gay noselet now?

Can women into perfume? If so, what are some noteworthy women perfumers?
Liz Moores comes to mind, Ann Gottlieb also even though she's more of a producer than perfumer.

>>18462905
kouros is like slayer, getting credit by default just for sticking around throughout the years but objectively the worst of the 80's big four.

>>18462910
liz moores is not a perfumer, she just larps as one.

>>18462910
Nathalie Lorson, Annick Menardo

Nevermind, kouros has shown it's true colors. It's somehow familiar, and I definitely can see why a hairy gay dude would wear this - really fits the image.

>>18462910
>Patricia de Nicolaï
>Nathalie Lorson
>Christine Nagel
>Anne Flipo
>Calice Becker
off the top of my head
there are lots of (actually talented) women in perfumery

>Nagel
>talented
lol, rofl, lmao even

>>18462913
what are the big four of 80s perfumes? drakkar noir and..?

>woman perfumer works for IFF

What does Pepe smell like?

What does Apu smell like?

Would you buy a Pepe or Apu inspired perfume?

>>18462943
BO
Shit and piss and vomit and BO
No

>>18462945
>fecal and pissy notes
>bergamot
Noted

>>18462943
>tendies, n64 console, lotus accord, swamp, toilet seat accord

>>18462943
oakmoss

>>18462930
Fahrenheit
Antaeus
Kouros

>>18462977
wrong

Convince me not to get Goldfield & Banks Silky Woods. Got a sampler of it a while back and its the only one that stuck with me

>>18463008
i don't care what you do

>>18462910
There are amazing perfumes and amazing female perfumers, but I will not buy a single one. I only buy perfumes designed by homosexual men. Men and women have entirely different noses so I can't trust women, or their noses. It's not hard to know what scents attract them but I'm looking for scents I would enjoy myself.

>The cologne smells good but didn't get any compliments. 2 stars

Lemonheads candy into Lemon pledge
Stunning

>pissy notes

>>18463008
>Goldfield & Banks
overpriced slop in a nice bottle

>>18462602
thanks, will look for them

Just bough Replica Sailing Day yesterday, it's my first real fragrance and im loving it so far

Does no use Maison Francis Kurkdjian here?

>>18463165
no

Get out of bed
Wash the face
Brush the teeth
Comb the hair
3 sprays Guerlain Vetiver

Right, time for a coffee, a cigar, and the 'chan

>>18463181
You forgot
1) Take a shit

>>18463183
Shitting comes a little later, the coffee the cigar saw to that, and I could still smell the Guerlain while I sat on the throne.

>>18463183
>1) Take a shit
before getting out of bed?

>>18463193
Yes. If you don't assert dominance in such a primal way, you don't deserve to post like that itt.

>>18463181
>brushing teeth before your coffee and not after

>>18463262
>drinking cofferino
>acids softening enamel
>oh boy oh boy time to go brush my teemth
>scrub off enamel because I just drank something acidic and my teeth havent remineralized
No

>>18463262
>brushing teeth 1h before/after drinking coffee
shiggy diggy

Glad I'm not a brown juice junkie.

>>18463165
I love Amyris Homme. There's a bunch of good ones.

How much does this actually smell like weed? I want to get it as a gift for a big weed guy

>>18463310
for me it smells like hash
ymmv tho

>>18463310
no resemblance whatsoever
>>18463313
>t. noselet

>>18463310
none at all.

Am I the only one that guerlain vetiver does absolutely nothing for?
Smells like some sort of balm ointment

>selling 3.4oz of picrel at work for 150$ a pop
Should I cave and get it before the stock evaporates? My gf recently bought lavender mint soap and said that it would pair nicely with it

>>18463379
probably yes

>>18463391
buy zino instead

>>18463300
>love
>anything from mfk
grim

>>18463396
>grim
you have bad taste and you probably smell bad.

>>18463401
>shilling for mfk
>accusing others of having bad taste
what a fucking clown

Sotd Shaghaf for Men
Paco Rabanne XS clone

>>18463403
>say you love one particular fragrance
>shilling for mfk
oh you're legitimately retarded. Now I know you definitely smell bad.

Holy fuck bros

>>18461720 (OP)
What is a good alternative for Tom Ford's Oud Wood? I finished my old bottle and didn't realize they reformulated it. This new version has awful sillage, it's gone so quickly.

What am I in for?

>>18463445
>what is a good alternative for diarrhea
>what is a good alternative for aids
>what is a good alternative for oud wood
avoiding it

Why is there a 4chan banner for the lads from Wafts from the Loft

>>18463446
A well-made and inoffensive citrus/wood smell. I like it slightly more than the current Sport version, but Sport has better 'push'.

>>18463454
What's the projection like? People say they can't smell it after 10 mins

>>18463456
Never been a strong projector for me, but that's not really what it's made for. As for longevity, the top notes do subside fairly quickly and you're left with more of a light woods/musk base. Again you may be better off with Sport (2021) if you want more performance.

Any frags that evoke a powerful sense of nostalgia, the old world and bygone eras?

>>18463483
Trumper Eucris

>>18463439
The EdP is amazing. Going to blind buy the Santal Marine flanker next month.
Curious what Irisfags think of the new Indigo flanker.

>>18463483
Stuff like Chanel No5 or Guerlain Shalimar maybe.

>>18463483
aksum by pryn but good luck ever finding that
tabac original and hattric also make me feel nostalgic but for other reasons

>>18463310
It smells like bong water and the dry down like baby shit

>>18463580
>tabac original
The aftershave splash is so good, but doesn't last long.
And the EdT spray gives me a rash.
It's a cruel world.

Well anons, I will now delve into Pineward's scents.
Hopefully a few of these I like enough to consider rotating between them with the seasons or even weather.
Thanks for the recommend from last thread, Anon~!

>>18463626
Should have gotten Aaron Terence Hughes instead

I got Gucci Eau de Parfum, the top notes are very fresh floral with a sweet woody tinge. Very powdery, settles into a clean baby, doll scent. It's quite a comforting relaxing scent. It's right in the edge of vintage and modern. I hope my sister likes it, otherwise it's for my mom. It would be a great signature scent.

The opening blast of citrus on this is properly mind-expanding

>>18463626
I've done this before. I feel like it's something anyone with more than a passing interest in perfumery will do at some point.

>>18463637
lol, lmao

If I want only want to do 2 or 3 sprays max. Where are the best places to spray?

Smells really pleasant and gentle, perfect summer fragrance for me.

Any other fragrances with slurry or otherwise goofy names?

>>18463693
Too many variables, depends on what you're wearing and how strong the fragrance is. For strong fragrances I go for the insides of my elbow, for lighter ones I might go clavicle. If it doesn't last on skin I might even do clothes. Also depends if it's something intimate for myself or for others around me. For myself I would do chest, for others I might do nape or wrists.

I switched my daily from Cool Water to a 30aud bottle of Nautica Voyage and I'm getting way more compliments then ever.

>>18463626
Forest Collection hits a lot of his really good tree scents and Pastoral will be a good example of his work with hay. I’m confident you’ll find something you’ll enjoy, just remember to be mindful of the skin stain on the really dark juices. Haven’t tried his most recent iteration of Lime Cola yet, tell us what you think.
And you’re welcome Anon, enjoy!

>>18463667
It’s great, but with both it and the original EdT, the more I wear them the more I realize they’re not quite what I want. I want something with a little more… presence. And I don’t necessarily mean I want heavy scents, I’ve recently found a few lighter scents I’ve been enjoying, but the TdH line is just so, I don’t know, translucent. Absent. There’s a decent chance I may also go a little nose blind to the IsoE, but it’s more than that.

Got some samples of Equipage and Bel Ami to test and will likely replace my TdH with one of those two. Currently leaning Equipage but need more testing.

>>18463685
Agreed. I love getting discovery sets from legitimate, niche, artisanal brands just because there’s so much you can do in perfumery and it’s so varied. You can see overlap occasionally, which in and of itself is also interesting to me, like convergent evolution.

>>18463738
This is outside of /frag/ and more of a general /fa/ question, but do you think a loden wool jacket would match the aesthetic if a gentleman and outdoorsman? That's how I'm trying to style myself as an outward reflection of what I am. The forest dancer, the warm poetic gentleman, and the rugged adventurer.

Don't know how good the vintage formulations are, but Davidoff Cool Water literally smells like clean laundry sheets, the sort of which you'll find in hotels. Very overrated fragrance imo and I'm glad I got to sample it before wasting any money on it, even if it's dirt cheap.

>>18463693
back of neck

>>18463800
it literally doesn't

>>18463667
More like taking a deep breath from a bottle of toilet cleaner. This isn't you mind expaning, it's your brain taking a blow from the tensides.

>>18463637
based, the lionel messi of contemporary perfumery

sotd ath slut

>>18463689
>t. noselet

This DNA is completely overrated, it's literally apple pie and menthol.

>>18463787
Ehhh, I guess let me start by saying I don’t pay too much attention to /fa/ beyond fragrances. Not to say I don’t care about my appearance, but I make my own decisions mostly for myself, and how -I- think others will perceive me.

To answer your question, yes, I can see some people associating that aesthetic with ‘outdoorsman’ but it’s going to be very hit or miss. I could very easily see people just generalizing it as British.

Bringing it back into /frag/ terms, are you wearing this for yourself, or for how you want to be perceived by others? You should wear things you enjoy for yourself because you can’t always predict how people will perceive things. One person may see an outfit as outdoorsman and gentlemanly, another may perceive it as homeless.

>>18463874
Mainly myself. I love the smells of nature - especially during spring and autumn and I know different parts of the US have their own distinct aromas. All pleasant and have rubbed off on me after a camping trip.
I have a Stetson fur felt hat with natural feathers in the band, definitely has more of a "western gentleman" thanks to the front pinch crown.

Also I'm Mexican, evidently I look like someone from Xinjiang to some people in Shanghai lmao. If I dress like this over there, apparently most would think I'm their equivalent of a cowboy

>>18463866
Does PdM not label their bottles?

I’ve always written them off as overpriced masstige, like Creed, and never even bothered to sniff any because of it. Then I was walking past the PdM counter in a department store and thought “You know what, let me actually sniff these and make an informed opinion.” Walked up and went to grab a bottle of one of the popular names and none of them are labeled? How do they not get the Gatorade treatment and just call them the color of the bottle? Dark blue, green, orange, etc.

>>18463866
I really like it. I don't wear it everyday though, only when it feels right.

>>18463877
Kek. Yeah, see, if I were to see a Mexican/Asian looking person in a loden wool jacket I’d probably think it was part of a cosplay or possibly just trying too hard, can’t say for certain without actually seeing the whole fit. Personally I associate outdoorsman with lightweight LL Bean jackets, boots, and probably cargo pants or something similar, not much overlap with gentleman, but that’s just me.

Wear what you enjoy and find comfortable, let others form their perception of you based on their interactions with you.

>>18463866
I prefer Lalique WiB, it removes the apple and most of the menthol.

Whats the premium step up to CK One Shock / Burberry London? Really disappointed in my recent bottles performance, its all I really wear in cold weather.
I dont like the Serge Lutens in one the flowchart, I tried it years ago and it smelt like a womans lotion.

>>18463787
Gay

>>18463693
twice chest, once on my shirt if it wont stain

Best modern fougere out there?

Frags for this vibe?

>>18464007
Meme answer is La Fin du Monde.

Real answer is whatever your favorite fragrance is because the world is ending and you’re not gonna get to smell it again.

>>18464007
any gourmand sprayed 30 times

>>18464007
Followed layered with Megamare

>>18463971
Most fougeres are bad. Just get Platinum Egoiste.

Is pic related the best Dior fragrance

>>18464022
No, it smells like a sour Chanel Allure Homme Sport

>>18464022
i've worn dior homme since 2007

>>18464024
Thank you noselet sister.

I sprayed BDC Parfum 3 times and my younger brother said, 'You are wearing that stinky ass cologne again, aren't you'. Why the fuck don't normies know how luxury smells like?

>how luxury smells like
Probably because you're Indian

>>18464026
you've been smelling bad for almost two decades, wow

>>18464049
the stinkier the more luxurious

>>18464026
My condolences
It must be hard having a taste for lipstick Dior Hommo

>>18463445
Themeen's Carved Oud was hailed as a great Oud Wood alt, but brighter, when it came out.

you can also try
https://www.jomashop.com/versace-mens-oud-noir-edp-spray-3-4-oz-tester-fragrances-8011003811342.html
which will be a bit different, but gets the save vibe at a fraction of the price.

Kneel.

>>18463483
Figment Man is a wonderful and powerful fragrance with a real animalic / pissy note up front that makes me wish I was in an old wood and leather bar filled with books from 300 years ago. In the kind of building that was built with granite and marble instead of brick and mortar.

>>18464022
idk i dont think i like that iris that much. it comes off as "papery" or earthy when i smell it

>>18463445
Kredo from Nishane

Best perfumer of all time or just a pretty face?

Ordered samples for all these. What am I in for?

Papillon Anubis
Papillon Salome
Papillon Spell 125
Zoologist Moth
Zoologist Squid
New York Nicolai Parfumeur Creatur
Tauer L’Air du Desert Marocain

>>18464118
what are the notes on botox

is this /fa/ approved?
saw it at the airport and it smelt pleasantly good

>>18464130
slop

>>18464118
Wouldn't say best of all time but definitely among the top 5

>>18464163
not /fa/ approved
you can wear it if you like it though

>>18464163
Privé was far superior. I wonder why they stopped making it.

>>18464163
I like Lucky. Been a while since I smelled Prive, but I do recall liking that, too.

>>18463971
Boucheron Pour Homme EdP

Why doesn't Guerlain sell 50ml bottles of their classic men's fragrances anymore except for Habit Rouge? Wonder why Habit Rouge specifically is available in a smaller size but the others aren't?

>>18464202
Habit Rouge is my go to wanking frag

>>18464202
indians can usually only afford the 50 ml's

>>18464049
I absolutely hate BDC, I have no idea why it's so popular.

>>18462525
Joop is fucking awful

>>18464337
careful you might cut yourself on that edge

recs that just smell clean + like really expensive luxury soap

Behold.

Recommendations on something linear and similar to the dry-down of pic related? I don't like the opening at all, the pineapple/grapefruit is too strong, but after ~40 minutes it turns into a really nice fresh and spicy scent. I can't really tell what notes I'm enjoying, maybe ginger, pepper, and vetiver? I smelled Sauvage Elixir in store and it didn't really smell like pic related. I haven't been able to find Creed Absolu Aventus to see if it's closer to what I'm looking for.

>>18464130
>Tauer L’Air du Desert Marocain
I think the top and heart notes are stunning, I get a little leather, a little incense, all with an amazing blend of spices and jasmine. It conjures the name of the fragrance perfectly. I just don't like it on my skin after it gets to the ambery base, it's smooth but too much. I would love this as a cologne without the amber base even if it lasts less than 2 hours. As is it has amazing longevity and sillage which, as per usual, people can't uncouple from the scent itself.

I'm not familiar with the others.

been my scent of the day for the past week. decent amount of sprays.

L'Eau d'Issey Pour Homme drydown is divine

end game

SOTD: Najdia

>>18464379
That bottle looks AI generated.

>>18464396
>L'boy P'ussey Poor Hommo

>>18464433
All the ones from that brand are AI, they have made probably 2,000 of them. It's the reason I don't buy from them since I avoid any product that uses AI.

>>18464402
>citrus
>spearmint
>ambroxan
people overthink hating on PdM. It's a bad company because their price point is insane, not because of the fragrances. It's their greed, and the fake history they use to justify their fragrance price. That's it. The fragrances are fine, and everyone would love them if they cost ~$120 each. Sedley is nice too; A sweet-candy aquatic. It's not complex or interesting, but it's nice sweet and clean.
>it's bad an incomplete
these are just meme words by fragrance nerds. and this is the only place where say nonsense like that.
>no I took a fragrance class and
those ideas of completeness were popular memes in the 50s to compose a very specific smell with very specific ingredients, most of which are now illegal. Sedley and 99% of modern fragrances don't apply.

SOTD: Vetiver Tonka

Anyone like Memo's ___ Leather line? I tried African due to hype, but I'm interested in Russian.

Am I making any mistakes? My go-to for years has been Prada Luna Rossa Sport (hundreds of 'ments over the years and hoes love it) I have tried Zadig & Voltaire This is Him which is pretty good. Also regular Prada Luna Rossa & PLR Ocean. Both decent. Encre noir is too much like bug spray, but good when I've been working on my car or motorcycle. JPG Le Male is alright too but just like a slightly worse gayer more playdoh-ish PLR Sport

sampled Byredo Black Saffron + Bal d'Afrique. very impressed by both. anything else worth checking out from byredo?

>>18464460
I have bibliotique. It is pretty nice. Would not recommend for hot and/or humid weather.
Mixed emotions is also pretty good imo, but it is a hit or miss.

I also have bal de freak, and my ex told me it smells like soap ayy
I like but it only lasts a couple of hours

>>18463892
I guess Xerjoff Naxos?

>>18463738
>but the TdH line is just so, I don’t know, translucent
Ellena's style is often described as transparent or watercolor

>>18463892
Mancera Red Tobacco
Triumph of Baccus
Carlisle and Boss Bottled Absolu to me is similar DNA but tobacco is replaced by tonka/incense
>>18464357
Le Labo Lavande 31
>>18464460
Animalique + Gypsy Water are my favourite from them
>>18464456
I dont understand getting that haul of samples of extremely popular fragrances, you will always run into tester bottles at the mall

Can you recommend a cheap alternative to Acqua di Giò to use daily?

>>18464515
joop homme

>>18464515
Jeanne en Provence Acqua is pretty good. more of a clone of Kenzo PH though

Thoughts on New York Intense - Parfums de Nicolaï?

>>18464556
Mid, like all frags from nicolai

>>18464556
an excellent masculine frag

>>18464558
cope, seethe and dilate
ywnbaw

>>18464130
How did you pick out those samples, it's an interesting list, I think e.g. you picked the 3 worst papillon (and I'd say the only 3 that are not good from her).
Tauer is very pleasant though.
written wearing: fall into stars

>>18464560
How similar is it to Bois du Portugal, Pour Monsieur? I've never tried any of these. Wha's the vibe?

>>18464560
>t. invested shill with 20 bottles of nicolai and buyer's remorse

remember to avoid these if u dont wanna smell indian

>>18464567
who are you quoting?

>>18464562
haven't tried BdP yet
not too similar to Pour Monsieur (EDT) with NYI being more formal, both of them are great and worth having imo

>>18464568
For years I genuinely thought Eros had this gross tumeric/cumin note and salty/sweaty note because I used to go clubbing with an Indian coworker who wore it every night out and insisted it helped him get girls

>>18464570
Your thoughts on lv imagination and Gualtieri's work?

>>18464579
>lv imagination
pass (also not interested for 345 bucks)
>Gualtieri
his art is fun and his Nasomatto bottles are great
the frags are hit or miss (especially in the Orto Parisi line) but there is some good stuff in there
my top5:
>Baraonda
>Pardon
>Fantomas
>Bergamask
>Megamare or Sadonaso (for the lulz)

>>18464556
good, though a little pricey
Lalique Pour Homme (Lion) is probably the best cheap fragrance in this genre. it has a different opening but a similar drydown
>>18464562
it's more similar to Pour Monsieur EDP than EDT, they both have a richer creamier base with sandalwood and vanilla

the vibe for all of these is "40 year old banker in a suit". they are formal, old school and sophisticated, though not as straight up grandpaish as some less classy old DNAs

>>18464556
good but somewhat expensive
just like almost every other nicolai

>>18464584
>the vibe for all of these is "40 year old banker in a suit". they are formal, old school and sophisticated, though not as straight up grandpaish as some less classy old DNAs
this desu senpai

>>18461720 (OP)
wtf this randomly started smelling like shit and it's only been 6 months
was a christmas gift anyway

>>18464618
That's how it's supposed to smell, it finally macerated which is what quality brands do before they sell the product.

>>18464622
>macerated
Really? Im new so i never heard that term before. I enjoyed the way it smelled like before was much more deep and woody, now it's abrasive and alcoholy and the woodiness is much less present

>>18464649
It basically just means "maturing." Like how chili tastes better after a couple days in the fridge.
Frenchies will let their frags macerate before selling, but arabs won't.

Opinions on Salome Papillon?

>>18464696
gross

>>18464556
elliot rodger type frag

>>18464702
In what way?

>>18464704
Nice try shill but Elliot hated women and he would have shot Patricia and all her simps in the face if given the chance. Elliot wears pre-reformulation Aventus.

>>18464515
Bentley Silverlake

i just got eros energy.
It smells kinda like oranges.
Has anyone tried it?
t.not indian

NEW THREAD
>>18464728
>>18464728
>>18464728
>>18464728
>>18464728

>>18464729
It’s Versace’s incredibly late-to-the-party take on Aventus, and was even more so an oddball because they released it at the beginning of the fall season and most stores didn’t receive stock until mid to late fall when it was entirely out of season.

It’s okay.

>>18464181
Retarded and also gay zoomer hands typed this post
>>18464708
It doesn't smell gross, I love it, but it's near unwearable for a man. I'm not saying it's masculine, but women can get away with more daring stuff whether it's clothes or perfume. 20% of the composition of Salome is a tincture of actual real animal shit and piss. I don't like when people gatekeep perfumes behind attractiveness (I remember when someone in this thread said you can't wear Black Orchid as a man unless you're really hot). However, you really would need to be a very attractive guy to wear Salome.