Rules:
>Don't eat
>Don't sleep
>Don't ask why

FAQ:
>http://pastebin.com/raw/k616ZXUw (embed)

Low Calorie Food & Drinks List:
>http://pastebin.com/raw/93cLG9jj (embed)

Model Diet Manual:
>http://imgur.com/a/kdIyE

BMR & TDEE calculator
>https://sailrabbit.com/bmr/

>current stats: sex, age, height, weight
>tdee and your deficit
>highest and lowest weight
>goal weight
>preferred method of losing weight
>aesthetic you are going for

Previous thread: >>18446201

>>18461771 (OP)
>FAQ:
>>http://pastebin.com/raw/k616ZXUw (embed)
>version: 1.5 (6/10/16)
Isn't it about time for an updated version?

>>18461771 (OP)
i think my ingrown toenail is healing, but i still don't want to risk it
can i substitute cycling for running? i will be able to lift weights, but cardio seems impossible
i'm thinking cycling for an hour everyday and weight training three times per week
will this be enough to burn fat? i don't eat much btw and i definitely don't eat unhealthy

>>18462046
i always preferred cycling if i was going to do any cardio at all. significantly less impact on your joints too. i see no reason why you can't do that.

>>18462066
are you sure it'll be enough to burn fat? just an hour of cycling everyday? how much distance should i aim for?
i hope it is
i am kept hostage by this stupid toenail and i want to get moving

>>18462066
>>18462091
also, exercise bikes also do the same right?

What are your experiences with water fasting?

10-day-low: 44.35
Latest: 44.35
Moving average: 45.07

I was at this weight in November before a failed recovery attempt, but I was 5% bf vs 10% now. ChatGPT is trying to fatshame me into recovery by explaining that this is what I get for pulling a bait and switch on my body. Now it's catabolizing muscle and hanging onto a lifesaving belly at BMI 15s.

But I see it as a plus. I hit a metabolic wall at 44 kg in November. My hair was falling out, my libido was gone, I couldn't keep warm and the degree of bradycardia was life-threatning. Hell, it was so intolerable I decided to gain to 50 kgs before panicking and relapsing!
But now? I'm relatively alright. I can totally make it to new LW this time. 42 is the preliminary target.

Onwards and downwards,

Anon Anonovic Anonskaya

>>18462143
Its miserable

Replaced eating with gooning. OMAD here 82kg 190cm targeting 65kg

>>18461692
doesn't booze make you fat tho

>>18461957
>Isn't it about time for an updated version?
All of the information is correct and relevant, and all of the links still work. What do you think should be added?

dont eat dont drink we just be thin strange chick fuck strange china dick stay aesthetic and stay thin for life

finished the 72 hr fast and broke it with a 6 pack of light beer and a pint of light ice cream. weighed in at just over 140. gonna do another fast and i'll probably be there. 130s here we come. after that im going to focus on restricting and getting fuckloads of protein

>>18462599
depends on how much food you have and what booze you drink. fatties consume regular beer or shitty fruity sugary crap. a standard drink is around 100 cals if its light beer, seltzer, liquor, etc.

>>18462599
As an (now 48 hour sober) alcoholic, you tend to not eat much if at all when you binge.
I'd go for days eating very little, like less than 500 Calories. When you get into that kind of bend you aren't hungry and most foods just make you want to throw up.
Wake up and start drinking, pass out, continue. I only ate because I knew I would probably end up dead if I didn't.

>>18462619
Well, the pastebin itself has a "to be added" list:
>To be added:
>+ Intro stuff and about the thread
>+ Plateaus and being discouraged
>+ Exercise and tracking calories burned through exercise
>+ Fasting
>+ ??? (Post suggestions ITT)
The first three points have more or less been taken care of, but there still isn't any information on fasting. We can also collect other ideas from various anons ITT, as is suggested in the list. One thing that comes to my mind would be how to deal with people pestering you about not eating enough.

fat failure loser brah I hate this make it winter already the seasonal depression makes starving so easy

I'm on a water fast and the only supps I take is a multivit, magnesium at night and those orange tasting vit c water tablets, so I thought I should get some salt in me to stay alive. 1 tsp of iodized salt and 3mins of an hour later I was made fully aware that straight salt is an emetic and was throwing up water, yellow stomach liquid and a little blood on my spit at the very end. I'll go out and get some electrolyte tablets tomorrow, this was very educational.

growing up with obese parents who were like "nyehh that leads to disordered eating!" and fed me like shit literally made me skinny as soon as i gained self awareness lmao

glad i didnt get dragged down into that mess

>>18462934
1tsp definitely shouldn't be enough to make you profusely vomit. probably some other issue there. just get a sugarfree pedialyte. zero sugar gatorade etc actually have shit electrolytes.

i also salt my coffee. it does enhance the flavor and cut some of the bitterness, but needless to say don't add a lot.

wearing anything beyond the basics is unnecessary, a waste, and try hard except special events like weddings etc.
change my mind (u can't)

You quickly realize how much of your time is centered around food and when you're avoiding food you have to fill the idle time with something else.

what are everyones fav emetics for staying skinny after a binge? is a finger/toothbrush really the best? i have a strong gag reflex so it takes a lot of abuse to the back of my throat to trigger emesis.

>>18463392
dont do that. bulimia and anorexia are terrible for your health and make you look disgusting. no one thinks the mentally ill, dying person is attractive.

just eat healthy and exercise. go at a healthy calorie deficit until you hit your target weight and then eat at a maintenance caloric intake.

check a BMI chart for a healthy weight.

reposting this just 'cause

>>18463560
this has the same energy as those sanrio diets lmao
just fast and starve and pretend you're not in a fasted state and also wont pass out doing cardio eating 200 calories a day.

fav thinspo image boards besides /thinspo/? no twitter/reddit/pinterest/insta plz, that is for brainrotted bitches ^,…,^ need more pics of skinny girls

we're back after some fuck shit happened. started at 190, 5'9 in dec, currently sitting at 140. have not seen it go lower than 140, but it was 140 on the dot a day ago. im losing a lot of motivation and the rate of weight loss is slowing down a lot. i realistically want to hit at least 130s at least dude. so shit because most of that loss was in a couple of months and i haven't been disciplined enough since.

>>18463510
you do realize this literally is, and always has been, a proana thread correct

>>18463371
It's crazy to think how much time gets dedicated to eating... It's kind of gross imo

>>18463560
>>18463567
What is this mental illness?

>>18462963
Fat people literally think that intermittent fasting can kill you. It's crazy how warped their perception of what a healthy body looks like can be.

"here's a healthy pistachio cheesecake you can have every day for breakfast" *normalfag dumps in a heaping handful of pistachios in a blender immediately*

the recipe is for one serving and i already see 600+cal of pistachios in the blender before anything else. why is normie "health" content so fucking retarded

"you're skinny as fuck"--no retard you're just fat.

>>18463560
>>18463567
>>18463592
you can get skinny in a healthy way without being a pathetic, helpless loser.
dieting isn't that difficult.
eating healthy isn't that difficult.
exercising isn't that difficult.

learn some self control and discipline over time.

>>18463704
>learn some self control and discipline
you're so right

>>18462514
Update today is 80. Started at 85. Accidental 24hr fast.. invited to BBQ but didn't get the address until after all the food was eaten lol

If a man wants to make androgyny work he has to be /thin/

>>18462514
Kek
Keep us posted.

>>18462514
im your target weight and i can say for a fact anon, if this actually works, you will pretty quickly lose your sex drive and will to goon. start reading or get into some new vidya to fill the time instead. i do chores.

>>18463829
To make anything 'work' you have to be attractive and to be attractive you have to be thin

>>18464381
How to achieve those wide hips as a male? I got a pretty nice hip bone 4makv

Dancing burns so many calories.

>>18464426

Why are slavshits so obsessed with femboys and trannies?

>>18461771 (OP)
>Rules:
>>Don't eat
>>Don't sleep
>>Don't ask why
?

what do you do if you still look skinnyfat and soft at a really low BMI? loose/excess skin removal procedure? liposuction?

>>18464484
Exercise

>>18464448
Gay.

>>18464505
I did, didn't work

>>18464484
Put on a bit of muscle, you don't even need to eat extra to do it, eat normally. Just toning up your body will help with the gross skinny fat look.

>>18464535
>
Age, exercise routine and diet?

>>18464535
Eat protein. If you're going to be an anabro, you need to be eating more protein. Protein, protein, protein. I avoid anything that's over 10 cals per g.

what is ana

>>18461771 (OP)
that's a man

>>18464484
right looks like a spookie skelly druggie

>>18462091
Park your bike 2 miles away in a secure storage. Walk to get bike.
Bike however long. For your miles or time.
When done lock up bike and walk home.
If you don't want the hassle of a storage place, keep bike at home and pretend you have to walk two miles out and back to the storage place, but really you are just walking away from home and returning home.

>>18464677
A nice girl.

>>18463704
>exercising isn't that difficult.
Yeah it is, i do it but it sucks.

>>18464982
You seem very lazy. Exercising is what our human bodies are meant to be capable of doing. Elderly people wish they can go back and just simply be able to run so they can enjoy this world like they used to when they were kids.

>>18464686
Unfortunately, no
https://x.com/W1chr0n1c1es

>>18464473
>>18464677
man i leave for a few years and this happens. wtf happened to this thread. do these fags even realize where they are?

i owe my life to konjac jelly pouches, zyns, and white monster

>>18464981
whats ana mode

droppin' weight boys, doin' good

>>18463371
yea i'm bored
i wish my stomach would be bratty more often. i rarely get growls and i like feeling hungry

sombr is definitely younger zoomer shit, but real goals

I find it really bizarre how some people respond to photos of models by saying that "no real person looks like that". How does that make any sense? How can you look at photographic evidence of the fact that such a figure is, indeed, possible to have, and yet say that isn't?

>>18466292
You ever get the 'no human looks like that except for you'

>>18466292
to be fair, most pictures online are heavily edited and run through filters, it's a valid assertion to make in the post-sincerity landscape of today, where simply being your genuine self is cringe and everything must either be perfect or ironic in execution.

>>18466377
I sure do hope nobody looks like that.

>>18466409
Too bad.

>>18466441
>>18466377
you'd make a cute kigurumi cosplayer

>>18464991
>You seem very lazy
You have no idea, it's to the point where i think i should actually see a doctor about it.

>>18466078
Would.

>>18466292
tbf photoshop is endemic. But still I agree with the general view.When people talk about "unrealistic" body standards they are coping, it is realistic and possible to get the body(and they know it deep down), most people just dont have the selfcontrol to do the necessary work; "unrealistic" is a lie they tell themselves and the world so the feel less shame

>>18466488
diets like these will kill your test. but if you had a good male skeletal structure ur gonna look badass anyways. pretty sure mine is fucked because i dont feel sexual attraction very much anymore. but that just means i can get bloods done and get legal steroids if i wanted to.

> relatively narrow clavicles
>broad protruding iliac crest

Yup, its over.

- Gonna start focusing more on actual fitness.
Went from fat to this (less fat) but at least an improvement. I will never look good as without some muscle to fill me out so I need to gymcel to look half decent is what I'm guessing... we'll see after 3 month noob gains. Lats, chest, delts, abs and arms etc.

- Ordered more semaglutide and dnp caps from china to use after.
200-400 mg dnp for 3 weeks + semaglutide forever til maintenance dose since it seems good for health.

>>18466821
Sorry, I can't type on my phone.

>Weight a week ago: 59.5kg
>Weight 4 days ago: 59.1kg
>Weight today 59.05kg
Just fuck my shit up man, I was losing at a good pace until I hit 60kg and then my loss slowed down despite a similar diet

How do I stop being a fat bulimic retard?

>>18463628
>What is this mental illness?
Bro, this whole thread is just anorexia general, with people who egg others on because its a fetish for them.

>>18464484
Nice start,you look 10x better. you look like you may have pectus, like me. It makes your chest and ribs look way bonier. I'd keep cutting and start working out some, just push ups and leg raises to failure. Keep up the good work, anon.

>>18466821
Looking good, as I said to other anon just some basic calisthenics to failure whilst maintaining a deficit should start sculpting you out a bit

running makes wheight loss so much easier holy shit
i tried cycling before but it got way to boring, running is way more fun for some reason (except treadmill, i wanna kms of boredom after 5 mins)

how can i fast without my period going away ? i used to be able to do it for several days without any consequences but not it keeps getting messed up. please help i dont wanna end up infertile

please stop making these threads

>>18467085
No, Mr. Brosnan

>>18466976
I was in your situation for a while. I didn't have my period for months because of how little I was eating. About two months ago, however, I managed to get it back, without compromising on my thinness. The trick is to eat more around the time when your period usually comes. Fasting is the safest during the days following your period.

>>18466821
>semaglutide forever til maintenance dose since it seems good for health.
You can't do that /fit/ told me you have to stop taking it when you reach your goal and then gain the weight back

>>18462091
Late response but when I was 15 bmi the exercise bike was optional cardio
I also ran in place for the bpm but really only used that when forced inpatient (lucky just fucked up brain so I wasn’t watched for food like the girls each time)

Skimming this thread through it looks like fit is telling people to come here again
If you are fat just walk more and eat less pointless things like soda or chips
>t. fresca guy

can walking 10k steps a day reduce body fat percentage?

>>18467347
no.

You hit a plateau at a certain dose say 1.25mg then when you drop it to 0.75mg/ week you'll reach a new steady state within 4 half lives (4 weeks iirc) - which is higher than your 1.25mg steady state, you'll get hungry.

Incretins become a 'via negativa' appetite booster but you still get the health benefits (over 0.5mg), reduce inflammation, insulin sensitive. More fat loss, less muscle loss, anti-addiction, pro heart properties as well. In a bulk it will reduce insulin insensitivity associated with surplus calories and stop the body from producing new fat cells, which is good since they're permanent.

It is a body recomposition/repartitioning agent with many added health benefits.

are there any supplements that will make me less hungry?
and any exercises that don't require equipment which can help reduce body fat %?

>>18467943
exercises to reduce body fat? yeah it's called fork putdowns
to not feel hungry you should eat foods that are satiating and low calorie
search "satiety index", potatoes are at the top

>>18467860
Or you could just eat less and move more
If you need such drugs you have bigger issues to fix

>>18464385
Hips are bone you moron

>>18468026
Who said need? It's just convenient. I don't /need/ my car to go to work, but it's faster and more comfortable than riding my bike, I could give a fuck if people who can't afford a car and people who live 2 minutes away from work don't understand why I "need" to drive.

>>18467786
Calorie deficit is literally all that matters. It’s not complicated, just hard, so stop bargaining with it to try to make it easier. It will always be hard. You could eat an insane volume of shredded lettuce and you’d still be hungry. Get comfortable with being uncomfortable or just admit that you don’t actually want it that bad. But stop asking stupid questions you already know the answer to.

>be me
>thinking about going over my limit today, had a poke bowl earlier
>looking at onigiri at local grocery store
>questioning it, they aren't that high cal really
>staring at them deciding what i should get, weighing options, looking at the lower cal stuff like cucumber maki
>suddenly, an ogre approaches from the corner of my vision, picrel pretty much
>she has sweat on her tits and grease all over her shirt
>dirty ass uncleaned nerd glasses
>through her labored breathing, she FORCES herself between me and the onigiri
>actually just completely violates my personal space to get to the food
>manages to let out a gelatinous, gurgling sounding "mnmnmm sorry-my bad"
>immediately turns back to the onigiri and starts telling her comparatively put-together mother, so obviously she wasn't actually sorry
>"yeahhg these are the uhmigiri"
>has completely forgotten im there
>stand and stare for a second, take a moment to process the display of gluttony i have just witnessed
>literally just someone who gave up on life
>turn around and go check out with my zero sugar sodas

fat fucks will always be the best thinspo, saved a bit of my deficit today

M, 29, 5'9", 155lbs
I'm getting married next month. I want to look my best.
How does one reduce bloating? Avoid carbonation, salt, and water?

>>18468254
>zero sugar sodas
You're not any better than the fatty you mock.

>>18468254
I do that to people and I don't feel bad about it.
If I can find what I want and make a decision before you even manage to wipe the drool from your chin get the fuck out of my way.

>>18468389
Diuretics

>>18468406
Ah.
Do you have a go-to? Like coffee? Or are you talking pills?

>>18468395
larping fag

>>18468404
make ur decisions, that's fine, i'll judge you though.

>>18468411
alcohol is a strong diuretic even tho it has cals. caffeine is too, but its a shitty diuretic, and practically the only one you can get otc in the US.

whoever responded to you is a dumb fuck. you can lose a good amount of fat weight in a month. diuretics will only benefit you maybe like a day before and have way less an impact on water retention than a lower intake does.

>>18468453
lol ok thanks.

>>18467943
gween tea

>>18468656
Thats gay, do it the old school way with energy drinks and cigs.

>>18468395
Fuck you. Zero calorie is zero calorie.

how's it looking?

>>18469773
pretty good

i'm 5'4 sit between 114 and 118, i've been that weight for a year now without any conscious restricting or anything. I'm also flat asf. i want to starve again. but also - i think if i gained another 10lbs I could maybe get tits. forcing myself to gain weight would feel bad, but should I gain the weight first to see if i look better? or just focus on skinny ? could not being "thin" give me real not-gross tits? hw was 138, 6 years ago, i don't remember being curvier just thicker. so is this misguided right ? my weight hasn't been above 120 for a long time, does boob size change significantly in healthy weight categories ? I'd like to gain the weight and see before start this new period of restricting, so there's less fluctuation in my weight long term , but i dunno , is trying to gain that weight idiotic in the first place ? the boob that comes with 125 lbs means fat elsewhere that is never worth it . gain or lose gain or lose gain or lose

>>18461771 (OP)
how do i get the energy to lift weights and do cardio if i eat way less?
late 20s male
5'10"
130lbs
18% body fat, want to reduce it to 10% and lower
zero sugar energy drinks?

>>18461771 (OP)
Becoming a wagie has me fucked up. I went from 6'2 160lbs to nearly 200 in the past 2 months. I look fucking disgusting, I need to get back down.

>>18470482
That depends 100% on your genetics
you could be 400lbs and still flat, or you could gain 10 lbs and all of it goes to your boobs. Either way depending on your age and hormones and genetics and weight history and a ton of other things, most likely anything you gain will be fat and not the kind of glandular breast tissue that will stick around after you lose the weight again.

>>18470482
Personally I think a skinny girl with no tits is more attractive than a chubby girl with small/medium tits
I also think >>18469773 is hot so maybe straight anons will have a different opinion

>>18470672
this is what i fear the most about getting a regular job
i have one where i get to decide my hours, but the pay is shit
but if i want a better pay, i have to ruin my body

>>18470672
How do you manage to gain weight at work? I feel like I'm not eating enough because work stress makes it too hard to eat anything.

>>18470745
i used to work 12 hour days and in my attempt to reclaim some autonomy over free time, I started passing by convenience stores and mcdonalds on my 70 minute commute home (pre-covid), all it takes is being bored and eating an additional 500 calories per day you didn't need for the pounds to start stacking up, that's 1lb a week, 52lbs in a year.

Back to the weight I was at prior to an ill-fated recovery attempt.

I strategically jettisoned muscle mass to avoid the metabolic basement of endocrine dysfunction I found myself in in november (cold intolerance, no libido, hair thinning, irritability unsatisfactory incomplete evacuation as peristalsis was shot). Preserving a fat reserve should enable me to get to my UGW without plateauing.

I'm weaker but maintain morale and imaginary sexual relations with Touhous.

>>18461771 (OP)
I'm going to go fucking insane I can't stop eating like the fat fuck I am and it's taken me up 2kg.
I'm not even trying to full anorexia mode because I have to fucking maintain fitness for work but this last 8kg that I can lose keeps breaking me.
Guess I gotta start fasting and go back to 1300kcal a day.

Where do skeletors find trousers that fit? the smallest waist size for men's trousers in any shop I go to is too large. I'm not even full anorexia mode, BMI 17. We live in a fat man's world

>>18470745
Stress eating and having more money, mostly.

>>18470929
belts?
man i remember having to buy the tightest belt and now i barely fit into same pants, i fucked up

Can't decide if I like or hate this

>>18461771 (OP)
About to be 30, how can I maintain my metabolism so what little calories I eat go to my muscles and not fat?

>>18471216
Work out

>>18471239
I already do that. Calisthenics and a bit of swimming

>>18471242
You need more intensity than that piddling shit.

>>18471247
nta, but calisthenics can be very physically demanding if you pick the right exercises.
Stuff like one-arm pullups or one leg squats and so on...

>>18466929
Thinking about those beans

Eat a burger losers. Lmao

>>18470929
Maybe kids or womens sizes

Which one /fa/? :3

>>18471603
depends on your skin color

>>18471421
make me

holy shit I'm such a fat pig I'm cutting up my credit card, I'll call the bank to get a new one when I'm 20 pounds lighter.
I've been eating so much these past weeks that two english muffins with cheese, a bowl of oatmeal with honey, two chicken breasts, and a protein bar today have made me feel DEAD. no energy whatsoever.
I can't do anything but sit here at my desk rotting, can't work can't put away the laundry or clean or work on learning french.
what a pig

Whenever I fast for long periods of time, like when I stop eating at noon, I can't sleep at all. What do? I don't want to eat before bed but insomnia fucking sucks.

>>18472204
Try having 1-2 cups of herbal tea or warm water. Drink as slowly as possible.

I'm so dumb I need a bf (gay) to keep me thin. Regretfully, I haven't found one.

>>18472714
Where are you from, Anon?

im gonna go throw up again because I'm a fat fucking retard

>>18461771 (OP)
what should be the pipeline for skinnyfatlean?
i'm late 20s, 5'10", 130lbs, 18% body fat
i walk 10k steps everyday and do light cardio and calisthenics (can't do certain exercises like pushups, planks, burpees, lunges due to an injury)

>>18472923
skinnyfat -> lean*

What time of day do you guys work out? And is it better to do it before your biggest meal of the day?

>>18473088
usually after dinner because i'm not a neet. i usually eat at 6pm and work out or run at 7. have an iso drink after that with ~100 calories to get some glucose back in the muscles for recovery and for electrolites since it's very easy to get fucked in those on a diet

>>18473088
I do calisthenics so I try and fit some in whenever I can, if I'm at work and I have a minute I'll knock out a set or two of push ups. Otherwise around 6-7-8pm I'll try and do a full routine

>>18462963
i hate the fact that fat ppl will always be like ew you look like too skinny and ugly, like bro shut tf up, my mom would literally force me to swallow my pvke cus she was scared id get skinny.
food tastes like shit, and i cannot physically eat more than half my plate.

i skipped 2 trainings am i fucked?

>>18473316
yes, kys

>see deathly sick cancer patient
>think, damn miring that physique

bump

My waifu <3

>>18473519
Heh
I prefer the Holocaust victim photographs, mainly for the artsy BW look desu.
Nazis kinda helped a number of juice to reach their peak aesthetic.
Just imagine how almost all of those Jews would stay fat throughout their whole life.

I know It's really not fun when someone forces you to starve, but dying from starvation at a ripe age of 27 or so is probably one of the most Effay ways to go.

>>18473686
>dying from starvation at a ripe age of 27 or so is probably one of the most Effay ways to go
You do realize how deranged that notion is, yes?

I started at 80kg fat fuck now I'm dancing around 69-70 kg. I started binging and purging for like a month and realized that's retarded and will ruin my teeth and breath. How do you nigs deal with binging?
It's all mental idk

>>18472923
>>18472923
>>18472923
anyone?

>>18473739
Good progress, Anon.
I simply have nothing to binge on at home.
And if you stick with a low calorie diet for a while you'll just hover around the same weight without having to count calories and restrict your intake.

>>18473784
You either pull through and burn off the excess weight or focus on building as much muscle as you can and lose excess fat a year later.

>>18461771 (OP)
Kys fat cunts

Being skinny won’t make your life less shit u fucking bitch

I've forgotten how to ignore hunger.
I don't think I can stop overeating anymore, already back to 18bmi and rising.
It's over.

Who are you going to trust, the gentle person that made this meme or the serial killer Patrick Bateman?

Holy shit, I have a bikini bridge now.

Spending the afternoon caressing my collar and hip bone again

How do I convert my bulimia (cringe) into anorexia (based)?

Hot weather is literally goated I completely lose my appetite over summer

>>18475135
Don't buy snackable foods and preferably don't keep any food in the house.

>>18475136
true, makes me want to cut my hair though

zero calorie soda and sparkling drinks are goated for keeping away hunger

is basic calisthenics (squats, wall pushups, crunches) and walking enough to reduce body fat %? i already eat in deficit

>>18467266
>The trick is to eat more around the time when your period usually comes.
Update: My period has come exactly on time, even though I have been eating very little these past few days. Seems like having to eat significantly more when your period is about to start is (thankfully) only something you have to do to regain it. Still, it's probably best to leave day-long fasts for the time after your period.

>>18475765
Deficit will reduce body fat. Calisthenics will increase muscle mass and definition

probably not fashion related but I am curious here but are you guys aware that most of the people who arent into fashion see most of you as homosexuals especially other men? yes I understand you guys dont care and you are all grown ups yadayada thats not what I am on about. thats a really faggy thing to be interested in. would you agree?

>>18475919
Are you gay or struggling with your sexuality? Genuine question. Because why would you care otherwise?

And how is it gay to care about your clothes and weight/health? All men should walk around looking, feeling, and smelling like shit?

You all keep brining up sexuality but almost no straight men who put effort into these things are single, or have trouble meeting women.

>>18475930
are you REALLY telling me you arent aware of the correlation between fashion of homosexuality? really? I am not asking gay people here but actual straight people. are you guys aware that most normal person see you as homosexuals? not asking if you guys care about it or not just about awareness.
>And how is it gay to care about your clothes and weight/health?
nothing wrong with taking care of yourself weight/health are the most important thing in life, never said anything about that.

>>18475931
>are you REALLY telling me you arent aware of the correlation between fashion of homosexuality? really? I am not asking gay people here but actual straight people. are you guys aware that most normal person see you as homosexuals?
I am straight, the correlation between fashion and homosexuality is old antiquated bullshit, maybe if you live in some flyover piece of shit town you're still encountering people who think gay if they meet a guy who's well groomed and dressed, but the rest of us have moved past that. And so what if people think that? What kind of man lives his life based on what other people think?
>nothing wrong with taking care of yourself weight/health are the most important thing in life, never said anything about that.
you're in the thinspo thread

>>18475937
ngl I am not into fashion I just sometimes see this board on the front page and get curious what motivates a straight guy to go all in into something like that. some things still dont make sense to me. on the one hand you guys try to look good, which is totally fine dont get me wrong here but on the other hand a lot of guys are overweight and weak looking. the fact that there is a "thinspo general" proofs my point, at least some of you guys are selfaware.

>>18475938
You're letting society decided your thoughts.
Again how is dressing well gay? That used to be the norm for men though 98% of human history, it's only recently that it's been associated with homosexuality and that period of time did not last long. A whole 30 or 40 years maybe before people go their shit together. As far as thisnpo threads goes, the men that post in these threads run on a spectrum, some want to be rail thin, others want an athletic build, some guys want weight loss tips and motivation, a few guys just like thin women and come here to talk about them, since most of western society (70% of adults) is overweight now. It's just a fact that you're going to look better in your clothes, and be attractive to more women, if you aren't a fat piece of shit.

>>18475945
>You're letting society decided your thoughts.
not really and not worth discussing since neither you nor me can make an actual objective argument here.
>Again how is dressing well gay?
I mean dude, on average girls are more into dressing up/make up and whatever. It has nothing to do with social norms or indoctrinated beliefs. just look at little children. on AVERAGE girls will play dress up and whatnot and boys will play with cars. no one told them what they have to do, they just go by their own interests. I have to make this wind up here because I have the feeling you believe in indoctrination. thats not rocket science I understand as a straight guy you dont want to hear that but men who are into female interest are looked upon as gay. its just the way it is.

>>18475950
>men who are into female interest are looked upon as gay. its just the way it is.
And...why exactly should anyone in this thread care about that? Most people are fat retards. Of what significance is their judgement?

Plenty of boys dress their toys up or want to customize the way they look. Most clothiers and tailors are straight men.
Do you even know what gay is? Again how does caring about your clothes, a necessary feature of human survival, indicative of wanting to sleep with men? I don't even understand how people come up with this shit.

>>18475954
I repeat myself I am not here trying to change my or your mind. I am just interested if you guys (straight ones) are aware that most people see you as homosexuals. Thats about it.

>>18475950
Plenty of boys dress their toys up, cars or action figures, and want to customize the way they look. Most clothiers and tailors are straight men.
Do you even know what gay is? Again how does caring about your clothes, a necessary feature of human survival, indicative of wanting to sleep with men? I don't even understand how people come up with this shit.

>>18475961
Dunno, most male hairdressers I have met and seen were OBVIOUS flamboyant homosexuals. I repeat myself that I dont have anything against them, its just my observation.

>>18475962
I know plenty of male hairdressers and makeup artist that are straight men anon, again it sounds like you just live in a shit place. And if you're a straight man why wouldn't you want a job that puts you around beautiful women, where you spend all day touching them to make them more beautiful? You're smart enough to not call your barber a homo even though he spends nearly every waking hour of his life exclusively touching, talking to, and grooming men. There's no logic in homophobia, not one bit. So fucking stupid.

>>18475962
post your weight fatty

>>18475919
Yeah society has a very narrow and unforgiving idea of acceptable behavior for males and if you dare go outside it people will say the most hurtful things they can think of to get you back in your lane, which ironically is what women do when they're upset.

>>18475950
what year are you in? do you go outside?
of course women want a man that knows how to present themself well. aspiring to look good is step one in achieving this
you seem to be conflating any amount of effort with going all in on the fashion lifestyle, this board is pretty dead now, but historically it has been both.
some are super interested in fashion and make it a lifestyle, you and many others think thats gay, whatever, if fashion is super important to you you are not trying to be as broad appealing as possible, and this will rule out some, but not all women, and women who are into fashion (beyond normie stacy level) are going to see you as a more appealing mate
if you don’t care about all that and just get a clean haircut, decent shape, and wear good fitting nice clothes that appeal to most, you are going to move a lot closer towards conventionally attractive, and no one except a small handfull of retarded males are going to think you are gay

Fuuuuuuck i need slim legs, like THIN

If gay pedophiles are the last force discouraging women from being fat, then I hail gay pedophiles.

>>18475919
The way you look is more important than anything else.
People are kinda vapid and superficial and care about how you look more than anything else, we dont even realize it, its instinct, we only care about beautifull people.

>>18461771 (OP)
Need more comparispo. Tumblr is so cucked now.

>>18462599
Portion makes the calories which makes the fat

>>18462832
Tracking exercise calories? Uh you don't. It'll very rarely ever be accurate and can you off. Go by BMR only unless your SURE of your sedentary maintenance and NEVER track exercise calories.

>>18463510
BMI? Honey we're grown ups here. We use the body fat percentage system for more accuracy. Skinnyfat is nasty.

>>18463676
Fr. They just add ingredients they see as healthy with no regard for calories.

>>18466488
Do you get sunlight/vitamin D? What's your exercise?

>>18477392
one of these women is considered skinny? they all look overweight to me.

if im hungry at the end of day does that mean i was deficiting

>>18477399
I've never seen a thin person complain about BMI

>>18477427
The one on the right passes the limit by a good margin so she's burger-skinny. The one on the left is wide but the middle is a lost cause.

>>18477435
no, you can eat a big meal early in the day and still be hungry by night
get used to being hungry, starve yourself, and you will be able to eat a lot less when you start eating again as your stomach will have shrunk in the meantime
what i do is go hungry for as long as possible until i have to eat
then you really really want to pig out but you have to resist and only eat something small
repeat hunger until you can’t not eat, have another small meal or snack
hunger is your friend

>>18477731
It really does feel like physical progress. Pigged out the start of this year and haven't felt hunger until now which was relieving, last summer I was inching towards the lower end of normal BMI and now that I had a taste of it I want to be as thin as that again if not then thinner still. It eventually becomes background noise once you get used to it at least in my case, there isn't much I can do now but accept that I let myself go and take it from here.

>>18477747
good stuff anon, sounds like you already know what you need to do
but being hungry at the end of the day isn’t indicative of much other than the fact that you are hungry

>>18467396
Which is weird because /fat loss/ exists always abd this is for skinny desire not just fat loss

>>18468108
You'd be skinnier if you rode your bike. I got rid of my car and walk everywhere, if I want food I have to walk to it abd carry it myself. If I want to go to a bar I have to walk there.

>>18469773
Belongs in CBT not Thinspo
>>18470482
No. You'd only gained fat not glandular tissue, you'd get floppy fat sacks. Not breasts. Not firm not perky. If you really really want breasts look into gummy bear implants, especially tear drop shape. Safest on the market and most natural in texture and appearance.

>>18470482
be grateful for what you have. i wish i was flatter but no matter how much weight i lose i can't get below a c cup.

>>18477427
In burger land yes.

>>18477486
Okay, well, just keep looking at pic related and remember that he has an acceptable bmi, he's well within acceptable standards, but in reality off paper he's a fat blob. If we all used body fat percentage instead it would tell him he was a fat blob, and not acceptable whatsoever.

>>18477486
lean people are the only ones who should be complaining about bmi as muscle mass is what makes it inaccurate, fatties just hide behind them as a cope.

>>18477813
Okay. I mean yeah he's skinnyfat and looks like shit, but he's not even at the midpoint between underweight and overweight, at 155 lbs he will look normal/thin. Like no shit you don't instantly become visibly thin at 24.9 BMI, it just gives you a rough idea of an individual's body composition and health status with little data, it's pretty good for what it is.
Bf% is better in theory but if you break it down it's just as bad. You say you're 12% bf and I still don't know if you're roided out or a skeleton, and I have no idea how that bodyfat is distributed, and I have no idea if you got a DEXA scan or if you used a useless electric impedance gadget, or some useless calculator, or if you just fucking eyeballed it.
I think all the stats the OP asks for is the most reasonable way to assess someone's body without actually seeing it.
>>18477818
Lean people are the most retarded about it. Understand that being "overweight" from lean mass is arguable more unhealthy than having a comparable amount of excess bodyfat. Aside from the steroids you'd typically have to do to get to that point, being fat isn't unhealthy because it's fat, it's unhealthy because your organs and endocrine system burn out trying to sustain the excess MASS, and muscle is more demanding than fat.

>cardio at 39°c today
i'm gonna be a skinny legend or die trying

>>18477865
You missed the point entirely then. I'm not talking about being lean, just having huge muscles or anything. I'm not talking about just lean mass outweighing the BMI scale whatsoever. I'm saying look at him. He is an acceptable weight. He is far from an acceptable body Fat. He is literally all fat and bones and organs, he does not have any healthy amount of muscle mass. He is all fat. So wouldn't you want to know that you're cutting away all your fat? His goal isn't being skinny i dont think, and I don't really know if his goal is being jacked either the point being he's acceptable weight, but he's not an acceptable body fat. He is not healthy whatsoever. But according to BMI, he is healthy. Either way, body fat is what's unhealthy. Body fat is unattractive. That's what should be measured.

dying for 3am taco bell
it's 10 minutes away
moments like these are why i've failed every other time
this time will be different

>>18477987
you can do it, i believe in you

Just hit 73kg so back to my "normal" weight. Might shoot for 65 or a bit lower just to see what happens. Fuck this fat concentration that sits precisely on top of my abs.

>>18477399
Centaur ass thumbnail

>>18478000
Kek

>>18478000
Fattest centaur I ever saw

any before/after pics? preferably with legs visible

>>18478028
Hmmmmmmmmmm maybe that'd be a search i took like zero before pics

What other websites/apps do you guys use to keep on track?

For calories I use MyNetDiary just because I like the UI and free barcode scanner.

>>18477988
i didn't get any i just stayed awake

>>18478109
I've trauma bonded with My Fitness Pal

It's too hot to play my favorite game: Eat <1400 kcal and watch my metabolism BryanJohnsonmax my organs into hypoperfusion.

Who's your ultimate thinspo? For me, it's Twiggy.

>>18478158
Anorexic Christian Bale. Granted I don't want to go full skelly mode, just thinner than average but he is example to me that theoretically anything is possible.

>>18478158
>Twiggy
adorbs

>>18478158
No name but

>>18478122
If you don't have the free barcode scanner it is so worth it to switch to another app. Unless you eat exclusively whole foods.

>>18478212
I just enter ingredients or make recipes i frequently use

>>18477399
if you don't workout your BMI should never exceed 20.

that's the rule.

>>18461771 (OP)
>current stats: sex, age, height, weight
m, 21, 6'0, 148 lb
>tdee and your deficit
~2400, currently doing 1800
>highest and lowest weight
220lb, 138 lb
>goal weight
125 lb
>preferred method of losing weight
water fasts, purging if i fucked up and binged
>aesthetic you are going for
skinny asf goth twink guitarist long hair type deal

chat is it over for me,

>>18478347
>tdee 2400
How do you figure?

>>18478347
i googeled a random ass tdee calculator and it gave me that. i go to the gym ~4 time (lately more like 3 times, wednesday, friday, saturday (sunday)) and like this is what it got me

i think its this one not sure doe

https://tdeecalculator.net

>>18478370
meant to tag you with >>18478372 this one sorry

I shit today

>>18477971
update: i survived. thank good for electrolytes

>>18478330
So if I workout an hour 3x a week and walk literally everywhere and my BMI is 21.5 im doing decent? Hell yeah.
Honestly, it's kind of hard to find a flaw in your logic there because I do believe that all or most men should be working out anyway. So it's not like you want all men to be skinny twinks. The workout rule is generally probably just a pretty good one. I've been saying for a little while now that 25 BMI is absolutely still fat. Anytime I see someone right on that 24-25 I just see a chubby person like pinchable chubby, like jelly roll chubby, and I have no idea how it's considered acceptable. Why IS it acceptable?

>>18478347
>>18478372
Yes thats a good calculator, buuuut just how hard is your workout? How consistent are you? Its very difficult to actually account for activity calories because its not just height and weight and activity duration, its also body composition and heart rate and type of activity and intensity and environmental conditions (you burn more calories in notable heat and cold). Best to not accounting for activity and just select sedentary as your activity level.
Out of curiosity, what do you do in the gym?

>>18478489
>Anytime I see someone right on that 24-25 I just see a chubby person like pinchable chubby, like jelly roll chubby, and I have no idea how it's considered acceptable. Why IS it acceptable?
I dunno, I think other people with a little chub are fine/attractive, I just don't like it on me.

>>18478508
Hell no thats how we got to this point of obesity and chubby being considered normal weight. Its not ok. Its not cute. Give fats an inch (or a cookie) and theyll take a mile (a glass of heavy cream).
This bitch is F A T. Just fat. She'd be so pretty if she could just avoid eating 3x big macs a day.

>>18478490
You are right, but he probably shouldn't go and change anything, until/unless he has to, if he's got a solid consistent routine that is working for him.

>>18478512
I mean, I guess I wouldn't say it's "fine", she's got enough excess fat that it's making her kind of mid, but she's not repulsive, she's fat and needs to lose weight, but she's not fat enough to be contemptible. If we had a caste system based on how fat you are, she would be Sudra but like 1lb away from Dalit.

>>18478529
>in thinspo thread
>anons insist an obese woman is not repulsive
Of course youre a street shitting jeet.

>>18478489
>because I do believe that all or most men should be working out anyway
why?

>>18478490
Typical workout for me would be
>Head to gym
>Be on the stationary bike for a bit, get heart rate up to ~155
>6 sets of 8 to 12 of e.g. lower back machine/abductor machine/ab machine/hip thrust/leg press
>Stretch
Will take me 1-1.5h cus my vo2max is terrible

>>18478530
>Of course youre a street shitting jeet.
You're just ignorant.
And yeah you're right, I'm just numb to how fat everyone is, especially considering I live in a rural shithole in one of the most obese states in the US. I don't really want everyone to be thin though, it wouldn't be special then. I wouldn't have my secret club anymore, thinspo wouldn't exist at all, there would be no fat hate threads, there would be no My 600-lb Life, I wouldn't feel superior to 75% of the population just by existing.
We should appreciate fat people.

How do I learn to hate food?

>>18478599
Sexual dimorphism good

>>18478600
Good routine. What weight do you lift?

>>18478602
>I want everyone to be ugly so that I'm the only beautiful one
>I dont want the standard to raise because I'll be left behind
>I dont want to lose the abundance of ugly people I have yo laugh at
This is a top nigger post of all time.

>>18478635
>Abs: 0.3x bw
>Back: 0.75x bw
>Abductors: 1.15x bw
>Leg press: 2x bw
>Hip thrust: 2.5x be
All in bodyweight cus it's easier
I kinds struggle a lot with leg press and hip thrust not because I put weights too large but my vo2max is so small that I run out of breath before u archive true overload

>>18478634
>Sexual dimorphism good
untrained men are still way stronger than women, so not needed. you can be way more productive with your time and learn an actual skill

>>18478678
Visual you dumbass. Woman petite man lean.

>>18478701
i mean those can be your preferences sure, but that shouldn't the reason an entire sex should do something specific. that's like saying every man should wear rick owens

>>18478704
Not everyone no, more like the default. Ever notice anatomical models have a default male and female build? If someone wants to deviate thats their body but its just the default.

>>18478731
>Ever notice anatomical models have a default male and female build?
and why should your hecking basedance models ne divine law? we're at a point in history where it really doesn't matter anymore. give palantier 5 more years and wars will be fought by exploding your phone battery and launching schrapnel in your brain

>>18478735
Lol you can be mad but its just default human. Your preference is yours in a partner and yourself (bad taste still exists tho) but thats the default. Muh science and progress be damned.

>>18478737
most humans didn't work out until very recently, to call that default is ridiculus

>>18478739
Every "point" you've raised is pants on head retarded. You can cope about being small and weak whatever way you wish but everyone with sentience is apalled by people like you. I've seen some shit but few come close to the feeling I get when I shake hands with a "guy" that just offers his limp sickly hand that I have a legitimate fear of crushing if I introduce any firmness in my shake. This isnt in any shape, way or form about me being yolked or handcrashing because both are false, don't reply with even more cope in hopes of free (You)s.

>>18478752
lmao nice strawman dude, i work out and train martial arts, i could literally break you in half. my point is, to spell it out for you since you're too retarded to understand from context clues, is that i really fucking hate this postmodern marvelslop masculinity that every single <90 mongrol is subscribing to. you're not a warrior, you're not a man, you're a simulacrum golem living out a theater play for the retarded and alienated postmodern humunculus. i don't give a fuck if you lift weights or compete in marathon dicksucking because this cybernetic hellhole is devoid of any inherent meaning

>>18478752
NTA, but I deliberately stopped going to the gym and cut down protein to ditch lean mass and get < 40 kg

2022: 42.3 kg, 8.3% bf / 38.79 kg FFM
2024 43.35 kg 5% bf / 41.18 kg FFM

I was losing my hair, my libido was gone and I experienced extreme bradycardia, couldn't shit or stay warm in 2024. Was eventually diagnosed with severe osteoporosis (if your libido goes, your BMD goes). In 2022, I had no such symptoms, but that's still my LW.

Now, I'm doing a controlled skinnyfat descent to reach <40 kg:

2025: 44.7 kg, 10.5% bf / 40.01 kg FFM

>>18478752
This is just the human body. If you don't look like this it's because youre actively choosing to look different via activity and intake.

>>18478780
>tfw no translucent skin
>tfw not completely hairless
i-it's

Where's the REAL average vs skinny line?

>>18478788
What's wrong with 18.5 BMI?

>>18478804
Well yeah but I mean visually. Is this sk8nn6 or average for example, and why?

>>18478814
lmao senpai, love the tism
language is a tool, it's an approximation to convey your thoughts to others (and yourself), so it's entirely dependand on context
for more information, consider reading Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus (1921) by Ludwig Wittgenstein

>>18478817
You could say its a personal question but yes tism. I know where I am after all

>>18478828
>You could say its a personal question but yes tism
i mean, i read Wittgenstein, that's the most bulletproof autism diagnosis there is. to answer your question, skinny for me means visible ribs from the front, below the collarbone, so i would count your pic as skinny

>>18478761
How tall r u

>>18478848
170

>>18477392
>>18477812
What site are these pictures from? It looks like Amazon but I can't find the listing / reviews.

>>18478854
Honestly good on you, that's like 2.5 kg over lethal. Lowk wish I had ur mental strength, I'm omw to only BMI 16.5 instead of 13.8

Left my wallet at home by accident so I cant buy any food
I should do this more often heh

how thin can a leg theoretically get?

>>18478976
About 4

>>18478866
They are from Amazon yes, just search any clothing item tap a top result tap the stars rating and it'll show reviews. American woman looooove feeling attention even as a review where they can't receive comments or reply. Men sometimes, but only on very very specific types of fashion.

Anyway the comparispo im looking for is Amazon style, pink puffy maid dress. Fat ogre in her cave vs petite fairy with a clean cute room. I tried finding it myself on Amazon but I just can't.

>>18478637
I'm sure you believe everything you just said is true and that's fine, it doesn't really matter if you can understand the concept I'm trying to convey :T

I've noticed that the thinner I get, the more my preference in men shifts towards thin ones. It might be that when I was chubby, I had a subconscious aversion to thin men because the contrast would make me look even fatter.
Another thing that is increasing in proportion to my thinness is my sense of perfectionism, probably because I have more to lose now, and because I find it all the more frustrating to not look exactly like my ideal when I know that I am not too far away from it.

>>18475861
>increase muscle mass and definition
Can this happen with too low a calorie intake? I figured the body needed both protein and calories for any muscle growth to occur.

I can't care that much anyways. I prefer my body to look svelte than muscular.

>>18478602
I get what you mean to some extent, but I still wouldn't see the existence of actual fatness as a positive. Ideally, I'd want the majority to have a BMI in the lower half of the normal range. That way, I could still feel proud of having a better body than most, but without having to look at the overweight or obese, since the sight of them genuinely disgusts me.

>>1847947
>Another thing that is increasing in proportion to my thinness is my sense of perfectionism, probably because I have more to lose now, and because I find it all the more frustrating to not look exactly like my ideal when I know that I am not too far away from it.

Sounds like you are developing an eating disorder

>>18479492
>>18479471
Fkn fat fingers

>>18479472
You can grow muscle without calories it's just slower. It's worth doing as a guy anyway, no one wants a soft flabby skinnyfat man, just a little definition does nicely.

>>18479251
Right looks better

Anyone get real pissy in the morning without breakfast? I've been going without breakfast for a few days and I've noticed my temper riles up real easy. I'm going to keep going, my body should acclimate to no breakfast eventually. Just got to hold my tongue a bit more.

>>18479497
Well that's a relief, maybe the body gets its extra energy from fat in cells? I do agree with you on definition it only helps a man look better. For my belly I'm doing planks, crunches and twists.

Haven't posted but I did a 3 day fast on the last thread. Shit is going well and I'm going to hit gw by next week most likely. Also got shipped with a goth girl, I am winning.

>>18479492
>Sounds like you are developing an eating disorder
Is /fit/ sending you fat fuckers over here? Do you realize where you are? You are literally on a proana thread. I would suggest you go diet with the normies if you don't want cumulative psychic damage from being here.

>>18479493
>>18479471 here. As I've said, I haven't reached my ideal yet, but I'm not fat, either.

>>18479493
Shit, I'm retarded. I thought you were accusing me of having fat fingers. Ignore the post I made earlier if you see it.

>>18479530
>>18479530
>>18479530
Are you dense? They said they were chubby and now getting thinner and it's affecting their thought patterns, implying they previously had no ED and are developing one, and I never said developing an ED was bad...

>>18479502
if you're into whales yeah

>>18479574
Sorry I'm not gay

>6 ft
>framelet
Should I just accept my fate and start wearing women's clothes? Surely nobody could tell if I wore a high-end knitwear item, for example

>>18479635
Women's clothes wouldn't fit you since they're designed for people 10 inches shorter than you
Just wear a toga

At this point there are only 2 options.

>binge, feel high, crash after food overload, feel shit, gain weight
or
>fast, feel shit, reach autophagy, feel high, lose weight

It's very simple isn't it? It always was. Feel like shit now to feel like a god later, or stay the same and stay fat.

>>18479315
I can't really insult someone like you because I know what it's like to have your mindset and wouldn't actually wish it on anyone. I hope you can find a true source of self love in your life.

>>18462143
>>18462236
Put some iodised table salt on your tongue whenever you're hangry or dizzy and it goes away.

>Come back home from a very long walk
>Scale puts me at 71kg, elated
>Drink 1L of water
>Weight in again for the lols
>73.8
????????????????????????

>>18479763
Maybe you moved the scale between measurements?
Are you the guy who's trying to replace eating with gooning?

>>18479635
get in the skirt and stockings shinji

>M/20/6'0/300lbs
> BMR: 2446 TDEE: 2935
> Highest: 325lbs (circa 2020/2021), lowest (~220lbs in 2022)
> 250 Is a good start. If I could be 220 or 200 that'd be ok too.
> Cutting back caloric intake
> I don't know, just not chubby

>>18463587
well you didn't mention tumblr or bluesky..

>>18479970
Tumblr will ban you for just thinking about reducing calories.
>>18479969
Small goals first. Don't worry about the lowest weight for a while. I started at 180lbs 5'0, my "lowest goal" was 140lbs at first because that was the lowest I could remember feeling ok. I got to 150 and moved the lowest to 130, then figured we'd make it 128 which is the line of acceptable and overweight. Then I hit 130 and realized I still looked super overweight. New goal was 115lbs. Pushed it to 110lbs. All I really needed was to keep my eye on the next goal. From obese class 2 to obese class 1 to overweight to straight middle of the road.

Gpnna intentionally ignore the mirror for a month to see my progress more directly

>>18479969
Was in a similar position last year at M/26/6'2/350lbs
Currently 220 after 13 months of cutting. It'll become addicting.

there's something really pathetic about tall fat men, how are you even overeating when your tdee is that high...

How do I get my diet to survive my upcoming birthday and the onslaught of delicious cake that comes with it?

>>18480168
Just eat as much cake as you want, it's your birthday ffs.
You probably won't be able to eat 1k above your usual daily calorie intake and could painlessly skip breakfast and lunch the next day.

>>18480168
Eat like 200cal less the rest of the weeklies 3 days before 3 days after. Nothing extreme or you'll swerve wildly.

>>18462178
Very cute girl
Just putting that out there before the thread disappears and I will never see her again.

>>18479993
Coming from the opposite direction. Last July I was 180lbs (5'8" tall) touching 17X.Xlbs on some good days. Sitting at ~215lbs right now which was where I started that year, thankfully I never stopped running so I'm always burning calories. Part of it is from my wide frame so the only thing I can look forward to is removing depth (primarily belly but fat is everywhere).

The bright side of having gone that low was realizing people like >>18479980 are right and that it can get better/lower. Went from XL to M that year and I refuse to get anything L or larger so I'm stuck with my old clothes and new Uniqlo M stuff to start the wardrobe. Once I get back down there in the span of a few months my goal will be to inch towards 160lbs and below without symptoms especially hair thinning and such.

Day 1 of fast

not fasting for the 4th. im basically gonna eat like a mf big back today and i def did yesterday cause i will be out with friends. tomorrow going to start a long haul fast to cancel that shit out. wish me luck boys.

>>18479980
>Tumblr will ban you for just thinking about reducing calories.
i have not made my return to edtumblr figuring it had got bad but that's wild. that shit was my childhood. feelsbadman

>>18480344
If only you knew how bad things really are... there was a bitchin' account like EDConfessions and alarmingly so much was "I actually really dont like fat people but im forced to be nice a d say its only skinny for me ir ill be termed" or brands/meals they hated/loved, why they were really so driven to skinny. Shit was nuked after a great 2 weeks. If you use tags you'll be gone very quickly, tags change often anyway and are very l33tspeak.

I wish to find some goal beyond weight loss itself. Like modeling for example, or a sport. I want my body to be a reflection of my aspirations; not just an aesthetic exploration.

>>18480896
I signed up for a 5km run in August. Running is effay and skinny

>>18480901
Considering ballet and figure skating. Anything that encourages ED will do.

>>18480902
Unfortunately I'm autistic and I completely lack grace.

should i drop milk? i drink a glass of milk every morning (with a spoonful of sugar too)
i'm sure this will add a lot of calories and i don't work out too much
i only do 5 sets of squats, pushups and crunches, and walk for 2 hours

>>18481006
yes drink herbal tea

>>18481073
green tea?

>>18481082
Thats not herbal you retard. Thats still the same plant as black tea. Herbal tea means non caffiene herbs, flowers, fruit.

>>18481006
Do... you not count calories? Jesus christ even Hamberlynn Feed counts calories (inaccurate but she TRIES)

No more binging, I'm never gonna eat a whole pizza ever again.

>>18480282
Day 2 of fast. It's my day off so I'm bedmaxxing.

>>18481410
Been there. Your intestines will thank you.

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