Thread 18463692

Dirty white bucks edition

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where to find straight fit corduroy throusers, with as little tapering as possible if any
the closest I've been able to get is ralph lauren
budget is 400€ and im open to buying vintage

>>18463697
Get some MTO from Suitsupply or Indochino or Proper Cloth. Half the price of RL and with MTO you can choose your straight fit ot tapering or whatever perfectly how you want it. Iirc Suitsupply has 100% cotton corduroys

Please recommend me good linen overshirts, or overshirts in any other material that's good for summer, thanks.

What pants are these?

>>18463692 (OP)
Trad Ivy Prep.

>>18463770
It's the guy from Casatlantic, so probably Casatlantic

>>18463692 (OP)
don't forget to link to the previous thread >>18434527 . Anyone reading these from an archive in the future will appreciate it. Speaking of, does anyone know where I can find /tip/ archives going back further than 2020? That's where warosu is ending for me.

>>18463864
>Anyone reading these from an archive in the future will appreciate it.
Apologies, I didn't think of those reading through the archives.
>/tip/ archives going back further than 2020?
Looks like archived.moe has /fa/ threads archived but search isn't enabled. Sorry I can't be of further help.

>>18463697
I got RL prepster dark navy cords from house of fraser and i highly doubt they were more than 100 quid
They fit gloriously though and i love the fabric though crotch is a but busted now

>>18463864
Are you new to imageboards? Old threads getting permanently deleted is on purpose.

There are older threads on the internet archive from 2016ish. Back in the day this thread wasn't called /tip/ it was called /preppy/.

Since the tip thread is like 7 people or less now - I'm probably the only one who remembers lol

>>18464025
>>18463864
ok, i take it back. I did not know 4chan was excluded from the internet archive lol. I'm pretty sure there once were saves from as far back as 2016 at least

>>18464037
>>18463864
https://archive.is/>>>/fa/catalog

>>18463697
maybe peter christian. lowest size is W32 though

Where can I find pants that fit like the ones the guy on the right is wearing? I tried O'Connells khakis but they're nowhere near as roomy as these

How do you deal with putting all this work in to just look like a normal dude, then being told you look like a fag for not wearing Walmart clothes to the office?

>>18464077
Hate to say it but J crew Classic fit or their new broken in straight fit for a slightly higher rise
Or bronson army officer trousers but you might find those too wide
https://bronsonshop.com/products/1944-usmc-officer-trousers-khaki?

>>18464288
Being a weirdo who doesn’t fit in is part of the appeal. I come from a different alien culture and you should treat me as an outsider.

In fact the perfect amount of standing out is without a blazer or oxfords. It’s boat shoes and ocbd - enough where nobody notices except for people who pay attention

there's two kinds of weird when it comes to clothing, weird but interesting (fashion dudes, dressing up like subcultures, etc), and weird as in looking like you've been dressed by your grandparents and genuinely don't understand why people think you look weird

>>18464068
lowest?

>>18463692 (OP)
>white bucks
Excuse my pardon?

>>18464740
meant smallest

>>18463697
Bryceland army chinos in corduroy

>>18465073
damn, those look pretty good
do you own those or some other stuff from them? are the worth the money?

>>18465246
I own them and think it was worth it. Very good cut and textile, similar cut to the army chino made by The Armoury. You can get a lower price buying in person in Asia.

>>18464695
what about the weird as in you think this looks cool and stylish, but it's worse than gaudy?

>>18464311
Those are way too low-rise and slim to be calling themselves classic fit, and they're made by a company that can’t get qc under control
>>18464077
Why do you want to look like that?

>>18464769
Downright peculiar

What's the /tip/ way to style a P-44 jacket like pic rel

I wear pleated pants and chinos with my sneakers (coastal area). Why do chuds keep telling me to swap the shoewear for something low-heeled like moccasins

>>18466081
Don’t. Military stuff is for plebian poors and cringe rightoids. Get a chore jacket instead. Choose high quality materials and styled with enough contrasting color to your shirt underneath

What's the male equivalent?

>>18466093
They might think sneakers are too sporty for the rest of your outfit. They're certainly too informal for dress trousers, but so are moccasins. I would wear loafers here.

>>18466356
Hey, I know this girl from instagram. She's one of those girls where you can't decide if she's hot or kinda ew. I think the zommers call it "beautiful mid"

Anyway, male equivalent is the same hoodie and chinos instead of the pleated skirt. Duh. Don't wear a ring as a necklace, people will think you're a widower

>>18466454
I'd say she's cute instead of hot.

What is it about this color combination that looks so preppy? It just looks like money.

>>18466526
Navy blue with a hint of red is super preppy, like a navy blazer with a repp tie featuring red. Simple as.

>>18466171
I am a plebeian poor.

>>18466757
Get a harrington jacket (Baracuda, Lacoste, RL) or a bomber jacket (RL). Much more preppy. London fog golf jackets also work. Wear over an OCBD or broadcloth shirt.

>>18466638
>low rise
Wear proper pants up to the waist you fag. Low rise is not trad. The only men who should wear low rise are the ones with a short torso, so that it balances the proportions out.

>>18466838
Nothing inherently bad about low rise, but that guy does look awful in those pants.

>>18464025
I remember how anons complained about the low post count and degenerating discussion back in 2018. Oh how the time flies.

>>18466842
Aesthetic faux pas aside, they aren't good even from a health and medical perspective. They're bad for your bladder. Your pants and belt always constricting your crotch will damage your urinary bladder. And bladder damage takes much longer to heal, and if it continues then you could lose control over it. They are also bad for testicular health, because they don't let them regulate their temperature properly, giving you lower T-levels and sperm count.

>>18466171
Terrible advice. As an american, larping with military inspired clothing is infinitely more authentic & interesting than larping as a french peasant. And its also very /tip/.
>>18466093
Because theyre uncreative and dont understand sneakers can be a cool contrast with slightly more formal clothing. And moccasins are a pretty bad choice for slacks, theyre too rugged-feeling. If you wanted to dress it up you'd want loafers or derbies.

>>18466838
>>18466847
>>18466842

These aren’t even low rise. They’re mid rise. And five pocket JEANS as you can see. It’s a riff on expected “trad” look with khaki jeans as an updated version of chinos. Wearing pants up to your nipples makes you look autistic

>>18463692 (OP)
Those are some pointy shoes.

>>18467318
That's just a faggy millennial mindset. Pants are meant to sit at the waist, not the crotch. That's where women started wearing their pants in the early 2000's to show off their bellies and ass crack while wearing crop tops. And making your legs look shorter and as if you don't have hips by wearing your pants low is retarded and a dysgenic look.

>>18467376
the girl's outfit really couldn't be any less flattering. If women want to look "/tip/", they should just stick to dresses mostly

>>18467370
>>18467376
You have pictures of male models saved on your computer. You are gay. But the second guy looks good

>>18467463
Probably had a woman moment when she decided to wear that.

>>18467479
It would be gay only if they were doing gay things.

>>18466638
What makes this mid is the slim fit clothing, and the way the OCBD clashes with more rugged pants and shoes. Notice the fit in >>18467502 looks way better because the guy has a full fit shirt on and low boat shoes rather than boots. The rise also isn't good either. With a fuller shirt and higher, fuller pants this would fill out the frame, right now it emphasizes the skinny frame of the wearer. A checked shirt pattern like a gingham would also be more appopriate for the more rugged footwear and 5p trousers here.

>>18467522
the bottom line is dressing like a sears catalogue from 1992 makes you look like an autist. I was wearing boots because it's been raining nonstop for a week and i cycle to work. A button down OCDB is literally a sport shirt...it was originally intended for rugged activities. But either way i like the contrast between wearing 'nice' clothes ruggedly...haven't yall heard of sprezz?

>>18467554
You're wearing the exact same clothing, the only difference is the fullness of the cut and the shoes. Conceptually its perfectly fine and only looks worse than the J crew catalog because of shrinkflation

>>18467377
How are 90s J Crew catalogs so damn perfect. The whole vibe is just immaculate. They always have creative layering & uses of pieces like Ralph Lauren photoshoots, but in a less artisticly flamboyant and more imitable, easy to wear way.

>>18467654
Dude's wearing a shirt with a collar under a shirt with a collar.

>>18467654
I wish I could layermax like that without drowning in sweat

Vintage PRL Andrews are often recommended as an inexpensive high waisted pant. Pretty tough to come by in Europe though. I see that 90s vintage Dockers (that don't have the "since 1850" on the tag, pic related) are available on Vinted. They also seem to have a 12" front rise based on ebay listings. Any experiences?

>>18467670
yo dawg, I heard you like collars

What do you guys think about button downs from other fabric than oxford cloth? Like linen-cotton blend weaves? Obviously not from 100% linens. I ordered a fabric sample of Proper cloths merino-cotton blends and must say ...I kinda see it for a button down for winter.

>>18466638
Casual Friday

Any t shirts you like?

>>18468815
I'm a fan of broadcloth button downs, they're a better choice than OCBDs for more formal occasions.

>>18468815
Broadcloth, linen, viyella, seersucker are all good shirting fabrics for this. This is also fine to do on 100% linens.

For thinner cottons than broadcloth you can also do a one-peice collar (pictured) but this is not prep.

>>18468815
I like corduroy button downs in fall

>>18464077
Looks like an early military repro, probably Warehouse 1082 or Buzz Rickson's original spec chinos. I have the latter and they are great.

>>18463692 (OP)
What are the tip version of authentic Aran sweaters? There is "Aran Crafts", "Aran Sweater Markets", some made by Ralph Lauren... what should do

Summer dress shirt suggestions? Is it possible to find actual sized dress shirts in linen or other summer fabrics? I see only S M L shirt sizing which suck for neckwear. I understand the fabrics aren't as formal in most situations, but if you can find suits made for summer in the South like seersucker and linen certainly you find appropriate cool wearing shirts that match the formality.

>>18469625
I don't own one but found these while looking a while ago. Hand knit in the UK
https://www.blarney.com/irish-shop/traditional-aran-sweater-natural/
One made out of lambs wool would be nice if you can find it.

>>18469802
You can buy linen shirts MTO online from Proper Cloth, Mercer & Sons, Juniors. If you live in a big city you should look into local MTM options.

>>18466429
>>18467052
They aren't so bad

>>18469625
https://www.inverallanknitters.com/product/1a-country-meetings-crew-neck-sweater-100-medium-weight-lambswool-range/

>>18469988
Consider more rugged trouser materials like moleskin or canvas that might soften the look of the complex suede patterns on the shoes.

>20C
>heavy rain
What do you wear to work?

>>18470382
A trench coat.

>>18469911
Looks like Kamakura offers them as well.

>>18469151
>>18469382
>>18469510
What the fuck. Broadcloth button downs are so off. What the fuck. Lmao.

>>18469810
>>18470024
NTA, but do you guys even know anything about tip? Or do you just answer questions on this thread with the first hit on Google?

Why is it impossible to find decent Oxford button downs now?

>>18470382
Dress shirt and dress trousers or else oxford and chinos as usual, rain jacket from Filson, Blundstones for commute, slip into loafers I have stashed under desk once at work. Maybe a sweater for morning and night if I’m still there.

>>18468815
At this point Oxford cloth is like a security blanket for me. It’s just the best fabric for everything year round. If it’s really too hot for Oxford I’m wearing a polo or a t shirt.

>>18471335
Kamakura, not the vintage ivy ones, the NY slim fit
Or Jakes if you can afford em.

>>18463692 (OP)
A few questions
1. is it acceptable at any time to wear a navy & trousers to a wedding instead of a suit in your opinion?
For context I'm in my mid 20s and a friend of mine will be getting married sometime in the next year. I don't yet have a good suit so I'm looking for one, but I'm also looking for a nice navy blazer.

I'm sure people will be dressed like slobs so a blazer and tie will still appear fine but I wanted /tip/'s opinion anyway.

2. Is it wrong that I'm okay with wearing my OCBDs when they're somewhat wrinkled? I'll iron shirts if the wrinkles look ugly but if I have a shirt that's lightly wrinkled I usually just wear it like that anyway.

3. Any recommendations on styles of shorts for wearing in hot weather and specifically any recommendations on swim trunk styles to look for? Thanks.

>>18471472
>navy blazer and trousers to a wedding
I wore exactly that to my friend's wedding a few months ago. If you're that unsure you can just ask them about it, but they'll probably say it's okay.

>Somewhat wrinkled OCBDs
Perfectly acceptable. In fact TIP fits look best when they're slightly disheveled, giving them that "lived-in" look.

>>18471491
that's about what I figured.
I thrifted a navy blazer that I like, but it's slightly too long, the sleeves are a bit long, and the shoulders are just a touch too wide for me. I still wear it sometimes, but I'm still looking for a good navy blazer.

I'm still pretty poor so I can't splurge on anything, so I'm still looking in thrift stores every now and then for something that fits better that I can then have tailored. eBay isn't ideal because I won't know how the shoulders fit until I try it on.

Apart from secondhand could you recommend any low-end but decent brands for navy blazers around, say, $200?

>>18471335
How is it impossible? What’s the challenge? Kamakura. MTO from Proper Cloth or Suitsupply. Or like all the usual suspect brands like Jpress Brooks Bros etc.

>>18471472
> is it acceptable at any time to wear a navy & trousers to a wedding instead of a suit in your opinion?

Most weddings? Yes. At any time? No. Especially no if the couple specified a dress code.

>>18467443
You are 22 unemployed and homeschooled, stop posting

>>18471472
>1. is it acceptable at any time to wear a navy & trousers to a wedding instead of a suit in your opinion?
Never do that when the invitation has a dress code. People often write to wear a suit or to wear black tie. If the wedding is like bohemian they might not write it on the invite but then you'll probably already know anyway. In all other cases yes, go for it.
> 2. Is it wrong that I'm okay with wearing my OCBDs when they're somewhat wrinkled?
Oxford cloth: fine. If it is linen or linen/cotton weave: please don't
> 3. Any recommendations on styles of shorts for wearing in hot weather
In tip styling never. In tip styling adults wear proper pants, only children wear shorts.
If you venture out of being tip: I think 100% linen shorts are cool for a relaxed holiday look.

Putting together a seersucker outfit suitable for summer in the South. Where is a decent place to get brown /white spectators or white wingtip oxfords. Seems like every shoe manufacturer worth a damn has discontinued them, and eBay has been disappointing and overpriced for used shoes.

>>18471793
Shorts are /ip/

Any recommendations for linen trousers. Everything is low rise or has those awful drawstring/ elastic waistbands

>>18472110
MTM from Suitsupply. Choose a fit that is as high rise as you want. No elastic band you can choose real horn buttons instead. Choose whatever 100% linen fabric you want

>>18467810
I've ordered about twenty pairs by now. When you figure out which mod3ls have which labels you're set. They're all nice in different ways. Good luck.

>>18472110
Just tie the string

>>18471789
Brother, I'm 29 as you can see from my hat

>>18472110
You can add belt loops to pants

>>18472519
See I had heard that but asked a respected tailor to do it once, using the leftover fabric from unhemmed trousers, and they said they couldnt.
>>18472516
Yeah but those kind of drawstrings on actual pants look very off with most /tip/ clothes.
>>18472110
This is a completely different suggestion which might not be helpful but try tropical wool trousers if you havent. Just as cool as linen but a little more formal and theyre crisp enough they don't need to be ironed every day.

>>18472526
You can use a belt without the loops

>>18472526
Tuck the stings in

Looking for some high rise chino recommendations available in EU.

>>18472854
sorry for the boring answer but just get MTM from Suitsupply or Proper Cloth

>>18463692 (OP)
What's the high quality version of boat shoes like these from paraboot? (European, so no access to Alden)

>>18473071
Not a lot of EU options that aren't all faggy and European looking. Allegedly that paraboot ones are reasonable quality just overpriced.

>>18473469
>reasonable quality just overpriced
That's the opposite of what i heared. Some time ago here on /fa/ people said they were bad quality. And they are super cheap, they practically give them away for free: this "lisse america" color is only 200 bucks

I will be attending two weddings this summer and I want to make a new MTM-suit, but I'm not entirely sure what to make. I currently have a black, double breasted suit in irish linen, navy, double breasted fresco suit and a couple of blazers but I don't think I want to go that route. Any suggestions? Dress code for both weddings is 'no green'.

>>18472854
casatlantic
berg&berg at 40-60% off (for now is 40%)
bronson/olderbest (china but customer service is ok), no inseam length variants so forget them if you're tall
peter christian (uk ships to eu)
also see >>18467810

Looking to get some new loafers to replace a very beat pair of Weejuns. I'm gravitating towards Rancourt, for whom I feel there is not much competition, but I'm wondering if their designs are too casual - with the contrasting sole? I really only wear them casually but still.

>>18469625
Bought one this winter from Aran Sweater Market, it's quite good.

>>18471335
Still very possible. I've recently bought some from Press and Mercer (fantastic but full) for regular oxfords, and an O'Connells unlined & unfused which is fantastic but very lightweight and great for summer.

>>18474018
Actaully the Meermin in shell looks like a good deal if the quality is fair.

>>18473071
Yuketen could be an option.

It’s the baby’s baptism today so I have a reason to dress “up”. There’s a bit of irony to /tip/ because it’s based on clothing that was ostensibly informal in the past, but a very technically informal outfit like this is today considered dressed up and fancy most of the time.

Anyway this is the /tip/ conformist fit; kamakura shirt and tie, BB jacket off eBay, and rancourt beef rolls. I regret that I didn’t iron my pants or shirt (but I did at least fix that weird collar wrinkle).

>4th of July Kamakura shirt
>already own every single Kamakura classic item that is currently on sale.
Man.... I was hoping to get the last two colors I needed for the parachute cloth shirts.

>>18474042
If you subscribe to the shoe mart factory seconds emails, you can just pick up Alden shell LHS for 400.

>>18473534
Are you sure that was Paraboot? Never owned a pair but what you're stating is something that could be said about sperry. Even their nicest stuff is always on insane sales for $40 a pair, legit actual boat shoes that can get wet tossed after hard use.

>>18471335
Can you give me your body dimensions?

>>18466638
>7 buttons
who is gonna tell him....


>>18466847
Based ball doctor. Low rise pants are complete bullshit. I want space for my balls when I sit.

>>18467318
I don't understand what you're saying here by calling them five pocket jeans as if that excludes them from being better with a standard higher rise. Those were practically part of the uniform in take ivy.

>>18474197
A classic, smart fit but for such an important event you really should have ironed your shit beforehand. Also it looks like your collar is missing or needs stays.

>>18474215
What is wrong with 7 buttons? Its the Lord's number

Switched to wearing higher waisted pants and I no longer want to kill myself when I see myself in the mirror. It really was my horrifically short legs ruining everything.

>>18474215
>>7 buttons
>>18474442
>who is gonna tell him....
> What is wrong with 7 buttons? Its the Lord's number
We know you're talking to yourself anon. That's just an autistic hyperfixation. IRL nobody has ever cared about this.

>>18475225
Yeah

What type of consideration would help me decide between (same colour) horsebit loafers and penny loafers?

>>18475325
Do you already own any loafers?
Horsebit loafers are faggier and more flamboyant but definitely have their place as long as you don't dress like a prick. Penny loafers range from very informal and casual american style like Rancourt to extremely sleek and faggy european style like one of the dressier options from Carmina.
If you want horsebit loafers look at the ones from TLB Mallorca, much better quality then the Gucci ones for a fair price. Also horsebit loafers are a shoe where blake stitch is arguably preferable to goodyear welt construction since it will be much less stiff and more comfortable.

>>18475367
If one of the first things you think of when discussing loafers is the construction method, then my dude, the internet gave you mental illness.
Yes, I already have black penny loafers and I want another pair of a light colour. I still can't decide if horsebit or penny again.

>>18475325
Matching metals. Just like you're already matching leathers (shoes, belt, wallet, bag) you should be matching metals as well e.g. brass horsebit loafers with brass beltbuckle or stainless steel, brushed aluminum...

Any good places to check out while I am in Tokyo?
Also, why are there so many vintage stores in Japan? Seems like it’s the only thing the kids here wear.

>>18476663
>Also, why are there so many vintage stores in Japan?
Because they have the culture for it.

I wear my shell 986s daily, I don’t get people that save things they like for “special occasions”. Forgot where I read this in one of the OP links blog.
>>18476663
Because people give a shit over there. They genuinely care about life beyond being fat TV cattle wearing basketball shorts, graphic tees, and particle board furniture.

Paris fit.

>>18476768
That’s not /tip/. You’re literally wearing a historical military uniform.

>>18463692 (OP)
There is a J. Crew nearby hiring. Should I get a job there for a couple months?

Also how do I get stains out of CVOs? I'm afraid of putting them in the washing machine.

>>18463870
What is this why am I looking at a guy with hydrocephalus sitting in a chair outside a house

Is this aspirational to you? Like damn dude I wish I had some chinos and a deformity

>>18477047
why is anon seething? He doesn't like shotguns?

>>18464077
>Where can I find pants that fit like the ones the guy on the right is wearing? I tried O'Connells khakis but they're nowhere near as roomy as these

https://jpressonline.com/products/boxy-fit-cotton-chino-khaki

On sale for 4th of july

>>18476768
You look like the most degenerate loser ever.

>>18475812
Literally who sell this. Matching leather on loafers + belt is the absolute height even at very high end producers. I call bullshit, this doesn’t exist.
>>18475367
The femininity of some loafers comes from sharp nose of some mediterranean producers. It’s traditional that way but looks like shit

>>18477510
Maybe I don't understand you very well, but you know that you can buy a belt and shoes from Alden, of the same leather? And yeah I also hate fag pointy loafers. Most euro fashion looks extremely effeminate.

Any help in finding white bucks or white wingtip shoes? For such a staple shoe they are impossible to find in stock, or come with the ugliest fucking soles ever made if by the big shoemakers.

>>18477544
>Maybe I don't understand you very well, but you know that you can buy a belt and shoes from Alden, of the same leather
Exactly. The MOST you can get is same leather is shoes and belt (e.g. from Alden). Getting everything (shoes, belt, wallet, briefcase, watch band, weekender, boots...) is unrealistic. Let alone matching all metals as well. Anon is fucking lying.

Does tucking my t-shirt into my jeans make me one of you?

>>18477588
Not enough info, and you can wear an OCBD untucked with some madras shorts or five pocket jeans and birkenstocks and its /tip/

>>18477585
i think he just meant matching the general color, e.g. "don't wear brown shoes with a black belt"

>>18476788
No, it’s a Norfolk jacket.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norfolk_jacket

It is for casual wear. Notice no lapels or insignia of any kind. Norfolk jackets were used for hunting typically way back.

>>18478454
Yeah sorry still looks ridiculous to me, I don't mean to be mean I'm just being blunt with you since that is what I also expect from everyone here. Although I use this thread to just make an office wardrobe so I won't look like an autist or a slob.

Got a wedding next month. Was thinking of either: brown loafers, beige chinos, light blue ocbd, either a red knitted or guards tie, navy blazer (fairly standard for /tip/), or the same but with a long sleeve knitted polo and neckerchief.

>>18476768
I didn’t know Paris’ Carnival is in July

>>18473978
green three piece

Was going to buy more pants from Kamakura for 4th of July sales but opted to get a viking press attachment for a landmine barbell. Might be able to overhead press again without my lower spine tweaking out.
I could probably still get more pants. Was looking for an additional pair of the off-white 5 pocket, and another pair of the wool trousers but in light gray.
For shirts I have 11 total, I have 2 of the light blue, 2 of the white, and 2 of the ecru, and its cheaper to just buy them directly from Japan through a proxy than any sale discount could ever give me.

Just asking, do I have enough pants?
I don't like wearing chinos. If there are any other pants you know of on sale just know I expect 12" front rise, very few companies are putting that out.

>>18479100
i didn't really read what you wrote but your wardrobe collage looks nice (albeit slightly autistic)

>>18479100
>Do I have enough pants
I don't know, but I'm also interested in 5 pocket pants with a high rise.

I have some wool trousers with a high rise from Ballin but they aren't cheap and aren't 5 pocket so I'm looking for other options.

>>18479171
That's funny since I tried to be as autistic as possible about building a wardrobe that would make it near impossible to look autistic in a business casual setting.

>>18479232
i don't mean the wardrobe looks autistic, but that you made a collage with all your items of clothign

Who sells the best (or least compromising) high rise chinos? Don't really want to go vintage if possible

>>18479569
Someone had the same question as you >>18472854. NTA but this: >>18473020 was a good answer. Basically everything else sucks once you've tried MTO. Also, MTO isn't as expensive as it sounds – if you buy Jpress or PRL it's basically the same price

I'm looking for overear headphones with mic for homeoffice work. It has to be with usb dongle since shitty work laptop has all bluetooth blocked and stuff

I'm asking here in the tip thread because every recommendation out there are "gamer" styled headphones. The only "neutral" looking headphones that are compatible with tip styling I know are Apple Airpods Max but they don't have a usb dongle (and don't have a mic)

I can't be the only one with this challenge, right? Everyone here on the tip thread works white collar and must have had the same problem

>>18477047
I imagine he uploaded this pic because it's on theme? (White bucks)
Also, it's just a picture, anon.
>>18466638
A higher rise and a fuller cut and it would have been fine, even with the boot.
>>18476768
Is it Vichy France Paris...?

>>18477510
I dont think he meant literally the exact same leather, just the same shade/finish...

I want a herringbone car coat
What are some good options, anons? My budget is up to 800 ameribux

>>18475367
>>18475325
i own the Carmina horsebit loafers and they're excellent. I've had my pair for years and they were like $150 cheaper than they are now. Bidenflation did a number on the footwear industry

what, wasn't this thread archived yesterday?

>>18483273
someone had a schizo meltdown about indians and spammed 50 of the same thread to the catalogue so I believe they deleted those and restored what was archived

>>18479569
Todd Snyder, Brycelands, The Armoury, Rota, O'Connels

>>18479100
Consider corduroy trousers as either dress trousers or 5p, in dark brown, cavalry twill dress trousers in all shades of brown.

Dog walking is /tip/. I wear an old flannel shirt, old chinos and a beat up pair of new balance.

Angrymiddleagedjew I know you're lurking, are your pants from your latest post in DA prl andrews?

>>18484439
> Rota
Brother their RTW cotton comfort leg is 22cm front rise in size EU48 (US32) excluding the waistband height. Even in their MTO in the high-wast size chart it's 21.5cm.

It's like this with every Italian brand, Incotex, PT Torino etc.

>>18481576
>i own the Carmina horsebit loafers and they're excellent.
excellent yes. But a little faggy
> Bidenflation
Come on, be serious

>>18476768
>top half
Fantastic but small details to improve on are undo the belt and get collar stays.
>bottom half
Either pants or shoes should be a light color to harmonize with tie or shirt (white, yellow, or light blue; this outfit with a blue suede or yellow / green suede to match the tie would murder). Me personally, I'd wear belt undone and hem the pants 1-2 inches and tailor them to be slightly baggier than the jacket is to your chest and then wear a nice suede with brogues or loafers with light contrasting tassles. It's not a bad outfit and is just out there enough to be unfamiliar; you basically have a classical and idiosyncratic top and mix of on trend fit and classic on bottom. Keep those vibes consistent and you'll be fine

Are lapels on a waistcoat ever acceptable?

Anybody else cursed with needing a wide size shoe? None of the cool brands in the OP's pastebin make loafers that'll fit me

>>18486043
fuck off lardass

>>18486043
Allen Edmonds makes a good selection of wide and narrow sizes, just buy them on sale or clearance and never full price

What's the consensus on Sid Mashburn?
I was looking for alternatives to Brooks Brothers because they such now and came across them.

>>18486196
they suck now*

>>18486196
Shirts run a bit slim imo
That said some nice stuff

lawl /tip/ lurkers are as trad as /thinspo/ lurkers are sickly thin

>>18486434
rename this thread to "autists whose special interest is being uptight

>>18485806
they are a must have

Uhm yeah I’m thinking this is cool. My FIRST pair of linen shorts.

new casatlantic cut dropped, basically tanger but flat front and 24cm hem at the bottom lmao. not a fan desu, maybe for a sailor cosplay on holidays

*destroys the back of your heel*
Can't believe these things used to be standard every day wear. Yes I know about heel pad stickers, but it's ridiculous that I have to even do that

>>18486200
I'm curious, what makes you say that? I bought a polo from there a few days ago and I like it a lot. I did see a few things made in China and a lot of plastic blends. Sports Jackets, shirts, and some trousers were nice. Classic Americana cuts

>>18485806
They make him look like Kenny Ollerenshaw. If you have a jacket on top it should look good, but on its own like in the pic it has the same effect as a three-button.

>>18487968
sounds like you got the wrong size or bad shoes

>>18487968
Get better shoes retardo

What do I wear?

>>18488680
chinos + linen shirt and pack a fox umbrella

>>18487968
They need to time to break in, retard. New leather is stiff and hard. The more you wear it the softer and more pliable it becomes, almost molding to the shape of your foot after a while.

>>18488487
>>18488504
>>18489399
It's fine I returned those shitters yesterday and got faux leather slip-ons instead. No break in needed because the inside is actually human foot shaped and polyurethane is soft to begin with

>>18489404
lmao

So Berg & Berg are just out of stock of everything. Any idea how often they restock?

>>18490458
Just set restock notifications on the items in the sizes you want. There will be returns on what people bought when the 50% off sale started. I got my wool nelson raglan coat that way. I don't think they'll properly restock with newly sewn items until the next collection release.

I'll be moving to Germany (Stuttgart) from the U.S. this Winter and need a good overcoat to for the colder months, was thinking something like picrel. Feel like a chesterfield or polo coat is just too larpy. Do you guys have any other suggestions, or is this fine?

What are the rules with mixing and matching the fabrics of your shirts and pants? Can I wear both linen trousers and a linen shirt at the same time?

>>18490616
Looks solid but I would go for something more formal. Coats are in vogue and are one of few formal and classic garments that are normal, even casually.
Duffle coats are also very /tip/
>>18490946
Depends. Linen and linen is ok. Demin and demin however? Cord and cord?

>>18489404
>faux leather slip-ons
>polyurethane is soft to begin wit
Good for you. It was like casting pearls before swine anyway. Those shoes will now go to someone more deserving.

Most /tip/ slippers? I don't wear dirty shoes inside

>>18491009
>I need the GENUINE skin of a dead bovine on my feet to feel like I'm not a metaphysical loser!
Lmfao alright, you keep enjoying your little GYW Allen Edmonds buddy

>>18490946
What trousers are they? They look like jeans but I'm not sure.

Can one wear dark green cotton without looking like a park ranger?

>>18479765
good looking headphones with a mic don't really exist
you need a seperate standing microphone or one of those business headsets kinda like in call centres

>>18491323
if one wears a more formal shirt and not one resembling that of a park ranger, yes

>>18491032
>Tell me you've never worn real leather without telling me
Enjoy your plastic slop, peasant.

>>18491812>>18479765
>you need a seperate standing microphone or one of those business headsets kinda like in call centres
We got "Jabra Link" for this at work. It's a pretty neutral black so kinda what you're looking for. But they're on-ear instead of over-ear. And they're annoyingly turning silent&muted when you move your head to quickly lol

>>18490616
Google thinks your image comes from "The Andover Shop".

Is this a legit trad manufacturer or some shitty instagram brand?

>>18491863
>>Tell me you've never worn real leather without telling me
It's time to go back to r/MFA, lil niggerfaggot

>>18491879
>wears plastic slop
>calls others nigger

>>18491899
No amount of larping and coping with luxury goods will ever make you upper class, buddy. Sorry to break it to you.

>>18491005
Thanks. I was also considering a duffel coat, but I don't know if I'll look out of place? Would a 3/4 coat help me blend in better while still helping to keep warm, or do you think I should just get the duffel?
>>18491869
The Andover shop is a great menswear purveyor with a long history. They're always happy to answer any questions you have about items listed on their site if you call, very knowledgeable and helpful staff. I'm more of an O'Connell's guy, but The Andover Shop is a great American menswear store as well.

Even if you pay $200 ducking dollars for a shirt they still come with ducking mistakes in the sewing. Jesus Christ.

What do you guys do with these? I try to make a knot with new white thread (to make it longer), pull them on the inside close to where it came out & then make a knot on the inside such that it’s invisible from the outside.

>>18492523
where'd you buy it?

>>18492530
this one is from Proper Cloth. But honestly, this phenomenon is now common at every high end or mtm manufacturer. You gotta put 20 minutes of work into every shirt to have it perfect no matter how much you payed in the first place

>>18491902
>only upper class should wear quality goods
Literal fucking peasant nigger mindset. Also, real leather isn't a luxury you fucking retard. Imagine thinking people wear leather to look "upper class". You're an American, aren't you? Not even thirdies are this negrified.

>>18492540
damn, is it really this bad?

>>18492569
Idk what to tell you man. On one hand spending 20 min to make 2 stitches and 1 knot isn't "that bad" (a skilled tailor could probably do it in 1 min). On the other hand it is "that bad" that you can't even expect basics like that for 200 bucks

>>18492548
>getting this mad over someone's choice of shoes
>still using the term "peasant" even though he is a literal modern day peasant
Lmao delusional and effeminate faggot

Any europoors have experience with importing spier Mackay?
Can't find any other decent looking madras shirts

>>18493395
yes, to Germany. They don't import like many other brands do. You have to drive to your next tariff authority and pay for the import duties yourself

What's the fit like on LL Bean classic fit chinos? I always go with 36/32 but everything I order from them seems to be bigger than other places. I'm in the UK so I don't want to end up faffing around paying for return shipping and exchanges.

I'm having a ludicriously hard time finding a gun club check jacket in 38s (yes I know I'm a manlet) for less than like $1500. I did not realize this was such an uncommon pattern

>>18493828
Speaking of Spier & Mackay, ive definitely seen gun club checks from them before. And they have some quite affordable sportjackets, i got my last one (wool-cashmere) on sale for $300.
>>18493760
Why not try a UK brand like peter christian?

>>18492523
don't you know, thats sprezz

>>18493894
I don't think I've ever heard anyone talk about them, on here or r/NavyBlazer.

To revive this godforsaken dead thread: Roast my ocbd fit

>>18494817
Those dark buttons look bad and it looks like you have an hourglass figure

>>18494817
>black buttons
>black trousers
>untucked
>brown smart watch
>white sneakers
what are you? a waiter?

>>18494817
I seriously hope those are at least the Proper Cloth "brown horn" buttons and not the cat-eye (2 holes in the button) coconut shell, even though you should switch to the light colored milano or roma anyways

I have one that fits like yours and I always think I could've added +1cm in the yoke, if you feel your acromion from the back it probably sticks out past the shoulder seam

>>18494523
Not that anon, but that's because it's not really a great brand, certainly not a menswear brand, it's a newer brand which is pretty much for very old men. Remember to demand fit pics from anyone who recommends things you haven't heard of. I'm not sure why he is recommending it at all, the cuts are quite poor.

>>18494817
Get rid of those disgusting slim tapered pants you faggot. Wear proper chinos/slacks, not joggers looking abominations. Picrel is the slimmest you should go with chinos.

This manner of dress is Asian girl bait

>>18490946
where 2 cop pants like this

>>18494874
>untucked
Not that anon but my dad (I know nothing about clothes but he does) told me that tucking in the shirt is a bad idea and that it's too formal or something
Is he wrong? Planning for clothes to dress in the next semester at uni.

>>18496759
Where do you think you are?

>>18496841
The preppy thread... I want to dress preppy...

>>18496759
You guys need to stop making dogmatic rules about style decisions. Horn buttons + untucked is certainly a style that's really popular in the real world out there.

Horn buttons + untucked is one step less formal than mop buttons + tucked. Mop buttons + tucked itself is one step less formal than classic white business shirt. Which itself is one step less formal than business suit.

Has anyone tried benevento?

Seems to be another MTO option and looks pretty good at first glance. Any experiences?

Are these too sleek/formal to wear casually with chinos/jeans as everyday wear?

>>18497059
this is /tip/

is there any way to style a black nylon bomber jacket in a /tip/ way?

>>18497239
Dark jeans or khakis chinos
Brown beefrolls
Uni stripe ocbd
Khaki, navy, even green or red Harrington instead

>>18497059
Untucked shirts are not trad. That's a degenerate slob look. Dress shirts should always be tucked, especially if they have a rounded hem. Those cuts on the side exist specifically to help the shirt stay tucked in. Buttoned casual shirts that are meant to be left untucked have a straight hem.

>>18497312
This.
Though one minor exception exist in shorts and very casual settings.

>>18497180
I would say no

Who makes good socks for suits?

darntough has good socks for boots and hiking and walking a lot but at best you're getting a full black sock from them and at worst childish colours.
My question is who makes good quality dress socks.

European here, we don't have uniform, Ivy League or whatsoever.
But i love Rowing and Cricket Blaze, beside from Ralph Lauren.

Do you know how to get one, is it even possible, or you have to be from an US university to own one ?

>>18498431
meschaussettesrouges, take the super-durable.
https://meschaussettesrouges.com/en

>>18497312
>Buttoned casual shirts that are meant to be left untucked
but this **is** a casual shirt and not a dress shirt. You can tell by the horn buttons.

This "rounded hem" rule doesn't exist. You made that up.

>warm
>cloudy
>risk of rain
What to wear?

>>18498555
an umbrella

>>18498555
linen or madras
anything with rubber soles
>>18498563
pussy

Bought some made in USA Gant oxfords from their 240 mulberry line on sale. Quite a steal at half the price.

Anyone tried the "Friday Oxfords" brooks brothers makes? Alpha sized, made overseas, etc, but they look like a reasonable budget option

>>18498797
Yeah, I've got two of them. 6'1", 170 lbs and the size M is perfect. They're nice because I can wear them tucked or untucked and still look put together. I would however never wear them with a sport coat or suit, nor a tie because the collar points are a bit too short imo, and a tie would fill most of the collar making for no roll. I keep the O'Connell's OCBDs reserved for more formal outfits as the collar points are a perfect length for me.

If you don't have the money to invest in high quality OCBDs then the Friday shirts are perhaps the best budget option. Not too billowy for us thin folks, and good construction. If you're limited by budget, you could get away with wearing the Friday shirts with a sport coat and tie, most normies probably wouldn't think anything of it.

>>18499019
Coincidentally the exact same build. This is just what I needed, thanks. What's your experience with them shrinking?

Is there a place to discuss tip stuff that isn't constantly parroting the hate for plastic as it was some kind of prayer and doesn't seethe about skinny or slim pants every other post? I feel like half this thread is just virtue signaling or seething about stuff that hasn't been mainstream in half a decade like slim fit or polyester stuff. Literally the hate for plastic is embraced by every normie and I want a place that skips all that hysterical kvetching altogether

>>18499489
I'm sorry but that's just what prep is.

If you just want to look prep without actually being prep... maybe look into a historical costuming community? Or just buy Jpress and not talk about it at all online.

>>18499461
Happy to help. As with all of my dress shirts, I wash, hang dry, and then iron a day or two later. No shrinkage at all. Too afraid to put any of them in the dryer lol.

>>18463692 (OP)
I have a question.

What is the point of MTO/MTM if the "perfect fit" is supposed to be a little loose and relaxed anyway?

>>18500515
MTO/MTM doesn't mean skintight, are you retarded?

>>18500631
You're retarded. Repeat exactly what I said & think you made a point. Degenerate.

>>18500515
Because we all have our own unique proportions, while ready to wear clothes are built for mannequins with standardized proportions. We don't have the same shoulders, chest, arm length and torso length proportions. MTO/MTM takes your personal ratios into account.

And a little relaxed doesn't man baggy. They are supposed to be relaxed in a few places but still fit in others and align with your proportions. The most important being shoulders. Droopy shoulders might be in right now because zoomers like to "ironically" dress like hobos, but that's not a good look. Makes you look as if you're wearing someone else's shirt. The sleeves should also be the right length. Same goes for the shirt's length/hem. Where they should be relaxed is in places that are subject to a lot of movement, like the arms, chest and waist. There they should be slightly bigger than your body's proportions.

Same goes for pants. They should fit you in the waist, inseam, rise, with a proper break at the hems, but should be slightly loose in the hips, thighs and along the length of your legs, while still tracing the unique contours and measurements of your body.

Clothes should drape on you. It shouldn't look like they're skintight, nor like you're swimming in them. All of this is hard to find in store bought clothes,

>>18500515
Inseam, waist, chest width, shoulder width, sleeve length et c. are still important regardless of how loose the fit is

>>18477047
it's a cool image

>>18498797
>>18499019
>>18499461
>>18499843
Update on this saga that no one asked for, but leaving it for the archive I guess.
6'1, 175lbs, typically 40R, and the medium brooks brothers friday oxfords were too long on me and felt too billowy for my tastes. I'm going to just go all in and try their american ocbd in slim 15/34 and see if that works better for me.

>>18463692 (OP)
do you guys have like a shedule for taking care of leather things?

Like, am I supposed to have a quaterly reminder on my phone to apply product to belts, bags and shoes?

I want loafers exactly like picrel, but without the Paraboot branding on the side. Can you give me a good one in the same price range ($250)?

>>18502450
Those are boat shoes, not loafers.

I think there are none. Paraboot is the only manufacturer that makes this style without heels (like boat shoes) but with this loafer-styled sewing.

Very ironic this Zionist freak posing next to "Give peace a chance"

>>18494817
Addidas?

>>18502458
They had them in there loafers section, so I just assumed.
Anyways, thanks for your post.
In my opinion the branding ruins an otherwise perfect shoe, but maybe I'll still take this one.
Is the quality at least good?

>>18502458
Those are derbies, not boat shoes you oaf.
>>18502450
Those tags are easy to cut.

>>18502450
https://eu.velasca.com/products/barce-0747
Best I can do.

https://www.walkerslater.com/edward-trouser-sh-gry-dn?qty=1#147=76

grey wool trousers for this winter? I've been eyeing them for a while.

https://www.walkerslater.com/edward-trouser-lw-fwn-tw-dn I quite like these as well they have more of the classic donegal tweed colouring.

>>18479100
what shirts are these

>>18503098
NTA but pretty sure they're from Kamakura

>>18463692 (OP)
any idea on how to look stylish while also being resistant to cold?

I absolutely hate wearing these ugly utility Northface jackets like some tourist, while walking around Iceland.

How does the size of my Allen Edmonds look?

Width EEE feels perfect. However the length I'm not too sure about. I can fit a finger in the back, and there is slight heel slip when I walk. However I think going a size down would be too crammed.

>>18503445
From october to march I pretty much exclusively live in an ocbd and shetland sweater. Wear a heavier sweater or add a wool coat if necessary

>>18503469
lard ass

>>18503469
There is no heel slip when I lace them tighter, but then I'm slightly worried that there is no V shape at the laces while they're new. They should stretch over time to close that gap, I've read.

>>18503445
cord, wool, flannel lined chinos or just long johns under whatever
wool sweaters
wool scarves
coats

>>18503487
socks too dark
tailor seemingly interpreted the inseam in cm instead of inches

>>18503491
Socks were not picked to match. Just fitting the shoes. Pulling pants up to show shoes. Thanks for your contribution.

>>18503479
>>18503489
thank you guys

> get fat
> look terrible in literally everything
I hate myself

I hate fat "people" so much

Yay or nay to Alden’s LHS penny loafer in cordovan with a navy suit to a wedding in two weeks. Kinda a casual loafer. Not sure if it will work with a suit.

>>18502450
Just cut the tag off with a razor blade

>>18503626
I also have a pair of Alden’s 684 full strap loafers in black cordovan. They’re kind of worn but maybe that would be better?

https://www.aldenshop.com/collections/casual-loafers/products/986-leisure-handsewn-moccasin-penny-loafer-color-8-shell-cordovan?_pos=4&_fid=701c51107&_ss=c

https://www.aldenshop.com/collections/casual-loafers/products/6845-full-strap-slip-on-penny-loafer-black-shell-cordovan?_pos=6&_fid=4ee944aab&_ss=c

What are your thoughts on suspenders?

>>18503593
nice vans

>>18503674
The cultural association with mumford etc hippies isn't going anywhere, I wouldn't wear them with anything less formal than a two-piece and tie. If you're wanting to wear them for the lack of a belt rather than the presence of the suspenders themselves you really should just have your pants adjusted.

>>18502709
Try Cording's

>>18505369
the cording's trousers aren't really interesting me. idk why.

>>18463692 (OP)
Where do I find a dress like that. I feel like it's easy to find elaborate or gimmicky dresses. But this "default" dress. Are there still trad manufacturers that do this?

What's the correct fit for an OCBD?
I just got a couple from Gant (relaxed fit). They're more roomy than I'm used too but I think they work with dad jeans and Paraboot.

>>18505630
It's pretty subjective. A lot of people in this sphere like an oversized and billowy fit. I prefer something a bit more fitted without it being slim.

> move to a new town
> there’s fuckin nowhere to buy clothing, like literally nowhere
I can buy online but I really liked trying stuff in store.

>>18504714
I think suspenders pretty often look good on fatter guys assuming they don’t have a onions look

>bought more shoe trees
>cleaned & conditioned moccasins and loafers
>cleaned suede derbies & applied water resistant spray
>re-glued busted ass birkenstocks
Ah. I feel restored.
Now i just need to figure out how youre supposed to clean canvas sneakers.

I have a full wardrobe and shit and mostly dress this way for work, but cannot for the life of me consistently tell the difference offhand between oxford vs. broadcloth / poplin / whatever. I can sort of look closely and see an obvious difference, and have looked it up and stuff, but can somebody explain weave differences like I'm retarded?

Where do I find leather golf shoes that aren’t just some stupid-looking Chinese sneaker with spikes attached? Preferably with a saddle for style points

>>18507205
Footjoy

>>18506934
I just use warm water and dawn dish soap. They’re canvas so they’re not meant to last forever or be bright white forever.

>>18463692 (OP)
hot take of the day: You shouldn't put your oxford cloth in the dryer. Not for europoor reasons. But because the subtle hang dried wrinkles have a certain je ne sais quoi that wrinkles "only slightly ironing" do not achieve

r8, h8, db8 this random pic someone posted on /biz/

>>18507942
giving myself a (you) because I just realized that that's Daniel Penny, isn't it?
Anyhow I think the trousers and boots look quite nice, the coat to me is on the verge of being formal looking compared to the very casual boots and trousers, but more importantly it looks a bit too small. I'm just gonna ignore whatever it is he's doing with the scarf. Overall it looks pretty good, very good compared to what most people are wearing these days, and the most important part overall is that he is attractive and fit. Bonus points for reading instead of being on phone.

>>18507254
I’m being picky, but their styles just don’t appeal to me, and for the price of their customs I’d want more options and for them to not be made in China.

>>18507433
Agreed. Here, have a (you)

>>18507433
I'm confused- do you just hang dry your oxfords or do you iron them too?
I hate ironing mine because it takes forever and I'm bad at it.

>>18508086
For this particular method no ironing.
Get one of these bad boys: https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/mulig-drying-rack-indoor-outdoor-white-50228755/ like europeans do

best pant and jacket cuts for bulky /fit/izen manlets? ~185lb, 5'8", low bf. i've got mad short femurs and a large bunda. i picked up some med-high rise, wide leg trousers a while back and i think i'm onto something, but still learning how best to manage my proportions.

i'm planning on starting with a mtm from suit supply or proper cloth, but would appreciate some advice on general cuts that flatter a body like mine

>>18508230
I just put mine on a hangar and hang them from the clothesline outside

I got a vintage tweed jacket from the thrift store for FREE because it had some minor holes in it
yipee

>>18502458
They're beefroll penny loafers you idiot

what color belt should I wear with brown cords?

>>18508749
It should depend on your other leather items, not the color of your pants

>>18508749
Black and brown both work, but similar browns are harder to pull off
Matching the shoes matters most

>>18476768
Wear high black boots with this and let us know when you get stomped in Paris

where do I cop pocket squares that aren't $5 polyester shit or $200+ >luxury pieces of shit

What are some /tip/ rainproof clothes and boots?

>>18510006
The Bean boot is a meme, but it's the best & classic for a reason. Unless you're like, working in finance or law in the city, you really shouldn't need wear overshoes or anything. Beyond that, get a wax jacket (Barbour is classic) and/or a (well-fitting)(tan) trenchcoat, but only if you can wear it without looking like it's a costume.

>>18469625
All the "aran crafts" type brands are really just "aran-inspired." An authentic aran wool sweater is a handkit from the Aran Islands in Ireland made using wool sourced from the island that still has a large amount of lanolin left in it.
the thing is... these sweaters are huge. they are heavy. and they smell like sheep. these are functional clothes made specifically for fishermen going to sea.
i know this because i went to An Pucan on Innismore and tried on the legit sweaters. Btw they cost like $400 there.
These Aran Crafts type brands offer the same knit patterns, however, they will be made using "standard" wool (can be merino) and knit by a machine. You can get them for $40-$60 and they're honestly pretty good, however, they're not truly "Aran." If you want to go the next step up just get a handknitted wool sweater from Ireland. You don't want to be covered in sheep grease.