Thread 18466123

Are slim jeans allowed if you're attractive or are baggy jeans just the only thing you can currently wear?

>>18466123 (OP)
A tailored trouser looks sharp
However jeans are workwear; they are not meant to be tailored
Skinny jeans make no sense, i would like a millenial to explain their appeal

>>18466123 (OP)
The only men who should wear slim jeans are those who have actually slim legs. Not fatfuck normalfags with thick thighs. Those should stick to straight, relaxed, or regular fit (which is straight fit with a slight taper down the knees). As for slim guys, slim straight and Levis 511 style slim fit jeans with at least a 7 inch leg opening are the slimmest they should go. Fuck modern tapered and skinny jeans.

>>18466150
>i would like a millenial to explain their appeal
>hedi slimane
completely changed the meta of fashion at dior and set a generation wide trend of rejecting -> eventually evolving into outright ignoring the rules of men's fashion.
at first it started off as breaking the rules, it reached terminal status when it evolved into most millenials not even knowing the rules and why people wanted to break them in the first place and now we're recovering from it.
his silhouettes looked amazing and were a breath of fresh air.......
for one specific body type...
the problem with the skinny fit hedi trend was how widespread it got. hedi never intended for that. go read interviews he designed his shit for a hyper specific body type (his) because he felt like no one made clothes for guys built like him.
>reddit updoots
the online millenial denim community started off on forums, where people actually discussed things. most people were into classic repro fits but there were threads for dior and apc and such.
eventually reddit was created, then reddit's denim board was created.
updoot culture made denim all about sharing the sickest fade pics and getting the most updoots for a while. extremely skinny jeans fade the fastest and sharpest. its really that simple honestly. people were more focused on how their jeans looked in a picture laying on the floor, not on their body.

>>18466150
the scene subculture and also the period of time where skateboarding culture leaned into skinny everything were contributing factors to how far it diffused out and away from a niche fashion runway show and internet nerds online. in the earlier days of skinny fit if you saw a guy who wasn't a fashion nerd wearing it that was probably why.
>skateboarding
zoomers probably don't understand this but skateboarding shit was so huge for a while that the default way most guys dressed if they weren't part of some other subculture was in skateboard brand shit. often times even core brands. white guys liked the clothes for the quality and the fact they weren't all nig-fit. baggy wasn't the same back then as it is now. baggy back then meant 2005 tall tee nig shit.

>>18466123 (OP)
>jeans are the only kind of pants you can wear

>>18466352
>if you want to get laid

>>18466354
That's why we have dogs

>>18466385
What are you doing to dogs?

>>18466157
>>18466162
Woah ty ;p
I agree that hedi slimane designed clothes primarily for twinky boys
And i was born in 2000 and remember everyone dressing like skaters lol i did it too
But i still dont understand how that translates to men in their 30’s, you would think they’d outgrow the fashion of their youth

>>18466156
>As for slim guys, slim straight and Levis 511
im a slim guy and the 511 feels roomy. if i try a classic fit or relaxed i look and feel like mc hammer no joke. i will never understand why fat guy wears slim fit though

>>18466601
>im a slim guy and the 511 feels roomy.
Men's pants should be a little roomy. Makes it easy to move around in them, or else you'll need to mix stretchy plastic in the fabric to make them more comfortable. And when the jeans are slightly loose (not baggy), the folds and stacking add character to the pants, instead of just tightly hugging to the legs and making you look like an action figure.

>i will never understand why fat guy wears slim fit though
They probably think slim fit will make them look slim and not as fat, when in reality it ends up making them look like they have thick childbearing hips and thighs. A big ass, thick thighs and narrow calves and ankles are a feminine look. Men look better when their legs look uniformly thick throughout, like tree trunks. So fat guys should wear relaxed or loose fit.

It depends on the body, if your body is beautiful, it will look beautiful

>>18466157
>>18466162
Hello you retarded schizo. No one cares. Get a job.

>>18466639
You offering?

>>18466639
is your job seething about me on 4chan every day? thats sad glowie.

>>18466463
i think they're just stuck in their ways. i saw a 40yo looking chubby wide hipped söyboy wearing reddit wings and skinny selvedge jeans at the grocery store a while ago, its been a while but they're still out there.

>>18466123 (OP)
Those aren't slim, he just lifts.

skinny jeans have never looked good.

>>18466463
Guys in their 30s tend to be focused on other priorities like career or family. While their youth slips away, they keep dressing the same because their attention is elsewhere. They just keep doing "what works," until it doesn't.

>>18466661
When will you get a job my schizo son? This is so sad. You don’t have much potential as you are extremely low IQ and physically weak, but you could do menial labor. Now go get me my coffee son.

>>18466986
do you actually think you're smarter than me and would win in a fight?
thats hilarious.

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>>18466991
I could permanently cripple you with a single strike you malnourished schizophrenic manlet freak. Make a new denim thread so I can rape you 500 more times.

Stop dressing like a girl

>>18466971
skinny jeans are pretty good assuming your not a fat fuck.

Why people refuse to just buy straight leg jeans is beyond me

>>18468482
Because they're fags. For millennials "fitting" jeans are skin tight jeans. If it doesn't hug their legs and ass like women's leggings or skinny jeans, it's too baggy. Millennials are mentally ill.

>>18468478
No man ever looked good in skinny jeans, not even skinny men. Skinny legs on a man are a feminine and juvenile trait. They make you look like a 12 year old girl. You're supposed wear pants in a way to not highlight that deficiency, and make your legs look healthy and sufficiently full. Even as a non-fatty, picrel is the slimmest you should go.

>>18466123 (OP)
I personally have mine relegated to whenever I play the electric guitar live.
Can't pull the look off otherwise.

>>18468506
You don't sound insecure at all.

>>18468500
jeans are supposed to hug your ass retard.
pic related, the movie that led to jeans go from niche workwear to the most popular piece of men's clothing still to this day.

>>18468811
What that boy in the middle wearing?

>>18468500
jeans are supposed to hug your ass retard.
pic related, the movie that led to jeans going from niche workwear to the most popular piece of men's clothing still to this day.

>>18468813
looks like jeans in a khaki dye. chinos weren't that slim back then but jeans were.

>>18466123 (OP)
anything is allowed if you're attractive. that's where trends come from

>>18468816
Shut up schizo.

>>18468816
What's that boy on the far right wearing?

>>18468816
And yet none of them are wearing gay ass women's skinny jeans, because it's faggy. Men need plenty of room in their pants to move around freely while doing masculine things like work or kicking some asses. Imaging getting in a fight while wearing gay little skinny jeans that crush your balls, restrict circulation to your legs and compress nerves.

>>18468839
I bet he has twice as much testosterone flowing through his veins at his age than skinny jeans wearing millennial soibois.

>>18466639
i do care, it was very interesting to read you retarded fat fuck

>>18468816
Those were skinny in that time you fucking idiot. It was supposed to make them look as sexy rebels douchebags.

>dress like a character is fucking retarded

>>18466150
I'm a millennial and I never understood the appeal either. I always thought they looked ridiculous, especially on guys like me who aren't sticks (I was skinny at the time too, 5'10" and 135, I'm just not built narrow) and they were a pain in the ass to wear too, especially getting them on and off.

I guess the whole thing was a reaction to the giant JNCO type jeans that had been popular when we were in high school but it was a huge overreaction and lasted way too long.

You tell me

>>18468857
No it wasn’t small son.

>>18466123 (OP)
Those are relaxed tapered he just has huge legs.

>>18468871
Are you implying that people may have different body types that require different designs of clothing fits?

>>18466157
>>18466162
none of this shit applies to grown men with jobs and lives

>>18468868
SAAAAAAAAR

>>18468843
Wranglers were always advertised as slim

>>18468816
>>18468837
BTW on second look, those don't look all that tight on the ass. They look tight because of the way he is standing with his leg up and ass sticking out. The guy 2nd from the left, that's how his jeans would fit if he stood normally. Those are far from the way modern skinny jeans fit at the the ass.

>>18468874
He’s an unemployed manlet with schizophrenia and a crippled bowel. Honestly if you breathed on him he’d probably perish.

>>18468882
Western looks good slim.

>>18468876
How is that Indian?

>>18468876
My pasty white skin is apparent in the photo

>>18468882
go buy a pair of vintage jeans and try them on i can tell you they definitely were meant to sit tight on the ass and are tailored to emphasize it. wearing some rn. a lot of them taper for the waist although more rectangular shapes like are most common today also existed, they all have tall yokes, small wide set back pockets etc.
and if you go through historic photos it was both popular to wear them tight and correctly fitted, or upsized and slouchy.

>>18468888
western is slim for functional reasons. tighter fitting jeans don't slide around and cause abrasion on the saddle. i always lol when people say flare jeans aren't functional because disco happened and took them to ridiculous proportions. like niggers you've never ridden a horse before?

>>18468882
well technically i'm wrong. pre-war things tended to be slouchy and loose up top, after the war that style of jeans evolved into dungarees/carpenters and 'jeans' as we know it today spawned from a tighter more form fitted look influenced primarily by hollywood at the time.

>>18468935
Post nipple (it's brown). I'm a professional racist.

>>18468955
You’re really bad at this

>>18469083
Saar you cannot fool me by changing the color temperature blue. Now post your brown nipple.

>>18468950
Cossacks used huge pants for horse riding convenience, so I don't think that's the reason

>>18468950
>>18469152

>>18469152
>>18469153

>>18469152
They didn't have fuckin cacti did they mate

>>18469164
Going over barbed wire fences frequently is actually a good reason for tighter pants that wont snag and tear.

>>18469166
So, criminal?

>>18469164
This is the only argument against wide pants I have heard that actually makes sense.
I thank you, sir.

>>18469167
Ma'am they're called cowboy cut

>>18469171
Yes siree, indeedy

>>18469171
Manufacturers just made up a term to save money on fabric

>>18469171
Real cowboys wore leather

The reason why people wore skinny jeans is because scene and emo kids were marketed (keyword) as the IT type of person. Every girl who claimed to like emo boys was sold that idea from media. Many of those girls were young, naive, teenage girls. Every guy basically said “Well, I guess I should dress that way to get teen puss.” Every guy who donned the skinny jeans was basically trying to weasel and bullshit their way into getting laid. Even the skaters. The hipsters basically never grew up and kept that mentality. Such fashion was essentially one big LARP instead of naturally being Chad.

>>18466150
>i would like a millenial to explain their appeal

being a skinny lanky scene kid was in for a bit

>>18469199
But the trend carried on past scene well into hipster, cuckold, hypebeast, basedboy, post punk, Antifa crust, etc.

>>18469205
I think millennials were just lazy pussies. They kept wearing skinny jeans because they couldn't be fucked to wear anything else and were too afraid to try something new, or go back to wearing regular jeans because they were "dad jeans" and millennials hate their dads, like a bunch of women with daddy issues.
That Shia Leboof guy also made them really popular during the mid 2010's with his antifa faggot look, which skyrocketed their popularity.
And manufactures themselves kept pushing skinny jeans with like 15-20% plastic and 2-5% spandex in them because they were cheaper to manufacture, since the used less fabric and even less cotton.
It finally took zoomers growing up and asserting their will to put an end to this skinny jeans scourge and bring back more classic fits.

>>18469152
cossacks weren't wrangling calves for sport and shit either. either approach will accomplish the same thing, if you make the pants really tight or really loose you're going to get less abrasion on the saddle.

>>18469218
>because they were cheaper to manufacture, since the used less fabric and even less cotton.
pumping the spandex into them also makes the same cut sellable to a wider range of people because more people who shouldn't squeeze into them can. that's why you see it still in baggy fits.

>>18469169
that's why wide pants fell out of favor for hiking and climbing -- snagging and tearing on things. if i'm bushwhacking through sticker bushes or gnarly old growth give me some elastine skin tight shit any day of the week.
but its kind of an over-blown market reaction. most people hike on manicured trails and i prefer the old school zero elastine wide fitting type of hiking pants for that.
which is why i keep both kinds in my closet for different outings.

>>18469181
>>18469180
you understand those pics are from not long after breeches fell out of favor for pants and that was the only kind of fit of denim you could get. denim jeans marketed to cowboys were less min/maxed for horse riding and more as general work pants with optimizations for riding on a horse. you may be riding a horse but you're probably riding it to go do something like prospect for gold. as the decades went on and the gold rush died off things got more optimized strictly for horse riding more like breeches and the likes of the past were, because everything goes full circle.

>>18469221
>that's why you see it still in baggy fits.
God I hate that so much it's unreal. Non-slim/skinny fitting looser jeans having spandex in them is the stupidest thing. But manufacturers peddle them anyway because they're cutting costs by using less cotton and repurposing the same fabric for everything from skinny jeans to baggy jeans.

>>18469222
Those are not denim
>>18469180
Fur, obviously
>>18469181
Possibly leather, however I could be wrong as I don't like the history of cowboy. It doesn't interest me

>>18469222
Horse riding jeans also had a much higher waist and crotch. Not only did this make the legs look longer like rockstar jeans, they also didn’t crush your balls. 70’s pants had a similar fit. I wish companies made fits like this.

>>18466150
> would like a millenial to explain their appeal
there weren’t a ton of options then, the whole “skinny jeans” era is what sprung the prevalence of at least somewhat fitted jeans. Not that they didn’t exist at all, but they weren’t as commonly anvailable and widely known. Basically everyone just wore sloppy looking jeans if they weren’t the ultra baggy things, but that’s what was expected anyway. Speaking of the general male population here, not the rich kids.
So some people started getting nicer jeans for their regular wardrobe. Not super skinny, just more fitted. It’s still jeans and a T-shirt, maybe a buttton-up or polo, but just having somewhat of a fit on the jeans makes the whole thing look a lot nicer.
It really became something the girls noticed. Even if they weren’t sure what it was, that guy just looked better dressed. Most of that was just having a decent pair of jeans. So it became an easy dating advantage to just get some decent jeans.
Like any trend, it gets taken to the extreme. Some guys start wearing ultra-skinny jeans. It’s also a flex about how skinny you are for the girls who are into that.
It wasn’t all that common to wear what people (accurately) refer to as skinny jeans today. Boomers called basically any jeans that were more fitted than Wranglers “skinny jeans”, so the term took off and is remembered more than skinny jeans per se really were a thing
I’d argue flexing being lean and having money to get expensive jeans never really went out of style, it’s just not emo or whatever

>>18469218
>>18468522

still undefeated

>>18469590
Who is that manlet?

>>18469593
He's this guy

>>18466123 (OP)
I bought slim jeans today, lets hope my nice, round ass doesn't make them look bad on me (I'm skinny otherwise)

>>18469229
>Those are not denim
wrong. it's a pic from the 1880's they're most likely denim. could also be generic twill fabric or duck canvas. wool trousers and others were long fallen out of favor with cowboys by then.
>Fur, obviously
with denim, twill or duck pants underneath, obviously.
>Possibly leather, however I could be wrong
no you can just tell from the drape its probably a twill weave of some sort aka probably denim.

>>18469237
> Not only did this make the legs look longer like rockstar jeans, they also didn’t crush your balls. 70’s pants had a similar fit. I wish companies made fits like this.
bro you can literally buy those exact jeans deadstock for like $30-150 on ebay and vintage second hand places. i got a pair of pic related that looked like they had never been worn and washed once (yay no shrinkage to worry about, they're unsanforized) for PESOS on ebay.
>70’s
not just the 70's, that fit was made from the 60s all through the 80's.
you know how denim quality fell off a cliff in the 70s then again in the 2000s? look for late 60s/early 70's pairs and they will be selvedge, unsanforized etc. levi's big E tier quality but cheap because 0 hype & niche fit.
don't be fooled by the double felled outseams. a lot of them are selvedge but they just don't have a visible selvedge id anywhere. the stronger double felled outseam was favored in western jeans at the time.
here's a blog post on some 70s western flare type fits worth looking for from back then, its very incomplete but a decent starting point:
https://doluke.wordpress.com/2018/09/23/dead-stock-vintage-flare-denim-pants/
be aware some models got polyester'd or sanforized in the 70s read tags.

>>18469227
the 1% spandex in baggy fits actually doesn't really cut down on raw material costs. its done to cut down on costs designing and tailoring the jeans, letting mediocre fits 'work good enough' on a wider range of bodies. easier to pattern with less tailoring experience required, more sales.

>>18468837
I wear Levi 505s that are 100 percent cotton, they are a little bit tight in the upper region but are super comfortable and look good. Levis are the only jeans that fit just right for me