Thread 18482733

Skincare/hygiene General #19
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Post your routine, holy grails and strategies to shave balls. Share experience about skincare products and your skin issues

Some of the links might be outdated, post questions if you have any

FAQ:
Basic routine, skincare guide, and products tips: http://pastebin.com/5QEQgMUp
How to pop pimples, remove blackheads and whiteheads: http://pastebin.com/MufDiSfy
Why you shouldn't use ordinary soap on your face: http://pastebin.com/Ujf2x9M6
How to improve your skin tone through diet: http://pastebin.com/epLqSbEQ
Studies on how diary and sugars create acne: http://pastebin.com/0H5gag01
Dark circles around the eyes: http://pastebin.com/t796eKvr
Soap, pH, irritants and synthetic detergents: http://pastebin.com/51yse1NE
Post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation (PIH): http://pastebin.com/GXYPdwMf

Wiki:
Skin care basics: http://tuxbell.com/index.php?title=Grooming#Skin-care_Basics
Acne treatment: http://tuxbell.com/index.php?title=Grooming#Acne_Treatment

Skinacea Links:
Retinoids:
http://www.skinacea.com/retinoids/retinoids.html
Sunscreen:
http://www.skinacea.com/sunscreen/sunscreen.html
Ridding dark eye circles:
http://www.skinacea.com/how-to/get-rid-of-dark-circles.html

Skinceutical's patent for their C E Ferulic serum expired in March this year, lol

https://www.businessinsider.com/skinceuticals-c-e-ferulic-patent-expired-dupes-vitamin-c-skincare-2025-5?IR=T

my skin barrier is nuked from azelaic acid, tretinoin and careless use of acids

bought the cerave moisturizer oil but it cases acne in some people. anyone has experience with it? (can someone post that /fa/ chart? there's a cerave in there i dont remember which). also got the cerave oil cleanser which isnt an oil cleanser... and also got avène's cicalfate

my skin barrier is nuked from azelaic acid, tretinoin and careless use of acids

bought the cerave moisturizer cream but it cases acne in some people. anyone have experience with it? (can someone post that /fa/ chart? there's a cerave in there i dont remember which). also got the cerave oil cleanser which isn't an oil cleanser... and also got avène's cicalfate

>>18482733 (OP)
cleanser, sunscreen + moisturizer, and tretinoin
i also take isotretinoin
i want to apply hydroquinone for dark spots on my body (not face), is it a good idea? i tried kojic acid but it did nothing

What Cleanser and Moisturizer should I use when I apply Tretinoin daily? Not sure if I should use Cerave or LRP.

>>18482733 (OP)
i hate when i get ingrown hairs after shaving or trimming too close
does isotretinoin help with that? i also moisturize my skin daily, but only in the morning

>>18482733 (OP)
30 year old boomer here. You don't need products or a skincare routine to have nice skin. Your ancestors all had perfect skin despite never bathing and never paying attention to their skin.

All you need to do is the following:

>Eat a clean whole foods diet that contains plenty of proteins and animal fats.
>Dairy is a problem for some people and not others. For me it's cow fat specifically, so I avoid cream and milk, but yogurt and butter gives me no issues. Pay attention to how food affects your break outs.
>Get regular cardiovascular exercise. Doesn't have to be excessive or high effort.
>Get regular sun. Obviously don't burn your face off, but the sun is good for you and will help regulate your hormones.
>Try to reduce stress.
>Stop gooning. Cortisol spikes = acne.

Don't let the Jewish skincare industry convince you that putting a bunch of carcinogenic slop on your face is the only way to happiness. It's not. It will only make you dependent on them, just like with medications for chronic illnesses in general. You want to treat the root of the problem, not the symptoms, and the root of the problem goes way beyond the surface of your skin.

>>18482733 (OP) (OP)
30 year old boomer here. You don't need products or a skincare routine to have nice skin. Your ancestors all had perfect skin despite never bathing and never paying attention to their skin.

All you need to do is the following:

>Eat a clean whole foods diet that contains plenty of proteins and animal fats.
>Dairy is a problem for some people and not others. For me it's cow fat specifically, so I avoid cream and milk, but yogurt and butter gives me no issues. Pay attention to how food affects your break outs.
>Get regular cardiovascular exercise. Doesn't have to be excessive or high intensity.
>Get regular sun. Obviously don't burn your face off, but the sun is good for you and will help regulate your hormones.
>Try to reduce stress.
>Stop gooning. Cortisol spikes = acne.
>Stop washing your face excessively. Once a day with cold water will suffice. Your oil production will regulate itself if you just stop stripping it off 4 times a day. Every time you wash with soap and/or hot water you strip your face of its protective layer and make it easy for bacteria to enter, which causes more acne and dry skin.

Don't let the Jewish skincare industry convince you that putting a bunch of carcinogenic slop on your face is the only way to happiness. It's not. It will only make you dependent on them, just like with medications for chronic illnesses in general. You want to treat the root of the problem, not the symptoms, and the root of the problem goes way beyond the surface of your skin.

Taking dutasteride 0.5mg once daily has done more to clear up my skin than years of slathering my face with expensive creams and serums.

Taking spiro restored my hair and fixed my acne and raised my test.

>>18483350
Don't see your advice helping someone literally above you >>18483342
>>18483342
>does isotretinoin help with that?
Don't think so. If longer hair is a no go try urea cream, azelaic acid or (iirc) salicylic acid product

>>18483642
>Don't see your advice helping someone literally above you >>18483342
Maybe not directly, but ingrown hairs get inflamed and infected due to having a weak immune system and a lacking protective layer on your skin from excessive washing.

>>18483652
Damn, so nigga needs to wash less and he good?

are there magical products for razor burn? i've got a 0.5x0.3 cm large patch on my skin that kind of flares up and becomes red if I shave or if it becomes too dry

>>18483832
Yeah, basically. When you're constantly irritating your skin and stripping it of its natural oils it's going to make you more susceptible to infection. Same deal if your immune system is weak and can't fight off things like staph infections, which most people do on a regular basis.

The alternative is that it's a genetic condition and it's completely out of his control. In which case the only solution is to go to the store and spend money on some magical solution.

Which do you think is more likely though?

>>18483905
Well, I thought shaving (that close) was invented by humans fairly recently (which is unnatural for the skin) and that it may cause certain side effects. And that some people want to offset them with something

>>18483998
Yet most men don't have this problem. Don't you wonder why?

Good shaving creams? People in other generals are retarded about skincare.

Still have yet to try a peptide serum, red light mask, and at-home microneedling. I have a Derminator 2 that works very well so just need to get the particulars right like safety set-up and what lengths and speed work best for each part of the face, etc.

Probably will only needle once a month. Anything more is excessive. Has anyone here tried microneedling with success?

For me, putting on some BP cleanser for a few min after shaving helped a lot with ingrown hairs.

>>18484249
>bp cleanser
what's that?

>>18484391
benzoyl peroxide
I use the Cerave 4% stuff. I rub it onto damp skin, let it sit for a few min, then wash it off. Be careful though because if it's not washed off thoroughly, it will bleach-stain your towels

>>18484079
I don't have this problem if I put hot towel on my face for 5 minutes before shaving so idk

I fucking hate my skin texture. I'm 25/m but somehow look 10 years older even though I never smoke, I never drink and I wear spf50+ anytime I step outside.
Tretinoin has helped me a lot with acne but I have yet to see any of the promised anti aging benefits
What's worse is that tret made my eye area more sensitive and dry, which looks worse now than it did before, so now I have to use tret very sparingly and put vaesline on my eye area.
I have had a consistent skin care routine for years using all types of active ingredients, and they have def helped me fight acne and oiliness but I fail to see any improvement on the actual skin texture.
I workout, drink lots of water, eat 3 eggs everyday and have been taking collagen supplements recently. My diet is by no means perfect but def better than that of the average Joe.
My body is pale but my face has this weird brownish taint with some red spots on my cheeks for some reason.
My messed up sleep schedule is definitely part of the blame which I'm gonna fix but I'm wondering what else I need to do?
I just wanna look young bro

>>18482733 (OP)
I paid almost $30 for a new moisturizer and all it did was break me out. I think I'll go back to using Curel
>>18482907
Figuring out whether or not a product will cause acne for you is a matter of trial and error. I can't use cerave due to allergies but I know a lot of people rave about the stuff in the tub.
A lot of people rave about avene cicalfate for moisture barrier repair as well. It wasn't for me but it has zinc in it which can be really good. Same stuff that is in diaper rash cream. I've tried incorporating avene products back into my routine because I loved extreme emulsion but their other stuff seems to drive my skin ballistic.
>>18484189
>at-home microneedling
Please don't. Dermarollers are not equivalent to what professionals use. It can cause infections and scarring. I now a lot of people rave about professional microneedling but I don't have the money for that.
>>18484487
>so now I have to use tret very sparingly and put vaesline on my eye area
In my experience aquaphor works better than vaseline for this reason.

My skin texture is horrible from acne caused by dermatillomania from the past. I don't break out unless I relapse and touch my face again. Current regiment is cetaphil non-foaming cleanser, la roche posay cicaplast b5+ balm cream & anthelios sunscreen. My skin is retardedly dry but I'm considering getting tretinoin to help with reducing the acne scar texture, is there something I could do to have my skin be NOT totally fucked?

Would you fuck me? I’d fuck me.

For me it's illiyoon ato ceramide moisturizer
It's only $20 or less
Been using it for 3 years now

>71
What's your excuse

my moisturizer of choice for the last 2 months

feels solid, anyone have experience with it?
dipping my toes into koreashit and it's cheap

>>18484748
Guess Dianetics does work huh.

>>18482733 (OP)
Have you heard of aleo vera gel, face oil and face massage stones?
My skin has never looked better.

What moisturizer can I use for my penis?

...and folliculitis on my scalp is back. Once again, I'm going to look like a disgusting piece of shit for about 2 weeks.

I user my cleanser after scrubbing my face with water and now i have chemical burns.

>dollar tree salicylic acid cleanser
>dollar tree niacinimide serum
>dollar tree moisturizer
Bros am I doing this right

are shampoo bars a meme or are there genuinely good ones out there

>>18484659
only if you are older than me, a top, and like to cuddle

>>18482733 (OP)
chart needs to be updated to include healthy diet + avoiding sun + drinking a sufficient amount of water everyday

I'm 36 years old with no wrinkles, no redness, no dark spots, smooth skin

My entire skincare routine consist of washing my face with water once a day in the lukewarm shower.

I attribute my good skin to, eating a home cooked non-processed food diet, exercise, lack of stress, 7-8 hours sleep, avoiding the sun because I barely go outside and leave my curtains closed and also living in a rural area with very low air pollution

Thoughts on me running this copper peptide shit in the morning and then 1% retinol cream at night?

>>18484748
I dont even think thats hair plugs thats literally a wig

>>18485410
lanolin is the only think that touches my penis

>>18484189
I was really thinking about it just because I have 1 single acne scar on my face and I desperately want to get rid of it. The shit just was not cheap enough for me. Like amazon wanted 100 bucks for something which just amounts to some needles tied together. I couldn't justify it

my under eye area is the one area on my face showing signs of aging. I have no crows feet or forehead wrinkles or whatever. Its just the bags under my eyes, dark and puffy. I am already using retinol and doing pretty much all the lifestyle shit you can recommend. Any other products worth considering or is surgery or learn to live with them

plz respond

no

>medicube age-r booster pro
>AGER
dafuq kind of name is that? they couldn't have named it like "antiage-r" or something instead?

Is salycilic acid a trap? It seems to give me pimples most times I use it.

>>18482907
as other anon said skincare is trial and error. there is a small chance that your skin needs adaptation period for a new product though.. some people here broke out from certain products when they introduced it but "small purge" was all it was
>>18483124
>is it a good idea
id consult with derm first
>>18483256
>What Cleanser and Moisturizer should I use when I apply Tretinoin daily?
ones that fit your skin type. for moisturizer in pm you can get something heavier
>Not sure if I should use Cerave or LRP.
company does not matter
>>18483342
shaving after shower was a game changer for me
>>18483844
maybe you are irritating a patch of skin with eczema or sth, try going to derm maybe or post a pic so someone else can help
>>18484104
aveeno fragrance free was posted last thread i think but i would not bother much about quality as it stays on your skin for 5 minutes or whatever and then you wash it off. unless you have some bad experience or specific concerns
>>18484487
my eneven skin texture (little atrophic scars from acne in teenage yers) has been getting better little by little for the past 2 years ive been using retinoids. i think retinoids and vit c serum worked best for me in terms of that. the ordinary 30% chemical peel probably contributes to that too. i notice improvement only every 3-6 months and it is not much but its steady improvement over long term i guess
>brownish taint
no idea sorry. cortizol causes some people to be more "swollen" above their neck but not sure if it can attribute to skin color. consider going to derm
>My messed up sleep schedule is definitely part of the blame which I'm gonna fix but I'm wondering what else I need to do?
maybe post a pic what your skin texture look like, but an opinion from a derm or two would be better

>>18484500
>I paid almost $30 for a new moisturizer and all it did was break me out. I think I'll go back to using Curel
many such cases, happens to all of us
>>18484644
>My skin is retardedly dry but I'm considering getting tretinoin
if its your first retinoid and you are going straight for tret id say maybe start with retinol or your skin will get even more dry and perhaps more fucked in the process
>acne scar texture
if its atrophic scars then anything stimulating collagen production will help (20%+ glycolic acid chemical peels, vitamin c serums but there are different kinds so DYOR, retinoids, copper peptides apparently works and obviously retinoids you mentioned and a few more i missed)
>is there something I could do to have my skin be NOT totally fucked?
lrp cicaplast is great but more as a occlusive, try adding a regular moisturizer (even something like cerave body lotion) before using cicaplast for better hydration
>>18484697
good price/volume for a kbeauty product
>>18484748
damn
>>18485058
never tried it but INCI looks very good. ive recently bought cicafarm revitalizing cream ampoule but havent tried it yet (also great volume and ingredients vs price)
>>18485307
been using aloe vera 99% gel erry day
>>18485410
something for babies perhaps, i would not go with something too oily though
>>18485695
post cleanser
>>18485743
you good but i would switch moisturizer to one that has niacinamide to skip the serum. i am a lazy minimalist when it comes to routine though

>>18485825
you can consult this with curlyhair recs from reddit. they have a list of products somewhere. see if they rec any shampoo bars
>>18486325
looks solid and cheap. short ingredients list too. if the reviews are good, go for it. ive been on the look to try copper peptides myself so i will check if its available in my area, thanks
>>18486396
id go to derm first or check out archives for your options. there was also a video about it on Doctorly youtube channel. basically dark pigment, thin skin (exposing blood vessels which appears dark from afar) and the way light works when you get bags (giving you a shade) are all different from each other. most recommendations you will get will be probably procedures though
>>18487145
i agree, looks counter intuitive. same thing with putting animals on vegan products
>>18487272
some people experience that with any product. this being an exfoliant, i would expect it happening even more. maybe patch test it somewhere else to see if you are allergic to it first

I had some red rashes on my hand but they were not itchy, they now turned brown.
Any reason and treatment for this?

>>18487279
Is vitamin c worth looking into if im already on azelaic acid and tret?

>>18487291
>they now turned brown
see a doc
>>18487517
depends what you are using azelaic acid for and what you want to use vitamin c for. you can use these two together iirc (preferably in am routine) but with tret in pm you might get too much irritation overall. alternating them might be sufficient but it is still a lot for a skin

>>18485410
Coconut oil, fractionated coconut oil, mct oil, cetaphil, cerave (might be a bit thicker than cetaphil, slow to absorb).You dont want to overload your dick cheese production from the extra oil.

>>18487272
It stripped whatever your skin had as protection there before, thus making it more susceptible to bacteria and irritation from the chemicals in your products to fuck shit up, you need to moisturize with the best cream that plays well with your now clean skin.I get irritation even from the basic mineral oil or petroleum based (lanolin, paraffin) and some other supposedly non-comedogenic ingredient after salicylic acid.

kinda feels annoying being hairy during the summer, especially in the balls and ass area. how do men usually remove hair from those areas? hair clippers/trimmers seem kinda scary to use on the balls. I guess it's ok for the ass area (?)

>>18485846
poast yourself

>>18487930
>hair clippers/trimmers seem kinda scary to use on the balls
I just use a disposable razor, years of doing it and I never cut myself.

>>18487946
do you use shaving gel or something?

>>18483454
testosterone is poison

How long do you guys normally wait in between applying product? I've read one anon say wait 30min after applying retinol before putting anything further on, so it got me wondering

Polyglutamic acid?

>>18488364
Retinol is the king of skin care. I would put on my retinol moisturizer before bed and nothing else. If you have other shit you want to work in then do it in the morning or something

How do you niggas feel about refrigerating serums? I have a that have almost no preservatives and I’m worried they’ll spoil before I’m done with them

>>18488482
*have a few

Once again I will try a skincare routine.

>white dove bar and water for cleaning.
Effortless and better then nothing.
I should probably also add a moisterizuer after, wich one should I get or start with?

>>18488670
I live in sweden btw.

>>18488670
Me I cleanse my face with nothing but water and then use a retinol moisturizer before bed. I’m 35 and get carded at bars and people think mid to low 20s

>>18488701
I have heard retinol can fuck up your skin during summer etc, is that true? Else dove bar + retinol moisturizer before bed sounds like a combo.

Cleanser and moisturizer at night, simple as.

>>18488670
E.l.f moisturizer is overall pretty good, but if you can't find, Cerave and Neutrogena have served me pretty well since I've got relatively sensitive skin.

>>18487948
nta but i just use my usual body wash on the balls and then shave the hair off gently
i don't moisturize though
and i definitely wouldn't touch the rest of my pubic area, not even with trimmers
trimming body hair gave me a lot of painful ingrown hair bumps and ugly pih spots in the pubic region before

>>18488731
It just makes it easier to get a burn. There are like no UV rays in Sweden but wear sunscreen if you’re gonna be outside from 10 to 4 or so

can your skin get "addicted" to bp wash?

>>18488364
15-20 minutes or until dry. but if its oil serum after moisturizer or centella serum after washing etc, i dont wait
>>18488385
heard about it recently and seems like its getting more traction, need to do some research on it
>>18488482
been doing that with l-ascorbic based vitamin c serum only. depends on serum/formula/actives really. some serums have airless package and dont care about temperature etc
tldr read the package
>>18488670
post skin type
>>18488731
nta but
>retinol can fuck up your skin during summer etc, is that true?
only if you dont wear sunscreen. everyone uses sunscreen to slow down photoaging though. no point in using retinol without sunscreen even if hypothetically you would not need to
>dove bar + retinol moisturizer before bed sounds like a combo
you must have not heard about 10 step korean skincare routine then. thats a headache and then some
>>18488847
never heard of that. what would be the symptoms of that?

>>18488997
>what would be the symptoms of that?
Miss a day and suddenly break out?

>>18489014
if that was really the case, nobody would use it, no? hypothetically speaking: if you break out after 24h, it means you have some kind of bacteria or fungus that regrows 24h after last usage. not sure if there is such a thing but if it exists, it likely means you are using the wrong treatment to begin with. though some people might jump to anti-jew conclusions when they get a whitehead the next day. probably due to drinking two gallons of whey protein the day before.

bp is also in epiduo which can be used every 2-3 days

I've been redness/flaking/flareup free from seborrheic dermatitis for over a month at this point. That's the longest time without a flareup I've gone in over 15 years. I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop, this can't last forever.

>>18489039
yeah, my skin is not great lately, idk why. I can't even say it's shaving related this time since I don't shave my forehead. I might try the 10% bp cleanser next time

>>18488997
>post skin type
Normal but dry or fat in the T zone I guess.
>korean 10 steps skincare routine
I know about those, but a simpler routine is easier to follow, and a easy routine you follow is better results then some autistic routine I would quiet quit in a week.

Goddamn no matter what I do I can't seem to fully stop whiteheads popping up in my nose-mouth-chin region. I'm already using a gel with adapalene and benzoyl peroxide. Using a moisturising cleanser in the morning and evening (the regular one dried my skin out too much) and use the anthelios sunscreen every day.

>>18489050
you could post your skin issues and routine if you want and someone might help
>>18489065
>korean 10 steps skincare routine
sorry it was just my irony. im sure parts of it are fine but as a whole it is retarded. too many things that just won't work past certain step. i also prefer minimalistic routine
>Normal but dry or fat in the T zone I guess.
cerave pm or maybe the neutrogena hydro boost fragrance free one. also, there are sunscreens that are moisturizers (like cerave am) if it fits your lifestyle

FREAKING OUT this morning because I used shampoo as my cleanser this morning in the shower on accident. Don't know wtf to do my face doesn't feel right

>>18489370
You could start by trying to not be insane and relax

>>18489284
You ever try a clay mask? Look up “Aztec secret” it’s 1 ingredient and I think fairly cheap. That shit will suck the oil out of your face. Then follow it with a good moisturizer

>>18489365
Moisturizers that are sunscreen sounds good, is there any that also have tretionol and I have found my 2 step routine.

I want to sculpt my eyebrows to make them look more straight and “hunter like” but I feel like there is a 75% chance I just look stupid if I do it

>>18485058
Got a face oil from that brand as a gift and it worked so good, I bought the expensive full size. It worked wonders in the winters here. I would definitely trust that particular brand's products. It was my first foray into Korean stuff too, and I was impressed.

>>18489370
my cousin's friend did this and he had to undergo 2 head transplants

>>18489365
>you could post your skin issues and routine if you want and someone might help
I shave my head, and I was getting a lot of folliculitis spots on my scalp, but also on other parts of my face that I shave. They'd show up and stay there for a couple weeks. I started doing the BP wash after shaving each day, and also at night before bed, and that has helped a lot. I still occasionally get red spots/whiteheads around my face though, in spots I don't shave (upper cheeks, nose, forehead). And the other day after I skipped the BP wash before bed, I got 3 red spots the next morning. Two have since gone away already, but one is persisting... I also get acne across my body, like upper back, upper chest, shoulders, etc... so idk what the problem is.

I want to start micro needling because I have a very unfortunate acne scar on my face and I also read if you use it on your scalp and combine with minoxidil you can really thinken your hair.

The problem is that Amazon doesn’t seem to sell a micro needling device that doesn’t look like a Chinese piece of shit. Anybody know of any good or trustworthy ones? I looked into derminator 2 but the website is not working for me and I’d rather just use Amazon

>>18489370
It's fucking over bro, don't look in the mirror you already broke out 5 mins ago by my calculations...

Gonna try to get ease off the BP for now. Let's see if something happens if I don't apply for one night.

>>18482733 (OP)
Is there anything I can do if the sides of my face have been chewed up by chronic lifelong acne?

When are we finally going to make the technology to stop TEWL?
>>18489835
How bad are we talking? Tretinoin is a good starting point.

>>18489835
Yes. Go to a doctor. A lot of the stuff that can help needs a prescription anyway. And after all that you can maybe consider microneedling.

>>18489880
not him but same problem
does microneedling actually help the skin change back to normal? I doubt it, there's scarring

>>18482733 (OP)
Test

>>18484748
I don't have millions of dollars and was not born with good faceg genetics and grew up in a worse world after him

worth buying just for my nose and chin? i feel pretty good about the rest of my face

>>18490133
Yes. Because it's MICRO needling. Causing MICROSCOPIC scarring which heals into new skin.

>>18490421
How should this be placed in a routine?

kate somerville is the real deal... the price is terrible but I've set up alerts on my cunt's version of ebay so I can buy them for cheap

kate somerville is the real deal... the price is terrible but I've set up alerts on my cunt's version of ebay so I can buy them for cheap

>been putting 99% aloe vera gel on my face and it stings
its that 1 fucking percent isnt it

>>18490617 (me)
lol
>Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract, Polysorbate 20, Carbomer, Potassium Hydroxide, Glycerin, Phenoxyethanol, Disodium EDTA, Betaine, Chlorphenesin, Portulaca Oleracea Extract, Butylene Glycol, Alcohol, Ocimum Basilicum (Basil) Leaf Extract, Origanum Vulgare Leaf Extract, Salvia Officinalis (Sage) Leaf Extract, Mentha Viridis (Spearmint) Extract, Melissa Officinalis Extract, Saccharomyces/Caragana Sinica Root Ferment Extract, Simmondsia Chinensis (Jojoba) Seed Extract, Hippophae Rhamnoides Extract, Juglans Regia (Walnut) Seed Extract, Persea Gratissima (Avocado) Fruit Extract, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract, Chamomilla Recutita (Matricaria) Leaf Extract, Urtica Dioica (Nettle) Extract, Sambucus Nigra Fruit Extract, Chrysanthemum Morifolium Flower Extract, Vitex Trifolia Fruit Extract, Thuja Occidentalis Leaf Extract, Cnidium Officinale Root Extract, Angelica Dahurica Root Extract, Asarum Sieboldi Root Extract, Morus Alba Root Extract, Eclipta Prostrata Extract, Perfume.

with .5% retinol is the goal to eventually use it daily or less than that?

>>18489850
>>18489880
Like my upper cheeks have large patches of pock mark scars

I went to this place in my local shopping center called "Changes Clinic" and they do botox and sell retinol and tretinoin. I made an appointment to disucss getting tretinoin and today I went in and met with the specialist and I told her I wanted tretinoin for under eye wrinkles. She told me that they don't give tretinoin for under eye wrinkles because "tretinoin is too strong and can damage the thin skin under the eyes" and she wanted to sell me a "medical grade retinol" in her words. I told her I already use retinol but she said the retinol they have is better than the OTC retinol. They also wanted me to buy this box with moisturiser and other shit in it. I said I wasn't interested and just left. Are they scammers?

>>18490718
I use 1% every day.

>>18490749
Under eyes are the worst fucking place to have problems you can’t do shit about it. She is right because the shit would likely just lead to eye irritation and make your under eyes look worse with you rubbing them and crushing blood vessels and shit.

It seems like the only solutions are temporary. Like cold compress and then hit it with witch hazel and then use a little makeup.

Or get surgery

Are there any products for bloated/swollen face?
I'm not fat, but I feel my face is swollen all the time and it's the part I sweat the most at in the summer, so it looks even worse. I know about the most important things being a good sleep schedule, hydration and avoiding eating too much slop. I also use min so it probably contributes to the problem.

Rate my routine, im pretty new to this.
First, i have the basics covered: hydratation, non processed food, no cigs/alcohol, no drugs, avoid stress, sleeping at least 7h, not going on the sun wo suncreen, avoid sun at all. My routine is:
>water based cleasening, dont use makeup so i didnt choose an oil one, when i feel like
>vitamin c serum with cafeine once day
>non comedogenic moisturizer twice day
>granactive retinoid 2-3 times per week

I think this specific serum is causing me acne so i might change it. My skin is oily, so maybe i should have a oil cleasening. Also i was learning about korean approach, and, you might think it is bullshit but i like their approach. So i want to try some products. My skin looks kinda red on some parts, i think i have rosacea, so if any rec.

I know retinol and vit c are the most important, but i have money to spend so i want to try more than that.

>>18490844
Sounds like a deeper health issue to me, bloated face usually means high cortisol from chronic stress or medication. Or maybe just due to high sodium diet making your body retain more water. Try getting in more potassium, magnesium, the stuff electrolyte made of aside from the sodium to rebalance if your salt intake is already low.

Just finished a 0.6% retinol bottle, should I move up to 1%? Anyone had a good experience with any retinol brands available in UK/Europe?

>>18491008
how does one lower cortisol? decreasing stress is kinda not an option

what body wash do you guys use

>30 y/o
>lucky throughout my life by not having acne
>only issue is oily skin+hair from my mother's side of the family
Routine right now is
>neutrogena hydroboost gel wash
>creave ultra-light moisturizing gel
>SPF 30 sunscreen that's re-applied as needed
>blotting paper as needed
>at night wash again with the hydroboost gel
>salicylic acid astringent
>0.5% retinol serum
>uriage cica repairing cream
>physical exfoliant with AHA/BHA product every week
r8h8apreci8
I have come to the realization that I am developing those hideous nasolabial folds from my father's side of the family. I know that there's nothing you can do about them other than filler or surgery, but is there any other product I can add to my routine to at least slow down the folds?
>inb4 no
Oh well.

>>18490844
>>18491008
allergies were making my face swell/puffy. claritin fixed it.
>>18491241
consistent good diet and exercise
no smoking or drinking
8hr of sleep at the same time every night
self-care time like reading, watching tv, walks, etc.

>>18491541
cerave hydrating cleanser bar, but the body wash version is good too, just different format.

>>18488997
what does centella serum do?
I current have
Cleanse > Moisturize > BHA cosrx stack.
Should I incorporate this into my routine?
I'm currently trying to fix blemishes on my face and I have these bumps that don't hurt on my nose that don't seem to go away even after years.

>>18490488
Any cleanser/soap is first in order, it preps the skin for actual product application

Hey all, I've got sensitive/oily skin and I'm currently trying to get rid of facial acne. At the moment I use Cetaphils oil control cleanser, paula's choice salycilic acid toner, and that oil control spf moisturizer. What should I change?

I've been using retinol for ages and it isn't doing shit for wrinkles. Will tretinoin be any better?

Tfw just got my first set of Shiseido
Cleanser, moisturizer, serum, sunscreen (and the eye cream)
Literally perfect products
I don’t wear cosmetics so it’s not like I’m spending money on concealer/foundation
Just perfect skin
It’s a solved game

I seriously cannot for the life of me figure out how to get rid of my fucking beard dandruff
I've tried sebhorric dermatitis ointments, beard oils, tree oil dandruff shampoo, beard balms, shaving it all off to clean the skin better, even washing my face multiple times a day believe it or not
And despite everything I still wake up every goddamn day to find more fuckugly disgusting huge flakes falling off my face and it makes me want to blow my fucking brains out
I'll do fucking anything at this point, man

>>18492303
I fucking forgot to mention exfoliating scrubs that are also doing jack shit

>>18492204
Too bad shiseido likes to change their product's formulas at random resulting in an inferior product, and will discontinue product lines without warning without any sort of replacement. I used to splurge on one nice moisturizer until above happened, what a disappointment.

>>18491651
Bumping! Should I add a peroxide maybe to help?

>>18491651
I found that whenever I used a product that claimed "oil control", they were actually the problem by drying me out, causing more oil production, leading to more acne. It could be one of those products are drying you out too much, especially since you are also using a SA toner. I'm no professional, but try a hydrating face wash or use a heavier hydrating lotion or cream, at least at night. You can also try a low dose benzoyl peroxide, but that can be quite drying too. Good luck anon.

Should I avoid the sun at all costs?

>>18493174
Nah. Despite what everyone says the sun is good for you. Just don’t let yourself get burned on your face. I wear a low spf on my face but never the rest of my body. I think the sun has health benefits science doesn’t even understand yet. But of course almost everyone is vit D deficient and fixing that alone can make you way more healthy. It shouldn’t even be called a vitamin, it’s a straight up hormone and affects your whole body.

Ancient wisdom since the Greek times said that being naked outside made men stronger. It absolutely increasss testosterone and has a profound affect on your mental state. Anecdotally I have seen time in the sun cure my anxiety and give me a way more Chad attitude about life. There is a reason “basement dweller” is both a whole phenotype and type of person personality wise as well. Go outside bro

>>18482733 (OP)
I've been using this alum for years as deodorant and it's been great so far, Can I use this type of alum as my aftershave?

I've switched to a new deodorant, some Mitchum stuff. It works well but leaves my armpits sticky. Like… as I try to shower the next time after applying it, my hand will literally stick to my armpit as though I had glue in there. The fuck Is going on?
Also, if haircare falls under this category, my hair is Asian IE super thick and super straight and I'm having difficulty getting leave-in conditioner down to my scalp because of it unless I keep my hair short. It's currently nearly mid-back but I wear it in a manbun/samurai bun. Any recs on a good leave-in?

>>18490844
>>18491241
see a doc mate
>>18490876
looks good
>My skin looks kinda red on some parts, i think i have rosacea, so if any rec.
thought i had rosacea 2 years ago and turned out it was not, i was recommended laser treatment by derm though. so if you want you can go for azelaic acid but id double check and/or go to derm to confirm
>So i want to try some products
>I know retinol and vit c are the most important, but i have money to spend so i want to try more than that.
just be sure to get what your skin needs. build solid fundamental routine (cleanser, spf, retinoid, maybe moisturizer) and experiment from there
>>18491050
i think the ordinary is recommended often but never tried. i went for prescription retinoids after my first retinol
>>18491541
treaclemoon lol
>>18491566
all good, but i was recommended spf50 when using retinoids. also i would switch exfoliant to a purely chemical one
>any other product I can add to my routine to at least slow down the folds?
whatever boosts collagen production (high % glycolic acid peels, vitamin c, maybe stronger retinoids if you can get any)
>>18491582
i had purito unscented centella serum, it was slightly hydrating but most importantly it helped with irritation (too much retinoids/actives etc). you can read more about its effects online, i think it even has some anti-aging properties but probably not much
>Cleanse > Moisturize > BHA cosrx stack.
wrong order, use bha before moisturizing. i wonder if it worked at all going through that moisturizer
>Should I incorporate this into my routine?
id go for retinol and add spf if you are leaving anywhere during the day (mandatory when using retinoids)

>>18491651
>>18492918
id go for retinol first and see how that works for you. i might rec retinoids too often in these threads but it is essential and fundamental ingredient of any skincare routine (if you can use and you tolerate it).
if you are still interested in benzoyl peroxide consider going to derm for epiduo. or start retinol, give it a few weeks, see how it goes and maybe then add BP in the morning. but yeah id take retinoids first over any active there is out there
>>18492122
probably but it depends on your age too, hydration and a few other things like healthy lifestyle
>>18492303
>dandruff
well if its caused by fungus there are a few actives that are worth trying to fight it off. that would be ketoconazole (nizoral for example), selenium sulfide, piroctone olamine or ciclopirox olamine.
i went through these for my hair. the last one worked best. derm told me to keep using it. i also learned that i shouldnt use shampoo too often, every day is too much. and that they shouldnt be too harsh.
>I'll do fucking anything at this point, man
you could also see a doc and see what he will say
>>18493174
nope
>>18493254
sure, but it stings
>>18493261
>leaves my armpits sticky
maybe try alum block like >>18493254
>Any recs on a good leave-in?
look for r/curly recs, there is a spreadsheet somewhere with curly's approved hair products and it might be a good starting point

>>18493275
>alum
k.
>>18493275
>r/curly recs
k.
Danke, Freunde.

Did any of you ever have strawberry skin? How did you get rid of it?

>>18493272
>i was recommended spf50 when using retinoids. also i would switch exfoliant to a purely chemical one
Thanks, will do
>whatever boosts collagen production (high % glycolic acid peels, vitamin c, maybe stronger retinoids if you can get any)
I have been using and buying the same retinol serum for nearly a year now so I guess it's time to graduate to something higher. I'll try out a vitamin C product too. Thanks anon.

I just heard about PDRN

Apparently it’s like an oil from salmon so almost literally snake oil. But I am curious nonetheless, does anyone think it’s legit?

>>18492303
Its past skincare product,gotta go to the doc, tell what you have done and suggest them to give you non steroid anti-fungal cream to kill it.I dont see coal/pine tar or sulphur ointment or cleanser mentioned, you can try that too but these 2 will smell like shit and due to face proximity, it can irritate your eyes and nose. I had part of seb derm (the fungi involved usually the same for psoriasis,seb derm and dandruff) cleared using mg217 psoriasis cream AND cover the part with saran wrap for 1 hour at least and best is the longest you can stand (4 hours for me), you want the location to be always wet-ish with the ointment if youre not using the saran wrap. Beware this will block your pores and get you pimples and even rashes and more irritation/dermatitis. And also coal tar or sulphur ointment will stain your clothing.You should also limit refined sugar while fixing this.

Is sodium lauryl sulfate that big of a deal in a cleanser?

anon who recommended toleriane by LPR, is there a similar moisturizer but cheaper? 40ml for the price is not that fantastic, albeit the product is great so still worth it

>AM:
>Lukewarm water
>Sunscreen

>PM:
>Cerave foaming cleanser
>Cosrx AHA 7 whitehead power liquid (But around every 3 or 4 days)
>Boderm Tazarene 0.1%
>Mixa Ceramide Protect
Anything else I can add to improve my routine? Been doing this current routine for around 5 months. But I have around 8 months of using retinoids.
My only real issue is the general redness around my alar crease or w/e that zone between your cheek and nose is called.

AM:
cerave foaming cleanser
biore sf 50 moisturizer

PM:
cerave foaming cleanser
cerave smoothing moisturizer OR cerave retinol (basically rotating between them every other day)

my skin is a lot better that way compared to not doing anything at all but it steel looks bumpy/oily and if i cant wash my face for a day or two it instantly breaks out again and it gets a lot worse in winter when i dont get that much UV light

any ideas what i could change/improve?

>>18494571
Persistent redness there is often related to high blood sugar I would recommend getting that checked out if you think that’s possible

legit first cleanser i bought made me break out after a week of using it
what's the normal time for an adaptation period to a product that I should keep trying it for

alright I switched up my shit a bit, got babby's first exfoliant (Ordinary glycolic acid 7%) and swapped Ordinary retinal 0.2% for Menarini tretinoin 0.1%
and I gotta say the tret is really fucking strong, I only got mild burning on my very first application of a retinoid and this stuff made the skin above my cheekbones sensitive and slightly peeling - how often should I continue reapplying?
first time was 2 days ago, skipped yesterday and applied today to non-problematic areas
I'm also avoiding exfoliation and tret on the same day until I get tolerant
26 with really nice oily skin

I’ve been using cerave acne wash, moisturizer, sunscreen, prescribed trentinoin, and changing my pillowcase everyday. I don’t get massive breakouts like I used to but I still get pimples and never have a clear face. Should I go cold turkey and see what happens? How many days would it take for my skin to no longer be dependent on the products?

Hello nonnies.

What can I do to calm inflammation?! :(

This newish inflammation is ruining my confidence. It started around the time I began using Naturium leave on BHA, so I’m cutting that out.

Other products I use are as follows:

1) La Roche Posay foaming cleansing oil
2) Naturium niacinamide cleansing geleé (soon switching to vit C version)
3) Corsx 96% snail mucin filtrate
3.5) Prescribed tretinoin cream (0.025%, 3x/wk)
4) Corsx all in one snail cream mixed with LPR double repair mattifying ceramide moisturizer

Starting ice rolling again tomorrow as cold calms inflammation and focusing on an anti-inflammatory diet as gut is off too. But what else can I do/use/buy?

I’ve already been tested extensively for lupus, IBDs, and the like. I do have mild Ehlers Danlos
Syndrome and eczema with atopic dermatitis if that’s relevant. On Dupixent for it.

A matcha and honey mask helped a little, and I sleep on a 22 momme silk pillow case.

Everything topical burns, even water. I’ve had it.

>>18495564
0.1% is very strong.
It's always recommended to start with 0.025% (btw it's way stronger than the Ordinary retinal 0.2% despite the lower percentage) as your first tube and then just progressively increase the percentage (0.025% -> 0.05% -> 0.1%) as your skin gets used to it and you're able to apply them every day or every other day without much discomfort besides peeling, that's the most optimal routine as far as I know.
>how often should I continue reapplying?
Depends on how your skin reacts. With 0.025% I applied it every 3 days for 3 weeks, then every other day on week 4 followed by 6 days a week on my 5th or 6th week. Since you're on 0.1% maybe do it once every 5 days or once a week and decide from there?
Also try doing the sandwich method, you apply moisturizer both before and after applying tret, it should help a bit.

I have dark eye bags and redder near the lids due to an autoimmune condition. Is there something I can do about that as a guy? I'm using moisturizer already.

>>18495728
It may sound a bit feminine but try using Corsx snail mucin eye patches. Works wonders for me

>>18495737
You do that in addition to moisturizer?

I was looking into concealer too. There's Stryx on Amazon that's basically made for men as a one and done because they correctly assumed we don't know the million steps involved.

Is that a good one or are there others worth checking out? I don't care if it's considered feminine anymore, my looks have taken a beating from this condition and I'm willing to go outside my comfort zone.

>>18495739
Yes, snail mucin filtrate or your serums first, then patches and let that sit while you do your body care. Afterward, remove patches and moisturize your face. I’ve found I haven’t needed an additional eye cream. But I do wear concealer.

>>18495739
I don’t know about stryx and I’m loyal to my 10 step skincare routine, but as long as it’s free from drying ingredients like alcohols I say try it as it’ll be better than nothing.

>>18495739
Sorry to keep tagging you, but I’ve done my research on Stryx concealer and it appears to have solid ingredients. As with any makeup, make sure you cleanse well after the day is done. I personally find concealer sticks to be a bit heavy and they can clog my pores, but if you are blending well, and light handed, you may not have that problem. My go to concealer is the classic Tarte shape tape applied with the wand and blended with a foundation brush. Ingredients to avoid with makeup include mineral oil and talc.

>>18495754
Apparently it has fragrance which I'm not particularly fond of. I'll have to do more research. I already use a sunscreen so I'd have to see how those would work together.

>>18495717
I know it's the strongest possible formulation, but I hoped I could graduate directly to .1% tret since I reacted well to retinol/retinal...
picrel is what it looks like, localized mostly to this area on both sides - it's a bit sensitive but absolutely nothing bad
relatively, my skin hasn't broken out this bad since puberty

>>18495849
do you moisturize afterwards?
>>18495716
if that doesn't go away in a few days there's always the option of just going to the derm

>>18495740
>snail mucin

It’s hilarious how close this is to “snake oil” ain’t no fucking way it works worth a shit. Anything that is not a chemical name can go fuck itself. Even though most of those are scams too there is no way the answer is that we need is to rub korean snail shit on our face

>>18482733 (OP)
> holy grails and strategies to shave balls
Hot shower and a safety or a regular razor. Shaving cream is good but not needed if you’re carefull, don’t rush and shave with short strokes.
Other good option is to use depilatory creams and powders for sensitive skin.
Trick to use them correctly is time and application. The limit is about 5-6 minutes before you have to wash it off, so what you can do is apply it first on a pubic area around the shaft, then on the parts of shaft you have hair on, and lastly on your balls. Last area to apply it should be front of the balls where your shaft lies on.
Wait 5 minutes or however the instruction tells you to and then thoroughly wash under lots of water but don’t rub it in, imagine clearing crumbs from your shirt or pants. After 2-3 minutes you should be clean.
You know gou fucked up if you have a burning sensation somewhere, if that happens you need to wait less next time, or don’t apply cream there entirely and just shave.
How should penis skincare look like? Like the 10 step for the face but without spf?

>>18495863
yeah, I always moisturize afterwards, these days I've been moisturizing the affected areas as much as I can, it seems to have gone down a bit this morning

>>18495919
It sounds kooky but snail mucin is very high in collagen and has anti inflammatory properties. I’ve seen improvement in my skin’s luster, bounce, and glowiness.

>>18496228
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7159309/

>>18493908
looks like it would be great for inflammation (acne) but i dont see any clinical trial for topical use. hopefully its not another miracle ingredient that is pushed in social media, while all positive effects people write about are thanks to other well known ingredients in the product they used
>>18494536
depeds. is your skin getting dry? then yes
>>18494571
take a closer look if there are small blood vessels that appear red from afar. i was recommended laser procedure for this but never really went with it. you could also take a few days break or not apply anything in that area to make sure it is not skincare related. also see if it shows up more or flares up when exposed to sun
>>18494580
how much time you did this routine
>bumpy
get an exfoliator
>oily
ymmv, but some people report reduced oiliness after using retinoids (if thats not the case for you then maybe stronger ones), niacinamide, salicylic acid, green tea extract. the last and most atomic way of dealing with extreme oiliness is isotretinoin.
my oiliness got reduced significantly after sorting out my haircare regimen
>if i cant wash my face for a day or two
when using sunscreen, you should wash your face daily. if its not possible, perhaps wet wipes can help. i think there are even salicylic acid ones but depends where you live
>>18494787
depends how sensitive your skin is. for some people its 2 weeks. i think doctorly added a yt vid recently regarding stopping something vs pushing through but not sure if cleansers were involved
>>18495564
>swapped Ordinary retinal 0.2% for Menarini tretinoin 0.1%
holy shit anon

>>18495592
>I still get pimples and never have a clear face
tret does not fix acne, it speeds up cell turnover in your skin and gets the stuff thats deep in your skin to the outer layer faster (purging). afterwards, you basically see less of acne. the underlying cause might be anything (diet, unhealthy lifestyle, hormones, environmental effect etc)
>Should I go cold turkey and see what happens?
you could, but more important is what your doc said
>How many days would it take for my skin to no longer be dependent on the products?
your skin is not dependent on tret after you started using it. i think retinoic acid (this is the thing that tret becomes once in your skin) is synthesized in your body anyway, regardlesss of retinoid usage
it is advised to continue using sunscreen 1-2 weeks after last retinoid application
>>18495716
hmm does it flare up during longer sun exposure? are you using sunscreen? see if it calms down in a few days, stay inside
>Everything topical burns, even water
consider going to derm
>>18495728
best would be going to derm if possible
>>18495919
i usually look up clinical data when in doubt about any ingredient i hear about. iirc, topical snail mucin has positive effect on wound healing so its possible it can help with irritation/redness. heard its a little overrated though
>>18496062
nice
>How should penis skincare look like? Like the 10 step for the face but without spf?
lets hope not

>>18496238
Yes, it does flare up after sun exposure even though I use SPF when I go outside. Shreddit suggested that my skin barrier is compromised, so I’ll be walking back the cleansers and tret for a few days. Dermatologist visit scheduled for next week if no improvement.

I’m using the following and I am not really seeing any visible improvement after 2 months. In fact I’m left with mild redness/irritation in the morning especially around nose and cheeks. My goals are to reduce pore size and redness on nose, have smooth looking clear skin, and anti-aging. I’m also learning to do makeup for a “natural” look (male).
>AM
SPF 50 tinted mineral sunscreen
concealer for undereyes
>PM
1. Ordinary Glucoside Cleanser
2. Ordinary Sacchromyces Toner
3. Good Molecules Gentle Retinol Cream
4. Vanicream Daily Moisturizer

Is there something more effective I could be doing or something I’m missing? I admit I picked random stuff I saw recommended last time. Budget is <$400 for everything. Will be going to derm too for advice.

>>18496233
>>swapped Ordinary retinal 0.2% for Menarini tretinoin 0.1%
>holy shit anon
yeah it's been tingling, I've given it a break

What do I think about Derma rolling?

A little confused about how I should incorporate moisturising cleanser in the morning when I take a shower anyway. Just skip out on it and simply apply sunscreen after the shower?

>>18496335
>pore size
here goes threadly rec for Tina's vids about pore care
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evdxhw9fCkY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAveYddVE8s
>redness on nose
could be anything, check with derm
>smooth looking clear skin
exfoliation + retinoids
>anti-aging
whatever boosts collagen production (high % glycolic acid peels, vitamin c, retinoids, copper peptides)

you seem to do some of these but
>Good Molecules Gentle Retinol Cream
>0,1% retinol
maybe try something stronger. i wouldnt expect much after using that concentration. the results also depend on your age
>Ordinary Sacchromyces Toner
i can see it being marketed as an exfoliator but i dont see any good clinical data for topical use. the one i found says it is good anti-inflammatory ingredient https://docs.bvsalud.org/biblioref/2023/07/1438336/en_v15a166.pdf
and here is one for scalp bacteria and fungal infection so not really relevant to your issues https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10520257/
does it even work for you? if yes, continue using it. if no, bin it. i would try aha (glycolic acid in particular if you dont have sensitive skin) or bha if i were you instead. or maybe pha, it is recommended here from time to time but im not that familiar with pha and dont have many products rec
>Will be going to derm too for advice.
ask for a stronger retinoid
>>18496941
depends what you want to address
>>18496981
>Just skip out on it and simply apply sunscreen after the shower?
yes. water alone for washing face in the morning is often enough unless you put a lot of things or slugged in your pm routine the day before

>>18496233
>is your skin getting dry?
Fortunately not so far. I bought a pretty cheap store brand cleanser that’s supposed to mimic the old Cetaphil cleanser that had SLS but then I’ve read that SLS is bad so idk if I should toss it. SLS is on the lower half of the ingredients so I don’t think it’s that ugh if a concentration. I think having oily skin might prevent it from stripping

When did the old skincare thread become this?
Not that I'm complaining mind you.
Anyway I think I've found a pretty reliable way to stay smelling good even in this utterly fucked weather.
>before bed drink activated charcoal
>wax and exfoliate pits and ass
>tongue scrape
>use iodine gargle
>stick over spray or roll-ons

>>18497306
>drink activated charcoal
? What exactly is this supposed to do?
Also how do you go about waxing ass and pits, I feel like the constant sweat and rubbing would certainly cause agitation

>>18497306
>When did the old skincare thread become this?
What was it before?
>Anyway I think I've found a pretty reliable way to stay smelling good even in this utterly fucked weather.
Hmm I don't see anything related to water intake

>>18482733 (OP)
is there a reason why my hair is frizzy and hasn't dried even though i washed my hair 2-3 days ago?
i apply shampoo and conditioner once a week, should i add hair oils and hair mask to my weekly haircare routine?

irritation seems to be acceptable today, might give the tret another go tomorrow with the closed sandwich method and will try to spread it as thin as possible

Young retard here; what I do almost everyday is

> Wake up
> Eat directly a good breakfast (eggs, cheese, milk 2%, 5g of creatine(btw should I go up to 10g))
Sometimes eat directly shit breakfast (sausage, bacon, coffee
> taking omega-3 supplements
> wait like 20 minutes before taking a little coffee
> Warm my face then use micellar water to clean it
> Sometimes I use lib scrubs
> Use guasha to make my blood circulate better
> drink some organic coconut water, eat bananas or both to balance the level of sodium in my body
> Trying my best to eat clean (I'm in Canada, unfortunately)
or else making a smoothie/milk shake with (milk, dark chocolate, granola, creamy honey, 5g of creatine, banana, ice cream, kefir) (sometimes i do this during morning)
> brain-rotting (im still in school and have no job, so no money)
> eat lunch try my best to also eat healthy
> deep contrast shower, sometimes shave
> reclean my face
> 500mg of magnesium
> brain-rotting but with eye-comfort shield or red filter on my phone for not destroying my eyes
> sleep

>>18497678
Big BIG thing. Apply some sunscreen in the morning. Also do you fucking do Guasha on your face?

>>18497830
>Also do you fucking do Guasha on your face?
yeah ofc

>>18497678
Does Chinese face scraping shit actually work? I know a girl who does it and she does look highly youthful for being almost 40 but that’s not necessarily causal

I would tell you to add an OTC retinol cream.

Sunscreen when you go out or wear a big hat or whatever. Also stop brain rotting you need your attention span

>>18497895
> Does Chinese face scraping shit actually work?
Well for me I use for make my blood circulate but ig yeah

> I would tell you to add an OTC retinol cream.
I"m too young than the age people recommend

> stop brain rotting you need your attention span
alright imma try my best

Should I cleanse 3 times a day on the days I go to the gym? I work up quite a sweat even just lifting since I train intensely.

I'll wake up, do my morning skincare routine, and then hit up the gym around 1-2pm on weekdays. When I come home, is just washing my face sufficient or should I buy a gentle cleanser for this step?

>>18482733 (OP)
I've noticed that benzoyl peroxide irritates my eyes no matter how I put it on, and I'm starting to wonder if it's an allergy. Is there an alternative? I'm using differin in the evening and wanted to used benzoyl peroxide in the morning.

>>18498299
....keep it away from your eyes?

>>18498299
less is more with benzoyl peroxide

pro tip: cleanse with it in the shower so you aren't leaning down and causing gravity to make it droop down to your eye area

you can tilt your head back during the shower cleanse and control the application more, morning or evening

>>18498224
Definitely something gentle and consider incorporating moustirisation to balance the amount of cleansing you'd do.

>>18498224
Depending on your skin, splashing some water could be enough. If not, get a hydrating cleanser. If you will notice any breakouts, do it before leaving gym

Do I wash face or exfoliate first? ChatGPT says to exfoliate after washing, but what happen to the gunk that exfoliation frees up from pores? It doesn't just disappear

>>18498224
After gym I like to use a hypochlorous acid spray like The Magic Molecule. It’s a gentle disinfectant for skin that calms inflammation and prevents breakouts. Great for when you don’t want to wash your face a 3rd time to prevent over drying or compromising skin barrier.

>>18498545
Exfoliate, then wash. Be gentle with mechanical exfoliants though, anon.

>>18497662
Sounds like your hair is low porosity and possibly some variation of curl/wave. I have same problem when I don’t diffuse dry. Post hair? Can rec products and care better by seeing texture.

>>18498545
Wash first, then exfoliate.
Exfoliating first just gets rid of the surface level stuff you were going to clean away anyway.

>>18498596
it looks straight, but my hair type is slightly wavy

>>18497472
>? What exactly is this supposed to do?
Absorbs bad smelling digestion products in the stomach.
>Also how do you go about waxing ass and pits, I feel like the constant sweat and rubbing would certainly cause agitation
Cold wax strips + the cream that comes with it. Do it in the evening and sleep in light clothes.
>>18497660
>What was it before?
Just skincare.
>Hmm I don't see anything related to water intake
Mb I thought that was a given. Nowadays I try to drink a lot of water before I even get out of bed. Also helps with staying full.

>>18498620
Not bad as is, but try incorporating a leave in conditioner or curl cream. I use Rizzo’s. Rake through, avoiding getting it directly on the scalp.

Use a diffuser to dry hair if it’s staying wet for days. Simply scoop up hair toward scalp and let it sit for a few seconds and repeat. Doing this upside down helps volume. Avoid dry brushing/combing waves. It’ll make it frizzier. To keep hair nice at night, I suggest a silk pillowcase or bonnet. Beneficial for everyone imo.

To test porosity, take some hair from your comb and put it in a cup of water.
Skinks immediately? Porous and may want an oil after drying in addition to your leave in. Hard to retain moisture as cuticle lets it out. Look for ingredients like coconut oil or shea butter. Use a spray bottle to wet hair before applying leave in product.

Floats? Or floats then sinks? Lower porosity and would see benefits from a leave in applied on wet hair straight out of the shower.

>>18498629
doesn't sink at all, stays afloat
should i continue using my regular conditioner, add hair oils plus hair mask to my routine, or just start using this leave-in conditioner?

>>18498596
>>18498610
Who do I trust

>>18498643
What conditioner do you use? Generally, your wash day would be in this order:

1) shampoo
2) condition
3) [now out of the shower] leave in conditioner
4) dry hair using preferred method (blow dryer or air)
5) apply oil

Leave in conditioner does not replace regular conditioner, but a hair mask does.

>>18482733 (OP)
Our skin has a bi-lipid layer to restrict infiltration of chemicals.

>>18498644
Exfoliation will like >>18498610 said, remove surface level dead skin and dirt. I prefer to get the surface stuff off before deeply cleansing my skin.

But, it can go either way. If you’re using a chemical exfoliant such as a BHA leave-on or niacinamide, that’s done after cleansing. If you’re using a physical exfoliant, like I may have incorrectly assumed, you’d want to cleanse afterward to avoid leaving particles on the skin.

>>18482907
I would recommend Laneige Milk Toner

Okay niggers, the final conundrum to deal with... we all know that a tan makes you look better as a man, but we know the sun damages your skin.

So... how to go about getting a light tan in the safest way possible and minimizing the damage you do to yourself in the process?

>>18498976
gen z don't tan and value glowy pale skin more. Tanning is milenniboomer balding macho man thing

>>18498983
this feels like a terminally online perspective

Korean or western skincare

What's better?

>>18498983
Mentally ill retard

>>18498976
Put on low grade mineral sunscreen to your face like 30 spf or less and tan your body carefully so as to never get burned.

Tan is extremely helpful for aesthetics and really not negotiable unless you are truly beautiful when pale which is rare. Even brownoids look sickly without sun

>>18496538
tried applying yesterday in a closed sandwich with the smallest amount of tret I could spread over my face, there was only minor irritation for about 15 minutes and that's it
maybe I'm just very lucky with my skin

AM
Wash with Dove beauty bar
Apply mousiturizer with sunscreen(Common Clouds - Cloud Screen)

PM
Wash face with dove beauty bar
BHA Exfoliating toner (Common Cloud - Cloud Water)
Retinol night moisturizer(Common Cloud - Moon Balm)
Common Cloud is a swedish skincare company, thry have gotten some good reviews, but not sure if they are super known outside of sweden. The retional night balm is a "starter" retinol with very low percentage of retinol compared to some other ones, but their products have gotten good reviews here.
Would like to go with CeraVe AM/PM but they are not available with retionol in sweden from what I can see.

>>18498983
WTF dude, having a light tan is so goated

>>18499196
why not just retinol itself?

>>18498976
Ease in the tanning, get some morning sun and late afternoon like for a week if youre pale then get into midday (11am-3pm) light 5-10 minutes and later on 10-15 minutes. Just dont go straight into 9-10+ uv index part of the day (usually 11am-3pm). All depends on your part of the world, check your daily uv index chart.

How often should I use this tretinoin when starting out? I am coming from Ordinary retinol 1%. I applied a pea sized amount of the tretinoin to my face on tuesday night.

...and seems like the 4% bp wash I've been using has already stopped being effective. Skin looks like shit again, absolutely disgusting

is uv protective clothing that superior than regular clothes for protecting your skin from the sun? it's not like you get sunburns when your skin is covered with regular clothes

>>18500200
I don’t know but UV clothing looks like pure fucking shit I don’t know why anyone would wear that instead of just using sunscreen

>>18500206
Sunscreen is estrogenic and carcinogenic

>>18500309
Estrogenic? Don't mind if I do.

>>18499666
I recently posted about graduating from retinal 0.2% (about 2x stronger than retinol 1%) to tret 0.1% so about the same jump
>fairly bad irritation after first application
>minor temporary irritation after 2nd 5 days after
>no irritation on 3rd application 2 days after that
I was moisturizing only after retinal, for now I'm closed sandwiching the tret

>>18500956
I should add that I probably used way too much the first time I did tret

any reason why i would want this over aquaphor or something?

so how do i get rid of self harm scars?

>>18503279
make enough new ones so that it blends into the rest of the skin

>>18502928
I just use vaseline on my eyes before tret (I've started daily now after a bit less than 2 weeks)

Is it normal for a fungal infection, like on your scalp/neck, to feel worse when you start treating it with antifungals? I think it's starting to look better, but it feels more irritated. That mean it's working, or am I doing something wrong?

Threadly reminder that collagen supplements have no effect in studies that aren't funded by industry.

>>18504405
I always assumed they were bullshit until very recently fags were talking about studies that show them workingmade me doubt myself. Isn’t jello pure collagen. If jello was good for the skin our grandmothers would have figured that out. Someone figured out how to sell people ground up egg shells lol

How often to apply a product with 7% AHA?

can i use retinol tonight if i put benzoyl peroxide this morning

A really unflattering photo was taken of me recently and its scared me how fucked up my face skin is.
I'm never out in the sun, but i look like 50 year old man. Is there any first steps I can take to fix this?

>>18505533
retinoids with all the works (spf, moisturizer, etc.)
your bald head might also have something to do with your perceived age

>>18505712
yeah the bald doesnt help. when i wear a hat i look younger (from far away) but up close its clear that my skin tone is blotchy, dry, and i have heavy forehead creasing.

I was on medical steroids for 3 years which bloated my face and then i had rapid weight loss after coming off them which I think exacerbated my face wrinkles

>>18505718
TRT will fuck your shit up mercilessly, both skin and hair... I would start a standard retinoid regimen and see how it goes (AM SPF/PM cleanse+retinoid+moisturizer)
maybe start with retinol 0.5 or 1%

jesus christ this shit back again. it was good for some time and the retarded algorithm strikes back

Error: Our system thinks your post is spam. Please reformat and try again.

and then a fucking 2 minute timeout Please wait a while before making a post. cant believe how retarded admins are

>>18498545
>>18498644
cleanse first, then exfoliate. look at professionals doing it. they degrease the face first with special alcohol based product usually so the exfoliator has less obstruction to go through. unless you have some weird product like charcoal scrub that acts like a cleanser

>>18498976 >>18498983 >>18499013
just dont forget camera filters can do the tan (or remove it) just like it can "beautify" someone. i remember someone posted a webm supplement ad to make body skin whiter. it was a person first showing dark skin against bright background and then (obviously after using the supplement) bright skin against dark background. thanks to the background contrast change, the perception was that the girl got whiter
>>18499027
the one that works for you in terms of efficacy, price and availability. skincare is personal and even "holy grails" wont work for everyone
>>18499196
cerave has retinol line but as a serum, so consider getting that and moisturize afterwards in case you need it
olay or neutrogena has retinol in moisturizer i think

>>18499666
checked
every 2-3 days i guess, maybe 3-4 if you are sensitive, work it up to every day
>>18499789
i would not expect bp cleanser to work forever after a few applications. its like doing a diet for a few weeks, stopping it, getting fat again and wondering why the fat is back
>>18500956
glad it worked in the end
>>18502928
never really got into lip balms, my gf sometimes gives me something but id rather just moisturize my lips as part of skincare (both light moisturizers as well as heavy ones and sometimes petroleum jelly) and im good
>>18503279
there was something about onion creams doing miracles to scars. also heard about some kind of oils but id go to a professional and see what he would recommend

>>18503887
>Is it normal for a fungal infection, like on your scalp/neck, to feel worse when you start treating it with antifungals?
i cant say much on this subject but certain anti dandruff shampoos i used were so drying they caused the dandruff themselves (due to dry scalp). really retarded and confusing. push through if thats a rec from your doc
>>18504405
ive been doing some research on this and indeed i cant really find good sources about efficacy of collagen supplements. even licensed derm yt channels dont say much (maybe one said they have been using it for 2 months and does not seem to work). i came across this website that basically says get nsf certified shit but i am yet to look into what the procedure looks like (skip the product recs, just the description of certifications)
https://resyncproducts.com/blogs/resync-blog/what-is-the-best-collagen-supplement

>>18504545
i think gelatin works nicely for our joints, not sure about skin
>>18504935
if you are starting out, every 3 days i guess
>>18505527
sure
>>18505533
dubadubs checked
start with The Basic Routine (cleanser, moisturizer, sunscreen, retinol). plenty of recs in past threads/archive. report back in 3 months

>>18506453
>onion creams
do you actually mean onion or do you mean the word that starts with s and gets turned into onion by this site?

I like my AM routine

cleanser, VitC serum, Sunscreen

My PM routine is solid

cleanser, night lotion, retinol

But I don't know if my retinol is that good desu , is there a better drugstore one I could be using?

Cerave Night Lotion
Cerave night cream

>>18506553
onion as in vegetable. heard it smells really bad. anyway, turns out its good just for fresh scars. pretty sure ive seen a lot of positive reviews for stretch marks though
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1155/2012/212945
maybe it could help, idk. i would expect it needs a lot of time to see any results, even if used with retinoids and 30% glycolic acid product (to thicken the skin). you could put all that money into a procedure which i think would yield a better result. but thats something a professional would need to look at to see what would be the best solution (derma rolling, laser, something else, idk)
>>18506582
all good desu but id use retinol after cleansing, not after moisturizer. unless your skin is really irritated or something
>don't know if my retinol is that good
we dont know either. posting the product could help solve the mystery

>>18506604
>Cerave night cream

i put it right at the bottom of the post lol

>>18506606
>Cerave night cream
https://www.cerave.com/skincare/moisturizers/skin-renewing-night-cream
>AQUA / WATER / EAU, GLYCERIN, CAPRYLIC/CAPRIC TRIGLYCERIDE, BUTYROSPERMUM PARKII BUTTER / SHEA BUTTER, DIMETHICONE/VINYL DIMETHICONE CROSSPOLYMER, CYCLOPENTASILOXANE, GLYCERYL STEARATE SE, CETYL ALCOHOL, DIMETHICONE, SACCHARIDE ISOMERATE, STEARIC ACID, PALMITIC ACID, GLYCINE SOJA STEROLS / BASEDBEAN STEROLS, ALLANTOIN, CERAMIDE NP, CERAMIDE AP, CERAMIDE EOP, CARBOMER, NIACINAMIDE, CETEARYL ALCOHOL, BEHENTRIMONIUM METHOSULFATE, SODIUM HYDROXIDE, MYRISTIC ACID, SODIUM LAUROYL LACTYLATE, SODIUM BENZOATE, SODIUM CITRATE, SODIUM HYALURONATE, CHOLESTEROL, PHENOXYETHANOL, TOCOPHEROL, TRIPEPTIDE-1, LAURETH-9, CITRIC ACID, CAPROOYL TETRAPEPTIDE-3, BIOSACCHARIDE GUM-1, PHYTOSPHINGOSINE, XANTHAN GUM, DEXTRAN, ETHYLHEXYLGLYCERIN, BUTYLENE GLYCOL

i dont see retinol here desu. pretty sure they would advertise it directly on the jar. check ingredients on your package to make sure as INCI varies between regions. looks like a good heavy moisturizer nonetheless

>>18506653
son of a bitch I thought this was a retinol the whole time lmao , I mighta gotten it confused with niacinamides, peptides, ceramides thinking it was all the same shit

if you have any good retinol recommendations lmk tho

>>18506656
the three most often recommended i think are olay, neutrogena, the ordinary and cerave (resurfacing retinol serum)
there might be some new players in the area of first time retinol products but the last one is what i used 2 years ago and had pretty good results. you will see some posts here every now and then saying the cerave one did nothing to some anons (and that its very low concentration) so it is up to you - id go with the cheapest or cerave if you have acne (licorice root and niacinamide are good actives for redness)

>>18506667
four*

>>18506667
thank you, ill give the resurfacing a look , I find Cerave to be pretty primo for me

>>18506653
>BASEDBEAN
heh

>>18506453
>i would not expect bp cleanser to work forever after a few applications. its like doing a diet for a few weeks, stopping it, getting fat again and wondering why the fat is back
I've still been using it twice a day, haven't stopped. Though I think the issue is fungal
>>18506455
>i cant say much on this subject but certain anti dandruff shampoos i used were so drying they caused the dandruff themselves (due to dry scalp). really retarded and confusing. push through if thats a rec from your doc
Yeah, they've given me a prescription for something stronger, I'll see what happens...

How long does it take before tretinoin starts showing results?

I have oily skin and started using tretinoin recently which has been quite drying. What kind of cleanser should I use - for dry or oily skin? Also any recommendations for a matching PM moisturizer?

>>18506833
Right after you decide to stop using it

>>18505718
>>18506180
>medical steroids,
so not trt I think? I was put on medical steroids as well. they gave me dexamethasone and some other steroids I don't know the name of anymore during my cancer treatment
didn't get any wrinkles during treatment, but I did start getting a very faint nasolabial fold line 2 years after treatment that I now slather in retinoids (so it's almost gone now)

>>18506921
>>18506180
It was corticosteriods, prednisone. Ive been on and off it most of my life since age 12.
But I was on it more recently and it seems like my face skin was permanetly damaged from it this time around

skin barrier is one thing youll only respect after youve compromised it
just finished ceramides moisturizer + cicalfate for 1 month
now im using ceramides mositurizer + cicaplast for another month but cicaplast hurts my eyes

>>18506836
oil cleanser but the one you posted looks good. i also have extremely oil skin and was using cerave acne control cleanser and lrp effaclar with tret and aza and it broke my skin barrier. now im using cerave oil cleanser and it's much better although im not using any other actives until my skin is healed which i think will take up 2 months or maybe more --- i just hope it's not permanent

>>18507399
>skin barrier is one thing youll only respect after youve compromised it
just never cleanse/exfoliate lol
maybe once in a blue moon, but otherwise just water on your face is fine. honestly skippable step for me.

>>18507402
you are 100% right but applying products on an oily skin will always leave the skin feeling dirty if you dont wash it at the start/end of the day with either hot water or a cleanser. ive used foaming cleansers for 2 years and just now found about oil cleansers. they are not aggressive, it's like washing with water but more nutritive

anyway anyone using tret should be extra careful about using a cleanser this is my advice. not using a cleanser would be preferable. even if your skin feels resilient for some time it will eventually break if you exfoliate harshly with foaming cleansers

Why do i have to look so disgusting no matter what i put on my face.
Every day is just humiliation. I hate when other people can see me.
Genuinely pushing me towards suicide.
Why couldn't i have just been normal?

>>18482733 (OP)
Anyone know of floss that isn't single use? I like floss picks but they tear and it doesn't seem sustainable to keep buying them

>>18507899
Just get any normal floss (I hear cocofloss is good) or a water flosser if you don't like flossing normally.

This selenium sulfide shampoo smells weird

>>18507973
>water flosser
Be careful with those, nearly blew my gums apart kek

What are the best anti aging things for your skin? I use tretinoin, sunscreen and moisturiser. Is there anything else?

>>18508095
a 5ar inhibitor like finasteride or dutasteride for hairloss is actually good for skin as well

https://www.aging-us.com/article/206288/text
>rejuvenate ageing skin through young blood marrow transfusions
time to vampiremaxx?

>>18506833
depends on what you are expecting it to do
>>18506836
your pic related is pretty great, one of the best cleansers i had (i have combination type of skin). you can also go one step towards something even more gentle/hydrating which would be cerave hydrating cleanser. you could also go double cleansing route (oil cleanser + water based cleanser) which is pretty cool
>recommendations for a matching PM moisturizer?
people recommend either oil free for oily/combination type of skin (cerave pm, neutrogena hydroboost) or something heavier for dry type of skin (lrp lipikar baume)
>>18507766
once you stop worrying about other peoples opinions, your life will improve significantly. simple as

I can't afford cleaner or a sun screen(cheap ones are all fake, don't want to rape my skin).

Is it okay if I use tretinoin, moisturizer and white dove soap? Is cleanser and sun screen necessary?

any lip balm recommendations? I used to use Kiehl's lip balm but it's discontinued, looking for something that isn't flavorful

>>18508095
- healthy lifestyle
- 30% glycolic acid peels
- skinceuticals formula for vitamin c serums (timeless or geek&gorgeous for more affordable price) though there might have been more recent studies or development about (new) types of vitamin c
- ghk cu
- led masks
- procedures
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOhGsFVVmaQ
>>18509336
in 30-50 years this will be talked about casually same way we talk about derma rolling today
>>18509491
your priorities are wrong. stop tret and wait until you can get sunscreen. trying to repair something with tret and not preventing your skin from further sun damage/photoaging in the first place is just waste of money. not to mention potential irritation and redness from sunburn
dove soap is fine

>>18509869
thanks

>>18509869
>- 30% glycolic acid peels
I tried this from the ordinary and it raped my skin
still recovering, not even new to exfoliating either

>>18509869
This anon is a humongous faggot

I want the Maserati of moisturizers but I'm too poor :(

>>18510164
nice, fixed what exactly?
>>18510166
hmm, maybe try one or two more times once you recover. make sure to ease in, leave it on for 2-4 minutes based on your earlier experience with glycolic acid and then add one more minute every next use. you could also try applying a product that will neutralize acid/low ph on your skin after washing it off.
if that wont work, perhaps glycolic acid is not the best for you and maybe try other AHA eg mandelic or even milder - lactic. not sure whats their anti-aging potential though
>>18510375
i think dr dray or doctorly had a video about overpriced products and iirc expensive moisturizers dont really provide any major advantages over cheap ones. there might be some more actives but it would be better to put your money into something else

which moisturizer is the absolute most hydrating thing? when I shave I have to use benzoyl afterwards for 3 days to avoid pimples and ingrowns and it takes a toll on my skin

>>18511670
I use la roche posay toleriane for sensitive skin after recommendation from someone here. I really love it but i dont think it cuts it for this job. as a daily driver it's perfect though.

Can anyone recommend a men's bodywash that's good for skin? I'm guessing alcohol is an instant non-starter?

>>18511851
aveeno hydrating one
just makes sure it's got moisturizing properties and you're gucci

I have naturally dry grainy skin and hyperpigmentation spots. Tried using a the Ordinary routine years ago that had a bunch of elixers/cleansers but saw no progress after 2 months so quit ever since. What do I do?

Convince me to keep taking azelaic acid 15%. It itches so bad. Tretinoin 0.1% is fucking amazing and I slather that shit on like crazy with no problems. Wish I started taking tret when I was like 10 desu. What more can azelaic acid add?

Any OTC recommendations that doesn't have any bad side effects for this kind of acne scarring? I'm not getting new pimples since I'm in my late 20s but I'd like to have the scars not look as bad, doesn't need to get rid of them entirely. I usually just wash my face with water in the morning then use some cerave cleanser in the shower at night

about to come off isotretinoin and start tazarotene.

does isotretinoin also help reduce wrinkles and even skin tone or does it just reduce sebum production? should i expect to see improvements after starting taz?

obviously my skin got a lot better with isotretinoin, just wondering if it provides comparable benefits in the anti-aging department.

also it's my first time on taz. how would you compare to tretinoin?

>>18511986
0.1% Adapalene Gel
pea size amount on clean, dry skin 5-6 days a week. you need to be consistent on that routine for 12 weeks to start seeing
the results.
you'll be sensitive to sun damage so SPF is especially necessary. should be using it anyways though.
you may want to start by using it every other day and working up to daily as your skin adjust.


A.M.
wash
moisturizer with SPF 30 or higher (like CeraVe Ultra-Light Moisturizing Lotion SPF 30)

P.M.
wash and fully dry
adapalene
moisturizer

>>18512004
Thanks for the help. Is the gel something I'd need to keep up long term or can I stop using it after a point?

>>18512135
use it long term for overall skin health benefits. it will speed up skin turnover, clear pores, brighten and even skin tone, reduce wrinkles, etc. retinoids are one of the goats of skincare.

pretty sure the scar reduction though.

also 0.3% is the only strength i've see studies on for reducing scars and it's prescription only.

have read people posting online that 0.1% works too. you should probably go at least a full year. seems like a lot but it's no big deal once you have the routine established.

microneedling is another option. i haven't tried it personally, but worth looking into.

>>18512141
>pretty sure the scar reduction though.
am dumb

pretty sure the scar reduction will stick though.

My stack has arrived

>>18512171
yummers

>>18512171
BTW I noticed that my stacks lacks a retinoid. Should I add it as a beginner?

>>18512171
here's my routine btw (yeah I had chatgpt help me here):
"Morning (AM)

COSRX Low pH Good Morning Cleanser
– Gentle cleanse to remove sweat/oil from the night.

Beauty of Joseon Glow Serum (yellow box)
– Hydrates, brightens, helps control oil.

COSRX Hydrium Moisture Power Enriched Cream (round jar)
– Locks in hydration with ceramides + panthenol.

Sunscreen
Evening (PM, Daily)

Beauty of Joseon Ginseng Cleansing Oil (peach box)
– Removes sunscreen/makeup and excess oil.

COSRX Low pH Good Morning Cleanser
– Second cleanse to remove oil residue.

Beauty of Joseon Glow Serum

COSRX Hydrium Moisture Power Enriched Cream
Exfoliation Nights (1–2× per week, PM)

Replace the serum step with: COSRX AHA 7 Whitehead Power Liquid (white box with black label)
Use after cleansing, before moisturizer.
Avoid combining with other strong actives on the same night.
Start with once a week to see how your skin reacts.
Example PM on exfoliation night:

1. Ginseng Cleansing Oil
2. Good Morning Cleanser
3. AHA 7 Whitehead Power Liquid (wait 5–10 min)
4. Hydrium Moisture Cream"

>>18511670
uhh have you tried other things, like salicylic or azelaic acid. perhaps try lower concentration or something
i use drugstore cream that has allantoin + d-panthenol (you can feel how it softens your skin in 3 seconds) and then use a drugstore knockoff of lrp cicablast baume b5+ or whatever it was called. even my gf was surprised how good this combo is
>>18511851
something sls free, no alcohol, possibly hydrating
>>18511878
start with The Basic Routine of Skin Gods (cleanser, moisturizer, sunscreen, retinoid). give it 2 months and see how it goes

>>18511881
not sure what your goals are with skincare so i cant really say anything for or against azelaic acid in your context. it is an underrated ingredient though
>>18511986
dermarolling or The Basic Routine of Skin Gods (see post above), and once your first retinol finishes, get a prescription (stronger) retinoid. the other anon gave you a good advice as well
>>18512171
nice
>>18512871
should have added it when you introduced sunscreen in your routine (see The Basic Routine of Skin Gods post above)
>>18512876
all good. wait until skin is fully dry before applying cosrx AHA

I think I have too many products with hyaluronic acid to the point it's doing nothing now.
>hyaluronic acid face foam
>toner with 7 different molecular weighted hyaluronic acid
>ultra-low molecular hyaluronic acid serum
>moisturizer with hyaluronic acid
>0.3% retinol cream at night, which also has hyaluronic acid in it
Is all this hyaluronic acid going to waste considering how much I am putting on?

>>18513426
just keep in mind that hyaluronic acid is extremely overrated. it provides some additional temporary hydration which has no long term effect. some people notice their skin is more "plump" or "filled" after use but thats probably because they dehydrated.
also if you use too much of it and/or live in arid or dry climate/house, it can actually dry out your skin - many such cases all around internets where people start understanding its not that great. i imagine it must be super cheap to formulate and use in skincare products. then just slap that name on the package and sales will come in easily. people buy HA products because it is mentioned everywhere, so they want one too (which is an interesting psychological aspect of marketing).
however, low molecular HA seems to have long term effects, but i have not seen much clinical data on it. another advantage is that it helps other ingredients to penetrate skin.
with that in mind
>hyaluronic acid face foam
wouldnt care much as its gone from your face within next minute. dont think it can absorb during that time but i might be wrong
>toner with 7 different molecular weighted hyaluronic acid
>ultra-low molecular hyaluronic acid serum
if you really want a dedicated product with HA, choose one of these. ask chatgpt which one is better based on inci list. personally i would skip both. i had a "7 low molecular level HA sunscreen" and it just dried the fuck out of me even when applying a heavier moisturizer beforehand
>moisturizer with hyaluronic acid
really depends about concentration (which you see rarely on the package) and/or line of products (does it say super water splash juice bomb extreme hydration?). i think majority of moisturizers have some form of hyaluronic and you cant avoid it. my cerave body lotion has it too; it does not dry me out so dont really care
>0.3% retinol cream at night, which also has hyaluronic acid in it
probably to help with absorption of other ingredients

update: after 3 weeks I can finally do tret .1% daily with no irritation

>>18513706
>daily
you do tret on days you exfoliate?

>>18513202
>The Basic Routine of Skin Gods (cleanser, moisturizer, sunscreen, retinoid).
Looks like CeraVe has all these things. Would that be sufficient?

>>18513595
Thanks for all of this. I do have quite dry skin and think I went a bit overboard when making a routine, only after looking at the ingredients did I notice some products already had HA. I will chuck the face wash and get rid of the serum.

I raped my skin barrier

step by step guide to get it back asap?

>>18513855
drop any actives
moisturize religiously
use La Roche Posay Cicaplast Baume B5 as the occlusive to lock in moisture
don't go outside without SPF
drink plenty of water
make sure you're using a gentle cleanser
don't double cleanse
definitely don't use exfoliants
when you think it's fixed, it's not, keep going a couple more weeks

How do I apply mineral sunscreen and not look like this?

>>18513896
>drop any actives
I keep reading this online but my timeless 20% vit c and 0.1% tretinoin are the only things currently in my regimen that my skin still likes lol

>>18513896
anyway I got it, sort of
this version was all that was available on amazon so hopefully it's what you are recommending or close to it, couldn't find the exact one you posted

How's my routine?
Biore Acne Care Face Wash
TO Lactic Acid 10% (once every three days)
Melano CC
Pair Acne Cream
Purito Gel Oat Cream
Beauty of Joseon sunscreen

>>18513855
Use something with ceramides in it.

>>18486396
This eye cream works really well.
https://www.ratzillacosme.com/skin/sana-namerakahonpo-wrinkle-eye-cream-n-2021/

>>18513793
sure, its the first choice for many people. choose cleanser for your skin type. cerave AM is pretty good sunscreen too, get spf50. as for retinol, get the resurfacing retinol serum. start with these 3 and if you notice any kind of dryness after a few days, get moisturizer (cerave body lotion or cerave PM) and use it 15-20 minutes after applying retinol in pm routine.
am routine
- wash face with water (cleanser is optional in the morning unless you are super oily)
- cerave am
pm routine
- wash face with clenser (to get rid of sunscreen)
- wait 15-20 minutes
- cerave resurfacing retinol serum
- (optional: wait 15-20 minutes and apply moisturizer)
>>18513803
cool, but remember: the most important thing is that if something works for you, keep using it regardless what me and others say here or on reddit or anywhere else. basically listen to your skin. its the key to good skincare

>>18513855
other anons gave you good recs already (especially cicaplast baume). here is my take: use only sunscreen in am and petroleum jelly at night from now on until you are good. if moisturizer does not sting you, use that too.
>>18513936
check mineral sunscreen reviews on youtube and see how they look after application. i think majority of them look like this but there were a few that were above average. i think doctorly had a video on youtube talking about one
>>18514018
looks good, i would skip melano cc (was it vit c serum?) and acne cream on exfoliating days (if you are not already)
>>18514030
looks like it has retinol too, nice

Anyone ever been prescribed clobetasol propionate?
It doesn't seem to be doing anything for me.

How often do you guys use an exfoliating sponge? I try doing it only two days a week, but it always leaves my face (particularly high-cheeks) extremely sensitive to most of my products, esp acids. Im unsure if im doing something wrong, cause the acids dont normally burn and I make sure to be gentle when scrubbing

>>18487145
Is red light therapy actually useful or is it just a meme product?

>>18514125
>exfoliating sponge
idk what that is. also post routine, no idea what acids you are talking about either
>>18514129
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3926176/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10311288/
tldr science backs it up

new bread
>>18514413
>>18514413
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>>18514407
Repost from other thread in case this one lives long enough

Morning
>CeraVe Foaming Facial Cleanser
>TO Glycolic Acid 7% (Only Mon/Fri)
>E.L.F. Vit C+E Serum
>TO Niacinamide Serum
>Origins Skin-Defense Guardian
>E.L.F. Holy Hydration Cream
>La Roche-Posay SPF 60

Nights
Mon/Wed/Fri
>Facial Cleanser
>Niacinamide
>Face Cream
>Tretinoin .05%
>Argan Oil (seals in moisture)

Tues/Sat
>Facial Cleanser
>Vit C+E Serum
>Skin Guardian
>Face Cream
>Argan Oil

Thur
>Face Cleanser
>Niacinamide
>TO Lactic Acid 10% + HA
>Face cream
>Argan Oil

Sun
>Face Cleanser
>Niacinamide
>TO Salicyclic Acid 2% or TO AHA 30%+BHA 2% (switch between every week)
>Face cream
>Argan Oil
Also pic is the sponge I was talking about for exfoliating. I tend to do it Mon/Thur just so there's ample time between scrubs

>>18514117
Thats some strong corticosteroid, not sure why youre using it but its not advisable to use on thin (armpit,neck,genital area, skin folds) or facial area unless your dermatologist cleared its use for you. Its usually used for seb derm or psoriasis or eczema on the scalp (yeah scalp is also pretty thin, fuck if I know why they used it there) and other places.

>>18515251
>for seb derm
Yeah, that's what they prescribed it for, though I'm not sure it was actually helping, nor am I sure that's actually what the issue is...

>>18515314
Unfortunately, its only (for me) useful for calming it down. It can help the daily plaque/scale dandruff buildup and leave your scalp clean but reddish, irritated and inflamed. You(we) gotta find suitable moisturizer or ointment to help the scalp heal while fighting the fungal bullshit that comes with seb derm. Some go nuclear and just go bald or very short hair and found quick fix with petroleum based moisturizer or emollient which I guess your derm probably prescribed to you already for use with the clobesatol. Lots of stuff can contribute to it. From gut issues, gluten (or the glyphosate used in grain product), zinc copper balance (these 2 are also important for skin, there are tests for this but shit can get expensive), vitamin d (immune system and skin, general health), stress, nightshades, milk, needing more sunlight but not the burning shit, too much processed sugar. Try limiting food stuff mentioned to help your scalp heal and change pillowcase and bedsheet more often.

>>18515328
Eh, the thing is I already do shave my head. So that's what's so frustrating, whatever the issue is... is pretty visible. I did the clobetasol for a week, and all it did was burn (when I put it on, and also occasioanlly later in the day), so I'm stopping it (weening off gradually since it's a steroid). They also prescribed selenium sulfide shampoo, which also hasn't seemed to do much. Fwiw, I haven't actually been to a derm, just did an online call with a GP who I sent pics to, who consulted with a derm on the prescriptions. I may need to get a real appointment. The seb derm rash is one thing, but I keep getting infected follicles on my face/scalp.

>>18515345
You need to moisturize at least the part of your head or face having the seb derm patch after any shampoo/soap, since dry = more inflamed, you can try mct oil or plain vaseline. Coconut oil is cheaper but its not advisable since it has components that feed the fungal infection (whilst still having anti fungal components) and clog pores. There are coal tar or sulfur cream for topical use as well but they gonna smell, and you have to cover your head as those can make your scalp even more uv sensitive. There are some other shampoo like coal/pine tar based, ketoconazole,zinc pyrithione or piroctone olamine and/or rotate them. You can also try swimming in the sea as weird as it sounds.

>>18515372
I've been moisturizing, but not too much since that tends to give me acne. I've probably fucked up my skin/scalp though. Idk if I should continue using the antifungal shampoos or stop for a while. I've also been using a BP wash to try and fight acne. It's bad enough right now that I'll probably have to stay home from work tomorrow.