Skincare/hygiene General #19
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Post your routine, holy grails and strategies to shave balls. Share experience about skincare products and your skin issues

Some of the links might be outdated, post questions if you have any

FAQ:
Basic routine, skincare guide, and products tips: http://pastebin.com/5QEQgMUp
How to pop pimples, remove blackheads and whiteheads: http://pastebin.com/MufDiSfy
Why you shouldn't use ordinary soap on your face: http://pastebin.com/Ujf2x9M6
How to improve your skin tone through diet: http://pastebin.com/epLqSbEQ
Studies on how diary and sugars create acne: http://pastebin.com/0H5gag01
Dark circles around the eyes: http://pastebin.com/t796eKvr
Soap, pH, irritants and synthetic detergents: http://pastebin.com/51yse1NE
Post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation (PIH): http://pastebin.com/GXYPdwMf

Wiki:
Skin care basics: http://tuxbell.com/index.php?title=Grooming#Skin-care_Basics
Acne treatment: http://tuxbell.com/index.php?title=Grooming#Acne_Treatment

Skinacea Links:
Retinoids:
http://www.skinacea.com/retinoids/retinoids.html
Sunscreen:
http://www.skinacea.com/sunscreen/sunscreen.html
Ridding dark eye circles:
http://www.skinacea.com/how-to/get-rid-of-dark-circles.html

Skinceutical's patent for their C E Ferulic serum expired in March this year, lol

https://www.businessinsider.com/skinceuticals-c-e-ferulic-patent-expired-dupes-vitamin-c-skincare-2025-5?IR=T

my skin barrier is nuked from azelaic acid, tretinoin and careless use of acids

bought the cerave moisturizer oil but it cases acne in some people. anyone has experience with it? (can someone post that /fa/ chart? there's a cerave in there i dont remember which). also got the cerave oil cleanser which isnt an oil cleanser... and also got avène's cicalfate

my skin barrier is nuked from azelaic acid, tretinoin and careless use of acids

bought the cerave moisturizer cream but it cases acne in some people. anyone have experience with it? (can someone post that /fa/ chart? there's a cerave in there i dont remember which). also got the cerave oil cleanser which isn't an oil cleanser... and also got avène's cicalfate

>>18482733 (OP)
cleanser, sunscreen + moisturizer, and tretinoin
i also take isotretinoin
i want to apply hydroquinone for dark spots on my body (not face), is it a good idea? i tried kojic acid but it did nothing

What Cleanser and Moisturizer should I use when I apply Tretinoin daily? Not sure if I should use Cerave or LRP.

>>18482733 (OP)
i hate when i get ingrown hairs after shaving or trimming too close
does isotretinoin help with that? i also moisturize my skin daily, but only in the morning

>>18482733 (OP)
30 year old boomer here. You don't need products or a skincare routine to have nice skin. Your ancestors all had perfect skin despite never bathing and never paying attention to their skin.

All you need to do is the following:

>Eat a clean whole foods diet that contains plenty of proteins and animal fats.
>Dairy is a problem for some people and not others. For me it's cow fat specifically, so I avoid cream and milk, but yogurt and butter gives me no issues. Pay attention to how food affects your break outs.
>Get regular cardiovascular exercise. Doesn't have to be excessive or high effort.
>Get regular sun. Obviously don't burn your face off, but the sun is good for you and will help regulate your hormones.
>Try to reduce stress.
>Stop gooning. Cortisol spikes = acne.

Don't let the Jewish skincare industry convince you that putting a bunch of carcinogenic slop on your face is the only way to happiness. It's not. It will only make you dependent on them, just like with medications for chronic illnesses in general. You want to treat the root of the problem, not the symptoms, and the root of the problem goes way beyond the surface of your skin.

>>18482733 (OP) (OP)
30 year old boomer here. You don't need products or a skincare routine to have nice skin. Your ancestors all had perfect skin despite never bathing and never paying attention to their skin.

All you need to do is the following:

>Eat a clean whole foods diet that contains plenty of proteins and animal fats.
>Dairy is a problem for some people and not others. For me it's cow fat specifically, so I avoid cream and milk, but yogurt and butter gives me no issues. Pay attention to how food affects your break outs.
>Get regular cardiovascular exercise. Doesn't have to be excessive or high intensity.
>Get regular sun. Obviously don't burn your face off, but the sun is good for you and will help regulate your hormones.
>Try to reduce stress.
>Stop gooning. Cortisol spikes = acne.
>Stop washing your face excessively. Once a day with cold water will suffice. Your oil production will regulate itself if you just stop stripping it off 4 times a day. Every time you wash with soap and/or hot water you strip your face of its protective layer and make it easy for bacteria to enter, which causes more acne and dry skin.

Don't let the Jewish skincare industry convince you that putting a bunch of carcinogenic slop on your face is the only way to happiness. It's not. It will only make you dependent on them, just like with medications for chronic illnesses in general. You want to treat the root of the problem, not the symptoms, and the root of the problem goes way beyond the surface of your skin.

Taking dutasteride 0.5mg once daily has done more to clear up my skin than years of slathering my face with expensive creams and serums.

Taking spiro restored my hair and fixed my acne and raised my test.

>>18483350
Don't see your advice helping someone literally above you >>18483342
>>18483342
>does isotretinoin help with that?
Don't think so. If longer hair is a no go try urea cream, azelaic acid or (iirc) salicylic acid product

>>18483642
>Don't see your advice helping someone literally above you >>18483342
Maybe not directly, but ingrown hairs get inflamed and infected due to having a weak immune system and a lacking protective layer on your skin from excessive washing.

>>18483652
Damn, so nigga needs to wash less and he good?

are there magical products for razor burn? i've got a 0.5x0.3 cm large patch on my skin that kind of flares up and becomes red if I shave or if it becomes too dry

>>18483832
Yeah, basically. When you're constantly irritating your skin and stripping it of its natural oils it's going to make you more susceptible to infection. Same deal if your immune system is weak and can't fight off things like staph infections, which most people do on a regular basis.

The alternative is that it's a genetic condition and it's completely out of his control. In which case the only solution is to go to the store and spend money on some magical solution.

Which do you think is more likely though?

>>18483905
Well, I thought shaving (that close) was invented by humans fairly recently (which is unnatural for the skin) and that it may cause certain side effects. And that some people want to offset them with something

>>18483998
Yet most men don't have this problem. Don't you wonder why?

Good shaving creams? People in other generals are retarded about skincare.

Still have yet to try a peptide serum, red light mask, and at-home microneedling. I have a Derminator 2 that works very well so just need to get the particulars right like safety set-up and what lengths and speed work best for each part of the face, etc.

Probably will only needle once a month. Anything more is excessive. Has anyone here tried microneedling with success?

For me, putting on some BP cleanser for a few min after shaving helped a lot with ingrown hairs.

>>18484249
>bp cleanser
what's that?

>>18484391
benzoyl peroxide
I use the Cerave 4% stuff. I rub it onto damp skin, let it sit for a few min, then wash it off. Be careful though because if it's not washed off thoroughly, it will bleach-stain your towels

>>18484079
I don't have this problem if I put hot towel on my face for 5 minutes before shaving so idk

I fucking hate my skin texture. I'm 25/m but somehow look 10 years older even though I never smoke, I never drink and I wear spf50+ anytime I step outside.
Tretinoin has helped me a lot with acne but I have yet to see any of the promised anti aging benefits
What's worse is that tret made my eye area more sensitive and dry, which looks worse now than it did before, so now I have to use tret very sparingly and put vaesline on my eye area.
I have had a consistent skin care routine for years using all types of active ingredients, and they have def helped me fight acne and oiliness but I fail to see any improvement on the actual skin texture.
I workout, drink lots of water, eat 3 eggs everyday and have been taking collagen supplements recently. My diet is by no means perfect but def better than that of the average Joe.
My body is pale but my face has this weird brownish taint with some red spots on my cheeks for some reason.
My messed up sleep schedule is definitely part of the blame which I'm gonna fix but I'm wondering what else I need to do?
I just wanna look young bro

>>18482733 (OP)
I paid almost $30 for a new moisturizer and all it did was break me out. I think I'll go back to using Curel
>>18482907
Figuring out whether or not a product will cause acne for you is a matter of trial and error. I can't use cerave due to allergies but I know a lot of people rave about the stuff in the tub.
A lot of people rave about avene cicalfate for moisture barrier repair as well. It wasn't for me but it has zinc in it which can be really good. Same stuff that is in diaper rash cream. I've tried incorporating avene products back into my routine because I loved extreme emulsion but their other stuff seems to drive my skin ballistic.
>>18484189
>at-home microneedling
Please don't. Dermarollers are not equivalent to what professionals use. It can cause infections and scarring. I now a lot of people rave about professional microneedling but I don't have the money for that.
>>18484487
>so now I have to use tret very sparingly and put vaesline on my eye area
In my experience aquaphor works better than vaseline for this reason.

My skin texture is horrible from acne caused by dermatillomania from the past. I don't break out unless I relapse and touch my face again. Current regiment is cetaphil non-foaming cleanser, la roche posay cicaplast b5+ balm cream & anthelios sunscreen. My skin is retardedly dry but I'm considering getting tretinoin to help with reducing the acne scar texture, is there something I could do to have my skin be NOT totally fucked?

Would you fuck me? I’d fuck me.

For me it's illiyoon ato ceramide moisturizer
It's only $20 or less
Been using it for 3 years now

>71
What's your excuse

my moisturizer of choice for the last 2 months

feels solid, anyone have experience with it?
dipping my toes into koreashit and it's cheap

>>18484748
Guess Dianetics does work huh.

>>18482733 (OP)
Have you heard of aleo vera gel, face oil and face massage stones?
My skin has never looked better.

What moisturizer can I use for my penis?

...and folliculitis on my scalp is back. Once again, I'm going to look like a disgusting piece of shit for about 2 weeks.

I user my cleanser after scrubbing my face with water and now i have chemical burns.

>dollar tree salicylic acid cleanser
>dollar tree niacinimide serum
>dollar tree moisturizer
Bros am I doing this right

are shampoo bars a meme or are there genuinely good ones out there

>>18484659
only if you are older than me, a top, and like to cuddle

>>18482733 (OP)
chart needs to be updated to include healthy diet + avoiding sun + drinking a sufficient amount of water everyday

I'm 36 years old with no wrinkles, no redness, no dark spots, smooth skin

My entire skincare routine consist of washing my face with water once a day in the lukewarm shower.

I attribute my good skin to, eating a home cooked non-processed food diet, exercise, lack of stress, 7-8 hours sleep, avoiding the sun because I barely go outside and leave my curtains closed and also living in a rural area with very low air pollution

Thoughts on me running this copper peptide shit in the morning and then 1% retinol cream at night?

>>18484748
I dont even think thats hair plugs thats literally a wig

>>18485410
lanolin is the only think that touches my penis

>>18484189
I was really thinking about it just because I have 1 single acne scar on my face and I desperately want to get rid of it. The shit just was not cheap enough for me. Like amazon wanted 100 bucks for something which just amounts to some needles tied together. I couldn't justify it

my under eye area is the one area on my face showing signs of aging. I have no crows feet or forehead wrinkles or whatever. Its just the bags under my eyes, dark and puffy. I am already using retinol and doing pretty much all the lifestyle shit you can recommend. Any other products worth considering or is surgery or learn to live with them

plz respond

no

>medicube age-r booster pro
>AGER
dafuq kind of name is that? they couldn't have named it like "antiage-r" or something instead?

Is salycilic acid a trap? It seems to give me pimples most times I use it.

>>18482907
as other anon said skincare is trial and error. there is a small chance that your skin needs adaptation period for a new product though.. some people here broke out from certain products when they introduced it but "small purge" was all it was
>>18483124
>is it a good idea
id consult with derm first
>>18483256
>What Cleanser and Moisturizer should I use when I apply Tretinoin daily?
ones that fit your skin type. for moisturizer in pm you can get something heavier
>Not sure if I should use Cerave or LRP.
company does not matter
>>18483342
shaving after shower was a game changer for me
>>18483844
maybe you are irritating a patch of skin with eczema or sth, try going to derm maybe or post a pic so someone else can help
>>18484104
aveeno fragrance free was posted last thread i think but i would not bother much about quality as it stays on your skin for 5 minutes or whatever and then you wash it off. unless you have some bad experience or specific concerns
>>18484487
my eneven skin texture (little atrophic scars from acne in teenage yers) has been getting better little by little for the past 2 years ive been using retinoids. i think retinoids and vit c serum worked best for me in terms of that. the ordinary 30% chemical peel probably contributes to that too. i notice improvement only every 3-6 months and it is not much but its steady improvement over long term i guess
>brownish taint
no idea sorry. cortizol causes some people to be more "swollen" above their neck but not sure if it can attribute to skin color. consider going to derm
>My messed up sleep schedule is definitely part of the blame which I'm gonna fix but I'm wondering what else I need to do?
maybe post a pic what your skin texture look like, but an opinion from a derm or two would be better

>>18484500
>I paid almost $30 for a new moisturizer and all it did was break me out. I think I'll go back to using Curel
many such cases, happens to all of us
>>18484644
>My skin is retardedly dry but I'm considering getting tretinoin
if its your first retinoid and you are going straight for tret id say maybe start with retinol or your skin will get even more dry and perhaps more fucked in the process
>acne scar texture
if its atrophic scars then anything stimulating collagen production will help (20%+ glycolic acid chemical peels, vitamin c serums but there are different kinds so DYOR, retinoids, copper peptides apparently works and obviously retinoids you mentioned and a few more i missed)
>is there something I could do to have my skin be NOT totally fucked?
lrp cicaplast is great but more as a occlusive, try adding a regular moisturizer (even something like cerave body lotion) before using cicaplast for better hydration
>>18484697
good price/volume for a kbeauty product
>>18484748
damn
>>18485058
never tried it but INCI looks very good. ive recently bought cicafarm revitalizing cream ampoule but havent tried it yet (also great volume and ingredients vs price)
>>18485307
been using aloe vera 99% gel erry day
>>18485410
something for babies perhaps, i would not go with something too oily though
>>18485695
post cleanser
>>18485743
you good but i would switch moisturizer to one that has niacinamide to skip the serum. i am a lazy minimalist when it comes to routine though

>>18485825
you can consult this with curlyhair recs from reddit. they have a list of products somewhere. see if they rec any shampoo bars
>>18486325
looks solid and cheap. short ingredients list too. if the reviews are good, go for it. ive been on the look to try copper peptides myself so i will check if its available in my area, thanks
>>18486396
id go to derm first or check out archives for your options. there was also a video about it on Doctorly youtube channel. basically dark pigment, thin skin (exposing blood vessels which appears dark from afar) and the way light works when you get bags (giving you a shade) are all different from each other. most recommendations you will get will be probably procedures though
>>18487145
i agree, looks counter intuitive. same thing with putting animals on vegan products
>>18487272
some people experience that with any product. this being an exfoliant, i would expect it happening even more. maybe patch test it somewhere else to see if you are allergic to it first

I had some red rashes on my hand but they were not itchy, they now turned brown.
Any reason and treatment for this?

>>18487279
Is vitamin c worth looking into if im already on azelaic acid and tret?

>>18487291
>they now turned brown
see a doc
>>18487517
depends what you are using azelaic acid for and what you want to use vitamin c for. you can use these two together iirc (preferably in am routine) but with tret in pm you might get too much irritation overall. alternating them might be sufficient but it is still a lot for a skin

>>18485410
Coconut oil, fractionated coconut oil, mct oil, cetaphil, cerave (might be a bit thicker than cetaphil, slow to absorb).You dont want to overload your dick cheese production from the extra oil.

>>18487272
It stripped whatever your skin had as protection there before, thus making it more susceptible to bacteria and irritation from the chemicals in your products to fuck shit up, you need to moisturize with the best cream that plays well with your now clean skin.I get irritation even from the basic mineral oil or petroleum based (lanolin, paraffin) and some other supposedly non-comedogenic ingredient after salicylic acid.

kinda feels annoying being hairy during the summer, especially in the balls and ass area. how do men usually remove hair from those areas? hair clippers/trimmers seem kinda scary to use on the balls. I guess it's ok for the ass area (?)

>>18485846
poast yourself

>>18487930
>hair clippers/trimmers seem kinda scary to use on the balls
I just use a disposable razor, years of doing it and I never cut myself.

>>18487946
do you use shaving gel or something?

>>18483454
testosterone is poison

How long do you guys normally wait in between applying product? I've read one anon say wait 30min after applying retinol before putting anything further on, so it got me wondering

Polyglutamic acid?

>>18488364
Retinol is the king of skin care. I would put on my retinol moisturizer before bed and nothing else. If you have other shit you want to work in then do it in the morning or something

How do you niggas feel about refrigerating serums? I have a that have almost no preservatives and I’m worried they’ll spoil before I’m done with them

>>18488482
*have a few

Once again I will try a skincare routine.

>white dove bar and water for cleaning.
Effortless and better then nothing.
I should probably also add a moisterizuer after, wich one should I get or start with?

>>18488670
I live in sweden btw.

>>18488670
Me I cleanse my face with nothing but water and then use a retinol moisturizer before bed. I’m 35 and get carded at bars and people think mid to low 20s

>>18488701
I have heard retinol can fuck up your skin during summer etc, is that true? Else dove bar + retinol moisturizer before bed sounds like a combo.

Cleanser and moisturizer at night, simple as.

>>18488670
E.l.f moisturizer is overall pretty good, but if you can't find, Cerave and Neutrogena have served me pretty well since I've got relatively sensitive skin.

>>18487948
nta but i just use my usual body wash on the balls and then shave the hair off gently
i don't moisturize though
and i definitely wouldn't touch the rest of my pubic area, not even with trimmers
trimming body hair gave me a lot of painful ingrown hair bumps and ugly pih spots in the pubic region before

>>18488731
It just makes it easier to get a burn. There are like no UV rays in Sweden but wear sunscreen if you’re gonna be outside from 10 to 4 or so

can your skin get "addicted" to bp wash?

>>18488364
15-20 minutes or until dry. but if its oil serum after moisturizer or centella serum after washing etc, i dont wait
>>18488385
heard about it recently and seems like its getting more traction, need to do some research on it
>>18488482
been doing that with l-ascorbic based vitamin c serum only. depends on serum/formula/actives really. some serums have airless package and dont care about temperature etc
tldr read the package
>>18488670
post skin type
>>18488731
nta but
>retinol can fuck up your skin during summer etc, is that true?
only if you dont wear sunscreen. everyone uses sunscreen to slow down photoaging though. no point in using retinol without sunscreen even if hypothetically you would not need to
>dove bar + retinol moisturizer before bed sounds like a combo
you must have not heard about 10 step korean skincare routine then. thats a headache and then some
>>18488847
never heard of that. what would be the symptoms of that?

>>18488997
>what would be the symptoms of that?
Miss a day and suddenly break out?

>>18489014
if that was really the case, nobody would use it, no? hypothetically speaking: if you break out after 24h, it means you have some kind of bacteria or fungus that regrows 24h after last usage. not sure if there is such a thing but if it exists, it likely means you are using the wrong treatment to begin with. though some people might jump to anti-jew conclusions when they get a whitehead the next day. probably due to drinking two gallons of whey protein the day before.

bp is also in epiduo which can be used every 2-3 days

I've been redness/flaking/flareup free from seborrheic dermatitis for over a month at this point. That's the longest time without a flareup I've gone in over 15 years. I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop, this can't last forever.

>>18489039
yeah, my skin is not great lately, idk why. I can't even say it's shaving related this time since I don't shave my forehead. I might try the 10% bp cleanser next time

>>18488997
>post skin type
Normal but dry or fat in the T zone I guess.
>korean 10 steps skincare routine
I know about those, but a simpler routine is easier to follow, and a easy routine you follow is better results then some autistic routine I would quiet quit in a week.

Goddamn no matter what I do I can't seem to fully stop whiteheads popping up in my nose-mouth-chin region. I'm already using a gel with adapalene and benzoyl peroxide. Using a moisturising cleanser in the morning and evening (the regular one dried my skin out too much) and use the anthelios sunscreen every day.

>>18489050
you could post your skin issues and routine if you want and someone might help
>>18489065
>korean 10 steps skincare routine
sorry it was just my irony. im sure parts of it are fine but as a whole it is retarded. too many things that just won't work past certain step. i also prefer minimalistic routine
>Normal but dry or fat in the T zone I guess.
cerave pm or maybe the neutrogena hydro boost fragrance free one. also, there are sunscreens that are moisturizers (like cerave am) if it fits your lifestyle

FREAKING OUT this morning because I used shampoo as my cleanser this morning in the shower on accident. Don't know wtf to do my face doesn't feel right

>>18489370
You could start by trying to not be insane and relax

>>18489284
You ever try a clay mask? Look up “Aztec secret” it’s 1 ingredient and I think fairly cheap. That shit will suck the oil out of your face. Then follow it with a good moisturizer

>>18489365
Moisturizers that are sunscreen sounds good, is there any that also have tretionol and I have found my 2 step routine.

I want to sculpt my eyebrows to make them look more straight and “hunter like” but I feel like there is a 75% chance I just look stupid if I do it

>>18485058
Got a face oil from that brand as a gift and it worked so good, I bought the expensive full size. It worked wonders in the winters here. I would definitely trust that particular brand's products. It was my first foray into Korean stuff too, and I was impressed.

>>18489370
my cousin's friend did this and he had to undergo 2 head transplants

>>18489365
>you could post your skin issues and routine if you want and someone might help
I shave my head, and I was getting a lot of folliculitis spots on my scalp, but also on other parts of my face that I shave. They'd show up and stay there for a couple weeks. I started doing the BP wash after shaving each day, and also at night before bed, and that has helped a lot. I still occasionally get red spots/whiteheads around my face though, in spots I don't shave (upper cheeks, nose, forehead). And the other day after I skipped the BP wash before bed, I got 3 red spots the next morning. Two have since gone away already, but one is persisting... I also get acne across my body, like upper back, upper chest, shoulders, etc... so idk what the problem is.

I want to start micro needling because I have a very unfortunate acne scar on my face and I also read if you use it on your scalp and combine with minoxidil you can really thinken your hair.

The problem is that Amazon doesn’t seem to sell a micro needling device that doesn’t look like a Chinese piece of shit. Anybody know of any good or trustworthy ones? I looked into derminator 2 but the website is not working for me and I’d rather just use Amazon

>>18489370
It's fucking over bro, don't look in the mirror you already broke out 5 mins ago by my calculations...

Gonna try to get ease off the BP for now. Let's see if something happens if I don't apply for one night.

>>18482733 (OP)
Is there anything I can do if the sides of my face have been chewed up by chronic lifelong acne?

When are we finally going to make the technology to stop TEWL?
>>18489835
How bad are we talking? Tretinoin is a good starting point.

>>18489835
Yes. Go to a doctor. A lot of the stuff that can help needs a prescription anyway. And after all that you can maybe consider microneedling.

>>18489880
not him but same problem
does microneedling actually help the skin change back to normal? I doubt it, there's scarring

>>18482733 (OP)
Test

>>18484748
I don't have millions of dollars and was not born with good faceg genetics and grew up in a worse world after him

worth buying just for my nose and chin? i feel pretty good about the rest of my face

>>18490133
Yes. Because it's MICRO needling. Causing MICROSCOPIC scarring which heals into new skin.

>>18490421
How should this be placed in a routine?

kate somerville is the real deal... the price is terrible but I've set up alerts on my cunt's version of ebay so I can buy them for cheap

kate somerville is the real deal... the price is terrible but I've set up alerts on my cunt's version of ebay so I can buy them for cheap

>been putting 99% aloe vera gel on my face and it stings
its that 1 fucking percent isnt it

>>18490617 (me)
lol
>Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract, Polysorbate 20, Carbomer, Potassium Hydroxide, Glycerin, Phenoxyethanol, Disodium EDTA, Betaine, Chlorphenesin, Portulaca Oleracea Extract, Butylene Glycol, Alcohol, Ocimum Basilicum (Basil) Leaf Extract, Origanum Vulgare Leaf Extract, Salvia Officinalis (Sage) Leaf Extract, Mentha Viridis (Spearmint) Extract, Melissa Officinalis Extract, Saccharomyces/Caragana Sinica Root Ferment Extract, Simmondsia Chinensis (Jojoba) Seed Extract, Hippophae Rhamnoides Extract, Juglans Regia (Walnut) Seed Extract, Persea Gratissima (Avocado) Fruit Extract, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract, Chamomilla Recutita (Matricaria) Leaf Extract, Urtica Dioica (Nettle) Extract, Sambucus Nigra Fruit Extract, Chrysanthemum Morifolium Flower Extract, Vitex Trifolia Fruit Extract, Thuja Occidentalis Leaf Extract, Cnidium Officinale Root Extract, Angelica Dahurica Root Extract, Asarum Sieboldi Root Extract, Morus Alba Root Extract, Eclipta Prostrata Extract, Perfume.

with .5% retinol is the goal to eventually use it daily or less than that?

>>18489850
>>18489880
Like my upper cheeks have large patches of pock mark scars

I went to this place in my local shopping center called "Changes Clinic" and they do botox and sell retinol and tretinoin. I made an appointment to disucss getting tretinoin and today I went in and met with the specialist and I told her I wanted tretinoin for under eye wrinkles. She told me that they don't give tretinoin for under eye wrinkles because "tretinoin is too strong and can damage the thin skin under the eyes" and she wanted to sell me a "medical grade retinol" in her words. I told her I already use retinol but she said the retinol they have is better than the OTC retinol. They also wanted me to buy this box with moisturiser and other shit in it. I said I wasn't interested and just left. Are they scammers?

>>18490718
I use 1% every day.

>>18490749
Under eyes are the worst fucking place to have problems you can’t do shit about it. She is right because the shit would likely just lead to eye irritation and make your under eyes look worse with you rubbing them and crushing blood vessels and shit.

It seems like the only solutions are temporary. Like cold compress and then hit it with witch hazel and then use a little makeup.

Or get surgery

Are there any products for bloated/swollen face?
I'm not fat, but I feel my face is swollen all the time and it's the part I sweat the most at in the summer, so it looks even worse. I know about the most important things being a good sleep schedule, hydration and avoiding eating too much slop. I also use min so it probably contributes to the problem.

Rate my routine, im pretty new to this.
First, i have the basics covered: hydratation, non processed food, no cigs/alcohol, no drugs, avoid stress, sleeping at least 7h, not going on the sun wo suncreen, avoid sun at all. My routine is:
>water based cleasening, dont use makeup so i didnt choose an oil one, when i feel like
>vitamin c serum with cafeine once day
>non comedogenic moisturizer twice day
>granactive retinoid 2-3 times per week

I think this specific serum is causing me acne so i might change it. My skin is oily, so maybe i should have a oil cleasening. Also i was learning about korean approach, and, you might think it is bullshit but i like their approach. So i want to try some products. My skin looks kinda red on some parts, i think i have rosacea, so if any rec.

I know retinol and vit c are the most important, but i have money to spend so i want to try more than that.

>>18490844
Sounds like a deeper health issue to me, bloated face usually means high cortisol from chronic stress or medication. Or maybe just due to high sodium diet making your body retain more water. Try getting in more potassium, magnesium, the stuff electrolyte made of aside from the sodium to rebalance if your salt intake is already low.

Just finished a 0.6% retinol bottle, should I move up to 1%? Anyone had a good experience with any retinol brands available in UK/Europe?

>>18491008
how does one lower cortisol? decreasing stress is kinda not an option

what body wash do you guys use

>30 y/o
>lucky throughout my life by not having acne
>only issue is oily skin+hair from my mother's side of the family
Routine right now is
>neutrogena hydroboost gel wash
>creave ultra-light moisturizing gel
>SPF 30 sunscreen that's re-applied as needed
>blotting paper as needed
>at night wash again with the hydroboost gel
>salicylic acid astringent
>0.5% retinol serum
>uriage cica repairing cream
>physical exfoliant with AHA/BHA product every week
r8h8apreci8
I have come to the realization that I am developing those hideous nasolabial folds from my father's side of the family. I know that there's nothing you can do about them other than filler or surgery, but is there any other product I can add to my routine to at least slow down the folds?
>inb4 no
Oh well.

>>18490844
>>18491008
allergies were making my face swell/puffy. claritin fixed it.
>>18491241
consistent good diet and exercise
no smoking or drinking
8hr of sleep at the same time every night
self-care time like reading, watching tv, walks, etc.

>>18491541
cerave hydrating cleanser bar, but the body wash version is good too, just different format.

>>18488997
what does centella serum do?
I current have
Cleanse > Moisturize > BHA cosrx stack.
Should I incorporate this into my routine?
I'm currently trying to fix blemishes on my face and I have these bumps that don't hurt on my nose that don't seem to go away even after years.

>>18490488
Any cleanser/soap is first in order, it preps the skin for actual product application

Hey all, I've got sensitive/oily skin and I'm currently trying to get rid of facial acne. At the moment I use Cetaphils oil control cleanser, paula's choice salycilic acid toner, and that oil control spf moisturizer. What should I change?

I've been using retinol for ages and it isn't doing shit for wrinkles. Will tretinoin be any better?

Tfw just got my first set of Shiseido
Cleanser, moisturizer, serum, sunscreen (and the eye cream)
Literally perfect products
I don’t wear cosmetics so it’s not like I’m spending money on concealer/foundation
Just perfect skin
It’s a solved game

I seriously cannot for the life of me figure out how to get rid of my fucking beard dandruff
I've tried sebhorric dermatitis ointments, beard oils, tree oil dandruff shampoo, beard balms, shaving it all off to clean the skin better, even washing my face multiple times a day believe it or not
And despite everything I still wake up every goddamn day to find more fuckugly disgusting huge flakes falling off my face and it makes me want to blow my fucking brains out
I'll do fucking anything at this point, man

>>18492303
I fucking forgot to mention exfoliating scrubs that are also doing jack shit

>>18492204
Too bad shiseido likes to change their product's formulas at random resulting in an inferior product, and will discontinue product lines without warning without any sort of replacement. I used to splurge on one nice moisturizer until above happened, what a disappointment.

>>18491651
Bumping! Should I add a peroxide maybe to help?

>>18491651
I found that whenever I used a product that claimed "oil control", they were actually the problem by drying me out, causing more oil production, leading to more acne. It could be one of those products are drying you out too much, especially since you are also using a SA toner. I'm no professional, but try a hydrating face wash or use a heavier hydrating lotion or cream, at least at night. You can also try a low dose benzoyl peroxide, but that can be quite drying too. Good luck anon.

Should I avoid the sun at all costs?

>>18493174
Nah. Despite what everyone says the sun is good for you. Just don’t let yourself get burned on your face. I wear a low spf on my face but never the rest of my body. I think the sun has health benefits science doesn’t even understand yet. But of course almost everyone is vit D deficient and fixing that alone can make you way more healthy. It shouldn’t even be called a vitamin, it’s a straight up hormone and affects your whole body.

Ancient wisdom since the Greek times said that being naked outside made men stronger. It absolutely increasss testosterone and has a profound affect on your mental state. Anecdotally I have seen time in the sun cure my anxiety and give me a way more Chad attitude about life. There is a reason “basement dweller” is both a whole phenotype and type of person personality wise as well. Go outside bro

>>18482733 (OP)
I've been using this alum for years as deodorant and it's been great so far, Can I use this type of alum as my aftershave?

I've switched to a new deodorant, some Mitchum stuff. It works well but leaves my armpits sticky. Like… as I try to shower the next time after applying it, my hand will literally stick to my armpit as though I had glue in there. The fuck Is going on?
Also, if haircare falls under this category, my hair is Asian IE super thick and super straight and I'm having difficulty getting leave-in conditioner down to my scalp because of it unless I keep my hair short. It's currently nearly mid-back but I wear it in a manbun/samurai bun. Any recs on a good leave-in?

>>18490844
>>18491241
see a doc mate
>>18490876
looks good
>My skin looks kinda red on some parts, i think i have rosacea, so if any rec.
thought i had rosacea 2 years ago and turned out it was not, i was recommended laser treatment by derm though. so if you want you can go for azelaic acid but id double check and/or go to derm to confirm
>So i want to try some products
>I know retinol and vit c are the most important, but i have money to spend so i want to try more than that.
just be sure to get what your skin needs. build solid fundamental routine (cleanser, spf, retinoid, maybe moisturizer) and experiment from there
>>18491050
i think the ordinary is recommended often but never tried. i went for prescription retinoids after my first retinol
>>18491541
treaclemoon lol
>>18491566
all good, but i was recommended spf50 when using retinoids. also i would switch exfoliant to a purely chemical one
>any other product I can add to my routine to at least slow down the folds?
whatever boosts collagen production (high % glycolic acid peels, vitamin c, maybe stronger retinoids if you can get any)
>>18491582
i had purito unscented centella serum, it was slightly hydrating but most importantly it helped with irritation (too much retinoids/actives etc). you can read more about its effects online, i think it even has some anti-aging properties but probably not much
>Cleanse > Moisturize > BHA cosrx stack.
wrong order, use bha before moisturizing. i wonder if it worked at all going through that moisturizer
>Should I incorporate this into my routine?
id go for retinol and add spf if you are leaving anywhere during the day (mandatory when using retinoids)

>>18491651
>>18492918
id go for retinol first and see how that works for you. i might rec retinoids too often in these threads but it is essential and fundamental ingredient of any skincare routine (if you can use and you tolerate it).
if you are still interested in benzoyl peroxide consider going to derm for epiduo. or start retinol, give it a few weeks, see how it goes and maybe then add BP in the morning. but yeah id take retinoids first over any active there is out there
>>18492122
probably but it depends on your age too, hydration and a few other things like healthy lifestyle
>>18492303
>dandruff
well if its caused by fungus there are a few actives that are worth trying to fight it off. that would be ketoconazole (nizoral for example), selenium sulfide, piroctone olamine or ciclopirox olamine.
i went through these for my hair. the last one worked best. derm told me to keep using it. i also learned that i shouldnt use shampoo too often, every day is too much. and that they shouldnt be too harsh.
>I'll do fucking anything at this point, man
you could also see a doc and see what he will say
>>18493174
nope
>>18493254
sure, but it stings
>>18493261
>leaves my armpits sticky
maybe try alum block like >>18493254
>Any recs on a good leave-in?
look for r/curly recs, there is a spreadsheet somewhere with curly's approved hair products and it might be a good starting point

>>18493275
>alum
k.
>>18493275
>r/curly recs
k.
Danke, Freunde.

Did any of you ever have strawberry skin? How did you get rid of it?

>>18493272
>i was recommended spf50 when using retinoids. also i would switch exfoliant to a purely chemical one
Thanks, will do
>whatever boosts collagen production (high % glycolic acid peels, vitamin c, maybe stronger retinoids if you can get any)
I have been using and buying the same retinol serum for nearly a year now so I guess it's time to graduate to something higher. I'll try out a vitamin C product too. Thanks anon.