/balding/ and /finasteride/ general - hair is love, hair is life!
Sticky: http://tuxbell.com/index.php/Balding

Reminder that if you can clearly see down to your scalp when your hair is wet, your hair is thinning, lots of small new hairs sprouting at the hairline or crown is a sign of hair recession.

Holy trinity:
Tabs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finasteride
Lotion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoxidil
Shampoo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketoconazole

Finasteride/Dutasteride are 5-alpha reductase inhibitors that prevent free T from being converted to DHT, a byproduct of testosterone that serves no purpose after puberty but to choke out your hair follicles and make them thin out and die in a few short years, a condition known as androgenic alopecia.
5ar inhibitors prevent your hair from getting any worse, mild regrowth is expected, rapid onset diffuse thinners see a significant recovery on fin alone. Can be taken orally or topically.
5ARIs are not dosage dependent, taking as little as as 0.2mg daily fin can reduce serum DHT by 68%, while 5mg reduces by 72%.
0.5mg daily dut reduces serum DHT by 95%, but is considered a second line treatment, and can be more expensive and harder to get prescribed. Start with fin.

Fin has been used to treat benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) for 30+ years, it's very well studied and is tolerated well in almost all men, however, there's a 1-2% risk of erectile issues in controlled studies.
These can be avoided by reducing dosage, spacing out dosage, or stopping the drug. Fin takes days to fully bio-accumulate, the half life of fin is about 8 hours, adverse effects occuring within minutes of starting fin or persisting long after stopping fin are not real and have no basis in reality. Please note that dut has a much higher half-life of 5 weeks, if you're prone to fin sides, dut may cause them for far longer.
Refer to https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3481923/ before responding to PFS trolls.

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Minoxidil (liquid and tabs) is a vasodialator that opens potassium channels and widens blood vessels bringing nutrients to your hair follicles, stimulating them into thickening, accelerating growth and elongating the growth phase. Min is taken with fin to restore your hair to it's original hairline, thickness and vigor when hair loss is caught early enough, (pre-NW2). Can be taken orally or topically.

Topical min does not work in 1/3 of men because they lack the required enzymes in their scalp, all men have this enzyme in their liver so the oral route is a good fallback.
The FDA formulation for 5% liquid minoxidil is food safe (vape juice, ethanol and water) and can be safely taken orally if oral min tabs are expensive or rarely prescribed where you live. As a general rule, ~4 drops (0.1ml) = 5mg minoxidil.
There's a 1-2% risk of fluid retention with higher oral dosages, start with the lowest dosage possible and work your way up when you're sure it's well tolerated.

Ketoconazole is an anti-androgen and antifungal that inhibits DHT on the scalp and used to treat fungal infections of the scalp that may be making your hair loss worse such as seborrheic dermatitis, a condition where you exhibit severe greasy, flaky large dandruff flakes with dried yellow crystals (blood plasma) embedded in the scalp. Some people may only have traction alopecia (hair loss from scratching or friction), but it will not cure androgenic alopecia on it's own. Can only be taken topically.

Do not use spirolactone. Spirolactone is a diuretic which, in large doses, inhibits testosterone and, by extension, DHT.
It is regularly prescribed as an anti-androgen for male to female HRT, and thus, comes with an astronomically higher risk of sexual side effects in men including ED, gynecomastia, and can cause potassium toxicity.

Previous thread: >>18480968

These are long term treatments which require consistent and continued use to see results. You need to be patient when expecting hair regrowth and everybody responds differently.

A general timeframe for results from Minoxidil:
- Initial shed 2 weeks to a month into treatment. This will mark the beginning stage of the treatment working. Some people shed often and repeat this process for the first year some only once. This is known as the "Dread shed".
- Regrowth ~3 month mark at the earliest is a realistic time in which you may be able to notice hair thickening after the initial shed. Results will continue to improve and stabilize after upwards of a year or so.


A general timeframe for results from Finasteride/Dutasteride:
-A month of prescribed use will result in proper accumulation of the medication in your cellular tissue. At this point the medication will be working optimally.
-Many people experience a similar initial shed like with Minoxidil. It usually begins within the first month, alternatively some people get the initial shed after or around the 1 year mark.
-Regrowth can begin around the ~6 month mark however most results will be apparent after upwards of 2+ years of treatment.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9951956/

every time i feel like im having a good day i remember im balding

is this a mature hairline or am I balding? Im 32.

>>18489244
looks normal to me. just keep an eye on it

After 15 years of balding, I took a fin pill for the first time. Actually half a pill because I'm a big pussy. My hair looks like this right now. Diffuse all over with little actual receding.

>take min for a couple of years
>stop for 5 years
>start again with oral
>no regrowth in the areas i had it last time

Don't make my mistake

>>18489272
did most of it grow back when you quit the first time?

does dutasteride and minoxidil help with diffuse thinning? my vertex and parietal areas have thinned really bad and i don't see much regrowth, although (6 months of 2.5 mg) dutasteride has helped reduce hair fall significantly

>>18489244
its over buddy boyo that is 45 year old mafia unc hairline

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>>18489128
>Regrowth can begin around the ~6 month mark
I've asked this before but never got an answer. How on earth did I start growing a bunch of new hairs around the hairline like two weeks after starting to use topical finasteride? Is it just a massive coincidence where a bunch of my follicles randomly entered anagen phase around the time I started using fin?

>grow tiddies or go bald
being male is suffering

my NW2->1 is still in progress after 3mo, hoping for a nice hairline by the end of the year
>>18489466
fuck off tranny shill

>>18489264
if youre lucky you could regrow all that. diffuser thinners get some crazy regrowth.

Does anything help for diffuse thinning on the sides of the head or am I cooked? I've been on fin for 18 months with no improvements in that area.

>>18489421
Hyper-responder/Unrelated to fin. As long as you aren't losing hair then it's a good thing whatever the cause.

>>18489497
Thinning outside of the main balding pattern like on the sides of the head is probably the result of hair loss from another condition though it can in rare cases affect those areas. You can have both male pattern baldness and something else going on like a thyroid issue.

>>18489244
Mature hairline is a myth. You are a NW2 maybe slightly further along. Your progression may be slow and be serviceable for years, or it may rapidly progress or somewhere in-between.

Early to mid 20s is the first hurdle of rapid onset balding, your 30s are equally as dangerous if you made it there with subtle or no loss previously.

So yes you are clearly balding, you weren't born with a NW2. How bad and how fast it goes from here is to be determined. If you want to keep it that way act now, otherwise it's up to fate and you may not be able to return to this stage should it progress and you decide to act on it then rather than now.

>>18489303
Yes those are optimal for regrowth. I would increase the minoxidil to 2.5mg 2x a day or 5mg 1x for better results as your current dose is the lowest recommended. If those areas experienced follicle death (5 ish years of untreated thinning) then unfortunately no medication as of right now can bring those back.

>>18489527

this is a NW2, this guy >>18489244 has a tall forehead, but the hair on the top of his head is still squarely shaped. He's a NW1 at worst.

>>18489540
Those temples are textbook nw2. Not every hairline has uniform recession

>>18489518
My doctor had me take a blood test before prescribing fin and it came back clear, so (un)fortunately it doesn't look like anything else I can fix. I think the test was checking for thyroid issues like you mentioned and common markers of malnutrition but everything was within normal levels.

>>18489553
Post a picture of the area if you can so we can get a better idea

it's over.

I finally gave in and purchased fin. I have been scared for years about the side effects, but today I felt like taking the gamble. I'm not sure yet if I should take 1mg daily or split the pills in half and take 0.5mg daily instead, but I'm leaning more towards the latter because I am still nervous about the side effects. Also not sure if I should be starting min at the same time or wait a few months/a year before starting, if anyone has any advice on that it would be much appreciated. I'm 21 by the way for reference. Wish me luck.

>>18489630
Take it as prescribed and forget about it like the millions of men across the world who don't even know side effects are supposed to be a thing. Do yourself a favor and never return to this thread or any like it.

>>18489630
>>18489633
In your case definitely start with min as well. I doubt fin alone would be enough regrowth especially since you've said this is years in the making.

>>18489636
why shouldn't he just take fin to start with? fin might be enough. wouldn't worst case scenario just be some wasted time and he can just take min later?

>>18489636
The dread shed is more tolerable when you're on min because the bounceback is like 3 weeks to a instead of 3 months.

>>18489639
At 21 you don't want to be waiting around for years potentially with hair like that lol. I was thinking the more immediate results would take away some of the worry about side effects, less likely to nocebo yourself knowing you're going to lose these gains.

>>18489555
Right side and left side. It doesn't look as sparse when I let my hair grow some more but it's still visibly thin.

>>18489645
New airpods looking kinda funky.

>>18489644
but having to take it for the rest of your life sucks especially if its not needed. i dont see any reason why he can't wait 3 - 6 months to see how fin goes for him

>>18489650
it doesn't even cost that much, i'm sure you spend $100 a year on stupider things, a transplant will cost far more

>>18489630
I waited a long time until jumping on fin too and it turned out I had zero side effects. Just take the recommended 1mg dose and forget about it. There's a high probability you won't be inconvenienced in any way. I also second the other anon's suggestion to start with fin only, in case that's enough. Why be stuck taking 2 pills for life when maybe 1 is sufficient?

>>18489645
Looks like retrograde alopecia. Did you get diagnosed with AGA? Could also just be naturally thin, or from repeatedly sleeping on that side of your head. Is there something constantly touching or rubbing against your head, or touching it yourself out of habit? Try an anti-fungal shampoo and switch up the one you are currently using, minoxidil would fill this in if you determine it's hormonal, otherwise try to figure out if there is some kind of external physical stress factor.

>>18489650
I would personally throw everything at hair like this if I was only 21 regardless if it's being impatient or not.

>>18489633
>>18489636
>>18489639
>>18489640
>>18489644
>>18489650
>>18489653
>>18489654
>>18489658
Thanks for the advice everyone, I feel more comfortable about taking fin now. Also regarding min, I have two cats and I read that even just a tiny bit of contact can be enough to kill them, so if I do get min it's going to be oral and not topical, but I also read that oral min can have very strong side effects compared to topical (e.g. heart and chest pain). To the guy saying I should start min at the same time as fin, would you still recommend it given this caveat?

>>18489666
Just buy topical liquid and take it orally, it comes in a sealed bottle, there's no danger of cats licking your head or your pillow if you use it orally.

Because of the possibility of heart/chest pain, you should start with the lowest dose possible and ramp up after you're sure it's not causing sides, eg. 1 drop, then 2, then 4, etc.
2.5-5mg is the usual dosage.
It's also the cheapest med because even one single 60 day supply OTC bottle will last a whole year if taken this way.

>>18489666
Yeah if you get problems just don't take it anymore, its not gonna kill you.

>>18489527
that's BARELY a NW2, what the fuck are you going on about

>>18489666
look out for facial bloating/puffiness/water retention too, usually starts showing after about a week

>>18489774
A NW2 isn't balding? What's your point

looking good to me
my hairline looks a bit odd now it's fuzzy

Anyone here on dutasteride that has or had acne
Did it help?
I'm Norwood 2 but thinking of getting on it if it'll help my skin
I don't want to do accutane again

I'm using topical finasteride. Will applying minoxidil to beard only cause me to lose hair on my head, and will it cause a shedding phase?

3.5 months on fin and I've noticed no regrowth. Is it time to add topical min?

>>18490064
You usually don't see any effect until a year or two in because the hair cycle takes a long time. 3.5 months is an unrealistic timeline.

How does one even find a good hair transplant surgeon? I want to go to a European one rather than doing meme shit like Turkey, but even then it's so hard to separate the good ones from the frauds given the extent of shilling in this industry.

>>18490064
>>18490087
this >>18489801 is 3 months of 0.25mg fin + 5% min

>>18489977
Not generally but it could happen. Be aware of areas your face (with minox on it) touches. You could transfer it to a pillow for example and then have your hair touch that area. You should expect a shed on your beard though it's not guaranteed.

Is this recession/thinning?

Is it over boys? 25 yo here

>>18490316
Yes

>>18490318
Hard to tell because it could just be how you groom your hair. What's the hairline line? How's the density? My hair kinda look like yours and I'm thinning so maybe you are too but I can't say for sure yet.

>>18490316
Totally. You should have a clear hairline and not this tapering off of hair.

Anyone tried topical dut here?

>>18490341
>>18490321
You think dht blockers would let some of it grow back?

>>18490347
Only one way to find out but assume that fin is only going protect the hair that didn't fall off yet because most people only stabilize their balding

How does dut compare to fin in terms of sides?

>>18490388
they're the same, very low T men are more likely to get sides from 5aris because the increased testosterone just aromatizes to estrogen

>>18490412
Are you speaking from experience?

Does anyone else drink topical minox ? I've been taking 4-6 drops everyday in the morning before breakfast and my shedding (both beard and head) is insane

any other progress?

>>18490456
Shedding makes it sound like it's working for you. How long did it take before the shedding started? I started two weeks ago with 2-3 drops a day, so no naturally no results yet.

>>18490318
If you're doing a frontal combover at 25 then yes it's over. Every guy who has experienced balding to any degree can see what you're doing from a mile away. With how relevant balding has become in recent years I wouldn't be surprised if women can detect it too.

>>18490654
women will never tell you you're balding because they think it's normal

>>18490500
oh yea 2 weeks in I didn't see that much of a change
after one month I started to find a ton of hair in the bed, when scratching, etc

I started at the beggining of may and now my girl (which I haven't told her yet) mentioned that I have a ton of new small hairs on my scalp

>>18490456
You’re going to give yourself a heart attack, 1drop of minox is more than the amount of minox in a pill

>>18490886
Stop being stupid, the blood pressure dosage starts at 40mg and goes up from there, each individual drop is 1.25mg.
Unless you mean the whole dropper filled to 1ml which is 50mg of Minoxidil.

>>18490654
lol how has balding become "relevant" in recent years

>>18490947
It's in vogue to not be balding more so than ever before. It's the butt of like a million contemporary jokes and women are actively given the ick by it and will tell you as much with their new empowered status. Unless you live under a rock you have almost certainly been exposed to the topic of balding and how it is big bad in 2025

Had norwood 4, started dut+min 8mo ago, fall probably stopped, minimal increase in the areas were i was losing hair. Took dut only 3 times/week, zero side effects like depression or erection problems. Then i did an implant.
What i recommend is to start the medicine as soon as you go NW2 and get implant earlier, dont wait too much like me.

>>18490316
you should start dut+min right now
>>18490318
doesnt look that bad, but you need a better haircut
>>18489630
medicine wont regrow your hair and hariline, go for an implant asap, and keep taking the meds
>>18489244
balding or not doesnt matter because the hairline is good. You wont benefit at all from implant to fill the small lateral pockets, also it will give you a feminine hairline. If you notice a small receding over months, then start dut+min.
>>18490095
Just browse their ig page, see reviews, reviews on reddit and thats it. I saw a lot of non shill real people getting excelent results from now hair time. Reddit calls now hair time a hair mill so, as you can see, trust your intuition and choose a doctor that has a solid results on portfolio and does the surgery himself. Find the average price in your contry and avoid choosing someone charging below avg.
Also no doctor is God and the final result depends on your case, how your body responds and so on. Someone with NW2 can go to a backstreet clinic and get a better result than a NW5 billionaire paying the best and most expesive doctor in the planet. So dont bother trying to find the "perfect clinic".

>>18491261
A good doctor will explain that lowering the hairline is generally a bad idea and opt to augment what you currently have by increasing density and nothing more. It would should be a red flag if that doctor is indulging your hair goals without walking back anything for your own benefit.

>>18491268
yeah, never choose a doctor that ovepromises, feels too much like a salesperson and so
let him draw the hairline and dont come like you know better, asking for a very low hairline from google images
In my case he had to lower it, because i completely lost my hairline, almost clean on the top. So thats why it is important to go earlier. If you lose too much hair on top, it wont be possible to get back crazy volume overall.
Anyway, even if you end up with suboptimal volume, a not so low hairline you will still look better than bald or that bullshit of shaved head.

>>18491268
eh, I don't think so. I'd rather get back a NW1 and usffer the consequences at 60. in asia they exclusively do NW1s for example and that doesnt mean theyre unethical doctors.

>>18491296
That guy didnt have his hairline lowered. His forelock and surrounding area only had density added. This is what it looks like when you recreate a hairline in most cases

>>18491305
this is a turkroach botchjob a talented person could work with it.

>>18491306
Any doctor worth going to will tell you the same thing I am. Don't come crying to me when your shit gets fucked up

>>18491296
>I don't think so. I'd rather get back a NW1 and usffer the consequences at 60
Well, that was exactly my idea. I wanted to enjoy my 30s looking the best possible and fuck having or not decent hair at fucking 50.
Althought instead of saying to the doctor, oh make me look 15yo, make me NW-1, i want my hairline 1in from my eyebrows... i just let him do his job and i liked the hairline he created. Then i just accepted that instead of oh, can you lower it 1cm extra?
I think it depends on your face, head shape, the haircut you plan to use and etc. Your example, an asian guy, they look younger for longer. Depending on your age, i dont think you will benefit that much from the lowest hairline ever, since you wont be able to pull off a boyish haircut anyway.

>>18491305
Shouldnt he use bangs or something? Why every man that gets an implant goes for this same combed back haircut? Would be better to comb the hair to the front to hide the imperfections?

I'm 18 years old and I'm already balding. I've been on fin for a little bit more than a month and I still wake up with hair on my pillow. I've been on topical min for about 6 months, but obviously, it doesn't stop the balding. Is it a bad idea to start taking two 1mg fin pills at a time? I really don't want to go bald.

>>18491326
Ideally yeah but the people who seek out these ridiculous procedures are doing it because they want you to know they have a "perfect" hairline. They are not satisfied with simply maintaining a realistic hairline which doesn't get worse.

>>18491335
>bit more than a month
Not enough time to have an effect
>Is it a bad idea to start taking two 1mg fin pills at a time
It won't help because DHT suppression pretty much caps at 1mg
Also your hair quality is terrible. How are you taking care of it? How do you shower, what products do you use, etc.?

>>18491335
see the parts where instead of thinning hair you have bare skin? thoses areas are gone, no medicine will put back. Only an implant. The areas where you ahve thinning, with luck, you can increase density using dut and min.
Wait at least 6 mo for any result. Increasing the dosage wont help, besides increasing the odds of side effects. Also take 0.5mg dutasteride instead of finasteride. Do not take it everyday.
>I'm 18 years old and I'm already balding
Well, i started balding at 16, at 18 had way worse hairline than you. Some people just have cursed genes. At least it is not some rare autoimune disease.

>>18491341
>Not enough time to have an effect
I know it's not going to totally stop in a month, but it should've lessened a fair amount, no? I don't know, maybe I'm being too hasty---but hair loss so early is really despairing to witness and I'm panicking.
>How are you taking care of it? How do you shower, what products do you use, etc.?
I dont really take care of it too well (I wash my hair every other day or so, and I use some shitty 2-in-1 body wash thing). I genuinely wasnt thinking about how I actually took care of it until you mentioned that. I feel so retarded, I'm going to look into actually using something decent.

almost 2 months on Dutasteride now and I am starting to shed quite a lot more than ever before

I don't know if it has to do with the fact that I grew my hair out and had a buzz cut, but I literally never noticed shedding before on Fin. Even when I took out a piece of blank paper in front of me, dipped me head down and vigorously combined hair hands through it I only got 2-3 hairs at most. Now I can casually dig out clumps of 5-10 hairs.

I'm noticing too that it's 95% hairs that are already miniaturized and smaller compared to my full 3 inch length follicles. Not sure if this is a good or bad thing.

>>18491191
I've had a shaved head for years and have not noticed a difference. But I don't put myself in situations where I can be rejected, I only pursue if I get hints.

>>18491384
Thats dellusion. It always been a big detractor, and now more than ever, since women hivemind see bald man as almost non human.
It is not impossible to find a gf being bald but the difficult increases at least 50x times.

>>18491393
What's the delusion? Literally nothing has changed. Would I get more girls with hair? Yes, but I already got used to it years ago. Latinas will still fuck me so I don't care.

>>18491352
You need to have patience. I know it sounds counter productive but just shave your head so you stop checking

>>18491378
That's good right? The small ones are falling out and being replaced by the regular ones.

>>18491410
that's what I hope is happening

>>18491378
How's the sides ? Did you try fin before dut? How do they compare ?

I'm getting a hair transplant in Turkey next week. I'm kind of nervous desu. Anything I should know beforehand?

>>18491261
>>18490321
>>18490341
Ok I just got prescribed fin

>>18491539
if you have to ask that NOW, a fucking WEEK before going there the chances are that youre completely clueless and have booked an absolute butcher who got his md from an indian diploma mill. turkey can be great for transplants but you need to research it well beforehand which you obviously have not done.

>>18491378
minoxidil has been proven to cause a shed due to how it effecyour hair cycles, but fin/dut shed is a myth. there is zero evidence for it in any drug trials / studies. either youre being extra neurotic and mistake normal shedding for an induced shed or then something else is wrong.

FIN AND DUT DO NOT CAUSE SHEDDING! THERE IS LITERALLY ZERO EVIDENCE FOR IT!

I don't know If I can cope that this shedding is a summer thing anymore. My shit started diffusing HARD suddenly, what the fuck is going on?

>>18491748
You’re stressed and probably sleeping during the day. You’re also probably living an unnatural sedate lifestyle.

Try living organically for a while. Take a digital detox.

>>18491788
Can you faggot hippies get lost? This is a MEDMAXXING thread. Not so long ago you retards would have been laughed off this site

>>18491788
I've actually massively improved my lifestyle lately so this doesn't track. Also a digital detox is impossible considering everything from work to play revolves around using my pc, but I'm not terminally online -ie sns/4chan doomscrolling- if that's what you're referring to.

>>18491701
The absence of DHT affecting the hair is the reason. If you believe Fin/Dut regrow hair then you must understand that a shedding phase preceded regrowth. Lack of DHT = follicles entering anagen phase = hairs shed to resync = regrow thicker over multiple synchronized sheds. Its more so the result of the hormonal change than the active ingredient in the medication. Either way you are wrong.

>>18491748
It's always just a shed no matter how bad it looks. Its not always related to the weather or time of year either. Dont switch meds, don't mess with dosages, just stick with it and put a hat on.

>>18491539
Now hair time?
>Anything I should know beforehand?
I wont spoiler what happens on the day because it will be counterproductive.

>>18491261
>Just browse their ig page, see reviews, reviews on reddit and thats it. I saw a lot of non shill real people getting excelent results from now hair time. Reddit calls now hair time a hair mill so, as you can see, trust your intuition and choose a doctor that has a solid results on portfolio and does the surgery himself. Find the average price in your contry and avoid choosing someone charging below avg.
I have a norwood 3. My plan is to take fin for a year to see if I can thicken up my hairline and prevent further recession, then book a doctor in Europe at ~4€ per graft, go through a further 6 months to a year of fin while chilling on a waiting list and then get a relatively conservative but thicc transplant with 2000-3000 grafts to lower my hairline enough that I'm still obviously receding but can pull off regular hairstyles somewhat fine.
Does that sound like a reasonable expectation?

>>18491844
there has never been one single (1) study that hhas any evidence for your headcanon.

>>18491966
Yeah start the meds rn.
>then book a doctor in Europe at ~4€ per graft, go through a further 6 months to a year of fin while chilling on a waiting list
Unnecessary.
During my research i noticed that docs that charge more arent necessary making consistently better results. IMO the final result is most on the charactheristics of the patient that the doctor.
Focus on finding a doc with years of experience, that does the procedure himself, browse his portfolio and thats it. After that, it doesnt matter if you plan to book some doc in london that charges 3 million with a whishlist of 3 years or some indian sir in the slums of mumbai that charges 1/10000th that. You can get good results even in india, dont worry.
Also check ig reels and tiktok to find real people who went to the clinic you plan.
For example, reddit hivemind hates now hair time in turkey. They say that if you not a celeb they will do a bad job. Well, i saw many normal people from my country getting excelent results from now hair time in tiktok.
When i started searching i had this idea of more expensive = better, but soon i realized thats just bias.

Last year i did a non plastic surgery with a doc charging 1/10 of another doc and everything went perfect. It is all about his experience and portfolio, not price or location.

>>18489024 (OP)
Post-Finasteride Syndrome is real.

>tfw Fin is not working
Why am I being punished like this

>>18492202
Nocebo is also real

>>18489024 (OP)
I been doing topical min like 2 months and I can see tiny baby hairs on my hairline. I think I'm gonna make it bros.

>My hair is so long and thick that it's hard to get my topicals on now

>>18492336
taking min alone is just like pouring water in a bucket with a hole.

How hard would consuming <900 calories daily affect my hair?

>>18492617
massive weight loss often leads to shock hair loss if "my 600 lbs life" is anything to go by

>mfw derm suggests switching from fin to dut without me even mentioning

got 3 packs, I think I was losing ground anyway after 2 yrs on fin

Would you say I can save my hair? I am 38

How fucked am I? Should I get on fin/min?

My father, brother and mom's dad have full heads of hair wtf. Feel like this came out of nowhere

>>18489630
Shit, I basically have this same NW level at 21 too, mine started at 16

>>18492674
you can probably just do fin for now. add min later if you don't see regrowth. no sense doing min if you dont need it because you would have to use min nearly every day for the rest of your life or until you or until better treatment comes out and some people get side effects from it anyway

>>18492677

Looks a lot worse post shower, hair not covering

On a scale of 1-10 how bad is this and can I still get back to normal?

>>18492682

Forgot pic

>>18492684
people have recovered from worse, everyone reacts to it differently so results vary.

>>18492682
It's more relevant how soon you treat it versus how bad it looks. You can reasonably expect to get enough density back to the point where simple styling would make that undetectable. There is a chance you could completely recover too though would require some luck. That being said any improvement or simply halting it is better than letting it get worse.

>too scared to start fin

>>18492828
I went straight to 2.5mg duta lol

>>18492828
Don’t do it. It’s an unnatural chemical that affects your hormones.

90% of balding is stress. You’re living an unnatural life which is internally killing you. Return to the 1990s and unplug from this fake world. Don’t live like a caged rat. Live like a human.

>>18492934
Romans were balding over 2000 years ago. Do you have to live like a literal caveman?

>>18492675
Mine also started at around 15-16. I took oral min for the first time yesterday and my fin will be delivered today. All the men in my family are bald, I am hoping that at the very least I can preserve the amount of hair I have now when I reach my 30s and beyond.

>>18492961
Look at the ones who were balding. They were either old enough to bald, lived stressful lives in politics, or were unhealthy and fat.

Look at youth. They usually play outside on playgrounds and in tree forts constantly moving with free-spirited fun with full heads of hair. The same for the athletic teenagers. They are happy and always moving rather than being inside all day playing video games and playing pretend. They are also being social which is good for mental health.

>>18493024
and all those balding athletes should just exercise more

>>18492828
honestly people who are so neurotic that they are scared of fucking finasteride should just accept living as bald cucks. definitely never get on the meds because its people like you who gaslight yourselves into experiencing a million nocebo "side effects" and then campaign to have ot banned for everyone.

>>18492670
You're the anti-fin schizo who filled the entire /fa/ catalog with anti-fin threads.

>>18493054
Nice try schizophrenic Jew, but no one is falling for your tricks.

it's actually insane how a lot of men get lower libido from fin but they say it has "no sides" because they're happy with a cucked libido, probably don't have sex often because they can't get it so they think it's better no not have high libido lol

Feels like suddenly came on, good lord. No family history of balding.

Should I just get on a fin while I try to find out if it could be something other than male pattern baldness? PMD jumped right to that but rather see a derm but theyre booked for months and my hair is currently a ticking time bomb

Does anyone else shed at specific times?
In the morning/early afternoon I can run my hands through my hair and 0 hairs fall out. When I do that later in the day, it starts falling.

>>18493218
Yes you should get on fin. Its always male pattern baldness, thinning crown is like the hallmark sign.

>>18493197
lots of men are low T and have ED and balding and just live with it because they're too embarrassed to bring it up with doctor, they also won't be getting prostate exams when they hit 40 because that's gay
men are just cucked in general

>>18493197
source: it came to you in a dream while after falling asleep fantasizing about other mens sex lives

>>18493270
true, I also don't think it's entirely just the fin causing it, but it probably kicks the cuck hormones just enough for the libido to go down, and I don't trust the average man to be living at healthy condition nowadays
>>18493271
source: your mom told me while I was raping her, but if that's not enough you can just refer to the tons of dudes saying that their libido lowered and that it's great to have low libido

>>18493302
Who doesn't have their libido lower from aging? If you're not a teenager anymore then it's going to be lower especially if you're in your late 20s-30s which is when a lot of people start fin. It was always lower you just didn't notice until crackpots started spamming PFS.

>>18493302
yeah and astrology is also real because retarded people like women swear by it.

after lurking and identifying my case as NW3a (more thinning on the crown than temples) I will start min and tab fin next week. (ill post pictures of my hairline and crown later today so if you guys have some comments on it ill note them)

>>18493218
Yes go on immediately
Stay on it for a year and see what gains you get
If you're happy with that stay on top of it with fin and min if you want more gains but if it's meh maybe save up for a transplant (or just accept it and go bald)

fin-bros... i thought finasteride was supposed to work for a life time....

>>18489024 (OP)
I just turned 21 and I'm not exaggerating when I say my hairline looks even worse than this fucker's (my widow's peak started looking pronounced as fuck because of my balding). But instead of whining I've been shaving my head since I was 17 and living my life as usual. I don't know why god made me this way, but it is what it is. Anyway, moral of the story: I have it worse than all of you. Stop whining like little bitches!

>>18493433
i knew a guy who was legitimately bald as shit by high school. grandpa tier, nw6 or something.
that doesnt actually make me feel better though. just reminds me how precious hair is.

thoughts on diving straight into topical fin/min from hims or similar brand?
40yo and norwood 2/3