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Going to post this over here.

I have access to a rare discounted Allure Homme Sport. It is a modest one but it's at a store so no shipping. That being said, I can still get a same sized bottle of Versace Pour Homme off of a discounter, add shipping and it's slightly over a third of the price.

I didn't test VPH's drydown but at least in the opening the creaminess of Chanel was more gripping. Some have said that even a well-trained nose won't tell the difference in the air. Is it worth sinking the extra dough into a 20 year old fragrance?

>>18490710
>rare discounted Allure Homme Sport

What do you guys think of Givenchy Gentleman (1974)?
Just looking at the main accords I just can tell that it will be great.

This stuff smells decent, but what are they thinking with the absurd pricing?

>>18490710
>rare discounted Allure Homme Sport
>2004
Friendo, I don’t care if you have a day one batch, it ain’t that rare, and isn’t anything special. It’s CAHS.

>>18490725
TheGayDragon/10

>>18490731
They’re thinking dunces will still pay for it because it’s new, and keeping up with the Chaddingtons.
Unfortunately they’re right.

>>18490725
I just sprayed a bit of mine (vintage bottle with a long metallic plastic cap). Earthy patchouli, musk, oakmoss, and an animalic leather vibe at the base. If you like stuff like classic Polo it's worth trying. I like smelling old stuff like this but I can't imagine wearing it until I too am old.

>>18490737
Sounds nice, I personally don't mind wearing these types of fragrances, its mainly a matter of perception influenced by trends trends are fucking shit anyways.

>>18490725
vintage is good
modern is meh to bad

I started my oud journey with Oud for Glory which is not as oud-heavy as I would've liked. I mean I like the saffron but I wanted something woodier
What should my next buys be?
I already smelled Oud Wood and I like it quite a lot but it's way overpriced for what it is.

>>18490746
how about something that actually contains oud? buying 1g attars of pure oud oil is the fastest and cheapest way

Summer banger

>>18490712
why is he so large

I have a hard time picking a fragrance for fall/winter. All of the fragrances dedicated to those seasons fall heavy on my nose and choke me out. I gravitate towards airy and light.

>>18490807
Lalique Lion

>>18490781
Unfortunately not my thing but enjoy.

>>18490710
Most boring DNA of all time desu. I would get neither. Even Versace's own Man Eau Fraiche and Blue Jeans are better

>>18488549
Reckless meme frag orderer here.

>Davidoff Cool Water
5/10
You get what you pay for. I expected more marine/watery from this. Thankfully I got 75ml not 100. After a while it smells like plastic dolls. Disgusting.

>Hermes H24 Herbes Vives
6.5/10
It's alright, which isn't necessarily good for a fragrance, to be just alright. Smells better after the opening with some interesting nuanced notes starting to show, but by then it's on way to being a skin scent.

>Lalique Encre Noir
5.5/10
Nothing special. Inky, as the name suggests, with cheap earthiness. You also get "plastic handle of the pen" notes which is barely better than plastic doll part notes.

>Final Thoughts
Top kek. That these fragrances are sold and celebrated in any way is mind boggling to me. I ordered these to distract me from using up the more expensive bottles I thoroughly enjoy and covet. You get what you pay for. The first and probably last time I invest in poorfag frags. I am particularily in awe how much praise Cool Water receives, regardless of how "new" it was in 1988. You get what you pay for.

>>18490835
never listen to /frag/

>>18490835
For me it's Terre D'Hermes.
The flint note is interesting, but after an hour or so of smelling this weird orange-rubbed-on-a-hot-stone aroma I start to feel genuinely angry and on edge.

>>18490837
/frag/ tends to rightfully shit talk Cool Water, Encre and even H24, so /frag/ is not always wrong. I had it coming but I was more than prepared for it. But yes, never EVER listen to anyone but yourself. Explore for yourself and ignore all the bulging basedjak videos that worship piss liquids, ignore all the fucking fragrantica comments praising piss liquids, ignore the fake ratings. The only rating that's real is one's own. Explore for yourself and only yourself, not on behalf of consensus opinion.

The satisfaction of curiousity regarding these memefrags alone was worth it for me, but I could've paid a fraction to satisfy it.

>35
>Male
>Office worker
>UK
My bottle of Prada Luna Rossa Carbon is about to run out. I'm sick of D&G Light Blue and Acqua di Gio Profumo. Any recommendations, or should I just buy another bottle of Prada?

>>18490862
Platinum Egoiste

>>18490846
Never tried it but that one's another curiousity for me. The other week I received a sample of Haltane by Parfums de Marly and was underwhelmed at the time, but now I appreciate it A LOT after this disappointing haul.

Also think /frag/ is a bit harsh towards Bleu de Chanel, whose only flaw is its popularity. I need to smell it again just to confirm that though.

>>18490862
just smear yourself in piss and feces. fuck it. fuck everything.

>>18490869
This. Without a trace of irony.

hello
how to prevent grease stains from handling perfume bottles
? thanks

>>18490883
i am a white mechanic btw

>>18490857
I like Myslf EDP, apparently I'm a basic bitch.

finding it hard to justify ~£130 for 50ml but the sample is so fucking good bros idk

>>18490835
the problem is you are a noselet and very young. come back in a few years.

>>18490835
I am downgrading my rating for Cool Water to 3/10 because of the "grandma's house" drydown. This is what made Gen X and boomers shid their pants? Are you fucking serious? This has to be the worst fragrance I've ever smelled so far. This is insanely bad.

>>18490897
You can't be serious. You're probably the jester who posts replies saying "lol. lmao." just to get a reaction, which is unironically based and commendable.

>>18490896
yeah being poor must be hard

>>18490895
It's more subjective with scent than anything. It's just irritating when you're given the impression that something smells objectively good or bad by way of consensus opinion. If you enjoy the fragrance you've won.

>>18490835
I recently bought Encre Noire as well and I got filtered. The fresh cypress is nice, but has an odd undertone that makes it unpleasant.

>>18490926
>has an odd undertone that makes it unpleasant

This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This.

>>18490835
I am also downgrading Herbes Vives to 5.5/10
The name Herbes Vives is too appropriate with the dill note. Where the fuck is the pear middle note I was promised? Whole bottle should be renamed to Whisper of the Dill for maximum honest accurate description. Lays Dill Pickle fragrance ffs. Never trust a perfumer who remotely looks Jewish.

Built for /frag/ cock to be used as rape meat by chads wearing Kouros, MYSLF, and Sauvage

>>18490939
>look! i'm smelling! look at me smell
>take another photo of me smelling!
God I hate these braindead faggots so much.

>>18490883
What do you mean, like your pristine glass bottles getting greasy because of your body oils? If that is it then you just have to get used to it, I usually spray after a shower so my hands are clean but any time I want to test something later on it's going to get greasy. Other than washing your hands you can use a cloth to wipe them down. Bottles getting regular use are going to get filthy, the only people with clean bottles are shills.

>>18490862
Go all bong and buy Burberry London

>>18490936
The notes aren't great? dang, I found an empty bottle and all I smell is pear and grass on the cap. Glad I didn't buy a refill of that one. Talk about misleading.

Has anyone tried this? Does it live up to the stories?

>>18490960
thx anon. thats reassuring bc i legit thought i was the only one with greasy fingers for a second. looking at all those greasy bottles was a downer when i posted that

>>18490781
Apparently they all smell cheap and synthetic

>>18490963
Yeah, very disappointing. It's such a dull, uninteresting, uninspiring, chemical dill-water scent to me. There's nothing refreshing about it. Nothing enjoyable or aesthetically pleasing. If I had to guess, this Christine Nagel boomer never walked in nature a day of her life. Maybe she inhaled nature's scents but she never smelled them. She just doesn't have that nose. This is what happens when a normie boomer chemist with clearly no artistic tendencies/sensibilities, only credentials, is allowed to make fragrances. Hermes is selling literal dill-water with this one. Projection and longevity are virtually non-existent here. Encre Noir has better P&L.

About the cap... it smells best when concentrated. When I spray it I spray point-blank for that reason but unfortunately it's still not enough to save the perfume. I can only hope it grows on me, that I wake up one day and like it more than usually like with some other frags. I wish whatever pear or grass there is in it opened up more for me but all I'm getting is dill-water.

>>18490966
I tried a discovery set and while the ingridients smell nice with quality, the blends don't end up working well, Kind of like Mancera.

NEW TRENDING PANTY-DROPPER NOTES OF 2025
>Papyrus
>Matcha Tea
>Ink
>Bamboo
>Castoreum
>Pistachio

With hints of pearly penile papule

>>18490926
Let it macerate, it will get even better.

>>18490986
This.
They say that fragrances have already macerated prior to being sold, but I'm starting to think there's a continuation of the process upon unsealing the perfume. Noticed that sometimes I'll hate a perfume at first spray but then it grows on me, if not within weeks then months. The question remains, is it a psychological adjustment/acclimation to the scent or is it subtle changes in the chemistry of the juice?

>>18490835
>t. noselet

>>18491004
Certainly a mix of both and nose digesting the new smell, brain adapting and shit like that.
But there's absolutely no doubt that there's an evolution of the frag itself after using it out of the box.
Like it's balancing itself and gaining more power.
It was pretty obvious for me with Encre Noire, the very first time that I smelled it I was angry and wanted to smash the bottle on the ground, I even asked myself if it was a real fragrance and not a fake.
Then after a couple of weeks, it started to develop some notes and presence, like it was slowly blooming.
The first sniff was alcohol+ashtray+faint pine note, almost no staying power, longevity was catastrophic, but after the two week sitting all was getting in place and even better, after multiple monthes to years, the thing has grown even more and is now at full power, now I'll see if it's going to die at some point or if it will continue to grow in power or stay like that.

>>18490964
I’ve smelled both Follow and Followed and didn’t care for either, but in (much distant) hindsight, I think it’s because
1: I don’t particularly care for -any- coffee frags, and
2: They need to be smelled as sillage, not directly off the skin / near the skin, which is how I typically test most fragrances.

This next part is 100% speculation on my own part, so take it with a massive grain of salt, but I think the perfumer basically saw the popularity of Follow and literally just upped the oil concentration for Followed, without any consideration for actual balance. Like he took Follow from an EdP straight to an Extrait, and bumped several oils that in large(r) doses smell bad/burnt. Same way animalics are only good (to most people) in small doses, but up the concentration and they literally smell like feces.

>>18490866
>these are the people shunning the classics
yeah, checks out.
american hours really produce the most dogshit opinions and discussions, jesus

>>18491018
Fuck off Europoor

Do you guys collect Labubus?
What fragrance would you spray your Labubus with?
I personally use Nautica Voyage on my Labubu.

>>18490835
>>18490866
You'll get it when you're not a newbie. Everyone has the mainstream slop phase first and only then learns to appreciate more unique or older fragrances.

>>18491024
incredibly small dick energy post
sotd air

>>18491028
>sotd air
Unfathomably and unequivocally based.

>>18491023
what the fuck is a Labubu? is it a bit like a Tralalero Trallala?
what fragrance would he wear?

>>18491028
this nigga just concluded /frag/ with a sotd
>air
the literal and logical conclusion of fragrance. the alpha and omega. lord have mercy.

>>18491033
>what fragrance would he wear?
Megamare mixed with Acqua di Giò Profondo and Blood Redwood Alchemy.
Also, Labubus are little plushes, I find is so fucking retarded and adding to that the retarded name, that it's making me laugh.
A fucking labubu.lol.
And add to that the fucking song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtCokH5-t8w

>>18491036
It's basically a Cheburashka rip off.

>>18491036
this is making me groove. if i start wanting a lbabubu after this you know what to do. *hands u shotgun*

>>18491021
sneed

>>18491036
surely this little nigga would wear something animalic
>>18491037
oh no tovarishch, is that a cheburashka??? AHHH I'M GOING INSAAAANE

>>18490725
I have the modern formulation, I assume, but not the new new version. Haven't used it that much, buy my impression is that it has the vintage feel of its era, but the iris give it a more modern contemporary touch, tying in to the modern gentleman line. Performance is not that great.
I'll spray some on and report back if my impression has changed.

almost everything in the essential parfums discovery set smells nice

>>18490862
Missoni wave

>>18490973
>Christine Nagel
I've said before she's a bad perfumer, but ultimately it's the idiots at Hermes fault that greenlighting the perfumes.
I appreciate that they're trying to make something new and modern, probably looking for a new Terre d'hermes, but all they've come up with is too weird and unpleasant.

>>18491037
I prefere this little gentleman over the demonic labubu.
>>18491039
Do not fall for this psyop, bro, this shit is like a lobotomy, or a labubutomy.

>>18491048
Nice, can't wait to try it.
Performance might evolve after some time, but in any case, the performance being average or even not good is not something that would turn me off of a frag, especialy if the price is low, for expensive frags it's another story.

Is Terre D’Hermes too much for hot weather?

Also. Thoughts on Dior Homme Sport?

>>18491070
>Is Terre D’Hermes too much for hot weather?
I think it's fine in hot weather. Though some might say it's too spicy.
>Thoughts on Dior Homme Sport?
It's good, better than Dior Homme (2020). Sort of an incense freshie with an aldehydic citrus top and very strong performance, it's a good one.

>>18491070
TdH works in hot weather but personally I like it on rainy days because the flint notes amplifies petrichor

>>18491023
>>>/reddit/

>>18491051
yes

>>18491057
>t. retard

looking to buy a frag for my gf, what would a dainty manic pixie dream girl wear?

>>18491112
Twilly d'Hermes

>>18491057
imo one of the worst perfumers currently active

>>18491004
>They say that fragrances have already macerated prior to being sold
No, letting a product voluntarily sit and wait unsold is very expensive in business. Extra storage and labor add to the cost, not to mention the loss of short term profit. These might seem like small amounts but they translate into huge differences in retail prices. The companies that macerate their perfumes have to charge more but that doesn't that all the expensive perfumes are macerated. I highly doubt something that sells for less than $50 was macerated.

>>18491112
Magic mushrooms

So I got this recently, super fresh citrus opening that seems to last on my skin for quite a while which is great because im in a hot and rather humid climate. But the magic is in the dry down, its actually pretty masculine, probabaly because of the sandalwood in the base? and holy shit do the ladies like this one. Probably best for someone in their 30's+
Think ill drive this daily for a little while and see how it goes. Not sure about the price tag but then again not a lot of PDM is "worth" the price tag.

>>18491112
They all seem to be gourmand girlies these days

>>18490857
you forgot to mention
>ignore all the socially crippled autistic shut-in contrarians that are still doing the 'it's bad because it's mainstream' meme here in the big almost 2-6

O Autumn, Where Art Thou?

>>18491200
It's up there with GIT and CAHS as overpriced but no regrets buys for me
love it in the Florida heat

just found out that in ye good old days ambergris ice cream was a thing

Anyone like/wear classic Burberry for Men? I already have PE but wouldn't mind having something cheaper in that 'genre'.

>>18491309
castoreum was also used as flavoring

>>18491309
>he doesn't know what vanillin is used for
>he doesn't know how givaudan, symrise, IFF, DSM, et al., make most of their money
>he doesn't know why there is a huge push for gourmands and sweet scents
>he doesn't know why most mainstream scents for men became sweet
turn back while you can, you don't want into this rabbit hole

big geranium doesn't want you to know

>smells basic thats why its the best designer fragrance ever made
Wtf is this logic

I like Rien, but where would I wear it to? I'm not attending any BDSM orgies anytime soon.

>>18491350
tell us

I do not care for ambroxan.

>>18491366
is is basic because it's basic, or is it basic because it's so good and popular it set the standard for modern men's fragrances (outside of the sweet gourmandslop taking over)

>>18491366
Bleu de Chanel is a George Michael song. The stuff you wear is Experimental Trip-Hop Shoegaze.

>>18491401
it smells like a magazine insert

>>18490705 (OP)
What are decent scents you can get at Ross/tj max?

I’ve seen issey miyake, Burberry Dior scents there

>>18491416
I've seen Jaipur in there a few times

>>18491416
I used to see brands like that but these days it's mostly knockoff garbage. One exception being The Dreamer which I picked up at TJM.

>>18491419
That's a good one

>>18491423
I wanted to like The Dreamer, but the opening is vile, like glue or something, then when the florals come out they are just weak and already a skin scent.

>>18491425
Yeah, I actually gave mine away. Didn't work for me. I found Tauer LADAS achieved what I wanted from The Dreamer, caveat being it costs way more.

Any recommendations for an office fragrance? I had terre d'hermes and grey vetiver, wanted to try something new. I like oud minerale but not sure if it's office friendly

I might not smell anything, but I know that I mog all of you

>If a tree falls in a forest but no one is around to hear it, does it still make a sound?

>If an Anon wears a fragrance everyone is nose blind to, does he still smell good?

Whats a good soapy scent something that smells like dove bar soap
Sotd: encre noir sport

>>18491398
With the trend for eating healthier and the decrease in sugar consumption in places like the US, the growth of the "tastes and flavors" segment has slowed. To compensate for this slowed growth the oligopoly of Givaudan, Firmenich, and Symrise, have colluded to promote gourmands and sweet scents to increase their profit margins for the aromachemicals that have lower demand due to healthier eating trends. Not only have female scents become sweeter but so have male scents to capitalize on the whole market. Not only does this bring in more profit in fragrances due to higher profit margins it slows the decline in the flavor segment by keeping people craving unhealthy sweet foods.

Friendly reminder that the top perfumers are not independent rockstars that get to do whatever they want, but employees and shills for the big flavors and fragrances companies: Alberto Morillas (Firmenich), Oliver Cresp (Firmenich), Dominique Ropion (Givaudan), Bertrand Duchaufour (Symrise), Nathalie Larson (Firmenich), Jean-Claude Ellena (Givaudan), Daniela Andrier (Givaudan), Jacques Cavallier-Belletrud (Firmenich), Quentin Bish (Givaudan), Thierry Wasser (Firmenich, Givaudan), Annick Menardo (Firmenich), etc.., Not to mention that youtubers and tiktokers are the biggest shills for sweet scents.

Wait until you hear why they "banned" oakmoss. Spoiler alert, the answer is also profit margins, because that is always the answer.

tldr: men have to smell like the candy isle now because the penny-pinchers have to balance for the slowing sales in junk food aroma-chemicals

>>18491478
>dove soap
Literally Guerlain Vetiver in the dry down.

>>18491463
Beau de Jour is really nice for the office. OL is you wear a suit
i also wear essenza, though any Colonia will work, NYI, BI, Oud Malaki, Prada l'Homme and H24 EDP

>>18491480
>men have to smell like the candy isle now
Is that what it's like in the US?
Here in England it's not sweet frags that dominate popular mens perfumery, it's ambroxan bombs.
I rarely smell gourmand fragrances on men here, but not a day passes where I don't smell either Sauvage, BdC, Dylan Blue, or some Arab dupe equivalent on men between 20-40.

>>18491490
I should add, I feel as if ambroxan is the oakmoss/ambergris of contemporary perfumery (and to a lesser degree the patchouli derivatives like akigalawood), and I guess that ties into your point about the fragrance companies pushing their chemicals, and why they 'banned' these more traditional fixatives, so they could push their own alternatives on the industry.

>>18491492
>fragrance companies pushing their chemicals, and why they 'banned' these more traditional fixatives, so they could push their own alternatives on the industry.
100%. No way the margins on oakmoss extract are higher than synthetic ambrox. Nobody has banned oakmoss, not even the EU. IFRA themselves told the EU that oakmoss is bad and they are going to limit it to 0.1%. This is all so they can make more money on ambrox.

>>18491484
I will believe you and buy a sample right now. Dont let me down.

>>18491490
ambroxan bombs had their time here, and everyone knows that Europe, especially the UK is always 5-10 years behind the United States with regards to health, beauty, grooming, and fashion trends (with the exception of occasional breakout celebrities, but this is typically a generational phenomenon)

>>18491480
No wonder shit like Naxos, Layton, Althair, Boss Absolu etc. is getting pumped to the top of every list.

>>18491480
> hurr durr big flavor is making men smell like a mall kiosk to sell more Twinkies
holy shit this take is so retarded I'm embarrassed reading it
> Gourmands are being pushed by Givaudan and Firmenich to offset sugar profits!!
You think Firmenich’s R&D department is a bunch of kikes sitting in a dark room snarling
“people are eating fewer Snickers… QUICK, MAKE ULTRA MALE EVEN SWEETER!”

The flavor and fragrance divisions are separate, faggot. They don’t need to mind-control you via vanilla overdose to make money. They’re printing cash selling shampoo base #9348 and fake strawberry to yogurt brands.

> Perfumers are just corporate shills
Yeah no shit, welcome to the world. You think Bertrand Duchaufour is out here mixing myrrh and bat piss in a forest hut like some wizard? Nah, he’s filling briefs from brands who want “sexy but fresh but also edible for zoomer boys to shill on tiktok”


> Oakmoss was banned for profit margins!!
It was IFRA-regulated for allergens. You can still use it, just not raw and unfiltered like your autism. Also: oakmoss doesn’t scale well for mass production, and Diors not risking a lawsuit from some Karen in Iowa because she got a rash from Eau Sauvage vintage.

> Youtubers and TikTokers shill sweet scents!
sweet = dumb = mass appeal = views = affiliate links. Doesn’t mean there’s a cabal. Just capitalism, baby.

> Smelling sweet keeps people addicted to sugar
This is literally rěddit basedscience. Nobody sprayed A*Men and said “god damn I need a chocolate lava cake" you fucking eternal bullying victim. Sweet scents sell because normies like them.

TLDR:
meds now

SOTD: Tobacco Vanille
I layered it over palo santo oil. Smells pleasant.

I bought a decant of margiela coffee break and didn’t love it is there any other margiela i should try. i’m thinking about whispers in the library or lazy sunday morning

>>18491524
>and everyone knows that Europe, especially the UK is always 5-10 years behind the United States
This isn't the 90s anymore my dude.
We have all the same products available, we're just making different choices, and British men aren't choosing gourmands.

>>18491535
Lazy Sunday Morning to me just smells like fresh laundry. Nothing wrong with that though, it's just too mid for me. I've seen few good reviews of WITL but some say it lacks longevity.

>>18491530
>Firmenich’s R&D
>The flavor and fragrance divisions are separate
R&D is separate from the divisions and the divisions all use the same R&D because why the fuck wouldn't they lmao. Are you retarded?

>>18491530
>It was IFRA-regulated for allergens.
IFRA is not an external body telling theses companies what to do, it represents the interest, i.e. the money, of the fragrance industry. The member companies agreed not to use oakmoss, nobody told them not to.

>>18491535
By the Fireplace and Jazz Club are the most popular ones recommended. BTF is hit or miss. I remember smelling it once and it literally smelled like its name, like I was literally by a fireplace. Every other time has never matched that.

>>18490705 (OP)
Anyone have goth-y fragrance recommendations? Preferably with rose. I also like vetiver and narcotic notes/white florals

>>18491553
>acrasia

>>18491553
Just wear Egoiste

Recommend me something that smells like a road trip throught the American Southwest. Preferably with decent longevity.

what's the deal with this boomer? he doesn't seem to be "all there" and gives off downie vibes. did he just get lucky a couple of times or is he actually a good perfumer?

>>18491568
Lonestar Memories

>>18491572
He made good fragrances, but more importantly he did so without following the current trends of the time.

>>18491478
Prada amber pour homme

>>18491572
>did he just get lucky a couple of times
>or is he actually a good perfumer
You just said the same thing twice. The batting average for a good perfumer is like .200 if you're being generous.

>>18491366
“To be truly elegant, one should not be noticed.”

>>18491535
I look forward to wearing Jazz Club again but I'm months away from 60 degree temps
I think it's the most warm and intoxicating fragrance on the market.
How people describe Angels Share as burnt sugar, I find it too sweet, Jazz Club is that same warm boozy hug I'm looking for. It's like a bender in a bottle. A darker more complex and rich version of a dior homme sport. I am an alcoholic so I could just be nose blind to booze idk.

What are good frags from Egypt?

Any perfumes out there that smells like you're sniffing markers? Inky, dark, etc.

Any other photorealistically carnal fumes like this?

Name 3 frags for all seasons and all occasions
>Eau sauvage parfum
>Bois impérial
>L'Eau d'Issey Intense

>>18491463
H24

Hey gents,
I'm looking for a fragrence on a budget to wear on the daily. I dont usually wear my cologne everyday but would like one that can be used regularly and isnt too expensive to top up.

The only two i have currently are Versace Eros and Armani You intensley. Pictel is what chapgt recommended, but i cant find them in shops here in Spain, as id like to try them first. I can dind them on Vinted for example.

What do you think of the recommendations? Any others? I like woody scents but also need something more summer as well. I also really like Yves Saint Laurent which my father wears, but i dont hear it talked about much

>>18491675
Could go for Terre d'Hermes if you don't mind spending 60$ or so

Stop using ChatGPT sloptard they lie to you

>>18491553
you mean, like, goth rock?

>>18491622
anything with phencyclidine

Lattafa oud for glory
I just tried out a sample. During the opening I was like wow holy shit. This thing is only $20 but it smells amazing. Then over the next hour or so I feel that it smelled so sophisticated and punched above its weight. But then a few more hours later, it somehow turned into a synthetic deformed copy of BR540. Like wtf. What’s with that weird late dry down. I hate BR and its clones so it turned me off. Went from a no brainer sure buy to stay the fuck away. It projected for over half the day.

Is there anything like oud for glory that doesn’t devolve into rogue slop? Or is that the destiny of anything that has “saffron” notes.

>>18491542
>Unilever has the same finance department for both Axe/Lynx and Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream! WOAH THEY MUST BE IN ON IT
Have you considered limiting screen use to 1-3 hours a week maximum you fucking midwit shut-in

>>18491730
All arab sloppa smells the same once it dries down.

Which one and why? Vintage only.

Orthodox bros are living my life fr.
Wdym you got this from your church? This is an absolute beast. Can pass for niche quality. Hope I can find a whole bottle.

>>18491730
I love the drydown, smells like a more masculine take on baccarat

>>18491768
Never tried frags from this perfumer but I'm not sure I would want to smell like liturgical incense all day, it's already a bit too much sometimes at church

>>18491756
Is that narciso bleu noir? My dad gifted me that one years ago. Remarkable iris note.

>>18491770
Morrissey wears Comme des Garcons Series 3 Incense: Avignon

>>18491683
Yeah. Rockstar but not anything leather-booze-tobacco manly man. Rake or androgynous dandy vampire type of vibe

Today I'm wearing Victoria's Secret Very Sexy for Him. It smells nice, doesn't last long - perfect.

>>18491803
Look no further.

>>18491851
I love the notes. It seems like it's made for a vampire.

>>18491858
It is.
It's a favorite of mine.

Bored of, and partially nose blind to, D&G Light Blue. I have JPG Le Male but it’s a bit too soapy for my tastes. Recommend me similar affordable men’s fragrances, either in the same lane as Light Blue (but different enough) or something like Le Male that’s less soap-forward.

Smells exactly like smoked tuna fillet covered in lime juice.
Incredibly unique and weird.

>>18491553
Hermann a mes Cotes
Encre Noire a l'Extreme
Antaeus (manly vampire)
La fille de berlin (femme vampire)

>>18491589
Probably some traditional ambers or rose ouds

>>18491622
CDG 2011 smells like glue

>>18491730
There are lots of good perfumes with saffron that aren't BRslop
The whole oud for greatness dna is a disjointed mess

>>18490705 (OP)
The Fragrance Groups 101 Chart

>>18490705 (OP)
The Fragrance Flowchart for Beginners

Fuck it I’m blind buying encre noire. Original or l’extreme?

>>18491896
Like what?

>>18491950
Original, if you like it, then you can extend it with extreme and sport.

>>18491878
Everyone who smelled it so far described it as churchy incense, or at least like incense.
I'm baffled

>>18491950
l'extreme
>>18491957
sounds like noselets aren't able to differentiate between smoke and incense

>>18491878
beauforts are all garbage

>>18491535
>Margiela

More like mid-giela

Blind bought a 75 dollar fragrance only for it to be the one my dad uses

>>18491803
Czech-Speake No. 88

>>18491950
>Like what?
Many of the modern leather fragrance use saffron. Some use it heavily like Tuscan Leather

>>18491004
>a frag will grow on me
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mere-exposure_effect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endowment_effect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice-supportive_bias
tl;dr there are many reasons why a frag might grow on you that have nothing to do with a change in the frag itself.

>>18491950
I prefer l'extreme, but it's down to personal preference

>>18491366
It only smells basic because it's overdone to hell, but BdC really stood out when it came out in 2010.
>>18491374
BDSM or- oh, nevermind.
You could wear it anywhere but the gym and the office really, you'll just smell unusual.

>>18491463
I think Oud Minerale is acceptable in a younger and less formal office, but it's right at the limit.
I'd try Costa Azzurra EDP for a woody but very approachable mineral, sea salt scent, Encre Noire for more vetiver, Timbuktu for slightly sweeter and more exotic vetiver, and Fat Electrician for creamier and comfier vetiver.

Trying out RL Purple Label. I'm liking the herbal notes I get here, slightly anisic but fresh. I think this is what Cedrat Boise was trying to be, rather than a pure Aventus clone as some suggest. Of course the RL smells better than CB in every way, with the trade off being performance. I would rather get this and overspray it than endure the opening of any Aventus clone.

>>18492080
yeah Cedrat Boise smells like total trash

>>18492081
Someone here likened it once to "lemon candies in an ashtray", and they were pretty bang on.

>>18492084
I get more "skittles drizzled with Liquid Smoke". But yeah, it smells like a bad parody of Aventus

>>18492080
How does Purple Label compare to Bleecker Street?

>>18492085
That could also describe Emperor Extrait by Parfums Vintage. How that dupe house gets so much hype is beyond me.

>>18492090
Haven't smelled the Bond, sorry.

>>18492056
You fat tinfoil fedora wearing schizo. You obese fucking failure, I laugh at how pathetically you're denying and coping. None of these three is more likely to impact the perception of a fragrance than the effect of oxygen. I spit on your deformed beetus ridden blob of a body. Sotd Obsession for Men

>>18492100
>fat obese diabetic
Post body (you'll find great excuses not to I'm sure).
>denying and coping
Denying what and coping with what in what way?
>none of these is likely to be more impactful than oxygen
Where do you see me disagreeing?

>>18492100
They're at least as equally likely as oxygen, probably more so
Maceration schizos are almost as common as reformulation schizos. Both of those things are real, but massively overstated by retards online.

Cowardly New England fatso desperately typing away with his lardy face covered in aging homo tears. O I am laffin

>>18492100
>Sotd Obsession with Men
kek

I once had a deodorant stick of Obsession, and using it made me stink to high heaven. Worst I have ever smelled. Unscented mineral deodorants or nothing for me.

>>18492114
Damn. What's your diet?

>>18491876
Bump

>>18492114
For me it's Ban Unscented. Perfectly scent-free and prevents odor marvelously.

>>18491950
Og is the best. Sport and le extreme both have a sweet aspect that smells like a ladies perfume.

>>18491794
Apparently he was a big fan of the old Gucci Pour Homme too.

>>18491876
Have you tried Sel D'Issey?

>>18492031
What is it?

>>18492274
Prada Luna Rossa Sport

What fragrance is she wearing?

>>18492300
(Armani) code?

>>18492300
uhm, thanks for the boner?

>>18492300
Jizz Club

Scents of the evening

Left arm
>Tauer - phtaloblue
Interesting take on a regular blue. This is like a deep sea algae kind of blue. The bluest blue Ive ever smelt

Right arm
>Comme de garcons original (1994 edp)
Opens up extremely gray, spicy, and dry, like an angry stack of printer paper. Extremely offputing at first, then quickly tries down to a gorgeous cinnamon/clove/balsam/vanilla accord. It's like a basket of scented holiday pinecones. Absolutely wild switchup, will definitely try this again in colder weather but it really is like someone punching you in the face after dusting their knuckles in cloves. Also reminds me of those Djarum clove cigarettes hipster faggots (me) used to smoke

Left shoulder
>issey miyake eau & cedre
Pleasant water and uhh.. cedre. Like an acquatic take on Armani's Eau de Cedre and more fresh lemon to top it off

This might sound gay but my friend and I play a game where we sniff each other and guess what cologne they're wearing. So far we haven't gotten any weird looks in public.

>>18491553
CdG Avignon

>>18492293
Got a sample of the Carbon one and i really digged it. Never tried the sport one, sounds very safe.

I’m a perfumer at Robertet if you guys know what that is, ask me anything

>>18492467
What note do you absolutely hate but afraid to say out loud

>>18492300
Plap for Her

>>18492483
I find Paracresyl methyl ether extremely nauseating, unfortunately for me it is one of the main constituents of Ylang-Ylang, which is a material particularly useful when creating Amber type fragrances. I worked with it for about three months when I was part of a team formulating a narcotic ambery type fragrance for a Middle Eastern brand.

>>18490835
tastelet, noselet
>>18490911
and retarded zoomer

lol as well as lmao

>>18491480
>>18491492
>>18491507
this explains a lot

>>18491756
boss
animalic very masculine

This has a fresh bright citrus, smooth tea smell but also has this soft sweet accord almost like fruity pebbles cereal but more refined. Performance sucks though. Is there anything else like it?

How do I smell picrel, not looking for something cheap I just want to smell like failure

I don’t like Eros and I hate Ombré Leather, my collection has two bits I hate
Quite honestly spicebomb is one of the greats
Middle of summer smelling like a gingerbread man
It’s not embarrassing

>>18492547
hopefully not
>>18492555
pic related

>>18492561
Cool, thanks faggot

>>18492561
Picrel rel I didn’t call you a faggot, that one doesn’t seem to be real, no idea where to buy it

>>18492565
based

>>18492547
probably. argos is one of the free bottle brigade houses that came out of nowhere where their whole catalog is just overpriced clones

>>18492444
Not gay. Wish I had a perfume buddy. I get to talk with my sister but she's not autistic enough.

super gay it comes with the territory.

>>18492467
What are your favorite vintage perfumes?
How much does Robertet charge their clients to make a perfume?

>>18492608
Same no one I know is really into fragrance other than this hot girl at work who wears perfume a lot. I almost revealed my power level to her when I correctly guessed what she was wearing.

>>18492615
>no one I know is really into fragrance
neither are you as far as we can tell from your image

>>18492615
There is an old trope in literature where the well travelled gentleman always knew what perfume ladies wore. That made sense when 95% of women wore 1 of 20 different perfumes. Today they all wear clones of the same perfumes.

>>18492615
snice

>>18492615
Great collection, hoping to get to that level someday :3

>>18492624
>Oh I love your perfume, is that grand soir?
>No it’s lattafa gaddhaffa mufasa ibn al bianca vagina labubu, I saw it on TikTok

>>18492614
I was able to smell some very nice old Guerlains while I studied, but the old patous were my favorites. Regarding price, it depends on if we can reuse a previously made formula or if it has to be created from scratch. It also depends on who makes it. Generally speaking formulas made by famous perfumers can range from six to seven figures, while those made by unknowns usually go for less. The most important thing is time, if you have a team of lab assistants and technicians working under a master perfumer for a few months it’s gonna cost you a very pretty penny. If it’s just two or three perfumers working on an already previously created formula, it’s still going to cost (around five figures) but you get something very nice out of it.

Looking for a niche alternative to D&G The One EDP. Anything like that actually exist?

>>18492657
thoughts on natural animal ingredients? did you get to learn about them extensively or has it become a side note?

>>18491756
Vintage only? The Fahrenheit in the back.

>>18492500
How do you define a “narcotic” type fragrance? I’ve heard that methyl anthranilate is considered a “narcotic” type scent but we learn it as “grape” (Which I read as ‘you’re wrong but it’s what you’ve been taught’).

Also, how many frags have you released to market, how did you get into the field, what is your major?

>>18492555
Pick something up at your local drugstore. Modern cool water, or anything that retails for (not discounter price) less than $20.

rate my perfumes /fa/
are they effay?

>>18492604
>free bottle brigade
What does this mean? Not defending the house, just genuinely curious.
As in like, PdM or Mind Games where they just send free bottles to influencers as their form of advertising?

>>18492615
Is that Rhino next to Squid, and what’s to the right of Fougère L'Aube? The juice looks darker than any Rogue I know.

>>18492699
Go back to the last time you posted this pic and read the responses.

>>18492699
>>18492708
Here’s the post for you. >>18484728

>>18492708
/fa/ isn't one person you retarded fuckrag

>>18492693
Funny that you should mention that, we purchased Charabot a while ago, and one of their main offerings is something called castoreum hyperessence, a modified castoreum material. I created some formulass where I incorporated it into a fruity leather accord since the hyperessence enhances the floral fruity aspects. Realistically speaking you won’t find any “real” animalic products in commercial fine fragrances unless they are in the high end price bracket, a notable exception is beeswax absolute. Nowadays almost all products containing animalic notes are using premade bases such as Givaudans castoreum givco or castoreum firbest by Firmenich.
>>18492694
I wouldn’t define MA as a narcotic material. In my experience, narcotic notes are usually intense balsamic white florals, best exemplified by Ylang complete or Ylang 1. Most identifiers aren’t necessarily tied to a single product but are rather common identifiers generally used by all perfumers to define certain materials. In the end each perfumer has a certain way of identifying materials and associated a particular idea with them. My schooling was quite traditional in that sense, but nowadays most perfumers keep their own “books” about materials full of annotations, sort of like Arcadi Boix Camps.

>>18492693
Funny that you should mention that, we purchased Charabot a while ago, and one of their main offerings is something called castoreum hyperessence, a modified castoreum material. I created some formulass where I incorporated it into a fruity leather accord since the hyperessence enhances the floral fruity aspects. Realistically speaking you won’t find any “real” animalic products in commercial fine fragrances unless they are in the high end price bracket, a notable exception is beeswax absolute. Nowadays almost all products containing animalic notes are using premade bases such as Givaudans castoreum givco or castoreum firbest by Firmenich.
>>18492694
I wouldn’t define MA as a narcotic material. Narcotic notes are usually intense balsamic white florals, best exemplified by Ylang complete or Ylang 1. Most identifiers aren’t necessarily tied to a single product but are rather common and generally used by all perfumers to define certain materials. In the end each perfumer has a certain way of identifying materials and associated a particular idea with them. My schooling was quite traditional in that sense, but nowadays most perfumers keep their own “books” about materials full of annotations, sort of like Arcadi Boix Camps. I haven’t been working here for that long but I’ve been involved in creating a couple of very successful fragrances, all of which I unfortunately cannot discuss, not even what materials were used. I have both worked as an assistant to some well known professionals and worked as part of a team or solo for some smaller projects. I can’t reveal what, but I worked on a fragrance that was very well received at Esxence

My dad works at Nintendo.

>>18492702
Ya the original Rhino and beside Fougere L'aube is Chypre Siam.

>>18492741
>I created some formulass where I incorporated it into a fruity leather accord since the hyperessence enhances the floral fruity aspects
slide me some samples
>Realistically speaking you won’t find any “real” animalic products in commercial fine fragrances
that's why i stick to indies for the most part. once i smelled the real deal, i couldn't go back

>>18491484
Guerlain Vetiver is the best fragrance ever.

>>18492702
>As in like, PdM or Mind Games where they just send free bottles to influencers as their form of advertising?
yeah

>>18492763
It's not my personal favourite in my collection, but at the same time if I had to pick one fragrance for the rest of my life it would be a strong contender due to sheer versatility.

>>18492741
What about vintage frags like guerlain Jicky. I think that has some real animal in it.

>>18492778
Yeah, it has some dog in it. As in that's a no from me dawg.

>>18492778
It uses real civet and fine sandalwood. Classic frag

>>18491950
Indigo is the best of the "Encre" fragrances.

>>18492785
it doesn't.

Thoughts on this one?

>>18492800
Tried this a while back in store, and all I remember is it was like a slightly weightier version of CK One, which isn't a bad thing since I've always quite liked CK One especially the Summer limited releases.

>>18492789
The vintage formula does.

>>18492858
No, it's synthetic. People love to think that because something is vintage it used real animals but they were using synthetics as soon as they were available.

This stuff is a great air freshener, makes the space smell like a sacred ancient temple. I was thinking of layering with something very light and refreshing so it's easier to wear in warm but not hot weather, what do you suggest

>>18492957
That bottle looks sick

>>18492957
https://youtu.be/iOVxOqaZkG8?si=-agI4Qi1ePznN8lg

I can’t find a sacrificial stone slab to sleep on for the life of me

All you need

>>18492671
Interested in this also

Guerlain Vetiver or Tom Ford Grey Vetiver?

Whats a good dark, heavy, oudy wood frag that I can use mostly for layering

>>18493021
Guerlain Vetiver. it's a bit more interesting with the bright top notes and that tobacco. and it's cheaper, and it's the OG
I like Grey Vetiver too though.

SOTD: CK One

You guys didn't tell me that Brazilslop are underrated.

Sephora near me inexplicably had a bottle of Habit Rouge EDP for testing instead of the quite disgusting new Parfum they usually have
better than the Parfum, though I feel like the EDT evolved more

>>18493143
based

>>18493021
I had Guerlain vetiver and remember not liking it that much. Chanel Sycamore is probably the closest to an authentic Vetiver smell if you're looking for that and the best wearable vetiver ive tried is Vetiver Extraordinaire by Frederic Malle.

>>18493151
>Chanel Sycamore
that's not how you write Parfum d'Empire Vetiver Bourbon

>>18491403
What if I want to smell like bluegrass?

>>18491403
not sure what point you're trying to make. george michael was fantastic, the latter is just a shitty /mu/ meme appealing to 30 people

>>18493021
Grey Vetiver for modern and zingy, Vetiver for classic and earthy.
I'm among those who think Vetiver smells like an old person's house, so for me it's Grey Vetiver every time.
>>18493151
I thought Sycomore smelled like Encre Noire with a variety of herbs as contour.
It was certainly more wearable, but is it really more realistic?

>>18492467
what do you wear daily if anything?

>>18493203
Mississippi Medicine by DS&D

>>18492467
Have you ever had your heart broken

I want to buy Mont Blanc explorer

They should make ones for fucked up people like me called Mont Blanc exploiter

>>18492760
Anything I create while working or at least using the facilities isn’t mine, and I’m not allowed to share or even discuss anything. Sort of like a model gets in trouble if she books gigs without her agency, so I can’t really share anything. >>18493222
I can’t really wear anything while I work, sometimes I get samples for free and I usually wear those, especially if I was involved in the creative processes. I can’t really divulge anything beyond the fact that said fragrances are extremely expensive and sold in some very particular high end stores in the western hemisphere. A very technically impressive fragrance that I used to be quite fascinated by was interlude 53

>>18493214
Vetiver oil in itself is a melody of smells and composition. Various regions produce different profiles. Like oud oil, vetiver is complex enough to be worn as a fragrance by itself. Sycamore smells like a good quality vetiver.

Is there anything that mogs iris as a note?

>>18493441
yes

>>18493441
For me, it's violet.

>>18493441
Literally everything
Iris sucks balls

>>18493344
I am so glad that vetiver as a whole has largely survived the IFRA witchhunts. Definitely my favorite component overall

>>18493312
>A very technically impressive fragrance that I used to be quite fascinated by was interlude 53
What about it in particular? How do you feel about the black iris flanker in comparison?

>>18490705 (OP)
I need a cologne under $50 that tells everyone
“I’m dangerous”

>>18493552
Thanks, ive never used cologne before in my life so I don’t even know where to start

>>18493500
>IFRA
>witchhunts
Can't witchhunt yourself. IFRA is run by the perfume producers themselves.

>>18490705 (OP)
Very disappointed. Le Male Le Parfum smells great but has abismal performance. Elixir’s top notes smell like medicine and are cloying, at least the dry down smells good and lasts longer than half an hour like Le Parfum, but I’m not dropping any money on these. Gonna try Givenchy Gentleman Reserve Privee and some Valentino Uomo, heard those are solid.

>>18493663
>samples
go away, brokefag

>>18493663
have you tried Dior Homme Intense?

>>18493151
Rate Chanel Les Exclusifs.

>>18493663
>half an hour like Le Parfum
noselet or highly diluted samples

I got this Kenzo, not bad but the original from early 90s is still the best.

>>18493501
I find it most technically impressive how Interlude 53 deviated from the classical structure of IES + hedione and low impact musks which are omnipresent in modern perfumery. In my experience working on projects of the sort, amouages core philosophy seems to be focusing on single high impact materials and balancing them with each other, creating giant structures around them to support the core elements. In the case of interlude, its a quite interesting oud and leather accord. Most impressive is the fact that it has a 53% concentration despite being cat. 4.
In regards to its flankers like interlude and interlude black iris I cannot divulge too much besides that I don’t like them

>>18493789
As a perfumer, what do you think of nicolai?

>>18493800
She isn’t really part of the industry in the sense that most of her products are old Guerlain formulas that were rejected for one reason or another, from what I’ve heard she mostly adjusts them price-wise and allergen-wise. Before being a fully fledged perfumer I worked on evaluating new molecules. I happened to come across some of her works. Back then they struck me as particularly thin, maybe that’s because I had Guerlain in mind, but I’d be lying if I said that I’m well versed in the makeup of her current catalogue.

>>18493801
I think that she’s a bad perfumer and a kike

>>18493801
Politically speaking, is it worth poisoning people with these chemical substances for profit?

>>18493801
Why do perfumers have such respect for Francois Demachy?

>>18493803
I think Jews are fine people, I had an Israeli coworker that originally worked in the agricultural field at the volcani institute, he was very smart and funny
>>18493805
All the molecules we use are completely safe, the European Union requires all our products to be allergen safe etc. In the past, Perfumery used to be a little more “wild West” style, meaning that a lot of materials weren’t as regulated as they are nowadays, coumarin for example used to be added to pudding and cakes. >>18493807
He’s extremely proficient at his craft and responsible for some of the greatest fragrances of the 21st century, that’s mostly it.

is it me or does this just smell bad even after the opening? i dont get why its so popular.

>>18493810
Who do your colleagues think is the best historically and nowadays perfumer?

>>18493810
Okay, so you don't like her because she's a woman?

>>18493813
Depends who I ask, but Hervé This, François Coty, Jacques Polge and Dominique Ropion are usually first picks

Vanderbilt

Reminds me of chanel no. 5.
Soapy, flowery, in a vulgar and somewhat dirty way. Also warm spicy.
In the opening white flowers are really strong, almost violent, then they gradually get replaced by sandalwood. The soapiness of aldehydes remains persistent and dominant throughout.
I hate it.

>>18493810
>responsible for some of the greatest fragrances of the 21st century
What are your favourites by Demachy?

>>18493811
It's popular because people have no taste and just want the strongest clone of the most popular expensive fragrance

>>18493537
Maahir Black Edition

If this is how Imagination smells, then it truly is an uninspiring and overrated slop

Reckless frag buyer noselet here. >>18490835

After 5 or so days I can say I enjoy all 3 purchases a lot more than day one. Maybe it's the heightened expectations I had at the time, maybe it's air being let into the bottle, maybe it's my mind rationalizing the scents to make them seem more pleasant, or that I'm telekinetically editing, tweaking and rearranging the molecules, but here's what I'm getting now...

>Davidoff Cool Water
Still overrated as shit but I'm getting less of those "plastic doll" notes than the first time, a little bit more of those marine notes and now it lingers well. This was not the case on first spray at all where it had the most unsettling effect for me. I like it more now but I can't say I like it overall.

>H24 Herbes Vives
I still dislike Herbes Vives but I don't hate it. It still smells like chemical slop and gourmand dill notes (lmao) but I'm finding parts of it that I actually appreciate. Mostly making use of it as a room spray.

>Encre Noir
To slight surprise, Encre Noir has jumped to being my favorite of the 3. It smelled so cheap and with an odd undertone >>18490926 that I was put off. That odd undertone appears to have faded completely now and I'm in earthy ink heaven. Wtf. I am convinced that letting in a bit of air to cycle in the bottle actually does something. >>18490986


>>18492056
>muh psychology jargons
So irritating and constraining. I always hate those kinds of interpretation of psychology. Those labels are something you would use when building a robot/AI... but mere-exposure effect certainly makes sense.

>>18493810
>I think Jews are fine people
Whoa whoa whoa stopped reading there

>>18493810
What do you think are the best oud fragrances on the market right now?

NEW THREAD
>>18493898
>>18493898
>>18493898
>>18493898

>>18493143
is the EDP more rounded (less zingy citrus) than the EDT? I like the edt, but I find the citrus somewhat tiring/cloying after a while
Or is any "rounded" alternative?

>>18490705 (OP)
I expected to be wowed by Fougere Royale, and was generally disappointed. I think Pour un Homme de Caron is just better.

>>18493847
Yes. Imagination and all of its clones all smell like laundry detergent. The only reason people give a fuck about this frag is because a bunch of basketball players pushed it, and they're retarded. L'Immensite is the far better of the DNA and it's still not particularly good.