Thread 18492045

/btg/ BOOT GENERAL - HATCH GRAIN EDITION

What do I need to care for my boots?
>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)
>Horsehair brush ($10-15)
>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)
>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bck4/renovateur
>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP
>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest them

How do I deal with x stain?
>mud: allow it to dry then brush off
>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible
>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper
>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush

>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?
No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.
>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're good
no. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.
>Are Thursdays any good?
no.

Manufacturer Red Flags
>Luxury
>Bespoke
>Sustainable
>Vegan
>Unknown leather source
>Made in Chyna/Mexico/Indonesia

Boot Red Flags
>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)
>C*rk/C*lastic
>Zippers
>Non gusseted tongues
>Excessive/unnecessary seams
>Combination/mixed material heels

Boot Brands NO
>Turdsdays
>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters
>any Whatsapp makers in the far east

PREV>>18479647

https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/ftc_gov/pdf/oak-street-mfg-letter.pdf

thoughts on OSB being actually made in chyna

>>18492200
When did this happen? They used to be made in Buffalo in the same factory as Parkhurst before Parkhurst moved to Spain
Is this recent?

>>18492200
Where did this image come from? I can't find anything on any of the usual forums or r*ddit about it. This is the only time I've ever seen this

>>18492213
>Where did this image come from?
the link is right there wtf

>>18492212
can you read? look at the date
>>18492213
>Where did this image come from
the FTC

>>18492242
Weird how reddit hasn't been discussing this. They love to talk about this shit

Vince from Truman is the one that made the complaint to the FTC. This dude is pretty as fuck

>>18492250
>get caught lying about their manufacturing
>noooooo he reported us
get fucked OSB

>>18492250
*petty

>>18491988
>>18491923
how about I just use the boots and when I get tired of the soles or the soles get too much wear I resole the boots

>>18492363
that's far too rational and heterosexual a solution for /btg/ /fa/ggots

>>18492250
How do you know? His Twitter was fun at times but seems he deleted it.

>>18492400
>delete your company's twitter because you're assmad people complain about shit quality
>claim its because you have things to do around the house

How does Meermin Negon last run? Their chart claims that US Size-1 is enough, but if I'm going by actual feet measurements, I should actually go 1.5-2 sizes down to get a snugly fit.

Beautiful day. Love me Red Wings. Simple as.

>>18492200
>thoughts on OSB being actually made in chyna
Literally doesn't matter.

>>18492247
https://www.reddit.com/r/Boots/comments/1m58iz8/ummmm/

The actual FTC link:
https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/ftc_gov/pdf/oak-street-mfg-letter.pdf

>>18492511
It does if they lied about it.
>>18492544
lel at those soiboys complaining about Truman owner being a chud

>>18492544
I don't really understand the letter, are the boots not made in the USA or is it because the leather and other materials is probably European on some of their boots?

>>18492553
hand sewn mocs and stormline are NOT made in the USA despite OSB's claims of ALL their footwear as made in USA

The Oak Street FTC complaint was very obviously made by Vince, who is absolutely unhinged
No shit they're not made completely in the USA. CF Stead is a British tannery, Dainite is a British company, etc.
Oak Street should say "made in USA of imported materials" but yeah, it's very obvious Vince was the one that filed the complaint

>>18492558
Didn't he post the text of the letter on Truman's Instagram kek

>>18492558
i mean has OSB tried NOT breaking the rules

>>18492563
Has Vince tried making good boots?

>>18492566
irrelevant, OSB is violating the rules no matter who sent the complaint in the first place

>>18492568
OSB might have broken a rule. I'd still prefer any pair of OSBs over Trumans right now.

>>18492556
desu that reads like they're mad the leather is imported

>>18492819
its very likely their handsewns are made in DR

>>18492821
in the whites factory?

w2c these boots? looks like rw blacksmiths to me, but the last kinda looks like the indy boots

>>18492566
Not my style but Truman seems to make good quality boots.
>inb4 exceptions
Not an argument.

>>18492944
>Truman seems to make good quality boots
AHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAWJAHAHAHAHAHA JAHAHAHAAHAHAHA JAHAHA
Hi Vince! First day on 4chan?

>>18492921
indy for sure
>lower heel
>that curl up at the tip from the faux moc

some boots have the toes like pointed up? Like im looking at some vibergs and the toes are pointed up, not flat. What is this?

>>18493289
>What is this?
toe spring

>>18493289
give hime the >truman.webm

picrel

>>18493289
>>18493361
its called a sprung toe

>>18493363
ok...so i just asked the internet robot and it said it can be bad for your toes. Are they bad or good

>see cool boots with no zipper online
>order them
>boots arrive
>they have a zipper
>check website
>now there's a zipper in all of the pictures
i'm not gonna change them because it would take like 3 weeks and they actually look good but what the fuck dude?

>>18493368
why are they bad

>>18493421
it says they can fuck with your toe biomechanics or some shit I closed the tab. But it said it can cause hyper toe extension or something. It said they were for arthritic people who needed help, and they were for like help walking up and down hills.

I find the internet robot talk bots really shitbrained generally so I don't know if any of that is true.

>>18493469
chatgpt just regurgitates whatever broscience reddit regurgitates

>>18493469
the intention of the sprung toe is to improve your gait, so that its more of a rolling action instead of a slap when you go from heel to toe
>hyper toe extension
i believe that is alleviated by the fact that sprung toes usually have a higher arch/heel so that it doesn't happen

>>18493368
>so i just asked the internet robot
stop

> Are they bad or good
not good

>>18493368
Why would you ask AI and then seriously come to us with that?

Are John Fluevog's good quality or am i being gypped online by some know-nothing.
"resoleable & reheelable"

>>18493564
anon those look terrible
why?

>>18493564
what the fucking fuck man

what are you thinking?

RW bros...

>>18493747
>I spilled paint on my boots so I'll put some more paint on them to make it look as if it was intentional

>>18493758
i mean thats what MM did with their GATs

it feels like andrew lowered the instep on the 602m compared to the 602 because it feels much better for me

>>18493747
Red Wing only ever releases new colours of the moctoe. Never any of their old models. What the fuck is their problem?

Dunno how having the moctoe in 50 different colours is good business but I guess it is

>>18493954
It's their most popular boot and they're making sure there's a color for anyone

>>18492045 (OP)

Looking to get some comfier daily all rounder boots. I see keanue reeves seem to make both styles work.

Which should I get and looks more natural to wear in public? The top ones are on sale for nearly 50% off but are still basically double the price of the bottom.

And with danner boots (mountain lights) you have to size down half right? Eg if I'm a 10us in most sneakers I get a 9.5us in the danner boots?

>>18493361
I've only ever heard it referred to as a "portland fag curve"

>>18494106
bottom are only worn by 350lb neckbeards playing their switch 2 in public

>>18494176
I own a pair of Merrell Moabs but they're my designated hiking boots. I'd never wear them to work or anything

>>18494106
https://www.parkhurstbrand.com/collections/new-releases/products/the-allegany-ridge-kudu

>>18493745
>>18493577
I SWEAR I DID NOT MEAN ANYTHING ON THEIR WEBSITE RIGHT NOW, THESE CAUGHT MY EYE.

>>18494311
i wish to go back to a time when i hadn't seen this

>>18494311
>>18494394
they are literally shoes for gay men

>>18494400
and not even good ones because of the zipper

It sucks Wolverine 1000 Mile boots are such a risky purchase because when they're good and well made, they look incredible worn in
Part of me still wants a pair because they were the original boot that got me into GYW footwear because I saw a pic of them a million years ago and was like "those are cool, i want to find out what they are" and I discovered GYW footwear
Thanks for reading my blog or whatever

>>18494311
>fag straps
>fag zipers
what the fucking fuck

>>18494507
i had a pair for a week before i sold them the leather sole was way too thin

>>18494507
I just hate Wolverine for personal reasons. I swore to myself that I'd never wear Wolverine boots ever again.

>Wesco had my size in the Boss 7500 in stock.
>Nigs ready to ship had the boots I wanted to build in stock in my size.
My wallet is sad but my heart is happy.

I haven't bought new boots since 2021

>>18494839
back when you could get a good pair for $300

>>18494841
Well it was my Indy boots which cost 575 back then which was very overpriced but to be fair they're probably 700 now

>>18494751
I wish they had a midsole or something but yeah. If I ever do decide to get a pair it will be the one with the rubber vibram sole

>>18494843
Man I wish they were 700 in yuroland.

Can anyone ID these?

>>18494850
sucks to cuck, loser

>>18494954
rw beckmans

I want these so bad

>>18494975
chicken loafers are a flex

>>18494957
what leather?

NIGGER SHOES?!

wtf berwick

how do I care for suede? got some desert boots and I sprayed them with a protectant and let sit overnight but I want to know what cleaning and conditioning stuff I should use later on

>>18495478
nothing, it's suede. just brush them when they're dirty
combat boots are made of suede, they're durable as fuck

>>18495216
cigar

When one of your laces snap do you replace just the broken pair or replace both pairs

>>18495650
I just buy a new pair of boots

Anyone have experience with Ludwig Reiter? They say true to size, but looking at their size guide they seem to run a bit larger.

europoor, never had boots, want to get something semi decent that can withstand some trashing and won't make me want to kill myself when they get dirty
what are some decent budgety brands to look for?

>>18495657
name the budget negro

>>18495459
i saw that too, i think its autotranslated "negro"

>>18495658
200$ let's say

>>18495660
let''s say that's not gonna happen unless you get used

>>18495668
what's a bare minimum then

>>18495670
like 250 for berwicks or loake 1880s
then red wings and septieme largeur
then TLB mallorca for fantastic value
and high end carmina c&j

>>18495660
Not happening with that budget
350 is when you get access to "good" boots

>>18495482
>combat boots are made of suede
no

>>18495684
Every single pair I wore was

>>18495675
thanks

>>18495687
roughout

>>18495660
Panama Jack. Glued sole so not resoleable but good for what they are.
Astorflex might be found at a little over 200 yuros, but they tend to be crepe soles (soft and comfortable but ugly and wears out quicker than other soles), might be able to find them at 200 or under in sale somewhere.
Jim Green has some models 200 and under, wide as fuck toebox, best beaters if you can stomach how ugly they are.

>>18495650
Both and keep the non-snapped as backup. If one lace snapped, pdds are that tge other one is pretty frayed already.

Yes or no?
>https://www.burgundschild.com/en/products/m-43-service-shoe-camel
Been meaning to get a pair of boondockers. Don't know much about Buzz Rickson though. Usually just been eyeing brands like Viberg/Lofgren. Decent discount on these!

>>18495893
Buzz Rickson is good, and those look amazing. Get them anon and enjoy
If they had my size i'd probably get a pair myself

>>18495893
>those treads
good for the first year and nothing but slippy wippy until you replace the soles

>>18495899
Alright fuck it I'll get them lel. Thanks. Hopefully they'll fit. Can't find many reviews so I'll just go with half down from brannock and hope that works.
>>18495901
Yeah lel probably not alot of grip. Won't be wearing them during winter though

best boots for custodial work? walking and standing all day

>>18495913
Anything with a wedge sole's good for standing on hard surfaces all day. Start with Red Wing and Thorogood

bros, my corporate office job that i hated fell apart and i quit rather than get fucked over anymore
the job search has been absolutely terrible and i've decided to just work construction. best boots for construction?

>>18495675
Do any of these have decent arch support? I only have normal arches, but I need support other plantar fascitis kicks in.

>>18495973
arch support comes from your arch and foot
train your feet

any work boots brands that are comfortable in europe?

>>18494850
Have a look here:
https://www.luosjiet.com/products/indiana-jones-boot-mens-moctoe-boots-brown-grain-cowhide

>>18495914
jesus fucking christ the white sole looks retarded

what's a cheap ass beater black boot that looks like something a sailor from 1910 would wear? I want to wear it with dark pants with a navy duffle coat and a red wool cap

>>18496264
where are they skimping?

>>18496364
iron rangers come to mind as being >cheap
and not terribly made

>>18496367
Probably the leather is from noname Asian tanneries. Though Alden has a large brand markup, well beyond what the boots are actually worth, so they may not be skimping as much as you think.
I'm considering buying a pair of the chink ones to see. Can't go far wrong at that price, they could just be beaters.

>>18496373
oops meant for>>18496367

>>18496368
nah, man, when I say cheap ass boot I mean under 100$

>>18496376
this general is not for you

Is Wesco pretty much it as far as harness boots go these days?

>>18496377
I don't care what you made up internet words are

>>18496378
you're right, I don't spend my mom's credit card the underage users here

>>18496376
lol
not even doc shitters territory

>>18496367
Leather and sole, but honestly Alden is very overpriced. It's probably not a bad deal. It's the same owner as XBXS, which are good quality and just hated outside China because the owner steals designs from Clinch and openly hates the Japanese. This is just their basic/budget line using domestic materials.

>>18496379
Yes, unless you're going for a much more expensive custom order. It's just not a popular style, so you've got ultra cheap garbage, Wesco, and expensive MTO.

>>18496379
yeah unless you wanna go with the japanese stuff

>>18496379
>faggot harness
not even once

Anyone know which model this is? Some sort of unstructured blacksmith?

>>18496368
are there boots similar to iron rangers that are cheaper or is that not possible?

>inb4 used

>>18496407
used

>>18496401
seems like it

best leather conditioner for a bridal leather belt and wallet that were already in need of a conditioning to begin with, then got thrown in the wash? anything else i should do to restore them? they just seem dry as fuck.

>>18496509
renovateur?
but might be too strong

>>18496509
>Saphir Medaille d'Ors popular leather lotion, here in a version with macadamia oil instead of mink oil. Macadamia has the same very nourishing properties as mink oil, but is completely vegetable-based. A conditioner that is very easy that penetrates the leather and moisturises, nourishes and protects. Works wonders with dry, brittle and cracked leather.

>Use it on all types of leather products such as gloves, belts, briefcases, handbags, wallets and more.

>>18496509
i'd put it in a high airflow area (no heat) for 24 hrs then hit it with obernauf LP oil, it'll darken a bunch on first contact but its one of the few conditioners that really soaks deep into the leather

>>18496511
>>18496514
>>18496516
here's the gore.
i really just want to get the wallet decent again.
the belt i care less about, its my beater on its 19th year of life, it needed to be replaced soon anyhow.

if the belt could get functional but ugly again that'd be sweet though. the fucked up look would go with my wabi sabi visible mending type fits so it'd probably get occasional use.

>>18496376
For 100 just go to your local mall and pick whatever looks good enough for you.

>>18496376
you can thrift good boots at that price and do a resole but you'll have to learn how to tell good boots from shit ones first.
surplus jungle boots i guess if you just need beaters.

>>18496539
a little LP oil goes a long way

>>18496407
Might catch heat for this but Thursday Heritage Captains.

>>18495973
Arch support is an American affectation.

>>18496852
not similar and I can't believe you'd recommend that circus heel

>>18492045 (OP)
SHOE TREES
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>>18496965
Besides shoe trees, which are a must have, I recommend:

>Lincoln Stain Wax
Apply hot to seep into pores.
>Tanner's Oil,
Apply 4x per year plus after water exposure.
>Kevlar Boot Laces
If it's not high fashion, this is utility.

So I know that meermin loafers are dogshit because of the stiffeners but how are their boots?
Are they as bad or actually alright?

>>18496965
shoe trees fuck up the toe puff and make the shoe look pointy
you see the same thing after they come off the anvil at a cobbler when getting resoled

>>18496985
for dress use they're alright

>>18497317
Parkhurst look well built but goddamn those repulsive commando soles ruin the entire silhouette. They should replace them with stubbed soles.

>>18497477
Those are Vibergs

>>18497477
>>18497500
pffffffttt

>>18497477
agreed commando heels are awful

>>18497500
They look ugly as well.

>>18492045 (OP)
>Boot Red Flags
>>Dainite
Why is dainite bad?
If I can get boots that look good but are on a dainite sole with no way of chanign it to a vibram sole is that okay?

>>18497968
Dainite is digshit any time it's wet or slippery. I've fallen on my ass from Dainite so many times
Besides that it's just a very hard compound and it's not super comfy to stand on all day

>>18497968
>Why is dainite bad?
Nothing. A lot of Vibergs have them. OP just copy/pastes the same thread over and over again without ever thinking about it. He probably just had one bad experience and decided to blame the outsoles.

>>18497968
hydroplanes like fuck in urban environments
treads not deep enough for outdoor use
honestly they're good for the first year when the nubs of the stud still protrudes beyond the sole, once you wear past that point its slip city

>>18497972
yeah I've read a few people complaining about dainite in the wet which worries me because rain is when I would be wearing this pair that I'm eyeing up
>>18497973
>Nothing. A lot of Vibergs have them.
don't care about viberg but have (you) had a pair with dainite?

That said I should just email the company and ask if they could make a pair for me with a different sole.

>>18497976
>rain is when I would be wearing this pair that I'm eyeing up
rip
lost 3 friends to dainite on wet tile

>>18497995
rip bootbros

Reminder: You should ignore posts that don't start with a capital letter and end with a period. These people don't have money or valid thoughts about boots.

>>18498004
thats esl behavior

>>18498004
you are so fucking mad

>>18498004
fag

where do i get non pointy boots in the eu
solovairs?

>>18498004
capital letters and punctuation are marks of a mobileshitter

>>18497995
>wet tile
That's what you get for trying to squeeze in 4 gay men wearing studded dainite in the same public shower. Foot fungus is the least of your problem

>>18497976
> have (you) had a pair with dainite?
I've had a pair of Oxfords from AE I got after graduating that I wore for years. Never had an issue, but I was not splashing around in puddles like a common imbecile.

Also, stop misusing parentheses. It makes you look like you don't touch grass.

>>18498393
>Also, stop misusing parentheses. It makes you look like you don't touch grass.
cunt

>>18498308
Their derby boots are round/clown shoe looking yeah (spoken as someone who loves clown shoes)

>>18498934
nice. any alternatives? (because the OP seems to not recommend them) if there are none I'm seriously considering those (the less chunky derby boots)

>>18492045 (OP)
Thoughts on those? What's most versatile, black or brown?

>>18498994
ugly

>>18498994
I'd say brown

>>18498994
They have other models that are less ugly.

>>18498952
Just get Red Wing.

I'm this close to pulling the trigger on some Alden snuff suede LHS loafers.

But I've ever been good at caring for suede with other (cheaper) shoes, so I'm nervous I'm gonna fuck it up and hate myself later

>>18492045 (OP)
any comfy safety boots for hot weather? my company enforces them but they one they gave us hurt my feet

>>18500290
Suede is the most retard proof material there is, literally just brush away the dirt every so often and spray some saphir invulner on it every 6 months, it's impossible to screw it up.

>>18492045 (OP)
Which colour do you think I should get?

>>18500980
brown

>>18500980
black

Longshot but looking for ID on these?

>>18501338
alden indy

>>18501338
https://www.aldenshop.com/collections/casual-boots/products/4011hc-the-original-indy-boot-snuff-suede

are there any good brands that do chelsea work boots?

I'm guessing the major tools brands Dewalt/JBC/Caterpillar all sell dogshit ones?

>>18500290
Suede is very low maintenance and durable but it can stain quite easily. If you spill wine or sauce or piss on it it'll be harder to fix than other leather. Invest in some Invulner.

>>18501473
>If you spill wine or sauce or piss on it it'll be harder to fix
Great night though

need cool unlined, someone linked forest boots fucking years ago in kudu suede and I ignored them but I need something cool for my feet that is a step above mesh tennis shoes in terms of looks

>>18493408
I would legit kill someone

>>18501338
>longshot
>posts some of the most recognizable and iconic boots of all time

Redpill on Frye boots? A pair caught my eyes at the thrift and they fit really good so I got them for $20. I saw later they were like $400 retail. Are they that good or is that just meme pricing?

Is my shit too dry? Sorry for my messy car

>>18501797
>UNMATCHED SOCKS
sir, you will be executed

>>18501797
could use a light coat

>>18501795
They're just riding off their name from last century while selling mystery meat boots filled with foam and garbage materials
Frye, Chippewa, Wolverine, they're all the same. Red Wing mogs them all

>>18501804
are you literally retarded?

>>18501810
stop pretending like it's ok
just promise to not do it again

>>18501797
I like em
yeah oil your boots. what are they if you don't mind me asking?

>>18501809
based red wing enjoyer

>>18501804
Oh yeah I got dressed in the dark this morning.
>>18501806
Thanks.
>>18501819
Quoddy ranger mocs. Great for flying if you don't have TSA precheck

Are Munson type lasts usually supposed to have a lot of extra toe room in the front? Because I have like slightly over a thumb width of extra space in my new boots. Seems like it might be a big excessive lel so I'm thinking maybe I should have gone full size down. Difficult to determine rest of the fit as the leather is so stiff

>>18501927
you talking lengthwise or verticalwise? they are supposed to have more vertical room

>>18501927
Wear thicker socks. If you still need a tighter fit, a leather insert can help.

>>18501834
Thanks anon!

>>18501931
Length
>>18501945
Overall fit might not be bad. Gonna need some breaking in. If I don't end up returning them.

>>18501980
My rule of thimb is a thumb of extra space in front of the tors. Terrible pun intended. Less than that becomes uncomfortable in the long run, more than that it messes up my gait and I end up with pain on my feet if I'm walking for hours.
I also learned the hard way that if given the choice between a size that's a tad too big and one that's a tad too small, it's better to go for the bigger size because you can fix it somewhat with inserts and thick socks. There's no fixing a boot that's too small.
You probably won't be 100% sure until your boots are broken in and by that time it'll be too late to return them.

>>18501980
your feet can swell up to a half size throughout the day, especially after doing army stuff all day as long as it is snug around the waist and heel you'll be ok (wear darntoughTM wool socks)

>>18496960
kneel

>>18496852
>>18502016
damn thursday made something that looks nice?
I say that but I own one of their leather low-tops.

Deco Square or GG06 last for a pair of black English grain Urban Commandos from G&G?

Got these new old stock boots for 30 dollaridos. Red tag marlboro classics, goodyear welted and full leather construction. Can't find much on them apart from the fact they might be made by Dan Post.

Got these new old stock boots for 30 dollaridos. Red tag marlboro classics, goodyear welted and full leather construction. Can't find much on them apart from the fact they might be made by Dan Post.

>>18502354
Nice find.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUGG3uJGy1Y

$150
Goodyear welt
veg tan insole and midsole
no foam inside the boot
only cheaped out on the outsole, which can be replaced.

Are these just Thursdays but way better? They seem worth buying.

>>18502461
>made in Mexico
>praised by a guy who thinks Thursdays is great quality
>having the outsole replaced by a competent cobbler is probably gonna cost more than the boot itself
Or you could buy Red Wings and save yourself the hassle.

>>18502538
>made in Mexico
Not an issue. Gotta be made somewhere.
>praised by a guy who thinks Thursdays is great quality
Well I am praising them, based on what I see
>having the outsole replaced by a competent cobbler is probably gonna cost more than the boot itself
True, but doesn't that kind of mean they are a good value? If you are in the market for boots and have $150 to spend, I'd buy these in a heartbeat. Resole them in a year.

>>18502538
But I will agree, finding Red Wings on ebay for $200 is an even better value.

>>18502563
>Get red wing factory seconds for $150
>literally best boots I got
if it weren't for the fact wearing a cap toe on formal occasions looks fucking gay, it'd weari t everywhere

>>18502556
>If you are in the market for boots and have $150 to spend, I'd buy these in a heartbeat. Resole them in a year.
But after all's said and done you'll be down $300+ when you could've paid that much for RW from the get-go and gotten a better quality product that's not made from mystery meat Mexican leather plus whatever cost-cutting is going on that you don't see besides the polyurethane sole. If you don't have the 300 on hand to buy the boot in one go then use one of those interest free instant credit things that are all the rage right now.

>>18502255
As someone with both get the Deco Square. It’s one of G&G’s best lasts and the quintessential UC last.

>>18495893
>>18495908
Amazing build quality, looks nice, and fit is good. Yet still I don't really feel any urge wanting to wear them. What is wrong with me? Think I'm maybe gonna have to return them. I have no rational explanation for it. Just prefer my Burfords simple as

>>18494194
Moab lows can rarely look okay, and some 1trl stuff is cool, but the boots don't look great.

>>18496852
Nice boots but get better pants man.

>>18502385
thanks friend, they're a little tight but I've had tighter leather boots adjust over time

>>18503297
Thight where?

>>18503305
Right on the top of the foot (have this problem with most boots) and on the toe box. Gave them to my cobbler to loosen them up a bit and they already fit much better.

>>18503321
>top of the foot
You probably just have a high arch. Yeah, the boots would mold to it in time.
>the toe box
That's a bit mote problematic, but if just a few mm, shoetrees that are a tad too big can help.

>>18492045 (OP)
Kleman Frodan, yes or no? For 180€ (it's a lot for me)

>>18503525
>glued dad shoes

>>18503527
Rec me something around that price pls

>>18503527
biggest problem I have is everything that I like looks like a Dad shoe. To the point that I'm not sure what a normal shoe looks like anymore. to the point where a better sense of me wants to give up the boot dream and go all low-top sneakers all the time.

>>18503527
Well what I really want is pic relate but idk what they are except "derbies", if someone knows the brand please tell me

>>18503527
chunky derbies are kino though?

>>18503530
Spend a little extra, get some Paraboot michaels

>>18503539
>grandpa Wallabees
>but in leather
ew

>>18503537
not with the moc stitch

>>18503525
I have a pair of Kleman, they are good. The soles are great for walking, and the shoes look good and go with everything.

>>18503581
post them

>>18503534
yeah but those are true handsewns which is a step above the faux moc

>>18503539
They look cool but too expensive for me, I found these instead

>>18503723
I'm not sure if I should get this version of this one tho

>>18503736
shiny looks cheaper

>>18503740
Yeah I agree, just realized nothing is available on their site tho, fuck

>>18503751
save up for the paraboots

>>18503756
Yeah I saw that you can also get them on vinted for 200 bucks or so, half the price, I might buy them this way

I went for it. We'll see how they fit. Supposedly they're esoteric Japanese foot shaped ultra high instep. Maybe I have that maybe not.

>>18503539
I want a pair of boots like these but I have double wide (4e) hobbit feet so I just get owned

>>18503723
>>18503736
based
>>18503740
also true.

effay?

Picked up Alden snuff suede LHS from the shoe mart.

The defect is a cut into the material about 1 cm in length

Fucked or not? It doesn't really bother me but I'm wondering if, with a lot of wear, it'll get worse

>>18504010
These are factory seconds*** just to be clear

>>18504010
not a flex point plus the c*lastic should keep the leather in shape

>>18504010
How much cheaper were they?

>>18503880
LOOKS LIKE A SHOPPING BAG

>>18504010
you could try to seal it with a small amount of carpenters glue, which works well for leather. I sealed a goodyear welt that separated on a pair of boots I have that way.
it would be a tricky job though, you want to make sure you don't have any glue squeeze out which could stain the surface if you miss it. Squeeze out can be wiped away while it's still wet with water and the corner of a cloth.
can't really clamp it. but maybe if you put the shoe on it's side and put a couple of heavy books or weights on the top side, the cut would come together enough for the glue to seal it. You might need to pressure on the face with the cut too, to make sure the cut does splay outwards from the downward pressure.
I would perform a dry run (no glue) to see if you can apply weight/pressure to the shoe in such a away as to get the cut to close, and in a way that can be left for a couple of hours for glue to dry. if you're not confident in the "clamping" set up, don't proceed with using glue.

Need a boot for late fall and winter stuff, any recs? Thinking of a moc.

>>18503799
They were nice boots for a very good price, but the last did not work at all for me sadly.

>>18504181
What did you end up getting instead? If anything

>>18504197
Nothing as of yet, i guess I'm always looking out for Clinch on their wider last, but the price and uncertainty if the last will work makes me think it'll never happen anyway.

>>18504115
perfect

>>18504057
$470 vs $710

>>18504051
>>18504123
thank you both
i may give that a shot if it gets any wrose. for now, i think i will keep it and not touch it

>Untamed Street
Anybody tried them out?

>>18504010
>>18504333
If they are US10 E return and grab these https://abbotsshoes.com/collections/new-arrivals/products/frans-boone-leisure-tan-brown-suede-loafers-uk-9-us-10-e?variant=55699428442490

>>18504566
they actually are 10E
hmmm...why do you suggest trading in for these? a new shoe w/ a defect vs a used shoe which has conformed to someone else's foot (sincere ask)

>>18504575
>conformed to someone else's foot
this is a very overstated thing that doesn't exactly happen as most imagine. Anyway if you look at the sole, this was worn maybe two, three times. A lot better than factory seconds with a big cut in the leather.

>>18504585
Honestly it depends how old they are. If they were worn for more than a couple months regularly, they will have a bit of an imprint of someone else's foot.

>>18494839
2023 for me. Yeah, the quality isn't there for the price, anymore. Plus, I have all the boots I need.

Lads, help me expand my wardrobe and boot options (especially boots). I already own a pair of Chink Stone Brass Boots in Crimson Kudu, not sure what to get now. I definitely need a good pair of hiking boots. I like the Brass Boots, but they're not 100% cut out for going through the rugged mountainous terrain I encounter.
Any suggestions? I like brown color the best if that matters.
>Budget somewhere in the $400s or lower

>>18504500
>pre delaminated

>>18504668
White's Semi Dress

>>18504689
Anon, those are $740 on their website

>>18504695
and yet they are distinct enough from your already owned pairs and they're good for your terrain

>>18504697
That's still $340 north of my budget. That's a case of 7.62x51 ammo worth

>>18504722
then settle for less

>>18504668
try the new parkhursts

>>18504723
That is why I'm asking for options. There has to be more besides that.
>>18504724
I'll take a look.

>>18504725
i was like you once, constantly settling for less. wish someone had shilled me the White's from the start

if indiana jones wore a canvas boot instead of a leather one, which one would he wear?

>>18504668
>I definitely need a good pair of hiking boots
No you don't. Who tf wants to hike in boots? And the boots you're looking at will probably weigh like a brick on each foot. Just wear a trail shoe/sneaker to hike

>>18504830
Some of us have strong legs and backs and enjoy going into terrain with near vertical inclines, thorny bushes, possibly snakes, and a lot of rocks of the igneous type.
For example, consider the terrain of this small town. I recently acquired a plot of land there and the climate is fucking thick rugged and forested mountains

>>18504840
where is it? looks nice

>>18504861
Mexico, state of Guerrero. One of the small mountain villages deep in cartel territory.
I'm sure it'll be a nice place to live in like 30 years, they recently acquired high speed (100mbps!!!) Internet in the last 5 years but only in government centers like schools and very few homes. The farmhouse/homestead on the land I inherited has electricity, a pump for well water, septic tank, and a window AC unit! It's an old mud brick structure from the 1800s with a thatched roof. I have no plans for this place beyond a private hunting retreat for myself once a year. It's so far deep in the mountains that horseback or walking are the only viable methods to reach it

>>18504763
wait I figured it out, palladium originale

>>18504840
sounds like the White's are right up your alley, being worn by paratroop firefighters and all that

I just bought these and then saw they don't have a midsole.

>>18505013
>extruding pull tabs
lmao ngmi

>>18492045 (OP)
>they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use
Okay then why do my solovairs hurt so good and feel so heavy

>>18505013
They don't?

some or the funniest things about the boot industry is the fake "heritage" surrounding so many popular styles
the red wing iron ranger as we know it today didn't really exist before 2008. it was created as an archival pattern based off a boot red wing made for a while in the 70s/80s. all of the "muh iron minors muh heritage" is marketing bullshit. sure, the iron miners probably wore similar boots, but the iron ranger is from the mid 2000s
same with the viberg 2030, which they say comes from canadian wwii boots and all that shit. nope, they made the boot around the same time as red wing when the "lifestyle" heritage boot craze was really gaining traction. not to mention viberg got the last shape from dayton, so their wwii is just bs anyway
the deeper you dig into this stuff, the more bullshit you find

>>18505013
bait? you can literally see it in your pics

>>18505013
Guess that means you're zesty now, huh?

>>18504925
Sovl. Might as well try Unmarked if you’re in Mexico. I bought a pair like 3 years ago and they’ve been holding up nicely. Their counters and toes are celastic, but apparently they switched to leather now; personally idgaf, but it’s something to point out.

Anyone know how I can find out the size of my solovair? I need new ones but forgot which size they are

>>18505157
>I need new ones
no the fuck you don't

>>18504668
I can recommend the Meindl Perfekt. Made in Germany, single, oiled leather construction, Norwegian welt, Vibram montagna outsole and tough as nails. No goretex bullshit. Only downside is they weigh a little over 1kg each and there is a break in period, but you don't seem to mind. They're also in the $400 range.

I've climbed mt Olympus with them so I can personally vouch for their quality and performance. They're heavy duty and they've handled rainfall, mud, snow, creek crossings and sharp rocks no problem. I can take a pic of them if you'd like to see how they held up, I plan to take them hiking again this month and the next.

>>18505124
I don't think anyone would actually want any shoes made after patterns made in the late 19th century, shoes back then sucked.

>>18505157
Just remeasure your foot and then get the boot 1-1.5 cm longer than your foot. Foot flat on the ground then draw the outline and measure from bottom of heel to tallest toe. They have the mondopoints listed for each product. Make sure you draw around instead of under your heel/toe

is the current red wing beckman with the flat toebox as close as you can get to the rw merchant they discontinued a few years back?
the merchant was made on the no. 8 last like the IR and blacksmith, but without the toe bump
the new beckman is made on the 224 last, the old version was made on the 8 last as well

>>18505013
there is a midsole though, who the hell lasted these anyway?

>>18505069
>>18505133
>>18505268
The ones in the picture are the stitchdown version. The GYW version has no midsole. But maybe they are hand welted, so they don't need a midsole.

>>18505572
>But maybe they are hand welted, so they don't need a midsole.
what are you on about

>>18505069
>>18505133
>>18505268
>>18505572

>>18505582
If they are hand welted there is no void that needs to be filled with cork, and not having a midsole wouldn't compromise comfort as much.

>>18505584
ogre hands

>>18505584
Grim.

>>18505013
>faggot straps

>replying to bait over and over and over
this board will never learn

So I'm going back to college in the fall and made a request thread here: >>18505948

I'm a mature student so I'm trying to ditch the hoodies and sweatpants vibes that most kids got going on, but at the same time I don't want to be overdressed / business casual dork.

The guy in my thread recommended I switch to boots instead of sneakers , and he suggested a derby boot. Do you think this is a decent style recommendation for my needs? It does get cold here and snows a lot in the winter

I'm torn between a derby or a "service boot" - whatever it is , I'll be wearing it every single day for an academic year straight

>>18506040
White's MP

>>18506045
>White's MP

bro my budget is like $300 , max $400 , im not looking to start a collection or anything till I get a career , just a decent shoe that holds it together for ideally 2-3 years

And I've had basic nike shoes that held up since the 12th grade to this day, I'm not someone that accrues a lot of wear and tear to begin with beyond some scuffs.

>>18506040
or red wing blacksmiths but they are a little more upturned in the front

>>18506050
then settle for less

>>18506051
Ill look into these thanks

>>18506056

Which is fine with me , but what exactly are some brands in the "less" category I should be looking at that won't disinegrate in 6 months or something / aren't absolute bottom barrel.

>>18506059
Parkhurst

>>18506059
I’ve been doing a lot of this recently but if you’re looking for sub $300 solid quality derby boots then I have to shill Solovair

>>18506061
literally doesn't seem to exist for canada

>>18506066
thank you anon , yeah these would be my first boots , part of it is also seeing if its a style for me as well , so why dish out like $500+ on something that may or may not work right?

>>18506059
if you're poor and canadian then get wm moorby but they are literally worst of the worst. I own all three: wm moorby, red wing and whites. Don't do it you'll probably regret it

>>18506082
im digging the solovair suggestion from earlier , im not trying for worst of the worst either, something juuuust above it

I've bought dress shoes from Steve Madden before , they did the job fine , im not above it desu , ill get me some dr scholls inserts and as long as I can walk fine - nobody is paying THAT much attention to me desu

someone post the
>solovair.jpg

are "glossy" derbies considered lame? Or does nobody give a fuck?

This would be for everyday casual wear

>>18506040
>>18506050
If you're going to wear them daily you ideally want two pairs of boots plus shoe trees, you want to let the leather rest for at least 24 hours between uses.

>>18506130
they always look cheap without fail

>>18506160
Dumb opinion

Are chelsea boots still in fashion?

>>18506171
dumb response
he's right. shiny dress shoes are ok for some occasions but shiny everyday derbies look cheap as fuck

>>18506517
>>18506517
>>18506517
NEW
>>18506517
>>18506517
>>18506517

>>18505795
What's grim about it?