Thread 18493883

is it worth it to buy one or is it just a ミーム

when you say "japanese denim" do you mean like $800 jeans made by some bearded japanese hipster in kyoto that are cut like actual workman pants from 1910, or do you mean normal ass jeans from denim that was produced in japan?

the latter is definitely a step up from fast fashion crap and is recommended by me. the former, I wouldn't know, but it sounds really dumb, if I was going to blow money on something because thing japan it would be a panasonicu baiku with gokiso wheels

>>18493886
first one offers a lifetime repair warranty so the 800$ could be worth it.

>>18493887
No jeans is worth 800 dollarinos.

That depends. Personally I'm a schizoid hikikomori. Most leaders tend to be narcissists (also known as the warrior gene) and schizotypial/schizoid thinkers have autistic thinking without the cognitive impairment and for all of human history have tended to be either dysfunctional retards or paradigm shifting thinkers and transcendent virtuoso artists and the likes. My point is, those "chuds" were the most dangerous ones to the agenda behind the janny's. The only other time I experienced the same level of stalking and harassment as I did on 4chan was on 8ch /htg/ when anon discovered the James Alefantis instagram account & I went around warning newfags that Q Anon was a glowie attempt to split the investigation in half to take control of the narrative from the anons who found it and muddy the waters with disinfo.

>>18493883 (OP)
It depends if you order it from Japan as opposed to paying full retail price in western countries. A pair of $150 jeans in Japan will cost $250-270 in the US/Europe due to import duties. If you order a pair from Japan, you’ll be spending around $150-250 for something that is undeniably way nicer than a pair of mall slop department store jeans, and you’ll have them for at least a few years depending on how hard you wear your jeans. To me, that’s not that much money for something that I’m actually going to get a lot of use out of and that I’m going to thoroughly enjoy more than a piece of crap pair of jeans. However, I can also understand that spending $150-250 for jeans is a complete and total luxury that is unnecessary. This stuff won’t make you more stylish. It’s really just a hobby for people who already like this stuff

i was one of the first english speakers who started talking about denim on the internet and i started the denim general on here.
i bought these jeans all the way back in high school, pretty drippy for a kid in 2005. i have better fits but its a little nostalgic because i've been fading them off-and-on for so long.
a lot of the posts that look like me spamming are actually the other guy just copy and pasting my posts from the archives to try to confuse people and make it look like i'm spamming.

jewish people always project their own insecurity and image when insulting others. its a lack of creativity, low verbal iq etc.
>calls me schizo 9001 times
>most schizophrenic group of people on the planet
did you know the "chuddie" is a drawing of a jewish mischling kid who shot up a walmart and had nothing but bernie sanders stuff on his social media?
how did that ever become the avatar for non-self hating white men?
no wonder it's so ugly, hideous jew genetics.

how the half-jewish son of a jewish guy involved with a jewish sex trafficking cabal who posted nothing political except bernie sanders stuff somehow became the avatar for white men who don't hate themselves?

they are worth it but lots of other pants are worth it too
It’s about what you LIKE

based:
buying one or two pairs of jap jeans, wear and beat the shit out of them

gay:
buying two pairs of jap jeans every month alongside jackets, agonising over the quality of the fades, carefully calculating when to wash, posting "progress" photos on reddit after 50 "wears"

>>18493936
Raw selvedge Japanese denim sisters, how do we respond to this?

>>18493976
I mean, I have $200 "japanese" jeans that were actually made in north america, so am I allowed to participate? The answer is I don't tumble dry them, and I only wash them about every 1-2 months, but they're not my only pants even if they're my only jeans

>>18493891
>>18493912
>when anon discovered the James Alefantis instagram account & I went around warning newfags that Q Anon was a glowie attempt to split the investigation in half to take control of the narrative from the anons who found it and muddy the waters with disinfo
ummmmmmm hello BASED department.

>>18493912
>Jewish people always project their own insecurity and image when insulting others. its a lack of creativity, low verbal iq etc.
>calls me schizo 9001 times
>most schizophrenic group of people on the planet
>did you know the "chuddie" is a drawing of a jewish mischling kid who shot up a walmart and had nothing but bernie sanders stuff on his social media?
>how did that ever become the avatar for non-self hating white men?
>no wonder it's so ugly, hideous jew genetics.

>how the half-jewish son of a jewish guy involved with a jewish sex trafficking cabal who posted nothing political except bernie sanders stuff somehow became the avatar for white men who don't hate themselves?
this is all true. here's a re-upload of the el paso shooter's dad praising john of god on his youtube channel while sitting in front of a giant star of david: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD0USYJDIn4

>>18494057
What the schizo yappin about?

>>18493883 (OP)
>is it worth it
i think most grown adults who care about their appearance are used to spending about $150-300 for a pair of pants.
if it's your first time stepping outside of fast fashion, i would say that japanese jeans are a safe bet for something you will enjoy and get your money's worth from. they're the most popular men's pants that exist and versatile.

>>18493936
agree other than the progress photos part. its nice that you can look up a pair of jeans and get an idea what they're going to look like a year or two later. and it keeps the denim communities active.

>>18494045
totally. american made jeans with jap denim are great as well.

>>18493890
bespoke ones are easily worth $800++
but you are right it would be hard to justify ready to wear.
it's a weird thing to complain about though. high end japanese jeans are one of the least overpriced things in the entire fashion industry.
and the guy buying $800 pants doesn't care how much his clothes cost to make. people buy overpriced crap all the time the entire luxury, designer, watch and jewelry industries are built off of this.
you're not the audience so nobody really cares what you think. i don't say that to be rude i'm not the market for that stuff either.

>>18494059
hey aren't you that jew with schizophrenia who seethes about japanese denim all the time?

>>18494068
>>18494069
This ain’t your blog small son.

>>18494092
post your nose and show us you're not jewish.

>>18494101
Who are you talking to, schizo?

>>18494166
talking to the schizo (you)
who else?
>individuals with schizophrenia may experience intrusive, repetitive thoughts (obsessions) that can cause significant distress

>>18494169
Pure projection.

>>18494212
True schizo behavior is believing that everyone that talks back to you is the same guy. The reality is, every individual I this thread hates you because you're annoying, antagonistic, disruptive, and repetitive. You have nothing to ever contribute but the same two words and when confronted you shy away and call them schizo. We've all seen the picture, we all know you're an underage twinky pajeet that owns no perfumes beyond what your mom buys you. You're dismissive attitude is a coping mechanism. You have nothing and you're ashamed of who you are. A word of advice, don't rape your grandmother because you can't get a white woman, I know you're prone to that, but have a few morals at least.

>>18494227
What the schizo yappin about now?

you schizo's talk me into it, what's the best nipponese brand should i buy for the first time.

>>18494401
what kinda fit do you want? safe bet get freewheelers 1947's
anon posted a pic of his last thread >>18490810

>>18494401
I own the Freewheelers 1947 like >>18494451 said. They are a very great, straightforward pair of jeans. However, they are one of those really niche brands that only restock once a year and they are currently all out of stock. If you want something solid with a great cut and a relatively affordable price, go with some TCB 50s. If you want something heavier and durable but still comfortable, go with Iron Heart 634 in their 21 oz. Overall, the TCB 50s will look more versatile and timeless as they are a reproduction of a vintage 501 cut and the denim is mid weight with no modern gimmicks. However, the Iron Hearts really do capture the peak of Japanese innovation with denim and arguably capture some of the true essence of what makes Japanese denim great. If you have questions about sizing feel free to ask away

>>18494068
>i think most grown adults who care about their appearance are used to spending about $150-300 for a pair of pants.

Literal autism, not in a figurative way, you have to be literally autistic to think these things.

>>18494458
NTA, but I’ve spent $2300 on some leather boots and I’m definitely not autistic. AMA

I just got some 21oz jeans. Can basically anyone hem these or am I better off sending them to someone who deals with heavyweight denim regularly? I don't plan to cuff them ever if that makes a difference.

>>18494451
manlet. so should be slim fit also what about momotaro or studio d artisan. might splurge 200$ on some fucking pants if i'm going to japan this year.

>>18493887
>le lifetime repair meme
Unless the tear is along a seam it is unlikely to look as good as before the damage was done anyway

>>18494480
so i should pick the other because muh osaka 5

>>18494471
You want to send them to a retailer with a vintage chain stitcher. You can get a hem at Self Edge or Standard and Strange for $25.

>>18494472
The Iron Heart 634 fits relatively slim. For Studio D’artisan SD-101 is pretty good. I have no experience with Momotaro, but I always hear they take forever to fade if that’s a dealbreaker for you. Other honorable mentions are:
>Warehouse 1001xx or Sugarcane 1947 for very straightforward 1947 repro cut
>Fullcount 1101w for 1947 inspired cut using Zimbabwean cotton for extra comfort and softness
>Samurai s510 for 1960s repro cut using heavily textured denim for sicker fades

I’lol just keep wearing Wranglers and Levi’s. Idc about the tranny marketing and overseas manufacturing as long as it’s 100% cotton and decently thick denim I’m good

>>18494458
go to any non ghetto major city or upper middle class suburb sometime.

>>18494487
get some vintage wranglers/mavericks. don't even cost much more than new ones. hardware and details are nicer, way more fit choices and better fits overall, and you get a real leather patch. fabric's the same thing but with better qual cotton doubt you'll notice but it was usa grown.
only real disadvantage is you can't always get them exactly when you want, sometimes you have to f5 ebay poshmark etsy and the likes for a month or two to find the right size and cut.

>>18493912
post bussy fgt

>>18493912
Doug spammer we all know you are a 90lb pajeet twink. That guy mogs you.

>>18494510
>mavericks
Never even heard of these. Were these the original Rustlers?

>>18494485
Thanks anon. I'll send them to someone who knows what they're doing.

>>18493883 (OP)
How's Uniqlo's selvage?

>>18494633
it's aight for wanting to try selvedge denim

>>18493883 (OP)
Are there any japanese denim brands that offer 26inch (~66cm) size for men? Yes I'm very thin

>>18493936
You don't even get any fades to speak of when you keep buying new pants. I have one entry level pair of repros and I bet they look better than any of those $400 meme pants because they actually get worn.

>>18494676
i think the best rotation is 1 pair of raws if less active lifestyle, 2 switching off every day if you're a tradie.
and not totally wearing them to the bone, when they're like 70-80% done retire them to occasional wear.
then just rotate the raw(s) you're actively fading with your already faded jeans so you're not denim dan the selvedge man every day.

>>18494669
pbj and iron heart do low waist sizes. and its very easy to find vintage selvedge for low waist sizes like that. other options would be getting 27"s with an alteration (cleaner fit) or back cinch (slouchier fit.)

>>18494530
it was supposed to be a downscale wrangler product line but it wound up being basically the same quality. yeah it's the 70's version of rustler with a hint of orange tab basically. rustler kind of had its own distinctly 80s look while maverick was basically wrangler with an M instead of a W.

>>18494669
pbj and iron heart do low waist sizes. and its very easy to find vintage selvedge for low waist sizes like that (all the stuff i'm talking about rn with the other anon would be relevant to you if you're into vintage.) other options would be getting 27"s with an alteration (cleaner fit) or back cinch (slouchier fit.)

>>18494530
it was supposed to be a downscale wrangler product line but it wound up being basically the same quality. yeah it's the 70's version of rustler with a hint of orange tab basically. rustler kind of had its own distinctly 80s look while maverick was basically wrangler with an M instead of a W.
There was also Blue Bell too, worth searching when hunting for vintage.
I would also recommend looking into all the mid century jc penney, sears etc brands. They vary in quality and how much $$ they command, but there's some seriously good value gems for pennies because these brands just don't have the hype of the big 3. Quality of the better lines is way above Levi's was back then imo.
Foremost, Hercules, and pretty much anything with the word "Big" in the name are examples of good ones. There's a ton of these brands go look at the catalog scans sometime.

>>18495087
No one cares.

>>18495109
stfu jeet

>>18495189
Gonna cry schizo?

i might go for momotaro for my first nip denim cause of the lifetime warranty meme and i like the stripes design. also jeetgpt said that its good for all around in seasons.

>>18495273
had some momotaros for a while i gained too much weight to keep wearing. two thoughts:
1. the stitching of the button fly just absolutely blew apart on me. they got super frayed and blown out really quickly. i was very disappointed. i had to reinforce the buttonholes several times which i did by hand it was annoying and tedious. never had any other pair of jeans with a button fly do that, just the momotaros
2. they take forever to fade. if that matters to you. if you're buying nice japanese selvedge, it probably does matter to you. but they were by far the slowest faders of any of the jeans i've owned

i'm a slim manlet so i don't need to worry about that also i don't care if it takes ages to fade, i need pants that can last for a lifetime.

>>18495279
the button holes blowing out had nothing to do with my weight. i'm still skinny, i just sized down too much and even a little weight gain made my pair too small
>pants that can last for a lifetime
don't get momotaro then because they use cotton thread not polyester which is much less durable

>>18495282
my plan is use a cheap selvedge denim like uniqlo for every day use then momotaro. and if have money to burn might buy another nip demin from the osaka 5

>>18495087
Thanks anon, but I don't see anywhere PBJ and Iron Heart offering these low waist sizes. The only japanese raw denim brands I see actually offering W26 is Momotaro, but it's still 73.5cm wide for some reaosn, so it won't work