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>>18498757it's a complex and well blended masculine frag, one of the best out of the hundreds i owned or sampled
>>18498794>Amouage Gold Manbased
>>18498839kek
>>18498851>asked both ChatGPT and Geminingmi
i would wear Pour Monsieur
>>18498864>t. retard>>18498913lol, lmao even
I have acquired a vintage bottle of DRAKKAR NOIR GUY LAROCHE PARIS
>>18499176anon-sama, i kneel
>>18499175With all due respect, you sound like a huge pussy
>>18499180post your favorite frags, ty
So I finally got to smell iris. It's not lipsticky as I expected, it reminded me more of those mother mary figurines you can get outside the church. It's a subtle powdery-soapy scent.
>>18499165Dilutedfag. Mine lasts 4-5 hours in very hot weather. Where did you get it?
>>18499197I get it though, bitchmade can't ever wear something so masculine. Feminine smells are better for certain purposes.
>>18499182 Top 5:
Iron Duke, Interlude, You or someone like you, Fico di Amalfi and Elysium.
>>18498686>What truly special fragrance would you wear to your own wedding?This is kind of a weird question imo, and it depends how you interpret it, but it seems like a lot of people save frags they really love for special occasions, and I don’t do / don’t like that. If I love a fragrance I want to wear it regularly, not just on rare special occasions. So if I do actually wear something ‘special’ for an occasion, it’s probably going to be something that I like but not love, because I don’t wear it often.
But to actually answer the wedding question…
>loveMousse Illuminee
>likeLalique Lion (pour homme)
>>18499234>Lalique Lion (pour homme)mad how good this cheap shit is
>>18499219not bad at all but elysium (by roger bird) is cringe
>>18499251based
frags for this closet? Dont say jazz club
>>18499256Dior Fahrenheit
>>18499256this wardrobe screams axe body spray
>>18499256Jazz Club (Ombré Leather, African Leather, Accord Oud, Santal 33, Bogart/PR Pour Homme/Quorum, maybe possibly Dior Homme Parfum 2014, Aesthete if you want something a bit more out there).
Generally something dry, somewhat leathery, somewhat metallic, somewhat smoky.
I haven't seen this posted yet so here goes.
>need a new frag
>go to selfridges and sephora with the missus to try the frag101 perfumes, the chanels, diors, aventus, etc
>some we like, some we don't, she shits on sauvage, bdc, and the popular often recommended stuff
>i already have the Montblanc explorer so we go to their stand, where they have these new ones out
>after the first sniff I let out an audible groan of pleasure like how good this shit is. I keep sniffing the little strip hours, days after. The drydown is just as good as the top notes. It's still incredible.
>order a bottle, comes in after a couple days.
>I have arrived, this is it.
What do you guys think?
t. noselet
>>18499306I think I'm sick and tired of the amount of amber/vanilla-labdanum in modern frags.
>>18499307At my lab I have a collection of Spanish and Cretan Labdanum, they smell wonderful, especially the Spanish variety. I think you can achieve a very interesting ambery paper dry down when you strategically use some Labdanum and fir balsams, I think it’s also a very nice floral and leather modifier.
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Got a bottle of Givenchy Insensé. I thought it was a bit overrated at first (it is) because the sharp florals give a very cleaning product scent. Once it settles down however I can see why some people rate it so highly. The opening shifts a lot, from citrusy to purple florals, it's all a tiny bit sweet but never too much so. The mild sweetness just complements it like what you get from juicy fruits and fresh flowers without feeling excessive. As the notes develop and shift there are some that are great and some that are less so. I can't pinpoint exactly but there is some sharpness that feels a bit cheap and a little much. There is however this creamy elegant floral note with the smallest amount of powderyness that is very elegant and relaxing. It's the best parts of each listed flower note, the fresh verdant bloom of lily of the valley, the intoxicating syrup of magnolia, and the powderyness of iris. It all becomes one. Thankfully after shifting between its different notes the fragrance does settle into its best one, helped by the fir to give it some relaxing piney scent. Insensé doesn't scream brutish masculinity but at no point is there ever a question of its masculinity even with the strong floral notes, it's quite confident. It's probably best suited for a cool spring day but I would love to try it on a cozy Christmas night. It's very comforting. It reminds me of the Escada PH I mentioned on the previous thread because you have to endure some outdated smelling notes before getting to the fantastic elegant base. The performance of Insensé is quite decent but does not meet modern expectations. The projection is decent at best for a couple of minutes before becoming real personal. It lasts a couple hours but it's definitely something you can smell on yourself but would not reach those around you. It's a bit more sophisticated than I am but I can see someone wanting to be known by this scent.
>>18499313I'm sure you can achieve that, and I like labdanum, I like a moderate amount of vanilla, I even liked Grand Soir the first time I smelled it, but that amber accord is everywhere nowadays, that's what I'm sick of.
On a somewhat related note, what do you think is a good balsamic fragrance, something that doesn't necessarily smell realistic but that really has that fir/camphor/menthol/thyme quality that opens up your nose?
Or more than one, if more than one come to mind.
Please and thank you, I'm really enjoying your recent contributions to this general xoxo
>>18499313>when you strategically useand that's exactly where modern slop fails, they churn out more of the same old boring (and probably cheap) amber crap
>>18499315>>18499316>TLDR?Masculine floral with fantastic base note after you endure the outdated heart notes. Many such cases.
P.S. Forgot to mention that while it's not listed there is a prominent muskiness to the floral note which is probably what helps keep it masculine and comforting.
>>18499326I think the perception of what Amber encompasses has vastly shifted in the past few decades, especially with the relatively recent introduction of Super Ambers such as Ambermax, Ambrocenide, Amberxtreme, Norlimbanol Dextro etc. Despite having Amber in the name, they couldn’t be further from it. I see it as a self fulfilling prophecy. Amber fragrances especially (although other types have fallen victim too) are expected to have extraordinary longevity and projection, and the easiest way to achieve this desired effect is with an overdose of superambers. Fragrances such as TF Myrrhe Mystere with 4% norlimbanol dextro, 5% ambercore and 5% cedramber are emblematic of this trend, The end result is a very woody fragrance, which in turn leads to large amounts of vanillin, ethyl maltol or ultravanil being needed to counterbalance the driftwood notes to skew the fragrance in an ambery direction. This process shifts the perception of amber in the eyes of the consumer, who especially nowadays has a particular fixation with the longevity of fragrances. This is glaringly obvious in the briefs I read, where above all longevity and similarity to whatever product is dominating the particular niche of the market is being requested. A traditional amber accord is comprised of the following materials: vanillin, benzoin (Siam) and Labdanum. fragrances that contain resins such as Tolu and Peru balsams, Opoponax, Labdanum, Benzoin and Myrrh can call themselves “real” amber, everything else exists in an in-between state. In regards to what I believe to be good amber fragrances, I very much enjoyed trying Ambra By Santa Maria novella and Ambra avrea by Profvmvm roma
What does MYSLF smell like? I hear everyone say it's one of the best designer releases in recent years
Contd.
In regards to some more camphoraceous and herbal fragrances that still possess a balsamic core, I think you can’t go wrong with CdG Zagorsk or Ambre nuit by Naomi goodsir. Another very interesting fragrance from the same brand is Or du Serail which structurally speaking has a lot of things in common with Hermes Ambre narghile, and Nuit de Bakélite for something greener.
>>18499331Unfortunately, that’s what the consumer base largely wants. Realize that most people that purchase fragrances don’t have the same refined affinities as someone who holds a serious interest in the subject, to them it has to smell ambery and be strong, and if those two boxes are ticked, they spend money on it. I could list countless examples of fragrances that fit exactly this description and have had immense commercial success, the aforementioned Grand Soir is one of them. As soon as a new amber fragrance worthy of being copied comes along, the market will adjust.
>>18499356>Unfortunately, that’s what the consumer base largely wants. Realize that most people that purchase fragrances don’t have the same refined affinities as someone who holds a serious interest in the subject, to them it has to smell ambery and be strong, and if those two boxes are ticked, they spend money on it. I could list countless examples of fragrances that fit exactly this description and have had immense commercial success, the aforementioned Grand Soir is one of them. As soon as a new amber fragrance worthy of being copied comes along, the market will adjust.not surprising to anyone with a functioning brain but still grim as fuck
Every day I hop on here just to see if perfumer anon has said anything new and every day I fall in love a little bit more. Can we please get married? I will be a good wife. Pinkie promise.
>>18499355Neroli bomb + woody, lavender-like drydown. It smells ok, nothing groundbreaking.
>>18499355it smells like a completely focus-tested, AI-designed slopblob of non-descript generic freshness
>>18499383Sounds pretty good, I've been looking for a dumb reach frag for all occasions. How's the performance? I refuse to spend money on anything with poor longevity and projection
>>18499385It's surprisingly long for a neroli fragrance. I got about 8+ hours of noticable projection, after a day the sillage is quite noticable on clothes. as for occasions, I'd say it's versatile. But it's not a safe blind buy. I haven't smelled the Absolu version but some say it's much better.
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>>18499350>This is glaringly obvious in the briefs I read, where above all longevity and similarity to whatever product is dominating the particular niche of the market is being requested.This validates my perception of the mainstream consumer.
When it comes to what companies request do you think they always get what they pay for? I'm curious if you look at some high end stuff and think they got screwed and if there are some small brands that got more value than they paid for.
>>18499391>not a safe blind buyReally? I thought it was one of the most inoffensive recent releases. How can neroli and lavender ever be controversial
>>18499393For me, at least. It's too generic for me. But if you like an elegant neroli fragrance it's a solid choice.
>>18499381My favorite part is that he's not a schizo or attention whoring faggot. Just a chill dude dropping facts from the inside. I also appreciate that even the undesirables don't come in and scare him off. I hate when threads devolve into cult worshiping but I legitimately wish him well and appreciate his input.
>>18499401After trying a lot of niche (not "masstige" but actual niche) fragrances I sometimes get tired of excessively unique or challenging scent profiles and just want something versatile, fairly safe and generally pleasant
I might just buy bois imperial again though
>>18499392The "acting" in The Office was so dreadful.
>>18499413>Ho behaviour dot pngKeke
>>18499413Why do women like byredoslop? None of their fragrances last longer than me on bed
>>18499413That Kardashian slop smells awful, I would be too embarrassed to tell people I bought that garbage and then post it online.
>>18499417Byredo has cool names and pretty packaging. That's 70% of the reason. I will admit I own one of their eye makeup cosmetics. Beautiful packaging with the metal compact but lack lustre product
>>18499356>Ambre nuit by Naomi goodsirTypo? I've not seen a NG by this name.
>>18499355It smells like clean laundry.
>>18499426Who cares, im going to blind buy it this week
>>18499392 When you’re a small brand, you get what you pay for: If you give a Perfumer an interesting brief and enough time to properly develop a fragrance, you’re going to get something wonderful. Meanwhile, if you want a standard fougere for example, and you don’t properly invest in having it developed / give a short deadline, what you’re going to end up with is just a repackaged framework that certain specificities delineated in the brief have been bolted on.
On the other hand, if you are working for a big brand, the fragrance will go through countless iterations and rounds of testing until the marketing team you are cooperating with you is completely satisfied. That means, in their eyes at least, they get their moneys worth. In some instances, they are sufficiently content with your creation and just accept it. Most of the time tho, you have to change certain aspects, tone down certain notes or rebalance certain accords to make the fragrance more palatable to the general consumer, or at least according to the tastes the Marketing team believes the consumer to have. In my eyes, this is the part of the creative process where some originality and creativity is stripped away. In the end you’re still creating a product, even if it
has artistic value.
>>18499427I mistakenly believed that they had a released a fragrance by that name, it remains a failed brief for now, probably forever.
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Is there honestly a single frag aside from BI that is
>extremely versatile: literally usable for all situations, all weather, night or day, gym, dates, anything
>beastmode performance
>very reasonably priced for something of that quality
>still manages to remain an interesting scent
After ordering a bunch of samples, I'm in love with The Tragedy of Lord George. Might replace Polo as my winter frag
>>18499460>it remains a failed brief for now, probably forever.Ah, what a pity then. I'm a fan of the brand, Bois d'Ascese is one of my favorite smoky/amber/labdanum scents.
>>18499464>beastmode>>>/reddit/
>>18499433Don't forget to make a thread ;)
The posts here seem like baiting most of the time
What is your favorite FB size? For me, it's 30ml or 50ml if 30ml is not available.
>>1849948230ml (especially if it's not too expensive /ml compared to a full bottle)
>>18499482I'd buy these sizes but with most of the stuff I buy the 100ml is so discounted it ends up being like 10% more expensive than the 50ml
what frag evokes the sense of the end of summer? melancholic, wistful, dry...
>>18499464Hermann a mes cotes?
>>18499502It's not as universally attractive imo
>>18499350>>18499356>Myrrhe Mystere could smell much more like driftwood and much less like vanilla if anyone at TF Beauty had good tasteHuh, what do you know...
>camphraceous, herbal, balsamic fragsThanks a lot for the suggestions, though this is the second time I get doubts about the meaning of "balsamic".
What I mean by it is the penetrating, sharp, kinda medicinal, cooling sensation caused by smelling camphor, menthol, eucalyptol and concentrated thyme oil.
Burning frankincense, which as far as I understand is a balsam, has the same effect, though maybe less so - it's still sharp and penetrating but it doesn't feel quite as cold; still, the sensation is similar enough that I categorize them together.
Some frags I found to be quite balsamic in this sense are Aesthete by Le Galion, La Liturgie des Heures and many other frankincense-forward frags.
But I've had another qualified person tell me balsamic refers to a honey-like scent, soft and slightly sweet, and based on your recommendations I get the impression that you too use the term in the latter sense - Zagorsk is somewhat sharp and cooling, but the rest are definitely not, and in my mind balsamic has nothing at all to do with amber.
What's up with that, what does the term mean in this context?
>>18499464my bottle has 10% left. Been a good 2 and half years
>>18499503Maybe, but that was not in the criteria. It's still versatile
There's also of course the other Bischbomb, Kenzo Homme EDP
>>18499464Sauvage EDT is even more of everything you mentioned than BI.
>>18499529It's not interesting.
I wish I could get into those akigala bischbombs like BI/Kenzo EdP. Does anyone know if other Kenzo releases tone down that note? Maybe the current iteration of the EdT?
wtf. encre noire l'extreme is even more of a skin scent than the original one. or i guess my skin just isn't compatible with this. anyway i would've preferred more aromatics. is there anything similar but with more aromatics?
>>18499550Encre Indigo might actually work for you, since it has more aromatics and it has ambroxan in the base whereas classic EN is an iso E super base.
>>18499531BI smells like mosquito repellent
>>18499567More like coca cola with a hint of blue cheese, noselet
>>18499545Try Sel'Dissey
>>18499550Assuming it's a new bottle, give it a few weeks and come back to it. All Lalique frags are notoriously week out of the box but they do improve. Sucks but that's just the way they are.
>>18499570what coke you have in delhi, sukdeep
>>18499583>what coke you havekek your grammar makes your projection obvious, ranjashit. It's "what coke DO you have"
>>18499585be careful with that coke in delhi, sukdeep. it smells very, very different to the original
>>18499587tank you saar I will do the needful
Seriously though BI is good. The opening especially, I wish the drydown was more spicy
>>18499464> Dior Homme 2020 (it's great for performance, you just go noseblind like a noselet)> Dior Eau Sauvage> Guerlain Vetiver> Mont Blanc Legend> Louis Vuitton Imagination
>>18499570lmao so I'm not the only one who gets blue cheese out of the top notes of Bois Imperial
I wonder what causes this
>>18499464Platinum Egoiste, though I wouldn't call it very interesting
>>18499598It's not even unpleasant to me it's just weird
I think it's akigalawood + basil doing this
Why do women love this shit
Can anyone speak to the quality of the most recent version of Polo green (the one with the new bottle shape)? I know vintage is always better, but I'm curious how this 2024-ish reformulation compares to the 2010s version.
3 Extrait de Parfums coming out this year from Parfums de Marly. $500 for 100ml.
https://ifragranceofficial.com/perfumes/eragon-extrait-parfums-de-marly/
https://ifragranceofficial.com/perfumes/carios-extrait-parfums-de-marly/
https://ifragranceofficial.com/perfumes/valero-extrait-parfums-de-marly/
Which ones are you gonna buy? You aren't poor, are you?
>>18499597>> Louis Vuitton Imagination>reasonably priced
>>18499624>you're not poorI am poor, but that's not the reason I'm not going to buy a $500 from PdM.
>>18499628It it widely understood that when people talk about LV fragrances, they're actually talking about the Zara dupes
>>18499624you already posted this you faggot shill
kill yourself
>>18499641SORSD is really not that great. I wouldn't even pay 70 bucks for it. If it's actually a good dupe of Imagination then that makes Imagination complete dogshit and the most overrated fragrance of the decade
What do I cop next, Jicky, Prada L'homme intense, or Dior Homme Intense?
>>18499646Prada L'Homme Intense smells the best
>>18499643Buy a bottle and I might ;)
>>18499628>not buying decantswhat a faggot
>>18499355Citrus off the top, then sweet floral chamomile like, amberwood drydown. Similarities to laundry detergent but not in a bad way, floral and clean. I like it a lot as daily driver. It is somewhat unisex, if you want a tradionally masculine scent this isn't it but it isn't a full on feminine fragrance, it definitely has male fragrance elements. Some people will call it generic but before this release floral men's fragrances were out of the spotlight for at least a decade, now other designers are making their own orange blossom floral fragrances. It's not challenging but if your goal is to smell good than it accomplishes that very well.
>>18499580>Try Sel'DisseyI may do that. I like the 'salty' driftwood aspect of the Kenzo but I want it balanced with fresher notes. I still don't pick up the leather people are talking about.
>>18499482I'm always shocked by how tiny 50ml bottles are, they are so cute so I really like them. Even 60ml and 75ml are small. You have to get to 100ml for them to feel like normal sized.
>>18499684How do you know you're not getting a dupe when you buy a decant?
>>18499700stop buying slop that is dupable
>>18499702>slop that is dupableLiterally the definition of the LV you replied to. I guess the answer is you are 100% getting dupes.
>>18499612The bottle I bought in 2022 wasn't great, but my newer bottle from 2024 (the currently formulation I believe) is vastly improved.
Obviously it lacks the oakmoss of the vintage, but it's still a potent green pine tobacco frag that is a mainstay for my winter rotation.
Anons, is there a perfume family that you get all the flankers because you like and appreciate all the differences?
The closest for me is Allure Homme. Pedestrian yes, but the only one I don't like is CAHS (there's something in the musk/orange interaction that is off). I even like the sample of superleggera, and think I'd have ended up buying it if I could.
>>18499717Encre Noire is one where you might as well own them all
>>18499705i'm not that anon. i wouldn't spend a single cent on LV.
>>18499717closest i've gotten was lapidus pour homme, had all but the gold one. that was before the one in 2023 was released. i only kept the OG.
I am about to spray this 13 year-old bottle on me, will update how it smells
>>18499738I have a bottle of Cool Water from the 2000's.
>>18499742How's the smell? still the same?
>>18496326Thanks to the anon in the previous /frag/ thread for the recommendation to pick up Lataffa's Al Nashama Caprice as a replacement/alternative to the now-discontinued YSL La Nuit De L'Homme. My (absurdly gaudy) bottle arrived and while not exactly the same, it's as described: very similar and with better projection and duration. I love how it smells and, like LNDLH, it smells great on me. Thanks!
>>18499751Don't know what to compare it to since I haven't smelled the newer ones. I wore it to school back in the day and the girls said I smelled like an old man.
>>18499762>>18499738>>18499742I sprayed it on my skin and on my shirt. It smells the same as the Cool Water I sampled before in Sephora. Except the top notes has become quite stronger. The first whiff has the quality of the smell of hot rubber/plasticky stuff. The sea water notes is faded compared with the mint and lavender. I sprayed a few times to see if there's difference, on skin the mossy/green and geranium notes are more noticeable. It's way more denser though, probably because of maceration. It's been 30 minutes now and the projection is still good. On my skin it burns a bit, as expected for a very old juice.
>>18499609because the aventus dna smells good which is why there are 500 clones of it and youre just a jaded snob
>>18499723Why? Original and extreme are very similar. Sport is a real twist though.
>>18499896>Original and extreme are very similar.noselet
>>18499597i dont think any of these have the longevity or projection of BI
>>18499624PDM is such a shit brand. slop made for tiktok zoomers
>>18499947I don't think BI has very remarkable projection or longevity anyway, and wanting something too potent is very Indian behavior.
>>18499724of course, you're poor. it explains the contrarian reddit thing of loving cheap drugstore slop like drakkar, bogart, and lapidus
Behold my normie collection. Any suggestions for adding to it?
>>18500029Almost fell asleep looking at the image. Do you want more snoozecore or do you want something different?
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>>18499852>On my skin it burns a bit, as expected for a very old juice.I have stuff from the 70s and 80s and have never experienced this- oh wait I mean, don't buy vintage perfumes, they will burn your skin off!
>>18499567This is the truth. Sold mine on ebay years ago.
>>18500043Something different.
>posting images of a random indians collection from r/DesiFragranceAddicts for (You)s
>>18500029Get Oud Noir to complete the Versace Pour Homme trio.
>>18500029How would you describe the Lacoste one? Is it unique?
>>18500075not really a fan of oud.
>>18500101Like a floral, creamy scent,
>>18500106How's the longevity?
>>185001174 sprays, last about 8 hours on my skin with lotion.
>>18499991It does, I used to wear it two years ago and a coworker commented how I smelled from another room I hadn't even been in
>>18500120Sounds great, Thanks
>>18499993is this your new bit?
>>18500170I always found the EDT to be better
Longevity doesn't matter since both suck in that regard
>>18500209it's not, it's just like 70% Iso E and you're going anosmic
>>18500217Does the 2011 have less iso e? I have both and the 2011 seems to last much longer.
>>18500230the 2011 is a completely different fragrance with almost nothing in common. and probably does have much less Iso E
>>18500236>a clone of a fragrance inspired by clones of a fragrance that was cloned by the clone that provided the bottle design for this other cloneamazing
Bros... I'm about to blind buy YSL Myslf...
I have come to the realization that most of my regrets in buying fragrances is the bottle size. for me 50ml is the sweet spot for versatile fragrances, while 30 ml for niche or heavier ones. Anything 100 ml is dedicated for the ones that I really like and I'm willing to use as my signature.
>>18500241Not a bad choice.
>>1850024550ml is for regular perfumes you spray 2-4 times each time you wear them.
100ml+ is for fresh scents you need to spray at least 8 times per application.
The unfortunate part is you'll never know until you get the bottle so just buy the 50ml and if you run out of it then you know you have to go for the 100ml.
>>18500241I blind bought it and have zero regret.
I’ve always found the structure of Dior homme quite puzzling to say the least. Structurally speaking the fragrances aren’t out of the norm; all of them are built around the modified grojsman base of IES, Galaxolide and Hedione with some wood modifiers such as Vertofix and sandalwood molecules. (As are almost all fragrances today)
The Iris portion is mostly made up of varying Ionones (Alpha isomethyl ionone, Ionone beta, Irone alpha) in that order, with trace amounts of Orris butter. What really perplexed me was the amount of sweet materials, coumarin and vanillin. In my experience they lend a more feminine effect to floral compositions, giving a pronounced powdery, sweet effect usually only encountered in older women’s fragrances. I find it very interesting that such a classically feminine composition has garnered such widespread recognition as a classic men’s fragrance, this is definitely very much in line with trends I have recognized myself, those being the de-categorization of perfumery. Nowadays many fragrances are made for everyone to wear, instead of solely being confined to being worn by one sex.
>>18500267Yeah the success of Dior Homme was pretty impressive, it spawned copycats as powdery iris suddenly became popular with men
But for whatever reason nowadays Dior is moving away from iris with this line. I'm not sure if it's a change in fashion or trying to keep down the formula costs?
>>18500241>Myslfi think buying it with othrs is more fun
>>18500284EDP or parfum haven't chosen yet
Recommend me some classic cheapies.
So far I got encre noirs, prorasos, moustache (no longevity), aramis. Don't care how they smell, just wanna sample them.
Thinking about getting tabac, but some reviews mention the longevity is non-existent.
>>18500308Haven't tried the others but EDP seems most blind buy friendly from what I know.
>>18500286This is no time for puns.
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>>18500317>This is no time for puns.okay bisch
>>18500179only as much as pharmacyslop is /frag/ and reddits current contrarian bit
>>18500209you're going noseblind
>>18500267>widespread recognition as a classic men’s fragranceit's not a classic, it's gay as fuck and only zoomers wear it. it's a fragrance made for fembois
iris was mistake
>>18500272it's because iris is the note of short hairy Indians sexually harassing white women
>>18500316sung homme, bijan for men (remember anons sacrifice), lapidus, cabochard, bogart signature, dali pour homme, quorum
>>18500316Brut
Versace The Dreamer
Quorum
Boss Number 1
Burberry Men
One Man Show Bogart
Lapidus
>>18500326What's the sacrifice?
>>18500316Versace L’homme
Drakkar Noir
Cool Water
Obsession
>>18500267>What really perplexed me was the amount of sweet materials, coumarin and vanillin.If you consider the original came out in 2005 that is quite unique and interesting for the time. The problem is what came after.
>In my experience they lend a more feminine effect to floral compositions, giving a pronounced powdery, sweet effect usually only encountered in older women’s fragrances.That is true for people who experienced those old lady fragrances but I don't think that is the perspective of younger people today.
>I find it very interesting that such a classically feminine composition has garnered such widespread recognition as a classic men’s fragrance, this is definitely very much in line with trends I have recognized myself, those being the de-categorization of perfumery.At the point where we are today "masculine" fragrances are even more feminine than those that were considered women's fragrances in the past. You can rerelease a Fendi (1987) or Ivoire de Balmain (1980) and they would be considered very masculine by today's standards.
>Nowadays many fragrances are made for everyone to wear, instead of solely being confined to being worn by one sex.They are not made for everyone, they just don't want men feeling guilty about wearing a fragrance marketed for the opposite gender. They market feminine fragrances as "for men" or "unisex". There is no marketing of masculine fragrances for women. It's also not a temporary trend, there is no going back. It's an arms race to sweeter and sweeter fragrances because that is what makes the flavors and fragrances industry the most money. They get to sell the same product to multiple markets and reduce their costs.
>>18500334anon put his dick through the hole of the bottle and posted it itt
>>18500361sweetslop has been mainstream since the 90s
>>18500362wish I was the bottle...
>>18500316For Tabac Original, get the after shave lotion, or the Eau de Cologne, not the EdT.
Longevity isn't great, but it's on par with the others you listed, and it smells maybe the best out of all of them, imho
>>18500261How does it perform
>>18499758What are the differences?
Recently i've been heavily into tuberose and trying out different interpretations of it. This is my collection as of now. What tuberose should I try next?
>>18500405maai and thirty three
>>18500362Mainstream? Yes. Ubiquitous? No. Nothing wrong with Le Male or Alien when they came out, it wasn't slop until it became the majority of the market.
>>18500377sorry I'm not very good at describing smells nad stuff. But the clone smells slightly spicier, projects more, and lasts longer. The original barely projects at all, which is something I liked about it.
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>fresh out the shower
>t-shirt and jeans
>RL Romance for Men (it's a youthful fougere)
>weather cooled down a bit
Perfection.
>>18500503Nice outfit match. Wish I could stick my nose in your chest rn
Samples came in today:
1) TF - Fougere Platine: Metallic Fougere. Lavender and vague metalic notes. I think this was discontinued and I understand why. It's not particularly sexy or alluring. It's more of a scent oddity. Wouldn't wear.
2) TF - Tobacco Oud: Burnt cigar tobacco with a chocolate and oud backing. Surprisingly light despite the notes. It's okay but not particularly great. People online have said they love this stuff, but I don't see why. It's a soft tobacco- that's it. It's no surprise the tobacco when to Tobacco Vanille and the Oud went to Oud Wood. Both are better and more interesting combinations.
3) Acqua di Parma - Buongiorno: Citrus and florals. Clean but not soapy. Lavender and Musk in the body. Opens similar to Torino 21. Absolutely not worth $300+. Mugler cologne is still the best for neroli opening. 4711 can't be beat for citrus+florals and Nichane Colognise is the best citrus Musk i've smelled in a long time. That musk actually holds.
4) Guerlain - Patchouli Paris: Very nice patchouli and chocolate. Smooth and sexy. I think this is unisex. The only problem is the price tag, but if people are buying TF stuff at full price and the airy synthetic dogshit at LV, then this is just an upgrade.
5) Comporta - Dapper: Green herbal and fresh opening (cucumber + tomato leaf) into an earthy woody body and base. This one is very interesting, but it smells like a fresh pungent vegetable garden. Smells healthy. It smells like a tomato vine. Not the berry but the green chlorophyll vine. Very interesting smell.
6) Zaharoff - Signature Pour Homme: Lavender and Cypress with black pepper gives it a sharp woody floral opening that goes down to oud+rose+vanilla in the base very slowly. It's technically a very good men's fragrance.
Do you guys have a signature frag or a rotation of signature frags, or do you just constantly wear new and different frags?
what do we think of the new, fresher angels share (on the rocks)
>>18500523rotation of 5-10 favourites for warmer days and 10-15 favourites for colder days.
current signature is Hermes Rocabar or Dior Dune Pour Homme
>>18500564I'm thinking I'll buy Dune when I use up my Ferragamo Pour Homme. Love me 90s frags.
>>18499991>answers a post asking for frags that have a lot of sillage and longevity>gives a list of frags with mid projection and longevity>gets called out that he's not answering the original question by recommending poor choices>"well actually wanting a perfoming perfume is indian behaviour"nice cope you fucking moron lol
>>18500405>CocaïneYou have everything you need.
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>>18499169 (OP)How many sprays for a bischbomb like Hermann? Will two be overwhelming in an office environment?
>>18500655Overwhelming no, but they'd be sufficient.
>>18500655I usually do 3-5 sprays for the office.
>>18500029If you had followed the beginner charts, your collection would be far more interesting and better. So much bad slop.
>>18500245I only buy 100ml bottles if it's the only size available like for some Chanels and most classic Guerlains.
>>18500523Yes. I have a signature fragrance but I like it best during chilly foggy and rainy days. I have about 8 hot weather fragrances and 8 cold weather fragrances that I alternate between. Some are more spring bloom and some are more fall comfort but they each have their role.
>>18500735>8 hot weather fragrancesdo tell us more
>>18500362>anon put his dick through the hole of the bottle and posted it itti saw that and tried it myself. however, my dick wouldn't fit through the hole so the other guy is a gigadicklet.
>>18500537me with oakmoss
>>18500614seethe harder, Indian. go to reddit for your NUCLEAR PERFORMANCE BEAST LASTS 26 HOURS 50FT PROJECTION trash, saar
>>18500537me with tobacco
This got reviewbombed by people who like the old parfum. Would this appeal to someone who has no sentimental value for the original formula?
>>18500316are you all poor or something
I really don't like the type of sweet or gourmand frags that are common during the cold season. I tried many of the highest rated fall/winter frags and I just can't deal with the sweetness. That means even in winter I wear mostly fresh frags. Not aquatic fresh, but still fresh. Are there any cold season frags you could recommend to me, keeping in my mind my issue with sweetness?
>>18500316Some that haven’t been mentioned yet:
Zino
Paco Rabanne PH
Quorum Silver
>>18500922If you like tobacco you can’t go wrong with Polo
every fragrance is a clone of each other because they all have alcohol
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>>18500783From peak summer heat to closer to the edge of spring/fall.
>Cologne Bigarade>RL Romance for Men>Armani Mania>Victoria's Secret Very Sexy for Him>Armani EPH>Gucci Nobile>Mary Kay Quattro>L'Occitane Eau des 4 VoleursI don't usually name names because I buy discontinued stuff that few are interested in.
Encre Noir has really grown on me over the past few weeks. It had a very basic smell with a "plastic pen handle" undertone at first spray, which now has turned into a rich inky vetiver with cold milky/lactonic notes. Ahh, I love it.
I don't really use fragrances (a rotation between a mid no name chypre, egoiste platinum, guerlain l'homme ideal and azzarro pour homme), but I recently bought a perfume for my wife (chanel chance eau tendre), and got some assorted samples.
One was for versace eros energy. OK, not much of a fan for citrus, but not a bad opening. But once it started to dry I got this disgusting smell. More than a smell, a feeling. And then it clicked.
Years ago, I tested Dior sauvage. and I found it bad, but never thought much of it (ok, something for young people, whatever)
Now with this thing, I can now pin point that I have smelled the same pepper-musk/ambroxan-resine accord a million times from random crowds (from whatever arab dupe)
Supposedly, Eros Energy has some inspiration from Aventus. Is this true? Is this dry down similar or in the same "family"? if so, how the fuck is this shitty thing popular?
I can understand the existence of all the sweet fragrances, but this is obnoxious.
Just returned from a small dinner date with friends, and I can't not notice this "accord" everywhere now.
What is the worst smell family, gourmands, or ambroxan bombs?
>>18500326>bijan for men (remember anons sacrifice)>I ‘membaMay he never be forgotten.
>>18501200much as I personally detest sickly sweet vanillashit, ambroxan bombs are a whole other level of objective olfactory offense
put them together and… jesus christ
>>18500882>not liking oakmossummmmm gay much?
>>18500925>>18500922Deja vu? Is this some elaborate troll because I've seen this exact question with this exact asnwer.
Suggest me affordable freshies pls
accords I like
>herbal, green, aromatic, aldehydic
I don't like
>sharp citruses, grapefruit
has anyone tried any d'orsay perfumes, thoughts?
>>18501260Armani Eau de Cedre
Vetiver Guerlain EdT
Rogue Fougere L'Aube
Has anyone tried Bois Datchai?
Is that gay tranny fucker from Malta or whatever still ruining these threads or did the mods get him finally?
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>>18500236$30 arab slop
This shit smells pretty close to aventus absolu but doesn’t last and doesn’t project at all
shame
probably the last time I’ll get arab’d on frags
is letting the bottle masterbate a meme?
no, I’m not paying a kidney for a 75ml bottle of absolu
>>18501362you could also, you know, not buy aventuslop
I think the greatest difference Between Aventus and Absolu Aventus lies in the opening, with the base notes being mostly the same (musks, Ambrox and Pyralone) Comparing the two we can observe that the original top notes are built using Bergamot, pepper (pink and black) as well as some pineapple materials, with the pineapple accord in Aventus being made up of Allyl Amyl Glycolate, Manzanate and Allyl Heptanoate.
Meanwhile, the newer version has modified the top by using Bergamot, the two peppers, Methyl Pamplemousse, Citron Oil, Ginger, Allyl Amyl Glycolate, Verdox, Manzanate, Lavandin Grosso, Melonal, Neryl Acetate, Dynascone, Allyl Heptanoate and Triplal. Both fragrances feature similar notes, with the difference between the two mostly boiling down to introducing new molecules to modify the opening, making it both greener and juicier. My familiarity with Aventus stems from the fact that I have been tasked on multiple occasions to recreate certain aspects and introduce them to new formulas. I’m sure everyone here knows how popular the Aventus DNA has been this past decade. I think it’s a shame that there is so little innovation in the field of fresher citrus based fine fragrances, especially because I know of ways to bring new life to this particular facet of perfumery.
Huh, in the end I'm happy I didn't blind buy MYSLF as I said I would since I tried both the EDP and parfum on my wrist 30 minutes ago and I'm pretty hesitant
The EDP starts off pretty generic and very slightly reminiscent of Bleu Electrique and dries down into a neroli freshie that is pleasant but I'm on the fence about it
The parfum is much more neroli forward, it gets very soapy and not in a meme sense, it smells like actual neroli soap in the drydown
Both are good and actually interesting for designer frags but I'm still not sure if I want to get either
>>18501260Gucci Guilty Cologne Pour Homme (if you can still find it)
>>18501335have not seen that person(a) for some time
good riddance
>>18501375nice
can you check how accurate the fraterworks formula is?
https://cdn.shopify.com/[replace iths part with the letter 's']/files/1/0682/1448/9400/files/Aventus844456.pdf?v=1697832702
>>18501381I looked through the formulas posted on this website, they are relatively simple to make and should get you in the ballpark of whatever fragrance they are trying to copy. Obviously they won’t get you super close considering how simplified they are. Visually speaking they remind me of marketing formulas released by DSM Firmenich and Givaudan to show how their new molecules can be used in accords, I’m assuming it’s also the case here considering the formula you sent contains 3 proprietary bases with the logo besides them, and all materials linking to the store, that’s also what the aforementioned companies do. They are interesting but look somewhat like a marketing gimmick to sell more molecules and naturals, nonetheless they are a good starting point, just be aware they won’t smell like the original, more like those Arabian copies everyone on here discusses so often. If you’d like to know what’s actually in a fragrance, get a GCMS report.
The image attached is one of those firmenich marketing formulas I discussed earlier, it’s very similar to the one you posted in that it’s mostly marketing.
>>18501389thought so, thanks
>>18499256just one piece of men's clothing
all the rest: boy's
hope you're under 20, fren
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Thoughts on Byredo? Does it get the bitches?
>>18501409Apparently Bal d'Afrique is supposed to be le ebin compliment pulling panty dropping dumb reach head turner
>>18501378I was at sephora yesterday and tested it because of the mention in the thread. It was quite nice and if you like the citrus floral profile it would be an easy buy, but it is quite simple and generic. I also sampled Prada L'homme Intense which was also very nice and not as generic, but I just found it to be too clean and crisp. If you want a more mature and refined masculine floral check that one out.
SOTD Mark Gebauer Berserker
>>18501409normie core nicheslop. no i havent tried any of them
>>18501409it makes you the bitch
Thought on the new formulations of Light Blue?
Honestly disappointed with the Homme version but the standard version ('for women') is really good, light and fresh, with a noticeable apple note.
It's stayed fairly true to the old formulation, while amping up the performance, while the Homme smells like a new fragrance to me, and much more generic freshie.
It's my cousin's birthday in a couple weeks.
Do I just get him some cheap freshie like Phantom from a discounter because I know he'll likely use it for work? I don't like him enough to buy him AHS or anything like that. $60 is my upper limit here
>>18499580>Assuming it's a new bottle, give it a few weeks and come back to it. All Lalique frags are notoriously week out of the box but they do improve. Sucks but that's just the way they are.Amouage is the same, give it 8-10 sprays, wait a few months, and their sillage, richness, and depth increases greatly.
>>18499648I'm unfamiliar with this woman, but the word "would" comes to mind.
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How does this compare to LAVS Unum and the other frankincense fragrances?
>>18501448>Amouage is the same, give it 8-10 sprays, wait a few months, and their sillage, richness, and depth increases greatly.Not really acceptable for a fragrance that costs as much as Amouage thoughbeit
For a £20 bottle of EN I can forgive
>>18500503>>fresh out the showerof
out of the shower
just
>>18501457>Not really acceptable for a fragrance that costs as much as Amouage thoughbeiti don't know enough about scents to understand how that connects to pricing.
i rmemeber MDCI Paris recommending people let Invasion Barbare sit a while, too
>>18501474>i don't know enough about scents to understand how that connects to pricing.Because it's really something the manufacturer should do themselves before bottling for sale.
For a cheap product I can get over it but for an expensive one it's not acceptable.
>>18500894Go to the mall and smell it or buy a 2ml sample for $12. It should last you 2-3 days or a week if you're a light sprayer.
It's simplified, generally okay in all situations, upscale body wash smelling with a good amount of amber and patchouli and typical designer sweetness.
>>18501457>Amouage is expensiveGet a job
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>>18501467That's not how humans speak. Stop learning english from AI.
>>18501487deez ESLs r a diamond dozen, I could care less wut dey thunk bout us real amuricans
issa doggy dog world, I is glad u on our side brah
SOTD: Sauvage
>>18501260is H24 affordable enough for you? goes for around 50$ here in Europe
>>18501417Yeah that's my problem with it, it remains generic. The parfum was actually a nice surprise in the drydown because it smells very close to a detergent they used in a hotel I used to go to when I was a kid so there was that nostalgia factor but the overall generic profile + poor performance makes it not for me especially at that price
>Prada L'homme intenseIs it very powdery? I generally dislike powdery fragrance
I'm on the lookout for a freshie that has good performance, strikes a good balance between universally pleasant and original (not generic but not some weird orto parisi stuff), isn't too powdery and isn't a bischbomb but man I'm not finding anything.
>>18501507I have Herbes Vives, but can't find a refill
I smelled H24 before, It's nice but the metallic banana scent throws me off
>>18501487It may not sound human, but it is grammatically correct English. Textbooks teach this stuff - maybe anon is an English major.
"Fresh outta the shower" with "outta" being a contraction of the words "out of"
Generally speaking, people will confuse "outta the" with "out the" which is incorrect. (This mistake is attributed to "outta the" and "out the" sounding so similar)
Speaking well is something we should all strive for.
That being said, OP is fucking cringe for being the grammar police. No one cares about semantics unless it’s in a court of law or it genuinely alters meaning in the given context.
>>185009221) L'Instant de Guerlain
https://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Guerlain/L-Instant-de-Guerlain-pour-Homme-EDP-44763.html
Winter woody with a dry cocao backing. Not sweet, but very open and airy wood and cocao / patchouli. Excellent frag.
2) Hermes Rocabar
Fall / Winter. Airy open woods. Not superdry like pencil shavings. Dry like not sweet. Bit of florals to round out the edges. This is a classic; really nice.
3) Gucci Guilty Absolute
https://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Gucci/Gucci-Guilty-Absolute-43040.html
Aggressive leather. No sweetness. Leather with spices, patchouli, and smoke. It somehow ends up being fresh instead of heavy. Great in the cold.
4) TF Beau de Jour
https://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Tom-Ford/Beau-De-Jour-Eau-de-Parfum-59064.html
thin sweetness but it's a nice fougere for all year and it's one of the most versatile frags I own. Works literally anywhere.
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Have any of you guys tried the new Libre EDP?
Kino fragrance
>D&G Velvet Zafferano = 30% off.
>Sale ends soon.
>Can't get samples in time.
Do I take the leap of faith?
>>18501456It's similar enough to Cardinal, a tad more dense, and with similarly bad performance.
>>18501515Grammar is fake and gay. "Correct" means majority concusses not what outdated textbooks say since language is ever changing and not a snapshot in time.
>>18501486>365 to 490EUR aren't a lot of money for 100ml of smelly water if you have a jobHuh.
>>18501515>no one cares about semanticsOut the shower vs. out of the shower is about syntax, it has nothing to do with semantics :^)
>>18501523I've never tried it but I'd be surprised if it was worth the price even discounted, and unless you're so into saffron you're going to make an infographic about it I certainly don't think it's worth blind buying.
There'll always be another discount at some point in the future if you try it and end up liking it enough.
>>18501528based (DN) and cringe (Oud Noir)
>>18501527>aren't a lot of moneyThis is the AI grammar police?
>>18501532Is oud noir really bad? I tried oud wood and liked it
Hi, I'm looking for recs about good vetiver frags.
So far I've tried:
>Encre Noire
Great, love the hint of cypress, though it's more inky than I'd like in the beginning, and the vetiver is a bit flat.
>Terre d'Hermes
Great, but I'm looking for something with more vetiver, less pepper/citrus/assorted spice and not necessarily as professional.
>Grey Vetiver
EDT is too citrusy-metallic-fresh, EDP is great but like EN the vetiver is a bit flat and two dimensional, even if it's more prevalent, and Parfum is oddly fresh, the vetiver seemed less than in the EDP the one time I tried it.
>Guerlain Vetiver (older, tall and narrow bottle)
Old person's house; I tested this years ago and I don't remember the details, but I distinctly remember there was something beyond the vetiver that smelled old, like the moldy air accord in Reve d'Ossian.
>Sycomore
Great, nicely floral and deep, but I'm not going to spend €250 for 75ml of juice, and I can never find this on souk.
>Molecule 03
It smells like vetiver the same way mint popsicles taste like mint.
>Fat Electrician
Great, but much sweeter and softer than what I'm looking for, I'd like a more raw/simplistic/unadulterated vetiver.
I'm going to see if I can find someplace to try Sultan Vetiver, Vetiver Extraordinaire, Vetiver d'Hiver, Ex Vetiver and TdH Intense Vetiver, is there something else I should try?
>>18501522I have the clear bottle. I use it from time to time. Pretty masculine for a feminine fragrance.
>>18501557>Guerlain Vetiver EDT (again)>PdE Vetiver Bourbon>Hermes Vetiver Tonka>Eight&Bob Nuit de Megeve>Fath Vetiver Gris>Malle French Lover>Nicolai Vetyvergl;hf
>>18501557I guess you could also try Mon Vetiver from essential parfums?
great cold weather cheap option
>>18501495ion no dis nigga talm bout imma pump 100 yeen no whut hitta nigga fr
>>18501576If perfumer anon is to be believed, then nicolai buys up failed briefs and repackages them. Considering how horrible nicolais vetiver smells I think that formula got knocked out in the first round of testing
>>18501584>still seething about Nicolaik
>>18501600>Still shilling a fraud because she’s a chosen oneGood goy
>>18501608It's tough being so far ahead of the curve...
I made my own perfume oil and labeled it "Fat Cock"
Top: Coconut, Ylang-ylang
Middle: Seaweed, Iris
Base: Guaiac Wood, Iso E Super
>>18501584you forgot the link to the discord
>>18501335succumbed to aids
>>18499648>>18501417How does intense differ from the normal prada l'homme? Are there other good designer scents with a clean vibe but not too citrus-forward like DHS? heard good things about costa azzurra
>>18501389>get a GCMS reportWho actually does this as a business?
I work in a clinical analytical chemistry lab and do a small amount of GCMS work and just can’t imagine there’s enough volume to make standards, method development, and what not profitable, but I also know little to nothing about the fragrance industry so I could easily be wildly wrong.
>>18501657it was retarded advice to begin with because it's useless without interpretation
>>18501487>>18501495>And one day, for no reason at all, people voted Hitler into power.
>uncle got a job at Louis Vuitton
Ill be rolling in the discount codes bros...
>>18501509Consider Ghost in the Shell.
>>18501678Doesn't it smell like milk?
>>18501671>without interpretationWhat do you mean?
>>18501681No, not at all. There’s nothing lactonic about it.
It’s basically just a very well performing freshie scent. The intended profile, according to ELDO, is that it “just smells like clean skin” and I’ve had two different people on two different occasions say that’s exactly what it smells like without any prompting from me.
>>18501673Even with discounts vuittonslop is overpriced.
I need light and airy fragrances so I'm intrigued.