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What are some genuinely good designer releases in recent years?

>>18502147
YSL Myself

>>18502147
H24+flankers

How do I smell good without spending a lot of money?

What's your best cheapies?

>>18502147
Dior Homme 2020

>>18502165
Axe Apollo is good

>>18502165
Nikos Sculpture
Joop Homme
Montblanc Legend Spirit

Is there anything like lataffa oud for glory but of higher quality? I quite like it but I’m willing to spend a bit more. Not initio oud for greatness levels, maybe something halfway.

>>18502188
Sauvage Elixir maybe?

>>18501411
>Bal d'Afrique
I’ll check it out. Thanks

Thanks for the suggestions about vetiver frags in the previous thread xoxo

>>18502198
cheers, anon

>>18502147
Sauvage Elixir, Imagination, Dior Homme Sport 2021, Costa Azzurra.
Note that these might be severely overpriced.

>>18502147
Dior Homme Sport, H24, Kenzo Homme EDP

Are there any good eau de cologne or eau fraiche modern releases?

What's the best woody, musky fragrance

>>18502165
>What's your best cheapies?
the ones I have

>>18502236
Hermes, Guerlain and Acqua di Parma habe lots of EDCs

>>18502147
Guerlain Vetiver (reformulated and released in 2022)

>>18502246
Picrel, for me.

>>18502263
forgot pic

You can only have 1 (one) fragrance for the whole of summer. You CANNOT spend more than £70 for 50 ml. What do you choose?

>>18502265
Green Water

>>18502265
Sel D'Issey

>>18502265
John Phillips Whatsapp

>>18502189
nta but I have an elixir sample and a bottle of lattafa ofg and they're not even remotely similar
>>18502214
what's costa azzurra like? been wanting to check it out

>>18502265
Eau Sauvage

just tried bois imperial because it kept being spammed in the previous threads. it smells like a cream soda and an herb garden. still not sure if i like it, but it smells very interesting and addictive. the type you go back to your wrist for.

i don't know if i'd buy it over my current daily driver though (detour noir).

>>18502293
>daily driver
>detour noir
grim

Why is Dior Homme 2020 so weak

>>18502300
So that pajeets won't abuse it.

>>18502265
Encre Noire Sport

>>18502165
>I want to try a lot of different perfumes before settling on a bottle
Decants
>I want one or two solid fragrances as long as I like them and they have good performance
Test at sephora or other perfume shops then buy from ebay or fb groups. I got my 100ml Dior Homme for $80 and my 50ml Tobacco Vanille for $140 from reputable fb groups. I rarely see 100ml designer bottles going for over $150 on these groups so you can get a steep discount if you wait for one
>I don't want to fuss around with resellers or secondhand or sampling
Le Male EDT for summer, Lalique Pour Homme (Lion bottle) for winter. Solid performance, good scents, good price. Le Male is $60 on Jomashop and Lalique is $27.

>>18502265
easily AdG and nothing comes close

>>18502300
Anon in the last thread said it's giga juiced with iso-e super which causes anosmia

Yesterday I tested putting vaseline on the wrist and inner elbow of my left arm to see if it makes the fragrance last longer. I guess it does "work" by not evaporating as much so it lasts longer, the problem is that it means also doesn't smell as much. The worst part is that I could smell the vaseline, sometimes more than the fragrance itself. It might vary based in the fragrance you use, I used my shortest lasting cologne. I couldn't say exactly how much longer it lasted but it's like comparing a fragrance at a third of its intensity lasting one third longer. Not worth it for me and I would not recommend it unless A. You find a moisturizer that is truly odorless or you don't mind smelling it with your fragrance, and B. You have something you want to smell at a portion of its intensity. I'll stick to staying hydrated by drinking lots of water.

>>18502327
Try castor oil or coconut oil next. Generally fragrance lasts longer on dirty skin because the oils in the fragrance get fixed by the oil on your skin and will last longer. Castor oil is great for skin and doesn't have a scent like how coconut oil does. Haven't tried it tho

>>18502320
This guy wants you to get scammed, don't listen to him. Stick to reputable discounters. Don't fuck with ebay or anything second hand unless you can spot a fake or don't care about getting fakes. Also understand that when you buy decants you can assume it's a clone unless you can prove otherwise.

>>18502331
Thanks for the advice. I actually don't want my fragrance to last longer but I was curious if and how these things work.

>>18502165
Jaipur Homme
All versions of Encre Noire

>>18502336
>Also understand that when you buy decants you can assume it's a clone unless you can prove otherwise.
Maybe if you're decanting Aventus for some reason. But you should be decanting more obscure fragrances that you can't easily try IRL

>>18502323
>>18502301
what's the point of wearing something if anons around you will get noseblind

>>18502336
If you get scammed you are retarded. If you can't lurk a fb group and determine who is reputable within a week you are giga retarded. Just don't be a fucking dumb idiot magdumping your wallet on the first thing you see and you'll be fine. All of my bottles and decants are from FB groups and they're all legit because I can identify who a good seller is, and because good groups ban scammers with extreme prejudice, and because I can smell a dupe in 2 seconds because dupes are trash. Just because you, anon, are too stupid to find a good deal, doesn't mean other anons are too.

>>18502165
Encre Indigo

>>18502349
>I can smell a dupe in 2 seconds because dupes are trash
How do you know what the real one smells like?

RIP to my favorite sample. If anyone has found a bottle of this let me know. Or a good dupe. It's my favorite pine-seabreeze scent.

>>18502356
Well blended, complex, with unique notes. Easy to match up the note pyramid. If it's from a house I'm familiar with you can usually detect the compositional DNA they follow. Originals are smooth from top to base. Dupes are often harsh off the top or use aromachemicals that have more chemical notes. Also dupe houses are going to be pursuing fragrances with high sales that they can capitalize on. The fragrances I am sampling are not going to be the target of dupers, and if they were the returns would be so low that the duper's budget for making the dupe would be so low that it would have no chance of holding the nuances of a well-made fragrance composition. But you knew all this already, right anon? You were just testing me I hope. You're not a noselet are you?

I found this in my suitcase,
what do?

>>18502368
stop, drop and roll

>>18502368
Hate coconut. Simple as.

>>18502265
One's a bit restrictive.
Probably Light Blue Eau Intense.
>>18502284
Costa Azzurra EDP is aromatic (like rosemary and cypress and a tiny bit like lavender), dry-woody (like cedar and a bit like vetiver, not like creamy sandalwood) and salty-marine (like seaweed and salt, not really like ozone or calone).
The Parfum is similar enough, but more dry-woody and less salty-marine.
I definitely prefer the EDP overall.

>>18502368
Wtf do you mean “found”?
Did you put it there, or steal it?

>>18502365
I thought you would say you go to the mall and test the real ones or order real samples to compare them to. I really did not expect your answer to be "I just guess and pray I'm not getting a dupe." I'm glad that works for you but I'm too paranoid and that would not meet my burden of proof. I never knew how lucky I was to be so selective and just be able to buy the real stuff. Thanks anon and good luck on your decant journey.

>>18502393
>he buys fragrances they sell at the mall
bahahahaha

>>18502198
what did you settle on?

>>18502393
>just guess and pray
that's your takeaway? I am not gambling on the first retard that posts their decant list. If that's your approach to buying person-to-person online, yeah definitely stick to paying retail. But anyway it must be nice having a mall that carries private collections of niche perfumers. If I get a dupe of Houbigant Tobac Nomade or Fougere Royale, I would honestly be impressed someone took the time not just to dupe them, but also for the seller to buy them and hope to scam me out of $10 with them.

>>18502384
Steal

>>18502410
>impressed someone would dupe fougere royale
https://theduabrand.com/products/fougere-royalty

My smal collection, what do you think?

>>18502407
I settled on trying as many suggestions as possible next time I go to my usual niche frag store, and I got my hopes especially high for Sultan Vetiver and French Lover.

>>18502368
I love coconut in fragrances, too bad those that use it usually have poor performance or are feminine scents

>>18502422
Then there’s nothing to discuss.

Enjoy your ill gotten gains.

I don’t know anything about perfumes, but I want something that smells like Hypnôse Homme by Lancôme. What do you recommend?

>>18502471
Have you tried Hypnôse Homme by Lancôme?

>>18502471
Never tried any of Lancome's frags for men. Do they even still make them? All the stores here only stock their frags for women.

>>18502473
They discontinued it, and the ones left go for like 200 bucks, desu

>>18502433
Original Armani Code is based. My dad wears it

>>18502165
Paco Rabanne Pour Homme
Cool Water
Zino
All 3 Encres Noire

>>18502365
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lG-ziPSDPrE

Looking for a perfume that smells like Reuzel blue pomade, any knowers?

>>18502147
TdHermes EdP Intense
Hugo Boss Elixir

>>18502165
Cremo Vintage Suede ($25) (Light leather + raspberry)
Moschino Uomo? ($21) (Sprite)
Rochas Moustache Eau de Parfum ($35) (Babycat)
Rochas L'Homme ($28) (Happy spiced shower gel)

>>18502438
I like the coconut scent but apparently the guerlain one is actually for women (I am sure it was advertised as unisex when I got it)

>>18502438
Try Snowy Owl. For a coconut mint scent it can occupy a cool spot as a winter freshie.

>>18502290
Real Chad and eau sauvage pilled

I've been meaning to try ADP oud and sandalo. Has anyone tried those?

I got a bottle of D&G Velvet Wood. Surprisingly it starts with a citrus blast that is not listed on the notes. It doesn't last long before it opens into a spicy and realistic wood scent. The benzoin and leather notes make it very elegant and opulent but it keeps a zesty note throughout. Unfortunately it smells exactly like the home fragrance of a rich family I knew. I'm going to wait until fall and see if by wearing it a couple of times I can disassociate the smell, otherwise I wont be able to keep wearing it. Rodrigo is also the perfumer for Arquiste and that is exactly the same profile I got when I tested a couple of their perfumes at a store. They all smell very expensive and high quality but not as wearable because they seem very specific to the lifestyles of the rich. Velvet Wood has a a few contradictions, it's spicy but smooth, it is familiar but also exotic, and it's woody but also light. It doesn't project much but it's quite linear and seems like it would last quite a bit but nothing excessive. Would be nice for a vacation scent, for a place or experience you would want to imprint with a perfume. For people who don't have the home fragrance connection that I do it might smell like the aroma of heavy dark wood furniture, leather bags, on a patio with a citrus plant.

tldr: woody and airy home fragrance for rich people

I found a good deal on JPG In The Navy. How does it compare to the original. I was going to buy a bottle of the EDT but this cropped up and wondering if its better.

>>18502147
Angel's Share On The Rocks

>>18502728
Fleur du Male is the only discontinued flanker that I see get any attention, so probably nothing special.

>>18502236
Dior Homme Cologne

>>18502290
same

>>18502300
it's not you just go noseblind fast

>>18502342
that zee frags guy has definitely sold me a clone of jazz club before

>>18502142 (OP)
neet here, just picked up a la rive prestige the man (grey, eau de parfum). will i make it?
i read that it copycats the "1 million" perfume

Fragrances that evoke this certain photograph?

Ordered a sample of cdg Avignon, what am I in for?

PSA: Glorious Oud is better than Oud for Glory. Better spice notes and doesn’t smell like a BR540 clone. The saffron is still nice.

What are frags you like but won't wear for other reasons?

JPG Le male. Very good scent but it's known as a homosexual fragrance where I'm from (maybe also globally?). So I'm not gonna be wearing something that makes gays think I'm advertising.

Any good fragrances for a younger guy? Something that isn't dark and that isn't pretentious because I don't look like some 60yo sprezaturra italian billionaire lol. Just a frag that's smart and attractive while still being masculine/boyish.

>>18503018
L'Eau d'Issey Pour Homme, maybe. Look at the notes and see if it resonates with you.

>>18502999
Yeah i'm a bit disappointed that OfG smells like BR540. I mean I like it but I wanted an oud frag

>>18503018
It's hard for a fragrance to be pretentious imo
I could see the guy you posted wearing anything from YSL MYSLF to Oud satin mood, it doesn't really matter, the only thing that matters if what you like smelling on yourself
"muh date frags", "muh gym frags", those are memes.

>>18503018
>>18503042
But to actually answer your question
>YSL MYSLF (any flanker)
>Kenzo Homme EDP or Intense
>Kenzo Homme EDT although it's quite different from other flankers
>Dior Homme Sport
>JPG Le Male Le Parfum
>EP Bois Imperial
>Dior Bois d'Argent if you have money to waste
>D&G The One, terrible performance so get a 150ml and overspray like a madman
>Tom Ford Noir Extreme (not the other flankers but this one precisely)
Make sure to try all of them before buying, you might not like all scent profiles

>>18503023
>wanted an oud frag
I don’t think you’re going to find that in an arab clone

I just want a good oud (or "oud") without goddamn s*ffron.

>>18503046
I don't mean real oud, I just mean an oud accord or whatever. I wanted an entry level frag with forward oud notes in the top and drydown. Clean western "oud" not barnyard fecal purist stuff (which I enjoy just to smell privately but don't like wearing)
Also >>18503047, saffron is nice but fuck man

>>18503042
>It's hard for a fragrance to be pretentious imo
Clearly you don't know about my ultra niche Profound Sadness Parfum, with notes consisting of blood, concrete, aldehydes, linen, and sandalwood

>>18503049
I said hard, not impossible. But "pretentious" in my mind mostly refers to intentionally strange or offensive scent profiles, not merely challenging ones that are actually interesting and complex
Toskovat for example is clearly a pretentious house because they go out of their way to make their stuff smell like shit, while Profumum Roma or Parfum d'Empire (just examples that came to mind) are not despite not all of their scents being easily wearable

why is it the best fragrance ever created

>>18503061
I like it a lot, but you know damn well it is not the 'best', unless you define best as unoffensive people's pleaser.

>>18502977
Every storm a serenade by Imaginary authors or Encre Noire

>>18503087
>Imaginary authors
I can't imagine anybody recommending this brand other than a shill. To this day still the worst scents I have ever smelled, hands down. I wouldn't even recommend a sample.

>>18502300
it is sorta weak at first.
you smell it off yourself right after you spray it
then it seems to disappear for a while
then you start catching it off yourself more
and it continues for surprisingly long
it's not a bold scent, but the performance is above average

>>18502300
I always feel it weak when I use it, then when I leave the clothes I was wearing and come back to my room it smells nuclear.

How long did it take for your nose to become noticeably better at recognizing the different notes and accords? I assume it is an ongoing process, and for all the scents, you get to smell a new facet, based on multitude of factors, like temperature, humidity, how old the fragrance is, what other aroma-chemicals are in the air, your current mood, etc.
Today, I finally "found" the mint note in CAHSEE. At first, I smelled just a fresh sweet orangeade, with vanilla, kind of oscillating between both. Time passed, and I could differentiate the vanilla from the tonka, and notice the musk at the tail end of the orange. Then I finally could get the wood accords. And today, after 1 hour from a reapply, I could finally get a sweet mint, separately from the orange.

Any recommendations of more minty forward fragrances? Someone recommended Guerlain L'Homme (not the Ideal ones), but that it could feel too boozy.

>>18503113
I noticed I'm always sensitive to aldehydic aromas to the point that some herbs register as soapy to me. Ginger, coriander, cinnamon, and even cherry. I think it has something to do with my soap-tasting cilantro gene

Why is /fa/ so obsessing over it? Is it actually THAT good?

>>18503005
you're wearing perfume so about 95% of people already think you're gay
just wear what you like

>>18503018
Dior Homme Sport is a good start, i guess

>>18503061
a safe and boring frag, def not the best
3/10 btw, made me reply (again)

>>18503113
>How long did it take for your nose to become noticeably better at recognizing the different notes and accords?
it's getting better but ofc the ride never ends

>>18503113
>Any recommendations of more minty forward fragrances?
imo Guerlain Homme EdP is not too boozy
some minty frags:
>ELDO YOSLY
>Heeley Menthe Fraiche
>Xerjoff Torino21
>Guerlain Aqua Allegoria Herba Fresca
>Diptique Eau de Minthé
>Nicolai L'Eau Chic/L`Eau Mixte
>Amouage Beach Hut Man
>Pineward Boreal
>Creed Viking

Going to sephora right now, give me frags I should try

Summers coming to an end but any of you got aquatics you’d recommend?

>>18503162
Everyone is gonna say Kenzo EDP or Sel d'Issey but I find both to be pretty unsatisfying
Kenzo EDT is actually quite good and better than the EDP in my opinion (though to be fair they're very different)

>>18503160
>give me frags I should try
H24+flankers and Terre d’Hermès Intense
gl;hf

>>18503160
Prada Carbon

To those who have smelled it, how is it? Is it good for what it is (cheap rose + oud)? I want a more masculine and more affordable alternative to ombre nomade to use daily.

>>18503165
>>18503174
Man I found nothing
>H24 + flankers
Not my thing, too sharp, not a fan of the metallic note either
>TDH
Never liked it or its flankers
>Prada Carbon
They didn't have it

Also tried
>Le Beau
Is this just tonka? I barely smell any coconut. This is pretty much Le Male + some bullshit. At least LMLP and Elixir have something going on, this is just bad, and how is it so powdery?
>Oud Minerale
Actually an interesting frag but not very wearable, it's classy in its own way but I can't see myself making this a daily frag which is what I'm looking for. There's something sour about it for lack of a better word that is interesting but would probably be unpleasant if you caught whiffs of it all day long
>Myslf EDP
It's good, not great, but good. Kind of a "dumb reach" type I guess, not very impressive
>Bois Pacifique
This is kind of good but seems to dry down into literally smelling like coca cola
>Oud Wood
This is what the hype is about? It's a nice frag, but it should be 100 bucks cheaper. Smells pretty classy and attractive despite the obviously synthetic "oud"
>Tobacco Vanille
Too sweet, uninteresting. I get a strong honey smell from it for some reason.
>Tuscan Leather
Good, but there are better leather frags for less
>Neroli Portofino
Extremely nice, airy neroli. Would definitely wear in the summer, has that laid-back mediterranean vibe. The price is beyond ridiculous lmao
>Valentino flankers
Similar to DHI, pretty good but too powdery for me.
>Givenchy Gentleman flankers
Nothing impressive there
>Eros Energy
lmfao this is terrible, smelled like I spilled fanta on myself
>YSL Y EDP
Uninteresting ambery blue + apple
>Voyage d'Hermes EDT
Nice light tea frag, not what I'm looking for (too airy and not a fan of that DNA which you can also find in TDH)
>Kenzo line
Had already tried them, not a big fan on myself even though they're objectively pretty good and definitely original

I'm really starting to lose hope on finding something I like

>>18503143
thanks for the recs. Of those, I think the easiest for me to try are the Xerjoff, Guerlain and Amouage
> creed
I ain't ever giving money to those lying faggots. Muh 1700s perfume to the queen bs.
I still can't wrap my mind on how aventus got popular. The pepper-citrus-musk/ambroxan interaction is disgusting. It reminds me of a specific musty taste that a badly prepared tomato sauce gives out.

>>18503218
>I ain't ever giving money to those lying faggots
good, same here desu
still a nice frag tho
>I still can't wrap my mind on how aventus got popular
right place+right time, i guess
btw one more great frag with mint is Green Water from Fath

>>18502977
Acqua di Sale, Encre Noire a l'Extreme, maybe You or Someone Like You.
>>18502988
See pic related.
>>18503005
Cocaïne, it's great but just not my style.
Bois d'Encens, it's great but I'm not going to spend that much money on a frag.

>>18503018
Plenty of good frags for a younger guy, just go to your local sephora and try a few things out.
We could suggest anything, but if you're not familiar with frags in general it's going to be impossible for you to know what you will or won't like without trying them.
>>18503042
This to be honest family.
>>18503049
That's pretentious marketing, but I can't imagine anyone who's not very familiar with frags smelling Sauvage, Kouros and Ganymede and saying one smells more "pretentious" than the other.
>>18503061
Because you like plain and simple, or because you haven't smelled a great many things.
>>18503113
I was into tea and wine and whisky and rum for many years before getting into frags, so I was already decent at picking smells apart.
It is an ongoing process, definitely, and the best way to improve in my opinion is to smell as much stuff as possible and give it a name, i.e., this cleaning product smells like lavender and contains linalool, these three frags all have a soft, somewhat flowery and creamy smell in common and they're all based on sandalwood and they all contain javanol.
As for minty frags, Menthe Fraiche, though it has pretty bad performances for the price, You or Someone Like You, though the mint note disappears pretty quickly, or Viking (the one by Fragrance World, with acceptable performance and no batch variations, both of which can't be said about Creed's), though mint isn't really prevalent beyond the opening.

>>18503162
Kenzo Homme EdP
Sel d'Issey

>>18503216
Idk if it's just me but I get hints of fancy hotel soap from Tobacco Vanille. Especially at the drydown.

Terre D'Hermes must be the most overrated fragrance ever.
Dior Sauvage is the most underrated from the fragrance snobs

>>18503113
>How long did it take for your nose to become noticeably better at recognizing the different notes and accords?
Bold of you to assume I would ever stop being a noselet.

>>18503271
I don't care for either of them.

>>18502977
Something woody, irisy and mossy. like just before a rainstorm hits.

>>18502977
Frederic Malle French Lover (Bois d’ Orage (=storm wood) for the US market)

>>18503113
You or someone like you is extremely minty

>>18503124
I think the obsession is with the Original / Intense versions. And the Sport flanker was good

>>18503162
JeP Acqua

>>18503271
>Terre D'Hermes must be the most overrated fragrance
It grows on you
I'm halfway through my bottle and just enjoying it more

>>18503303
I'm the opposite. I liked it at first but every time I smell it I hate it more and more.

>>18502438
Quattro Pizi by Xerjoff

>>18502422
degenerate

Speaking of Terre dhermes
I saw this random perfume in the aus version of Tj Maxx and it was genuinely really nice smelling but looked like a Indian dupe brand so skipped on it.
It smelled like CdG Concrete and LV Lovers throughout. Online only one poorfag reviewer says it’s meant to be terre dhermes but what do you think it best resembles looking just at the notes and my description?

>>18503318
Back when I was a brokefag, I used to wear a dollar store knock-off of Acqua di Gio. I since got more education/better jobs so I have been able to afford the real thing for a number of years, which I've pretty much always had on hand in addition to other frags.

Want to know something? I got far more compliments and favorable reactions while wearing the dollar store stuff than I've ever gotten wearing the real deal. I wish I was making that up, but I'm not.

>>18503061
The top notes are heavenly but the amberwood/tonka drydown bothers me

>>18503269
It wasn't one of the frags for which I kept the tester strip so I didn't experience the drydown. What I can say is that most Tom Ford frags (it seems to me at least) are nice but absolutely don't justify their price point in the slightest, they lack the complexity and quality you would expect from something in that price range
The only one I'd be willing to pay retail for is Noir Extreme and even then it's not that special, just a nice, somewhat refined gourmand.
It's too bad because there's some pretty good stuff in there (Neroli Portofino, Oud Wood, Tuscan Leather, Soleil Blanc, Ebene Fume, Lost Cherry which is great for women...) but they should be in the same price range as mainline Chanel and Dior
>typing this while smelling the drydown of oud wood which is too medicinal and frankly not as attractive as people make it out to be ("le ebin dark and sexy frag" lmao not even close, The One does it better at a third of the price)

>>18503018
ignore most of this, these are alot of contrarian 80s-00s scents that are drug store and Wal-Mart colognes, 4chan is just full of "new and popular = bad" contrarians that grew up without friends or anything. Go to a sephora and smell some stuff. If you're too shy, just try shit like Versace Eros Flame, Bleu De Chanel EDP, Burberry Hero EDP, Polo 67 (either version), or even the Sunrise on the Red Sand Dunes by Zara (LV Imagination clone)

If my decant of Oud Maximus doesn’t come in the mail today I’m going to kill myself

>>18503335
SORSD is decent but the performance is beyond abysmal to the point that it's not even worth it because twenty sprays last about an hour and completely fade within three hours

>>18503124
It's an all year that's not blue and the flankers without iris are great (so Sport and Cologne are good, Intense and Parfum or whatever suck. Iris is for brown people and troons)

>>18503162
Chrome Azure
Chrome Extreme
Replica Sailing Day
ADG Profondo Parfum

>>18503337
nigga you are just going noseblind

>>18503343
Nah when I rub my neck and smell my fingers there's nothing, nothing on my clothes either. It's EDC quality

Is the modern Dune PH still good? Rate?

I'm blind buying Dior Homme Intense, what am I in for?

Went to smell some TDH and tried H24 too. H24 is kinda weird it opens really synthetic and couldn't notice any notes but it turned super sweet after that. almost like sherbert. Copped regular TDH though from the cute goth girl with the cut scars.

>>18503162
Loewe Agua El
Missoni Wave

Can anyone suggest new stuff to try based on >>18503216 ?
Tomorrow I'll be going to a department store that has some more high end brands rather than the usual sephora slop

>>18503371
What do you have that you enjoy and generally what are you looking for? After trying so many things it should have given you some guidance and direction. Trying everything aimlessly will not get you anywhere.

>>18503357
disappointment

Can someone give me a good recommendation for open air stuff like raves?

>>18503373
I'm not even sure, I've tried loads of frags but never found anything that really impressed me to the extent that I'd want to wear it all the time
I "like" a lot of stuff, from heavy ouds to clean nerolis, but there's nothing so far that I've loved
I do dislike generic aquatics though, by that I mean one-dimensional frags with very prominent "ozonic" notes
There are lots of frags I find very interesting but that I wouldn't wear, like FM The Night or Tauer LDDM, these are enjoyable to discover but I want something for daily wear that smells attractive rather than just interesting
I guess I tend to enjoy fragrances that feature cardamom, like The One, LNDL/bleu electrique, Noir Extreme, LMLP... not really a requirement though since I also enjoy a lot of fragrances that don't have it

What I'm looking for is something I can just wear whenever, the kind that feels good to catch whiffs of throughout the day, that suits all occasions. I don't work in an office so I'm aiming for good performance and projection, not something light.

I got a sample of sel d'issey and it's the most generic, basic, boring office safe freshie I've ever smelled, why do people keep spamming this?

>>18503388
Rien

>>18502360
Molton Brown Coastal Cypress & Sea Fennel

>>18503163
>Kenzo EDT is actually quite good and better than the EDP in my opinion
Is this the modern version of the EDT (with the chopped bamboo bottle they use on the current lineup), or the original?

>>18502433
When i wear Armani come red my wife tries to rape me

>>18503336
thoughts and prayers, anon
btw i have a sample and it's nothing special (especially considering its price)

>>18503347
yes, 8,5/10
buy it if you like 90s frags

>>18503395
it's the latest bischbomb, imo not bad just boring as fuck

>>18503408
He's probably talking about the EDT Intense. The current formulation of the original EDT has zero longevity

>>18503408
>>18503428
I'm talking about the EDT which is an actual marine scent and reminiscent of the original from the 90s although it's different
Can't speak for the longevity

Wanted to blind buy Summer Oud from Miguel Matos but it's not on his website anymore
Feels bad man

>>18503391
If you like Oud Minerale you might enjoy Ganymede or Bois Imperial. If you like Cardamom you could try Gris Charnel. Its not a cardamom fragrance but have you tried Interlude? The original and the Black Iris flanker are both good.

>>18503431
I mean I like OM but I probably wouldn't wear it. I had a Ganymede sample a while ago, the opening was interesting but the drydown was unbearable, I don't know if it was the immortelle or what but it reminded me of curry and old bus seats. Bois Imperial is pretty good, the opening is excellent but similarly to Ganymede I'm not a fan of the drydown
>Gris Charnel
I've had my eye on this, I'll try it tomorrow. Is it wearable in the summer or too dense? I find some powdery fragrances to be nice but I usually avoid them because I dislike how they evolve in the heat (and winters here are short)
>Interlude
I've never tried any Amouage, I'll see about ordering some samples
Thanks

>>18503395
>>18503421
/frag/ is obsessed with cheap crap that avoids any current popular notes, DNA, etc.

After all, liking anything current might mean that brown people or redditors might like it, too... and the contrarian shut-ins here can't have that

>>18503437
thats the nth time you made this post itt. rent free, faggot

>>18503391
I think African Leather is a more wearable cousin of LADDM, and it's very cardamom-forward. Despite having some heavier notes, I was finding the 'dry' spiciness to work on my skin even in warm weather. It's not really a spice shop scent, more of a fancy home/garden store.

>>18503437
fuck off back to your discord, ywnbaw

>>18503061
when will they release something new?

>>18503483
They used up all their daring and creativity on AHS Superleggera. 10 more years before we get Bleu Elixir I think.

>>18503492
grim

I wish there was a "niche" equivalent to The One that performed better. And a summer flanker.
>>18503483
>>18503492
They're preparing for the next trend which will probably be masculine florals and clean woody scents, see YSL MYSLF and Dior Homme

>>18503442
keep seething and centering your tastes around what's contrarian, maybe it'll help you go back in time and not be unpopular your whole life

>>18503463
type that without crying, take a shower, hit the weights, have sex, get a clue etc

>>18503498
kek

>>18503495
Wrong. Its ambers. I would love for more masculine florals and clean woods to hit the designer racks though

>>18503391
>to the extent that I'd want to wear it all the time
>something I can just wear whenever
>that suits all occasions
That's not a thing. I would recommend you try stuff on your skin if you aren't already since it's totally different than paper. If you like LDDM try other stuff by Tauer, he makes really long lasting perfumes and there should be something from him you would like. I have Incense Extreme and while it lasts I go nose blind to it and it keeps popping up through the day. Incense Rose, which has cardamon, is quite interesting as well, heck if you want a long lasting bomb try Le Maroc Pour Elle, it takes a while to get used to due to the intensity but it is quite interesting. Not my favorite but you can also try LADAS, it's a popular and long lasting versatile scent. Outside of Tauer, if you want to check out another niche perfumery that makes long lasting scents check out Day Three, their Aylan lasts very long and it's quite nice, and their Filosofia doesn't last as long but it does have cardamon.

>>18503510
>That's not a thing
Out of curiosity why do you say that
Plenty of scents are fine year-round

>>18503511
There might be scents that work all seasons but not all occasions. The perfume you wear in the high heat would be a poor choice for a date night. You can wear any perfume all the time but it certainly wont be suited for everything. Those all-weather scents are inoffensive and uneventful and they always work because they don't do anything particularly well, jack of all trades, master of none.

>>18503528
Just wear your date scent all the time
>good for winter
>good for dates and classy occasions
>good for summer because freshies for summer are a meme, they don't last anyway
Problem fixed

>>18503051
toskovat is weareble. i wear inexcusible evil sometimes and people usually don't give a fuck or say it's interesting

>>18503531
Knock yourself out but that doesn't work for me. Wearing heavy winter scents in the heat is obnoxious and I have plenty of hot weather scents that last.

>>18503550
I wear Lalique Encre Noire and it smells super refreshing at summer

>>18503550
>hot weather scents that last.
Like what?

>>18503556
Kouros

>>18503561
based

What's a good backup fragrance? My cousin is kind of a slouch so when he's here prior to a family gathering I'm usually trying to get him sorted out but I'm tired of giving him my stuff.

>>18503162
If you can try Salaria by Giardino Benessere, such an awesome aquatic it's like a refined Acqua di Sale from Profumum Roma with great performance.

>>18503388
Sauvage Elixir
A Whiff of Waffle Cone
Etruscan Water if you’re trying to pull the hippies out of the group.

>>18503483
>>18503492
>>18503495
I finished my bottle of BdC EdP months ago but have been holding off on re-upping in the hope they release something new this year. If they don’t release something by Black Friday I’ll probably grab a bottle of the Parfum.

>>18503421
>>18503421
Kenzo vs d’issey vs Hermann?

Each is aquatic I think but has anyone tried them all to compare? Looking for a safe but interesting frag cuz poorfag

Lemon blast kinda day. 10 sprays.

any good frag for this fit? I wanna try something that smells like church but doesn't fade in 3 minutes

>>18503689
Orpheline

>>18503693
Thanks bro

>>18503681
Yeah, I have been mostly wearing 10-12 sprays of Eau de Rochas Homme this summer. Great summer fragrance.

>>18503689
L'Eau Trois
Avignon
Cardinal
La Liturgie des Heures
Lavs

>>18503681
Yeah, I have mostly been wearing 10-12 sprays of Eau de Rochas Homme this summer. Great summer fragrance and dirt cheap as well.

>>18503713
Damn goldmine, which one of them do you think is most long lasting and has great projection? so i can try it asap

>>18503727
See here >>18503229.

>>18503689
black tourmaline if you are a serious man

>>18503718
Yeah it's great for the almost nothing I paid, which I expect from Rochas after getting Moustache edp. EDRH is replacing Versace Eau Fraiche in my collection.

Fragrance related names for my two girl kittens? I was thinking Iris and Vetiver.

>>18503318
Tk Maxx used to sell some decent frags at a good discount, but now it seems all they sell is shitty dupes.

>>18503395
I like it because it's a fresh non-citrus aquatic that actually performs in the hot weather and doesn't just disappear after an hour, something I've struggled to find in the past, so in that regard it's a winner for me.
>>18503556
Sel D'Issey

>>18503766
Dolce and Gabbana

>>18503766
Absinthe and Opoponax

>>18503766
You nailed it with Iris and Vetiver, very cute kitties

>>18503732
thank you so much,this is what ive been looking for so long

>>18503061
isnt the edp better?

>>18503766
Sauvage and Invictus

>>18503689
Anything from Sorcinelli

>>18503803
Not even remotely

What notes or accords or DNA do you think will become popular to normies in the future?

Fragrances are for girls

>>18503837
you're just poor and MIGA

>>18503843
It's very effeminate for a man to wear fragrances

>>18503216
>Bois Pacifique

I'm intrigued. Is it a masculine coca cola? Trying to find one that's cold weather appropriate and not feminine.

>>18503556
From my hot weather fragrances >>18500944 the ones that last the most are:
>Romance for Men
>Armani Mania
>Gucci Nobile
>Mary Kay Quattro

They are no BI which you smell 3 days later but I put Nobile on this morning before work and I still smell it and it's night time. Also remember to spray your shirt if you want longevity.

>>18503823
blue and citrus are on the way out for summer, soapy/clean and tropical are replacing it.

gourmands are still king for cold for the foreseeable future but fruit gourmands will start to push out vanilla.

expect dior homme sport to get pushed as the new year round every day thanks to smart influencer marketing from dior

Can you help me understand what “blue” scents are? I’m quite familiar with Bleu de Chanel but no idea what makes it blue. I know it’s not equivalent to aquatic.

>>18503886
It's a cooler, fresh scent that isn't predominantly herbaceous/green. Le Male is a good example of a non-aquatic "blue" scent, especially because fougeres tend to evoke more green herbaceousness. That said aquatic notes are pretty characteristic of blues given that Cool Water pioneered the genre.

>>18503886
Blues are the evolution of the aquatic genre from the 90’s & 00’s. They’re an abstraction the aquatic profile to be more generically “blue”.

/Frag/ I had a thought and I’m curious about your opinion on the matter - I think I may have found a decent reason to layer fragrances. Vintage bottles.

What if you have a vintage bottle of something that’s been reformulated, say Azzaro Pour Homme, put on ~4 sprays of the vintage, then another 6 of the modern version over top of it?

Doesn’t have to be APH, any vintage frag.

>>18503900
bait

>>18503886
'Blue' frags and basically the modern fougere, citrus top, lavender mid, but with ambroxan instead of oakmoss as the base.
They aren't to be confused with aquatic frags which often come in blue bottles but smell very different.

>>18503891
Cool water isn't a Blue fragrance

>>18503879
>soapy/clean and tropical are replacing it.
examples?

>>18503823
Gourmands and sweet scents are not going anywhere. I think there is a serious disconnect and misunderstanding with how the mainstream uses scents. Aficionados have huge collections and try to keep up with the latest releases but the mainstream doesn't follow short lived trends, they go to the mall whenever they run out or when buying someone a gift. They just pick what they like and the tastes are still into the same vanilla, woody, sweet scents. Most people don't even use perfumes and if they get into it they are impressed by the most basic and mediocre shit. It makes sense why there are so many perfume companies and why it's such a huge industry, it's so easy to sell to normalfags.

I would argue that Aventus and it's many clones are Blue fragrances

Black, brown, blue, or cum, why can't we all just get along?

>>18503914
tropical: God of fire, pacific chill
clean: imagination, prada lhomme

>>18503918
consumer trends still exist. things still smell dated after so many years after trends change.

>>18503766
Lalique and Gucci.

>>18503766
But Iris and Vetiver is actually really nice and charming, actually.

>>18502251
are you taking about the Parfum?

>>18503061
edp is superior

>>18503658
Sel d'issey is not interesting in the slightest

>>18503939
God of fire is nice, should I grab one of the clones?

>>18503944
They do but not as fast as they change for hobbyists. Notes like carnation smell outdated because they went from ubiquitous to almost non-existent. Vanilla has never gone out of style and neither will gourmands.

What's the verdict on YSL La Nuit de l'Homme?

>>18503495
>And a summer flanker.
The One Grey

>>18503766
Terror and Magnificence

>>18502142 (OP)
I got Dior Homme Intense today, did not expect the chocolate note since it wasn't listed on fragrantica. It's an 8/10 for me, I love the iris in this it's a lot more denser than I expected. On my skin it kinda reminds me of Another 13's drydown which is odd but the choco iris combo projects nuclear in the air.

>>18503766
Sneed and Chuck

This arrived today and I love it.

>>18504062
Cartel boss ahh fragrance

>>18503803
>>18503973
The EDP is the worst of the trio. Parfum > EdT > EDP.
It tries to cover all bases, and is just mid. Also, recent batches (I think like last 4 years at least) it is full of incense.

>>18503492
Is it true that superleggera felt more like a BdC release than an Allure one?

>>18504086
just say "ass" you nigger influenced, tiktok brained retard

I got Prada L'Homme Intense today. What do I think of it?

>>18504135
>Prada L'Homme Intense

lavender and powder - rep of a Dior.

Love it in colder weather, cuz when its hot it reminds me of coming back from recess and smelling like Axe/Lynx.

>>18504055
Another 13 and DHI have ambrette seeds, responsible for that musky, nutlike scent

What's a GOATed daily except Dior Sauvage EDT?

>>18504158
Saar.

>>18504162
>Haven't discovered Antaeus
I'm safe for now

>>18503846
the prophet (pbuh) wore perfume. therefore, it is sunnah.
>>18503992
indeed, it was a disappointed and someone itt is getting paid by shiseido to shill it
>>18504185
you're not safe from it being mutilated by reformulations

Continuing >>18503216

>Gris Chanel
Extremely disappointing. Painfully generic powdery iris, leans feminine to my nose. High quality but not attractive on a man. Projects well though
>Costa Azzurra
Mediocre. It does dry down into a pleasant, fresh piney scent but it doesn't capture that carefree mediterranean vibe like I wanted it to
>Sand Dance
Interesting scent, completely unisex, but there are exactly zero occasions where I can see myself wearing this
>Haltane
Mediocre "oud", nothing much to say about it
>Layton Exclusif
This is something I'd expect Versace to release, the price they're asking for it is outrageous
>Greenley
Fresh green scent. Inferior to H24 Herbes Vives, I thought hating on PDM was contrarian snobbery but it's actually justified
>Portrait of a Lady and Musc Ravageur
Lumping these together because they both smell high quality and are interesting scents but not the kind of thing I'm looking for at all
>Acne Studios by Frederic Malle
Smells like some gimmicky CDG frag. Just clean
>Frederic Malle Promise
Yeah this is nice but it's just something you smell for the experience
>Santal Blush
Quite good but again brought down by the stupid Tom Ford price point, also leans slightly feminine to my nose
>BI
This is always solid. Every time I smell it the only thing that comes to mind is "yeah, that's good". Might buy it again.
>BI Extrait
Weird. BI DNA but with added oud-like notes. Not great
>Bvlgari Tygar
This smells pretty interesting, among the better ones I've tried today
>Oud Satin Mood
Beautiful scent, really excellent stuff. I want to buy it, but I already have a ton of winter scents and I'm not sure if the rose is fresh enough for summer.
>La Nuit de l'Homme
Tried this again as I left and walked past a sephora and it's unironically among the best I've smelled today. Shame about the performance. At this point I'm thinking of getting the arab clone with amped up longevity and calling it a day

The more fragrances I smell, the less impressed I am

My girlfriend can't stop wearing it

>>18503790
The ones with the best performance from that graph (on my own sweet skin) are LAVS, Interlude Man, Casbah, Arso, Rien II, Incense Extreme, Incense, and LLDH.
The only ones with "bad" performance are Cardinal and L'Eau Trois.
Performance might come at the cost of scent, and mostly all of these aren't cheap anyway, so I recommend you just try them out and pick the one with the smell you like best, otherwise you'll be getting something that lasts longer and projects more but it won't be THE frag you wanted, which is a lot more valuable.

>>18504045
Kek

What's a mens scent that all women love?

>>18504233
Nothing will be loved by ALL women, but Sauvage EDT.

>>18504196
Have you tried Costa Azzura Acqua? it's more Italian coast-y for me, it almost has that ADG DNA

>>18504236
my experience has been opposite the memes. I love the smell of sauvage EDT but no woman has ever made mention of it. Aventus, on the other hand gets positive comments from women all the time. I don't even care for the smell myself and I can't even smell it after like 30 mins. I think it really must smell different when worn vs. from the bottle, but I don't think I've ever come across someone else wearing it.

Just ordered Dior Jules (modern reformulation). What am I in for? Also, would it be redundant if I already have Kouros, Yatagan and Devin?

>>18504233
Sauvage if you're a handsome sex haver.

>>18504233
Bleu de Chanel but they will love it only AFTER they see what fragrance you are wearing - if you do not see the bottle and the Chanel writings on it, they won't like it that much

>>18504233
Women love sweet gourmand smells unfortunately.

>>18504233
myslf edp, y edp

>>18502270
Good choice

>>18502265
Ophidian Mango Bliss

>>18504223
Have you tried Costa Azzura Acqua? it's more Italian coast-y for me, it almost has that ADG DNA

>>18504223
Why don't you just buy a classic neroli cologne like Acqua di Parma

>Bergamask
It's fine. Orange juice and urinal cake. The orange note is dominant over the bergamot. The musk makes is smell more like mandarins. The musk itself is very clean and inoffensive, but still has that pissy / urinal cake tang thinly present behind everything as a reminder that this is still a smell for men. Not sweet just fresh and crisp without any spice. I'll wait to see how long the citrus notes will hold and what it will smell like after. I'm guessing the completely absent lavender note will become detectable as the bergamot dries and this will turn into a classic fougere.

sotd BI for the first time in a while. still snice
>>18504254
a great maaculine herbal scent. not close to kouros and yatagan at all, maybe a bit like devin but more green and not redundant.

>>18504324
>a great maaculine herbal scent. not close to kouros and yatagan at all, maybe a bit like devin but more green and not redundant.
Thanks.

Anyone here have AdP Colonia Oud? Seems like it could be a good summer scent. Demachy made it so I’m kind of intrigued.

>>18504317
What's the best Acqua di Parma scent?

>>18504390
Colonia and any of its flankers.
currently i own Intensa and Essenza, CLUB, Fico and Oud & Spice.
Probably going to get the OG Colonia and Oud at some point. or the Fico Riserva when i finish my current bottle

>>18504315
I haven't. I guess what bothers me about Costa Azzurra is that it's too classy, it smells like a business dinner in Monaco, not a vacation on the riviera. Faggy description but you get what I mean
>>18504317
Because I don't like the typical cologne profile (heavy sharp masculine citrus) and want something with good performance but if AdP has something like that I'd be happy to take a look

After thinking about it I won't buy Oud satin mood because it's just too classy and I'd look retarded wearing something so elegant in my daily life since I work in trades
Currently debating whether to buy BI again and stop thinking about fragrances, or keep looking for a nice realistic fruity scent (the issue being all the good ones evaporate half an hour in, e.g. Hermes), or get a LNDL clone

>>18504371
It works better in spring or fall, there is little brightness to the citruses.

>>18504421
>if AdP has something like that I'd be happy to take a look
Well, they have Colonia Intensa and Essenza

>>18504431
Do they last?

>>18504437
NTA, but both of them have great longevity at least for me.

>>18503766
Ralph and Lauren

>>18502977
Thunderstorm by Demeter

>>18502265
L’Eau d’Issey Pour Homme Sport

>>18504162
>my signature scent is not here
heh, im officially not brown

>>18504440
Alright thanks
Didn't think it would be so hard to find a clean, fruity/summery, non powdery frag with good performance.

>>18504421
I work in trades too and if I know its not going to be a shitty sweaty stinky day I’ll absolutely wear something nicer. Last winter my daily for work was Tobacco Vanille, which is no Oud Satin Mood to be sure but if you like that one absolutely be that nigga on the jobsite

>>18504495
You don't think it's weird? I feel like there should be some kind of cohesion between your outfit (if not your environment) and your frag but maybe I'm overcomplicating it. Yeah idk maybe I'll try it

>>18504498
Maybe. Fashion and fragrance and all that is fairly personal so if it feels weird dont do it. I work with all other men who are older than me so I dont really want them to detect my fragrances. I wear a couple sprays under my shirt so it wafts up through the day for me to enjoy and thats it. So what I choose to put on depends more on my mood and the vibe since I’m always wearing the same outfit at work

>>18504022
point to one modern mainstream successful vanilla leading gourmand from the 80s and one from the 90s, especially for men.

>>18504162
I'm guessing this screenshot is years old
also, go back

>>18504485
Essenza would be a great choice imo. Very refreshing but also long-lasting.

Am I the only gay nigga here?
SOTD: Dior Homme Intense

>>18504254
Juicy lime, old timey green leathery base.

>>18504508
Yeah understandable. Do you switch up frags a lot or mostly stick to a few that you rotate

>>18504512
>long lasting
Despite being an edc? huh
Apparently it's similar to Neroli Portofino, should be nice. Thanks for the rec

>>18504536
Sometimes I’ll wear one for ages then switch it up a bunch of times. I recently got a bunch of decants so I’ve been testing Le Male EDT and Prada L’homme rather than my typical Oud Minerale. I like Le Male because the base sits as a skin scent for a long time, which is nice because my days can run pretty long. I’ll probably do likewise once it cools off as well as my collection of samples leans heavily towards winter scents, but I cant get enough of TV and wear the hell out of it as soon as the weather starts getting crisp.

>>18504541
Yeah, it's known to have good longevity, so it's not just me.

>>18504552
Have you tried Caron PUH? I'm wondering if it's a less powdery version of Le Male or if it's too dated to be worth trying out
>my collection of samples leans heavily towards winter scents
Unfortunately most interesting scents tend to be for colder weather, it's hard to make a good freshie it seems
>>18504560
Cool. I'm liking the current trend of new frags having good performance, it's time the watered down estee lauder crap where a 130€ EDP becomes a skin scent after an hour came to an end

>>18504510
>modern
>mainstream
>successful
>vanilla leading
>gourmand
>from the 80s and one from the 90s
>for men
That's your criteria. Going by the accords and notes Joop Homme, Boss Bottled, A Men, and Le Male, are sweet and have vanilla and are from the 80s and 90s. I don't have first hand experience with them.

>>18504577
>if it's too dated to be worth trying out
you are such a sissy faggot holy shit

>>18504592
So that's a yes

Any opinions on Clinique Happy For Men?

>>18504612
It's awesome and citrusy but doesn't last long. I don't know if the modern formulation is worth it, I used to wear it as a teen like 20 years ago.

Alot of those older fragrances smell pretty similar to eachother, but I still love'em.

>>18504612
My first frag, ware it at my first school dance in middle school.

>>18504595
please do not wear it

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>>18504629
>>18504629
>>18504629
>>18504629

>>18504618
That has always been the case, and will always be the case.

>>18504653
Well, I'm not mad at it, I'll enjoy them with their minor differences.

>>18503681
>>18503718
It's good, but really does need a lot of sprays as it's quite weak