Thread 18503930

"how about an outfit that costs $500, needs to be professionally adjusted before it can be worn, looks gay, you can only wear it once because you'll be a different size and shape next year when you need it again, is uncomfortable and restrictive, and can only be washed by a professional industrial technique"

"Nah, there's no way anybody would fall for that"

>mfw people make themselves presentable in society
REEEEEEEEE

I’m not poor so I’d never be caught in a $500 suit.

>>18503940
Presentability is completely subjective. Why should that have to entail an outdated garment that's restrictive, expensive, and inconvenient? Not to mention that these body fedoras don't even look good to anyone except larpers anymore. It was one thing when people actually wore them for important business, but now the only people wearing suits for business are accountants in the Midwest and LinkedIn influencers. It's literally an outfit of cringe and poverty, while actual businesspeople in silicon valley and New York are wearing casual outfits and technical materials to work.

based OP

every word is valid

suits are a humiliation ritual. goyslave uniform

>>18503950
>Presentability is completely subjective
Not really, there are societal standards of presentability independent of your subjective opinion. These vary from culture to culture but aren't 'subjective'

>>18503961
Except the fitting part. Just don't be a slob and maintain good habits.

>>18503979
age will catch up to you or your gains will fuck up the fit

it takes so much effort to get the tailored look but it's so restrictive

>>18503930 (OP)
You cant even get the materials for $500 these days

>>18503989
age will catch up to me? what the fuck is that supposed to mean? That sounds like cope for your own bad food habits.

you sound like my fatass coworker who tried to convince me that when i hit 30, my metabolism would shut down and I will gain 50lbs of fat overnight. I am 32 and that did not happen, I am very much the same as I was when I was 21.

Here is a protip. Don't ever get fat. Once you do, there is no going back, unless u are fine with being on ozempic your whole life.

>>18503979
Literally impossible. I am healthy for the most part, but even within the healthy range my body type fluctuates drastically between thin, muscular, and muscular with fat. I just have different diet and exercise habits with different phases of life. I could pick one body type and stick to it forever, but that's boring and unnecessarily difficult when it should be my right to gain and lose weight or do different exercise routines at my own whim. I haven't [had to] buy any shirts and pants in nearly two decades; but I need to buy a new $1000 suit once or twice a year and wear each one exactly once. It is massive fucking bullshit and a scam. I want to literally kill anyone who is involved in propagating this absolute shit.

Body fedoras are actually a lot like footbinding. They're expensive, restrictive, and inconvenient, but they still raise your marriageability by a small margin because of all the people before us who grew up thinking they were cool. But right now we're in the phase where upper-class and urban men have already moved away from this expired garment while the poor people still chase it, because they're so far from wealth it will take 10-20 years to catch up on actual fashion.

>>18503930 (OP)
>looks gay
Speak for yourself, faggot.
>$500
Yes, you consoomer faggot. $500 for something that will last your entire lifetime, unlike the slop you keep buying every few months.
>professionally adjusted before it can be worn
Wow, what a war crime. Wearing clothes that actually fit you, unlike the garbage bags everyone wears.
>you can only wear it once because you'll be a different size and shape
How about not being a degenerate gluttonous fatfuck and maintaining your body?
>is uncomfortable and restrictive
Stop wearing slim fit suits, moron.
>and can only be washed by a professional industrial technique"
Then wear an undershirt, dirty pig. So that you don't sweat into your suit coat like a fat pig. You wash your undershirt and shirt, and keep the suit coat clean.

And you don't need to wear a full on matching suit everyday, retard. You can mix and mach the colors and patterns by combining different odd trousers and suit jackets. You can also get them in fabrics that are suitable for your climate and season, like wool for winter, cotton and linen for summer, polyester if you're a cheap fuck who doesn't want to spend much money.

>>18503950
>everything is muh subjective
How about you kys, kike?

>>18504113
>muh restrictive
Again this meme from retards who have never worn a suit in their life. For one, stop wearing modern style slim fit suits. And two, don't be an unfit fatfuck.

>>18503930 (OP)
where do I get a suit for $500? I need one for funerals

>>18504224
You don't need to buy a full set of suit. Just buy the pieces individually. Get a pair of black odd trousers (preferably pleated, not the modern slim fit slop), a white dress shirt, a black suit jacket/blazer, and a tie. Will be much cheaper.
The only thing is make sure the fabrics of the jacket and trousers have a similar shade, texture and pattern, since you need it for a formal event.

a proper fitting suit in a nice fabric practically feels like wearing pyjamas. the most restrictive thing about it is the collar on the shirt, a lot of people aren't accustomed to the sensation of actually buttoning up a collar, but that just a matter of getting used to it.

>>18503947
You're giving off poorfag vibes though

>>18504257
This is why Americans need school uniforms. Most of this resistance against suits and even button up shirts comes from Americans, because they're used to dressing like slobs right from childhood, since American schools don't have uniforms or even dress code. You don't see this kind of bitching from Asians, Europeans, or hell, even Africans.

Wearing school uniforms will not only get them used to wearing dress shirts, trousers and suits, but also frees them from the pressure and distraction of looking "fashionable" at such a young age and prevent them from getting indoctrinated and groomed by fashion and cosmetics corporations right from childhood.

I always run out and buy one a few days before I need it and then regret not being able to have it tailored before the event

>>18504293
That’s not why. Boomers wore suits everyday of their working lives and they wore bell bottoms to school. Suits just arent part of the working uniform anymore ever since tech became the gold standard job to make money.

completely triggered /fa/ lmao

>costs $500
I'm not a security guard though?

>>18503930 (OP)
>costs $500
Suits come in all price ranges, you can get a good suit for $5 at a thrift store, you can get a bad suit for $5000, and everything inbetween
>needs to be adjusted
not necessarily, most ready to wear suits are made to fit the average person pretty well
>you'll be a different size next year
have you tried controlling your diet? most people can fit into the same size clothes their entire adult life
>uncomfortable and restrictive
you can't raise your arms above your head, but what do you need to do that for? you're not playing tennis, you're just walking about, get over it
>washed by professional industrial techniques
You can put a suit in the washing machine, just use the wool setting and don't agitate it too much, if you're really worried you can handwash it. This is not exclusive to suits but is true of wool in general. You can machine wash suits that aren't wool.

But here are your options
You can put up with all that and look good, or you can look like a slob, but alteast it's easier right?

>>18504293
I live in the UK and all the schools around here require a suit and tie uniform, but it has made no impact on fashion amongst adults
Pretty much every school kid doesn't think twice about his uniform, it's just a uniform, they never once pay attention to the aesthetics of it. And since it's a uniform, they have no choice in the aesthetics of it, meaning they cannot learn any fashion taste surrounding suits.

The reason suits died is a multitude of reasons
>stretchy fabrics
modern stretchy fabrics allowed clothes to be made in simpler ways, the t-shirt is possible only with stretch fabrics, non stretch fabrics require a button up mechanism
>washing machines
Clothes can be easily washed now, meaning it's no longer necessary to have undershirts.
>central heating
houses are warmer, we don't need to wear heavy clothing indoors anymore
>fatter people
people are fatter now, they don't get cold as easily anymore so they don't need heavy clothing
>cars
people don't need to spend time walking outside anymore, they are inside a warm car so they don't need protection against the elements
>casualisation of society
formalities and other rigid structures have vanished, nobody is expected to have a buttoned up appearance anymore
This goes hand in hand with the hippie revolt against that same culture, deliberately pushing away from the suit.
>modern innovations
zippers are cheaper than ever and have replaced buttons almost everywhere
foam has replaced leather has a comfortable medium for shoes
smooth clean roads have eliminated the need for walking canes

>>18503930 (OP)
>because you'll be a different size and shape next year when you need it again

thats a you problem lmao

>>18503950
>It's literally an outfit of cringe and poverty, while actual businesspeople in silicon valley and New York are wearing casual outfits and technical materials to work.
The tech CEOs depend on investments from businessmen who wear suits. Once the money stops flowing, the layoffs start, because most of those companies are incapable of turning a profit. But they wear t-shirts so I guess everything is forgiven.

>>18504212
>>18504211
>stop wearing slim fit suits
LOL, you just outed yourself as a turbolarper. You know everyone thinks you look fucking autistic right?

>>18504211
>>18504212
You, like everyone who posts the same exact thing once a week on /fa/ and who knows where else, should post a picture of yourself wearing one of your finely tailored suits, better yet if with your arms raised in front of you at a slight angle.

>>18504361
Except it doesn't actually look good. You don't look like the guy in your picture, you look like this
>>18504524

>>18504228
>a pair of black odd trousers
got em
>white dress shirt
can't find a single one thick enough to not be transparent, my nipples or undershirts are always visible
>a black suit jacket/blazer
this is the hard part because they're so damn expensive and the few I tried from the thrift store weren't slim enough for my skinny body

>>18503930 (OP)
>can only wear it once because you'll be a different size and shape next year
dont get fat, idiot

>>18504524
>sleeves reaching beyond the wrist
>hem way below the hips
>drooping shoulder seams
>Pants too long and probably sagging
Everything that could go wrong with a suit fitting has gone wrong in that photo. I said wear regular fitting non-slim suits, not an ill-fitting suit clearly meant for someone bigger than him. You do realize slim fit is not the same as well-fitting, right? How are you on a fashion board and don't understand the difference between well-fitting and oversized clothes?

>can't afford a suit
>make this stupid fucking thread
I don't wear suits, but holy shit you're coping hard, OP.

>>18504627
Or don't lose weight if you're already fat. Or don't lift weights, unless you perfectly calculate how frequently to lift without gaining or losing any progress.

>>18504652
Post a photo of yourself in a suit. You can blur your face.
>>18504656
I have 4 fucking suits and I need to go a wedding in 10 days and have to buy another one which is making me really mad

>>18504524
Not wearing slim fit doesn’t mean you have to wear loose fit. Well tailored suit pants will fit basically like straight leg pants, not quite slim but not loose.

>>18504658
>I have 4 fucking suits and I need to go a wedding in 10 days and have to buy another one which is making me really mad
there will come a time in your life when you start showing up to these stupid things in a tshirt and jeans so they stop inviting you. It's better on the other side, brother.

>>18504376
If it’s true for suits it’s true for all clothes

>>18504658
I have a wedding in 3 days and still haven’t bought a suit for it.

Just how shitty are Jos. A Banks and Men’s Wearhouse?

>>18504662
No, it's only true for suits because they're made of non-stretchy material and not looking like an autistic Redditor depends entirely on having a perfect fit. Modern garments fit everyone despite only coming in 3 non-alterable sizes because they're infinitely more forgiving to variation in size and build

>body fedora
FAT

>>18504692
buy in deep discount. no different from your typical mallshit

the fits are for boomers

How much should a decent full suit cost? I’ve seen half decent blazers and sport coats selling for $600. I just bought cheap budget suit for a l wedding and it cost me $400 not including belt and shoes.

>>18504982
$400-500 for basic wool suits sounds about right

don't get polyester or rayon

>>18504978
Why do those mall stores have only boomer looking suits? Why don't they just get ones that look trendy?

>>18505015
>Boomer looking
2010 slim look is boomer looking? What even is trendy these days?

>>18505021
I don't know, I think nothin

>>18503930 (OP)
this nigga's sleeves are too short btw
also, just do free immigration paperwork for a good korean tailor and you'll get cheap high qual suit alterations for life.

>>18504664
It's over bro. You need to get it tailored, which always takes a few days.

>>18505321
Modern suits are for retarded subhumans. Slim fit suits and their consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
>>18504978
>fits are for boomers
As opposed to what, faggot? Your gay ass slim fit suits that fit like skinny jeans and denim jacket?

>>18505363
>seething

>>18505363
Why haven't you posted a picture of yourself wearing one of your perfect fitting and perfectly comfortable suits?
It would be THE way to prove your point that suits can look good and be comfortable in this day and age.

>>18505387
I'm not going to doxx myself on this glownigger website.

Alright

>>18504692
Jos A. Banks tries, but it's pretend. Men's Wearhouse, fucking forget it.

>>18505393
Now tell the class how posting a photo with your face blocked out would somehow doxx you.

>>18505393
You can reasonably post a picture of yourself without showing your face and in a place that's not recognizable, such as in front of a plain wall, or in a city so big that even if recognized wouldn't offer any amount of identifying information, or you can even remove the background from the picture entirely using Ps or some AI, I'm sure there's something quick and easy to do it.
You have plenty of ways to post a picture displaying your suit(s) without doxing yourself.

>>18503930 (OP)
>looks good
>feels good
>inexpensive
What's OP's problem?

>>18505462
He is too much of a pussy to wear a suit, stand out and assert dominance.

>>18505387
Get mogged.

>>18505393
Fakest excuse I've ever heard bro. Next you'll say your phone camera broke

>>18503930 (OP)
>you can only wear it once because you'll be a different size and shape next year when you need it again
oh no
he fell for the slim cut meme

>>18505471
When all you can post is vintage photos, you just prove the point that suits don't look good anymore. Nobody can look like that now because the way you look is entirely context dependent. That context is gone.

Like, these guys were cool in their time and it's a cool picture but you'd look like an absolute clown if you wore a zoot suit today. That's basically how you look with your suit too.

>>18505496
I post vintage photos because they have classic fitting. I hate modern slim fit suits because they're gay and fit like shit. If you're going to get a suit, get them in classic style, from before the slim fit era that started after they were popularized by Daniel Craig in the new Bond movies. Get them in Pierce Brosnan style instead. Not baggy, nor slim. They fit just close enough to still leave some room for movement and a clean uncreased drape.

>>18505502
Yeah but you're missing my point. You will look stupid if you wear that today, no different from if you wore a zoot suit today. Imagine showing up to a wedding in a different cut of suit as everyone else. They would think you look like an autistic slob. And the only point of wearing a suit in 2025 is for social conformity at weddings and shit like that so that completely defeats the purpose

>>18505515
nta but the zoot suit looked ridiculous even in the time it was worn and people were vocal about it. Regular suits from the time would still look good at any function today.

The zoot suit was the niggerdress of the time, similar to modern saggy pants and snap-backs. Both look ridiculous in any era and you should never dress like a nigger to begin with

>>18505515
Only idiots will think that's slobby. Like I said, classic fit is neither baggy nor skintight. It follows your body's contours while still leaving room for movement and drape. So it is neither clinging to your body, nor look like you're swimming in your clothes. That's what well-fitting is. And people can tell instinctively when something is well-fitting and made specifically for you, even if they can't exactly put their finger on why.

It's also why people hate suits these days and think they're uncomfortable, because slim fit suits fit like shit and ARE uncomfortable. They look like you're wearing clothes that are a size too small for you, like you're wearing a smaller guy's suit. Meanwhile, classic fitting suits are as comfortable as wearing a lightweight sweatpants and a hoodie.

>>18505515
Only idiots will think picrel is slobby. Like I said, classic fit is neither baggy nor skintight. It follows your body's contours while still leaving room for movement and drape. So it is neither clinging to your body, nor look like you're swimming in your clothes. That's what well-fitting is. And people can tell instinctively when something is well-fitting and made specifically for you, even if they can't exactly put their finger on why.

It's also why people hate suits these days and think they're uncomfortable, because slim fit suits fit like shit and ARE uncomfortable. They look like you're wearing clothes that are a size too small for you, like you're wearing a smaller guy's suit. Meanwhile, classic fitting suits are as comfortable as wearing a lightweight sweatpants and a hoodie.

>>18505473
Reviewbrah is cool, but he looks anachronistic.
If anything, that picture is testament to the fact that you can be cool even while wearing something out of another era if you feel comfortable in it, but certainly not that a suit can look good in 2025.

>>18505526
>that's what well fitting is
Notice how in all the pictures you posted nobody has their arms at an angle higher than some 10°, and in this picture the models have their elbows against their bodies even when doing things where the elbows would normally flare out more.
>slim fit suits are the reason why people these days think suits are uncomfortable
Slim fit suits are barely more uncomfortable than wider suits provided the sizing is right.
>classic fitting suits are as comfortable as wearing light sweatpants and a hoodie
Either you've never worn a suit or you've never worn light sweatpants and a hoodie.
Do a squat in a suit, pick up something heavy and place it on a table, go for a light jog, do a fucking handstand, walk up a few flights of stairs.
The way to prove me wrong and shut me up would be to post a picture of yourself in a well fitting suit, showing that even if you raise your arms a bit the shape of the jacket doesn't change significantly nor does it flare out at the bottom.
If the reason you believe this comedy you're purporting is that you own one or more suits that are decent but not quite up to the comfort level you've read about on enthusiasts' forums, and you believe you could just go to your local tailor to have a nice suit mtm in a classic cut which feels as comfortable as joggers and a hoodie, be aware that it's a fantasy.
Suits have many good points, but they're not nearly as comfortable as half decent techwear.

>>18505637
If you're going to squat or raise your arms in a suit then you are supposed to open the buttons of your jacket. And high rise pleated trousers are as comfortable as joggers.
>techwear
They're plastic pants. No need to use any marketing buzzwords.

Besides, a suit is for regular people, not manual laborers and workers. They are not work clothes. You wear them for formal or casual events that don't require any physically strenuous work.

If you want a suit jacket that's more flexible, then get a sports jacket or a blazer. They are usually are unlined and come without any shoulder padding. Wear a blazer or a sports coat with your regular button up shirts and slacks for everyday use. Nothing wrong with it. That's how most people wore their suits to begin with. Get cotton and linen ones for hotter climates and seasons. They're also easier to maintain and wash compared to wool suit jackets.

>>18505661
>if you're going to move around you'd open the jacket
I agree, now do it and then post a picture of yourself in a well fitting suit, showing that even if you raise your arms a bit the shape of the jacket doesn't change significantly nor does it flare out at the bottom.
>you wouldn't use a suit for any physically strenuous activities
I agree, you might use light sweatpants and a hoodie for it.
>techwear means made of plastic
How can you be so autistic about suits without even owning a good one and then think every synthetic fabric is the same?
>sports jackets and blazers are usually unlined and come without shoulder padding
Blazers are mostly always lined, and nowadays it's easy to find suit jackets with unpadded shoulders as well.
Plus the reason a suit jacket looks like a suit jacket is it's lined and it has structure, if you don't care about it you might as well wear an overshirt.
>get this or that
I believe I own 10 suits, a few odd jackets and a blazer in everything from wool to wool blends to linen.
You're repeating things you read online without having any experience about the topic.

>>18505728
Again, why do you care if a suit bends and flares if you raise your arms? Do you want it to stay stiff like cardboard all the time? Those people in the photos aren't raising their arms because you're not meant to and they don't have to. Padded suits are for formal wear and for people who don't do pleb things like commute in public transportation or do physical labor. If you're one of those plebs, then wear suits jackets without shoulder pads. And yes, blazers have lining, and they'll hold their structure enough to look good for everyday use. Regular sports coats will also come with lining. The summer ones are usually unlined.

>>18505620
Dude, reviewbrah does not look cool, he looks fucking autistic. To the extent that he gets away with it, it's just because people assume it's ironic

>>18504987
All they had was polyester suits. This was a “menswear store” btw.

>>18505744
I actually raise my arms all the time throughout the day to stretch. I can't imagine being locked in 1/5 range of motion all day like a yoked beast of burden or a chaingang slave. It's funny that you mention "laborers" as ones who need to move around, because having even less freedom of movement than a laborer makes you even more subhuman than one.

>>18505796
lol ok man

>>18505515
>You will look stupid if you wear that today
Have you seen how the modern person dresses? They look stupid so how can wearing nice clothes make you look stupider than that.

>>18505920
Because looking stupid is relative to what society seems to look stupid. Is it your first day on Earth?

>>18505942
Fuck (((society))). Nothing but negrofied goy cattle.

>>18505999
I agree, but this supports my point that they probably all think you look autistic as fuck

>>18506065
I don't think there's any real doubt.

Most of the benefits of wearing a suit can be achieved by wearing a well fitting collared shirt

>>18506065
I don't care about what a bunch of negrified NPC cattle who are degenerate enough to dress like picrel in public think. The lion doesn't concern himself with the opinions of sheep.

>>18506144
A suit jacket has pockets, especially inside, and it's structured. So it gives you a much more crisp look than a button shirt. Also, it's just a jacket. Why are people so afraid of a jacket? Remove the jacket and you're left with just regular button up shirt and trousers.

This is why people should be used to wearing button up shirts and trousers, and tucking their shirts in. That should be a basic requirement for any man at any public places. Once you've got that down, a suit jacket wouldn't feel all that "muh dressy".

And it doesn't always have to be a black or navy blue jacket. Suit jackets, blazers and sports coats come in every color and pattern under the sun. Stop putting suits on a pedestal. Just treat them as a tool to get a structured and crisp look and you would feel fine wearing them.

>>18505744
The jacket doesn't only flare out, it restricts my movement way more than a hoodie.
It's not so much about shoulder pads as it is about the shape of the armhole and arm.
Post a picture and prove your point anon.
>>18505790
>reviewbrah doesn't look cool
You wish you were half as cool and a tenth as radical as reviewbrah.
>>18506203
>people should dress like this
We're lucky we were born in a day and age where people can dress however they please, even in most offices.

>>18505620
He says he intentionally chooses to wear older suit cuts simply because he likes them. He isn't trying to make any fashion statements.

>>18506203
The blazer needs to be reinvented. It needs to be simplified such as making shawl neck lapels more common and buttons replaced with zippers.

>>18506214
Some have already come up with a zippered blazer. But nothing wrong with buttons. They give you much more flexibility and modularity. You can keep any number of them open or closed depending upon your need in both directions (top and bottom). With a zipper you're stuck with opening and closing them in only one direction.
That's also why I prefer to wear denim jackets instead of hoodies. You get a button closure in the front and on cuffs (not a lame elastic cuff that eventually blows out), multiple pockets to put all kinds of things in, and they're much more durable.
>>18506209
>We're lucky we were born in a day and age where people can dress however they please, even in most offices.
There's nothing good about dressing in degenerate athletic clothes everywhere. A society that doesn't have any sense of decorum, aesthetics and shame is doomed to fall apart.

This one even has zippered pockets.

>>18506223
Would be better if the zipper was hidden on the inside and didn’t go up into the lapels.

>>18506227
That's just a Nehru with zippers.

>>18506239
What do you think a suit jacket is with the lapels unfolded?

>>18504658
not that anon but here you go

>>18504535
Not him but a nice suit is super comfy. I have this one in wool silk cashmere blend half lining and a nice drapey fit it’s like wearing a pijama
Keeping your size should not be a problem I’m 34 and it’s no deal

>>18506348
Are those your sister's shoes? Looking really zesty.

>>18506223
>>18506214
If you ask me, the biggest problem with the blazer isn't the buttons, it's the fact that it doesn't stretch. Give me a garment that looks like a slim cut blazer but it's secretly made of stretchy polyester, mass produce it in just 3 sizes and sell it for $50, and you'll have solved most of the issues with it.

>>18506226
Priest
>>18506227
Indian

>>18506243
Where is this from

>>18506348
Being brown goes a long way in making you not look autistic in this. It lends a sort of serious Caribbean legitimacy to whatever you wear. If a skinny white guy wore that exact outfit he'd look like reviewbrah
>>18506243
This disproves in a shocking way. Maybe it's because this jacket looks somehow academic rather than business? I don't think you could dress like this to a wedding though, where do you wear this outfit?

>>18506363
Why do you need fucking stretch in your clothes? Why do people these days like wearing skintight clothes instead of roomy clothes that let them move around and breathe freely in them? People were doing fine without stretch in their fabrics for thousands of years until the early 2010s when skintight skinny jeans became trendy.

None of these men were crying about the lack of stretch in their suits, because they weren't wearing gay slim fit suits, they weren't fat, and had good posture.
https://youtu.be/ePH--widhXk?t=5

>>18506366
this is from me. Its a picture of me

>>18506352
Yes I really do like the androginity and feminine touch of the boots!
>>18506371
You do have a good point here because really lots of people forget that some outfits don’t work with some types or create a different feeling. A skinny white guy ln the other hand can pull of the Ysl rockstar look

Here is a mix and match look. I think when choosing your suits you can have certain combinations in mind and get so many outfits out of it

>>18506377
Styles and trends change, and skinny/slimfit will too.
What an utterly infantile thing to cry about.

>>18506385
I'd ditch the purse with Japanese girl toys hanging off it.

>>18505620
>Reviewbrah is cool
Not by any real definition of the word, no he isn't.

>>18506203
My personal theory is that people avoid menswear like this because
1) it’s expensive
2) there are few brick and mortar options so they never get to go and peruse and learn and feel what works
3) they go to men’s wearhouse or Jos. A Banks or some other shitty store and they leave looking like slobs in a loose fitting outfit made of plastic that costs too much for even it’s relatively cheap price and so they avoid it
I didn’t start to appreciate traditional menswear until I was making some money and started shopping at a boutique near me that carried high quality clothing made of natural fibers

>>18506408
Again, the lion does not concern himself with the opinions of negrified sheep. Imagine taking the opinions of these Untermensch seriously.

>>18506412
Slim fit, low rise, and plastic adulteration in fabrics really ruined men's clothing during the past 15 years. Nothing really fits properly now. Every guy on the street looks as if he's wearing his younger brother's clothes, or a boy wearing his dad's clothes that are too big for him.

>>18506430
It’s even worse than that because when you realize it and try to do something different you end up going loose fit, oversized, or boomer tailoring on everything. Not to mention most people are very fat now. So very fat people are wearing slim fit suits tailored too loose and made of polyester. I mean really think about that for a second.

>>18506384
No wear is the jacket from

>>18506469
I found it on eBay

>>18503930 (OP)
The problem with modern suits, apart from gay fit and shitty materials, is that it's missing a piece, a waistcoat to complete the look.

>>18506572
Modern fatties will get poached in their own sweat if they wear a suit jacket AND a waistcoat.

>>18506223
>old = good, new = bad
>society's degenerate and indecorous
>freedom's bad
>>18506243
Thanks, the shoulders are a tad too wide and the armholes go so low that the top half on your left is being pulled even with that very slight flaring of your left elbow.
It doesn't look bad, but it doesn't make it look like a suit jacket is as comfortable as a hoodie.
>>18506348
>it's like wearing a pajama
What about when you raise your arms in front of you at a slight angle?

>>18506408
>competent
>successful
>confident
>does what he likes
>doesn't give a shit if others don't like it
Reviewbrah is cool.
>>18506414
Your posts read more and more like a parody by the day.

How much should a half-decent wool blazer cost? I’ve seen absolute crap selling for $500-$750.

>>18503930 (OP)
>you can only wear it once because you'll be a different size and shape next year when you need it again
If you're buying a tailored suit it's because you are going to wear it regularly, thus your body won't be massively changing between wears. You don't need a tailored suit.

>>18506650
3-400USD.
A good one around 5-600USD, and a great one around 1-1.2kUSD.

>>18506661
Yeah, not to mention, you can just get your suit altered by your tailor if you do become fat, since there's like 2 inches of seam allowance in them. But if your weight fluctuates drastically year by year, then you need to stop being a gluttonous pig and eat in small and fixed portion sizes everyday.

>>18506668
What is the difference between decent good and great?

>>18506607
Here is a pic raised arm moving freely and comfy. I had this blazer made bespoke with high armholes

>>18506704
Half decent is half decent, fused or half canvas in somewhat fine wool and a nice shape.
Good is full canvas and the handiwork is nicer, if there's a pattern on the fabric the collar and pocket flaps are aligned so that the patter continues smoothly, the stitching is even, the buttons are horn/corozo/MOP, this sort of thing.
Great is well made to measure with finer materials, like very fine wool, a wool silk blend or such.

Is it ever okay to mix and match suit separates? I’ve seen guys wear one color of what appears to be suit pants with another color of a blazer but never one color suit pants with another color suit jacket.

I'm sad that "suits" are the de facto "formal" attire for men. They're so boring and unoriginal. There are so many fun and interesting formal dresses and clothing for women but with dudes it's just

>Suit and tie or some variation.

>>18503930 (OP)
the nail in the coffin is not being able to just put all the clothes in the washer.

For anyone saying "just don't get fat" what should you do if you're already fat but working out? Just don't wear a suit until you're at your goal weight?

>>18503930 (OP)
>you'll be a different size and shape next year
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>18507424
Because dressing flamboyantly is for women and homosexuals. Men wore suits to look professional and dignified.

>>18507479
>Just don't wear a suit until you're at your goal weight?
Yes? What's the point in buying a suit when you're going to get thinner a few months later and the suit will end up being way too big for you? Why waste money?

Or you could just buy a blazer and wear it with your existing slacks/chinos and button up shirts and polos. Get used to wearing a suit style jacket and make people used to seeing you in something like that. Then start wearing full on suits once you've reached your goal weight.

>>18503950
Heh, “body fedoras”. Nice one.

>>18503930 (OP)
Tiny jacket man

>>18507518
Ok what if I'm skinny and already own a suit but I want to start lifting

>>18507515
Agreed why they wore them it's just very "plain". It's not even about being flamboyant I just wish there were more socially acceptable "formal" attire for men

>post obvious ragebait
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>>18503930 (OP)
Nigga you can hand wash a suit jacket easily. Most trousers will survive a wash on the lowest delicate setting.
>>18504228
Don't do this, if there's one thing that doesn't mix, it's two different blacks.
>>18504224
Check out Men's Wearhouse. Often suits can be found on sale on their site for like under $200.

>>18506363
Congrats, there's something for you. It's called the XSuit. It's like $600, made like something you'd get on Shein, and it's made of a proprietary "wool blend" that's probably 85% or more stretchy polyester or nylon.

>>18507618
Because men handed over the right to dress up to women (and now homosexuals and trannies). The western elites decided suits were the only clothes they will wear and allow other men to wear for formal events.

But you can wear formal attire of different cultures. Suits are the formal men's wear of modern western countries. You can start wearing traditional European formal clothes from before the colonial era. Hold parties with a dress code of only those kind of clothes. Make it popular. Be the change you want to see.

>>18507607
Your suit will have seam allowance of 2-2.5 inches. You can get it altered if you don't bulk up too much. But if you get too big, then you will have to buy a new suit. Normal healthy people don't fluctuate in weight too much after becoming adults. Maintain your body at a healthy weight. It's not hard. Just don't be a gluttonous pig and exercise a few days a week if you live a sedentary life.

>>18507761
I distrust anything with a name such "great male renunciation" it's very belittling, it is not a suitable name at all, it used charged language.

The comment about the Enlightenment is true, but to say that the change in fashion tastes is a renunciation is an incredibly biased way to view it.
Prior to the Enlightenment, men behaved as barbarians, dressing in gaudy and expensive clothes to show off their wealth, for this is what matters to a savage.

The Enlightenment was a time of civilising thought, where men realized that extravagant displays of wealthy are gaudy, ugly even, they make you appear to be a moron in the same way that a man driving a gold Lamborghini in a Louis Vuitton tracksuit appears wealthy but stupid. You do not expect such a person to be capable of any intelligent conversation at all.
When men began to value intelligence and reason, they began to value more muted styles of fashion that are clean and refined looking, the look of an intelligent person.

Everything about the suit, from its origins to today, is about order and discipline. Your shoes must be polished, your shirt must be clean, your suit must be without wrinkles, you must be sharp and proper. It is a visual represenation of the state of your mind.
The man who wears gold embroidered frilly silk coats thinks of nothing but pleasure.
The man who wears a sleek dark suit thinks ordered thoughts.

>>18507817
You see the same change in architecture.
Gone are the excessive gold trimmed flowery mouldings of the baroque, the statues are removed, everything excess is stripped away.
It is not a backwards step, it is a forwards one.
A house covered in gold, just as the clothing, is gaudy, and stupid.
This building is simple, orderly, it draws attention not to its cost but to its design, it shows appreciation of proportion, it is tasteful.
You expect it to be a library, a court of law, a house of government, some place where reason dominates and sensible ideas are put forth.

>>18507820
And I make the same argument against the sprezzatura fags who seem to believe that a good suit is one that boasts of wealth.
These men do not appear intelligent, they appear full of themselves, infatuated with themselves, their thoughts are filled with ideas about what rare silk their hankerchief is made of, whether anyone notices that their glasses are geniune tortoise shell or not, whether anyone will appreciate the fabric of their cloth for it is nothing you can buy off the rack but cost them an arm and a leg.

>>18507817
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>>18507822
*tips fedora*
try to kys asap

>>18507822
An actual good suit is austere, not because it is meekish and deprived, but because walking around like a peacock is for animals and not man.
This mans suit may have been just as expensive as the prior examples but that is not important, what is important is that that is not the focus of it. Its cost is completely secondary to its design, which is sharp and orderly. You expect this man to be a professor or some kind of academic, he appears thoughtful. This is what a suit should do, this is what it is designed to do. Anything else is an aberration and return to barbarism.

>>18507820
Clothing and architecture are two completely different things. All those designs and statues on buildings weren't "excessive decorations" put there just for the sake of it. They are motifs, symbols and allegories of values and beliefs of a particular culture, used to keep people connected to their ancestors' philosophy, traditions and values. The Statue of Liberty isn't just a statue of some random woman waving a torch. She is the personification of the idea of freedom and liberty.

That's what retarded """enlightenment""" and postmodernist kikes didn't understand, or understood full well and precisely why they got rid of any sign of classical culture and values so that they can replace them with a blank slate that they can write on it whatever they please, in order to socially engineer people after uprooting them from their culture and civilization.

>It is not a backwards step, it is a forwards one.
Yeah, forward towards some kind of bullshit idea of "muh progress".

>>18504293
School uniforms are still uncomfortable
Just bring back corporal punishment for niggers that misbehave
Mandate them for women however

>>18507872
Again, school uniforms, like any modern clothing, are uncomfortable because they are in degenerate slim fit.

>>18507820
>muh cost
>muh design, proportions
>doesn't understand that statues, floral and geometric designs and symbols have their own design language and mathematical proportions
Uncultured, uncivilized materialistic NPCs. It costs more because it takes more effort, skill, and artistic vision to make something beautiful and meaningful. The Mona Lisa doesn't cost millions because its canvas and its paints costed millions to manufacture. The cost isn't about the material and wages themselves. A monkey (or a machine) can build that thing with some basic blue prints. But it takes a human with a soul to fill it with art that says something meaningful about the building, its purpose and what it represents to its people beyond its base utility.

>>18507824
I know you're clueless by the photo you post because nowadays three pieces and a watch chain is "peacocking."