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Apparently Bois Imperial has been reformulated and now has garbage performance. Can anyone confirm?

I have two other Xerjoff and love them. Blind bought pic related like a RETARD and it's fucking disgusting. like seriously. it's DISGUSTING

>>18504650
Yes, literally unusable. The 48 hours of nose-destroying strength has been cut down to a mere 36 hours, and the last 12 hours are merely slightly annoying, not actively nose-destroying .
This is unacceptable, I need to smell like the same blue cheese and wood accord for 12 more hours

>>18504577
Yeah, I have a sample of Caron PUH. I don’t find it powdery or dated (though perhaps more mature) but I also think Le Male does the lavender and vanilla profile better. In Le Male both notes are quite clearly defined, with the lavender being crisp and aromatic, and the vanilla being soft and light. In the Caron both notes are much heavier and creamier as they are the core of the fragrance. The lavender has a sleepy aromatherapy sort of feel which is blurred into the vanilla. If Le Male is like holding a lavender flower next to a vanilla pod, PUH is like powdering them together into a mixture. I suggest sampling PUH because it’s an important fragrance to know but I barely ever wear it.

Bleu de Chanel or YSL Myself for an everyday, all year around frag?

>>18504742
Myslf

>>18504731
>powdering them together into a mixture
Sounds like I wouldn't like it but I might sample it out of curiosity
Thanks

>>18504625
True to it's name. It's an uplifting fragrance. I love it when I first smelled it. Simple yet unforgettable.

>>18504742
Myslf because it doesn't smell like a perfume, it smells like clean laundry.

>>18504700
The blue cheese is addicting. BI is a strange fragrance but one you can't help but keep coming back to.

>>18504731
Caron reminds me of my grandparents home. Maybe they had some dried lavender there.

Remarkable People is an underrated ELDO. Unique and long-lasting scent that's pretty cheap at discounters. What's not to like. Recommended.

>>18504629 (OP)
I bought this like 10 years ago, while it does smell good, I'm looking to up my scent game for a wedding coming up.
What do you /fa/gs recommend?

>>18504742
>pic
From my experience most girls seem to love YSL frags in general, whether it's Y, La Nuit and flankers or MYSLF, all frags from the brand are attractive to women in general
People say sauvage but it has a bad reputation now

>>18504742
I like BdC more than Myslf, but I find the YSL one more easy to wear as a dumb reach (and can be found at discounters).
Then again, I live in a warm shithole, so I rank them BdC Edt (like the citrus more here) > YSL Myslf EdP > BdC Parfum (night only). All the others are irrelevant, and the Myslf L'Absolu is highway robbery. I find it even less distinct from the EdP than the BdC flankers among themselves.

>>18504683
lol jerkoff

>>18504731
>I don’t find it powdery or dated
this
>Le Male does the lavender and vanilla profile better
(probably hot take but) also this

>>18504742
neither

>>18504805
a very good frag indeed but
>long-lasting
x doubt

>SOTD: PdE Le Cri
awesome frag, aldehyde+rose+musk, high quality, unisex, good for all seasons and most occasions

>>18504807
L'eau Bleue d'Issey (rare) or Clinique Happy

>>18504807
ELDO Remarkable People is the perfect wedding frag

>>18504821
>le cri
nice gateway fag scent

Why does my fruity and citrus frags do not project in the cold, am I anosmic or is this normal?

Perfumer Anon. I just spent 1k on two Roja frags and they genuinely feel like clones with some makeup. I got isola blu and apex, one smells like tdh and the other like old cosmair polo green. I'm not certain if you lurk around here or if you only check in occasionally but if you're around I would be grateful to hear if they’re the same frags but cloned or something

Also I’ve been looking around at summer frags and the burnt out freshie market. Everything is the same goyslop with a new coat of paint nowadays, sorta like isola blu, can you rec some good original freshies, also how do you think the market can be fixed since companies putting out such garbage that is lacking any creativity, Is it the consumers fault?

I’d also like to know what perfumers are real and which ones are frauds, I keep hearing nicolai and Roja dove don’t really perfume their own creations. If this is true I'm going to pay a homeless muslim to pour acid in Roja's face for his transgressions

>>18504852
Why do I feel like you're Teddy Haugen

>>18504629 (OP)
Traded my Valentino Green Stravaganza for a basically full Dior Eau Sauvage. Good trade? Feels like an awesome upgrade to me.

>>18504852
>I just spent 1k on two Roja frags

>>18504847
Too cold for the molecules to evaporate so just sits close to the skin.

reminder

fragrances with sentences for names are cringe

>>18504907
Notice how L'Eau d'Issey Pour Homme isn't listed

as someone who is just getting into fragrances, why do people hate Tom Ford and love Creed?

I went to test multiple fragrances the other day and Creed Aventus in particular smells like any cheap cologne from the flea market, After the first two hours I could smell a minor difference but its not worth the 400 dollar price tag.
Meanwhile Tom Ford fragrances seem to make a statement and have personality, uniqueness. To me it makes the fragrance worth it and I actually bought some fucking fabulous the other day even though the name sucks balls it smells great.

>>18504862
Teddy is a shitlib who blames the alt right manosphere for the focus on beastmode fragrances. He wouldnt post here. He also just posted recently saying roja is overhyped and you pay for the brand not the fragrance.

>>18504907
Note LV Imagination, Angel's Share, and DH Sport are not listed

Also, I don't want any Creed lovers to get me wrong, Aventus IS the greatest in the niche it fills and no flea market cologne or cloned fragrance will beat it. BUT for people to flock to this one fragrance with one specific scent and acting as if it's the best fragrance of all is stupid.

>>18504965
Tom Ford stopped giving free shit to YouTube, Instagram, and Tiktok influencers so they quickly become uncool and overrated. Coincidence?

>>18504972
so you say the lack of Tom Ford fans is due to them not paying their marketers enough? That could be a plausible theory.

>>18504965
I don’t think that’s a consensus opinion. Tom Ford makes good original scents and good inspired scents. People balk at the price and many (not all) TF fragrances are linear and one dimensional, but they still smell fantastic and many are worth the cost. Plus the presentation is very nice, I got a bottle of Grey Vetiver for cheap, the performance is dick so I never use it but it looks nice as a decor piece on my bathroom counter. As for Creed I haven’t smelled anything besides Aventus, which I do like, but there has been a lot of controversy with Creed since they were acquired by blackrock. Shitty reformulations, as well as the fact that the Creed brothers had ghost perfumers they were taking credit from. Not to mention the bogus history

>>18504975
what is your favorite fragrance?

>>18504965
i like both

>>18504977
Uhh, I guess Knize Ten, but Yatagan is a very close second.

>>18504907
This is like the top selling perfume on Walmart lol

For me? It's Tressa

>>18504986
So what were their reactions

>>18504998
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKYAZBYsTBQ

>>18505024
So you didn't watch it either?

What do you think of Jo Malone’s Oud & Bergamot? I tried it at the mall. It’s quite nice actually. Very tempted to get a bottle. But “EdC” doesn’t sound that appealing.

>>18504973
influencers won't shill you if you aren't giving them your frags for free

what do you guys think about the night
by Dominique Ropion?

>>18505053
To someone who is not used to Oud it literally smells like cat piss and sand.

>>18504629 (OP)
Coolest frag just by name?

“You or Someone Like You” has aura imo

>>18505090
>Sunrise On The Red Sand Dunes

>>18505090
Diptyque fragrance names are kino

What should I wear to attract the big titted Puerto Rican mid-30s milf truck at work?

>>18505155
Dior Sauvage

>>18504852
>I just spent 1k on two Roja frags
lol, lmao even

>>18505090
Babycat
Vanagloria
Quorum
Né Il Giorno Né L'Ora
Iron duke
Mousse illuminee
Rosenrot
The Ghost In The Shell
Cyber garden
Megamare
Rosae Mundi
Nudiflorum
De Profundis
Ierofante

>>18504968
>roja is overhyped and you pay for the brand not the fragrance.
wtf i love Teddy now?!

>>18505090
Rien

>>18505090
Terrible Teddy
Paradoxe
Alien
Sundowner
Memoirs Of A Trespasser
Pegasus

>>18504986
VIW is the most underrated Creed

What are some good freshies from Mancera?
>inb4 hating on Mancera and Montale to fit in

>>18504629 (OP)
Extremely High IQ perfume.

>>18504965
Creed is widely despised for being crude and dishonest. Tom Ford makes incomplete perfumes, as mentioned time after time after time after... in these threads.

>>18505040
Jo Malone is perfume for people who don't like perfume.

Why does /fa/ love it while reddit and the fragrance knowers hate it

Anyone tried Aesop stuff? I've really been liking some of their scents.

>>18505210
I really like their Hinoki and Cedarwood, any dupes?

how the fuck is aurafragrance so cheap

>>18505240
Wholesale and clearance, sometimes companies need to liquidate stock and it goes off to auction in bulk, then these places just put in a low bid and hope to win it. You can get all types of shit if you go direct to suppliers and manufacturers.

>>18504965
>>18504975
incomplete perfumery.

Which one mogs?

>>18505242
I’ve heard that a couple times but literally what does it mean. There’s a note missing?

>>18505243
Pic related makes the best woody scents. So if you want to smell masculine, Dior should be your first choice

>>18504965
Aventus smells like every flea market cologne, because they're all clones of Aventus. It's probably the most cloned men's frag of our time.

Reasons to hate Tom Ford:
>They make semi-clones of 10$ fragrances sometimes (Neroli Portofino, Beau de Jour)
>Overpriced
>Most of their good releases were in the 2000s

Reasons to hate Creed:
>They lie about their history
>They steal credit from perfumers and lie about who makes their fragrances
>They clone cheap fragrances sometimes (Original Santal)
>Overpriced
>They have unacceptable batch variation

Overall Creed is clearly more hatable

>>18505245
It's the difference between tom fordslop and guerlain masterpieces

>>18505248
Is Dior hateable too?

>>18505248
What is fragrance is Original Santal a clone of?

>>18505256
Montblanc Individuel

>>18505252
yes, they (re)formulated many of their classic frags to death (Eau Sauvage, Dior Homme, Fahrenheit, etc.) - see Guerlain for how it should have been done

>>18505248
>They clone cheap fragrances sometimes
see also "Original" "Vetiver", which is a clone of Mugler Cologne (with no vetiver ofc)

>>18505243
I used to sniff the cap of DHI to sleep.
I tested BDC in Sephora and sprayed other fragrance on top of it because it's weak.

>>18505245
Its basically what I (>>18504975) said about how TF fragrances are linear or one dimensional. They have a tendency to smell exactly the same from the first spray until the scent is gone, rather than evolving through the note pyramid. Worse yet, none of their fragrances (at least that I have encountered) are able to tell a story through the notes. Zoologist Squid, for example, starts out dark and aquatic and transforms into a warm sandalwood, which makes me imagine being out on a fishing boat in the atlantic at night, before coming to port and settling into a fire-warmed cabin. I’ve never had an experience like that with TF.

>>18505252
cuckdijian is a faggot

Brut.

For male fragrances its Dior, for women its Chanel

>>18505269
>Brut.
Nothing but the truth.

>>18505267
Why did he make sauvage eau forte look like cum

>>18505283
for arabs and for the gay community

>>18505284
but you repeat yourself

>>18505252
not as much, they just do the usual big conglomerate fuckery
though the revamping of the Dior Homme line in the last couple of years was a weird move

>>18505295
>release dior homme original
>never make any
>out of stock everywhere
fuck my gay maple syrup life

Bois Imperial, Terre D'Hermes, BDC EDP, Dior Sauvage, Dior Homme 2020 EDT, Guerlain Homme, H24 EDP - rate these

>>18505299
okay, good, meh, okay, okay, great, great

>>18505299
6/10, 8/10, 6/10, 7/10, 5/10, 6/10, 7/10

>>18505299
Theyre all 7-8/10. Good scents that are easy to wear with moderate to good performance. They arent 9s or 10s because their easiness lacks daringness and doesnt push boundaries or offer significant complexity. Dior Homme 2011 would be something in that vein that would be a 9 or 10 because the scent alone is so good.

>>18504629 (OP)
I like old spice. I want something more fancy to shower with but I am also on a budget. Any adv?

>>18504852
Unfortunately I’m not permitted to divulge any information pertaining specifically to the composition and chemical make up of certain fragrances.

Regarding fresh fragrances, I have to agree that recent trends have been relatively disappointing, considering that most popular fragrances in this niche have always been very strongly inspired by one another. It’s not always easy to breathe new life into certain categories that are as old as this one. On one hand because the consumer expects a certain DNA, and on the other because, at least financially speaking, there is no need to innovate. Merely changing a few aspects can net you a lot of money if the marketing is good. I myself have dealt with this issue on numerous occasions when fulfilling briefs. I personally think that the easiest way to go about changing the landscape of fresh, hesperidic fragrances is to start embracing new chemical processes by which citrus notes can be extended. I have personally been experimenting with introducing multiple Schiff bases to fresh fragrances, and have had great success, with Citral based Schiff bases lasting for circa 3 weeks on a blotter.
I think Acqua di Parma makes very safe but nice smelling fresh fragrances, I’d suggest Bergamotto di Calabria.

I’m not allowed to talk about this either.

How would you rank MYSLF and flankers among other "flagship" designer releases of the last decade (Dior Homme, BDC, Sauvage, Y, H24, TDH...)?

>>18505299
>Bois Imperial
7/10. Smells good but is too linear and simple, easy to get tired of. Strongest performance.
>Terre D'Hermes
9/10. Perfect update of masculine classics for the 21st Century.
>BDC EDP
6/10. Okay but too expensive for an NPC scent.
>Dior Sauvage
5/10. A little annoying.
>Dior Homme 2020 EDT
6/10. Kind of in the vein of Terre, but with less character.
>Guerlain Homme
6/10. It's okay, far from the best by Guerlain.
>H24 EDP
8/10. Cool unique DNA.

>>18505326
Probably the worst

>>18505352
Why?

I've only smelled H24 Herbes Vives, how does it compare to the EDP?

Pleasant whiffs surround me as i enjoy the great aromas of Axe blue lavender.

Btw guys theres a new formulation of old spice original deodorant that doesnt smell like paint thinner and actually smells like old spice, like the edt’s theyve made in the past but far less lemon. Im UK but Im sure it will hit everywhere eventually.

can't wait to receive my imperial bois

>>18505358
lol fag

>>18505354
All those listed brought something unique to the world when released.

>>18505371
Masculine florals may not be unique per se but they're definitely not popular in the age of blue scents, gourmands and tonka bombs

>>18505308
>I have personally been experimenting with introducing multiple Schiff bases to fresh fragrances, and have had great success, with Citral based Schiff bases lasting for circa 3 weeks on a blotter.
the bois imperial of citrus, just whaglt i needed

>>18505376
>the bois imperial of citrus
Bergamask

What are some fragrances like Aventus and Dior Sauvage EDT that women absolutely love

>>18505379
D&G The One, YSL Myself, YSL Y EDP, MMM Jazz Club, Armani SWY Intensely

>>18505383
>MMM Jazz Club
Never smelled that one. What does it smell like

>>18505386
Tobacco and rum with some vanilla. I get a really nice, sweet coconut from it on the drydown for some reason, too. Gives me a night lounge in the Caribbean vibe.

>>18505386
>What does it smell like
smells like salty milk and coins
(jk, it smells like slop)

>>18505396
Face it, all actually attractive fragrances are "slop" and the complex, niche stuff you like smells strange at best to most people

>dior homme original is only available in europe
??????????????????!

>>18505459
americans dislike powdery florals, they think they're "too perfumy". same for traditional french perfumery in general, you can't even buy Pour Monsieur EDT in US AFAIK

>>18505475
>Pour Monsieur EDT
Chanels? I live in Wisconsin and I got it off fragnet.

>>18505326
Overhated for sure. I wanted to pick from those everyday fragrances because I don't have the cash to get a fragrance for every season and occasion. It needed to be appropriate for the workplace but with a seductive edge and decent performance while not choking myself or anyone else out. Myslf EDP was the winner and I'm more than pleased.

>>18505355
edp is sweeter, thicker, heavier
edt is airier and the most metallic of the three

Thoughts on Bvlgari's gemme collection? Tygar, Kobraa, etc

>>18505263
DHI 2011 or 2025?

>got some random samples and a gift when I got my TDH
>Un Jardin Sur La Lagune
>gentleman society
>sauvage
>davidoff cool elixir
la lagune was meh, sauvage was ok, gentleman society was actually quite nice but cool elixir was a total letdown. I saw the packet and thought oh nice cool water. But no.
>rose oud
smells lke a fucking urinal cake.

So the main complaint against Tom Ford seems to be the somewhat linear progression of their fragrances. I actually prefer it that way, if I like a certain scent why would I want it to change? One notes work great for their purpose.

>>18505517
The dynamic nature of perfume allows for greater artistic expression. Its the difference between evoking an image and telling a story.

>>18505517
It's easier to get bored of a linear perfume

>>18505507
DHI wasn't changed, just reformulated

Which Guerlain frags for men are worth trying? Looking for something masculine and attractive. There's so many of them I have no idea where to start

>>18505543
Heritage, Habit Rouge and Vetiver Guerlain are the OGs

>>18505543
heritage edt
habit rouge edt
vetiver edt
homme edp

>>18505547
>>18505554
Thanks

>>18505308
Might be a schizo but I think this nigga is working for the pidgeon the way he can’t talk about anything relating to him, noticed this last thread too. I think someone said that he works for robertet so yk

>>18505561
You owe me sex now

>>18505543
Bois Mysteriux

>>18505547
>>18505554
> habit rouge
> masculine
Usually that word is not tied to flamboyant behavior.

>>18505664
yes, we know you are retarded

>>18505665
and we know you are a faggot
What is masculine about a makeup pouch powder smell with tarty lemon on top?
Of all the memes /frag/ parrots, habit rouge is the faggiest.

>>18505669
keep on crying about it

>>18505264
I just pulled the trigger on Beau de Jour and blind bought it because I found a good price and it's getting discontinued, but If I buy Zino and they smell the same I will be kind of upset.

>>18505677
they smell almost the same but Zino is better

I live in a humid and hot country and almost everyone here wears BR 540 or its dupes lol

>>18505681
grim

>>18505677
I didnt find any similarity between bdj and zino at all personally. Its been a while since i smelled bdj though but I remember it being one of the first TFs I really liked. Didnt know it was getting discontinued. Might have to grab it.

>>18505681
I have only smelled br540 in the wild on two ugly black women at a thrift store

>>18505687
Here you will catch a whiff of it from liberal girls and hipster dudes.

What would he wear?

something churchy and tobaccoey

>>18505547
this >>18505554
and add l'instant edt

>>18505690
Must be nice having trendy young people around. The only time I’ve really smelled fragrance in the wild besides that was outside a bar that caters to blacks, and a black wearing like 40 sprays of acqua di slop of some kind at a drugstore. Maybe i should start overspraying so the rabble can smell something new.

>>18505693
Speaking of what are the best tobacco frags
Are there any tobacco-centric fragrances that aren't warm, spicy, boozy and winter-only? Looking for something masculine I can wear daily

>>18505205
Although Mancera is definitely 99% slop, Cedrat Boise has strangely been growing on me.

>>18505696
Valentino's Coral Fantasy comes to mind.
also Dolce&Gabbana Pour Homme if you want more citrusy

>>18505707
Eh not necessarily citrusy just a straight tobacco scent

>>18505704
Hindu Kush grew on me. Kind of fantastic.

>>18505507
The one with chocolate note, idk which is it

>>18505713
Damn if that's the CB analogue to Intense Oud I might have to try it.

>>18505720
Not sure about that, as I haven't tried those, and HK appears to be uniquely incomparable judging from reviews. It's a sweet spicy green banana opening/middle with a smooth enchanting vanilla incense drydown. No oud to my nose. Super comfy fragrance.

Definitely buying another bottle of this.. and samples of CB and IO.

>>18505725
Okay that doesn't sound much like my experience with Intense Oud. If anything IO is closer to Mancera's Aoud Exclusif, but fruitier in the opening and much nicer overall.

>>18505693
As someone that loves tobacco, vanilla, and Tom Ford, I surprisingly hated Tom Ford tobacco vanille.

>>18505308
> I’m not permitted to divulge any information pertaining specifically to the composition and chemical make up of certain fragrances
I wonder if you could comment on something related to what aromachemical could cause an issue.
This has happened with ADG Profondo and D&G Light Blue Eau Intense.
Ok initial output, and then when it starts to dry, just as I finish inhaling, just before exhaling, I get an incredibly disgusting smell on the top of my mouth.
The smell is like a mix of BO, raw egg whites, something musty and humid.
This has happened in both paper and skin, in different stores, in both hot and humid and template weather, and in other people.
I smelled that on some guy in a restaurant, and when asked what was he using, he responded with Profondo. "oh smells great", yet I could smell this little disgusting note for less than a second.
And a lot of people do not seem to notice it at all. It may even be a cultural perception of the note (apparently, arabs call it 'zankha' and people in the US call it 'wet dog' smell)
What the hell does it cause that smell?
(cilantro/coriander does not taste like soap to me)

>>18505635
Errrr. Don't try dox him. You'll scare him off wth

>>18505523
I wear cologne both for myself and for others. Sure, I may be able to appreciate the artistic expression and story it tells but someone else would only be getting a hint of that story.

So with others in mind, one clear image is better than being dropped off at a random point in the story.
I can see why people here could enjoy the more story-like fragrances with your perspective though.

>>18505308
go work nintendo white devil!!!!!!!!

>>18505749
nta but calone maybe?

>>18505749
>>18505759
>Calone delivers an intensely fresh sea-breeze character with prominent watermelon-like fruitiness, subtle floral undertones, and a distinctive mineralic-oyster facet that emerges at higher concentrations, creating the signature scent of 1990s aquatic perfumery.

>>18505635
the perfume industry is too small and niche already, so a lot of people must know each other.
He could be working for any of the IFRA members for example, and certainly certain designers and houses are more prone to scout the internet. (like chanel, lv, bond #9).
If you get fired from that industry, where the hell do you work for as a chemist perfumer? You would be easily marked as a liability.
The easiest route is to not comment on anything.
Or get behind 'muh 7 proxies'.

>>18504852
what the hell happened in Guerlain, that it output frauds like pidgeon and patricia?

>>18505765
cope, seethe and dilate, discord tranny

>>18504862
Teddy Haugen is a gay fraud. Everyone is better than him

>>18505759
>>18505761
> mineralic-oyster facet that emerges at higher concentrations
Maybe it is Calone. My mother has an even sharper nose for foul smells, and she told me she hated aquatics in the 90s.
She was always a chypre for women/fougere for men fan.
She didn't delve onto why, but if that is the reason, I either inherited or learned (she was very strict on how to wash dishes) to detect and detest that smell.
So, what are some calone heavy and calone light fragrances that I can easily test (in any slop perfume section at Sephora, Macy's, etc)?
For example, in a modern Cool Water, I didn't get this smell. Was it originally calone heavy or not?

>>18505773
What do you think, perfumer anon?

>>18505214
i like their DNA, but i find them better suited for home scents personally. i think they're also quite muted and don't perform that well. but they're still nice scent wise

>>18505691
Terror & Magnificence

>>18505746
Tobacco Vanille is a weird scent for me, it starts of sweet, then a hint of tobacco and turns fancy hotel soap on my skin. I only wear it in drinking nights.

>>18505691
joop homme

>>18505749
I have the soapy cilantro gene, so far I have noticed that:
> Saffron smells salty and Iris smells edible to me
>Sandalwood does not smell pickley to me, but kind of a minty green wood.
> I have trouble smelling juniper notes
>Cinnamon tastes like spicy soap to me but I like it in perfumes.
>The drydown of green apple smells like BO to me

I spray this in my room as an air freshener.

>>18505821
> Saffron smells salty and Iris smells edible to me
>The drydown of green apple smells like BO to me
holy shit. of all the changes that little gene does, those stand out as ridiculous. In particular Iris being edible.

>>18505835
Iris smells like a rich powdered candy to me. I get the lipstick vibe people say but to me it has a gourmand-y sweet background

>>18505677
it's not an exact clone, BdJ doesn't have the dirtier and smokier elements, less vanilla more modern amber base

>>18505506
Kobraa is the best incense frag I have ever smelled, like realistic frankincense.
Really want to try Garanat, the idea of combining Kobraa with a rose note sounds so appealing to me.
I've only tried them at the airport so can't comment on overall performance.

>>18505543
Vetiver is the easiest to wear. Classic, clean, and masculine. Dry citrus, spices, and tobacco
Habit Rouge is a bit more flamboyant, with a strong rose and vanilla profile, and the citrus is sweet and candyish. I love it, but it's less versatile than Vetiver.
>>18505696
Guerlain Vetiver. Don't let the name fool you, it is absolutely a tobacco fragrance.

>>18505693
Laudano Nero Tiziana Terenzi. Smells pretty churchy. Could be more tobaccoey

>>18505376
I think it’s very interesting nonetheless, the added tenacity of the resulting molecules is just a bonus, the real value lies within the citrus and orange flower effect achieved. In regards to bois imperial I can only say that me and Quentin Bisch are very different in that regard. We have different tastes and styles, I think mine is also somewhat recognizable despite my obligation to anonymity.
Bergamask is mostly made up of musks and sandalwood materials such as Javanol, little citrus is to be found.
>>18505749
Looking at the report of Profondo, nothing points to it being an aromachemical. Everything you mentioned seems points to indole or skatole, but neither contain traces. Both share many of the same chemicals. Considering the houses under which they released, and the countless trials they endured, I would highly doubt that it’s an aromachemicals off note to which you so strongly react.
>>18505759
It’s not Calone. It is used in trace amounts due of its extreme longevity and projection, and you can’t pick it out since it is part of a marine accord containing equally tenacious materials (Floralozone, Helional, Melonal) In Profondo, there is below 1% Calone.
>>18505765
I don’t think there is anything wrong with Guerlain, although I think they should release something that reminds everyone of their artistic importance in the world of luxury fragrances. I think Nicolai and Roja are both good at marketing, which is very important since you first have to convince the customer to pick out your bottle among thousands of others before they smell the fragrance. I find it particular how on this message board, Nicolai gets treated with reverence while Roja Dove seems to be strongly disliked, but maybe that is because I have only recently discovered this place. I like the anonymity and interesting atmosphere.
>>18505777
I didn’t know him before your message, but he seems more like an entertainer than a real perfumer.

Can dupes be just as good as the original or is the quality of the ingredients that significant? What exactly is the difference between two frags that smell the same but with a price difference of 100+ dollars? Other than paying more for the brand I mean. I am talking only about the ingredients used. Or is the production process more expensive due to better equipment and technology? Maybe access to exclusive molecules/aroma chemicals?

>>18505887
I saw a guy take a formula and make a perfume on youtube by adding all the ingredients to the alcohol and mixing them, is that all there is to it? I know there are complex methods of compound extraction like CO2 and I'm sure there is complex chemistry to scale and mass produce perfumes but are there any other processes to make perfumes than mixing everything together and letting it sit?

>>18505900
I would compare them to music, the dupe is like listening to a song though some mid Bluetooth earbuds in mp3 while the original is like listening to it with studio headphones on CD.

>>18505900
Once you start to look under the surface of the fragrance industry, you will find out that some of the most successful fragrances available are heavily influenced by other, lesser known ones. I have discussed this in previous posts. As my own experiences have shown me, many brands actively seek to emulate other products. My familiarity with many famous compositions, such as most of Creeds, Amouage, Dior, Chanel, Xerjoff and other’s offerings stemming from the fact that I am often tasked to create fragrances similar to these made by the aforementioned brands. Chemically speaking there are always going to be differences between fragrances, firstly because of the material quality, and secondly because of the fact that reproductions also use different formulas to the original, mainly because of price, material availability and the inclusion of Captives in the formula. (Some molecules can be exclusively used by certain houses). In a very well-made replica these differences are going to be so small they might as well not exist, rendering them close to perfect. The question you should ask yourself is if it’s really worth it. Commercially speaking, there is no reason to authentically recreate a high end fragrance, since you would nonetheless have to sell it at a price point that most people who are in the market for this type of scent aren’t interested in spending.
The quality of ingredients can change the scent profile, but the impact is often very negligible: I could perfectly re-create Clive Christian’s blonde amber with low quality aromachemicals for example, and it would nonetheless smell extremely similar to the point the human nose cannot tell the difference between the real and my approximative attempt. More importantly, it depends on the perfumer. If you have a professional examine the GCMS of a particular fragrance, their reconstruction will closely resemble the original, while the reconstruction of a layperson might only be 50% accurate.

>>18505904
That’s all there is to it, although normally you make the fragrance concentrate before diluting it in ethanol. The difficult part is creating a formula, usually there are various accords you have to balance, and in a 50 or 70 line formula, everything needs to be perfectly blended.

>>18505911
Nice, thanks.

>>18505909
Very interesting, thanks.

>>18498664
First review
>this should be called 'love-slave' and pints of it should be sold at fine-arts schools like commissary cigarettes. millions of America's most attractive psychotics should be sewn into latex tuxedos & doused in this & sent out into the streets. every library should have a black leather altar behind the returns counter worked by two tongueless gimps drenched in this.
You weren’t kidding wow. NEED

>>18505909
>heavily influenced by other ones
This reminds me, I recently got Knize Ten. It had some parts of its development that heavily remind me of Grey Flannel and Versace L’Homme. The Versace bottle also somewhat resembles the Knize bottle. Would you say Knize influenced those fragrances? I’m very interested in learning more about the impact of Knize Ten since its one of the most lovely and complex fragrances I’ve tried.

>>18505304
a toaster

>>18505211
unironically my most complimented frag bro

>>18505243
I own both because I like both, so for me it's neither

i want to buy an acqua di gio profumo what are my chances of getting scammed by chink shit from ebay/amazon?

Thoughts on pic related?

>>18505961
I'd give you a list of legit discounters but I'm gatekeeping. Fuck off, faggot. get scammed, loser.

>>18505191
>by name alone
Some really good choices in there, but babycat seems out of place.

>>18505201
Sun downing gives me depressing vibes.

>>18505246
>masculine
>iris
Choose one

>>18505997
Based retard.

How do i scentmog my indian coworker? He wears this obnoxious vanilla fragrance that he reapplies every 2-3 hours

>>18505211
Parfum is nice. Never tried the edp

>>18505308
Tell me as much as you’re willing to type out about Schiff bases, what exactly they how, how they work, the chemistry behind how they extend short lived scent profiles like citruses, etc.

For background, I have a degree in biotechnology and a minor in chemistry, but I didn’t pay as much attention as I should have in Ochem, and I’ve been out of college for a number of years and haven’t touched any of this stuff in a while.

>>18505887
> Looking at the report of Profondo, nothing points to it being an aromachemical. Everything you mentioned seems points to indole or skatole, but neither contain traces. ... I would highly doubt that it’s an aromachemicals off note to which you so strongly react.
> It’s not Calone. It is used in trace amounts ... In Profondo, there is below 1% Calone.
Dang. Thanks perfumanon. What I find amusing, is that I notice this smell at exactly the end on inhalation and start of exhalation.
After this comment, I went and looked at fragrantica, and at least for Light Blue Eau Intense, there are comments about the 'raw egg whites', but some seemed to imply some batch variation/problem.
On reddit, someone says all Calone based fragrances smell bad on his skin, but I do notice this "note" on paper and other people too.
Now I feel it may be a mutated gen or some crazy bacteria in my nose/mouth

>>18505961
Incredibly high. Nigh guaranteed. Good news is, don’t feel bad about this guy >>18505997 That shit doesn’t exist on discounters anymore, the demand is so high and it’s been discontinued for so long that every discounter that ever carried it has been scraped clean.

>>18506053
>demand is so high
Is Profumo that much better than the current parfum? I have the latest parfum and I think it’s excellent. Performance is great too. Or is it one of those “oh things were so much better x years ago” type of tropes.

>>18506107
I honestly can’t answer, never smelled it, but I have to assume something doesn’t get that popular without good reason, at least not something from that house.

>>18505961
If you don't know how to spot a fake, 100%. I looked at couple videos on how to spot a fake but a lot of things are hard to tell from images other than the skinny "Q". The real bottles start at $150, everything less than that is guaranteed fake. If I wasn't set on freshies right now I would take the gamble.

>>18506107
>Is Profumo that much better than the current parfum?
No.
Its very good, but no. Just classic FOMO at play at a larger masstige scale

>>18506009
By wearing a subtle and elegant scent

Just got my PE as per effay recommendations. It feels very refined and vintage 90s. Reminds me of the movie Gattaca if you’re familiar. Not sure if girls around my age would like this, but I’m feeling good about my purchase. Also, seems like 2 sprays was just the right amount.

birthday haul
DS & Durga - Pistachio
Orto Parisi - Risvelium
Caron - Yatagan
vintage Givenchy - Gentleman
vintage YSL - Kouros
Amouage - Interlude Man
D&G Pour Homme
one of my brothers is also a fraghead and knew what kind of stuff I'd like and coordinated with the family what everybody got me. he got me the vintage ones and risvelium and knew where everybody else could get the others for decent prices
I definitely reciprocate when it's his birthday, and christmas is pretty nuts as well.

Do people smell if I haven't washed my hair? I rarely use shampoo because it damages my hair and I find that the natural oils in my hair make my perfume hold on for long...

>>18506165
based

>>18506009
rien (i/ii), 10 sprays

>>18505997
lol, lmao even

>>18505927
based

>>18505887
>It’s not Calone
interesting
is it possible that some people are extremely sensitive to it (even in very small doses)?
>Nicolai
a sophisticated, safe lineup with some great frags (NYI, Odalisque, Fig Tea, etc.), mostly good frags and some duds (the new "gourmand" line is crap) with okay prices (especially for the small bottles)
her marketing is imo shit tho
>Roja
flamboyant homo (idc but might rub some in the wrong way) roger bird pushing his (okay) frags through influencers for 500-1000 bucks a bottle
>The question you should ask yourself is if it’s really worth it
no fucking way

>>18506173
all full bottles? nice
do you like risvelium? it's a weird frag

>>18506175
only if they lean in for a kiss

>SOTD: EP The Musc
simple clean musk with the lavender and beeswax notes making it interesting

>>18506175
Then you aren't using the correct shampoo, anon. 9/10 times when people don't use shampoo and wash their hair properly they will look like dirty greasers.

Use Aveeno oat milk gentle shampoo. I have very sensitive skin and I use the face wash. It's a great line.

I don't know about smelling unwashed hair but people can tell if you don't wash your hair.

Also why the fuck are you putting straight perfume in your hair. That's more damaging than any shampoo ever...

>>18506009
18 sprays zoologist tyrannosaurus rex
>>18506173
snice
>>18505887
>although I think they should release something that reminds everyone of their artistic importance in the world of luxury fragrances.
they need to stop sodomizing thierry wasser first. dali pour homme remains his best creation
>I think Nicolai and Roja are both good at marketing
i've never seen a roger bird or a nicolai ad in the wild. i do see roja shilled by influencers more often though. especially a few years ago, the hype was real. when i finally got to test them at a store i was very disappointed because all of it was slop.
the only places i see nicolai mentioned are here, basenotes and by luca turin

Does anything beat Dior fragrances when it comes to compliments?

>>18506191
Having thick hair

>>18506185
Thanks, I only use random shampoos and conditioner from time to time since I don't know shit about it. As for perfume application, I just do it for longevity, had no idea it can damage hair

>>18506021
A Schiff base is a type of imine, (which is an organic compound formed by the reaction of a primary amine -NH2 with an aldehyde or ketone)

The defining functional group is a C=N double bond (called an imine or azomethine).This is why, if you want the same effect without risking forming a schiff base, you will use dimethyl anthranilate (as is the case in Jazz club by Margiela). In perfumery, Schiff bases are formed by combining an aldehyde with an aromatic amine, such as methyl anthranilate (I talked about this earlier when discussing Citral and orange blossom notes). MA is heavier, more stable, and longer-lasting than the highly volatile aldehydes, and the low vapor pressure makes MA an ideal fixative, meaning it slows down evaporation. In perfumery, you use schiff bases to capture volatile top notes: (Citral, Limonene, decanal, undecanal, methyl nonyl acetaldehyde) although the last one doesn’t have a citrus odor, and slowly release them over time. Citrus top notes are particularly volatile (low boiling point, low molecular mass, non polar). Schiff bases hydrolyze slowly. In laypersons terms, this means the new molecule slowly disintegrates; after the initial molecules have evaporated, new ones are gradually released. To create a schiff base you “simply” have to combine the two molecules at a certain ratio and wait, removing byproducts along the way. The resulting molecule will have greater tenacity and longevity

>>18505932
Knize ten is one of the most influentialal leather fragrances in perfumery. It did for leather what Chanel’s No5 did for soft aldehydic florals. Structurally speaking, the animalic green base it has is very similar to that in Versace L’homme, although some aromachemicals differ given the 60 years between releases. More than that, I think Versace was influenced by the overarching theme of leather, flowers and citrus. Grey flannel meanwhile wasn’t influenced by Knize. Fun fact: grey flannel inspired bourdon to make green Irish tweed.

what are some coffee based fragrances

>>18506218
>grey flannel inspired bourdon to make green Irish tweed.
you mean cool water, the finished and complete formula

>>18506229
No, green Irish tweed, later bourdon perfumed cool water, which was what green Irish tweed was supposed to be originally.

>>18506232
>which was what green Irish tweed was supposed to be
nta but yeah, that was the joke

Is Pierre Bourdon the stupidest perfumer of all time? He let the jews of Creed take advantage of him like a little bitch and steal his compositions and sell them as their own.

>>18505961
Just buy the EDP
I don't get these ADG nerds, they smell almost exactly the same

>>18506201
It's alcohol... You're putting ethanol on your hair. That shit is sooooo drying. That's almost certainly why you are having trouble with your hair. Some brands offer your fav frag in a hair mist version. Buy one of those

>>18506225
There's this one, but I don't know how it smells like.

What's a good masculine niche for wearing in Europe right now? I am running out of New York intense, and left my bottle of Ganymede in the US.
Also, my female friend told me NYI smells a bit too "old" in her opinion and that I should find something with a more youthful vibe.

>>18506304
you could just buy bois imperial if you like ganymede

>>18506186
>never seen a roger bird or a nicolai ad in the wild
He was talking about marketing not just ads. Marketing is everything that sells your product, in perfumery the product is the smell. Everything else, from branding, bottle design, image, website, social media, store, press release and samples, blurbs and "history", status, personality cult, ads, pricing, etc.., it's all marketing. Specifically I think he was talking about how they financially present their product and the perfumer attached to them. Nobody buys perfumes solely because of the smell and nobody would even bat an eye at Patricia if she wasn't a Guerlain nepo baby that was discriminated by the industry because she was a woman. The same industry where the biggest and most influential people in its history are women. Luca is a kike hack that contributes nothing and says shit for free perfumes. Roja did PR at Guerlain, his whole brand is marketing and cult of personality just like Patricia, he's just good at it.

>>18506343
yes, you are still retarded

>>18506308
nta but aren't there other options than BI for an attractive yet not generic niche fragrance

>>18506378
>aren't there other options than BI for an attractive yet not generic niche fragrance
there are tons
PdE Un Bel Amour D’été is my summer frag

>>18506379
>there are tons
Could you list some of them? often my gripe with niche is that I find the scents really interesting but they're not attractive enough for me to want to wear them
>Un Bel Amour d'été
Will check out

>>18506381
just lurk moar or simply read back a few threads
even with all the noise there are always some good frags mentioned
there's also Le Cri + many others from PdE
YOSLY, Remarkable People, etc. - all pretty good summer frags desu

>>18506124
I atm wear a couple sprays of encre noir sport for work. Got any recs? Im trying to get a new scent

>>18506378
I wouldn't fixate on "niche" nowadays, the term has become almost meaningless. Just say unique.

>>18506343
It’s very unfortunate that she didn’t stay with Guerlain, despite everything I believe she would’ve done a great job in a more marketing oriented role in stead of fragrance creation. I unfortunately don’t know many female perfumers, so I always welcome a little more diversity in the field, especially nowadays where the consumer is more in touch with the artist behind the scent. There are many perfumers who despite having little artistic or technical knowledge have thrived in the industry by virtue of their gender, and I think that sort of representation can be quite powerful, it’s sort of like with famous musicians. No one cares if Taylor swift writes her own songs or uses autotune, in the end she’s still the one performing on stage, and I think perfumery will be like that too one day. I have observed this very interesting shift in the industry, wherein less talented perfumers seek the limelight more to “counterbalance” the lack of technical know-how by creating something akin to a cult of personality. I am sure you can find many examples of this. I’ve particularly noticed this trend in some of Amouage’s interviews with perfumers, which seem to highlight the growing emphasis on personality and narrative instead of technical skill or being good at your craft.

I just got my Nicolai New York Intense after blind buying it, but when I sprayed it for the first time it smells a lot like Patchouli Intense (maybe 60% similarity), which I already own. Is this normal?

>>18506438
probably not, imo they are not similar

Looking for a frag that smells really clean but not citrus-forward
Walked past a guy today who was wearing this masculine, extremely clean and pleasant scent, it reminded me of a hotel lobby or something but it wasn't some airy light scent or a powdery frag, it was super smooth, fresh and aromatic(?)
I suck at describing scents but any recommendations would be nice

>>18506451
eldo exit the king
rogue mousse illuminee

>>18506451
>>18506454
+ gucci guilty cologne ph

>>18506445
It's definitely got that classic, old-school Eau Sauvage DNA (never smelled Bois du Portugal btw), but there's also an unmistakable semblance to Patchouli Intense, although in the drydown not so much (ultimately, I find the latter much more aldehydic). I also checked the reviews on Fragrantica and found several people claiming that there are similarities between the two fragrances, so I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this lol

>>18506248
I blind bought this a few years ago, smells like cheap leather, couldn't detect any coffee at all. Returned it after trying it for 2 days

>>18506225
Akro Awake

>>18506225
Day Three La Tacita de Café

>>18506454
>>18506456
Thanks
It wasn't soapy it was more like an aftershave-like scent but not quite as sharp

>>18506482
>aftershave
Meant shaving cream rather

>>18506473
Good to know, I was interested in it because I wanted something with leather, dark chocolate and coffee kind of frag.
I'll wait and search more.

>>18506482
Legend Montblanc / Fierce Abercrombie & Fitch

>>18504907
Are these even bad?

>>18506206
nta, but fascinating.
> if you want the same effect without risking forming a schiff base
why would it be a risk? from everything you said, the problem is finding the correct/desired ratios.
Or, the risk is the possibility that it acts as a base for other compounds you didnt expect?

Anyone know why montblanc vetiver glacier isn't on discounters and places where they sell testers at? Is it like a limited release kinda thing? I found it at Douglas for 100 euros and I looked it up online and that's where it was cheapest
Also if you have smelled it/bought it what do you think?
Sorry if im asking some dumb questions, pretty new to frags and currently only have 4 bottles (boss absolu, Montblanc explorer extreme, aqua di gio profondo EDP and ysl homme EDP)

>>18506434
>don’t know many female perfumers, so I always welcome a little more diversity in the field
While not perfumers the modern perfume industry was created by Coco Chanel in France and Estee Lauder in the US. Some of the top female perfumers are Daniela Andrier (Prada L'homme, Candy, Luna Rosa, YSL Rive Gauche, Gucci Envy for men), Christine Nagel (Hermes H24, D&G The One, Eau de Cartier), Anne Flipo (YSL L'homme, Libre, Rabanne Invictus, Phantom), Natalie Lorson (Lalique Encre Noire, Bentley for Men Intense, Le Labo Another 13, D&G K), Delphine Jelk (Guerlain Le Homme Ideal, Mon Guerlain), Marie Salagme (Margiela By the Fireplace, Beach Walk), Aliénor Massenet (Margiela Jazz Club, Memo African Leather), and many more. There has never been an issue with the representation of women in perfumery.

>>18506504
I think I know what you're going for because I was looking for the same thing a while ago. I never found one that was what I was looking for so I layered Tom Ford Ombre leather with goodhabit ritual for the strong coffee notes, it worked really well together

Any recommendations for a great Xerjoff Naxos 1861 clone please?

>>18506409
>a couple sprays of encre noir sport
lmfao why even bother might as well wear nothing

>>18506533
lol jerkoff

>walk into perfume shop
>pick up Followed, test with 10 sprays
>walk out

>>18506547
stop with the sissyspraying
ty

>>18506511
No, people here just like calling people Indian when they don't agree with them but don't have an actual argument. I find the subreddit fascinating with their obsession with getting compliments and balancing status within their means. It's my anthropological study into their society and through this lens into mainstream perfumery as a whole.

The new Prada bottle looks cool. Interested to try it.

>>18505024
>these grifters stopped doing frag content when they realized its a niche within a niche
kek

Planning my next order
>Le Male EDT
>DHI
>Jicky
>TdH EDT
goated or scroted?

>>18506598
All trash except Jicky

Montblanc Legend Spirit

>>18505970
First off, if you like the way it smells, thats all that matters

So when I tried this it really smelled like a High quality but Basic summer frag. I hate the term, but it smelled "Designer" as in it lacked the real depth and complexity that you might expect from an expensive Niche fragrence. In comparison, Sedley is fucking amazing. It has a great opening which lasts for quite a while then the dry down is super masculine while being good in warmer weather.

>>18506541
it's ok to be poor

>>18506644
it's def not okay to be a noselet

>>18506523
Anyone?

>>18505517
I've only been reading this in the last few threads, and I don't think they're very different from any other brand's in this regard.
Anyway, if that's what you like try some Profumum Roma.

>>18506434
I've started reading Scent and Chemistry, thanks for the suggestion anon!
I discovered quite a few interesting things, technical and historical, not lastly the common usage of "balsamic" in perfumery and that it's not at all what I thought and what I meant by it.
So I'll ask again (since you didn't answer last time booo), what are some interesting frags with prominent camphoraceous notes/accords (camphor, menthol, eucalyptol, cold, cooling, opens-up-your-nose) in your informed opinion?

>>18506409
Prada L'Homme

Black Afgano mainly smells like patchouli.
It doesn't smell very smokey, it doesn't smell like most of the listed notes, and it certainly doesn't smell like cannabis, hashish and the likes.

>>18506600
Checked. Please explain why they are trash.

>>18506685
Second this. If I worked in an office that’s what I would wear.

>TdH + syrup
Blecchhh, what were they thinking?

>>18506686
It smells inky to me, like an animalic version of sharpie mixed with an old wooden closet. It stays on my clothes for so long.

>>18506598
Ultramale mogs le male if you’re going for full faggot

Thoughts on this house?

How similar is bois imperial to ganymede? I like ganymede until that nasty curry/cumin like smell comes and I hear bois imperial is simila.

>>18506715
Similar in the opening, drydown is completely different. It doesn't have the curry ketchup accord Ganymede has at all but to some people it's weirdly reminiscent of blue cheese
Just buy the sample set

>>18506715
imo it's kinda similar due to the use of akigalawood, no curry/cumin note in BI tho

What vibe do H24 and flankers have? Boring office scent?

>How do I ask for a recommendation in /frag/?

>Provide your age range
31

>Provide the season or climate you intend to wear the fragrance in.
four seasons, temperate

>Provide your ideal price range for buying a recommended frag.
0 bucks to infinite bucks

>Provide some details on what type of scent you are looking for (favorite notes and accords, hated notes and accords, etc.)
my favorite fragrances are cdg 2 man and eau de guerlain. i strongly dislike kiehl's original musk, it smells like public restrooms to me.

>Provide some details on your intended aesthetic and setting for wearing a scent (frag for school, the office, dates, casual daily wear, etc.)
i'm looking for an everyday fragrance that i can wear to work in an outpatient clinic. it shouldn't be too offensive or a common scent.

>fags I own
cdg 2 man (love it)
eau de guerlain (love it)
mitsouko (love it)
tauer 2 (like it)
shalimar (like it)
creed aventus (like it, half of my colleagues wear it)
at the barber's (like it)
fahrenheit (don't like it, smells like my dad)
oud malaki (don't like it)
kiehl's original musk (hate it)


>Generally ignore any posts about fragrances that seem to intentionally evade your provided criteria, they are likely made by trolls and/or shills.

>>18506731
>Jacques Fath Green Water
>Guerlain Vetiver EDT
>Terre d'Hermes EDT
>Chanel Pour Monsieur EDT
>Nicolai New York (EDT/Intense)
>Caron Le 3e Homme

one of the best 'fumes I've tried in a long time.

Incredibly pleasant, like a creamy Phantom. Inoffensive, divine scent. You get pineapple, you get flowers, you get creaminess. Also cashmeran. No harshness/sourness whatsoever from the pineapple, also no suncream vibe.
It doesn't feel heavy or deep at all. Very solar, happy and light.
overall stupidly easy to like and wear.
The only "downside" is that it lacks a distinctive character.

>>18506748
lol jerkoff

>>18506744
going to check these out. cheers.

>>18506719
Good for spring and fall. Its not exactly exciting but its not office tier boring

>>18506237
After smelling Cool Water, he is the biggest faggot for introducing such a toiletal effluvia into the world.

Pseudo intellectual faggot who prides himself on liking "cinema" too. Total betacuck collecting the betabucks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZw4Q2vRPPw

>>18506755
>t. brainlet

>>18506756
Eat another urinal cake.

>>18506731
Encre Noire a l'Extreme
Terre d'Hermes EDT
Chanel Por Monsieur if you want something classic(dated)
Eau Sauvage Extreme if you want something classic(dated) that's more similar to what you already have
As a bonus, because they're very different from everything you mentioned liking but also good everyday frags in a professional setting, Winter Palace and Fat Electrician.

>>18506760
cope, seethe and dilate
(ywnbaw)

>>18506763
Why I oughta....

Is there a scent with an incense/smoky note which wears somewhat light? I've tried some of the big names like DHS '21, AdG Parfum, 2 Man, LADDM, Bentley Absolute.

Basically, something like this Ka-Fuh 'Aqua' incense I used to buy.

>>18506770
l'Orpheline

>>18506598
good picks. 3 modern classics, one old classic

>>18506715
30% similar? if you remove the leather, curry-reminiscent immortelle and most of the minerals from Ganymede, you get BI. way more simple and stripped down fragrance

>>18506719
they have that classic modern Hermes feel that's austere and elegant, so most would use them as office scents. but they're fairly unique, so I woudln't say boring

>>18504971
It is tho

>>18504970
Angels Share is for chicks

>>18505240
They’re legit, got Silver Mountain Water there, convinced myself it was a dupe, searched DFW to find a department store with it, found a RETURN at a Macy’s in Texas and sure enough, Aura is legit.

>>18506731
somehow I get the feeling that you could pull off Chanel no. 19

>>18506770
encre noire a l'extreme?

>>18505517
Tom is very special to me as a person, but to a degree…

Tom, you like this cherry scent?
>Yep, call it Sexy Cherry
Tom, how about this watermelon thing?
>I like it, call it Watermelon Wet
Tom, we got Coffee here.
>Hmm, call this one Cafe Hard-On.
Tom, it’s not a fragrance, we just got Starbucks for you..
>Cafe. Hard. On. PRINT IT!

>>18506801
The names are charming. Noir de Noir is so fuckin stupid it circles back to being cool. “Fucking fabulous” does piss me off though

>>18506536
I dont stink. 2-4 sprays is enough for me.

>>18506679
More than 11 years have passed so we can safely talk about this (I think).
You should definitely check out Royal Mayfair by Creed, it has very interesting camphoraceous and cooling notes, and seems like something you would find very interesting. Since you’re on your way to becoming an expert, and because you asked so nicely, I’ll also tell you what the cooling eucalyptus accord in the creed fragrance is made of:

Freskomenthe, Scotch Spearmint EO, Blue Gum Eucalyptus EO, Red Thyme EO, Citrylal E, Black and Pink Pepper EO.

If you’re still interested about Perfume after you’re done with the books, (given I’m still on this chat room) I’ll send you some formulas similar to those of popular fragrances (I can legally share) so you can start learning about the highest level of perfumery. I say similar because it would be illegal for me to send you the “real” deal

>>18506817
NTA but thank you for your services sensei

>>18506685
Edp or intense?

>>18506770
Were these not light enough for you or not incensey enough for you?

>>18506852
I suppose the lighter ones didn't have enough incense, and the smokier ones didn't have enough lighter notes (citrus, florals, aquatics). 2 Man is actually a good balance with its aldehydic opening. So maybe I'm like the poster above, who also wants something like 2 Man.

>>18506237
I remember the book Ghost perfumer hinted and made it clear that Pierre has serious daddy issues.

>>18506206
Thank you for the lesson, PerfumeAnon.

>Schiff bases hydrolyze slowly
This more than anything is (I think) what I was looking for, from the little that I knew I was assuming it was a chemical bond between two aromachemicals, but I didn’t think they would naturally decompose on the skin to their constituent materials, not to mention that their combined chemical structure would likely smell different. Does the original, undecomposed Schiff base duo material effect the scent much?

Also, is it safe to say that for the specific example of methyl anthranilate you’d get a fair degree of the grape-y scent it provides in the heart/base notes? Any other noteworthy Schiff base materials?

I had recently heard of an artisanal perfumer working on the topic to extend some citrus notes and it’s an interesting to me.

>>18506789
If you like the Angels Share style but want something masculine try Baraonda.

>>18506451
Issey Miyake L'eau d'Issey Pour Homme Intense

>>18506801
I thought tom ford is some old boomer born in 1870 lol

>>18505204
I can’t wear it anymore, it would be stolen valor.

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>>18504907
Indians use cow poop for frag you fag