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Is this good for a signature scent

Why do people keep recommending Cool Water?

I thought it would be so good but it's smells very dated, stingy and harsh. It would be 90s sleaze if it weren't aquatic

>>18507005
I think that was my post, didn't know someone screencapped it lmao

>>18507050
it's historically important, but does just smell like a room / toilet spray to me. at least the modern version does

>>18507050
>it's smells very
filtered
>if it weren't aquatic
turbo filtered

>>18507050
OG Kenzo Homme is the better early aquatic tbqh

>>18507050
it's a good frag (even after all the reformulations)
simple as

>>18507050
I hate the opening it reminds me of rubber gloves but the is drydown is good

>>18506817
Much appreciated.
You flatter me, but I don't think I have the passion and interest to stomach the amount of chemistry I would need to learn to become an expert.
Still, I'll keep reading the books you recommended, and I'll be sure to let you know when(if) I finish them and really commit to buying the tools and chemicals to put all that cool stuff into practice.

>>18507049
It has pretty weak projection even if the scent is good. I dont know if the iso e just causes instant anosmia or what but I can wear like 8-12 sprays of this and other people can’t really smell it.

Is Drakkar noir a sharp kind of barbershop scent or is it more smooth/"rounded"?

>>18507114
It's pretty rounded, and it's not a barbershop scent.
Then again, I don't know what your references for sharp, rounded and barbershop are, so who knows.

>>18507117
Yeah idk I have no idea what I'm talking about. How's the longevity? Apparently it sucks now. I want a cheap scent for the rest of the summer

>>18507118
cool water and drakkar noir is literally all you need
performance is okay btw

>>18507120
I like the cool water dna but I prefer GIT's take on it not sure why, maybe because it's greener
Anyway I'll try DN then thanks

>>18507118
>apparently it sucks
I don't know where you got that idea from, longevity's nothing special but perfectly acceptable considering the price.
You can also opt for Dakar, which is cheaper and more similar to the early formulation of DN.
Plenty of cheap scents you can get for the rest of the summer, but if you want a classic, arguably dated, aromatic fougere this is it.

>>18507122
>Plenty of cheap scents you can get for the rest of the summer
Any others you'd recommend?

>>18507124
check the op
my recs are Jeanne en Provence Néroli Intense and Geoffrey Beene Grey Flannel (yes, i wear it in the summer)

>>18507128
thanks

>>18507101
In my case it projects a lot, I've been warned many times that I wear too strong of a cologne at work.

>>18507124
Anything from Neroli Intense to Abraaj Viking to Bogart, the list is endless, you're better off reading the FAQ in the OP and then provide some details about what you like so you get recommendations that make sense.

>>18507132
>details about what you like
I'm not difficult, I like most stuff except powdery notes and iris, and frags that are overly lemony because they smell like cleaning products to me
It makes it hard to find good fresh frags because it feels like most of them are very citrus-centric

Chad wears Sauvage, Brad wears BDC

Which YSL Y is the best?

>>18507149
it isn't

>>18507149
The EDT because if the other ones were better they wouldn’t be flankers.

>>18507143
Have you tried Sel D'Issey?

>>18507148
The Chad (RIP) who bullied me in 2017 always wore Sauvage

>>18507148
It smells so ass I can't stomach it

>>18507171
Sauvage is the scent of Big Dick Chads.

Thoughts on TDH eau givree, is it a good freshie?

>>18507114
Smoother kind, soapy.

Are niche fragrances actually snake oil/placebo similar to audiophile shit like gold plated cables? Are they really that different from designer stuff?

>>18507185
they are different (not always in a good way tho)

Just got another backup bottle
Apparently they fucked up the new one

I really like the Bois one also
I'm scared to wear it tho
Afraid to look and see what the price is on that one

>>18507175
yes

>>18507188
Vetiver EDT
Homme EDP
Heritage EDT
Habit Rouge EDT
Eau de Guerlain

All you need.

>>18507185
"niche" is a meaningless marketing term in 2025
you have "niche" brands that make totally designer style perfumes like Parfums de Marly. and then you have designers making "niche" smelling stuff like Comme des Garcons
it's just a useless categorization

>>18507188
Nice rose opening but once it dries down it smells like generic ambroxan sloppa

>>18507185
Niche just means the company only makes fragrances. It has nothing to do with brand pedigree or fragrance quality or style. It is used that way as a marketing term as the other anon said. There is niche slop and designer gems. Broadly speaking however, there is more variety among niche brands.

>>18507175
absolutely vile stuff

If you had to reduce your rotation to only 5 frags, which would you pick?

Does H24 EDT have the Terre D'Hermes DNA or is it completely original?

>>18507270
original

>>18507270
totally different
it's somewhat in that transparent green modern Hermes house style, but more overtly synthetic with those metallic notes

Thoughts on L'Homme Ideal EDT for summer?

>>18507280
would work well for summer nights. could be a bit too sweet for day wear

>>18507267
encre noire a l'extreme
dior homme parfum
terre d'hermes
jaipur homme
h24 edt

whats in the package, fraggots?

>>18507303
bois imperial

>>18507303
PdE Le Cri or huge dragon dildo

>>18507303
Secretions Magnifiques

Today something very interesting landed on my desk. A small bottle containing what I believe to be one of the best rose absolutes I have ever smelled, fingers crossed that I’ll be working with it more intimately in the foreseeable future.
>>18507270
TDH and H24 are extremely different, both from a structural and olfactory standpoint. I’ve always been quite interested In TDH, both because of its simplicity and success. In my eyes it is one of the most well-made designer fragrances in existence, particularly the Parfum version. Ellena is the master of creating realistic fragrances while using as little aromachemicals as possible, which is something that cannot be said for Christine Nagel. If memory serves me correctly, there are circa 80 different molecules in H24, in TDH there are 22.

i'm getting rid of most of my designer fragrances and replacing them with ONE scent. tell me which one it should be
>prada l'homme edt
>tdh edt
>myslf parfum

>>18507316
hermes bel ami

>>18507321
not an option and even if it was it's too expensive
I need a clean, versatile and attractive designer scent.

>>18507316
I like terre the best. Just a unique versatile scent.

>>18507303
Encre Noire

>>18507305
>>18507307
>>18507310
not pretentious enough but dragon dildo was very close
here's a hint: it's 4 frags

What are your favorite tobacco frags? Mine are these two. Only have samples of them but wanna get a bottle. Not sure which one though.

>>18507034 (OP)
how does one acquire samples of legit fragrances? I've been burned too many times buying whole bottles of unique stuff sight unseen

>>18507333
i prefer naxos

>>18507333
While definitely smelling nice I don’t really consider either fragrance very tobacco heavy, especially the former strikes me as a rather floral woody composition, while Naxos it’s also not what I would traditionally call tobacco, being more citrusy and sweet. I am familiar with the chemical makeup of the two fragrances, and both have relatively simplistic tobacco accords that skew more ambery and coumarin heavy.

>>18507333
I've tried these. Should I try Ambre Narguile next?

>>18507332
>Le Male EDT
>DHI
>Jicky
>TdH EDT

>>18507333
Tobacco Vanille and Chergui. I tried Amouage Royal Tobacco recently and it wasn’t for me, but if you like ambers/resiny fragrances it would be a home run.

>>18507340
Scentsplit if you’re in the US. There are also fragrance exchanges on FB that often have extensive collectors who decant from their own bottles.

>>18507363
Nope, thats my order. I’m on the fence about Le Male rn though, I may wait to finish my sample before I commit. I did order DHI yesterday though.

>>18507340
Reviews unironically

>>18507367
curious about Le Male. i like Caron Pour Homme for the Lavender and Vanilla base, but not a fan of its performance.

>>18507371
I think you would like it. Its quite different than Caron and it has good longevity under clothes. I did find the top notes to smell a bit like mint toothpaste but not in a bad way. Once it dries down a bit the lavender and vanilla comes through and is quite crisp and fresh. If you work indoors you would probably get most of a day out of it. I work outside and on a medium impact hot day I can expect 5-6hrs from it. On a low impact cool day you could get 8 hours easily at least if you spray on your chest under clothes.

>>18507324
I hear some people say it's more of a mature scent is that true?

Does anyone else not get the poop smell from jasmine and oud notes? Is it a genetic thing?

>>18507376
from oud yes from jasmine no

>>18507375
I like it. It's the opposite of Sauvage. It's not a party goer millenial fragrance, more like an divorced father owning a land in Bahamas fragrance. Hope u understand.

>>18507384
oh ok
I'm in my late twenties, not sure I can pull off the divorced dad vibe

>>18507384
>TDH is gen X
>Sauvage is millennials
What's the zoomer frag? And the boomer frag?

>>18507388
>What's the zoomer frag?
bdc
>And the boomer frag?
brut

>>18507391
this desu

>>18507332
sauvage edt, sauvage edp, sauvage parfum, sauvage elixir
what do i win?

>>18507312
>If memory serves me correctly, there are circa 80 different molecules in H24, in TDH there are 22.
Interesting. Especially since TdH smells more complex. What are your thoughts on H24?

>>18507316
TdH for sure

>>18507388
>What's the zoomer frag?
Le Male Elixir
>And the boomer frag?
Drakkar Noir

>>18507191
Sultan vetiver
Viking
NYI
Santal Royal
Saharienne

>>18507386
Just go to the mall and smell it even the shitty drugstore in my fuckass town carries TdH

>>18507420
Based

>>18507416
is it that much better than the others

My Oud Maximus sample came. I could smell it though the vial even with the cap wrapped in parafilm. It kind of smells like a barn. Gonna take a shower and try it out

>>18507428
Yes, out of all the 2000s designer hits, it's probably the one that became an all time classic. The fact that it's still getting compared to brand new fragrances in these kind of posts shows that it's solidified its position.
Prada l'homme is okay, but too powdery for me, I prefer some darker notes to contrast with the iris

>>18507432
>The fact that it's still getting compared to brand new fragrances in these kind of posts shows that it's solidified its position.
yeah that's true, I can't think of any other designer fragrance released almost 20 years ago that gets put in the same bag as current releases

Question: Has anyone here tried not using EDT/EDP at all but scenting their clothes with essential oils instead?

Here is the plan: One drop of pine oil on a cotton cloth, folded in a way that the drop is on the inside of the cloth. Put one of them between every 3rd Tshirt in my closet.

Brilliant idea or unfathomably idiotic?

>>18507438
Turpentine? You want to smell like turpentine?

>>18507438
Probably not the worst idea but if you wear a fragrance it will be layered with a faint base of the oil

>>18507438
I wear expensive clothes and essential oils would just ruin the fabric.

Do they even make truly masculine frags anymore or is it all gourmandslop?

>>18507451
it's all gourmandslop
no exceptions
sorry

>>18507376
A lot of jasmine fragrance has indole, which is a molecule shared with human shit. The headier jasmines do smell like someone shat themselves to me. I also find jasmine incredibly attractive and studies show that jasmine is one of the most attractive fragrances, “animalic” scents can be very seductive

>>18507451
There are no frags you can buy that actually make you smell like a real man should smell. I suggest you collect your sweat, your urine and your feces. You mix those together and distill them and then add a bit of lavender oil and vetiver oil. Not too much though. Just enough to shave off the harshest animalic edges of your distilled secretions. Then you add alcohol. The concentration is up to you.

>L'Eau d'Issey pour Homme Vetiver
Trying this one today. At a distance, it definitely gets across a facsimile of DH2020. However, it replaces the cedar/musk of the Dior with a slightly more bitter/earthy base. I don't think it will fix people's issues with DH2020 and noseblindedness though.

>>18507458
You could also just wear Rien

>>18507460
based

>>18507154
No idea on YSL Y, but, I've seen this spoken about for Guerlain, that 'always get the Edt'. But, in other industries, you could intuitively say that later additions are improvements, therefore, the later flankers are 'better' than the original (some flankers obviously being money grabs nonetheless)
Why is this not the case in perfumery?

>>18507469
>you could intuitively say that later additions are improvements
and you would be wrong

>>18507280
will definitely work for summer nights, imo even during the day

>>18507451
depends what you mean by masculine.
how do you imagine a masculine perfume smells like?

>>18507472
Eh, something like Drakkar Noir for example is what I'd call masculine, that kind of clean, aromatic freshness, though it does smell dated to me now. Cool Water (and Green Irish Tweed) is another one in a different genre.
Then there's Fahrenheit, although I'm not a huge fan, I prefer the clean soapy kind of fougere.
But all of these came out four decades ago and as I said, although they're good and I'd wear them, they have a vintage feel and I'm looking for a more modern take on that clean masculine freshness.

>>18507469
I've heard people say that when they're developing a new fragrance, the EdT is the best one which gets chosen for release, and the flankers are all of the runners up which they didn't think were as good.
Obviously for Guerlain Vetiver or Habit Rouge this can't be true since the original versions came out decades ago.
But maybe for newer fragrances it could be the case.

>>18507482
you could look into Aromatic Fougeres.
i own Beau de Jor which i enjoy a lot. there's MFK Masculin Pluriel and Sartorial.
i also like Chypres, like Antaeus and NYI. there's also some classics like ADP Colonia and Eau Sauvage
might also like toabcco and leather forward perfumes.

Can we talk objectively about LV fragrances. I'm curious about them as they are very hyped but that obviously comes with a lot of bullshit. I'm interested in knowing
>Are they innovative
>Are they complex
>Is there anything to be gained as a hobbyist in exploring them
I can already assume they aren't "worth" the price but if there's something particularly good or groundbreaking I'd be fine buying a couple ml of anything particularly interesting.

>>18507500
>Are they innovative
>Are they complex
>Is there anything to be gained as a hobbyist in exploring them
lolno

>>18507500
I tried a bunch of them and I love Orage and I think Pacific Chill is nice. Don't care at all for the rest.

>>18506744
>>18506762
i picked up a bottle of tdh edt and ordered a sample of winter palace. thank you for the recs.

>>18507509
gl;hf

>>18507444
The plan would be the oil not touching the fabric directly
>>18507440
just a faint subtle undertone

>>18507482
I love Hermann and will take any opportunity to shill it, clean and manly, it’s like if sauvage was just as predatory and emotionally unavailable but in like a sexless ivory tower hopeless romantic kind of way, existential novel protagonist ass scent

What are some nieche nice fresh and clean long lasting frags can you guys recommend? I way buyng a lot of heavier and sweeter stuff, need to get something fresh.

I have now PdM Herod, Indecent Cherry, Melting Lust Emil Elise, cherry smoke tom ford, guerlain lhomme ideal extreme, portraiit of a lady FM. From more fresh I used to have aventus only, but don't want it anymore.

I tested all freshies from PdM, kind of liked greenley, but I had too much fruity perfumes and am a bit tired, maybe you can suggest something airy? Not sure about Acne by FM, i like the clean detergent smell of it, but maybe too floral.

>>18507500
That rose one they have, not the raspberry one, ombre nomad? Is 90% black aoud by montalle. It's 10% darker probably from more synth oud, and it has similarities with santal Royal.

>>18507509
bweeeeeeeeh i want winter palace so much
i hate being fucking poor

>>18507333
Iron Duke

Well, I've been sitting with Oud Maximus for a few hours and I guess I like oud. I've been sniffing my hand for hours to the point of going noseblind. I may have to pick up a couple of his attars. Anyone here have experience with attars? Any brands I should be checking out? It seems like attars under the shirt are a good way to enjoy a skin scent fragrance for the longest amount of time. I don't care for projection in the slightest, so the high longevity at the cost of no projection is kind of a plus for me.

got sidetracked, it's the areej le dore attar set (inverno russo, war & peace, cuir de russie, antiquity)
>>18507363
thank god no
>>18507414
>what do i win
my used dragon dildo
>>18507500
no, no and no
>>18507438
no, but i used to put a wooden bracelet next to an incense burner so it'd take on the smell. kind of worked but wasn't amazing.

>>18507605
Holy shit, I’m looking at those attars right now and they sound amazing. If the set weren’t sold out I would instant buy. Nice score.

>>18507500
gay tiktok zoomslop

I'm looking for something dark, maybe a little oppressing and depressing, maybe vampire

So far I have lalique encre noire l'extreme and Jermann a mes Cote by EDLO.

>>18507303
>>18507307
>huge dragon dildo
>Faith in thread sustained

>>18507316
>>18507375
Personally I would also choose TdH EdT, but >>18507323 while it’s definitely versatile, I wouldn’t call it clean (at least not in the traditional sense, I wouldn’t call it dirty either) or particularly “attractive” - it’s mature professional.

>>18507542
ok found it for 60% off in a random website that had good reviews on trustpilot
let's hope for the best

>>18507376
>>18507454
It’s more a matter of quantity (of indoles). Trace amounts smell floral, hence jasmine scent, large quantities smell like feces.

>>18507421
In the US Hermes is only carried in very high end retailers like Saks.

>>18507628
Are either any good for your purposes?

>>18507415
It’s not what I’d call Hermes material, I still think the Jardin and TDH line are most emblematic of their brand philosophy.
>>18507598
I was once part of a team designing a collection of Attars for a very large fragrance house I am sure you have heard of before. We created some wonderful scents but unfortunately the project went nowhere. If you’re looking for the traditional Middle Eastern, and not the more complex European kind, you should concentrate on finding all natural attars using real, unadulterated oud oil (preferably southeast Asian) and using sandalwood oil as a carrier. If you don’t mind a synthetic attar, Amouage has a very interesting selection.

>>18507643
Right now I'm looking at Bortnikoff. Some people here say he's a hack but I'm enjoying the sample I got today. I also was looking at Areej le Dore after that other anon's post. Are you aware of any other brands that use natural oils?

>>18507641
Yes kind of, I don't care much ab environment

>>18507531
Ghost in the Shell by ELDO.

>>18507572
Love this frag, but it doesn’t come off as a tobacco frag to me.

>>18507628
>dark, oppressing, depressing
Tonnerre, Vi Et Armis, perhaps Cœur de Noir. Beaufort has a lot of options in that vein.

>>18507663
Cool. Wrote them down.

>>18507148
changing my name to chadly bradley because I wear both

>>18507531
Fiero by Casamorati

>>18507034 (OP)
Went to mall of america three days in a row and tried a ton of frags: valentino uomo intense, valentino uomo born in roma intense, JPG Le Parfum, dior homme, by the fireplace (disgusting), bleu de chanel, spicebomb, azarro most wanted parfum, jpg elixir, prada black. None stood out to me. I tried Kiehls Original Musk on a whim, absolutely mogs all the previous mentioned frags. Floral opening but the dry down is great it smells the faintest bit soapy. I think people who say it smells like ass actually have bad diet/hygiene.

Don't fall for the season demon. I just wore D&G Velvet Patchouli on a cool summer night and it was amazing. Temperature trumps season so just experiment and wear what calls to you the most. Just don't overspray.

Noob here...bought some Montblanc Explorer for my Hinge dates this fall :)

>>18507713
The blurb is probably legit but it reminded me of Creed lol

>>18507500
>charge $350 for 100ml
>get people asking:
>>Are they innovative
>>Are they complex
>>Is there anything to be gained as a hobbyist in exploring them
It's value-based pricing, you wouldn't ask any of these questions if it wasn't for the price. The only thing that matters is if it smell good and if it's worth the price. No, I have not smelled any of them, and no I don't plan to.

>>18507500
most of the lineup are just freshies with citrus being the top note which isnt exactly groundbreaking. they are meant to appeal to people who dont really know or care much about fragrance and just want to smell good

4ty>>18507719
Good choice, hope you have fun with your dates anon <3

Is the modern reformulation of Dali Pour Homme worth it? I heard it's basically an entirely different fragrance compared to the original (vintage) formula.

>>18507609
have to be there when it releases, they sell out within minutes/hours. but so far only the sets have been released, the bottles have yet to go on sale. ETA unknown, he has to fix shipping to the USA first. with a bit of patience you can probably find bottles om the secondary market but beware of scammers
>>18507649
personally not a big fan of bortnikoff. agar aura, (old) ensar oud, areej le dore (check descriptions, he sometimes uses synthetics), sultan pasha and mellifluence are good. check out the ouddicts forum if you really want to get into it
>>18507784
haven't smelled the vintage, but the current version smells good

>>18507509
You're welcome.
>>18507633
>60% off
>random website
>on a memo frag
Best of luck, if I were you I'd also get a sample from somewhere reputable so you can compare it with whatever you bought and make SURE it's the genuine frag.
>>18507528
Is this description about the actual scent or only about how it feels to you?
Judging by the notes and reviews it doesn't seem to smell anything like Sauvage.

>>18507717
Right. Encre Noire A L'Extreme is great for warm weather. It's woody but not sweet, and the bergamot pops in the heat, while in winter it's barely noticeable.

Is Pasha de Cartier Parfum good?

Is the new Explorer Extreme good

>>18507807
i already tested it so i remember
also, it has 4.6/5 on trust pilot and all bad reviews are concerned with shipping and not credibility
also searching around ive found many memo paris perfumes for half the price

Anyone tried Loewe 7? Even when I look it up I only find stuff about cobalt 7 and other Loewe fragrances, I liked it when I tried it, my only fear is that I would get tired of it, it is a bit dry.

>>18507954
It's pretty good but nothing I'd want to wear every day.

Anyone tried Loewe Esencia Elixir?

>>18507977
Yeah I get that. My mom said that I might get tired of it or something. Maybe I'll try the cobalt, I was a bit noseblind at that point so it smelled pretty similar

>>18507954
Dont be afraid babygirl. I'll protect you.

Perfect for a warm sunny saturday

>>18507980
The EdP is my main signature frag and I wear it year-round. The Elixir smells pretty similar but a bit darker, a bit more depth, a bit more smoky, a bit more earthy, a bit more ambery. A bit less fruity and overall a bit less fresh. I prefer fresher frags overall so the EdP is my favorite but the Elixir is very nice too. The difference isn't very big. One fits better in spring, the other in fall, but both can be worn pretty much whenever. You can also see it as the EdP being the day version and the Elixir the evening/night version.

>>18508004
Cobalt was a weird one for me. It fluctuated between really nice and kinda musty. Something kept me from really liking it. But give it a try.

>>18507775
Thank you

>>18508089
I'm at the mall and I just tried cobalt, I liked it but it seems a bit generic, I've smelled similar stuff, but I get why it's apparently more popular than the 7, it has way wider appeal and it's safer, as an aside, it's crazy how 7 is just an edt I sprayed it on my hand and it looks really oily and it's also super strong
While I'm here I'll also try the essencia since you say it's your main frag

>>18507807
It’s got the same ambroxan “everywhere in the air” mineral thing going on and feels fresh and masculine but yeah it’s like an inverse of sauvage otherwise which is why everything after emotionally unavailable sounded nothing like sauvage. It smells paradoxically like a sad virgin who slays pussy which makes sense with the vampire comparisons others have made

>>18508119
How similar is it to other bisch frags? Does it have that weird synthetic vibe?
>fresh and masculine
Isn't it an earthy petrichor rose scent?

>>18508127
>How similar to other Bisch scents
Haven’t tried any other ones unfortunately, just started getting into non “mall” fragrances
>Isn’t it an earthy petrichor rose scent
Yes but bafflingly the most distinct smell it has is “cough drop”, camphorous and menthol-y and pepper sharp-but-soft ocean breeze coolness, but a cough drop that dies down to become something like a dying lover’s kiss. Inky, mineralic, inoffensive but inexplicably charged, like a will o the wisp. It does also somehow smell like a wet rose or an old mossy log but what I get the most is sea breeze. It smells basically just like a wet rose on a sandy trail to me with a little extra menthol oomph, but I do think the calypsone et al might read as overly synthetic to some

>>18508138
Huh. This sounds slightly similar to what he did for the Kenzo line. I might get a sample set

>>18508138
It also has a certain heavy darkness (decaying moss log) that reminds me of some of my Arab father’s colognes, I assume the vetiver + patchouli, but still manages to feel fleeting and breezy and gentle, like it’s masking some deep moral collapse that happened a long time ago
>>18508140
Couldn’t recommend it enough, such a versatile but still interesting scent

I like every perfume in my collection. What did I do wrong? Maybe I'm just a noselet.

>>18508143
Try some challenging stuff you're not used to

>>18508143
Post your 5 latest acquisitions

>>18508144
>challenging stuff
>clean tobacco that smells like the projects
>geranium and carnation with straight up fecal and fishy vagina
>real oud and attar that smell like plastic and mechanic shop
The only thing that challenges are sweet scents and the ones in my collection that are a little sweet are as much as I would care for.

>>18508143
post collection

>>18508175
>>clean tobacco that smells like the projects
which frag

>>18507333
CH Mystery Tobacco, although it does start out very tobacco-ey it mellows out after about 30 minutes to something warm and sweet. Definitely one to sample, especially given the price of it.

>>18508143
post collection, but the collection should all be things YOU like, not necessarily something everyone likes

I want to smell like a luxury hotel lounge
Any recs?

>>18508204
Santal 33, Fico di Amalfi/Phylosophikos, Gypsy Water.

>>18508211
>Santal 33
I've been wanting to try this one but it's too expensive, even if I liked it I couldn't justify spending that much on a frag

>>18508211
i'd also add Flaneur and Nice Bergamot and Room Service/Dear Polly. they're good lounge scents

Is it worth dumping $20 on a 30ml Oud for Glory or is it just another slop jug

>>18508216
I paid 35 for my 100ml so you're getting ripped off I think
Anyway it's a nice saffron scent if you're into that, doesn't smell as cheap as it is. If you don't like BR540 you won't like it

>>18508218
I like BR540 but it smells like salty sweet pussy so I sold my sample. Maybe I’ll grab it if its less feminine

>>18508233
>smells like salty sweet pussy
hnnnnnggggghh

>>18508233
It's less feminine yeah, still somewhat sweet but less so than BR540. To me it's just saffron with a very slight oud accord

Am I the only one who doesn't sell anything? Is this autism?

>>18508218
Oud for greatness shares many olfactory similarities with Br540, this is because of the core structure is the same. The backbone of OfG is made up of Iso E Super, Cashmeran, Evernyl, Ambroxan and Hedione and Ethyl Maltol, same as Br540. In layman’s terms, OfG is just Baccarat rouge with some Cypriol, superambers and IFFs Oud Oliffac bolted on. It’s surprising how many popular fragrances are very similar to each other.

>>18508265
Ah that's why. How come I don't really smell any oud though? I haven't smelled the Initio but for something named "Oud for Glory" it certainly doesn't live up to it
I know it would never use real oud of course but I mean I don't even smell the synthetic stuff used in Oud Wood or some MFKs

>>18508173
>Crabtree & Evelyn's Patchouli Cologne (not pictured)
>D&G Velvet Wood (not pictured)
>Givenchy Insense
>Armani Mania
>Malle Cologne Bigarade
>>18508185
Eddie Bauer Adventurer has is similar to D&G PH but even less elegant, it smells like Newports and whatever industrial cleaner they use in public housing.
>>18508176
>>18508203
pic related

>>18507915
Was it parfimo?
They also have stuff like Nishane frags going for less than €100 per bottle, if it's that one let me know how it goes, please and thank you.

>>18508273
That top right bottle is nice.

Can you guys explain to me what the difference is between the regular Acqua di Giò line and the Profondo line?

>>18508273
you want to smell very sexy for him?

What's YOUR scent of the season /frag/ and why?

>>18508351
The scent is decent but the bottle is the greatest of all time.
>>18508429
kek

>>18508340
yep! right on the money
sure ill let you posted when it arrives, ill try to check as much as i can (and hope i still remember the smell)
it looks trustworthy enough

What are some other classic/essential fragrances I should know/try? I have these, among others
>jicky
>shalimar
>mitsouko
>grey flannel
>aramis
>knize ten
>kouros
>no5
>cool water
>acqua di gio
>obsession
>terre d’hermes
>4711
>aventus
>BR540
Mostly looking for culturally or historically significant fragrances, both in terms of fashion and society at large as well as within the fragrance world. I’m looking to get these next:
>youth dew
>aromatics elixir
>fahrenheit

cdg Avignon sample came in, I've had it on for about 4 hours and I'm sold. It probably smells different if sprayed from an atomizer, but I love the consistent musty, churchy, incense smell that takes on different nuances throughout its longevity.

>>18508500
Ex Voto > Avignon

Please some good aldehydic fragrances.

Newbie to frags. Have been trying a number of samples in the past few months and looking for new things to try. Not looking for any notes in particular but no normie shit. What I like so far:
ELDO GitS
Heeley Eau Sacree (tried avignon, zagorsk, cardinal, la liturgie and this is still my fav)
Zoologist Moth
CDG Black
CDG Wonderwood

>>18508500
Wait, I remember exactly what it reminds me of. I used to go through and sort a bunch of donated books as part of my job, and it's seriously evocative of what a very old book smells like.

I smelled Y Elixir to see if it was really 'the worst one', and it's actually the best one wtf.

>>18508518
What's it smell like?

>>18508526
Fresh lavender 'laundry' type scent with a synthetic oud and juniper accord that reminds me a lot of Brioni Intense. I liked it far more than Y Parfum or Myslf Parfum, which I also tried.

How’s Guerlain Vetiver’s longevity?

>>18508537
Moderate

>>18508537
So does this have a fresh/clean scent, or is it like poopy dirt?

>>18508536
Did it have a chlorine smell? Someone else likend it to the smell of an ice rink.

>>18508541
It’s clean but not as clean as grey vetiver. Theres a bit of dirty roughness from the tobacco. If you like vetiver its a safe blind buy

>>18508489
This site might interest you, I like the part about what real people had in their vanity, You see a lot of vintage classics:
https://borntobeunicorn.com/category/stars-vanitiesmake-up-casescabinets-in-real-life/

>>18508545
It's dry down is smokey for me, but I don't get the chlorine stuff

>>18508545
I can pick up on what that person is describing, but I didn't get chlorine myself. It's very pleasant to me all around.

Why are spring&summer and fall&winter always lumped together? I think spring&fall are the closest.

I've got a date with an eastern european woman this coming friday, what cologne will have her fuckign WILD for me

>>18508571
Go work in a field or factory for 10 hours and dont shower then dry rub Irish spring bar soap

>>18508570
Seasons are a meme in fragrance. All that matters is if you can wear it when it's over 86 degrees because some fragrances are just a bit much in high heat so you want something light and modest. Everything else is personal preference.

>>18508578
kek, I'm hoping she likes soem man BO because my pits stink while driving no matter what I do

Maybe I need new soap

The only thing unwearable in high heat is gourmandslop. Everything else is adjustable. I personally like wearing oud florals in summer.

>>18508584
more evidence summer is the worst season

>>18508570
Ignore seasons. You can wear the freshest aquatic shit in winter no problem. Only remember to not wear super heavy frags in summer.

>>18508578
aventus to show her you have money

>>18507034 (OP)
Any recommendations
18-19
All year
Arround 20 bucks at burlington
Something I can just put on daily for school-gym and that girls will like
Also I got two recommendations from a friend already these good latafa ramz silver Issey miyake leau dissey

>>18508571
Apparently northern/white women like clean citrusy scents while oriental/mediterranean women like gourmands, ouds and heavy stuff

Kenzo Homme EdT (current version, not Intense) worth like 30 burgers?

https://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Armaf/Club-de-Nuit-Intense-Man-Extreme-Edition-112775.html

Enjoy

>>18508630
20 bucks won't get you much more than reformulated 80's dadfrags. Save up more and get something a little better
I like Acqua Di Gio EdT as an all-arounder.

I have around ten frags and it seems like too much to me, I barely use some of them
How do you guys manage to have an entire collection? Don't some of them go bad eventually? I noticed my bottle of DHI smells weird now.

>>18508657
>confessions of a sissy sprayer

>>18508659
I didn't say I didn't spray enough, I said I barely used some of my frags. Rochas Moustache I've had for more than a year, impulse bought it because of the Tuxedo similarity but I simply never wear it. I have three warm, spicy, sweet frags for winter but end up just using Noir Extreme Parfum because it's the best of them. etc

>>18508657
How long do you have them for? Keep them out of sunlight and humidity. I have around 15 in my collection and the amber-y ones smells even better.

>>18508661
A couple years for most of them. I keep them in my bedroom closet and my bedroom blinds are always closed so they're never exposed to light, however I can't really keep them out of the heat since it's hot here

>>18508662
Could it be that your closet is against a wall? Sometimes the wall heat during summer and conducts to the surrounding furnitures. That's why I had to move in a cabinet in a cooler area. But again summer heat doesn't really mess with fragrances unless it's directly exposed to sunlight or the bottle has a leak.

>>18508668
I think the cap is leaking, that's probably why. The wall is always cool

>>18508657
I have 70 full bottles
A lot of them i got because they were under $100 so I thought "eh not too expensive, why not"

My most expensive is a bottle of first edition vintage Drakkar Noir at $550

this slaps. photorealistic citron developing into a burning tree. like eau de citron noir on steroids

>>18508489
aventus and br540 are neither classic nor essential, the rest is okay
maybe add
>drakkar noir
>antaeus
>brut
>polo green
>eau sauvage
>le male
>guerlain vetiver
you should also check out luca turin's guides (the 2008 guide for the classics, the 2018 guide for newer stuff)

>>18508509
sky crawlers is based
try more stuff from ELDO and CDG

>>18508537
it's okay

>>18508541
it's an adult scent, perfectly fine for most occasions

>>18508570
>Why are spring&summer and fall&winter always lumped together?
they aren't, spring and fall are mentioned together all the time

>>18508571
sauvage parfum, 10 sprays

>>18508630
stop being poor
girls like that more than any fragrance

>>18508637
no

>>18508688
>first edition vintage Drakkar Noir at $550
based retard

>>18508691
>>18508489
i forgot
>chanel pour monsieur edt

What should a submissive boy like me wear to please his master?

>>18507267
> if i was poor
encre noire
encre noire sport
encre noire a lextreme
encre noire indigo
cool water

> if i was ok wealthy
tdh edt
tdh edp intense
tdh parfum
tdh eau givree
cool water

> if im rich
creed himalaya
creed green irish tweed
creed viking
creed royal oud
cool water

>>18508712
i chuckled, ty

>>18507267
fath green water
bogue mem
new york intense
guerlain vetiver
prin saringkarn

>>18508712
Cool Water is not that expensive thoughbeitoalgo desu

>>18507267
Chanel Egoiste/Platinum Egoiste
Dior Dune PH
Hermes Rocabar
Nicolai NYI

So what do these things mean
>aldehydes
>ambroxan
>ambergris

I bought lazy Sunday morning this weekend so I have something to wear for going to bed early

>>18508765
google them
gl;hf

>>18508768
>aldehydes
Soap
>ambroxan
Undetectable scent that has scents of musk or whatever
>ambergris
Smells like shit but in some usage it smells alright

Do you see my issue

>>18508770
yes, you are retarded

>>18508771
This has to be my like 10th year on 4cuck and the only thing I’ve never seen fail is asking a question, getting your answer, and then getting called a retard

More likely than not you are an ugly autist who’s made this their favorite thing so fuck you man, I don’t need to know after all

>>18508780
at least i know how to look up basic notes and aromachemicals using advanced tools like google
>10th year on 4chan
yeah, sure thing, buddy

>>18508781
Oh my lord save me the sight of seeing you suck your dick, I kept the tab open knowing you would lol

>>18508541
It's super clean, but if I spray it on my armpits then the civet note comes through.

I want to smell like the garden of Eden
Like a fruity summer breeze through a luscious palm grove
Are there any frags like this?

>>18508657
>How do you guys manage to have an entire collection?
I like to experiment and they all smell good and different. The hardest part is picking which to wear to match the climate and mood of the day.
>Don't some of them go bad eventually?
I have vintage stuff from the 80s and 90s and they still smell amazing, except for the top notes which might not be what they used to be but certainly nothing foul.

>>18508872
>The best part is picking which to wear to match the climate and mood of the day.
ftfy

>>18508874
True, it's hard to choose but fun and rewarding. Sometimes I bring them all out and sniff each one before settling on a choice.

>>18508829
Fico di Amalfi comes across like that to me

>>18508780
>This has to be my like 10th year on 4cuck
election tourist
>>18508489
every single old guerlain. fougere royal, aramis new west, caron pour un homme and lagerfeld classic

>>18508885
It's nice but has terrible performance

Anything with fig notes has biblical Eden vibes for me >>18508829

>>18508914
The fruit from the tree was a fig after all

>>18508489
Gucci Nobile if you can find it
Lapidus pour Homme
Van Cleef & Arpels pour Homme (Tsar also)

>>18508829
this anon knows: >>18508914
my choice for Garden of Eden vibes is Nicolai Fig Tea (plot twist: it's osmanthus and not fig)

>>18508892
So? Youre not a beastmode obsessed fag are you

>>18508922
I want to be able to still smell my fragrance after a few hours.

>>18508927
Just reapply. You're not poor, are you?

>>18508981
I am kinda

Do you guys try to cover different genres of frags in your rotation? For example for the cold season I like to alternate between woody spicy and gourmand. For the hot season I like to alternate between aquatic freshies and non-aquatic freshies. For moderate temperatures I like to alternate between blue and green scents.
Anyway, can you guys recommend some good aquatic frags? I got all the other genres covered but still missing an aquatic I really love. Preferably clean and crisp and watery. Not powdery or warm. No salt or algae note or something like that.

>>18509010
I find all aquatics lackluster. People are probably going to recommend the Kenzo line to you, the Bisch ones I personally dislike and the EDT is most likely the best you're gonna get as far as aquatics go. But it's still boring.

>>18509010
Jeanne an Provance Acqua. It's a clone of the og Kenzo PH, 10$ is the right price for an aquatic. It smells better than ADG and Bvlgari IMO, like a sea breeze with rose and pine

>>18508691
>based retard
I've verified that it's legit, although i will admit that back then I had more money than sense. Wouldnt bother ever spending that much on a perfume ever again

>>18508992
Fair. Well, Fico di Amalfi is like 30 bucks on fragnet, so it's a good choice even if money's tight

>>18508920
this is for women

>>18508691
You don’t think the two most cloned fragrances of all time are culturally significant? Perhaps not aventus but 540 will likely be retrospectively essential for understanding the fragrance culture and trends of the future.

>>18508691
Thanks, just ordered a shit ton of CDG samples haven't tried. Excited for 2, concrete, and odeur 53/71 among others. Also giving ELDO Hermann and Jasmin et cigarette a try.

>>18508914
What about kenzo edt intense?

Sel D'Issey is the best new aquatic fragrance of the past decade.

>>18509085
Not even close, it's extremely mediocre. I'm not sure why you keep shilling what is one of the most generic, boring releases in recent years

>>18509089
Don't see any other fragrances named in your post so I'll assume you can't name one.

>>18509094
The entire Kenzo line
Wavechild
Oud Minerale
Lorenzo Pazzaglia Black Sea
Aqua Celestia Cologne Forte
Jazmin Yucatan
Hermann
Phtaloblue
Acqua di Sale obviously

just from the top of my head. Sel d'Issey is among Bisch's worst

>>18509010
Check out Loewe Agua El and Missoni Wave.
Ague El is very crisp and watery. Starts out citrusy and fruity, in the mid and base a bit more mossy and woody. Gives it a bit of depth and a more mature edge. Overall still fresh and watery and light.
Wave starts out with a sweet mandarin note. It's creamier and sweeter than Agua El and lacks most of the green and woody aspects of it. Also very watery and fresh but overall a tad less crisp than Agua El. Also it's cheaper.
I enjoy both.

>>18509097
Nobody wears any of those except frag autists

>>18509105
cope

>>18509106
seethe

I do not care for aquatic fragrances. Who want to smell like a cucumber and fish.

>>18509108
>nobody wears Kenzo, Tom Ford and MFK
Ok pajeet. Anyway I accept your concession, enjoy your frag that literally smells like the nondescript waft of perfume you get as you walk past a sephora

>>18509109
Ozonic notes are only good when they're secondary

>>18509113
>oud and rose

>>18509085
it's mid as fuck
>>18509105
nobody is wearing sel d'issey, except for snarky autists like you

So anons, have you found the perfect frag already? The one you would wear for the rest of your life if you had to cut down your collection to only one bottle?

If you had to choose between Middle Eastern style perfumery and French/European style perfumery, which would you pick?

>>18509122
Yes, I have. I still wear others I love for the variety.

>>18509122
Egoiste is the best fragrance of all time, but I like variety and don't want to wear such a heavy fragrance in hot weather.

>>18509122
Guerlain Vetiver
Not even my favourite, it's just so versatile and easy to wear, and performance is decent.

>>18509123
not a fan of arab perfumery at all

>>18508505
Le Cri

Anything from Penhaligons worth checking out? Sartorial has been on my radar for a while.

Anyone like Bois Pacifique? I enjoyed smelling it at the store. First time I've smelled akigalawood used in a way that isn't utterly overpowering.

>>18509147
Smells like coca cola

>>18509150
For sure it does. Though the sweetness is subdued until later in the drydown.

>>18509151
imo it has the same issues as other TFs in that it's a decent scent but way too simple and not impressive enough to justify its price

Is getting Kenzo Intense worth it if I already own the EDP or are they too similar?

>>18509152
That's fair, though at least it's Signature collection so it's slightly less overpried. It's a scent profile I really enjoy (Bentley Absolute, Costume National) so I'd consider getting it on discount.

>>18509036
do you really think that the Garden of Eden smells like a fragrance for men?

>>18509040
nope
aventus is not bad but boring and br540 is slop
maybe interesting for marketing people but that's it

>>18509085
mid

>>18509105
lol retard

>>18509123
i'm okay with both but french perfumery is just better

>>18508505
chanel no5
le cri
gold man

>>18509145
sartorial
their other frags are boring at best

>>18508505
Rien I/II

>>18508505
Dior homme sport

Just blind bought Prada l'Homme EDT

>>18509226
k

>>18509228
Thank you for your attention

>>18509226
i must suck your cock this instant

>>18509234
Only if you are a female (biological)

>>18509235
yeah, good luck with that

>>18509153
EDP is the best in the line don't bother with the flankers.

what's the best all round amouage fragrance? not counting reflection man.

>>18509244
The fig and coconut accords seem like they could be interesting.

NEW THREAD
>>18509248
>>18509248
>>18509248
>>18509248

>>18509245
Dia, Epic, or Portrayal

>>18507267

Guerlain Platine Prive
TdH EdT
Guerlain L'Homme Ideal EdP
MFK Amyris Homme
Gerlain Bois D'Armenie

Guerlain has a LOT of excellent frags.

>>18507333
Ormonde Jayne - Montabaco Cuba
It's a bright easy airy / citrus / dried-tobacco-leaf fragrance

Personally i'm not a fan of Naxos. I understand why it was generally ignored when it came out, and I don't understand the hype. It's almost soapy and it's too floral. it's a weird mix for a tobacco fragrance. Herod is luxurious and I think the best of PdMarley

>>18508273
What does Insense smell like?