Thread 18512024

WATCH THREAD
WATCH THREAD
WATCH THREAD

If you post a Citizen or a Seiko in this thread, your mom will be raped by a pack of black gentlemen tonight.

The place to actually discuss watches, free of avatarfagging drama, including bittercelposting, pics of food or drinks, or long-ass stories about your lives.

>Your budget
>Preferred brand or manufacture
>Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot, etc
>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz, etc
>Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, chronograph, etc
>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet, etc
>Wrist size or desired watch size

Previous thread: >>18507046

Kofe time.

>>18512024 (OP)
NEW THREAD

>>18512036
That's one ugly watch.

>>18512039
Once again, let's see yours.

>>18512040
I don't need to post my watches to know this Omega is beyond ugly (the proportions are off, too much empty space, hands are too thin relatively to the dial, etc).
It's also too big for your wrist.

>>18512047
>I don't need to post my watches to know
yes you do in fact
otherwise we'll keep disregarding your opinion as the one of some poorfag with a comical seiko quartz who mistakenly thinks he's qualified to judge watches or anything at all
nothing worse than a poorfag running his mouth

>>18512077
>yes you do in fact
No I don't, actually.
I come here to discuss watches, not flex on your ass.

>>18512036
The Globemaster is the single most disappointing watch I ever owned. Omega just fucked so many things up with it.

I absolutely loved the looks (I had a blue dial version), and the accuracy, the jumping hour complication. The lume lasted forever.

The problems were the proportions: the lugs were short but stuck straight out making the watch feel thicker than it was. The caseback showing a machine finished movement actually made it thicker than it needed to be.
It didn’t have a screw down crown. Why on earth not?

But the thing that killed it for me was the bracelet. That was the WORST bracelet I’ve ever experienced on any watch. Thick, heavy, non-tapering, sharp inner edges, absolutely no micro-adjustment or even any fucking half-links. Why?!

Another nitpick, that didn’t bother me much, but I wish it wasn’t there was the name. I know the story behind Globemaster but Constellation is one of Omega’s pillars. Call it the Constellation Classic or something if you want to differentiate it from the Connies that the Asian market loves. (Obviously just put Constellation on the dial, not Classic)

>>18512098
>No timestamp
Lol nice try

>>18512077
Is the globemaster considered an expensive watch? Nothing worse than a larpy fag with an entry level watch 'flexing' on poors.

I like the globemaster btw one of omegas better looking watches

>>18512145
>Is the globemaster considered an expensive watch?
That depends entirely upon your discretionary spending budget.
It’s not cheap within the Omega catalog. The Rolex Datejust it is positioned against is a little more expensive.

The issue is that it is quite a bit more expensive than other similar Omega watches that have the same movement and similar features, vis-a-vis the Aqua Terra.

>>18512145
>>18512147
They haven’t done anything with the collection since it was first launched ten years ago. The core models are still only available in blue or silver dials.
It feels like the series has been discontinued and they’ll keep it on the books until they sell their remaining stock.

>>18512145
I'm not the one who posted the globemaster but I loathe when some faggot shows up and calls whatever few watches were posted ugly/shit then walks away without ever contributing anything and calls that "discussing watches" even though we've seen his boxes more often that whatever POS is inside of them, if anything at all
that's how we end up with threads reaching bump limit with a grand total of 30 watches posted for the better threads
if all you have to contribute is calling stuff shit you better post stuff you actually own because it sure as fuck isn't any better

>>18512253
Oldest scam here:

>anon posts a pic of a watch
>that is a shitter
>you have no taste and/or are poor
>post your watch
>you post yours first
>ok, here’s my watch, now you post yours
>haha, I tricked you into posting your shitty watch, trololololol.

Which watch do I wear on my date later, Seiko SSK003, Glycine Combat classic moonphase, or Hamilton khaki flight timer?

>>18512291
Get a Citizen The Citizen by Citizen.

>>18512293
No, sorry, when I said “date” I meant with a woman, not a crusty anime bodypillow. But thanks for your recommendation. If I ever hit rock bottom, I’ll keep it in mind.

>>18512301
Projecting & you can't afford it anyways.

Who makes the best Rolex super clones currently?

>>18512307
>y-you’re poor
I accept your concession. Sorry your feelings got hurt.

>>18512291
STOP ARGUING WHICH ONE DO I WEAR I CANT DECIDE

>>18512024 (OP)
Are there any copes for this watch?
I like it but the price is fucking insane

>>18512320
>Casio F91w

>>18512324
I don't have one YET

>>18512316
Well, to be honest, bro, you went on this bizarre oddball tangent defense when I recommended a better timepiece.
I hope for your own sake, you grow up as a person one day.

>>18512338
Are you not getting enough responses in /wt/ that you need to come here? You have the whole thread to post in. Honestly, I can’t understand, but I wish I did.
I wish there was some certain string of words we could type that would make you truly understand and respect the fact that we don’t want you here.

>>18512321
>Are there any copes for this watch?
Not really. It’s a very distinctive watch so anything else would be not even close. Panerai have come way down in price lately but the special models like that one still command a premium due to their rarity.

It’s just one of those things.

>>18512342
Sorry? Who's this "we"?
Just because you can't accept a watch from a brand you dislike for some non logical reason, doesn't mean I'm in the wrong place here. This is a watch thread. If you want a Glycine only thread, you should make one and hang in there by yourself. Or better yet, seek brand specific discussions in WUS or something. There really is no need for your reaction here.

>>18512036
Everytime you post that shit, you get roasted.
WTF man, are you a masochist or something?

>>18512342
They make fun of him in /wt/ too, that is, when they’re not ignoring him.

>>18512346
Your fake concern trolling is pointless since we (meaning every poster in this thread) know exactly who you are and why you’re spamming your watch.

This thread was specifically created so that you could avatarpost in your own thread, yet you are the ONLY one of those posters who feels the need to post here too. Not Onegadrunk, not Whoretadello, just you.
You should ask yourself why that is.

>>18512347
To be fair >>18512101 gave a pretty good breakdown of the watch without trying to make anyone else feel bad.

i like his posts and his shitizen

Would it be worth it to get a Franck Muller if you were 100% sure it wasn’t a fake?

>>18512352
I'm not an avatarposter though, my posts are always on subject.

>>18512358
Fakes are 100% the same as real ones so I would only get it if I was 100% sure it was a fake.

>>18512360
You post from a recognizable set of pictures so that everyone knows who you are: that’s exactly what avatarposting is. Whether or not it’s on topic is irrelevant. It’s still avatarposting.

>>18512366
>Fakes are 100% the same as real ones so I would only get it if I was 100% sure it was a fake.
Well, not the ones that are precious metal with tourbillons or other complications.

I think they look pretty cool but I would never buy one.

>>18512368
You're free to think what you want, but that doesn't make it true.

>>18512368
Stop replying to him.
He’s in this thread because the other thread doesn’t give him any (You)s. They just ignore him until he goes away.

>>18512358
Are there many Franck Muller reps to begin with? If you like the style it's all that matters

>>18512360
at the end of it all, you spent way too much on a solar quartz watch. so it loses less than 1 second of time a year? is your time that valuable that you can reset the time once a month or so? I would say it isn't cause youre fucking posting on 4chan gtfo

Is the solar quartz seiko Pogue worth the cost or should I get an original one instead?

>>18512379
There used to be, especially of the simpler time-only models. They were never actually that good.
There were stories about Franck Muller themselves or one of his business partners selling FM branded watches with undecorated Russian movements, but that was a long time ago.

>>18512386
Get an original. It’s one of the most historically significant Seikos. They’re a little pricey but they’re still very easy to service.

>>18512047
It's a 39mm case and I have 7 inch wrist. It most certainly is not too big. The the angle in the picture makes it seem that way.

>>18512101
This is a fair assessment. I can only sort of agree with the bracelet part. The lack of micro adjust or half links is annoying but I have a bigger wrist and found a good spot. It can be a little loose sometimes but as soon as I start using my hands or go outside the wrist fills it up nicely. I don't feel the sharp edges you mentioned though.

To each his own I don't get the name hate. It doesn't actually mean anything to me beyond the story.

What's funny is this is the only style from Omega that I liked besides the heritage Seamaster 300.
https://www.omegawatches.com/watch-omega-seamaster-300-co-axial-master-chronometer-41-mm-23430412101001


>>18512098
Even if that was real and you pulled a Rolex out of that box it would only prove you're an NPC.

>>18512145
> Is the globemaster considered an expensive watch?
Expense is a relative term. Relative to most watches the Globemaster is quite expensive. They've upped the MSRP to $8,300 but I got it for $7,900, which is probably $600 more than it should be. It is priced comparatively with the Rolex Explorer 40mm.

>>18512147
> The issue is that it is quite a bit more expensive than other similar Omega watches that have the same movement and similar features, vis-a-vis the Aqua Terra.
I didn't realize the Aqua Terra was so much less. Given it has the same movement yet lacks the features of the Aqua Terra the pricing is quite odd.

>>18512293
I like the black paper dial one. Some people shit on it because it is a $2k quartz but its honestly the best quartz.

>>18512389
What are the risks of buying an old Seiko? Is the movement super inaccurate and hard to work on/fin parts for? I have been eyeballing a 1960s Seiko Weekdater.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=seiko+weekdater&_sacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2332490.m570.l1312

ITT: post watches which are better than the Shitizen

>>18512406
Wearing an old Seiko carries no more or less risk than any other old watch. The movement itself is quite simple and robust for an automatic integrated chronograph and most independent watchmakers can service it and replace parts as needed.
If I bought one and had it completely overhauled, I’d have no issue wearing it as a daily watch.

>>18512401
>Expense is a relative term. Relative to most watches the Globemaster is quite expensive. They've upped the MSRP to $8,300 but I got it for $7,900, which is probably $600 more than it should be
They go for 4K on chrono24, unpopular watch no one should buy MSRP for.

>you pulled a Rolex out of that box it would only prove you're an NPC.
Rolex are popular because they have great designs.
Better be an NPC and buy a Ferrari rather than a Fisker because you want to be a special snowflake

>>18512407
okay, you first

>>18512407
Hamilton Khaki Field was my first but I ended up losing it. It's best selling point was the features you could get for the money. Back when I bought one it was like $400 and you got 10 bar, sapphire crystal, and a good enough Swiss movement. It did magnetize really easy. At the current $800 is that watch still worth it? I'm not so sure given the other options at the price point.

>>18512416
Buy the Murph

>>18512412
>Rolex are popular because they have great designs.
It’s not just that. They are also extremely reliable. They can take a beating. They are very comfortable.
Plus, there are Rolex ADs all over the place, so you never have to worry about what to do when the watch needs service.
>service a Rolex. Takes four weeks from the day I drop it off and it costs exactly what they said it would.
>Service a Vacheron. Takes eight months longer than their initial two month estimate and costs twice as much as the estimate.
As NPC as they are, they also make the ownership experience friction free.

>>18512412
>They go for 4K on chrono24, unpopular watch no one should buy MSRP for.

I understand it is unreasonable but I don't buy used things.

>Rolex are popular because they have great designs.
Not saying I wouldn't get one but a lot of that is branding and artificial scarcity for NPCs. If you are wearing a Rolex, and you aren't an old man, my first thought is you either paid scalp prices for it because you weren't deemed worthy by the store or I would wonder how hard you sucked the retailers dick to get it.

>Better be an NPC and buy a Ferrari rather than a Fisker because you want to be a special snowflake

This is exactly what I am talking about.

>>18512417
Only the smaller one. The original is a dinner plate.

>>18512430
Sorry but ANY Rolex they sell right now is better than your Globemaster, better design better everything, OPs, Explorer, Datejust any of them.
Omega can only compete against Rolex starting from the AquaTerra and up, but the Globemaster, the Railmaster, the DeVille are not base luxury level.

>>18512430
>my first thought is you either paid scalp prices for it because you weren't deemed worthy by the store or I would wonder how hard you sucked the retailers dick to get it.
This really isn’t true anymore. It’s not 2022. The wait lists are just for a small handful of models now. (The ones you don’t want because they’re just for hype beasts anyway.)
Most ADs I’ve been to in the last few years have had a bunch of pieces in stock. OPs, DJs, Exp1 and 2, even Subs.

>>18512430
>Better be an NPC and buy a Ferrari rather than a Fisker because you want to be a special snowflake
But a Globemaster isn’t the equivalent of a Fisker. That would be something like a DeBethune or Laurent Ferrier. An Omega is closer to a Corvette or Mustang GT.

>>18512435
You being mad about it doesn't make it not an NPC watch.

>>18512436
Maybe where you are I guess because that has not been the story everywhere I have gone. Every Rolex store I have been to in the past 6 months gave me the same "we'll put you on the list" story for an Explorer 40mm. All of them said they had nothing in stock with the exception of just one that had a single chocolate dial Date Just.

>>18512440
I wasn't making that argument, just pointing out the NPC mentality to that Anon.

>>18512446
Ok, my mistake.

Why are you defending your watch so hard, though? If you like it, that should be all that matters, right?
(I’m the former owner ITT who hated the bracelet.)

I own my fair share of odd/polarizing pieces that most conventional watch guys hate, but I’m not forcing them to wear them.
Just relax, especially here, where even posting a Patek will get someone calling it shit.

>>18512448
I am not defending it that hard and have admitted that you gave a fair criticism. I am only defending it from the anon(s) that come in here, talk shit and won't post theirs while they use things like Rolex and Ferrari as examples.

>you're an NPC for wearing a Rolex
>by the way, here's my Omega

>>18512453
Fuck, he posted a wojak. I guess i'll stop believing my lying eyes.

>>18512453
Omega at least are inovating with the co-axial, Rolex have been straight up releasing dogshit for the past 30 years such as The Yatchmaster 2, DJ 41, modern Air King, Sky-dweller and Land-dweller

>>18512452
It's not reddit, if you want your safespace and people trying to flex to a captive audience, it's there.
Trying to justify your 8k purchase is funny tho, sound like regrets.
If you had to do it again, would you still chose that Globemaster?

>>18512467
>Omega at least are inovating with the co-axial
kek, the co-axial movement is like 40 years old

>>18512458
Anon, Omega is the second biggest sports watch brand after Rolex. They're the official timekeeper of the Olympics, they spend hundreds of millions on advertisement and celebrity endorsement and the Speedmaster is one of the most popular watches ever made. You're not wearing a watch from some obscure microbrand.

>>18512470
Again, just because you're mad doesn't change the situation. The projection on full display is always entertaining though.

>>18512452
>and won't post theirs
That’s not how this works, though.
Picrel does not make my opinion any more or less valid.
If someone just says “shitter” you ignore them. If they put together a coherent critique, it should not matter if they own something equally or more expensive.

>>18512467
>rolex
>omega
>innovative
lol, lmao

>>18512479
> You're not wearing a watch from some obscure microbrand.
That was never my point but thanks for barging into a conversation half way through

i- is that a b- box...?

At last, I am the proud owner of a SWISS MADE™ watch! :'^)

>>18512496
The colors don't make you feel like a man wearing a child's watch?

>>18512499
don't worry abt it unc

>>18512389
This
>>18512406
The one Ive got is from the same time period and has no issues, but obviously it depends on who owned it before you, look for a good seller with lots of reviews and at least a 99% positive ebay profile. Also watch some youtube videos about them, lots of good channels have vids about the pogue, they will explain what to look out for in a good model

>>18512346
Truth bombs dropped

>>18512293
That's a very nice piece

>>18512412
Wtf that omega is 8K?
Are they nuts?

>>18512406
They work. The rotor bearings might be a bit tired on some but other than that I don't know of any other glaring weaknesses.

>>18512406
>Vietnam
Hmmm, I'd be wary. Try to find one from the continent that you're on so as to avoid customs. If not possible then Japan definitely has the best preserved examples, but you'll get screwed by customs and import fees. Hong Kong maybe.
DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, BUY WATCHES FROM INDIA, EVER!
Worth repeating every now and then.

>>18512610
Whats wrong with watches from India?

Date or day date?

>>18512674
the wings and the stars are not enough, they should draw a dick on this dial, then a pair of balls at 9.

>>18512674
Rather have neither but just the date looks better imo. I find them to be a pain in the ass especially when there's multiple watches in your rotation it ends up feeling like a burden more.

>>18512293
>$4000 watch
Yeah I'm too poor for that. I'm sticking with Tissot

I'll never pay more than 400$ for a watch, if I want something that looks cool I will buy a chinese clone made of the same shit as yours but has a silly little name instead.

kino quartz movement

>>18512730
Yeah, watch parts for Swiss brands, microbrands and sub $100 Chinese brands are made in the same Chinese factories. It doesn't matter anymore.

I frequently come into contact with people who wear “luxury” watches and my findings concerning who wears which brand so far have been:

Rolex: people who don’t know anything about watches but they want to flash their money. They’re usually fine people who don’t mind they’re just paying for the name. If they have a collection it will be primarily mall shitters they overpaid for.

Omega: generally cool people and more interested in talking about watches than the other luxury watch owners.

Breitling: Asians and pajeets. They’re generally very stuck up, particularly the Asians and they both treat their belongings very poorly.

IWC: douchebag pilots generally. They’ve got their nose up their own asses.

Panerai: I’ve only met one Panerai owner and he was a bigger douche than the IWC guys. My sample size of one is inclusive.

Frédérique Constantin: businessman generally and generally very easy to get along with.

>chad wears rolex
Rolex gets you the most pussy doesnt it

Why is Omega like "that"? Why are they doing this? What even is this supposed to be?

>>18512826
it looks great though

only thing that bothers me about AT is it has cloth stitching on a watersports watch

>>18512826
If Moser made this same dial for 20,000 you'd be soifacing over it

>>18512828
>it looks great though
It looks like the Aqua Terra going through its early 2000s emo phase. Absolutely ridiculous.
>>18512829
Moser is the cringiest brand out there. The fact they've made a collab with Studio Underdog (excuse me, "Underd0g") says it all.

KYS both.

>>18512826
To catch up with the Chinese brands.

>>18512782
>Rolex gets you the most pussy doesnt it
more like the most gold diggers

>>18512778
So people who wear luxury watches are douche-bags? Imagine my shock

>>18512024 (OP)
Let's say I'm a poorfag, and I don't really care about showing off, but I like the aesthetics of some iconic watches.

What are your thoughts on certain chinese brands like Octopus Kraken, Cronos or Addiesdive? I don't really care about the heritage of certain brands, all I want is something that can give me 80-90% of the original without feeling scammed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTVwDfHu_A0

>"buy a casio you poorfag"
I already own a Casio

>>18512978
Personally i don't go for homages not because i don't like them, au contraire, they are mostly well made and offer superior value compared to shitizens, soikos and casios, but because of that occasion when someone goes "wow is that a rolex? oh". Even though i know that 100% of the people do not care about watches and nobody will ever say something like this.

>>18512978
big mistake. maybe some of those are OK but you have to try it yourself before you buy it and you can't do that unless you're in china. same goes for any watch even casio but especially china cos most of it is photoshopped trash.

you really can't tell how a wrist watch will wear on your hand from pictures

Can you get a better caliber for 2.5k?

>>18513057
I couldn't care less about muh caliber. Only thing that matters is how the watch looks and matches my personal aesthetic.

>>18513064
Caliber is a part of the watch and therefore how it looks is important and that yema caliber looks beautiful.

>>18512978
The inner clasp of the Rolex looks atrocious, like they have forgotten about it.

>>18513057
Yema has the worst customer service and quality control out of any watches including the Pakistani street watches.

>>18512978
My $190 Chinese watch (after discount) has better QC alignment than my Seiko Presage. Just continue to look for negative reviews and decide from there.

>>18513089
This is the kind of shit people say in these threads without ever bringing proof of anything. Have you ever had a bad experience with Yema, or are you just parroting what some other anon said 6 months ago? A while ago people were saying this about Zenith because one guy online had a terrible experience with their customer service, and it suddenly became a general rule that Zenith was just awful in every way possible.

ENTER

>>18513174
for me its the sunny side up watch

>>18513100
Its almost as if companies can lose brand value based on reviews from users online or something. Be real, is there ANY company these days that does have good customer service? Theyre all shit, and they all deserve to be called out. Every customer service center in india should be drone struck, and the person who outsourced them in the first place should be strapped to the missile.

>>18513089
I wanted to get one of their rallygrafs. Outside of customer service, is there anything wrong with Yema?

>>18513100
>>This is the kind of shit people say in these threads without ever bringing proof of anything.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/comments/1dvoidv/yema_whats_your_opinion_on_the_brand_anyone_has/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/comments/1cqvo8c/yema_rallygraf_massive_qc_issues/
https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/yema-a-truly-disappointing-experience.5403398/
https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/yema-customer-service.5492100/?post_id=56579773&nested_view=1&sortby=oldest#post-56579773

>>18513191
>b-b-b-but all brands have bad customer service!!!
Then why specifically mention Yema? If every brand has terrible customer service, then this should be discussed constantly here as soon as someone post a watch, right?
>>18513233
>go to Google
>type in "[brand]+bad customer service"
>post 4 examples
>"AH! I WIN"
Now do the same with Seiko, IWC, Jaeger-LeCoultre, Patek, Rolex. People only talk about the bad stuff.

>>18513262
'sup Yema. Send me a free watch that actually works and I'll shill for you if you want.

>>18513265
I don't even like Yema, I think they're ugly.

>>18512407
while i love the design i have to admit its pretty shitty watch for its pricepoint.

-endlink fitting is horrible
-bracelet is cheap as fuck
-brushing of case and bracelet t not match
-the AR coating is a joke
-no screwdown crown

thats not acceptable on a $800 watch. ive seen chinese homage watches with better bracelets and crystals. but damn its beautiful.

>>18513329
>>18512407
I would've bought it a long time ago if it wasn't called "Khaki" (shitty).

My wife told me that if I ever got a casio or seiko she was going to cheat on me, he called the brands 'icky'

>>18513329
If they could get it down to 38mm diameter and get the brushing on the lugs straight to libe up with the brushing on the bracelet, plus MAYBE general modernization improvements like toolless micro adjust on the bracelet and AR coating on the crystal, this would be a perfect watch.

(also I wish it had brighter lume, and also blue lume instead of green.)

>>18513333
>he

>>18513351
holy fug

>>18512346
I actually can't argue with this logic. This is a watch thread and you're just posting a very nice watch and your pics are of the highest quality, too.

>This guy calls your watch a shitter
How do you react?

>>18513355
Freudian shitpost

>>18512346
>>18512338
>>18512307
>literally no dial finishing
>on a watch that is +2k
How did Citizen get away with it?

My nigga Hunter Biden wearing a Moonswatch.

>>18513349
And if they kept the price the same. Those “new features” would cause the price to rise and no one would mention that those features were just bringing the watch in line with its original price.

>>18513612
I'd buy it because it would be an amazing watch and the mall jewelry store you're buying it in will probably knock a few hundred off anyway to get the sale.

>>18513612
I don't think they skip AR coating because they worry about the price. I think they consciously make that choice to make the watches shinier.

I am giving up and buying a clone with a dingdonger movement :3

>>18512293
Is it just me or does this look like a completely unremarkable 50$ mall watch?

Swatch

>>18512291
Post photos, preferably wrist shots

>>18512623
They're all frankenwatches.

Redpill me on the P.5000 movement

New grail dropped

>>18513973
Looks fucking boring like other patek, rolex, omegas.
>>18513174
I can respect these guys for at least trying something new.

>>18513746
no fucking shit, even san shartin has better finishing
then again san shartin beat rolex too lmfao

>>18513973
Thank you reddit

I'm looking for a cheaper alternative to the Sinn 556
Thoughts on the Christopher Ward C63 and the Lorier Falcon II?

>>18512496
i like it, i was going to get the darker one but chose not to get it because im just too old for it.

>>18514023
They really didn't.

>>18514070
Why would you not get what you want when the difference is so small? You'll just want the thing you originally had in mind after getting that shit.

In any case, spending that much money on this shit is stupid, but what you're thinking about doing is even more so.

What is this watch from Dexter Resurrection?

Bro is there any other watch that looks like this?

serica 6190

>>18514135
Ixdao or Tandorio chinese brands have a copy.

>>18514137
Is it plastic? I never owned a chink fake before

>>18514141
https://youtu.be/jIJV38nhpPs

The Ixdao has the SW200, ETA2824 and PT5000 options. Tandorio is half the price of the IXDAO. Just check the negative reviews of both.

>>18514070
Milifortic has a copy of the Sinn.

"Assembled in Switzerland" is the proper dial print on luxury Swiss brand dials, not "Swiss Made".

>>18514108
Because it's not a small difference, it's 500 EUR more, over 50% more than the others. Unless of course I get the Sinn with a leather strap, then it's much cheaper. But I want the metal bracelet. Also why the fuck is the bracelet so expensive

>>18514183
I don't want chinkslop knockoffs

>>18514277
Correction, the Lorier is actually cheaper than I thought so in its the Sinn is twice as much, even more of a difference

>>18514277
>>18514280
sorry but you're an idiot, you won't buy the watch you want just to save a few hundos but you're going to waste 700€ on some microshitter you don't even like AND you won't buy the chinkshit cope either that would actually save you money, completely irrational penny pinching behavior
you'll end up down 700€ with some unsellable chinese made microshitter and unsatisfied with your purchase too, literally cucking yourself

i want

>>18514372
...what? Neither of the other two are Chinese made and I like both of them as well, otherwise I wouldn't select them, and the savings are quite significant
Retard

i want

I WANT

>>18514370
It looks cool on cool people but not everybody can pull it off, it's very dressy.

>>18514443
What the fuck is wrong with breitlings bracelet?
Am i the only one who sees that it is lopsided?

>>18514444
>it's very dressy.
Not really. It has the same level of "dressiness" as a Datejust.

>>18514446
done on purpose for what ever reason
even the 7-link navitimer bracelets are slanted if you look close

>>18514277
>it's not a small difference, it's 500 EUR more,
?
You earn that much in like a day, what are you on about? Do you not have rental properties or anything?

>>18514400
>Neither of the other two are Chinese made

>>18514447
they are way dressier because of their polished surfaces and because of the roman numerals.

I like how it looks.
Objectively kind of a shitty watch with the integrated bracelet with non-articulated links and the 14mm thickness and all the pointless diver larping features but it's pretty cool looking, one of the few divers I like.

>>18514070
Totally agree with the other anons, those three watches are in the same price bracket.
NEVER BUY A COPE unless it's a watch that you will never be able to afford in your life (like a 50k watch).

And you can get the Sinn for 1k on chrono24, so your copes make zero sense.
>Sinn 556 on chrono24 (as new, box and papers) = 1k
>Christopher Ward C63 = 1k
>Lorier Falcon II = shit watch that looks like an Explorer cope, horrible branding, horrible watch = 650

Get the Sinn or don't even bother.

>>18514472
>Get the Sinn or don't even bother.
Right?
How long could it possibly take to save up another 400 bucks if you’re already thinking of buying a thousand dollar watch?
There’ll be like two or three weeks max where you’ll like your budget shitter before you realize you could have had the watch you actually wanted if you had just waited a little longer.
Instead, you’ve got a watch you no longer want, can’t sell, and you’re further than ever from your goal.

>>18514472
????
The only Sinn identical to the one I posted (No numerals, red second hand, h link bracelet) is 1500 on chrono, same as the new price
>>18514463
Shit anime
>>18514489
I can afford it just have more important things to spend the money on, it would be quite financially irresponsible of me
I don't need it i just want it, it's living rent free in my head

>>18514491
>>I can afford it just have more important things to spend the money on
Then your poor and can't afford shit lmfao.

>>18512778
asians and jeets are mainly rado

i literally never seen an asian with a breitling ever when in my south east asia sex tours, only rado, casio and other fake shitters

>>18514491
>The only Sinn identical to the one I posted (No numerals, red second hand, h link bracelet) is 1500 on chrono
You 're trolling at this point
https://www.chrono24.fr/sinn/full-set--id37827890.htm
1K
https://www.chrono24.fr/sinn/556--id40767292.htm
1K

>>18514491
>I'm ready to buy a totally different watch (that's a shitter with a fork second hand and some miscellanious logo) but not the exact same watch with a white hand instead of a red one
just fuck you, next.

>>18514550
One doesn't have the meta bracelet and the other doesn't have the red second hand
>>18514557
Yes that would actually be peak self chucking. The exact thing you want but with one detail missing that'll drive you mad. I'd literally rather just have a different watch at that point

I like this.

What's a good Cartier tank alternative you guys would recommend?

>>18514653
What's your budget?

>>18514655
1k and under

>>18514653
I don't have one but I quite like the look of these quartz shitters, plenty of them for cheap on ebay, Seiko Credor 6730

>>18514655
Just get a rep. There's zero difference between a real and a fake tank.
Quartz is quartz, no worry about servicing it either.

How do I make sure I'm not getting a fake form chrono24?

>>18514803
what's wrong with fakes, they're made in the same factory

>>18514803
If a watch popular enough and mechanically simple enough for convincing fakes to exist you desperately need to refine your taste in watches
>I just got into watches 6 months ago and I love the santos, the black bay and the speedmaster
is a sad stage to be at

>>18514813
>>18514867
God I hate you useless fucking niggers

>>18512829
Big difference between lacquer and fumé enamel

>>18514113
>What is this watch from Dexter Resurrection?
Anyone?

ROYAL FUCKING OAK BABY

>>18514964
Not really.

>>18515060
;)

>>18514803
Just buy from a trusted seller and check their reviews. Some of them have a "Partner certified" thing.
Chrono24 is pretty safe, even though you'll find some funky shit sometimes (redials, frankenwatches, etc). Just learn your stuff before buying and you'll be alright.

Anyone else other than Casio and Seiko makes solar radio watches?

>>18515159
citizen, tag heuer and tissot

citizen is probably the best if you go for their THE CITIZEN line

>>18514962
Easily the best watch in this thread.
I will never understand why anyone would get anything else for that money.

>>18515219
Because it looks cheap, bloated, ugly, overdesigned... It's also a Credor, a brand that has 0 coolness and gives off incel vibes.

>>18514803
>How do I make sure I'm not getting a fake form chrono24?
The common saying is “Buy the seller, not the watch.”

Do they answer questions freely or are they cagey?
Do they have good pictures or grainy?
How is their seller feedback? Are they brand new?
Are they selling at a price too good to be true?
Do they have a return policy?

>>18514867
>>I just got into watches 6 months ago and I love the santos, the black bay and the speedmaster
>is a sad stage to be at
It’s not sad to be at, we’ve all been there, including you.

It’s a sad stage to get STUCK at.

>>18515219
Looks like a Festina, only it's priced at 3k

>>18515230
>>18515243
We have one or two posters here who try to force Credor. They’re pretty easy to spot because literally no one else ever posts about or even thinks about [generic Seiko sub-brand #57], I mean, Credor.

Does anyone make a diver for extreme wristlets?

>>18512978
My favorites are the Chlamydia and the Prepus Krackhead.

Nothing says "i gave up on life" better than wearing one of these homages.

>>18515307
Blancpain’s 38mm Fifty Fathoms and Bathyscaphe will fit just about anyone.

If you’re looking to spend a little less, Doxa’s SUB 200t is 39mm but wears very small and has stubby lugs.

>>18515307
Zenith's Defy diver is 37mm

>>18513068
Do you actually own the watch? The bracelet feels like butter, that's how good it is.

>>18515307
Depends on the style you want and of your budget

Doxa 200T, made for smaller wrists, 39mm but considering it's mostly the rim, the dial itself is probably under 35mm

>>18515307
>>18515315
Squale SuperSquale (38 mm)

>>18515320
Omega Seamasters 36mm

>>18515321
Nivada Aquamar (38mm)

>>18515323
Vulcain Skindiver (38mm), but we are getting 2K territory, most people would chose an old Seamaster over this

>>18515327
under $100, pretty much every other Watchdives watch

How the fuck do you handle your poor family buying you the wrong watch? They're poor as fuck and they saved like years for it, and it's a shit watch that would be good if they just asked me what I wanted but now I have to wear it or it will be "I didn't eat for 2 years to get you this" and they're going to die soon and it's so fucked. Anyone else have a poor stupid mom/dad/whoever?

>>18515330
the Thorn 50 fathom cope is cool too

CONUNDRUM TIME

Left with strap looks best to me.
But right looks better on a bracelet, and I generally prefer bracelets to straps.

Which one do I get?

>>18515333
You take it as a proof of love, you keep the watch for life and only wear it when you see them, and one day when your parents are dead, you find the watch in a drawer and you cry.

>>18515336
Always get the bracelet then buy a NATO if you need it, it's easier than the other way around.

>>18515339
That's the thing, I don't like the look of the left one on a bracelet that much.

>>18515341
that's why you get the right one and you buy the same NATO

>>18515337
I mean almost everyone is dead and no one ever left me anything because they were fucking poor and now my dumb mother is going to die soon and she stole everything we ever had so I really don't think I will cry.

>>18515336
Some guy here bought it and it looks delicious, i love it. But isn't it gold bezel?

>>18515348
It is and it is a thousand units of currency more than the standard bezel and that's a lot for a longines.

>>18515348
>it looks delicious
As long as you don't look at the clasp straight from the $100 chinese shitter. It is honestly embarrassing.

>>18515343
>and you buy the same NATO
Doesn't look as good as with the yellow gold

>>18515348
The bezel insert is "gold capped", meaning it has a nice layer of sheet gold on top of regular metal.
The color looks more bronze-ish than gold, and I like how it's just fully brushed metal with tone-on-tone numerals instead of yet another cookie-cutter ceramic bezel with colored numerals.

>>18515360
Looks nice enough.
Overall I really like the bracelet with that polished V-channel in between the link rows.
I also like that it's 21mm between the lugs.

>>18515362
Idk, looks cool to me, maybe with another color of NATO

>>18515344
What watch did she buy?

>>18515307
https://www.jomashop.com/citizen-promaster-blue-dial-watch-eo2028-06l.html?srsltid=AfmBOooNfxEpmhApKKRzGxkoxIOqELnLAyAll3tFfvy8UiP0N7qNXswU

>>18515378
Whack

>>18515379
pros
>36mm
>iso certified
>very affordable
>eco-drive
>different color options
neutral
>basic Japanese tool watch aesthetic
con
>18mm lug width

>>18515127
>>18515237
What if it's a private seller...

>>18515411
I have a few rules, one is to NEVER deal with spanish sellers (or buyers).

In fact, there's a whole ranking in nationalities, you can mostly buy from Japaneses (when they sell in your area), Germans, Dutch....
Never deal with Spanish, Romanians, Serbs, or any eastern yuro.
French are mostly ok and Italians are a mixed bag.

>>18515414
Tell me more, I've never bought from there before and some of the sellers I'm looking at are from Spain and Italy...

>>18515411
The money is on the escrow account until you confirm the transaction, so in case of problem you can make an appeal.
But to be honest I wouldn't buy from a private seller.

>>18515416
Spanish always lie about where they got the watch and the condition of the watch.
And when they are buyers, they try to pay nothing for the watch, because they are broke as fuck. Horrible people all around.

About Italians, you have good ones, in Milan or in the north of Italy, and they actually have money and know what they are doing, but Italy is also known for counterfeit products, so you have a 50/50 chance that the seller is a crook who "found" the watch. Also, aways buy with box and papers if you want to avoid problems.

>>18515419
Shitalians are also known for overly aggressive and careless polishing. They also swipe parts of the movements and bracelets.
You find A LOT of garbage-tier Rolexes in Italy. They've bought a lot of them during the 80s and 90s and refurbish them over and over.

For me its the Zelensky

>>18515420
the stereotypes are true

>>18515419
>Also, aways buy with box and papers if you want to avoid problems.
and also make sure that the boxes and papers match. Very easy to buy boxes on eBay and get an unstamped warranty card.
Get a pic of the watch’s serial and make sure it matches the serial on the paperwork.

Is buying from Watchfinder safe?

>>18515449
Yes. They belong to Richemont.

>>18515430
I've been thinking to buy both of these >>18514550, take the bracelet I want and put it onto the body I want and keep it, likewise take the strap I don't want and put it on the body I don't want and sell it - would that be an issue for me as a seller in terms of the box and paperwork or do those not take into account the strap/bracelet a watch comes with?

>>18515454
Depends. Some companies, like Omega, have different SKUs for the same watch but different straps. Other companies don’t change the model code based on the strap option. I don’t know what Sinn does.

If I was buying a watch on a strap and noticed that the full product code was for the bracelet model, then I’d know something was up.

The Swiss made Swatch watch is the ultimate expression of what a watch is and what a watch can achieve. Anything else is a flashy showoff

>>18515470
Swatch group has a factory in China for decades now.

>>18515478
That's why you go get authentic vintage Swiss made

>>18515483
Yeah, 70's and below. The Swatch group also has a watchmaking school in China since the late 90s.

Who cares if Swatch are made in China? They're like 100 eurobucks.

>>18515502
Let me guess. You need more?

i kneel

>>18515548
>OMG IS THIS A STAINLESS STEEL BLUE DIAL CHRISTOPHER WARD SPORTS WATCH??? THIS IS FINALLY IT, THIS IS THE DATEJUST KILLER WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR

>>18515556
>Datejust killer
>doesn't have a date

>>18515548
That's kind of nice but why the fuck doesn't I have a date

>>18515548
I don't like the crown guards. Imagine how good this would look with a hidden crown, perfectly symmetrical.

>>18515614
why do you need a date?

>>18515307
There's literally never been a better time for a wristlet to buy a dive watch. Tudor, Breitling, Blancpain, a bunch of others are all putting out dive watches under 40mm. There's a rumor Omega is even putting out a 38mm Seamaster 300m soon.

>>18512759
ok, the day/date in seiko tuna cans.
what is it that you like about it?

>>18512674
I daily a day/date and prefer it, but the one on this longines looks terrible with the stars at 9.
so, date model, in this case.

>>18512782
>those glasses
>that hair dye
>”chad”
lol, okay anon. guess we know the type of men you like.

>>18512832
>it looks like the Aqua Terra going through its early 2000s emo phase
not exactly my thoughts but yeah, that'll work

>>18512978
Baltany

>>18514208
Or just "Swiss Movt"

>>18515661
To know the date

>>18512024 (OP)
I have been out of the watch game for some years now because I've legitimately come to hate modern watch companies and the cattle known as "watch enthusiasts". Has anyone made any actual 36mm skin diver or are they still complete fucking pussies hovering around 39mm diameters? I'll accept even chink brands. Yes, I know about Longines and Oris.

>>18515998
>>18515307
Someone asked the exact same question, what are the chances huh

More like Omegalul Semenmaster

I have average sized wrists, only wear traditional sized watches (I wouldn't mind wearing a 31mm Patek 96), but I'll never wear a 36mm DIVE WATCH.
I've tried a 37mm Yacht Master a while ago and the dial was so fucking tiny. It felt like a woman's fashion watch.
A diver is supposed to be a bit chunky.

>>18516009
The inventors of dive watches didn't agree.

>>18516009
You are never going diving. Stop larping.

>>18516032
>DURRRRR YOU'RE NOT A DIVER YOU DON'T NEED A DIVE WATCH HURRRR
Do you wear jeans? Are you a miner? No, then stop larping you fucking faggot.

>>18516009
it's also supposed to be in water

>>18516028
>The inventors of dive watches didn't agree.
How do you guess that?
The original Panerai was 47mm. The first modern dive watches in the 60s (Submariner, Seamaster 300, Fifty Fathoms, etc) were all between 40-42mm.

They made skindiver watches too once the fashion for dive watches was established, those were typically smaller but also less capable, sometimes being water resistant to only 50m.

>>18516090
The first submariners were 37-38mm but thanks for the input youtube watch enthusiast #23832

avaturdfaggots

>>18516111
…and then in the 90s it turned into a 40mm behemoth, right?
Oh,wait, no, I read that wrong. It was expanded out to 40mm in 1960, when men wore reasonably sized watches.

>>18516090
>How do you guess that?
Easy. Headcanon makes anything true.

I’m guessing some wristlet ITT discovered that he’d still be the size of a little baby even back then and has decided to rewrite history in order to cope.

my watch?
the role explorer, or as I like to call it, the sexplorer

>>18516134
What else did you read little timmy? Have you even seen a Rolex in person? They were 37mm for the first six years of their production - and the turn-o-graph was also 37mm before that.

>>18516151
>little
Oh boy, you’re projecting hard. But yeah, continue to whine about watches from 70 years ago.

>>18516151
Hideous.

>>18516151
Are you the same guy who was asking about tiny dive watches earlier in the thread?

Wow nice watch, good proportions really like the way it hangs off your wrist like a boat anchor. Wow brand new? No waiting list for you huh big guy - can I see the box and papers? No?

>>18516151
So they were little for the first five years and were normal sized for the next sixty years.
You’re acting like Rolex decided to change the Sub to normal size a few years ago, not from before your parents were born.

>>18516154
>oh boy
Shucks Timmy, if you're a fat ass just say so.

What are you aspies even arguing about? The first dive watches were 37mm - they made them 40mm later but they were still considerably smaller then the modern nig-masters they sell at the mall.

Cope and seethe? Dilate? Go watch more youtube.

>>18516165
They did, in 2005 with the "Super Case".
I never made any claim beyond the first dive watches were 37mm, supporting the other anons correct claim to this fact.

Are you wearing striped leg socks by any chance?

HOLLY SHIT TOO MANY RETARDS IN THIS THREAD
>>18516164
The one on the right is a ref 5512. It's a 40mm watch.

Picrel is a ref. 5508 which is the direct inspiration for the Tudor Black Bay 58. It doesn't have a crown guard and the knurling on the bezel is less pronounced. It's a 38mm watch.

BOTH OF THEM HAVE THE EXACT SAME LUG TO LUG AND SAME DIAL OPENING.
THE DIFFERENCE IN DIAMETER COMES FROM THE BEZEL.

LEARN YOUR SHIT BEFORE POSTING YOU RETARDS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>18516174
Why do the smallest little dogs bark the loudest?

Just buy a ladies’ watch, kiddo. No one will know it’s a women’s watch, we swear.

Why do wristlets (really, manlets) need to ruin normal sized men’s good times?

Wristlets complain that no one makes watch in their size, so normal sized men make mini versions of the watches for the wristlets.
Instead of being grateful, the wristlets then demand that the mini watches be the only size available.
I don’t get it.

>>18516134
The entire appeal of the submariner was that it was capable recreational diving equipment but you could also wear it to the bar with a sweater and jeans and not look like a retard.

>>18516181
Aware.
>>18516183
Are you trying to "troll" me? I wear 42mm, sometimes 45mm - but anything over 39mm doesn't fit under the sleeve of most jackets and shirts. Because its diving equipment.

>>18516194
Can you prove this assertion? Some literature from the period, perhaps?

For me, its 35mm on velcro ONLY

>>18516199
Is common sense good enough?

>>18516230
Nope. Not with a definitive-sounding statement like that.

Especially since dive watches back then were not sold in jewelry shops but dive shops back then. It makes just as much sense to assume that these things were not intended to be worn casually any more than someone today wearing a dive computer as a wrist watch.

>>18516234
>It makes just as much sense to assume that these things were not intended to be worn casually any more than someone today wearing a dive computer as a wrist watch.
This is a detail that’s been lost to time. The scene with the Submariner in “Goldfinger” is meant to illustrate Bond’s cockiness. Someone wearing a tuxedo would never wear a dive watch and a little detail like that could compromise his cover, but he doesn’t care. Bond’s nihilism has been part of the character from the start. Some of the films have parlayed that into cockiness bordering on sloppiness.

ngl they cooked with this one

>>18516234
All Rolex and Tudor time pieces are available at your local jewelers.

>>18516250
What is the earth phase indicator supposed to represent? AM/PM?

>>18516292
The phase of the Earth duh?

>>18515548
How considerate of you. Most people just pass by when they see trash lying around,

>>18515782
i like that it powers my tuna :)

>>18512883
Litterally.

NEW THREAD WHEN

>>18516438
shitter

I like spartan/military vibe of this watch

>>18516450
Thoughts?

>>18516450
Very proportional.
>>18516529
Disproportional.

Shame Luminox is only good if you get the Navy Seal copypasta version.

>>18516234
>>18516199
>SOURCE!?
sorry, I forgot this is reddit now.

>>18516540
>Disproportional
It does look a bit off I'll admit.

new thread
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