Thread 18513490

Shaving was a part of our lives for dozens of centuries. How come all men stopped it? Could it really be all those movies and videogames? Did men really lose all discipline and self respect?
Here's a pic of a 20 year old today and 70 years ago

>>18513490 (OP)
>Shaving was a part of our lives for dozens of centuries.
No it wasn't. Only a handful of the elites shaved their beards to larp as the Romans, who in turn wanted larp as Alexander the Great who was a beardlet 16 year old twink when he started his conquest and continued to be a beardlet twink until he died at the age of 32.

The clean shaving fashion started after WW2 among the masses. Before the World Wars most men grew their beards out, because they had no reason to shave, since and beards and mustaches were always seen as a sign of masculinity. But during the world wars men had to shave their facial hair off or else they couldn't wear gas masks. The trend then stuck around even after WW2 because men got used to the look, and especially because of the Hollywood actors from the 40s and 50s. Everyone wanted to look "classically handsome" like them.

>>18513490 (OP)
>Shaving was a part of our lives for dozens of centuries.
No it wasn't. Only a handful of the elites shaved their beards to larp as the Romans, who in turn wanted larp as Alexander the Great who was a beardlet 16 year old twink when he started his conquest and continued to be a beardlet twink until he died at the age of 32.

The clean shaving fashion started after WW2 among the masses. Before the World Wars most men grew their beards out, because they had no reason to shave, since and beards and mustaches were always seen as a sign of masculinity. But during the world wars men had to shave their facial hair off or else they couldn't wear gas masks. The trend then stuck around even after WW2 because men got used to the look, and especially because of the Hollywood actors from the 40s and 50s. Everyone wanted to look "classically handsome" like them.

If you're clean shaved, you're trying to larp as this twink.

>>18513490 (OP)
wow, he looks totally different without the beard

>>18513490 (OP)
Shaving has only become common among all social classes with the industrial revolution.
Not all men have stopped.
The decision (not) to shave has nothing to do with discipline and self respect.

>>18513506
>Before the World Wars most men grew their beards out, because they had no reason to shave
I'm a mustache guy but this isn't really true, as basically everyone in the middle ages was clean shaven, just look of medieval manuscripts (I think it's because it looked more like "angels")

>Stop shaving
>Only attract women over 30
That’s why I shave.

>>18513596
I've noticed that as well. Whenever I don't shave I attract a lot more 30+ single women and married moms. Meanwhile, women under 30 are more into the k-pop twinks and clean shaved pretty boy look.

>>18513600
The girls into k-pop twinks tend to be more on the alternative side. Alternative girls also tend to be broken. However, even a basic girl within the same age ranges still prefers a clean-shaven man. You don’t need to look gay and effeminate, but you shouldn’t look old if you want a young girl to like you.

>>18513596
>>18513600
>>18513601
why would you even care about women? They don't like you, so why are you so extremely obsessed with them?

>>18513490 (OP)
>Did men really lose all discipline and self respect?
Society doesn't reward discipline and self respect. Shaving costs Time and money and you get nothing in return. Basic Cost benefit analysis

>>18513713
It feels nice and looks good if you have a good jaw and clear skin. It also shows you take care of yourself and likely shower and brush your teeth. Of course the less aesthetically gifted are permitted to hide beneath keratin strands.

I shave for the same reason I use an aftershave with little to no alcohol - the beard makes me look older

>booo hooo modern men stopped doing x/started doing y, this is super duper degeneracy
jannies need to start doing what they're being paid for and bully the boomerposter out of this board

>>18513490 (OP)
The 20 year old 70 years ago looks 35

>>18513608
Who said they don’t like me?

>>18513490 (OP)
Not shaving was a part of our lives for thousands of centuries
See how stupid that logic is?

>>18513580
It's because some kings couldn't grow a beard and instituted a beard tax
Poors couldn't pay

>>18514014
I have good jaw and you can tell, no matter how long I grow beard.
Just carry a picture of yourself shaven around with you on your shirt if that's your fucking problem with it.

>>18514143
muslims are gay.
sandniggers in al andalus imported slavic boipucci for centuries

>>18514090
>wearing graphic t-shirts

>>18513608
I literally said I get hit on by women, whether I have a beard or not. When I'm clean shaved a lot more younger women and teenage girls hit on me.

>>18514022
This but even less ironically.

>>18513490 (OP)
I had facial hair for a while because it was something different for myself and different from the norm. It even looked good, even though it made me look older. Now I shave it again because 1) I've always preferred it, to be real and 2) sleazecore aesthetics and the safe sleazy phenomenon are quite played out and look fucking stupid at this point. I might grow a beard if I ever start balding.

>>18514177
No, a picture on your shirt like a nametag

>>18513490 (OP)
bro i fully agree with you

>>18513490 (OP)
It's boring shaving every day

>>18514089
I believe you're referring to the beard tax instituted by a russian emperor to (basically) imitate europeans.
He thought the nobility of his country having beards was a backward tradition (from the orthodox church and such) because modern europeans nobility in the 17th-18th-probably19th century "elites shaved their beards to larp as the Romans, who in turn wanted larp as Alexander the Great who was a beardlet 16 year old twink when he started his conquest".
The actual answer is fashion changes and has for millenia everywhere at different paces and for differznt reasons.

>>18514143
>Muslim calling anyone gay
Meanwhile:
Abdullah [ibn Mas'ud] related: The Messenger of Allah (SAW) sent for me, so we set out until I reached such-and-such a place, and He traced a line for me and told me: Stay between the two edges of this – don’t go outside of it; if you go outside of it, it’s over for you. Abdullah said: And so I stayed there. Then the Messenger of Allah (SAW) went off a stone’s throw away or a little farther (or something like that). Then he [Abdullah] mentioned a group of male members [haneen, i.e. men] who looked like Zutt people. ‘Affan narrated (or something like what 'Affan said, Allah willing): They didn't have any clothes on, and I didn't see their genitals, and they were tall and scrawny. He [Abdullah] said: And they came and started to ride [yarkaboun] the Messenger of Allah (SAW), and the Prophet of Allah (SAW) began to recite to them. And they started to move closer and lean around me, and get in my way, and I became intensely terrified of them, so I sat down (or something like that). And when the morning light broke, they began to go away (or something like that). Then the Messenger of Allah (SAW) came back exhausted and in pain, or practically in pain, from how they had ridden him; He said: Indeed I am exhausted (or something like that). Then the Messenger of Allah (SAW) put his head in my lap (or something like that). And the men came with tall white garments on, but the Messenger of Allah (SAW) had fallen asleep. And I became more intensely terrified of them than I was the first time.

>>18514014
It's cute how you're trying to turn beard elitism around. Do go on.

>>18515082
You don't need to shave everyday. Just use an electric trimmer (without the combs) every few days to trim your beard to a stubble. It's as good as shaving. You don't need a clean shave.

I look good with a beard

>>18513490 (OP)
>>18513506
can you imagine how hard it was to shave historically? i cut myself on a safety razor sometimes i got no idea how my ancestors did it

>>18513608
so you can get prime pussy 18-21

>>18515421
I imagine all men in older civilisations who shaved must've had super leathery aged skin.

>>18515747
the romans used to say the huns scarred their cheeks with knives but maybe they just had bad shaving techniques

>>18515421
I watch survivalist channels and you can make a shaving foam out of some plants then you shave using a sharp rock. Not that hard

>>18513490 (OP)
Because every Chad has a beard or stubble more often

>>18515371
having a stubble is just being a grooming fence-sitter. make up your mind.

My chin just has a slightly weird shape and even a designer stubble smooths it out visually.
The worst thing is that I'm about to be 27 and still don't appear close to hitting the twink wall and have the body to go with it, but I'm stuck with this cope so I'm going with the otters.

>>18517255
>Because every Chad has a beard

>>18517270
I don't need to. I like a 1 day stubble. That's enough of a clean look for me. Besides, there's no such thing as a "clean" shave. There will always be a grey 5 o clock shadow on your face. So it's no different from a stubble.

>>18517352
in my early 20s i was a diehard road cyclist and went so far as to shave my legs to be more aero or whatever but the straw that broke the camels back was when i got to the point where i would have to shave my legs twice a day otherwise the stubble would be noticeable. every since then i said fuck it and go full bush including my face

>>18517352
How do you get that? Even with the lowest setting on a trimmer I get 2-3 days of growth

>>18513490 (OP)
Shaving is for metrosexual faggots