Thread 18517357

/btg/ BOOT GENERAL - CHUKKAS EDITION

What do I need to care for my boots?
>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)
>Horsehair brush ($10-15)
>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)
>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bck4/renovateur
>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP
>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest them

How do I deal with x stain?
>mud: allow it to dry then brush off
>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible
>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper
>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush

>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?
No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.
>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're good
no. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.
>Are Thursdays any good?
no.

Manufacturer Red Flags
>Luxury
>Bespoke
>Sustainable
>Vegan
>Unknown leather source
>Made in Chyna/Mexico/Indonesia

Boot Red Flags
>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)
>C*rk/C*lastic
>Zippers
>Non gusseted tongues
>Excessive/unnecessary seams
>Combination/mixed material heels

Boot Brands NO
>Turdsdays
>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters
>any Whatsapp makers in the far east

PREV>>18506517

Is this the “I cuff my jeans and try to look mature” thread?

>>18517357 (OP)
720 for Alden chukka boots is insane. The quality and the value is simply not there. I much rather wear Crockett and Jones at that price.

I just got my first piece of shell cordovan anything (wallet) in the mail. Is the skin side supposed to be ultra shiny like patent leather? It almost looks and feels like it has a plastic coating on it.

>>18517443
yes the glass like surface is desired

>>18517443
>It almost looks and feels like it has a plastic coating on it.
inb4 shell stripping discussion

>>18517443
Post pics

How often does Grant Stone restock? I wanted to order these. Are there similar quality boots out there? I like that they're kind of rugged and casual looking.

>>18517499
what tannery? doesn't look like shinki

>>18517503
It's "Rocado marble shell"

Sorry, I dunno shit about tanneries.

>>18517510
>marble shell
nice its a hand applied finish iirc

>dunno shit about tanneries
you have
>burgers: hormeme
>japs: shinki
>italian: rocado

can any loafer bros possibly identify these or know of something very similar?

>>18517545
another pic

>>18517547
specifically i like the sort of "puckering" of the apron in those first two pics

>>18517547
specifically i like the sort of "puckering" of the apron in those first two pics.

>>18517443
>Is the skin side supposed to be ultra shiny like patent leather? It almost looks and feels like it has a plastic coating on it.
that's what cordovan looks and feels like. you either love it or hate it

>>18517545
>>18517547
>>18517550
https://www.rancourtandcompany.com/products/weltline-penny-loafers-dark-brown-calf

>>18517563
oh damn brother, this is pretty close. the cutout of the strap is different but these are are close enough

>>18517357 (OP)
nice looking leather
but
>>18517434

Is a service boot good for winter? A proper winter, but mainly commuting.

>>18517608
Depends less on the actual service boot pattern, and more on the specifics of the boot
>upper leather (waxed roughout/waxed suede will hold up better against snow and salt)
>outsole (lugged soles will give you the best grip)
>gusseting (depending on how deep the snow you're walking in will be, you might want it to be either a fully or semi-gusseted tongue)
>construction (a proper leather midsole will keep temperature transfer to a minimum)
And of course, brush your boots, keep them conditioned/use protectants if necessary, don't wear them everyday, and it'll hold up just fine. Winters where I am are mild, but I've gone on vacation to places with "proper" winters and my boots held up just fine.

>>18517500
its kinda random
people love the black though so it'll get restocked soon

Thursdays on Thursday

Red Wings 2966 engineers are back on the catalog. At 600 eurobucks, are they worth it?

>>18517762
>engineers
I would maybe take them if they gave them to me for free or for 20 bucks

>>18517762
Black Klondike is a nice leather

>>18517762
the cheapest in stock engineers on the market currently

>>18517782
>>18517819
Saw a pair in person once. The leather is sturdy and thick, the boots were heavy and looked robust. But the heel was not stacked leather, rather some sort of plastic thing. How much of a dealbreaker is that?
Also, the website keeps mentioning the steel toe cap but the Red Wing dude on insta says they have no steel toe and tgey're unstructured.
I was kinda hoping they'd be 450-500, but for 600, I don't know.

>>18517762
>$600
>clearly a high heel on a low heeled last

>>18517762
Finishing looks rough, especially that heel block, but you won't find a cheaper engineer that doesn't have even sketchier construction and finishing. For a shit kicker I think it's fine and you can always get better finishing on the sole and heel when you resole them.

>>18517563
how do you size these things? they look good but sizing loafers is absolute hell

>>18517997
by ordering a pair and seeing how it fits your foot
loafers are really specific and just length won't cut it

>>18517357 (OP)
>Boot Brands NO
How about a Boot Brands YES then?

>>18518075
>gat boot isn't real. gat boot can't hurt you

>>18518118
>gat boot
Not only that, but gat timberlands, which is a contradiction. Gats are white man's sneakers while timbs are nigger boots. Who are these for?

>>18517357 (OP)
What I've realised about red wing boots

Get TTS (or whatever size you wear in most shoes) if you are planning on wearing them with insoles

Only size down half of you are planning on only using the leather footbed.

That said, shit feels way more comfy if you put in a workboots insole like dr scholls

>>18517821
well you can always replace the heel can't you

Good entry level Chelsea's? EU, ~300 max.

>>18517357 (OP)
When it comes to western wear I know red wing boots are probably your best bet for more cowboy inspired boots but what is the Apache Indian equivalent?

Which company sells higher quality type moc style shoe or a native American inspired shoe?. Otherwise I'll probably get another pair of Clarks wallabees

>>18518395
>Good
>~300 max.
pick one and only one (unless you get lucky with a sale)

>>18518383
I considered it. On one hand I despise the idea of getting work done on a brand new boot that's 600 already.
On the other hand I know of a couple of cobblers who could replace the heel with a leather stack, maybe even keeping the original toplift, for cheap.

>>18518398
your standards have to be insane to think there are no good boots under 300

>>18518406
well i suppose that is annoying, but im getting the rw moc toe and will probably replace the wedge sole with a mini lug so you know

>>18518426
even porkhursts and red wings are 300+ and that's in usd and euro

>>18518426
Post examples of good Chelsea boots for 300 or less.

>>18518397
Yuketen

>>18518397
quoddy rancourt yuketen

>>18518426
you post one that's good

>>18518102
this general only exists to spread negativity

>>18518331
uncle toms

>>18518430
nta but https://www.careofcarl.com/en/astorflex-bitflex-dainite-chelsea-boot-dark-brown-suede

>>18518739
>

>>18518744
We're talking about EU, no?

>>18518747
american website

>>18518748
owned by a nipp

>>18518739
There's a few that are decent quality for the price, but I don't expect them to have a particularly nice finish or use higher quality leathers. You also have the cheaper loake Chelsea and maybe companies like myrqvist in that price range.
Add another €100-150 instead of cheaping out and you get much nicer boots like TLB.

>>18517357 (OP)
Thoughts on these as a daily or even as an option if I get into camping or hiking? Will I look goofy wearing them in public

They're danners and cost around the same as Jordan 3s here in Australia to gauge price point

>>18518939
ok heres some guidance
>but theyre practical and look cool
ok but in a few years you'll get it just no
get a roughout service boot if you like the look but please dont buy T A C T I C A L boots

>>18518939
not quite school shooter core but it'll raise a couple eyebrows especially if you don't live in a desert climate

>>18517357 (OP)
How can I make the ride of my RW Beckman's more comfortable? I've been wearing them everyday for two months and they're completely broken in, just that after 1km my shins are on fire because of the non-existent midsole. I'm thinking of lambswool insoles.

>>18518939
They're good for larping as Shia.

>>18519058
The new beckmans don't have a midsole?

>>18519058
>my shins are on fire because of the non-existent midsole
it's not because of the midsole it's because the boots are too heavy for you (currently)
do tib raises and the tibialis (which lifts the foot) will get stronger thus making it easier to walk in these boots

just started and experiment stretching out some loafers that are too tight at home
i took a shoe tree and put two pairs of thick ass socks over it and forced it into the loafers
gonna check in a week or so if it did anything

>>18517563
I really want to try loafers out casually, I feel like I would look over them in thrift stores. These look great but I could get a decent pair of boots for the price. Any alternatives? This is more of an experiment for my wardrobe.

>>18519766
loafers are a meme

>>18519766
derbies

>>18519766
just get some and give them a try
>>18519778
loafers are based and i'm done throwing money away on boots. it's loafers and derbies for me from now on

>>18519762
it'll stretch a little

>>18519766
if you live in a city i'm sure there's some mall tier brands that sell them, but otherwise get a proper pair via second hand (gross cause the prev owner probably wore them without socks)

>>18519782
>throwing money away on boots
look at you all westernized and keen to show ankle

interesting thing about horween cordovan is that they don't do grades or tiers, it's all the same cordovan no matter who is using it to make shoes. so thinking a brand with a super expensive shoe made of cordovan is better because it must be getting better materials is incorrect

>>18519793
>horween cordovan is that they don't do grades or tiers, it's all the same cordovan no matter who is using it to make shoes
lol
they know who's getting dumpster liner and charge accordingly

>>18519778
They look like the adult equivalent to vans slip-ons when worn causally. The black and white photo(s) posted are almost cut and past of what ive been wearing this summer minus the loafers. Ive been getting a lot of older women talking to me and I love it.

>>18519796
>They look like the adult equivalent to vans slip-ons when worn causally
i hate those...

>>18519797
no one gives a shit

>>18519807
mama says loaferboyz are ornery because they got all that tongue and no laces

boot noob here, what kind of boot do I get if I want it to last forever and be endlessly repairable?

>>18519834
a goodyear welted one. boots, shoes, as long as they're gyw you can resole them for as many times as the uppers can last
and gyw boots are extremely durable

>>18519836
stitchdown is good too.

I've whittled my collection down to just three boots
Whites MP
Alden Indy 405
Red Wing Iron Ranger

>>18520368
That's a nice collection.

>>18520406
Only other boot I'm interested in is the RD 875 since I've never owned a moc toe before
Otherwise I'm done with boots

cop or not

You anons know of any boots that look similar to Indie Ridges but without all the motorcycle reinforcements? I got a pair for motorcycling but I like the look and wouldn't mind one for daily use too. Bonus points for being at a similar price point & a brown colorway, I have plenty of black shoes.

>>18520494
Look for sneaker boots/high top leather sneakers.

>>18520495
Thank you anon.

what do we think of these

>>18520551
what's the deal with the plug why is it flared out like that

>>18519131
Not that they don't have a midsole, it's how sparse it is combined with the thin outsole that's a recipe for tibial stress. Makes a cool tapping sound though.

>>18519406
Wouldn't just wearing them be a form of calisthenic training?

Figured out why I'm getting shin splints and it's a pretty dumb reason, it's only on days where I have to speed-walk to lectures and take longer strides, resulting in greater shock transfer. Other than that I can wear them indefinitely.

are redwing factory seconds safe to buy? things are only like 220 dollars and they claim the defects are purely cosmetic

>>18520619
case by case basis desu

/effay/ rainboots?

>>18520619
it's case by case. sometimes the defect is a tiny scratch, sometimes it's something major that makes them unbearable

>>18520645
grant stone kangaroo

>>18520617
>it's only on days where I have to speed-walk to lectures and take longer strides, resulting in greater shock transfer.
It also can be caused by tightness in the calves and the tendons. A pretty common issue. Stretching and being less sedentary fixes it.

>>18520617
>Wouldn't just wearing them be a form of calisthenic training?
it is
but it will take ages to make progress and you will only get strong enough to manage the most common load
if you instead train you will get stronger quickly and you will get so strong that any walking or running or jumping won't hurt you
demand vs ability
without training you will just about match the most common demand
training gives you as good ability as you can get

>>18520617
>speed-walk to lectures and take longer strides,
Shin splints is usually from overuse of the tibialis, which happens when you speed walk and take long strides, you're probably flexing your feet and keep them tense. The raised heel allow/promote a longer unnatural stride, this is why running sneakers went from flat to having a raised heel with the idea that longer stride = faster run.
A natural shorter stride/mid foot strike engages the calf muscle which obviously much larger than the tibialis and is meant to absorb the weight and shock when running.

>>18520651
>>18520626
so is it basically a lie that the defects don't affect the performance or durability or are you saying the defect is unbearably ugly?

>>18520761
You're probably right. Sometimes when I sit down and rest only the ball of my foot on the ground, my calf bounces up and down involuntarily without any way of stopping it.

>>18520791
Makes sense, however it's a bit silly having to train to wear a shoe you paid $400 for.

>>18520851
Very informative. But why are high heel-drops in smokejumpers a thing in the first place?

>>18520971
There’s no answer you can take and run away with, it depends on the defect. Grain break or loose grain won’t impede the longevity of the boot but an improper welt might, etcetera. If you’re picky or don’t know what to look out for, don’t get factory seconds.

Who makes a good suede Chelsea?

>>18521023
>If you’re picky or don’t know what to look out for, don’t get factory seconds.

okay makes sense. I just don't see how paying 300 dollars for a non custom boot is really worth buying , a nicks or whites supposedly last a lifetime , if you have to replace redwings even once or twice, i get the feeling i might as well just buy some sorels or keen for 150 dollars and call it a day

>>18520971
>so is it basically a lie that the defects don't affect the performance
no. its a case by case basis dependent on how the QC operator feels

>>18521050
you're just some retard then

>>18521023
>But why are high heel-drops in smokejumpers a thing in the first place
It's supposed to help with arch support and reduce fatigue when working in rough terrain and standing in inclines etc.

https://youtu.be/T_rYsn-MrTU

>>18521023
>But why are high heel-drops in smokejumpers a thing in the first place?
support underfoot for all the weight they have to carry on them plus the terrain they're in

>>18520971
Most seconds shoes got a big scratch while being made and can't be sold as firsts, or the eyelet is crooked or the lining is crooked. It's usually something like that that makes them seconds
If they're unwearable due to a defect they usually toss them out

ID on these shoes, please?

>>18521216
Rolling Dub Trio Coupen, but I feel like you already knew that.

>>18521216
https://standardandstrange.com/products/coupen-mid-cut-boot-black-cxl

Boots from India came in. Not bad for the price.

>>18521439
why is the buckle on the left boot flaring out like that

>>18521440
The way they were shipped. In a few days it will relax.

>>18521442
please assume the position

>>18521446
What was I thinking

>>18521447
Close up of the leather

>>18521447
These are dope. If you like em fuck the haters
Enjoy

>>18521447
nice
>those creases instead of rolls out of the box
brutal

>>18521450
They are less than $300 engineers. I'll live with the ugly creasing beneath my jeans.

>>18521450
Also it's bison, so it was never going to roll.

>>18521451
you got enough room to tuck your pants into them

>>18521451
MTO?

Wanna buy some entry level penny loafers in Europe. Hesitating between Berwick and Skolyx. Any one of you anons have any experience with either ? Or better reccs betweeen 200€-300€ ?

>>18521550
Yeah, but not many options. Just size and insole.

>>18521651
Which maker? Wanna check them out. Do you honestly think they're worth 300?

>>18521451
>less than $300 engineers.
a steal desu

>>18521643
I bought a pair of derbies (by Yanko) from Skolyx recently and they seem professional and knowledgeable, the shoes came double boxed and well cushioned. Haven't had a chance to use them yet but they are very comfortable and to my knowledge well built for the price.

>>18521643
just got some berwick derbies myself and I'm very satisfied with them. pretty good for 200 eurobucks

>>18521687
Craft and Glory. There is no midsole, but that's the same as Red Wings. Yeah I'd say they are worth $285. For goodyear welted engineer boots. My only real actual complaint about them is they squeak a bit. Hopefully that goes away.

>>18521738
Mmmm... supiciously cheap. How do they size?

>>18517563
uff

>>18521447
cute, basado

>>18521241
>>18521435
Thank you

>>18521738
>they squeak a bit
are they squeaking underfoot?

ID on the left boots

>>18522353
They’re called shit boots

>>18522430
shit kicking boots*

>>18522353
just search cowboy boots it’s not that hard

>RM Williams went to shit
well damn

>>18518398
Just get some cheapo blundstones. They'll last you long enough and by then you can come back and ask the question again once you have money to spend.

>>18522634
yeah i was reading about this. sucks because their aussie made chelseas were basically the last boots i was still looking to get, otherwise my collection is pretty much complete
i still probably will lmao

>>18522634
how? are they still goodyear welted? are they still using leather insoles and materials? steel shanks? etc?
then i don't really care since i'm not working on farms in my boots

>>18522634
come on post a pic
>>18522814
what were you reading

>>18522823
just the usual bitching and whining from reddit about "my old pair lasted me 20 years but my new pair is already falling apart". i never believe those posts ever, but in general just people saying they materials and quality aren't the same as their old pairs

>>18522823
>what were you reading
https://youtu.be/N5QX2_5jvtY?si=ThEkfSMBlDlZ9Lgv
i hate rose anshill but the boots cut in half don't lie
disappointing

>>18522833
the comfort craftsman has always been the shitty synthetic offering tho, the craftsman and the gardener lines are the ones you want to get

uggo cuckko boots!

>>18522836
how can i make sure i'm not getting the comfort version because on their site if you click the craftsman boot the url shows "comfort" in the title

>>18522836
>the gardener lines are the ones you want to get
Gardner
>Insole
>Texon & Foam
>A lightweight foam insole provides ultimate comfort and shock absorption for daily wear.

Craftsman
>Insole
>Texon & Foam
>A lightweight foam insole provides ultimate comfort and shock absorption for daily wear.

They're both made with foam trash on the inside. Face it anon, the brand is done. They're worse than Alden now because at least Alden just uses leatherboard midsoles but still uses real leather insoles, but RMW is using foam insoles

>>18522847
>>18522839
must have been a recent change my gardeners are leather insole with a rubber outsole

non leather insoles is basically the only dealbreaker i have

yeah ok its unironically over

>>18522855
well that pretty much settles it then. i won't be getting rm williams ever
so then who does righ quality chelsea boots in the same style?

>>18522858
meermin
viberg
and uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>18522860
>meermin
junk. i owned two pairs of their shoes and will never bother with them again
>viberg
not paying 1k+ just to stroke bett viberg's ego
i think i'll go with crockett and jones

>>18522862
do they make a wholecut?

>>18522864
dunno but i don't really care about that. a seam in the back is not an issue

>>18521447
nice straps, fag

>>18517357 (OP)
What boots to look into if you want to dress more visvim inspired but more on a budget?

What brands and models to look into (considering red wings)

>>18522921
pretty much any "heritage" brand that does a service boot

>>18522820
>are they still using leather insoles and materials?
No

>>18522869
Anon a whole cut still has a seam at the back

>>18522921
Broad category, there are plenty of service boot alternatives, just look for black or brown roughout leathers and wear them in. For the moccasin styles you can go with Easymoc or Yuketen, same as before just get the right leather and wear them hard for the worn in look.

>>18523020
>heritage brand

>>18521738
My whites squeeked and oil on the insole fixed it.

If your shoes squeak, crease or hurt your feet, it means they're shit-tier shoes.

>>18523471
It's not really funny though

>>18523516
show me leather that doesn't crease

>>18523531
High quality leather doesn't. Microsoft Chromexcel trash does.

(N.B. creases ≠ wrinkles)

Can you help me pick a vegan boot?
I already made a thread >>18523617 but we can talk here too

>>18523674
>vegan
why? do you think it'll get you laid in college

>>18523676
Because I'm vegan and no

>>18523674
the best thing you could do for animals is buy one good boot and not buy plasic garbage that harms their environment
kangaroo leather comes form population management so they continue to exist

>>18523709
:(

>>18523715
vegan is plastic
if you really cared about animal welfare you would not advocate for more plastic

>>18523713
>>18523716
I get your point but corpos and governments produce non stop environmental slop. A consumer buying vegan boots once in a while isn't doing anything

>>18523717
driving demand for something is bad

>>18523717
a vegan buying something that isnt shit once every 10 years isnt doing anything

>>18517357 (OP)
What boots would you recommend if I subtlety want to dress modern wizard like

>>18523718
>>18523719
Yes. Buying byproduct leather still makes the animal killing industry more profitable

(Unless the leather comes from some form of animal control, but even then its questionable because human activity is causing the need for the control in the first place and there can be corruption going on)

And turning dead animal skin into leather still uses chemicals and other products that harm the environment

And since you are wasting energy lecturing a vegan about the environment I am sure you and your entire family are extremely environmentally friendly...

>>18523732
>Yes. Buying byproduct leather still makes the animal killing industry more profitable
so you want to put more plastic in the ocean
ok

>(Unless the leather comes from some form of animal control, but even then its questionable because human activity is causing the need for the control in the first place and there can be corruption going on)
manufacturing cope

>And turning dead animal skin into leather still uses chemicals and other products that harm the environment
veg tanning and tell me how clean your pleather is

>And since you are wasting energy lecturing a vegan about the environment I am sure you and your entire family are extremely environmentally friendly...
i dont pretend to care
im here to make you buy boots

>>18523732
a byproduct by definition isn't something you make profit off
>And turning dead animal skin into leather still uses chemicals
veg tan my son
>I am sure you and your entire family are extremely environmentally friendly...
yes we avoid plastic leather

Cute camel! :DD
>>18523736
>so you want to put more plastic in the ocean
Misleading question. It's bad but still better for animals than real leather
>manufacturing cope
Not a response but ok...
>veg tanning and tell me how clean your pleather is
Better than chrome tanning but still real leather is overall worse for animals than fake leather
>i dont pretend to care
>im here to make you buy boots
You can look at all the boots in my seperate thread and tell me what you think :3
Or find me real leather boots that provably cause less animal harm than fake leather

by definition actual leather causes less harm than plastic

>>18523745
>a byproduct by definition isn't something you make profit off
There is a huge demand for leather. Even if animals had no meat they would still be killed for leather so leather isn't a byproduct. And a profit is made from leather even in the real world so it still isn't a byproduct
>veg tan my son
see above
>yes we avoid plastic leather
Ok do you eat meat? 1000x worse than plastic and real leather combined so surely...

no

>>18523747
>by definition actual leather causes less harm than plastic
??? What definition? At least the other comments had a point but this genuinely makes 0 sense

nah play stupid games win stupid prizes

Thoughts on TLB?

>>18523750
All leather is a waste product.

>>18523553
>High quality leather doesn't crease
diesel doesn't burn tier post

>>18523827
fantastic

>>18523750
It's just that one guy in this general that still hasn't figured out how to reply to particular post so he ends up looking like he's making nonsequitor posts. You have to look at one or two posts above his to grasp some context. Or just ignore him.

>>18523900
>Or just ignore him.
Probably the best option.

>>18523895
Based primary school reading comprehension tier retard

>Rolling Dub Trio
Am I supposed to give them to a cobbler immediately after I receive them in order to get a rubber layer on the outsole, since they're made of fucking cork?

>>18523896
Thinking of picking up these for fall/winter/spring, half of the year is wet and cold here.
https://www.tlbmallorca.com/products/derby-madison-repello-calf-snuff-702

>>18523991
if you like them get them
as far as I know everything from tlb is good quality (about the same as carmina) but they somehow sell their stuff for less than it's worth

>>18523827
Have 2 pairs of loafers and 1 pair of derbys from them and can't complain. Leather is nice and quality is great for the price.

>>18523992
Definitely not the same quality as carmina, those are much nicer. Tlb is great, the leather is so so, I have a pair of Chelsea boots and they are developing some ugly creases but I don't mind it too much.

Also the suede in carmina is like on another level, I had a pair of loden suede boots and they were simply amazing and soft.

>>18524010
>Chelsea boots and they are developing some ugly creases
your shoe trees?

>Definitely not the same quality as carmina, those are much nicer.
that's why I said about the same
and I should've added that I was talking about the quality of craftsmanship

and I should've added that tlb has the artista line which for a small price increase offers even better quality

>>18517357 (OP)
>>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bck4/renovateur
>>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP
how often should I condition? and why does it matter if I get light/heavy conditioner? I live in quite a rainy area (NL) so should I get heavy conditioner? what's even the point of conditioning?

>>18523910
if its cork/nitrile then thats a well established sole material
rw used to use it

>here's your JG bro

>>18524113
>how often should I condition?
once a winter
>and why does it matter if I get light/heavy conditioner?
depends on your climate
> I live in quite a rainy area (NL) so should I get heavy conditioner?
there are products like obernauf LP (heavy) which is both a conditioner and a water repellent
> what's even the point of conditioning?
when leather goes through a wet/dry cycle they lose some of the flexibility and they dry out leading to friction between the fibers and eventually cracking, conditioning prevents that

don't over condition tho, that can have a negative effective too

>>18524182
custom boot builders were a mistake

>>18523727
Clinch Tokyo Brass

>>18523827
Huge fan. My split toe derbies from them are every bit as good as my Carminas

>>18524025
I actually have the lasted shoe trees and they are from the artista line. They are not by any means bad and I'm happy with them and I try to wear them often, but carmina is a step above. And on the same vein I just received an email from tlb saying that they're going to increase the prices.

>>18524228
>And on the same vein I just received an email from tlb saying that they're going to increase the prices.

>>18524228
US?

>>18523910
nitrile cork is a different cork that they use to fill the void for the GYW gemming

Cowboy anons how are boulets?

>>18517357 (OP)
What are some good options for boots that I can wear with a suit? Preferably lace up, but I am open minded to the Chelsea. $200 - $600 Range.

>>18524625
I fail to see the purpose of owning boots to be worn with a suit. They'll be far too formal to be worn with anything else and won't look as good as shoes with a suit.

never heard of these before are they any good ?
says goodyear welt, made in italy looks nice

https://saddlebackleather.com/officers-boot-oxblood/

>>18524743
Seems a bit memey. I'd hope the last and construction is worth it, the design of the boot looks kind of cheap.

>>18524625
above ankle boots with laces don't work with suits

well maybe chukkas with a summer suit during summer

chelseas work well with more casual ensembles

for everything else you're looking at derbies formal or oxfords super formal

>>18524803
yeah leather seems thin and construction seems "light"

hope some anon buys them and shares thoughts

>>18524625
Balmoral boots. Or something like the Alden Indy for a more casual look.

>>18524743
Honestly looks like they have skin in the game given the “100 year warranty” and insistence of using full grain leather with zero synthetics. Can’t say they’ll be any better than Reddit Wings but they’re certainly unique, let us know when they arrive anon.

>>18524135
>>18524327
Is it more wear-resistant than leather when used for an outsole?

>>18524973
Cork nitrile yes and it's surprisingly grippy on wet surfaces. I was expecting to slide and fall on my ass under the rain, but not even a small fright.

American bros, dunno if you've been following but a federal court rules Trump's tarrifs illegal. The tarrifs are going away in October
HOWEVER, I guarantee, I promise you, I fucking know it, that no brand will go back to their previous pricing. Nothing will change. This is the "new normal"
All brands that increased prices by 25% will stay the same even with the tarrifs gone

>>18525013
Rain is one thing, snow is another. I have the old Iron Rangers before the mini-lug soles and they are dogshit in the snow. Same with my Aldens that have basically the same sole

>>18524973
very wear resistant but you're gonna slip on ice/snow

are studs good enough for snowy conditions or do I need lugs?

>>18524846
Nta, but I secretly really like those mixed rough-out rough-in ones. I think I'd have to wear more tweed if I wanted to pull it off, however.

>>18525040
It almost never snows where I live. I don't wear the Iron Rangers when it does. They performed surprisingly well on rain so far.

>>18521643
What country? There should be a manufacturer from there with loafers in their catalogue for that price.

>>18521643
Berwick is garbage. Get a pair of Astorflex with rubber or leather soles.

>>18524930
im to poor to experiment with 600+200$ in transport and taxes without knowing if its a good buy

>>18523727
Court wizard or forest dweller? Totally depends on if you're actually out there dungeon crawling and supporting the martials or if you're just researching tomes and incantations in the towers. Do you need boots for anything other than marbled floors and cobble stones?

>>18524363
They're okay, I just didn't like the thiness of the leather ones I owned, however that is all very dependant on what you buy. It makes a big difference what animal is used.

I like the slimmer style of pic, IK the brand kind of sucks. Also they look slightly too dressy and like you can't walk outside with them... Are there boots that look slim, look good with both slimmer chinos and baggier relaxed fit jeans, that are comfortable, and sort of "all terrain" with light offroad use?

>>18525769
>toe cap
>speed hooks
>rubber sole
>light brown
>contrasting eyelets
those are not dressy in the slightest
every single boot maker has a military boot

>>18525769
Clinch Transcontinental boots.

>>18525769
White's Semi Dress

Beautiful shoes
In absolutely no way worth that much money

all i want is something like this thats not 1000$

>>18526517
smooth leather + lugs is not a very common combo

>>18526517
what you should then want is a higher income

>>18526517
What about this?
>https://shoehealer.co.uk/collections/trickers/products/grassmere?variant=18524762472499
Use codes flash25 and vat20 for 45% off

Obviously not the same boot but lugs, brown leather, and that britbong service boots side seam design.

>>18525801
its dishonest to say its not dressy in the slightest. anything more than a sneaker is basically professional attire now

>>18526517
Get a job

>>18526517
save up

>>18526662
maybe if you're 16

>>18526517
TLB Mallorca Gordon, choose customization for different leathers.

>>18524930
i'll bet they have c*lastic heel and toe counters

>>18526827
>why is the lead time 18 months?

Here’s your $1500 boots bro

>>18527062
viberg?

>>18527062
1/2 croc half calf how modern

>>18527062
fucking kek

>>18527062
It's over. All the 2030s on their site are on ridgeways and not a single size is sold out. No one wants that shit.

How much of a pipe dream is a very comfortable boot for walking that is mostly rain proof and warm? That doesn't look like shit and is effay. I don't think just saying "lol apply more wax" is a good enough compromise to get it rain proof.

>>18526572
how to

just use wax anon
wax is gud

>>18527276
I want that shit but I'm sure as shit not paying what theyre asking

>>18527376
How much warmth do you need, are you looking for shearling lining?

>>18524639
Because if you choose to or need to wear a suit but live in a climate that constantly snows or rains then simple dress shoes will not be sufficient for daily wear.

>>18527564
a black gyw derby will do fine and if it's a very fancy occasion you just take a cab or change to your dress shoes on site

Is chromexcel a good leather?

>>18527809
No, it's literally the shittiest leather in the world.

>>18527809
It's fine, babby's first boot leather

>>18527809
it's the best thing to ever grace the earth

>>18527809
One of the best. It’s easy to break in, resilient and looks good. Only negative I can think of is it can have some bad grain break. My personal favorite is waxed flesh.

>>18527809
It's literally the default leather of boots. It's the floor of good leather

>>18527836
No, it isn't. The default leather for ANYTHING is Tuscan leather. You pathetic bunch of amerilards will not convince anyone that your shitty creation is better.

>>18527817
>>18527821
Lmfao. Enjoy those horrific grain breaks you fucking clowns.

>>18527809
over marketed

this looks like chemical rubber made in india
dr martens is super luxury when compared to this

enjoy your microsoft chromexcel bro

>>18527858
those are turdsdays tho

Chrome incel

>>18527845
grow up

>>18527812
>>18527814
>>18527817
>>18527821
What am I to make of this? Why is it so polarizing?

>>18527856
>super fine creasing is an issue
you just wanted to sneak a stone into your schizo spam

>>18527905
Chromexcel is everywhere so everyone has an opinion on it. That and the mindshare Horween has (with the price premium to boot) means there are going to be contrarian takes about it.
There's nothing particularly wrong with CXL, it's just not as good in some respects compared to other leathers (e.g. not as tough and water-resistant as waxed flesh, not as patina-friendly as veg-tan etc.), and of course the CXL lottery due to the common notion that it creases like a bitch (which is less due to CXL itself and more due to how much of the hide factories choose to use)

>>18527943 (me)
loose grain, I mean, not the creasing itself

>>18527809
Yes, it's good, especially for weather resistance.

>>18527809
My best boots (White's MP) have CXL and they are amazing, the leather is awesome because black CXL is almost like a tea core the way the brown comes through underneath, and the creasing is as good as anyone could ask for on a boot

>>18527561
I have some shearling lines boots so these don't necessarily need that. But I am planning to wear them to Nuuk in Greenland, though in the summer.

do you guys cuff/roll your jeans or just to show your boots here?

>>18528063
Nope.

>>18528063
no, that's gay

>>18528063
i wear selvedge but i never cuff, i get all my jeans hemmed
the cuffed jeans and boots look is so played out and lame. i cringe seeing it

free my man mr bond

>>18528078
So insecure

>>18528080
Based

>>18527905
It just looks like steaming shit. Get shoes made of full grain Tuscan or American leather.

>>18528083
I'm sure you look really cool with your cuffed jeans anon

sexo

>>18527858
Those look overconditioned

>>18528499
>gay sexo

>>18528499
with men

Why would anyone want boots without speed hooks?

>>18528554
LARP/dress factor. Though I always put speed hooks on boots that didn't come with one when it's time to resole

What boots are these?

>>18528638
Some faggy english brand

>>18528662
this cannot be real

you cannot organically hit this many stereotypes in a row in that short of an amount of time in one location

>>18528665
>thinks america isn’t real

>>18528662
Why are Americans such fucking extroverted cringeworthy fat imbeciles

>>18528638
https://www.aldenshop.com/collections/cordovan-boots/products/d6844c-wing-tip-boot-color-8-shell-cordovan

>>18528524
>>18528530
this is a boot general not "post your fetish" general

Who makes shoes like this except in a harness boot style and what should it cost?
https://youtu.be/p2pwmAi9ABs

>>18528804
No one. That's just a shoemaker making a statement piece.

Do these need to be resoled yet?

>>18528851
press the most worn part. is it spongey?

>>18528853
I just bought them off ebay. I’ll check when they get here. If it is spongy will they need one?

>>18527276
Not only that but the retard seems to have actually changed all the classic chromexcel service boots into having those 9 smol dressy eyelets? I know that's where he wants to take the company but strange that he wouldn't still at least keep the classic service boots in chromexcel as they were.

>>18528857
yes and when you do consider adding a rubber topy

>>18528884
My brown cxl pair have the 5 small eyelets and 4 hooks and I hate them. Wish they were just the normal 7 large eyelets.

What's the consensus on Wolverine 1000 miles? I need something lug sole and smooth toe that ships in under 2 months and is poor friendly. Should I just get Red Wings instead?

>>18528709
you sure? I don't see the broguing

>>18528906
Wolverine took a dive in quality about a decade ago and are coasting on name brand (not for long). Consider Red Wings instead.

>>18528944
Ok thanks I didn't know they made roughnecks in black now I may have to get some of those.

>>18528888
>Wish they were just the normal 7 large eyelets.
no you don't
I want speed hooks on my all eyelet pairs

what is the greatest bang for buck chukka on the market?

rm williams gardeners in black is all i need

>>18529097
probably grant stone but even as a shill i think theirs looks a little clumsy
maybe astorflex if you can find them

>>18529111
well forget about them because the brand has gone to shit
there was a discussion on this or last or the before that thread

>>18529097
If you can catch some of the UK/Euro brands on sale like Loake 1880, Carlos Santos, TLB, Trickers, etc. they make some good chukkas

>>18529219
>bang for buck
>Loake 1880, Carlos Santos, TLB, Trickers, etc
based retard

>>18529299
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