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>>18521087
>i'm gatekeeping this shit
come on bro drop some names
I want to get started with clone houses but I want to get the good stuff

i always tell people im wearing the og when its a clone and they never know the difference

Redpill me on z-14. I enjoy it but I need to know if I'm thinking wrong

>>18521105
>spray clone 9 times, spray original once
>can honestly say I'm wearing og if asked

>>18521099
french avenue liquid brun
lattafa mashrabya and asad bourbon
armaf cdnim

these are some good ones

>>18521105
well yeah poojeepeet, it's hard to smell the differenece through the internet

>>18521124
br540 is the absolute easiest fragrance to differentiate between clones and the orginal, making the dna of 540 wearable requires restraint thats not something that shitskins are capable of

>>18521124
thanks
french avenue seems interesting, have you tried azzure oud and spectre ghost?
>armaf cdnim
been looking for good dupes of fresh frags, is this the best one? I got the zara imagination clone and was very underwhelmed to say the least, thought maybe the arabs would have better stuff

>>18521134
i have azzure oud and i'm still in debate about this one
smells like passion fruit booze but in a good, weird way
dont blind buy, test first and dont expect it to be appealing to normies
idk about spectre ghost
>cdnim
idk what fresh means to you but if cdnim would be a dude, it would be pic rel

>>18521141
>dont blind buy
I have a sample of oud maracuja and it's pretty good but not good enough to justify the price
>idk what fresh means to you
something that shines in hot weather basically

>>18521144
the closest thing to fresh for warm weather i have is rue broca hooked azure which is a copy of rasasi hawas ice which is a copy of paco rabanne invictus
smells good and i can still feel it on me after a 9 hour shift at the office with the AC blowing on the back of my head for hours

>>18521152
>a dupe of a dupe
kek. frankly I'm glad clone houses are getting so much traction
not a fan of invictus but thanks anyway

*mogs everything in your vicinity*

Montale and Mancera. Everyone shits on them so I'm inclined to believe they have some underrated stuff. Which ones are good?

>>18521183
Montale:
>Full Incense
>Black Aoud
>Dark Aoud
are okay if you don't expect artisan (oud) quality from them
all Mancera frags are shit

>>18521185
>artisan (oud) quality
I'd be retarded to expect that. Thoughts on Oud Tobacco? It's supposed to be like Blonde Amber
>all Mancera frags are shit
How come? They got tons of em are you telling me not even one is worth taking a look at

>>18521183
I see a dozen Cederat Boise partials come up for sale every week so I'm inclined to believe that one is probably trash
>>18521170
Cool scent but I wouldn't go that far

>>18521170
Is it stronger than Baccarat Rouge?

>>18521194
The BR540 dna has been memed to hell and back anyway and I doubt anything is actually better than the original. I've got OfG as a somewhat more masculine extremely cheap twist on it and that's sufficient for me

>>18521193
>Oud Tobacco
no clue, probably sweet as fuck, test it yourself and tell us what it's like, thanks
>are you telling me not even one is worth taking a look at
yes

There are so many amazing frags with rich, deep notes of oud, woods, amber, leather, sweet or boozy accords and whatnot. But pretty much all of these frags are only suitable for winter so it's hard to justify owning more than a couple. What a shame

>>18521202
>pretty much all of these frags are only suitable for winter
wrong

>>18521202
Another reason why Vetiver is the all weather goat note

>>18521203
Would you unironically wear a heavy oud rose or ambery tobacco frag in 35°C sunny weather?

>>18521207
yes

>>18521194
CB isn't that bad. The first impression is definitely off-putting, but it calms down after sitting for a few weeks and becomes a decent scent. I still wouldn't buy it or any Mancera.

>>18521202
Rec a scent with rich, deep notes of oud, woods, amber, leather, sweet or boozy accords?

>>18521185
artisan oud has terrible quality on average.

>>18521211
Jubilation XXV, Interlude Man, Grand Soir, Santal Royal, Tobacco Honey, Cherry Oud, The Night, Les Sables Roses
Not all notes present in all these scents obviously

>>18521202
>only suitable for winter so it's hard to justify owning more than a couple
True, I already have 10 and a couple more and I should be set.

>>18521215
Damn I only have one of those. Cheers anon.

>>18521196
no, they are similair in strength, but ganymede can be more grating to people on avg.

>>18521197
what are you even trying to convey? in regards to what?

>>18521202
depends on the season length in your country init, also it's not like there is that many great super hot weather fragrances anyway, so it's normal for your collection to skew towards the heavier stuff

just bought a real sandalwood out of curiosity
It smells like salty vagina

>>18521246
are there unsalted vaginas?

>>18521245
>it's not like there is that many great super hot weather fragrances anyway
wrong again

>>18521261
YOU ARE LE WRONG AGAIN.
slit your throat plebbitor, or atleast try to make your arguments more appealing with some examples

>>18521266
lurk moar (or just read the previous thread), retard

>>18521087
>you're expecting 1:1 replicas
Your words, not mine.
>the point of clones isn't to be the same as the originals
If you say so.
So anyway, since you seem to have a great deal of great arab frags/clones in mind, do let us know which ones you think are worthwhile and we can discuss frags and scents instead of brands and teams.
>I'm gatekeeping
The fact you're failing to do the only (very easy) thing that would prove your point beyond a shadow of doubt forces me to conclude that you can't, because the frags you have in mind aren't good.
>your moms a whore
My mother's been wearing Chance since 2010, even if she was a whore you'd clearly go for a lebanese girl who looks 90% like her.

>>18521245
I live in a Mediterranean coastal city and I only like cold weather scents, I hate most freshies
Man I think I'll just do what the Arabs do and douse myself in an Amouage oud even in the middle of summer huh.

>>18521270
based

>>18521269
>My mother's been wearing Chance since 2010, even if she was a whore you'd clearly go for a lebanese girl who looks 90% like her.
total devastation

>>18521268
>arguably 4 great hot weather scents in the entire thread
>look at this abundance of great warm weather scents

>>18521269
>My mother's been wearing Chance since 2010, even if she was a whore you'd clearly go for a lebanese girl who looks 90% like her.
lol. LMAO

>>18521259
Yeah...i guess

>>18521269
>My mother's been wearing Chance since 2010, even if she was a whore you'd clearly go for a lebanese girl who looks 90% like her.
kek

>>18521269
>you'd clearly go for a lebanese girl who looks 90% like her

>>18521269
Lebanese girls are cute though

>>18521129
>indians out of nowhere

Had s*x with my g*rman girlfriend. Can't get enough of her blue eyes. Sotd Drakkar Noir.

>$120 + ship for Body Kouros
worth?

My nose asks for variety but my wallet begs for refill.

best frags for a vampire?

>>18521368
PASSAGE D' ENFER

Why does some men fragrance smells like baby power like straight up baby power? I brought a flanker of La Nuit de L'Homme called Intense and I almost thought it was a women's fragrance.

Anyone try Or Black? It looks like you can order the current formula on Pascal Morabito's website.

Got a bottle of Aramis Tuscany Per Uomo. Predictably very fatherly but surprisingly very sweet and smooth. I always credit smoothness to sandalwood so this must have lots of it. The citrus top notes are so fleeting I could honestly not decipher them because of the age of the bottle but it was nice if brief. You get some nice smooth leather notes, I could not pick apart the spices, typical of its vintage the scent is very uniform but the spices are indeed nice. You get a little oakmoss as it settles but not much. Usually through use I can get the scent disassociated but I don't think this will ever be anything but a cozy gentle dad scent.

Any futuristic mechanical technological frags?

>>18521371
Its paysage d’hiver

Are perfumes carcinogenic?

>>18521420
Lets assume the following
>1 spray = 0.1ml
>Extrait concentration of 25% perfume oil
>Perfume oil has the same density as water (it's lighter but this is for the sake of math)
>40 line formula with all ingredients of equal portion
>15 ingredients with carcinogenic potential

Lets say you arent a sissy sprayer and wear 10 sprays per day only on pulse points, so 1ml of perfume sprayed on the skin resulting in 250mg of perfume oil on the skin, roughly 94mg of which is carcinogenic. If we use benzene as a model carcinogen, which works given that it is a volatile chemical like perfume oils (it readily evaporates), my searching indicates that up to 20% of benzene applied to the skin is absorbed. So applying 20% absorption to our model would result in about a 20mg per day exposure to carcinogenic compounds at the high end. If we look back to studies on benzene and assume that perfume oil ingredients is as carcinogenic as benzene, this would definitely put you in the exposure level that is associated with increased risk of cancer, if you used perfume as I described every single day for decades.
The reality is more likely that you aren't using that many sprays of extrait directly on your skin every day, as well as that the IFRA is doing at least a somewhat okay job at weeding out dangerous chemicals, so fewer carcinogenic ingredients (or a smaller concentration of them) are allowed in perfume. These ingredients are also likely only a fraction of the carcinogenicity of benzene, lowering the risk even more. So I would say no, perfumes are not carcinogenic.

>>18521387
Decided to double down in case I die tomorrow and open up my boxed Gucci Envy for Men. It starts off very sweet but a lot more modern than I expected with the ginger and mandarin. My definition of modern being post 1990s, and into the 2000s when ginger and mandarin becomes ubiquitous. Those notes are pretty strong and linear hiding other notes behind them, you get a peeks of the carnation, leather, and woodiness which is when the fragrance can rightfully be labelled as a bit dated. I'll be honest, other than the sweetness there nothing I might find offensive in the fragrance, but there is also nothing that pulls me in. It's nice, it's well done, maybe during release it was more notable but right now it seems a bit uneventful. I try not to expect much from fragrances and this is definitely something that you can wear on a relaxing evening but I want a little more of a kick. In terms of performance I can tell Envy will last and project enough, but in terms of unique and captivating notes I don't think it scratches my itch. I'll keep trying it and maybe in a chill autumn evening it will blossom. To be clear I don't think this is the fault of the perfume but of my tastes leaning into dryer and less refined scents. It's settling down into a smokier and leathery scent, just not enough. If it was a lot smokier with the ginger toned way down and maybe more indolic florals it would be more my tastes but it would also be a different fragrance, a real "if my grandmother had wheels" situation. I can see why people like it, it performs well and just works, it would make a great signature scent. Sometimes I just wish I could skip to the end. The base notes are nice and smooth, just have to eat the sweet ginger dessert on the top notes first.

>>18521420
Very. Just don't spray your neck or anywhere close to your head because of your cervical lymph nodes, also avoid your chest because of your thymus. Stick to spraying your wrists and your shirt. I also spray the inside of my elbows because I'm a wild boy.

Any thoughts on Bel Ami and Bel Ami Vetiver?

Is saffron note-speak for "540 clone?" I've smelled real saffron and it's so subtle, it has to be a joke that it's a top note on an ass geyser like baccarat and it's clones.

>>18521466
Bel Ami Vetiver smells like burnt sweet popcorn. I don't like it at all. The OG is fine but something about the drydown kinda sucks

The Dior Sauvage of the 20s or just a pretty bottle?

>>18521559
Neither. Scent is decent but not a classic or even in Sauvage's league. Cap feels cheap, not even magnetic
There is no Sauvage of the 20s for now. Brands seem to be pushing towards masculine florals as the current trend (Prada, YSL) but it's not really catching on, and it's definitely not new.

What are the best Amouages?

>>18521563
Smelled Outlander last week, I get the hype

I just found out the fucking note I despise. It's not citrus as I previously believed. It's mint. IT'S FUCKING MINT. i hate mint.

>>18521581
You unironically need to be a medbvll or some kind of middle easterner to pull it off as a man. Some blonde guy wearing BR will inevitably come off as effeminate
Same thing for the oud + rose combo

>>18521582
When I first smelled BR 540 the only person I picture wearing it as a man is some rich nepo broker or a mafia boss with thick accent

>>18521582
>oud + rose combo
What is the best oud rose on the market?
Bonus if cheap/arab clone (yes I know it won't be real oud I don't care)

>>18521563
I like their incense / balsamic frags, so I'd say:
Interlude & Interlude Black Iris
Overture
Purpose 50
Search

Royal Tobacco and King Blue are also worth trying. Haven't smelled the Essences collection yet.

>>18521590
Creed Royal Oud

>>18521563
>wasting money on Amouage

>>18521563
>wasting money on Amouage

>>18521590
Al Rehab Oud & Rose
dirt cheap but photorealistic dry rose scent

>>18521563
jubilation and reflection

Just bought 200ml of Drakkar Noir and you can't do anything about it.

>>18521563
Interlude Black Iris is very, very nice.
>>18521582
BR540 smells like a sugar-glazed vagina and should not ever be worn by men.
>>18521659
Vintage, I hope....

>>18521605
Not enough Bürgergeld for Amouage, coomermutt?

damn uhhh bleu de chanel kind of fucks...

>>18521659
This. Best fougere created yet. I saving money for a bespoke scent, hire a perfumer to create a niche, much more natural smelling Drakkar Noir.

Your favourite scent on a woman?

>>18521671
LADDM would be the sexiest thing ever on a brunette

>>18521661
> Vintage, I hope.
Nope. I think modern doesn't smell different enough to justify paying a premium for a vintage bottle. I'm a smoker anyways, I can't smell shit. But I know when I got Drakkar on.

>>18521194
>Cederat Boise
It's their most popular and hyped fragrance. It's compared to aventus, but it's a weird fruity vanilla leather scent.

>>18521671
baraonda, roses, rose jam with musky-alcoholic edge

>>18521640
>Al Rehab Oud & Rose
Thanks. No oud accord listed given the name I suppose it's just fragrantica sucking as usual

>>18521202
>boozy
I think it also depends on if it's dry or humid heat and the quality of the fragrance. It's usually the cheap synthetic notes that become sickly sweet and nasty.

>>18521683
>humid heat
Can you even wear anything at that point? I'm guessing by humid you mean tropical not med or anything

>>18521659
based

>>18521667
>damn uhhh bleu de chanel kind of sucks...
ftfy

>>18521671
Mitsouko EDT

>>18521672
>>18521680
these are also nice

Are there any perfume "influencers" that can be trusted to not be brand shills or are all of them garbage?

>>18521696
all of them are garbage
you can watch Jeremy for the comedy but that's it

>>18521698
I want to discover new stuff to try out but it's sad that you can't trust anyone to recommend things because they're actually good vs. because they're paid to

>>18521696
I follow Teddy Haugen even though he's kind of cringe, he's been doing a series on which brands are hype and which are actually decent and I agree with most of it. He also shits on PDM a lot which I haven't seen any other influencer do.

>>18521696
I watch fragrance flan he doesn't seem to be a shill but he's kind of zoomer-y when it comes to tastes

>>18521699
it pains me to say this but /frag/ is probably the best place to discover stuff
you can also read Luca Turin's blog but that's behind a paywall and nowadays he mainly cares for artisan stuff and not for shitting on mainstream slop

>>18521705
/frag/ is heavily biased in favor of old man scents and shits on everything popular just because it's popular

>>18521706
wrong

>>18521696
seldomly often has decent taste, sadly he fell BIG TIME for the toskovat meme

trying to decide between guerlain homme and eau sauvage, what do I think?

>>18521706
there is still few people here with intresting tastes, you can just ignore the VINTAGE posters if you don't find those types of frags appealing or you are a sissy in your teens/early 20s (doesn't mean you shouldn't get your nose on masterpieces like kouros, lapidus pour homme or antaeus)
captcha : myhrr

The only /frag/ recommendation I liked is Kouros, but I can't find it online so I just settled for Lapidus PH

Arabs actually have it all figured out. Light scent profiles are shit, you should wear the densest, heaviest, most sensual fragrances at all times even in blistering heat.

>>18521669
Have you tried Bon Monsieur?
If not, you really should.
>are there any influencers that can be trusted not to be brand shills
No.
They make their living from shilling products and brands.

How do we keep this brand unknown for the mass public?

>>18521671
Drakkar noir

>>18521727
I already own most similar smelling Drakkar Noir scents(Lomani, Caesars, Dakar, Duc de Vervins). Bon Monsieur is great, but it's woodier, heavier on the sandalwood.

>>18521727
Why not buy Platinum Egoiste instead and save money?

>>18521671
aramis aramis. I want my gf to smell like a boy thats about to be embraced by a MAN

>>18521728
it's already sold almost nowhere despite being LVMH

>>18521728
Do nothing except enjoy them and hope the sloptubers don't get onto them.

>>18521728
Wdym, it's been a mainstream brand for quite a while

>>18521713
why not both?

is noir de noir considered a gourmand?

>>18521764
I wouldn't say so, no

>>18521765
maybe im just a noselet. i get sort of a chocolate vibe from it along with everything else it has goin on

>>18521767
that's the patchouli

Have any of you tried Ombre Nomade? How is it scent-wise, disregarding the price?

>>18521770
good point

>>18521771
it's pleasant, the new LV collection has this oud-leather-benzoin drydown DNA thats more intresting than majority of designers and yet is completely non-offensive.
If you want a balanced and tame fruity-oud-leather it's one of the better options available.

>>18521671
Unironicaly kouros smells divine on women, ateast the drydown

How does Sycomore compare to Guerlain Vetiver? Is just a gigaexpensive version of the best vetiver of all time?

>>18521671
This honeyed piss scent.

>>18521791
no, Sycomore is more rooty vetiver and has no tobacco

>>18521782
Is it the best of their ouds, or are Sables Roses or others better?
>If you want a balanced and tame fruity-oud-leather
Looking for a signature worthy oud to wear daily, which performs well and is not generic but not offensive

Can we discuss incense or things to make your living space smell good here? What are some ways to make my apartment smell great. Currently I mostly just use nag champa incense which gives the place a bit of a Bohemian feel although I'd like to class things up a bit.

>>18521605
trannies are disgusting

>>18521800
I use Ishom brand smudge bricks, they're good quality, and like a dhoop cone, the fragrance isn't complicated by the smell of the wooden stick.

>>18521795
I feel like you are severely overhyping yourself for the oud in this fragrance, this is basicaly a upscaled and perfected montale DNA, and yeah it is their best offering,

>>18521816
I'm not saying I want something otherworldly or groundbreaking, just something worth being a signature/daily scent.

>>18521826
unless you work in higher finance it will be unique enough to be a worthy signature for sure, but you really are paying 350€ for a perfected montale DNA

>>18521795
Demachy did Colonia Oud for AdP which has some glowing reviews and seems to be among the lesser worn releases from the house. Not terribly expensive too. I would avoid LV fragrance especially ON because they are popular among blacks. I also have a sample of Oud Maximus from Bortnikoff (which gets a lot of hate on here but anyway) and while it is very strong and I was expecting it to smell like feces its really not terribly offensive. Could be worth picking up some of the tamer ouds from them like Mysterious Oud if you’re already considering stuff in the LV price bracket.
>>18521800
I have a bunch of incenses I got from a domestic canadian company, they aren’t very strong unfortunately (except the musk which is nice) I also have a lavender and a pine incense i really enjoy, i forget where from though. I picked up some charcoal for burning the frankincense and myrrh resins and cedar powder i have but they burn extremely fast and set off my smoke detector.

>>18521828
>you really are paying 350€ for a perfected montale DNA
You mean montale has something similar enough? Is there no discernible difference in quality?

>>18521831
Thanks for the recs, I don't live in a major town or anything so the only "high end" scent DNA I smell regularly here is BR540, otherwise it's just the usual Sauvage, SWY, Le Male flankers or whatever. The nice thing about living in a <1M population city is that pretty much any fragrance outside of the Sephora top 20 will come off as unique.
Sounds good, I'll try to see if I can sample those. So far I haven't really tried any funky/fecal ouds, unless the Frederic Malle desert gems qualify (I didn't find them very offensive or even challenging though). But I'd rather not experiment for now and stick to a relatively clean, pleasant oud

>>18521832
no and no. It's just the presentation and the qualities of the oud are very much similiar
Just get your nose and that lv frag and go smell some montale aoud fragrance

>>18521849
Oh ok. I've actually never smelled a Montale frag, the brand isn't really carried anywhere here

>>18521852
Arabians Rose Leather
Black Aoud
Honey Aoud
should be fairly easy to get a 2ml sample of any of those for like 4€ and it will teach you how to recognize the montale DNA very quickly

>>18521665
Nah, just don't want to smell like a Talahon.
Christians go for Drakkar Noir or Incense fragrances.

>>18521857
I will wear Jubilation XXV to divine liturgy and you will not stop me

>>18521594
>purpose 50
gr8 b8 m8

>>18521800
Cedar/sandalwood balls. I put them under my pillows and hang some on my door in a bag. I get a nice whiff of forest from time to time. Sometimes I add drops of lavender for good sleep and it lasts for a week.

Just be careful if you have pets they may swallow it if it's on a reachable height.

>>18521857
you retard clearly never smelled any amouage fragrance since 80% of their line-up are incense based

>>18521943
I'm into cold churchy incenses, not in the warm/oriental/rosy middle eastern way.

>>18521677
>I can't smell shit.
>Drakkar
We know.

>>18521705
>Luca Turin
Stop shilling this jew, he has never contributed anything to perfumery.

>>18521959
kek why the hate?
did he fuck your mom or something?

>>18521954
Mutt is a faggot in a league of his own but don’t knock Drakkar.

Is Drakkar Noir the father of aromatic fougeres or is there something more prototypical?

>>18521961
I already said he is jewish and has never contributed anything, what more do you want?

>>18521967
aramis did it 20 years before,

Any thoughts on 1725 by Histoires de Parfums? Is it similar to Le Male?

>>18521952
What are your favorite incense scents?

>>18521967
Cussons Imperial Leather Classic cologne is an aromatic fougere that was originally made for the Russian Imperial Court in the 1760s. A more recent and well known aromatic fougere, yet still older than Drakkar Noir, would be Paco Rabanne pour Homme.

>>18521986
no, it isn't

>>18521987
Marc Gebauer - Berserker
Casbah
Unum Lavs
Murkwood

Actually looking at Amouage fragrance, Memoir Man and Search are actually really good. Not into the oriental smelling scents from that house.

>>18521987
Marc Gebauer - Berserker
Casbah
Unum Lavs
Murkwood

Looking at Amouage fragrance, Memoir Man and Search are actually really good. Not into the oriental smelling scents from that house.

>>18521973
wrong
(btw his main contribution to the world of perfumery is fucking your mom and i think you should be respectful when you're talking about your step-dad, anon)

>>18521987
One Man Show - Ruby Edition

>>18522003
He's literally Jewish, what are you talking about?

Parfumo finally has a compare feature.

>>18521986
Yes, very.

It’s very disappointing to see how much this thread has devolved. Any alternative forums where I might discuss fragrances?

>>18522117
>>>/reddit/
bye

>>18522117
I mean outside of less sample reviews in every thread, more vintage retards and having 1 more active shitskin than usual the thread has been the same since 2020 arguably 2018ish.

As a parting gift I’ll leave something everyone here will love, the formula to the messageboards favorite fragrance; below is a formula that gets very close to Dior Homme intense.

30% iso e Super
15% Methyl dihydrojasmonate
10% Galaxolide
5.8% Diethyl phthalate
5% Ethyl linalool
5% Bergamot oil ( or Bergamote 000136 which is used in the real one, but I think the real bergamot is a vast improvement)
5% Lavandin grosso oil
5% Musk ketone
3% Linalyl acetate
3% Vertofix Coeur
3% Methyl dihydrojasmonate high cis 70%
2% Alpha isomethyl ionone
1% Patchouli oil Indonesia
1% Bacdanol
1% Ethyl linalyl acetate
1% Coumarin
1% Butylphenyl methylpropional
1% cis 3 Hexenyl salicylate
0.5% Olibanum oil
0.5% beta Ionone
0.3% Ethyl vanillin
0.3% Orris butter
0.2% Butylated hydroxytoluene
0.2% Haitian vetiver oil
0.1% alpha Irone
0.1% Delta damascone

You can use this to create your very own Dior homme intense, I hope it inspires someone.

I’ll be back once the quality goes up again, as most of you people are very friendly.

>>18522129
>not dior homme parfum
yikes.

>>18522135
It was my understanding that everyone here seems to be enamored with DHI

>>18522137
well yeah, but what we NEED is dior homme parfum.

Mfw poojeet drove away the most valuable poster this thread has ever had

>>18521671
jizz club

Portrait of a Lady didn't even last an hour on my skin. I wish I was joking. Someone tell me why this has happened

>>18522145
It lasts, but you just went nose blind to it.

>>18522141
Early bargain spotters had much more value than the guy whose dream is to be on the sticky with his scent group guides

>>18522152
I didn't. I had a different fragrance on my other arm which I could smell perfectly. A family member confirmed that portrait of a lady was barely there compared to the other arm with the second fragrance (applied at the same time)

There is something wrong with my skin

>>18522156
That’s perfumer anon, he works for Robertet and probably made Rojas frags

>>18521800
my go-to's are Aesop for home fragrances. i like their incense sticks and their room sprays.

>>18522164
Perfumer anon hasn't been around in a while, he's not the crybaby complaining about leaving. Quite sad you don't recognize his writing style.

>>18522129
Thanks

>>18521420
I put the DHI formula above into a robot and told it to determine health hazards with a focus on carcinogenic potential, here is the summary it gave me. Maybe you will find it interesting.


Bottom line (cancer focus)

Recognized cancer concern at normal fragrance exposures: none on this list, with the special case that bergamot oil (and other furocoumarin-rich citrus oils) can contribute to photo-carcinogenesis under UV if not used within IFRA phototoxicity limits / if bergapten isn’t minimized.


Often-asked about items:

DEP: not treated as a carcinogen by major authorities; negative/limited animal cancer data at tested conditions.

Nitro musks (e.g., musk ketone): IARC Group 3 (not classifiable); some older animal signals but inconsistent; other hazard classes drive restrictions.

BHT vs BHA: BHT is Group 3 (not classifiable); BHA carries stronger listings (separate compound).

Lilial (BMHCA): EU ban is for reproductive toxicity, not cancer.

My personal rating for white florals as a man:

>Lily
>Jasmine
>Lily of the Valley
>Neroli (more citrusy for me but whatever)
>Gardenia
>Frangipani
>Tuberose

>>18522280
ranking*

Ganymede smells really cheap and dated, makes me laugh that this is supposed to be luxurious and futuristic.

Tangentially related to fragrances.
How do you use it with sunscreen?
I live in a very hot, sunny area. UV index is always 10-11. Try to avoid being outside unless necessary. I use La Roche-Posay Anthelios (less greasy otc that still works that I've found), reapplying every 2-3 hours. 4 at the very worst.
So frag/, do you also reapply your perfume after sunscreen?

>>18522305
I apply mine minutes after applying my unscented sunscreen. It works as a moisturizer too

>>18522305
La-Roche Posay Anthelios is ass. Didn't work for shit on my face. If you find that you aren't 100% happy with the oil control and feel like you are settling then I must recommend the Eucerin oil control spf 50+ (the European one, not the American one - yes, it's important. The American formulation is ass)

>This is the average dupe hater
Wtf I love clones now

>>18522324
> the american formulation is ass
Yeah, that's the problem. Between Anthelios and NA Eucerin, I prefer Anthelios.
Also, comparatively, the anthelios "for body" is better than the one "for face".
Fortunately my face is not that oily with the sunscreen, I just want maximum protection atm (without the whitescreen of something like Blue Lizard)

Sotd Green Irish Tweed

SOTD: Joop Homme

I love Tom Ford Noir Extreme Parfum, I also used to like LNDL Bleu Electrique
Can anyone recommend stuff in the same vein?

>>18522129
Cool, thanks.

>>18521696
andres perfume man turn english dub on. he's in his 40s though and he shills his own perfume

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GYQEfSMYIM

>>18521696
No.
Influencers all make a living from shilling products and brands.

>>18522012
FragrantiMAGA lost again

what fragrance is the 1990s in a bottle?

hard mode: no ck one

>>18522471
Acqua di Gio
Platinum Egoiste
Cool Water (although released in 1988)
L'Eau D'Issey
Burberry for Men
Le Male
Nikos Sculpture (in Europe)

>>18522471
The Dreamer is one of them

>>18522471
Le male.

>>18522453
I tried to stop using fragrantica but the note ranking is too useful for a noselet like me. When parfumo puts numbers in the notes instead of barely perceptible size differences I'll stop using fragrantica.

fragrantica is truly the biggest brainlet community on the internet.

Anyone here tried Iris Ghalia? A bottle just came up for $950.

>>18522471
Dune PH

>>18522475
Current version bears little resemblance to the original thoughbeit

>>18522474
Fierce by A&F

>>18522538
Just a cheap version of Platinum Egoiste.

>>18522471
L'eau d'Issey PH
Le Male
Acqua di Gio
Platinum Egoiste
Allure Homme
Joop! Homme

>>18522538
launched in 2002

What makes it so good?

>>18522559
Sports is better

What is the absolute best gourmand? Designer, and niche

>>18522559
Is this even good or a meme? What is it like?

>>18522535
That sucks, I love the current version as it is the only one that I smelled.
But I guess the original one had stronger tobacco note, would be nice to be able to get both versions.
Still a great frag.

>>18522574
Not a fan of gourmands and I don't know if the modern version holds up but vintage Angel Men is quite nice. You should try it at least to know the original that everyone copied.

>>18522574
Too vague a question. There are coffee gourmands, nutty gourmands, the ubiquitous sweet gourmands, and a few rare ‘other’ gourmands (I’m blanking at the moment).

>>18522582
Don’t feel too bad, I really enjoy The Dreamer and made a point to find an unopened vintage bottle, the vintage is a little earthier and perhaps has slightly better longevity, but not wildly different.

>>18522620
>SOTD: The Dreamer

I liked Creed Silver Mountain Water because it had a sharp addictive smell like gasoline. What is that compound? Any fragrances similar to that effect?

>>18522672
violet leaf? lucky you, for me it just smells like cucumber. Another well known use of that note is in Dior Fahrenheit

>>18522676
People tell me SMW smells like pen ink but I don’t smell that at all. It has an opening citrus note which ends with a floral smell and a sinister lingering gasoline aroma, which is amazing because I want to keep my brain cells but I love smelling gas

>>18522688
It's the blackcurrant/cassia which has similar compounds to violet leaf. If you want a gassy opening, try older versions of Fahrenheit. Newer ones are reformulated to hell and back, mine literally smells like gas station soap.

>royal oud is the best creed fragrance by a mile
>there are no good dupes of it

>>18522697
Agreed, though dupes are for faggots.
SOTD: Patou pour Homme

>>18522697
That's not Viking

>>18522697
Not really. There are not good Creeds, at least ones that are worth buying. My favorite is probably Original Vetiver, but it's almost identical to Mugler Cologe, so obviously not worth it. GIT is similar to Cool Water and Fougere L'Aube etc.

>>18522754
t. Noselet

>>18521389
Ironically Neandertal Light, it smells like a new PS5 mixed with blood.

>>18521389
GITS
That one frag by CDG that's supposed to smell like electronics
>>18522574
BR540
Fat Electrician
Lost Cherry if you consider it a gourmand

>>18522574
Opium and Black Opium, possibly some of the other flankers as well.

>>18522784
>gourmand
>BR540
>Fat Electrician

NUCLEAR HAPPENNING
DIOR HOMME 2020 EDP VERSION MADE BY MFK INCOMING

>>18522819
lol, lmao, rofl even
also source?

>>18522745
>dupes are for faggots.
sounds like cope to justify spending 5x the price

>>18522819
No relation to DHI 2025?

>>18522822
>justify spending

>>18522626
This is good I should own this again

>>18522754
Yeah there is Viking royal oud aventus and git are all great you’re just being a contrarian retard

>>18522672
i'm wearing SMW and mine does not have a sharp smell to it? it reminds me of dove soap desu

>>18522792
BR540 contains heaps of ethyl maltole and smells like cotton candy among other things.
Fat Electrician has a creamy chestnut/sandalwood accord and even its page on the ELDO website calls it a gourmand frag.
If those aren't gourmands I don't know what is.

>>18522899
br540 is not a gourmand it's a chypre, no matter how much you dislike it, thats the truth, it's super deconstructed post modern chypre.
>>18522819
ew.

>>18522897
Probably the famous creed inconsistencies among bottles

>>18522857
what did he mean by this?

>>18522915
it's regularly in the 70s here as we go into September. Is it cool enough to wear YSL l'homme edp yet

>>18522899
>its page on the ELDO website calls it a gourmand frag
where?

>acqua di gio edt 2024 reformula
i dropped by the mall and got a few sprays and really liked it. im not familiar with the og scent (they dont have it in the store to check myself), so are they that much different? i heard the og is more floral, which i dont like, or are the differences subtle? the old one is so cheap now though

>100ml No5 for $30
>will never use it but dont want to pass up the deal but also want to save my dosh for Body Kouros
sigh

>>18522992
thank elohim i'm not you

Is Le Labo Santal still effay? I asked someone what they think of it and they said I smelled like a hotel lobby.

>>18523040
I still use it but rarely on its own. I layer it with Dior Homme

what's she wearing?

>>18523049
A noose.

Sotd: L'Homme Rochas

Chad wears Sauvage, Brad wears BDC

>>18523074
Brad has moved on to Myslf

>>18523074
safe everydayman blind buy christmas gift scents for AFCs (average frustrated chumps) are not what chad would wear.

>she

SOTD: Guerlain Vetiver EDT

>>18523084
Hah. I got a bottle for Christmas like 4 years ago. It's still almost full.

>>18523049
I love big naturals.

SOTD : Carolina Herrera 212 Heroes

>tfw having a GF but not a GF with balls

SOTD Creed Royal Oud

>>18522902
>BR540 is a chypree
There's no citrus in the top, barely any oakmoss, a lot of ethyl maltole and the vanilla-labdanum amber accord.
It smells enormously sweet.
It's a gourmand frag.
>no matter how much you dislike it
I like it, and I don't see what this has to do with whether it's part of one or other family.
>>18522957
Somewhere in the HTML, because it shows up on search engines, see pic related.

>tfw having a GF but not a GF with balls

SOTD Creed Royal Oud

>tfw having a GF but not a GF with balls

SOTD Creed Royal Oud

>>18522792
Fat electrician is a gourmand, it's just a good gourmand which is so rare in this genre that it might cause confusion

>>18523176
this

>>18523049
That's a man btw.

>>18523110
>BR 540 is a gourmand
Close, but I think it's more of floriental with accidental gourmand properties

>sotd: malle french lover
good shit, Bourdon was (is) a genius

>>18523205
>french lover
Is great, but too smoky. Royal Oud is smoother, an european take of Oud(no stinky Oud or no Rose-Oud).

>>18523206
>Is great
yes
>too smoky
no
>Royal Oud
lol, lmao even

Just bought a couple of Shiro fragrances in Japan, including “Smoke and Leather” which I found to be excellent. Great incense note. They also had this thing called “Incense Clear” but it was way too musky. I tested CDG Kyoto as one anon recommended but I was probably 80% anosmic to it. Must be the Iso.

>>18523074
>>18523081
Chad has moved on to LV Imagination because that's what tiktok said to get

>>18522012
I really wish they would invest in their app more
Its still a buggy mess

>>18523277
Is Imagination really the new Sauvage hype wise? I would think the price would be dissuasive for most

>>18522129
NOOOOO PERFUMERANON DONT LEAVE US

Give me the best synthetic oud fragrances right now. Yes I said synthetic, I can't afford real oud

>>18523283
Sospiro Erba Oud
Its like an oud freshie

>>18523279
It's the new Aventus, MYSLF is the new Sauvage

>>18523292
I tried the zara clone of imagination and was thoroughly unimpressed, is the real one actually good?

>>18523294
Zaras smells like dirty in comparison, it doesn't have the soapy rich person fresh out of the shower vibe like Imagination

>>18523298
Huh. There's an LV boutique next to my apartment, I should go check out their stuff sometime

>>18523298
Has anyone made a good clone yet

I'm glad I'm about to finish this. It's not pleasant and the made in Spain version doesn't last long unless it's really over sprayed.

Worst perfume and bathroom scent ever.

>>18523329
>hates frag
>uses up 50ml bottle anyway
based retard

>>18523330
what else would you do with it?

>>18523292
there is no chance myself moves onto become the new thing, it's too tame, too clean, too unisex

>>18523283
FM The Night

>>18523332
i don't buy frags i don't like you could or sell it or give it away if you hate it
simple as

>>18523333
digits of truth

>>18523333
What do you anticipate the "new thing" to be? Nothing as iconic as Sauvage has come out in recent years. Sweet gourmands have gained traction but they're not wearable in all seasons

Do people really like smelling like Barbasol all day?

I have Myslf edp, Light Blue and Polo Black.

These are 'office safe' but I want something that is decidedly professional and not sweet.

>>18523340
kek, i actually smell like Barbasol right now
it's incredible

>>18523339
nta but a big brand doing some akigalawood slop could be the next big thing imho

>>18523339
trust me, people absolutely use some of the gourmands in summer, scandal pour homme edt is one of the most common scents I come across in uni from the younger students.
If I had to guess, it's something "molecular", probably made by Bisch.
However, we are in an era of microtrends, where almost nothing sticks, and giga zoomers are dabbling in anything and everything, so I wouldn't be surpriseed if we had to wait 10 more years for THE new THING after sauvage, considering that it was 20 years between le male and sauvage

>>18523348
>a big brand doing some akigalawood slop
It's already been done though, kenzo for example

>>18523346
grey vetiver, guerlain vetiver, terre d'Hermes, bois imperial.

>>18523353
How is Scandal? Inferior to the Le Male line?

>>18523354
>kenzo
>big brand
i'm thinking Dior, Chanel, YSL, etc.

>>18523354
1. kenzo is not considered on the normie radar, the fragrance would need to be HUGE, in order to actually elevate the status of kenzo.
2. the kenzo frags that bisch did have too much calypsone, too much akigala and are just not that good in general, calypsone in that dosage is too divisive.
3. they were also simply too cheap, that tacky bottle had no chance of becoming a closet staple in the current climate

>>18523365
Dior has tried something with the same vibe with its new DH line but it was too light, inoffensive and office-safe. YSL seems to want to go all out with unisex florals (MYSLF, Libre) and it's catching on pretty well although it's still pretty generic. Who knows though, everyone seems to love MYSLF, so maybe one of the flankers will end up being very hyped
Chanel is either dead or literally working on the new Sauvage seeing as they haven't released anything noteworthy since BdC which was the only frag that rivaled Sauvage in popularity
>>18523368
>that tacky bottle
There was a time when One Million was almost on Sauvage's level

>>18523363
in general the EDT whilst a bit on the sloppy-gourmand side, is well done, and not cloyingly sweet, if I were to compare it to the current le male offerings it would look like this:
le male le parfum > le male elixir > le male elixir absolu > scandal > le male > Le Beau Le Parfum > Le Beau > Le Beau Paradise Garden > ultramale > Le Beau Flower
og le male would be higher but current formulations are just sad.

>>18523378
Speaking of YSL they should've kept modernizing the LNDL line instead of discontinuing Bleu Electrique, that flanker was a designer 10/10 on the same level as D&G The One

>>18523378
>in the current climate
there was a time when reading comprehension was a thing

>>18523383
I still don't understand why they discontinued bleu electrique it genuinely was a 10/10 designer, bet it was kikes, they decided that the goym do not deserve such a great perfume in the mainstream, yet another humiliation ritual

>>18523381
I tried Le Beau but I could barely smell the coconut, to me it smelled very close to the OG Le Male, is this normal?
>le male le parfum
I don't get the obsession with iris, everyone uses it now, Givenchy, Valentino, Armani, Dior, JPG, it's everywhere and I don't understand why

>>18523385
>bet it was kikes
probably but you're wrong, it was axed because noone was buying it

>>18523385
I'm unironically wondering if I should get the arab dupe which is allegedly quite close to the real thing (Al Nashama Caprice). Bottle looks like a turd but if it can replicate even 80% of Bleu Electrique's magic it would be worth it
>>18523387
Seems weird, it was the most popular flanker while it was out, more popular than the OG even.

>>18523388
popularity on a mongolian throat singing imageboard doesn't translate to irl sales
jokes aside, they are probably not stupid enough to discontinue a cash cow frag without a valid reason (not selling well, key ingredient got banned/prohibitively expensive/hard to source, etc)

>>18523391
oh they are 100% stupid enough to do it, they pump-faked it's discontinuation twice

>>18523391
Wasn't it extremely popular in general?
>tfw we get stuff like Spicebomb Infrared EDP or whatever but gems get discontinued

Anything else in the vein of EdB worth trying? Spice, woods, resins, all that.

How long are you supposed to macerate arabslop before it becomes palatable

>>18523306
Game of Spades Full House is the best so far

>>18523414
lol.lmfao

>>18523419
That's not an answer

>>18523049
portrait of a gentleman

>>18523414
unless its made per order, there is no maceration period and what youre smelling out the box is what you get

Can a man pull off Black Orchid? I know it's marketed for women but I really like the chocolate oud combo, has anyone here wore it ?

>>18523439
Are the people reporting that lattafa stuff smells different after 3-6 months just placeboing themselves?

NEW THREAD
>>18523444
>>18523444
>>18523444
>>18523444

>>18523442
yeah, sure, why not?

>>18523414
Thats the thing, it doesnt.

>>18523329
I’ve been resisting the urge to pick this up recently and think I’ve finally committed to passing on it. It gets a lot of hype and is an interesting take on leather, but I’m fairly certain I would almost always reach for something else over this. Iron Duke when it’s cooler, Fahrenheit if it’s warmer.

I like the overall profile it’s just not quite enough to be better. This is also ignoring the presumption it’s discontinued.

>Captcha: PSWRD