Thread 18524702

Watch-on-wrist Edition

This thread offers a forum to discuss and debate wristwatches, pocketwatches, and clocks. Several members here are highly knowledgeable in specified areas of horology, so please contribute to the thread by asking questions and/or asking for advice if you are planning on purchasing a watch from an AD or the grey market. Please post pics of your watches here; it doesn't matter if it's worth 5$ or 5,000$, because there might be someone who wishes to eventually purchase the same model that you own and would love to hear some real-world advice regarding ownership. The experience matters the most, not the price.

Everyone is welcome in this thread, because we are all Frens here.

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>>18519270

>>18524702 (OP)
I did try to respond to a bunch of Anons in the previous thread, however it wouldn't let me post all of the responses in one go because it thinks my response is spam. I hope you are all doing well, staying in good health, and most importantly finding happiness in life.

You've all been missed, even you BitterAnon. I hope this thread is a great one!

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Poolex

>>18524719
Agreed - it would really suck if the 32xx movements are faulty due to a design flaw instead of just a few lemons. Thank goodness mine uses the older 31xx. What watch are you wearing today, Fren?

my main rotation as seen
>>18524675
first time posting in awhile, i think these threads used to be on /g/ if i'm not mistaken. anyway, i'm really into this 20 year old carabiner piece i got recently, dual time and stop watch with day of the week dial lol. it makes me want one of those timex with thermometer and compass built in.

does anyone like flip clocks?

the KING is back. It's fucking over. We WON.

>>18524702 (OP)
that looks good af
>>18524737
yeah i had one, but it broke. i always wonder where it been in the past, maybe in some shitty hotel or something. i'd get a new one but they're expensive as fuck

The coffee poster is actually homosexual.

>>18524702 (OP)
Holy based, we did it lads.

>>18524702 (OP)
Do we all agree that this is the ultimate watch chart?

>>18524767
Inaccurate by its own standards.
Going by prices, Rolex should be lower "luxury" or between "almost luxury" and "luxury".
And, as always, Casio transcends all charts.

>>18524769
Wtf are you talking about? Rolex starting price is like $7900.

>>18524767
Highly inaccurate.
Since when are the best watches ever made "mass market shitters".

>>18524774
San Martin watches are cool, but i'd not call them "best watches ever made".

>>18524767
Where do we draw the line where Chinese components are used? 15k?

100% (Hundred Percent, down to the IN-HOUSE hairspring) made in SWITZERLAND.

100% (Hundred percent, down to the IN-HOUSE GROWN jewels and quartz crystal) made in JAPAN.

>>18524807
No line to be drawn (swiss made only refers to movements ; no matter the price range your metal bracelet will be made in China, no exception)

fixed a few things, but it's pretty much this.

>>18524807
Only haute horology can be trusted on that.
But OBJECTIVELY and TECHNICALLY, does it really makes a difference if a 5mm stainless steel wheel is made in Valjoux or in Shenzhen?

most /fa/ /out/ watches?

>>18524741
Thanks Fren, it's definitely my favorite watch of all of them. I always knew it was my favorite design, and no matter what watch I own, I always come back to this Speedy in the end.

I'm trying to find pics of it on wrist, to maintain the theme. I always liked this one.

Incidentally, I have been wavering quite close to getting a modern 3861...it is calling out to me. Thinking Sapphire Sandwich...we'll see.

What watch are you wearing today, Fren?

>>18524859
Damn that's such a nice wat-
>Right hand
Bro

Just buy Tudor
https://youtu.be/azfVKSn_5AE?si=esN1KbzfQ8MzGttN

Chewdah, guvna, Chewdah.

>>18524848
Casio Forester.
The pinetree logo is effay beyond reason.

I think I'm going to do it. Just can't make up my mind yet on black or blue.

>>18524922
I like blue a lot as a color, it's my favorite, but this shade somehow doesn't move me. Black is mich more versatile and it's a strap monster.

Which one is better: Seiko or Citizen?

>>18524934
>Which one is better: Halloween 5 or Friday the 13th 7?

>>18524934
Seiko obviously.
It has different ranges and layers.

>>18524702 (OP)
What a disgusting shitter lol.

>>18524934
Citizen in terms of QC and their Eco Drive technology.
Seiko in terms of dial designs.

Posting my watch (which is the best watch ever made) into the watch thread started by our most influential poster.
We missed you OmegaChad, you've been alright?

Zaratzu.

>>18524859
here's my 3861 ss
It's my first luxury watch so I can't really compare it to anything but I love it. Runs 2s/d fast

>>18524702 (OP)
Gonna run errands + gym. Perfect day for a G-Shock

>>18524898
If I only wear one, it's always on the right. I tried wearing a watch on the left for a few years, but it always felt wrong. Such is life.

>>18524922
Have you seen either in person? I find that colours never match what I see in pics. I was able to have a good look at the new FOIS in person a few months ago, and realized that the blue colour doesn't look as blue (more like dark blue/black/grey) and the faux patina lume plots look like diarrhea. As you can probably guess, I didn't get it. There are other problems with that watch too (most notably that the hands are illegible), but at least Omega tried.

>>18524972
Good day Citizenchad! Are you doing well? Things have been extraordinarily busy on my end, and will likely remain so, therefore I'm rarely here at all. I've missed you all too, and I'm glad to see that you're still around and that your Citizen is still keeping perfect time.

>>18524977
Looks awesome on you, Fren. Thank you for letting me know how it's running - I don't own any co-axials, and I've only heard great things about their performance (especially the Master Chronometers), so it helps to know that yours is running wonderfully. I have the old 1861 as well, and both the 321 and 1861 have tolerances of 12 and 14 seconds a day, so a Speedy Pro that is out of the factory within chronometer specs is a new concept for me (although Omega did a chronometer spec back in the day...I think it was a Gold special edition or something from the 90s, can't remember). My watchmaker has kept the 321 within 1 second a day, but I had to get the 1861 serviced by Omega a few months ago and I've just left it as is (around +4 per day) because I can always reset it when necessary. Did you get the on-the-fly adjustable bracelet? Do you like it? Are you ever worried about servicing in the future, since you'd have to take it to a watchmaker who is trained in co-axial lubrication? Finally, what made you choose the sapphire sandwich over the hesalite? Great to see it!

>>18525008
>Did you get the on-the-fly adjustable bracelet?
nope, just two micro adjustment holes
it fits perfectly anyway
>Do you like it?
Watch? I love it. I have it for 3 months and I feel like it's part of me now. Bracelet? I didn't like bracelets before this watch (maybe because all I've experienced was casio) but this one feels great. Plus the polished inner links make the watch feel a bit more like jewelry. I still wear it on nato or sailcloth more often tho, at least during the summer cuz my hands swell easily.

>Are you ever worried about servicing in the future, since you'd have to take it to a watchmaker who is trained in co-axial lubrication?
I mean I planned just to go to Omega when the time comes, but now when you said that I guess I need to do some research? My brother is deep into the watches so he'll probably know a guy.

>Finally, what made you choose the sapphire sandwich over the hesalite?

It's meant to be "one and done" watch for me so I picked something that's more practical. The display case back is cool af too.

>>18524975
G R E E N

R E D

>>18525003
>Have you seen either in person?
They're JDM, so it'd be rather expensive to go see them in person... The blue here on the photos isn't exactly my favorite anyway so I'm leaning on black, i know from personal experience that Seiko dials are notoriously hard to photograph and shift their colors a lot...

B L U E

day 9 of waiting for the rolex AD to call me back

G R E Y

>>18525098
W H I T E

B L A C K

Should I buy this as a dress watch

don't get me wrong, i love my speedmaster but seeing all the pics of it in here is making me feel like it's become a bit of a meme, sigh

>>18525114
You’re not wrong, it IS a meme. It’s still a very decent watch, but because it’s babby’s first “real” watch and because so many sticky virgins make the Speedmaster their whole personality, it carries a bad reputation.

Fortunately, no one in the real world knows about any of this and, even online, the sticky people are really active posters so you won’t have to take too much shit.

>>18525114
>it's become a bit of a meme
Become?

>>18525114
oh I'm so sorry you bought one of the most popular, if not the most popular luxury sports watch and you just found out. your disappointed is understandable, normies like myself should be forbidden from buying YOUR watch
>>18525118
isn't making your personality around any watch gay?

now seriously: what the fuck is your problem?

>>18525112
See if you can haggle them down

R8 my collection.

>>18525159
Starting from top, going left to right:
Shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit

I rate it LickingAStreetInMumbai/10

>>18525159
2.5/10
You get points for the Marathon and the Tissot, those are cool.
The rest is horrible, especially the fake Rolex. No one who could afford a GOLD Rolex would wear any of the shitters you wear otherwise, so you're just signaling yourself as a cope fag and a fake person.
The Addiessive looks horrible, the "android" is like a 45mm from the look of it, it's migrant/flea market territory.

tldr; i'd keep the Marathon and the Tissot, get rid of the rest, and wait untill i can afford a proper third watch for a good 3 watches collection

>>18525159
I am speechless.. For the lack of better worlds, your collection, my friend, is pure class.

I like collecting watches, but, as many before me, I reached the conclusion that I don't want to regularly wear more than three watches. In fact, I end up wearing pic related for the vast majority of the year. So much so that other watches feel "off" to me. When I hear or read or think "watch", I associate it with the feeling of the white birch. It's probably a sign of me having found what I'm looking for in life and have no need to look no further.
I still enjoy reading and talking about watches, about innovations or clever designs, but I stopped thinking of acquiring another one.
Friends of mine have done kinda the same. One is wearing his Tank and Santos back to back while he owns at least 30 watches in his collection, another one is wearing exclusively his orient, and I haven't see another friend of mine wear anything but his panerai carbon for at least 6 months now.
Is that what "exiting the game" feels like?
I only wear my moser on special occasions and my tudor when I'm doing rough things like mountain hikes or sports.

>>18525370
>Is that what "exiting the game" feels like?
No, it’s what realizing you spent money foolishly feels like, you dumb fuck.

>>18525370
In a way, watches are like wives.
Sometimes, you know you've found the one, but yet you still look around and want to try others.
The way people act about watches is the same they do in a relationship, some people have a personality to look for something new, something better and can't enjoy what they have.

>>18525099
bussin'

>>18525035
Thank you, SpeedyChad - I appreciate your real-world thoughts on this. I'm glad the watch fits well, and that the bracelet does feel good. I've tried on the watch numerous times, and the bracelet is superior to the older one by a fair margin. Regarding the servicing - don't worry about it; I only mention it because my watchmaker is older and wasn't trained by Omega in the co-axials, so it has always been something in the back of my mind. I've had great experiences with my Omega AD with regards to servicing, but it seems that it's regionally dependent. Some people have complaints, especially in the US, so it's a give and take. There are independent watchmakers who are trained with Omega co-axials, of course, so it's just a matter of research and finding someone you trust.

I was thinking Sapphire Sandwich too, but only because I don't have one. Also, I like the applied Omega logo, the polished areas of the bracelet, and seeing the movement. Yours looks great, wear it in good health!

>>18525096
What watch are you waiting for? I think my Rolex AD was a little irked that I bought my SeaDweller used on the grey market...but it's not like they'd sell me anything I wanted anyway. Their servicing is impeccable though...

>>18525114
I think it's because I'm heavy into them (I have 5) that you're seeing lots of pics of them right now. Here, have a great Reverso instead. Did you post a pic of your Speedy?

>>18525118
Bad reputation? That's the first I've heard of it. True, it's usually one of the first 'real' watches that a non watchgeek will buy, but it's because it has a combination of elements that are appealing at an affordable price. You can get an 1861 for around 3.5 or 4kUSD, and it's got the moon connection (tangentially, but still there), a design that is iconic and legible, and recognizable in the watch community. What other watch has those things (history, price, and respect)? Submariners are more expensive, and although the Bulova was worn on the moon, the modern Bulova has the design shell but a quartz movement. Granted, it's much more affordable, but will not have the respect in the community due to the lack of a mechanical movement.

As for people making a watch 'their whole personality', I'd agree to that for sure. You see the same thing with the Paneristi, or Rolex owners who are 'building their relationship' with their AD. Human nature.

>>18525370
Yes, it does CredorChad. If I reduced my collection to what I wear the most, it's the 1966, the Holy Grail, and 'everything else'. If I were near water more often, I'd wear the Seamasters or the Rolex more, but quite honestly I could be quite happy with just the two Speedies. The thing that makes me happy however is having the variety to choose from. If I feel like something dressy, I can do Reverso, and if I feel like something precise, I can go Citizen. In other words, I have variety to assuage my mood. I do seem to require this, but I haven't bought a watch in a while because I seem to have hit the point where I have a watch for every mood requirement. I've looked at Zenith, more Omegas, but they all feel like variations on a theme to me now, and I have the ones that I truly want anyway. So, maybe you're at the point where your choice hits the mark for you at this point in life where you live now. Enjoy this moment, because watches are taken care of in your life.

>>18525416
Based Omega chad

>>18525416
Budget 7K
Which Zenith would you recommend? Something that's easy to maintain btw, forever. I guess Zenith are the Kings of keeping components, but humour me anyway.

>>18524844
yes because at that point i migjt as well just chill in the "shitter" category and put my cash into the S&P

unironically make 140k remote and have no expenses cause i just live in my apartment in europe or with my burger gf or in cheap countries and cant justify blowing 5k on a fucking watch. seems straight retarded to me even if i really like watches

why not just chill in repland and homageland if chinks are touching all watches anyway lmfao

>>18525480
Before or after taxes? 140k in Germany are like 60K after taxes which is still impressive but yeah.

Kofe time.

We need to ban Russians.

>>18525591
We need more watch posting

>>18525490
He's probably talking about 140K crypto and hiding it from German authorities.

>>18525591
this

>>18525405
I like the idea of the Reverso. I would go in public with the watch clearly visible, but turned around. Other people should not be able to read the time from MY watch. If anyone would ask me the time I would just tell them to stop being a bum and get a watch!
What a brilliant timepiece this is.

thoughts on this Omega Swatch collab?

>>18525662
Plastic quartz shitter, badly made, with hysterically terrible strap. Looks cool though.

>>18525663
>Plastic
umm it's ceramic actually

>>18525669
Sure it is buddy.

Taking the Serica camping. Olive NATO. Fugg it

>>18525710
>minutes
>HEURES

>>18525710
Chad af

>>18525712
The French have many names for prostitutes

Kofe time
The crystal is fucked up, but then again I've been using it as a daily for 4 years now. It does make me wonder how i can avoid this on my other Weekdater, any ideas? Could i order a custom sapphire crystal with the same dimensions as the acrylic one? Like, would someone be able to make one if i provide an acrylic one? Could you even fit a sapphire crystal in there?

>>18525710
Geez that looks messy with those round plots reaching towards the center.

>>18525730
Based

>>18525730
My man I think your best bet is just buying acrylic crystals and polishing + replacing them.

>>18525730
Acurirycu gorassu

Where is 24h clocks?

>>18525782
>gorassu
???
>>18525780
I can't polish this one, a few gashes are like a millimeter deep. I suspect the dimensions are pretty standard, or thereabout, since the last time i had the watch serviced they replaced the crystal for free without me even asking for it. It's not the same as it was though, it's a bit taller.

>>18525864
>>gorassu
Ah yes, i get it now.

>>18525405
was sorta thinking about swapping this guy for the one with the white dial

re rolex - waiting for either a stainless sub or gmt

>>18526024
Based.

>>18526027
Double based.

This is my favourite watch of all time.
It's a cheap seiko homage shitter. If I knew how to service the Omega movements i'd get the Cosmic 2000 this was based on.

>>18526052
Omega for reference

>>18525730
I substituted acryllics for sapphire many times over. If the crystal width and thickness is correct, it's an easy swap. Flat to domed and vice versa is also possible. Often times people get hung up on OEM parts but frankly fuck em, if you're not intending on selling get the best spec crystal possible and get it swapped.

>>18525733
I agree. The 6190 is peak for aesthetics

>>18526102
I actually agree. I don't know why. Wanted to say something negative but it's one of those watches that instantly clicked.

>>18526053
How much is that and why are you scared of the movement? It actually looks amazing too.
>>18526036
>>18526027
>>18526025
>>18526024
>>18525923
It's been a while since I've seen masterpieces like that being posted back to back. Thanks for sharing

How do I cope with the fact that I'm retarded and will never afford a Rolex or an Omega?

>>18526102
>>18526174
i'll say something negative on your behalf, the gap on the band between the face is unacceptably ugly in poor taste. for a watch at that price it should be flush.

>$1000 is entry level price nowadays

this hobby has gone completely insane

>>18526204
Entry level is way bellow 1000 what are you talking about

>>18526201
That's how bonklip bracelets are supposed to be, dumbass.

>>18525662
It's fucking horrible. Just get a real speedmaster or at least a rep
>>18525923
This doesn't look too shitty. It's like a swiss made seiko or casio with those big numbers

>>18526212
just because its supposed to look retarded doesnt make a difference, it looks retarded. it's not a viceroy or a 30s CW dixy and son, looks like trash.

>>18524767
Rolex IS mass market

>>18526305
Bro only 1.2 million get sold every year. It's extremely niche and exclusive

HAQ bros, where you at?

the fact apple watch is even on this chart invalidates it, let alone the fact it is not at the very bottom. many things are absent, seiko casio timex don't deserve to be slandered. the arent shitters, just for the average layman. this is a ragebait chart.

>>18526174
To put it blunty, any vintage Seiko movement is not only easy to service but also replacable since they are all compatible with the NH movements.

Omega movements are in comparison far more fickle and annoying to get replacement parts for - every single Cosmic i've seen was trashed like a motherfucker whereas these cheap seiko 7009 can be found in mint condition, fairly easily. They are also kind of overpriced for what they are at this point - mostly due to the Omega namesake.

>>18526336
>this is a ragebait chart.
Of course it is, bitteranon doesn't know how to speak a positive language, only negative.

>>18526065
>Often times people get hung up on OEM parts but frankly fuck em, if you're not intending on selling get the best spec crystal possible and get it swapped.
I don't care, i intend to daily the watch and practicality is what matters to me.

>>18526305
The "luxuriousness" of Rolex is generally overrated (oh wow you made an incomplete calendar and it only took you 30 years, congratulations you are now on par with where everyone else was in the 90s), that's one thing to keep in mind but as far as UN is concerned they have a few things over Rolex :
>UN is in another universe when it comes to complications
>UN has better craftsmanship, as in they have craftsmanship in the first place whereas Rolex is pretty much entirely made by machines and operators
>UN has a history of innovation in recent years which is worth mentionning. See how everyone is moving to silicon hairsprings? They did it first.
>lesser known brand so you can have something that's not going to be on the wrist of every 50-something having a midlife crisis
It comes with some drawbacks though :
>lesser known brand so nobody will know or care what your watch is aside from turbonerds who will likely just know about the Freak
>"unique styling" aka most of their watches look horrendous and are huge
>all-proprietary for an independant brand, meaning service will take forever and cost a ton
>prices are not very competitive. Their least expensive watches (time and date titanium Diver with a home-built ETA with modifications thus likely to be some end of stock and soon to be discontinued ; and Torpilleur in steel, date and power reserve) are 8k and 10k at retail. I don't need to tell you that you have "better options" if you care about specs
>no value retention whatsoever if that's something you care about
Are they "more luxurious" than Rolex? I would say yes, easily.
Are they CONSIDERED more luxurious than Rolex by most people? No, because most people have a seriously inflated idea of how luxurious Rolex is, and no idea of what makes Ulysse Nardin what they are. And a lot of their models won't have a "luxurious look" at first glance. ESPECIALLY their divers which are mostly titanium

>>18526379
didn't read

>>18526379
What does the part in the bottom right do?

>>18526211
for swiss shitters and microbrands larping in the same tier it's $1000

see oris, longines and etc

>>18526204
Entry is under $500, see >>18524844
under $50 even.

This is my aesthetic.
Recommend me a watch under $1500, my Casio works fine when I'm working but it would be nice to have a better option lying around.

>>18526475
Casio f91w

>>18526475
Hamilton khaki

>>18526475
>Doug DeMuro core
I'd try to raise your profile, giving you a car enthusiast backstory.

There's too much talk and opinions on watches here.
just give me the tldr and tell me, what is the best watch?

>>18526548
Rolex Explorer

>>18526548
Casio f91w

>>18526548
Royal Oak
Seiko 5
F91W
Orient Bambino
Rolex Submariner
Omega Speedmaster
Grand Seiko Snowflake
Patek Philippe Cataltraba 2497
Seiko Quartz-Astron
Credor Eichi II
Zenith El Primero
Cartier Tank
Panerai Luminor / Radiomir
BP fifty fathoms
IWC Portugieser
Lange 1
Breguet Clasique
Any of those is the correct answer.

>>18526475
tissot seastar 1000

>>18526562
Half those watches are shit, you failed to answer to a simple question.

>>18526566
He's not half wrong, he's half right. That's better than most watches are accurate.

>>18525084
I'm visiting Japan in October, should I get one of these? Any other models to check out? It would be cool to get a JDM only model

I need a JDM GADA minigrail and I need it now.

>>18526568
>visiting Japan
What for?

>>18526568
>should I get one of these
Yes.
>Any other models to check out?
I don't think so, it's top of the line, unless you want to go cheaper in stainless steel, picrel.

>>18526588
>minigrail
>he doesn't have a micrograil and a nanograil yet
ngmi

>>18526568
I mean, there are probably a hundred different JDM models out there, who knows what you're going to find.

>>18526551
>>18526557
Which one is better?

>>18526605
The f91w is more accurate

>>18526548
Weekdater

>>18524702 (OP)
Got my first real watch after a decade of Casios. Thought on Certina?

>>18526626
Solid everyday watches for solid men, something like that. It's nothing special, well i do like the color to be frank, and it'll serve you well.

>>18526626
It's not a real watch. Yours not even mechanical.

>>18526623
I have seen this watch here a couple of times. I think it is time for you to substantiate your claims. What exactly makes this the best watch?

>>18526633
I like it the most out of all the watches, therefore it is the best.

>>18526629
>>18526633
Go back to your thread, bittercel.

>>18526551
>Rolex Explorer
i think it's really pretty. initially i didn't love it because the fluted bezel of the datejust, which i adore, turned me off to rolex's smooth bezel. all that said, if i were going to go rolex i'd want to get one of their more iconic pieces (although to be fair those are much harder to get from an AD)

New G-Slop has arrived and it is excellent

Another quality watch from the only watch makers who matter

>>18526626
Great colour
Band looks solid which is important
And if it's quartz then it's a real watch and not a LARP piece

>>18526751
Has it been 30 minutes already?

>>18526751
Invicta colab?

>>18526775
It's huffing gasoline collab.

I have a question.
Could i get a list of all the different elements used in a mechanical watch, say a bog standard Seiko 5?

>>18526800
Or a Rolex Explorer. Or some other normal automatic watch.

>>18526766
I've not set it to my local time
>>18526775
Haha lmao
It may look similar to on but it in fact was not made from aluminium foil

>>18526551
Yup.

>>18526562
>Cataltraba
try again

>>18526800
There are plenty of so called introductions that only make sense once you understand everything already so they're a waste of time even though they're attractively short, your best bet is to read this till the end and yes it's long but it's extremely well made and worth it and you'll get a real understanding of how everything works https://ciechanow.ski/mechanical-watch/
On the more practical side this series is good https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvMdYdz6a-tFD_GIFjiV4zj48nSfFOOky but it's more about disassembly and service than teaching you how everything functions
Oh and you're in the wrong thread this one is /soc/ with luxury goods for for midlife crisis spergs

>>18526862
I just need a list of elements... Thanks btw.

>>18526568
Ask zach

>>18526800
>>18526804
What do you mean elements?

>>18527040
eremenuto

>>18526557
THIS.
picrel is the greatest and best watch
all else is cope

>>18527040
Copper, iron, nickel, etc..

Kofe time.

Kofe Time Kombo

>>18526551
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzqh2kroYIw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgorm0DgkBA
Poolex

posting literally and objectively the best watch in its class.

>>18527112
>>18527119
>>18527163
Holy trinity

>>18527163
I have a fan, nice.

>>18526593
vacation
>>18526599
alright, thanks.
>>18526602
Yeah true. Planning to visit the Seiko museum, and perhaps various different watch shops. Who knows what I'll find. Gotta avoid those watches marketed at weebs somehow. Picrel

>>18527195
Yeah, go for more obscure stuff. No idea how or where though...

>>18527195
did you talk to zach? Join the server, he can show you around.

>>18527171
Slick

>>18527215
That's a very fine wach sir.

I've been looking for an integrated bracelet sports watch for about a year, and I think the 556i in black (or maybe pearl) is the closest to what I'm after.

I want something with minimal or no numbers on its face, up to $1500.

Is there anything else I should look at before I get this? I kind of like the Citizen Series 8 but it's a bit ostentatious for me

>>18527259
Damasko is an alternative to Sinn, with color options as well.

Here is my collection. Not sure if I should go for the navitimer mint green 41mm or the omega aqua terra world timer next

>>18527351
Do you wear all of them? How about cleaning about half of it first, then buying a proper, good, even a great watch with that money?

>>18527351
Nice try faggot.

>>18527351
Keep the Tudor, Omega, PRX, Nivada, Casio and that moon phase Longines, and sell the rest, and buy a Rolex.

>>18527364
>moon phase Longines
*Timex

>>18527351
Sell everything and buind a sundial in your backyard.

If you are a man in your 20s to 100s just buy a Casio. Get into debt if you have to.

>>18527387
Why are they 10 minutes apart?

>>18527391
Japanese accuracy (-10/+30 seconds/day)

>>18527391
Because you touch yourself at night

>>18527404
Kys.

>>18527420
Kiss you too :*

>>18527351
The one circled in green are ok (tho i'd only keep the Speedy and the Tudor personally).
The rest, sell, give or trash.
Then you can buy another watch.

Was looking for a watch with a telemeter scale and I found out you can order several different bezels for the speedmaster directly from Omega. I need to send mine for service soon but first I'll need to buy a second (non-Seiko) watch.

>>18527475
Cool, keep us updated

>>18527478
Kek

>>18527468
You have horrible taste if you’re discarding those.

>>18527351
Out of these I would probably just wear the trafford all the time.

>>18524844
do watchfags genuinely care about this horology shit or just the price tag

>>18527534

>I'm a Trafford kind of guy

just saw tim mosseau of the 1916 watch company on a brazzers film wtf?

>>18527552
Yeah, it just works with the pendleton/ll bean shit I wear all the time.

>>18527535
Not everybody wants or can afford this level of horology.
FP Journe are known to break easily, they are the equivalent of owning a Bugatti that you have to maintain all the time.
They are not everyday watches, they are for horology collectors.

>>18527558
still not convinced you guys care about horology, whatever that means. what's the difference between a guy with a rolex watch and a girl with a prada bag?

>>18527562
How is this supposed to be a trafford guy? This would be much more accurate. It's an austin beerhipster brand.

>>18527563
I said not everybody does.
Some people (maybe most) just want a useful daily watch, a nice item or a fashion accessory.

>>18527567
the word you're looking for is "cumpig"

>>18527570
tell me how a clock works without googling

>>18527572
there's a spring, a wheel, then the whim wham goes into the wing wong, it turns, it turns, it turns, and wallah.

>>18527571
That's not even accurate either. If you're going to mock something at least get it right. The trafford guy stereotype would be somebody who microbrews beer, goes to swinger parties and lets other guys fuck his wife, and collects retro videogames. He also swears cbd cured his ibs and drives a golf (not gti). He wears jim green africa boots and cheap selvege denim and had a suspenders phase. He has an extensive flatcap collection.

>>18527576
>goes to swinger parties and lets other guys fuck his wife
FYI, most cucks have a cum eating fetish. Google "cuckhold cleanup".

>>18527580
That's not his style. He doesn't want to even go to the swingers parties, his wife just makes him be in an "open relationship" and he goes along with it. It's actually much sadder than if he were into it.

Just got hired with a signing bonus.
I am looking for a watch that's $1000-$3000 range. Looking for a watch with some history, but not a desk diver or something you see every day.
41mm or smaller
I already have a seiko skx007 and a vintage tudor prince date.

>>18527603
Get a laco with an eta

>>18527603
Ultrachron.
Or zulu time.

>>18527603
The Citizen.

>>18527603
Cartier tank

>>18527603
Get a 62GS, because why not?

>>18527664
I'm gay btw

>>18527723
I think the weekdater Chad is right, it looks better than this and it has the day which gives it further nuance

>>18527728
Talk about timing kek

Watches without lume are unwearable.

>>18527699
Based

>>18527748
Watches with lume are unwatchable. Subtle difference.

>>18525450
You can get quite a serious variety, vintage and modern, for 7k USD. At that point, your best bet is literally to do a Chrono24 search with your budget and just go through what's there. Any El Primero base will be fine, but you could go as crazy as one of those 1/100th second chronos (they're awesome), or as simple as a 3-hander dress watch. I have always loved their 'Pilot' watches (the older design with cathedral hands), but I have always wanted another Zenith pocket watch too. Hell, you could get one of their Deck chronometers in that price range. It all depends on your design priorities, as the general watch should be fine. If I had to recommend, I'd do one of the Shadows...I like those.

>>18525658
It can look like a really nice bracelet if the engraving on the back is nicely done. I love my Reverso and wear it that way often.

>>18525662
One of the best ideas in the last few years, sold well, and I've seen them on lots of wrists where I live, so proof of concept.

>>18526025
I have looked at the white dial in person in detail; sadly, I can't read the time on them (and other white dials in general). Good luck for the wait for the Rolex - do you have a purchase history? If not, you might be waiting a long time....

would you ever just buy one watch and be done with fussing about watches?

>>18527942
Based, but aren't those 1/100th very hard to maintain and expensive to repair?

>>18527955
Yes, the movement is complicated, however I am well acquainted with an owner who has had one from purchase at the AD, and it's been flawless for years. He uses it at the track daily, so he probably uses the chronograph function as much as I use mine. He loves it, and though the design line isn't to my liking (the dial is unbalanced), I really do love the engineering of it, and it's nice to see it zip around. If you bought one grey market, just get it serviced from Zenith and then wear-and-enjoy. There is no maintenance other than the normal 'service it every 7-10 years'. What else do you need to do?

Admittedly, I am not fearful of the 'hard to maintain and expensive to repair' concern. There's not much I can do to a watch to break it. Watches are luxury items; if you want something that won't break, a digital Casio will be just fine. The more complicated a watch is, the more that can go wrong if it wasn't properly serviced by the last technician, and furthermore, the more complicated a watch is, the higher the possibility that something is broken or damaged DURING disassembly/reassembly and servicing. Therefore, the way I see it is that a complicated watch comes with complicated ownership; it's part of the package. That's why you take your watch to the manufacturer or a watchmaker you trust.

Online you can find vids from Lange owners (for instance) who have had trouble with the service that Lange provides...that's awful to hear, but reminds us that these are expensive wind-up toys and not much else. Sure, they are aesthetically remarkable, but they're still wind-up toys that need care and attention when they are taken apart.

I wouldn't take my Grail to just any watchmaker - they'd have to have a known history of servicing that movement. If my Citizen needed servicing, I'd send it to Japan. Anyone could service the ETA or Valjoux based movements, but there is only one man I trust with my vintage 321. All watches require care.

>>18527955
To put it another way - how do you intend to break it?

>>18527952
Yes, but after wearing it for 10 years I want a watch with a date complication that I can wear with a suit. So then I'll have 2 watches, not including many casios that have gone into the trash from broken rubber straps over the years.

>>18527748
It's true. If you have an active lifestyle or have children, an unlumed watch is basically useless. Luckily I learned this lesson from a watch I built with AliExpress parts.

Reminder, you only need 3 good watches and 1 very good one.
Have a nice day.

>>18528052
What convinced you to go with Casio instead of SKMEI?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxcT3w3ACFI

Is this the way to go? Can it even get better than this? I feel quite compelled by this.

>>18528052
Do a comparison shot of the GS and Casio showing their case polishing.

>>18527962
thick, looks like shit on bitch wrists

>>18528052
I see you are still working your way up to your first good watch then.
Good on you.
Then it's going to be two more, and a very good one to top it off.

>>18527563
>what's the difference between a guy with a rolex watch and a girl with a prada bag?
The girl knows her Prada bag is mostly a signature and a name.
The guy thinks he has one of the best watches he could possibly get.

>>18528052
pic not related?

>>18527962
>That's why you take your watch to the manufacturer or a watchmaker you trust.
Rodent?

>>18527603

>>18527603

https://www.longines.com/en-au/p/watch-longines-spirit-l3-810-1-53-6

>>18527612

+1 get a Longines for that money.

>>18525159

Spend $800 or so and get a proper rep Rolex at least c'monnnnn

>>18528061
It was 1600¥ 50% off

>>18528069
Okay.

I'm seriously considering having a custom sapphire crystal made for this, with heaps of AR.

>>18528236
Or should i just buy 5 original replacement crystals and be done with it for the rest of my life?

Serica restock!

6190 MSL. Would be my daily wearer

>>18528104
what defines a "best" watch that can't also define a handbag? if we're talking about the best in terms of quality of manufacturing or materials, i'm sure prada handbags are reasonably well made as well (imagine they're still made by actual artisans with years of training and nice working conditions). if we're talking about design, then handbags are there too

I lost my temper yesterday while failing to close my armani watch after replacing the battery. I took a hammer and smashed the thing to pieces.

Not sure what to do now:
>no watch life, there are clocks everywhere anyway. But I keep deluding myself I will one day break free from the control grid of phones and computers, so somehow still want a watch
>some type of radio controlled analog watch
>some type of radio controlled digital watch

>>18528323
Get three-four Casios that fit your outfits. Decide later if this consumeristic hobby is for you depending how you feel about them.

>>18528323
googled armani watches and holy shit those are ugly

>>18528329
I considered GW-5000 but I am not sure if it looks like something for a child back in the 80's. The specs look good but the aesthetic is questionable. Particularly all the pointless words all over the watch are creating a very tacky vibe.

So I explored citizen and casio analog radio watches but found nothing that suits wristlets

Must be solar to avoid another hammer meltdown

>>18528329
Outfits? No

real men wear rolex

Would you look at that, Seiko can actually make a good looking chronograph with a proper movement (without the stupid 24 hour subdial).

>>18528414
Michael Jackson auuu

>>18528413
>with a proper movement
So it is automatic?

>>18528323
>no watch life, there are clocks everywhere anyway.
You have an opportunity to break free . Do so. You lose nothing in the bargain.

>>18528429
I considered this. But I might just use my phone. Smashing that watch with a hammer felt good.

>>18528323
>changing a watch battery
go to your local asian import grocery store, browse their import beer and snacks, flirt with the pignosed 4/10 azn cashier, and then pay $10 to the chinese grandma at the jewelry counter to change the battery for you

>>18528492
I regret nothing

>>18528504
My friend, it is time to go full ECO-DRIVE and ascend beyond the 3 year battery replacement plebs.

>>18528322
>i'm sure prada handbags are reasonably well made as well (imagine they're still made by actual artisans with years of training and nice working conditions)
LOL

https://www.vice.com/en/article/prada-chanel-and-more-big-name-fashion-brands-called-out-for-secret-supply-chains/
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2016/dec/08/prada-found-wanting-assessment-forced-labour-safeguards-ralph-lauren-hugo-boss

>>18528316
i hate bonklip bracelets with a passion.

>>18528180
LOL what the fck $5.5k for a Longines lmfaoooooooo

Why the fuck would anyone pay more than $1.5k for a low tier brand like that?

>>18528528
well imagine some other brand there then. hermes for example

>>18528525
Recommend me one that also has radio controlled accuracy

>>18528535
You don't want radio control, do not trust the authorities to keep sending (you) the time for free. Better carry your own time standard with you. That mean's getting a HAQ.

>>18528571
I used to think that way but really I dont feel like dropping 10k on a watch

>>18528533
Yes because they're different lmfao.

>>18528532
https://www.longines.com/en-au/p/watch-conquest-heritage-l1-650-4-62-2

This one is really nice though, would buy if it was $150 like a Seiko. But even Seiko added a zero so Seikos like that are $1500 now.

>>18528532
>LOL what the fck $5.5k for a Longines lmfaoooooooo
It's 5K OZZZZIIIIES, so it's worth like $1500.
For a longines LARPing as an OG aviator watch, nothing less.

>>18528473
where do you dive ?

>>18528596
dUBAI

>>18528596
Don't doxx me bro

>>18527534
>>18527556
They're reopening sales on their older Crossroads models. Looking to snag one myself.

>>18527400
Nah, I'd win.

>>18527612
Summoning is complete.

>>18528606
I just check time.is after smashing my armani with a hammer. Fuck it

>>18528617
>smashing my armani with a hammer
How could you?

>>18527942
>I have looked at the white dial in person in detail; sadly, I can't read the time on them (and other white dials in general). Good luck for the wait for the Rolex - do you have a purchase history? If not, you might be waiting a long time....

so it turns out that the AD I went to (a rolex boutique) is owned by a pretty big watch retailer, and I had previously purchased my speedmaster from them when they'd had a different location (since closed), so i was already in their CRM from this purchase like 15 years earlier. my sales associate said i should expect to hear back "within a year, or significantly earlier". so fingers crossed

>>18528621
It disrespected me and therefore I had no choice. If you let things control you, before you know it your wife will be controlling you.

>>18528625
Is your wife's name "hammer" by any chance.

>>18528633
I am the hammer and she is the nail

>>18528645
Drop us the marriage update bro

>>18528651
>marriage update

I'm still enduring it, trying to find God, fortune and all that.

>>18528622
Stainless Steel Sub or GMT, and all you have in the purchase history is a Speedy from 15 years ago? Good luck with the wait, Fren. In the past few years, the calculation appears to be 2 Datejusts (non-precious metal, mens and ladies, or some combination of the OP and Tudor, as long as it comes to the same value) to get a stainless Sub, and Sub plus a precious metal to get a GMTII. Normal GMT1 should be available at the same price point as the stainless Sub though. You may have to consider buying something else to help you to be higher on the list (maybe jewellery?), or go grey market and just buy it direct.

>>18528667
idk, my sales associate wasn't pushing me to anything other than sub or gmt. my AD literally only has Rolex--no Tudor, no jewelry. no hint of quid pro quo. and in another AD I went to they were pretty clear that a gmt or sub could be a multi year wait. so i am hopeful that the preexisting relationship is going to help somehow

>>18524844
Omega watches are great but given that this is supposed to be an objective tier list: putting them in the same tier as Rolex is just cope.

>>18528697
In that case, you can't lose getting an OP and/or Datejust to bump you up. If you're in a big city, it'll help. If you're in a smaller market, you might have a chance with less, but it's rare now that you could get allocated a stainless steel Sub with just 6k spent over a decade ago. If it happens, definitely let us know, and you should stop by the Rolex forums to let them know too because it would buck the trend and be a shining light to those also waiting.

>>18528355
Nah man it looks good
You could always mod it

>>18528323
Armani bros....

>>18528719
Damn that's some nice lume

>>18528719
i mean, the truth is that the DJs i would be interested in are hard to secure too (blue / green fluted jubilee). and i'm not going to buy something i'm not interested just for a chance at something i am.

it was interesting, when I was there the SA was clearly grilling me on my knowledge of watches. i had my speedy on and i felt like he was going deep trying to suss out how much i really cared about watches

>>18528719
>>18528766
Can someone explain to me what is going on?
Are the rumors that Rolex pretends to be niche and exclusive true? And why are people willing to put up with that shit?

>>18528625
Truth bombs.

>>18528606
How's the bracelet on this? Besides the technology, what else do you get for that money?

>>18528774
after the covid buxx started flowing, a lot of money went to them. rolex didnt increase supply so all this money flowed into the secondary (grey) market. so if you want to buy from an AD you have to either wait or try to get what you want by buying additional stuff you're not so interested in (jewelry, less desirable watches, etc)

for certain pieces, the secondary market value can be >2x retail msrp

NEW THREAD WHEN

>>18528781
I see people line-up daily outside of a rolex ad. Even at their very big yearly output, there are so many people who want to buy one? Good on them I guess. Can't see how the QR won't suffer like that though.

>>18528748
It's good, but not as good as the old Superluminova that both Rolex and Omega used. I've tested it against my 2254.50, and that outlasts it by a country mile. Actually, it's the only thing I hate about the watch....the lume sucks. The crazy thing is that it's the same with all modern Rolii, only the SeaDweller/Submariner/GMTII use the same dial set for the hour plots, and they all look weak. The other thing I noticed is that in the deep of the night, the hour hand is not large enough to be legible easily, and due to the design, it can be misinterpreted by hour (i.e. a point to 2 might look like a point to 3). I was used to Omega lume for years, so to see this was very disappointing. Even my Reverso has better lume.

>>18528766
To be honest, Fren, what I'm saying is that the AD doesn't care what you want or what watch you're interested in to jump the queue. All that matters is how much money you've spent. If you were on the Rolex forums as long as I was, the calculation was, at its worst, pretty remarkable. In 2021, if I wanted to get a stainless steel Daytona from my AD, I would have had to spend at least 60,000USD to be potentially allotted one. It would be easy to jump the queue by buying a Day-Date, OP, and Datejust, but I don't want any of them. So, if I wanted a Daytona, it would make more sense to just pay the grey market price for one. You can back-track and calculate other people on the forums who bought their watches from their AD and what they had to spend, whether it was jewellery, random awful Tudors, etc., but it still comes to roughly the same amount of money.

The ADs are interested to find out if you're a flipper or a collector, but that only pushes you higher on the list if you spend money there. Money is all that matters. So, that's why I say 'good luck'.

>>18528774
>>18528781
>>18528784

The crazy thing about it is that there are people who have a philosophy to only buy retail and never buy above. If you run the numbers, it's absurd, and the justifications you read are borderline insane. 'Yeah, I bought that jewellery for my wife, but I was going to buy jewellery anyway'. 'Yeah, I bought that Tudor Black Bay, it's cool', 'Yeah I got that OP because it's classic'...it's all the same. You ask them if they wear these watches at all now that they have what they want, they either say 'no', or 'I sold that years ago'. It's all the same, and I can't blame them.

If I had a Tudor Black Bay and then got allotted a Submariner, I'd never wear the Tudor again. Why would you? Tudor Prince vs. Rolex Day-Date? Same thing. The cope that you have to read about it is awful - sure, they won't pay above retail, but they'll spend 4x the price of the watch on other watches just for the chance to be allotted one...if they get one, they STILL have to spend more to get it. They got a Daytona at retail, but the total spent was 75k. It's amazing and absurd.

>>18527351
What is middle top?

>>18528836
Which Omega is this and how much is a fake?

Seamaster 2599.80, and none. I love it, and when you light it up with a UV light, everything glows hard. The old Flightmasters were designed the same way - to light up in the cockpit from the UV lights.

>>18528782
I gotcha friend.

Baked a new bread:

>>18528843
>>18528843
>>18528843

GO GO GO!!!!

>>18528780
Good. I'm not exactly very picky when it comes to bracelets, but it's comfy. Light, thin, a lot of links, though. Kind of a pain in the ass to resize due to how small they are. It's very flexible. Wears a lot like a mesh bracelet.

>>18528844
we're not even at the bump limit dumbass

>>18528323
why did you do it, anon?
why did you kill him?

Which one would you mainly wear?

>>18526548

This is best one, desu. Second best is Rolex Dominos.

>>18530438
feast your eyes on 2nd best watch ever made

>>18526548
Seiko 5.

What timepiece should I get with a budget of 700 USD? Something with 40-42 mm case diameter and automatic

Shitter in Shangri-la time.>>18526548
>what is the best watch?
the one you have with you