Thread 18552498

/btg/ BOOT GENERAL - FALL EDITION

What do I need to care for my boots?
>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)
>Horsehair brush ($10-15)
>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)
>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bick4/renovateur
>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP
>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest them

How do I deal with x stain?
>mud: allow it to dry then brush off
>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible
>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper
>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush

>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?
No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.
>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're good
no. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.
>Are Thursdays any good?
no.

Manufacturer Red Flags
>Luxury
>Bespoke
>Sustainable
>Vegan
>Unknown leather source
>Made in Chyna/Mexico/Indonesia

Boot Red Flags
>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)
>C*rk/C*lastic
>Zippers
>Non gusseted tongues
>Excessive/unnecessary seams
>Combination/mixed material heels

Boot Brands NO
>Turdsdays
>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters
>any Whatsapp makers in the far east
>Blkbrd

PREV>>18539678

First for Whites

I want these. Thought they were absolutely hideous at first but they grew on me and now I really want a pair

>>18552504
do it. way more interesting than a PTB

Just got an email that my black horsehide Wesco 7500s are completed. Just in time for the rainy season

>order brown boots from china
>get red clown boots
lol, lmao even

Looking to get my second pair of boots. Any recommendations for what style of boot would look good with these fatigue pants? I've got a couple of pairs from orslow and they are pretty much all I wear now, but for some reason I don't think they look that good with these brown beckmans. Maybe the color? Budget is around $700-900.

>>18552585
something in darker chocolate brown or a lighter tan. this medium brown is meh

also naked and famous?

>>18552580
oxblood is a classic and quite versatile

>>18552585
parkhurst 645

Choose my next pickup for me

>>18552588
A darker brown or dark oxblood would be a good idea, especially since I might be able to use it for more business casual events every now and then. The White's semi dress in particular looks really good, but I'm a bit on the fence about the heel. And no these are the orslow regular fit fatigues.

>>18552594
I was looking at Parkhurst a lot actually, although it was the Allen 618 in this burgundy color rather than the 645. I'm just concerned that they may look a bit too similar to what I have already.

>>18552601
618 is the furthest thing from what you need

>>18552601
i don't know if white's still has this oxblood water buffalo available, but the pair i have is the perfect shade. the heel thing is overblown imo, especially if you just get the block heel

https://emptygarage.jp/SHOP/WHITESSTOCK253.html

>>18552593
brother that is not oxblood. this>>18552605
is oxblood this>>18552580 is clown red

dont shout at me
its a brg stuation

>>18552603
Is it because they're too sleek?

>>18552605
That does look quite good, they don't seem to have it on their website but I'll have to look around.

>>18552601
the wacky giant welt contrasting with the darker vamp looks hideous

Had a pair of hitec boots for 20 years, resoled them plenty of times never took care of the leather it is finally perishing on me, I’d like something similar (6 lug with the top two being speed lugs or whatever theyre called) thats good quality and repairable

>>18552498 (OP)
Where to get overshirts like this?

>>18552679
https://divisionroadinc.com/blogs/bulletin/the-genuine-article

>>18552611
>this >>18552605 is oxblood

It's not. They don't even call it that.

Oxblood is a dark maroon color and gets a red patina as it ages. Your Ronalds are more oxblood than the dark cherry that you're calling oxblood.

>>18552621
I miss the red welts so much

>>18552600
Go with the pair you don't have one (or a lot) of. No chelseas? Go with the chelsea. Got some chelseas? Then go with the lace up.

>>18552810
I dream of having a chesterfield in the study/library of my country estate.
Thanks for reading my blog.

Which boots have a high hill or a thick sole in general? I need to balance out my manletness a little tiny bit

>>18553170
55 last, lug sole

Anyone else with big feet find it hard to wear certain styles? Chelseas always look like clown shoes for me even when they're a perfect fit (US 13)

i now deeply regret not getting the arch support option on my ny parkies

>>18553423
>>18553412
Because white people are clowns

Smooth, rough out or suede? Why?

Never had Thorogoods before. Are these worth it?

>>18553423
>arch support
train your feet and your legs american
>>18553444
All 3. Why not, whichever I like on the boot and want for the collection at the time.

>>18553412
I feel that chelseas can easily look clownish depending on the last and how the toe is shaped. There's nothing to distract from the smooth, flat exterior, and that would be magnified the bigger your size. I think you could still make them work, but you'd need to find the right shape or get the toe unstructured.

>>18552504
here's a very similar pair for a lot less: https://kleman-france.com/en/42308598.html

>>18553524
>Are these worth it?
They're generally well-regarded by workfags. Too few negative reviews to blame construction or QC.

Bootfags don't care for them.

>>18553763
Because people actually use those for work. Those of us who wear mocs for fashion wear 875s.

>>18553524
i hate the white sole

new grant stone

>>18553862
chocolate suede always looks so much better in photos than in person

Is suede really that bad for rain?

>>18553994
No but rain is bad for suede

>>18553994
Here.

>>18553524
you're better off with the RW 875

American boondocker vs britbong service boots?

Why are dianite soles a red flag in the OP?

>>18554053
the inherent design leads to hydroplaning the moment the extruding studs are worn away, making them extremely ineffective in both urban and non urban usage

>>18554053
They're not, the person that made the OP is trolling and it just became tradition to copy it each thread
Dainite is very hard, some might find it uncomfortable to stand on all day, but the biggest issue with dainite is the lack of grip when it rains or snows. I've fallen on my ass from dainite several times
Otherwise, it's good. Very durable and long lasting. My Whites with dainite are are the same sole 7 years later

>>18554053
they have worse traction than vibram

>>18554055
>you fall over when it rains or snows
>otherwise it's good
dude

>>18554053
I think they're great. Look good and long lasting. I've never fallen on my ass while wearing them and I've used dainite soles all year-round. Not as good as commando soles in the snow obviously but not so bad that I can't wear them in the winter. I've even noticed one aspect where they're actually better than treaded soles in the winter, and that is when it's snowy outside and you go inside. Sometimes for the first few steps when you walk inside it feels like you're trying to walk with two ice cubes under your feet because of all the compressed snow in the treads. Nothing gets stuck on dainites though so I've never slipped while inside with them.
>tl;dr no sole is great for all 4 seasons but dainite is great during 3 of them and op is a faggot
I'm gonna try buy a new pair of boots for this winter though without dainite soles. They're pretty cold too though since they have no treads that keep you off the cold ground.

>>18554077
so don't wear them in the snow. problem solved, retard

or you could just buy boots with regular treads and wear them in whatever weather

>>18554152
did you miss the rain part retard?

dainite soled boots are infuriating because boots are perfect for rain and then they put a fucking dainite sole on them and I can't wear them in the rain anymore or I'll slip on my fashionable ass

>>18554053
Half the op is a shitpost that's grown with time to make it so the only reasonable boot to get if you follow all the rules is a PNW logger.

Any recommendations for oxfords around the $250 price point? I wouldn't be wearing them often, just need something a bit more formal for work events.

>>18554161
>I can't wear them in the rain anymore or I'll slip on my fashionable ass
Sounds like a you problem. Have you considered not being clumsy uncoordinated faggot? I bet it'll probably solve 90% of your issues with navigating a concrete sidewalk in dainite soles.

>>18554053
Nothing really. OP is just being a faggot as per usual. They probably had a bad experience doing something stupid and chose to blame the soles.

Truth is lots of highend bootmakers have used it and it shouldn't be a deal-breaker for a pair you like if you're not planning on hiking or roofing in them or something. Ignore OP. He is a fag.

i lost 4 friends to dainite on rainy tile

>>18552498 (OP)
how long or how many wears do you guys think it should take to break in boots?
i bought some kommandostore repro paramemes forever ago. i've worm them occasionally to try to break them in, but they never seem to get any comfier.
they're super tight around the bridge of my foot (on the diagram) and that never seems to loosen up, not sure if they need to be broken in even harder or i just sized wrong (ordered my usual size but i have very weird feet).

>>18554417
i will usually do a few hours a day every day for a week. so maybe 24 hours of wear? give or take
i don't wear them for full days immediately. i did that with my iron rangers and regretted it

>>18554309
I am an athletic coordinated no homo faggot and I've still slipped in dainite
try living in a country that has real rainfall and a few hills

>>18554417
>how long or how many wears do you guys think it should take to break in boots?
enough,
1-2hours on the first day
and then increasing on the subsequent days (don't have to be in a row) until I can wear them for the whole day(or at least 8 hourse around the house

>they're super tight around the bridge of my foot (on the diagram) and that never seems to loosen up, not sure if they need to be broken in even harder or i just sized wrong (ordered my usual size but i have very weird feet).
no, that's just sometimes a thing with lace up boots
darn tough has socks with reinforcments in that specific area as a consideration or just wear thicker wool if you can manage

>>18554417
Maybe you have a high bridge? It can happen sometimes. Search online for ways to lace your boots in a way that'll be less tight in that area. BTW, something similar happened to me with my paramemes and had to size up. Maybe it's the last.

oh to have the confidence to wear these daily

>>18554417
Really depends on the boot. I have had boots that took no time to break in and some that took weeks before they were comfortable enough to wear all day. I've got an insanely high instep and corresponding bridge, and I hate to tell you this but they might just not work for you. You can try alternative lacing styles, but some boots just don't accommodate a higher foot. I've wasted plenty of money on boots that were perfect in every other way, but the instep was a deal breaker.

Thoughts on these Oldspeed boots?

Can someone please share the boot brand matrix (formal, casual, etc.)? Děkuji.

>>18554831
>upper already creased as fuck out of the box

>>18555070
>creased as fuck
Dumbass

>>18554831
Great price, and the best bang for your buck for American made casual boots.

>>18554831
Look pretty good to me.

>>18555070
Wonder what you call creases

Bros, what's the consensus on Crush on Retro? Is it a pleather scam?

Also, any of you bought from Blkbrd?

>>18555211
I've seen varying reviews, redditors seem to have bad experiences with them while influences who got theirs for free say they are great.
The designs on the engineers are pretty garbage though.

>>18555211
these companies usually follow the same pattern of
>new company, undercuts everyone with prices, magically finding a way
>great for the first couple of years
>a lot of positive advertisements aka """"reviews""""" on social media
then they either
>delays, build up a backlog, and then cut and run
or
>lower build and material quality and claim it'll be better than before while charging more

in your case we're in the
>great for the first x years
phase

>>18555070
what the fuck are you on about nigger?

>>18555291
>in your case we're in the
>great for the first x years phase
So you're advising to buy?

lug chelseas y/n

>>18554417
>should take
0 wears, ideally they fit you perfectly out of the box

After that depends on the materials and construction

I am looking for a well-built chelsea boot from a European brand. Any recommendations? more casual/rugged than sleek and clean. Along the lines of the red wings classic chelsea or the blundstone model.

>>18555458
TLB

>>18555454
Gay.

>>18555449
the moment your money clears they immediately go into end phase

>>18555464
>great for the first couple of years
>in your case we're in the great for the first x years phase
Don't think it'll take several years for them to make his boots though so he should be fine.

>>18555458
>https://trickersfactoryshop.com/collections/chelsea-boots

What are some affordable low top leather hiking boots?
Realistically I'll have to think a lot to go over 150 euro or so.

>>18555504
Arket have some nice ones right now

>>18555574
I saw, they were on sale for 180 euro but didn't feel like paying 180 euro to h&m.

>>18555291
It's basically the same as enshittification

>>18555455
Fitting perfectly has nothing to do with breaking in stiff leather

>>18555470
>Don't think it'll take several years for them to make his boots though
see
>>delays, build up a backlog, and then cut and run

>>18555096
>>18555102
>>18555422
Are you fags blind?

>>18555802
jfc they're just boots. they're going to crease.

>>18555802
are YOU blind, faggot?

that is leather
that is what leather looks like
the first ass fucking time you put the boots on they will crease multiple times worse than what you're pointing at

>>18555802
Are you the type of faggot who buys footwear just to put on a shelf instead of actually wearing it? Fucking hell

>>18555802
That is grain, not a crease.

>>18555802
Do you even own boots?

>>18555802
Truman Boot Company was right

>>18555802
Why would anyone give a shit when you wear them for 30 seconds and they crease? You literally have to manipulate the leather to last them and it will cause some creasing

>>18555802
This dude is the kind of faggot from reddit that buys boots, takes one look at this "creasing" and then demands a refund
The exact kind of customer Vince hates

I don't like any boots ever posted here. I wear these and they make women moist.

>>18555697
That's what I said, if the boot fits perfectly there is no break in period.

>>18556343
Yes there is you fucking retard holy shit why do I even come here when idiots like you post here?

>>18556380
You've been memed into thinking leather footwear HAS to be uncomfortable, it is entirely possible to require no break in.

>>18556391
okay fag

>>18555696
Capitalism is a race to the bottom. Either your market share is big enough that people have to come to you and pay whatever you ask or your product just keeps getting shittier until your company is goob'd.

Looking for some good boots/brands for casual wear. Currently use some docs I bought for $2, they're beginning to fall apart, I like their style but the brands gone to shit. Was gonna get solovair's but they also turned to shit. I live in Australia and budget is like 500$ AUD, can go higher or lower so long as I get quality, value and style

>>18556474
not rm williams, that much I can tell an aussie

>>18556479
What's wrong with them?

>>18556490
they went to shit because they got bought out
construction and material quality dropped way down and prices remained the same

>>18556503
Grim. I bought a pair a decade ago and I love them, shame to hear.

>>18556503
I thought they got rebought though?

>>18556566
If they got rebought then I would've heard about it from my main news source /btg/ and I saw no such post

>>18556490
>>18556503
Foam insoles on 700 dollar boots is a crime

>>18556474
Wootten

Would you wear dark brown suede with black jeans?

>>18556566
>>18556675
https://www.rmwilliams.com/se/about-us/australian-owned.html?lang=en_SE

>pair looks great in photos
>order
>color looks shit in person
i'm sad bros

>>18556857
depends on the exact colour of each garment and the boot type
>>18556891
article says it's from 2021
the post about them getting bought was posted some time in the paste few months
>>18556907
:(

>>18556391
Materials that require no break in are less durable and provide less support.

I'm a zoomer who's never owned a pair of boots before. What should I look to buy if I mainly wear boring black outfits and want something casual?

I know fa hates them, but I swear Blundstones (and any adjacent brands like Redbacks and Mongrels) are some of the best beater boots. I've had mine a year and a half, and both the leather and soles have held up fine.

>>18557039
budget and continent you're located

>>18557208
>I swear Blundstones (and any adjacent brands like Redbacks and Mongrels
Just call them chelsea boots then blundstones are dislikedfor their offshoring of production, drop of quality in materials and astronomical increase in price simultaneously.

>>18557210
400-500GBP

>>18557364
crockett and jones or trickers on sale or just save up for full price
cheaney in that range

>>18557368
What style would you recommend assuming I'm just gonna buy a single pair?

>>18557389
anything ankle height black lace up
could look at other european brands but since you want one thing maybe it's best you stick to the ukay

Is there a way to artificially patina leather without fucking it up? I love how worn in dark brown leather looks when worn with black but it looks awful when brand new.

Anyone had experience with Grant Stone? Thinking about copping these

>>18557426
you can artificially wear them
>without fucking it up?
no such thing exists besides what tanning processes can do and painting the leather but to paint it it needs to have no colour as a start
>>18557428
better than meermin worse than anything proper from europe
they've been raising prices consistently and soon they will lose their value proposition if they haven't already for some pairs
more structure (boots) is better from them than less structure (loafers) since the latter requires skill to sew

Why do European bootmakers tend to have much less variety in leather options?

>>18557434
>soon they will lose their value proposition if they haven't already for some pairs
except everyone else got even more expensive

>>18553524
I had a few pairs in steel toe for work. They lasted a long time. But they are no comparable to my whites boots.

>>18557428
Chinese boots for American prices

>>18557474
Caring about leather and the tannery and where it came from is a very recent thing
Before, no one gave a shit

ultra-budget women's boots, who makes em?
and when I say ultra-budget I mean the kind of stuff you people call mall brands. my sister sits in an office all day, she doesn't need anything sturdier than that.

>>18557761
>and when I say ultra-budget I mean the kind of stuff you people call mall brands.
malls, malls make that stuff, go to a mall

>>18557761
aldo, call it spring etc

>tfw realized I've worn my Iron Rangers for 13 years without changing soles
I mean, it's not that I wear them every day, but shouldn't it fall off by itself by now?

>>18557781
things usually don't fall apart unless they're subject to excessive stress over lengthy periods or they had defects in production. hope this helps.

>>18557781
If they're that old they have the old nitrile cork soles which are pretty much indestructible. The stitches will wear long before the sole does and they're glued anyway
My IRs are 9 years old and nowhere near needing a new sole, though they're basically my number 3 pair of boots after my Whites and Aldens

>>18557208
Well, tell the high end Chelsea makers to stop making them look like pretentious, dressy bullshit. As soon as you put gay little dress soles and pointy toes on Chelseas then you look like a faggot Beatles cosplayer wearing them.

>>18557987
But what if I want to look like a faggot Beatles cosplayer? Which chelseas should I get?

>>18558006
I mean you do you I guess. I just vastly prefer the more work style chelseas. The lug sole thursday chelseas are really the only one that comes close to similar looks, but of course people will poo poo them because they're thursdays.

do you guys think commando soles would stick out too much with a suit? black boots + black/charcoal suit

>>18558112
yes

>>18558112
yes
do ridgeway

>>18558112
commando soles are the high-test soles

I'm going to go to each of the cobbler shops in my city and gonna ask for a job
i want to work as a cobbler for a year or so and then start making my own shoes

>>18558112
Nobody under 30yo would care. Zoomers have regressed expectations of traditional mens' fashion and decorum it basically means nothing.

>>18558308
A lot of boomer establishments are the ones enforcing "no hard soles" which is forcing many people to wear those weird oxford-sneaker hybrids. I myself had to buy a pair just to attend a conference a couple months ago
this is not a one-sided thing at all

>>18558456
>A lot of boomer establishments are the ones enforcing "no hard soles"
That's the most retarded fucking thing I've ever heard. How does that even make any sense?

>>18558456
>I myself had to buy a pair just to attend a conference
no you didn't

>>18552498 (OP)
I was feeling paranoid about the possibility of mold in my boots, so I took some videos inside to check. Do those black spots look like mold? I'm paranoid enough to think they do, but there's no smell or feel to those dark spots. Could it possibly be something harmless and just cosmetic?

I've felt no changes or, quite frankly, infection in my foot, so I feel like I'm in the clear?

>>18558494
Do you wear the same pair every day?

>>18558456
STFU you lying faggot. No workplace enforces "no hard soles" on the wage slaves, especially boomer establishments.

>>18558112
What kind of boots?

>>18558489
>>18558502
>let me tell YOU what happened in your life
all I'm saying is that sometimes it's not always about the "heckin zoomers" but by all means continue to be overly hostile about me pointing out my own observation

>>18558494
wipe with vinegar

>>18558501
No, but I do wear them for long stretches at a time. If I wear them two days in a row (which sometimes happens), I just give them a longer break.

>>18558517
Sure

>>18558507
I didn't say what happened, I said that you didn't have to buy that garbage
but you did because you are stupid or a pussy

>>18558517
this creates mustard gas

>>18558456
what the fuck is a hard sole

>>18558456
how are they enforcing it? are they using a measuring device for the hardness of the sole?

Hello I am a city boy and I want to be a poser cowboy because I want a new style in my closet. I like this Stetson hat, but I wanted to know what are good boots to match with this? I don't know if it's good looking to match a black hat with black boots or not, but I'm looking to wear the hat occasionally and the boots more frequently with jeans.

Any recommendations?

>>18558875
any non western boot will make you look retarded. just look for western boots made in leon mex and call it a day

I'm going to make my own shoes. I've decided. All i need to figure out is where to source the last

>>18558942
find a 3d printing service

>>18558974
I literally just want Alden's loafer last, I think it's their Van last. I want to make an Alden clone that's not made with any synthetic materials but also handwelt it instead of GYW since handwelting doesn't require a machine

good engineer boot?

anyone knows boots similar to this? I think these are hiking/gore-tex boots, no?

>>18559095
danner

>>18558538
I assume he means leather sole which just proves he's a lying fucking faggot.

>>18559089
Are you a real engineer or just an IT nerd into LARPing?

>>18559255
Engineers are just computer nerds too

>>18553360
>>18553861
>>18554021
>>18554154
>>18557774
kys you braindead drunkard burger
you lurk in this literal toilet 24/7

>>18559255
>Are you a real engineer
Engineer boots were never worn by engineers it was marketing.
They're just derivative of horse riding boots.

>>18559418
As in the first exact pattern of an engineer boot was the 1917 US army Calvary boot.
And those boots were used by workers and repaired during the great depressions when they started being produced for the civilian market.

>>18552498 (OP)
Boots ID in that picture?

>>18559430
https://divisionroadinc.com/products/whites-semi-dress-350-55-vibram-mini-lug-horween-british-tan-cxl

>>18555291
well well well another bites the dust

>>18559487
Retard learned the hard way
What's he gonna do? Lmao

Is Fracap good quality? Need winter boots(for grip not insulation). Fracap m120 or Red Wing Logger? Or something else. Can't decide on what I want.

>>18559418
>>18559424
Wikipedia claims that these were used by people working with steam engines (hence engine-er). So not what we understand as an engineer today.

>>18559089
We still have some great jackboot tradition in germany.
One day I'll buy and wear one of these and not give a single fuck what people think of it. One day...

>>18559255
do you have to be soldier to wear an m65 jacket

>>18559089
wesco

>>18559255
You stupid fucking retard lmao they're engineer boots because train engineers wore them when shoveling coal into the furnace and the high shaft kept ash from going down their boots
It has nothing to do with some ugly STEMcel engineer

>>18559533
they're called engineer boots because of the calulated structural integrity of the shaft. the style was first adopted by civil engineers around the 17th century

>>18559255
do you have to be a soldier to wear khakis

>>18559540
Retard alert!

>>18559255
do you have to be royalty to wear chelseas

>wear wrangler 13mwzs cowboy cut jeans with cowboy boots
>literally never been on top of a horse
Many such cases (me)

>>18559533
>ugly STEMcel engineer
I feel really well
I get paid more than you
Cause I am an engineer
Who are you? Repair Crew! Hey Hey Hey!

>>18559549
2/10

>>18559506
Fracap is outstanding quality, just read the reviews if you have any doubts. Otherwise get a pair of LeCortina. You can hardly go higher than that.

Give it to me straight guys, do I buy Beckmans in the same size as Iron Rangers?

>>18559519
Yeah I know but that is false history perpetrated by marketing departments during the great depression.
Don't believe everything you read on wikipedia.

>>18558456
My workplace started to allow jeans, but you still have to wear "non-sneaker" shoes. So I wear IRs.

>>18559533
>>18559540
Who comes up with this shit?
I hope you guys are joking.
https://www.kreosote.com/engineer-history

I see like 2 good boots per general. You all seem to like some plastic looking trash in bizarre form factors.

>>18559638
Fuck off you fat cocksucker. Someone's waiting for you.

>>18559639
looks like I triggered the work from home IT guy

>>18559623
Ah yes this link you posted surely convinced me otherwise

>>18559642
you live inside this thread, go out and ask for Christ or the nearest pub

you'll thank me later

>>18559367
you hit 4 people

These are hurting my feet about 30 hours in on a 55 last. I'm having a hard time thinking they will stretch wider? I had my feet measured at the store. Did I just waste 630 dollars or is this going to get better. I'm skeptical.

>>18559832
specifically where are they hurting?

>>18559835
The outside toes. I understand break in for the top and ankles is standard but I'm worried they are too narrow

>>18559838
is it an instant put on boot kind of pain? or sore after a day of wearing kind of sore?

>>18559842
After a few hours it starts to bother me.

>>18559853
socks with padded/reinforced toes

Right or left?

>>18559911
They are both cringe.

>>18559923
didn't ask. left or right?

>>18559924
You did ask. Twice now. They are both cringe.

>>18559925
didn't ask if you thought it was cringe. left or right?

>>18559616
Half size up

>>18559616
yeah, they used to be on the same last so sizing was identical but they changed the last but it's still 1/2 down like all RWs

>>18559911
The darker one.

>>18559911
left because I don't like split toes
tlb has a dark brown split toe loafer that I could maybe wear but otherwise they're not for me

>>18559616
I got old beckmans so I'm not sure if this advice applies to the new ones.
Both IRs and okd beckmans had the same last so I sized them according to my IRs. The thing is IRs have a cotton linning while beckmans have a leather lining. This makes beckmans effectively a tad tighter than IRs. My IRs are already on the snug side, and my beckmans are even more. I didn't realize this until after the break in period, so no returns.
I can wear my beckmans alright but can't wear them with my thickest socks. In retrospect, I wish I had gone half a size up on beckmans and wear thick socks or even an insert with them if needed, rather than having to wear thinner socks with them.
They say the new beckmans run a bit small so if I were to get new ones without trying them on first, I'd get half a size up from IRs.

>https://stuf-f.com/products/clinch-yeager-boots-gustave-cowhide-natural
How mentally ill do I have to be to do it?

>>18560288
https://www.luosjiet.com/products/m1944-boondoker-boot-luosjiet%C2%AEboots-olied-nubuck-reverse

>>18560288
not a fan of that last and the really tall back panel

>>18560288
The last is really ugly, I never understood the obsession

>>18559540
I thought they were worn by civil engineers or something in the field until I looked it up

>>18560288
>>18560300
Looks like literal batshit.

can I wear these if I'm white?

>>18560492
you can but you'll slowly turn into a nigger

>>18560492
do these even have a shank?

>>18560504
stfu

https://shoegazing.com/2024/12/22/buyers-guide-european-workwear-boot-brands/

thoughts on this list?

>>18560668
Pretty accurate

Is the lack of arch and footbed support in Red Wing (thinking about the Beckman right now) really that bad as they say?

>>18561100
No. But it's better to have it than not having it.

>>18561100
it's not bad
it's good


your arch support is your arch
your footbed support is the bed of your foot

What was that PNW brand that hates his customers and fucks with them? kek

>>18561229
truman?

>>18561100
Nope

>>18561229
Truman because his customer base is made up almost exclusively of reddit posters who buy his boots and then immediately scrutinize every single insignificant unimportant thing and post it online then demand a refund
He's tired of these "people" being the only ones that buy his boots so he's going to either get out of lifestyle boots completely and start making actual work boots, or sell the name and get out of the industry
He's also a raging douchebag which makes anything he does do even more hilarious because he has zero tact or awareness

Thoughts?
Have worn this brand's sneakers before and liked them, lasted me quite a while, was thinking about these.

https://www.koio.co/products/bergamo-in-anchor-mens?variant=43086270070953

>horween dublin
jesus christ why does it age so horribly, it looks like someone with cerebral palsy moulded a boot from playdough
>>18558875
packers are western coded with the security of a laced boot, but they're so sleek and narrow with a high heel that they're hard to pull off if you're not natural to them

>>18561364
The leather is unbeatable quality but they’re overpriced for a pair of Blake stitched dress boots.

>>18561377
Horween Chromecast Excel or whatever they call it is one of the worst-looking types of leather on the planet.

>>18561416
horween dublin isn't CXL, its cowhide tanned with the same tanning solution as shell

>>18561417
how does it get so sloppy and distended then?

are shells so tight that they're tanned specifically to loosen them up a bit?

>>18561414
Nothing wrong with Blake stitched boots

>>18561420
because at the end of the day its still cowhide, just tanned with the same solution as shell. its not like the tanning solution turns cow to horse

>>18561421
i've had blake stitch boot leak from walking through puddles

>>18561421
I like blake stitching when it's to the midsole and the outsole is nailed to the midsole
sleek, resolable, durable

>>18561423
Yea I get that, but there's plenty of way tighter veg tan cowhides

or is the leather all distended after such short use because he's intentionally waterlogging a vegtan leather because of thunderdome retardation

>>18561424
yeah it does look like he soaked it and wore them wet, flexing the boot hardcore while wet leading to the bloated sections

>>18561424
>he's intentionally waterlogging a vegtan leather because of thunderdome retardation
I have zero context for that pic but I'm willing to beleive something like that.

>>18561357
Truman has a record of at least questionable QC. Not Thursday-tier, but worse than Red Wing.

>>18561421
I’m not saying they’re bad, I myself have Blake stitched (actually Blake Welted) boots and they’re great, but 535€ is unjustified imo. Very good leather though, if that’s what you’re looking for.

>>18561431
Sorry your "work" boots have a scratch when they arrive. Not like they won't be covered in scratches after 30 seconds of wearing
Better demand a refund

>>18561450
>500$ boots have issues that 300$ boots don't
>this is somehow acceptable

>>18561450
fuck off, Vince

>>18561431
Truman from what I've seen have very good reputation on QC. One or two that got a bad pair but that is to be expected. And even the ones I've seen on YouTube getting a bad pair already had like 5 pair each which they were perfectly happy with and which was partly what turned them into fanboy collectors to begin with.

People think a company has bad QC just because they've seen two boot YouTubers complain once.

>>18561564
well and then there are retards who think welt joins are QC errors

Does RW still use this leather? These look great

>>18561328
Lmfao

yall niggas stop sleepin on clarks

>>18561642
i like clarks because they are cheap enough to not care. 150 bucks for some desert boots that will last 4 years and i don't need to baby? sounds good to me

>>18561636
Yeah that just looks like the normal black leather they make. just never condition them and beat the shit out of them and that's what you'll get lolo

>>18561564
The other pairs are older from when they gave a shit about their boots. Literally every boottuber that has been a long time Troonman customer says the new boots are nowhere up to par. Especially considering price bracket they're asking. May as well save money and buy RW if you're getting RW quality.

>>18561564
I have one pair of Trumans from a few months right before they started ofgicially pozzing the boots. One boot had a minor scratch. The other had the footbed liner come unglued after a minth of light use. Literally never had something similar happen with any other cheaper boots.
Wrote to Truman to let them know (didn't ask for a refund or anything, btw). Their response was that the minor scratch was something that could happen when lasting java waxed flesh and didn't compromise the integrity of the boot (OK, fine). The footbed liner coming unglued,they said, could be due to the cold weather (even though it wasn't particulary cold where I live). Bullshit, they just saved half a cent on glue, that's it. Had a local cobbler reglue the liner for five bucks and now it's better than the other boot.
All of that being said, though, and ignoring those two flaws, the boots ate top notch. The stitching, leather, construction, etc. is flawless. They look and feel indestructible. Besides, the 79 last somehow works perfectly with my feet. They had the easiest break-in period of any boot I've owned, could wear them for a whole day with no pain, no chafing, no nothing.
Plus, the boots themselves are very comfortable, even more than my 875s. I've worn them for wjole days standing or walking without issue.
And it's worth mentioning that their sizing service is very accurate. Got the size they recommended and it's perfect. Had I gone half a size up or down, the boots would have been too big or too tight.
So overall, my experience with Truman was positive. But a 450$ boot shouldn't have the footbed liner come unglued in the first month. I don't understand why anyone would think that's alright.

>>18561636
Looks like the klondike leather which is akin to teacore. AFAIK currently they only use it in limited runs, like the Beckman flatbox or the recent release of their engineers.

I want to get my gf a pair of chelsea boots for Christmas, what are some good brands for women's boots? She's had a pair of blundstones that are finally wrecked, so I'm looking for something similar. Very casual style, dark brown, and lugged sole.

>>18561636
Yes. It's Black Prairie.

Which is better: Nicks or Truman?

>>18561842
Nigs.

Troonman has been slipping. Their old boots (like 5+ years ago) should be okay, though.

>>18561431
>Truman has a record of at least questionable QC
That's only recently. They were decent up until a few years ago.

>>18561845
Do you think the Audubon will look too much queer if my clothing style is more leaning towards the dressy side of the spectrum? I love the look, but there’s always the Comstock as for a safer choice.

>>18560492
Yeah but fair warning they fit extremely wide. When I tie them on I literally have ligature marks on my fingers so my toes don’t slam up against the front every time I walk down slanted ground.

>>18561848
I wouldn't but that's because thick leather midsole for the office is not my style. If think it's for you, my only recommendation would be to get the edges colored so that they look somewhat normal.

what’s the opinions on balenciaga strikers? specifically the cloth variant. i got them a couple of months ago and they became my daily wears, they’re so comfortable and good looking it’s insane

>>18561866
maybe size correctly next time?

>>18561955
>i got them a couple of months ago
No you didn't

how accurate is this? I don't know much about shoes but I think I'd like a pair of brown captoe boots, but I'm not spending over 250 dollars man what the hell

>>18562165
if you aint willin on spending over 250, then just buy whatever you want homie, 400 MINIMUM is the starting point for le quality

>>18562165
>generic timbsclones and hikers are combat boots
super accurate

>>18562165
>REFINED MEAN NO LACES
yeah no, bullshit as every single infographic i’ve ever seen

>>18562165
it's not
also
make more money brokie

>>18561818
>But a 450$ boot shouldn't have the footbed liner come unglued in the first month. I don't understand why anyone would think that's alright.
It isn't a real issue just like the scratch.
You got it glued for $5 by a professional and could have done it yourself for free.
You're not spending $8000 on a bespoke shoe.

>>18562117
what kind of reply is this huh
do u want me to post a pic of them

>>18562278
post them we could use a laugh around here

>>18562165
All those boots belong below formal, even balmoral boots are technically not formal but are much more formal than any of those.
It's not like it even matters these days, any event you're likely to be invited to you'll see sneakers everywhere no matter how formal it is supposed to be.

>>18562165
>brown cap toe and "chunky" cap toe are literally the same boot with different soles

>>18562279
i think they’re pretty :) only bad part is the soles getting pretty worn and all the white distressing washed off but it’s to be expected for me rocking them basically daily for all kinds of activities

the pic didn’t upload

>>18562345
How much

>>18562280
In Cali everyone here is dressed so poorly that just wearing a shirt with a collar in most business settings.

>>18562376
*works in most business settings

>>18562345
grim but not surprising that pedos couldn't come up with even a decent design

>>18562366
i got em as a birthday gift from a friend c:
but i think they retail for like 800 bucks or something
>>18562362
it is FIRE you are smoking sativa
>>18562392
its a bad pic but if u look up some other pics of it the designs on the stitching n stuff are mega pretty. alongside a really nice sole design. my feet never once got wet even in really deep puddles which i never expected with it being made of cloth n stuff

>>18562409
the last is ugly, the sole ridiculous and they have fucking faggot zippers
the waterproofing is either a function of the synthetic material or a DWR coating
it's nice to have a friend that can give you such expensive gifts but maybe that friend should get some taste

>>18562409
nah
>z*ppers
>fake welt
>fashion brand

>>18562430
>>18562433
zippers make it mega comfy and nice to put on and take off, idk why you hate on them.
and ye! it's all about mutual gifts tho, i help him out with drafting patterns n stuff for his store sometimes too

>>18562446
don't call it a grave, this is the future you chose

>>18562446
>idk why you hate on them.
because they suck in every way
proper boots fit just fine without retarded failure points that additionally make the whole structure weaker

oh and I forgot to mention that they are glued in my last post which is another terrible thing about them

>>18559540
nah im a STEM engineer and has nothing to do with our field nigga, its the train engineers like others said

>>18563186
>STEM engineer

All the Goodyear welted boots I see are either pointy faggot dressy shit or cringeboi reddit workwear cubanheeled boots. How is it possible you can not find a fucking middle way, Jesus frigging Christ? I'm going insane

>>18563404
That's odd because pointy toes or cuban heels are clearly in the minority of goodyear welted footwear. Maybe check your eyesight.

/btg/ says that Thursdays are bad, so where can I get a boot that looks like this but isn't bad?
>brown leather
>lug sole
>no speed lacing thingies
>no contrasting elements
>nice and simple

>>18563475
post a rec champ!

>>18562277
>You're not spending $8000 on a bespoke shoe.
He spent $450. The average person would consider that a very high amount to pair on a single pair of shoes. Even the average $60 ASOS pair of shitters would arrive without needing immediate repair.
What causes you to defend bad quality control? Are you just being a contrarian, or are you a professional cock sucker?

>>18562409
I hope you realise now that the only reason those fags wanted you to upload photos was so they could cope and seethe and tell you how bad they are. Blue boards are infested with these kinds of people.

>>18563517
i dont look at fa too much and this is like the exact reason lole, so many people here are just bitter for no reason. fashion especially is an interest where everyones styles and likes should be appreciated cuz no matter how not into you are into a certain style of garment, someone absolutely LOVES it and makes it work for them.
its silly...

>>18563480
literally and I'm not exaggerating 90% of good makers have this
it's called a firggin boot for crying out loud dude just look

>>18563517
>you should kiss a faggot's ass because he has a pair of boots
>you shouldn't criticise shitty boots because muh cope and muh seethe
kys nigger genuinely

>>18563494
Red Wing Logger

>>18563480
why no speedhooks

>>18563567
just remember we warned you about zipper failure

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>>18563780
>>18563780

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>>18563780
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>>18563683
>literally and I'm not exaggerating 90% of good makers have this

No they dont. It's always some gay chelsea or brogue or some chink design with a zip or whatever they have laying around

>>18563722
They look ugly, reminds me of my service boots

>>18563516
>What causes you to defend bad quality control?
It wasn't bad quality control as he said the issue didn't arise until after a month of wearing it.