How to lift the autism and loneliness away?

having the tism is good though, just gotta find you a tism woman

>>76230362
How. Im sadly in love with my normie collegue and she is out of my league

>>76230351 (OP)
I tried breh. I can't change who I am underneath, although I got better at fitting in.
For a time I had friends and stuff but I felt like I was just putting on an act around them. Now I kinda just isolate myself

>>76230351 (OP)
You can't, dumbfuck
better embrace it

>>76230460
How

>>76230463
Well that's up to you to figure out, but I give you a tip.
Just be yourself, no need to pretend to be something that you're not.

>>76230351 (OP)
Autism and loneliness are like fire and gasoline for lifting

>>76230479
Honestly being yourself is unironically the best tip.

You dont have tism
You need to socialize more

>>76230594
Foot pain made me chuckle

>>76230396
idk I got lucky like 15 years ago bro gl

>2025 is going to be my year
>finally get a gf
>can't work out twice a day anymore
>break up with her
>now I can work out twice a day

feels good. don't fall for gainsgoblins

>>76230351 (OP)
you don't have tism then. I don't understand the concept of loneliness. Do you not always have something to do that's enjoyable? There's so much to do in life anon get off the board and go do something then lmao. why would anyone want to be with someone who has no interests anyways? create the path and they will follow.

>>76230362
It’s not good it’s debilitating. And autistic chicks get with normal dudes. Why the fuck would they choose some sperg?

>>76230351 (OP)
It's real fuckin hard I tell you that much
32yo and just now fixing the fucked up gigaobese dyel body that I created through a decade+ of protective apathy and stagnation to not have to confront feeling like shit

For a solid 15 months that autism drive to become obsessed with calorie counting and logging steps and workouts got me to a much better place physically. But 210 lbs down and beginner gains has only brought me from like a 1/10 to a 3/10 with a fucked up permanently disfigured body.
And now no longer having protective apathy and trying to open up to people to create some connections is picking off old brain scabs and tapping into hyper anxiety and depression that I haven't felt in over 10 years
Fixing the body is a lot easier than fixing the brain, I fear
Even so if you were truly far gone like I was the body will never be fixed either

This is a different issue than most people here I guess, I was boogie-tier with my shit
You go too deep and you can't just come back
If you're just regular fit and spergy yagmi

>>76230775
Autistic people are statistically incredibly lonely because they want to connect but can't and much more prone to suicide because of it
Glad for you if that's not you

>>76230785
fake autism then. you have self diagnosed yourself with a condition (which is already a social construct btw and it's not something that is measurable within platitudes) but you don't even have the fake condition you diagnosed yourself with. youre looking for an excuse as to why you dont interact with others. very odd. and then crying on an anime board on top of it all. reread what I just posted and sit back and take that in momentarily brother and realize how you look

>>76230797
but you contradicted yourself
>For a solid 15 months that autism drive to become obsessed with calorie counting and logging steps
replace this with an activity/hobby. how do you feel lonely while simultaneously being obsessed with something? I played my drums yesterday and didnt think of a single different thing for the duration I was playing them. Find new obsessions, you literally will not have time to feel lonely.

>>76230785
life is what you make it lil cousin don't gotta project all over me for making mine gud

>>76230351 (OP)
Literally lift NAC; N-acetyl-cysteine. Bunch of studies showing it works for autisms on all the Jewish medical databases, just check you don't have some weird contraindication and don't start at some crazy dose like Bryan Johnson takes. It chelates metals, so you might wanna sharpen your metals supplementation skills to higher levels than him too.

>>76230802
I interact with others every day unfortunately, at my job. And I have to have a job if I want to continue living. Even though I think about painting the wall with my brains every day.

You posted a single sentence that needs no further analyzing. Do you know any autistic women? I do, she’s an alcoholic sex addict. Her last boyfriend was some 6’4” fat guy.

>>76230821
Why’d you reply to me twice? Don’t pretend to be black.

>>76230810
I play guitar and produce my own music
I was coasting on that for the past decade
I thought it was enough, I used to sound like you
Until I cracked and realized it wasn't and it's all a really thin veneer of a cope
Love and connection is everything when you stop coping and it's scary as fuck that you have no idea how to get it

>>76230836
the guy that wrote a book is a different person than me who you first replied to

>>76230832
>Do you know any autistic women? I do, she’s an alcoholic sex addict. Her last boyfriend was some 6’4” fat guy.

first of all, bringing up her ex and stating his height is genuinely incredibly weird. not sure why you're even mentioning that part lmfao. with all due respect, you scream insecurity with that analysis. none of that has anything to do with you. focus on yourself. I don't talk to many women at all desu, doesn't really bother me whatsoever, kind of what my point was in the first place. they will come to you when you are worth coming to. you will not achieve that posting what you're posting and thinking the way you're thinking currently.
>>76230841
yes, love and connection matters, but what is love and connection if you don't have your own personality? if you detached from your guitar and production of music, seems like you dont have a connection with yourself nor do you love yourself enough to even pursue that with a third party. I think you should try and solve that dilemma first anon, you can do it brah, WAGMI

>>76230351 (OP)
You don't even notice as it happens. After years of making your life happen you'll see something that's seemingly small to you in the moment, like picrel is my gf texting me as I left for a work trip, and it suddenly brings everything, especially how much you've grown, into perspective. You'll make it, you just gotta keep your eye on the prize.

>>76230856
Am I being trolled? You didn’t say anything about self-love nonsense. I mentioned her ex because she picked some tall normie, you know, because autistic chicks don’t go for other autistic guys? Got me to reply at least so good job you made me take the bait.

>>76230861
I'm 34 already, when it's going to happen? How much longer should i wait?

I’m just tired of porn. I always get horny after a run/workout but if I go without it takes me forever to come.

>>76230877
>I’m just tired of porn
good

>>76230872
you're not being trolled, you're literally just low intelligence or have awful reading comprehension.
>she picked this, therefore its an absolute
regardless, you sound like a faggot. worry about yourself more than some foid. your previous post just proves you're not autistic but actually just a low confidence weirdo. touch grass

Action is the antidote to anxiety.

I tired myself rooning, I have a list of things to work on around the house, and I need to be working with my hands to keep my mind occupied.

>>76230876
lol this

>>76230876
Same age. Saw some short, fat, bald, poor-ass normie buying ramen and mayo in the grocery line behind me, and it really hit me how easy it is to mog these days. If you're remotely muscular and not fat at 30+, you're like elite body composition by normie standards lmao.

>>76231141
true shit lmao

>>76230351 (OP)
lifting doesn't work
long distance running is the key
when you are on a run you are neither lonely nor autistic
you still have this issues when you're not running though

>>76231161
cali>ldr tb h

>>76231169
I like both
but in terms of forgetting about life's problems LDR is unbeatable

I once had a gf who at the end of our relationship said she thought i never seemed to love her. A part in me wonders why she would say that, if there is truth to it. In my view i showed her i was thoughtful, gave her my full attention, helped her with everything; i listened carefully to whatever was on her mind. I thought i showed her that i loved her. Don't get me wrong she was a total bitch, every day was hectic, and she could be very unreasonable and i'm glad its over nowadays, but it makes me wonder when she said that if i'm actually really compatible with relationships. Maybe i'm better off alone.

>>76231175
both are ideal with fast walkin and sprinting

>>76230351 (OP)
>Outlift Autism
No, you're trying to outlift your height, face and/or hairline. "Autism" is simply subpar looks and your awkwardness is simply (valid) insecurity dressed up as social dysfunction.

>>76230911
ok thanks for the diagnosis, doc.

>>76231204
Go back to /r9k/ Ranjeet. Guy on the left looks far better than he would if he was sedentary and the guys on the right for sure work out.

>>76231204
Is hang out with the guy on the left any day. Guys on the right too. Difference is guys on the right have the opportunity to start balding and bloatmaxx whereas guy on the left proves he’s intelligent enough to stay disciplined.
>>76231207
You’re welcome. Btw nothing wrong with a “sex addict” if you date them and they’re loyal. Sounds incredibly fucking based actually. Why do you hate fun?

>>76231161
Yeah running is huge for my well being, feels great. I wanna run every day and and run further but my legs disagree.

>>76230351 (OP)

The thing is Im so autistic I like being alone. I never feel lonely and being around people just bothers me

>>76231180
Looking for sense in her words is like reading the tea leaves anon. She was likely an emotional, irrational retard at the best of times. I wouldn't look too deeply into her parting words.

>>76230351 (OP)
3 grams a day of beta alanine worked better than the 5 different types of anti depressants I've been on in curing my depression completely.

It's impossible for me to feel sad anymore. I can't make myself feel sad anymore, it's impossible. I started to notice that it's impossible to be depressed on the 7th day of taking beta alanine, hopefully the same works for you.

Now I no longer have to take an anti depressant that works partially and just makes me feel hungry all day.

>>76231141
That short, fat, bald and poor-ass normie comes home to his wife who loves him the way he is. I come home to an empty appartment.

Wellbutrin is the only thing that worked for me. Benzos work but you can't take them long term otherwise you get seizures.

>Jew pills
Don't care. Only thing that worked. Tried therapy, supplements, etc and they didn't work. Some people's brains are just fucked

hmm based on how scatter shot the answers are most of you anons are just overthinking too much. you need to figure out how to remind yourself to stay in the now in body and mind

>>76230785
>Why would people choose to pair their life to someone else with a similar disposition, life outlook, mindset, and interests?

Its a mystery

>>76231204
I am 6'2, sixpack, sharp jawline, pristine hairline (and huge dick).
'Tism doesn't give a fuck.

>avoidant personality disorder
>too afraid to talk to people or do the things necessary for a good life
Only thing lifting did was be a activity to take up time in the day. Sure maybe a few people were more open to me than before. It means nothing when you’re still too neurotic to talk to them and spend most of your time alone or not making eye contact or talking to anyone

>>76230351 (OP)
I don't know man. I'm 47 year old virgin and I have literally good physique with semi visible in a very comfortable 15% bf. It's just so tiring. Anyway, I will go for a run later on, I just feel so sad.
>>76232676
>>76232676
>avoidant personality disorder
Also this. It goes without saying. It's not the worst curse to live with but it's pretty bad. I have women literally hitting on me and I don't know how to respond.

Losing yourself in something is made for autist
Normie can’t isolate themself for long time
Use your nature effectively

>>76231180
Did you smash
Did you rail her like you wanted it or were you some weak fag
You have to breed her raw before you do the gay pillow talk BS

>>76230351 (OP)
You lift to be ok with it.
Also, being fit means you can get a relationship without too much effort (though the autism makes it almost impossible to keep it for long term)

In my experience as a socially retarded sperg it is much worse being jacked, well dressed and well groomed than a skeleton stickman with 0 attention from women. Because now i get what i assume to be women showing interest in me (though i'm still uncertain since i'm a 23yo khhv), like yesterday i had 3 women in separate occasions tell me i look good/handsome/muscular. And i said fucking "ok" or "i know" because i am a fucking autist and i can't even look women in the eyes most of the time. If i wasn't a fucking absolute massive retard i would have had a girlfriend since high school. I remember in junior year a girl literally told me her cute blonde friend had a crush on me and i said "is she retarded?" FUCK. It feels like a mongoloid retard hijacks my body whenever a woman shows interest in me and i turn into the Magnus Carlsen of fumbling my chanced with hot women hitting on me.

>>76232826
do this pose and say "aw shucks" and they'll giggle then ask for their number
if she gets an "ick" face you dodged a bullet (a jaded one)

>>76232826
>It feels like a mongoloid retard hijacks my body whenever a woman shows interest in me and i turn into the Magnus Carlsen of fumbling my chanced with hot women hitting on me.
Lmao just smile and laugh bro I'm autistic I didn't know to smile one cue until high school

>>76232870
>hey Anon, you look really handsome in that shirt
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>...
>...
>umm... i think i need to go now...
>y-you too

>>76232906
look you're either mocking her (showing dominance) or you're being friendly, it's a win-win

>>76232826
Yeah I have the same problem. I'm 21 also khhv. I just never had it in me to intiate things with women. I've talked with a few girls but it literally required for them to give me their instagram or ask for mine. And they never worked out because I'm too scared to push things too far in case I make a fool of myself and they end up losing interest eventually.

A few months ago I had a chink girl at the gym come up to me and make small talk, ask me what my name is and all that shit. The next few times I saw her she was with a friend so my autismo was too scared to say anything and I ignored her. Or I was at the grocery store and the cashier asks if I wanted some of her chocolate but I saw her coworkers around so I assumed she was trying to play a joke on me.

I know my problem is I'm scared of embarassment but I don't know how to fix it. Probably just going to die alone lol.

You do know autistic people have lots of friends, usually because they surround themselves with people with the same passion as their autism.

You on the other hand need to be more social. Do more social things in the gym, take classes. Talk lifting with more people. Challenge yourself to not take your headphones to the gym and watch how many people suddenly talk to you

>>76232984
>>76232826
Yep, yep, exact same problem for me. Similar situatons where women obviously approach me, but i am too much of a pussy to do anything beyond make small talk, they eventually lose interest, repeat. Maybe the reason is that i have 0 self confidence from being bullied a lot when i was a kid and having no friends up until high school.

>>76232826
Go full autistic and ask chat gpt what is a socially acceptable reply (including actions) during those scenarios.
Because chatgpt is basically an average of what the most common person would do, you can't go too wrong.

Beta alanine 3 grams per day
Vitamin d3 10,000iu once a day every morning

>>76232995
> You do know autistic people have lots of friends, usually because they surround themselves with people with the same passion as their autism.
Yeah that’s the difference with me as a person who hasn’t really kept many friends in my life. People with autism or nerds or other people considered socially awkward or who normal people don’t be around too much frequently will become friends with similar people. So you will have nerd groups, like who play video games together, or dungeons and dragons, or anime, whatever other nerdy hobbies you can think of, so they at least have friends. Sure it’s a group of “weird” people who generally repel normal people, so their social circle stays pretty isolated.

But for me, it’s just been straight up social avoidance. Like not even getting hobbies to do with people. Even when I had a massive “normie hobby” (when I was huge into watching sports through high school and college and most of my 20s), I still never tried to watch with people or anything, just would watch alone and discuss it online.

Im 30 and never had a gf and im a virgin, though i did kiss a girl
I havent talked to a woman other than my mother or a doctor or a clerk in 6 years.
Had terrible experiences with women, several of them and a major heartbreak ( turns out she was a scheming golddigging whore). Women these days are despicable, i mean majority not all of them obviously. I dont even talk to my sister, not since she tried to make my life living hell by constant bullying, verbal and physical abuse and manipulation.
People mistake my kindness for weakness then start bullying me mercilessly.
I dont even stare at hot women outside anymore cause i know stuff isnt like it seems. Sure, she looks great but most likely shes a huge burden with her retardation and wont bring you even a little bit of happiness

>>76231141
32 here and I mog zoomers

>>76233337
You gotta remember that not getting and going through a divorce is a good thing. You could have the opposite experience, ie, get divorced and have everything taken from you and pay alimony.

Be great full your the opposite

>>76231500
this post made me go buy 500g of beta-alanine
that's why I love this site, random esoteric anecdotes that I take more seriously than published scientific studies

>>76233354
incredibly based

>>76233348
Well the opposite would be someone whos in a happy relationship so no im not the opposite. Or someone who never even wanted a gf and never dealt with women.
I had my major problems with women so i know how terrible women are. So its not the opposite, though divorce rape is definitely worse

>>76232826
>I remember in junior year a girl literally told me her cute blonde friend had a crush on me and i said "is she retarded?"
K E K

>>76233025
>Asking an AI how to appear human
I kneel. You won autism.

>>76233354
You won't regret it, the only side effect for me is a tingling sensation i feel on my skin, it happens within the first 30 minutes of taking it, it last no longer than a few minutes. Apparently it's really common to get this from beta alanine, so common that a majority of people get it.

I'm sure the longer I take it the less common it becomes.

>>76233364
>Happy relationship

After a year of being with the same girl you get tired of her and her shenanigans, this is why divorce occurs.

You are a fool to think every relationship is a happy one, if its true there are happy relationships then why is the divorce rate and cheating rate so high?

Answer that question, dumbass.

Be great full you don't get bamboozled into marrying a whole that leaves and takes everything from you on your 8th year of marriage to her.

Be great full you don't have a girlfriend who constantly texts you to see if you are cheating on her.

Be grateful that you never had a child with a whore who leaves you 7 years later and whom you are forced to give half of your paycheck to for the first 18 years of your child's life.

You don't understand how lucky you are in never experiencing a relationship and the bullshit that comes with it.

If you are that depressed, take 3 grams of beta alanine like that other guy said, every day. I'm sure you won't even bother thinking of being sad you are not in a relationship of you take such a powerful anti depressant such as beta alanine.

Just imagine yourself with a woman who constantly texts you to see if you are cheating of her and in reality the bitch has been having sex with plenty of guys behind your back

>>76233499
I dont think all the relationships are happy ones, why would i think that? Where did you get that from? Obviously i live in this world and i can see stuff going on, most of the relationships are terrible.
Ok, man, i am grateful for that. Gotcha.
You really need to learn how to spell my man though

>>76230351 (OP)
Work as a pt
Get paid to watch cute girls butt to sculpt as you like
Help old ladies rehab and fellow men get their dream body.
Talk alot with different interesting people

Still go to your empty apartment after 16hours of pt with a feeling of something missing. Try one night stand and discover the rot of this world
Congrats you find the world is hell for people like us.
Find a good cope and devolve your life for it

are pumpkin seeds the key to it all? protein, carbs, BOTH healthy fats.

Just play the game, forget your feelings of lost innocence, forget about puppy love and disney romances, don't live in a fantasy world waiting for some adventure to happen, grow up.

Figure out what your role is in society and genuinely do your best to fill that role, do not overshare with anyone, not even your parents, you have to get used to the reality that you are not the main character, this isn't a video game.

Try new things, hanging on to nostalgia is understandable but makes you a corpse that just daydreams. Those things you have nostalgia about were new experiences at the time. The whole world will change faster than you think, by 25+ you will realize that this is not your world anymore, you cannot associate with people your age as well as you could before since everyone has become so complex now, do not be the one that remained simple and if you did, don't give up.

I also want to make clear that I don't intend to be negative at all, there's always a better life than what you have right now, there is a life for you out there that can make you feel like "home" but you have to go outside to find it.

>>76233536
Yeah something is missing. This society has become too alienated, too divided, theres no sense of community and caring for each other. Also, theres no decent wife, obviously
Btw are you on gear?

>>76233536
Take beta alanine. 3 grams once a day in total. If you can't handle taking 3 grams in one sitting then take 1.5 grams twice a day.

>>76233513
Pic related, you need something to do, something to strive for mentally that will keep your mind off of those mental thoughts which make life seem depressing. Buy the books in pic related, study them, do the problems.

>>76233619
Thanks but i have masters in CS so i studied math for 5 lifetimes already.
Also, i am not depressed, maybe thats unusual but i truly am not. Sure i do get sad but not depressed. I just do my thing, i laugh i do stuff that i love to do and thats it

>>76232349
The sexual habits of autistic women have actually been studied before, they overwhelmingly look for 'father figure' type partners, like normal daddie's girls but on steroids, usually with a big age gap. Some 4chan shut in would be better off going for a normie girl.

>>76233566
I’m the anon with the pic 2 post ahead.
Every autist is different. Your advice is in extremely good faith but practically it have lots of falls. You may find peace in you childhood world with a worldview who allows certain kind of emotion that dies the moment your world crumbles replaced only by heavy traumas.
When your entire life objective since childhood is unobtainable you are basically a walking corpse, a common grave of rotten dreams.

Stagnation was the best outcome for me but i was dumb and open to new experiences. Now i have a suicide planned.

>>76233571
No

>>76233664
It's telling how I mentioned life outlook, mindset, interests and disposition and you immediately went to sex.

Bros I've almost made it. I'm a kissless virgin in my thirties and after working out for a year I finally gathered the courage to initiate a conversation with my super cute female coworker. I didn't know what to talk about so I literally started talking about retro games and old school anime and one thing lead to another and now I have her number and we've made plans together. What the fuck just happened?

>>76233680
Sex is what people tend to do with their partners... you'll realize this when you finally get one.

>>76233716
Correct, it's one of the things. It's not 99% of the things, nor 99% of why you choose a partner. You'd know this if you actually had a partner instead of posting "you'd know this if you actually had a partner" on an anime website.

>>76233727
You're starting an argument for no reason over semantics because you're a boring retard with nothing going on internally.

Autistic girls look for older men with fartherly aspects, for sex, and for partnership. It's well studied.

>>76233741
Feel free to post those studies, buddy.

>>76233337
>People mistake my kindness for weakness then start bullying me mercilessly.
Are you me? This has happened to me almost my entire life and now I can't become close with anyone because of trust problems. Why are people so evil?

>>76230351 (OP)
>autism
embrace it
>loneliness
find a girlfriend

>>76233337
>>76233755
you're mistaking your own timidness and lack of assertiveness for kindness
hope this helps

>>76233758
wow u just solved inkweldom good shit dogg

>>76233764
we're living in the ages where the women are the most promicous they've ever been
I literally see the ugliest motherfuckers get pussy, you're an incel because you don't do anything about your life
pic related last weekend at the club, saw this absolute ugly subhuman that with two chicks, they made out in the women's bathroom
you have no excuses

>>76233671
My advice is pretty specific and as such will only help the people that it applies to, I only wanted to get it out there to help anyone that is in the same position as a younger me.
I cannot get in your position and I do not know what your problems are and how you feel, especially if you have actual depression that needs to be medicated.
I understand that it is a struggle, not just mentally but physically, the body and mind chemistry can be a total bitch but seriously hope that you get better.
Also keep in mind that just because you reached out and ended up with something that made you hopeless doesn't mean that everything is hopeless, life doesn't work like that, even if you feel that way.
I would suggest meeting new people and if you are put off by girls that do one night stands try other types.
Do not reach into your toilet bowl and cry about getting shit on your hand.

>>76233761
I am actually kind, i help people, i give them advice, i love them if possible. I can be assertive when needed
>hope this helps
No it doesnt.

>>76233779
youre right theres somethin wrong with me lol

>>76233779
Promiscuity has been going down for decades. Boomers were the most promiscuous, followed by Gen X, then Millennials, then Zoomers.

>>76230351 (OP)
>do martial arts
Find a striking based martial art with a lot of sparring, something like (kick)boxing or Kyokushin karate. The sparring is all about facing your fears and quick, instinct based decision making under pressure. This is the antithesis to the overthinking spergs like you and I are prone to. Find a good gym: bruises after a good spar are normal, broken bones and concussions are not. Regardless this is what changed my life the most and my biggest regret is not doing it sooner. Try it for a year, see what happens. It unironically changed my life.

>put yourself out there
Join something like meetapp and attend parties and group activities. Go on speeddates and to singles events, which are getting more common as more people are jumping ship from dating apps (lmao Tinder just committed suicide with the height filter). Even if no relationships or friendships follow, you're getting in your social reps. Keep trying, keep improvement.

>study
Read up on social skills books. The classic is of course "How to make friends and influence people", and the author's central thesis still rings true: focus less on making others think you're interesting and more on being interested in other people.

This is what changed my social life. I still haven't made it(tm) but I'm doing a lot better. I even exchanged phone numbers with girls on two different instances this year (both on their initiative).

Oh and
>keep hitting the gym/do the looksmaxxing basics
Looks are a modifier, not a flat bonus, but spergs like us need every leg up we can get. Exploit the halo effect. Stay away from hardcore lookism schizo shit like bonesmashing and mewing though. Just get lean, lift for aesthetics, dress nice, take care of your hygiene and get a good skincare routine.

Also
>avoid the blackpill
Don't demoralize yourself. The blackpill is crabs in a bucket. You're climbing out and they don't want to see you succeed.

Good luck! We are ALL going to make it.

>>76233833

>>76230351 (OP)
You will never be a real incel. You have no autism, you have no negative canthal tilt, you have no deep seated emotional resentment. You are a well-adjusted man twisted by irony and memes into a crude mockery of a stone cold virgin.

All the “rejection” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back girls love you. Your parents are proud and happy for you, "Stacies” swoon over your masculine appearance behind closed doors.

Women are utterly smitten with you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed women to sniff out chads with incredible efficiency. Even incels who “pass” look strong and charismatic to a woman. Your deep voice and good sense of humor are a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to earn a little online incel clout, you'll get cancelled the second your DMs get leaked and everybody gets a glimpse of the e-girls thirsting over you.

You will never be depressed. You wrench out a fake "tfw no gf" every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be miserable, but deep inside you feel the happiness creeping up like a weed, ready to bless you with unshakeable confidence.

Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll find a girlfriend, marry her, knock her up, and have seven healthy kids together. Your parents will praise you, happy but a little bit sentimental now that their little boy has finally grown up. They’ll spoil the kids with candies and toys, and every acquaintance for the rest of your life will know that you're a fakecel. Eventually you will pass on surrounded by your loved ones. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a family that misses you dearly.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

>>76233779
literal dumpster diving in the toilet

>>76233850
volcel if you wouldn't

>>76230824
Yeah I do it 2x a day, still a sperg. All it did/does was make my liver pretty happy and help with nasal congestion.
Not much else
The only cures are R-MDMA (under trial in Switzerland) or pinning Oxytocin.

>>76233869
>or pinning Oxytocin.
LITERALLY CUDDLE A WOMAN FOR 15 MINUTES

>>76233871
Yeah but in order to get there you have to get a woman first. I saw post on Lookism (holy shit what a grim site) about dudes pinning oxytocin before dates. It works because they’re no longer touch starved anxious messes when the oxytocin is flowing.

>34
>only one friend
>we mostly communicate through text because he lives in a different city
>he doesn't know he's my only friend
>social life consists mostly of talking to family or people at work
>so fucking lonely
>no one to go to the movies with, have dinner with or just hang out with shooting the shit
>loneliness is worse during the summers because can everyone else see having fun with each other

I should've invested more in my HS friends bros... We had a nice group of 5 friends back then.

>>76233466
yeah I've taken it in preworkout many times, but not in those dosages I don't think, I get the tingles bad, even on my scrotum
but whatever, a man doesn't mind a bit of discomfort; that's life

>>76234257
just found out my preworkout has 3.2g of beta alanine but I hardly ever take it cause it gives me the shits and make me feels like a tweaker

>>76233761
No you’re just a self-interested normalcunt sociopath. Being gentle and kind doesn’t automatically make you a doormat but cattle line you seem to think so.

>>76234298
no, of course not, but there's a difference between being confident, assertive, bold AND kind, and being kind because you're a pathetic wimp trying to please everyone just for a crumb of reciprocation
you're not nice because you want to be nice out of kindness - you want something in return for being nice, which is exactly what makes you a pathetic loser that gets walked on

>>76233025
> "Hey anon, you look cute, can I have your number?"
> oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck
> pull out phone
> pull up chatGPT
> typing is too slow, must use dictation
> softly mumble into your phone "how to reply to girl asking for number"
> stand there in silence while reading the reply
> finally know what to say
> look up
> girl is gone

>>76234341
Yep. Everyone who gets abused, betrayed and/or taken advantage of is an evil demon and deservers to get gunned down in the street.

>>76234222
Hey at least you have a friend. I have lost contact with every friend I've ever had because I've moved towns twice, first for uni and then for work. I got invited by them to drink a few times but because I'm such a fucking mess I fucked up every interaction ever by getting way too drunk and releasing my inner demons. It is what it is.

>>76234222
Checked, loss is a big part of life. As we age, we will only lose people around us and its very hard to make new friends as you are older.
All my childhood friends moved to different cities/countries, have families and we see each other 2-3 times a year at most and we are slowly drifting apart more and more.
Its actually very rare to keep in touch and regularly see your friends from childhood when you are older, life just separates people.
That doesn't really bother me because i don't mind being alone, but if you are a social person try to get a gf so at least you have someone.
>social life consists mostly of talking to family or people at work
You can hang out with coworkers, they won't be your friends but if they are cool you can still have fun

>>76230351 (OP)
Autism is a gift anon, blessed be the sleepy ones.

>>76234222
Beta alanine, 3 grams a day, better than any anti depressant I've taken.

>>76234387
>You can hang out with coworkers, they won't be your friends but if they are cool you can still have fun
That's not necessarily true. I became friends with a female coworker of mine by sperging out and cringely asking her out one time while drunk at a work party and got immediately rejected because she already had boyfriend. I was so devastated that probably out of pity she said that we could try to be friends instead and after hanging out with her for a bit we found out that we both like very obscure music, games and anime and became good friends. She's married now so no chance of it becoming anything more than that but I'm happy that I now have someone to talk to and hang out with occasionally. We even play co-op games sometimes.

>>76234354
I think he means to do the research beforehand, run a bunch of simulation scenarios and find out normal responses

>>76234470
Happy friendzone story, a rarity

>>76234341
I don’t expect anything from anyone. I give grace to others because it’s just who I am, regardless of how poorly I’ve been treated.

>>76234222
You have to do something with your life before regret and frustration eats you alive. You have to go outside. You have to meet people. Got a hobby? Find like-minded individuals. Don't have a hobby? Get one, join some classes, go to some people gathering (can be some event, a festival, a concert, whatever), talk to people. Ask for their contacts if you get a good time talking to each other, if you don't, you will never see them again, so who cares.
You have to make mistakes and suffer for it - even if no one says or does anything when you maje a mistake and all your suffering are internalized. It's okay. Your choice is temporary suffering to achieve happiness or eternal suffering as you grow older and things get exponentially harder to fix.

>>76234503
Same. People say to treat others like you want to be treated yourself but it's a fucking lie. People will just take advantage of you and step over you to make themselves seem better.

>>76234586
It’s about being strong enough to endure the shittiness of others. Be the person you want to be and don’t let people drag you down.

>have no standards with women, literally every female from teenage through their 40s or probably even 50s I find to be cute or attractive, as long as they aren’t obese
>having regular sex or girlfriends should be extremely easy because of this
>too autistic to talk to people, no idea how to flirt or “hit on” women, would feel like a creep if I did
>don’t really have friends either
>have a pathetic job where I don’t talk to people either
>going on 34 years now of utter loneliness and misery that most people can’t even comprehend

>>76235447
Beta alanine, 3 grams a day!

I keep telling everybody, it's better than any anti depressant I have taken.

>>76235454
>I keep telling everybody
Because you sell it?

>>76232319
underrated post

>>76233566
Good post, the assimilation into the system part is meh but you do indeed have to play the game somewhat to get what you want unless you're into dating bohemian art chicks and living that lifestyle. Right about nostalgia though. It's challenging somewhat to not compare everything in life to when things were simpler and more carefree. Have to refer back to the present; its all we have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU7d2EHV_OQ

>>76230802
social constructs are a social construct

>>76233836
only 25 percebt of bitches even use dating apps at all, youre getting a skewed view of the world from 4chins, sad but true. Most people vent and complain, the last thing you think to do when something good is happing is post about it here.

>>76230351 (OP)
you don't

>>76235454
hey wow another cool weird trick that will fix all my problems, lets just throw random massive inputs into the most delicate machine in existence, what could go wrong?

>>76235739
A pessimist

>>76235776
>>76235454
There is absolutely zero mechanism by which beta alanine would have any effects on depression. All it does is buffer lactic acid in your muscles. It does literally nothing in relation to mood or mental clarity.

>>76230351 (OP)
Most "nice guys" are that way due to unresolved trauma from their childhood, which has conditioned them to be people pleasers and doormats in order to avoid further conflict and trauma. Oftentimes, we don't even understand what our trauma is until we dive deep into why we are doormats. Once we address this repressed trauma and get over our fears of confrontation and being ourselves, we can start to socialize like normal people without constantly living in fear of being judged or punished.

Read "No More Mr. Nice Guy". ( https://archive.org/details/robert-glover-no-more-mr-nice-guy-id-353324692-size-612 ). The book really changed my life and helped me address my repressed trauma, returning my confidence and helping me a ton in my social and romantic life as a result.

>>76230351 (OP)
>35 and still virgin

>>76233780
Nice metaphor anon.
You’re right. My life was(and kinda is) a bog of decay morals. My grandparents and parents relationship are extremely disgusting so obviously i wanted to find a more pure and innocent relationship. My efforts failed until i lost myself and drowned in that bog too. I’m torn now. To continue live in sin obtaining resources and women but dying inside every seconds or to search love in my way but probably die alone (autism statistics about relationships are extremely grim)
I’ll follow your advice but I find hard to have hope. Everywhere i search is filfhty. To the married, church, business, charity, rotary club, druggies, goth/alt and /fit women.
I’m stuck. I need help. I wanna just escape all of this. I wanna live in fantasy and daydreams.
I’ll trade every fitness tip and knowledge i have to find a solution to this.

>>76236102
My trauma goes do damn deep there is no escaping it.
My parents are both completely fucked up, my mother is a narcissistic and my dad is probably even more autistic than I am and I have literally never had a conversation with him nor does he ever do anything other than watch TV or sleep.
Because of that I had no idea how to be a man while growing up and of course started getting bullied hard. This caused me crippling social anxiety that turned me inwards and to protect myself I started pushing everyone away and eventually lost every friend I've ever had. Even decades later I still have problems talking to people and even bigger problems getting close with anyone because my brain just can't comprehend that not everyone is evil that maybe they just genuinely want to know me. I always feel that everyone thinks I'm weird and cringe and makes fun of me behind my back even though I know it's probably not true.

>>76230957
Best post itt. Can't be a stressed worried bastard when you've got a lot of shit to do.

>>76236576
Yeah, but when i fill my schedule with hobbies (for example i'm in a symphonic choir so we tour often, i kickbox and compete, lift OFC, play multiple instruments, lead a church choir when i have the time, etc...) eventually i have a few moments to myself and then dread kicks in and i realise i'm still a loser with 0 friends and a kissless virgin in my mid 20s and nothing i've been doing actually matters and then i cry myself to sleep like a pussy bitch. The only longterm solution to being lonely is to get a good friend group/significant other

>>76236741
I go through phases like this as well where I distract myself enough to be happy for a while and then at some point I just break down and spiral all the way back to the bottom and the cycle repeats. It has happened so many times that I might actually be bipolar but I doubt it and I don't want meds to lobotomize me.

>>76236102
That's not how you use quotation marks.

>>76230351 (OP)
Hello friends! You can only find true happiness if you can be by yourself and still see the beauty of life. This could for example be something like nature (and it mostly is only that) when going to the forest. You have to live in the moment and try to understand that everything we see is good as it is. The only person that can help you is yourself. If you cannot be content with being on your own, a girlfriend or, in general, other people cannot help you either.
Digits and we're all gonna make it!

>>76236864
>Hello friends! You can only find true happiness if you can be by yourself and still see the beauty of life.
You are absolutely right. To all of you, this guy is right.
True happiness in beauty comes from within. External factors like money, hot gf and others cant make you happy if youre not content with yourself, if you dont follow your path and not somebody elses path and if youre not true to yourself. If you are, just walking for 2 mins to the park outside your flat can make you immensely happy. Just being in nature, looking at the greenery, hearing the brisk breeze fills you up with joy

>>76230351 (OP)
Lifting makes it more intense but in a good way lol you will never. But then again this will help keep you young and nail a hot forever wife with no kids in your 40s

>>76230541
This image
My sides
Ohw fuck

>>76232826
>I remember in junior year a girl literally told me her cute blonde friend had a crush on me and i said "is she retarded?" FUCK.
LMAO

>>76232826
>a girl literally told me her cute blonde friend had a crush on me and i said "is she retarded?"
I've got good news for you anon.
Yes. Yes she was.

The loneliness will never go away, mate. I'm too weary of modern women to date, so I read romantic VNs to fill the hole in my heart. it is true what they say, the heaviest weights are the feels we carry.

>>76230396
Just ask her out, get rejected, then you can get over it sooner.

>>76235949
Beta alanine increase dopamine in nucleus accumbens which significantly contributes to reversing depression.

You dumbass

>>76237238
This is the way. Get rejected, be depressed for a few days and then come back stronger.

>>76236966
And you got the digits. Nice, fren :-)
WAGMI!

>>76230351 (OP)
That's the neat part, you don't. You just get jacked enough that people mentally typecast you as the strong silent type due to the halo effect. Just try to keep your mouth shut as much as possible.

>>76237323
Is this guy still plugging beta alanine? You got a shed full of it to sell or something?

>>76238229
It works better than any anti depressant I've taken so far and doesn't cause me to gain weight like an anti depressant does.

How do you find a fucking purpose?

I'm 35 and still live with parents, I got to work and save $1000 a month, that's it, that's my life.

I seriously don't know what to do, I have no friends and no relationships whatsoever, I spend all my free time by myself and it's always the same never ending loneliness and boredom. If my life was a word it would be called apathy or numbness. Nor happy nor sad, nor dead nor alive.

>>76238465
get fit and join the air force. the age limit is 41

>>76238482
So I make my life even more miserable?
Zogbot recruiters in this board have no shame.

>>76238465
pretty much me but I'm 40. I have a kid though so there's that. Get an outside hobby and enjoy the outdoors. I do inline skating and bike riding when i have time and am not injured.

>>76238465
We need more data. Location? Are you good at anything? Are you rich?
At some point you need to pick a sporting goal: do a track and field competition, do a martial arts competition, do a grip or strongman competition.
Traiming for this in a club will help.you socialise. Depending on tbe culture, it can take months for people to warm to you and become their friend.

Find some language classes. Chose one based on your own ancestry or make up an interest in Chinese or whatever. Study alone, tben go to classes, join language exchange meetups.

Bear in mind, if you are fit or at least lean, people will be more willing to be your friend.

After that, you should spend some time abroad. Tefl in Asia is an easy one. Go to Vietnam or similar. The job will force you to interract every day.

Dont stay living with parents until you are 60.

>>76238465
As for a purpose, humans should not die out in apathy. You need to preserve the good parts of human culture and attempt to breed. Thats what God wants.

>>76238506
I go hiking or to the river on weekends but even that is always the same, I enjoy it but being there alone all day can become quite monotonous too.

>>76238517
Somewhere in Europe.
>Are you rich?
Lol no I have 25k saved and a car, that's it.
>At some point you need to pick a sporting goal: do a track and field competition
I used to go to run races but lately work got me too tired to train.

I speak three or four languages already, although not very competently.
I worked abroad before but never fitted there either, still the same social retard.

>>76238504
well what you got going on now isn't working clearly. you said that yourself. so you need a change. and you can do a minimum contract get out and have military on your resume. don't come blogging if you don't want to hear the answer

>>76238465
Beta alanine everyday and start going to church to make friends with church people.

>>76238776
Not that anon, but most churches are just elderly now. You're not going to find many friends

>>76238547
>I worked abroad before but never fitted there either, still the same social retard.
The idea is that locals put your strangeness down to being foreign. In my experience, foreign languages are only really useful for socialising from B2 level. You need to be able to converse fluently.

Running eg 5k is a bad choice, everyone does this, the competition is too high. You want something niche, less people, its easier to become part of the group then.
25k is pretty good. If you are working 70h/week like an american cut down on work. As long as money increases every month its fine.
You could also try mushrooms. Read some spiritual or religious books, meditate. There is more to the world than materialism and evolution theory.

>>76230541
and yet you're still all dyel

3 grams a day of beta alanine!

>>76232826
>the Magnus Carlsen of fumbling
kek

>>76232349
Autistics would prioritize fantasy over everything else. Thus, autistic women would gravitate towards a dreamy prince that can sweep them off their feet, not some subhuman social outcast.

>>76230362
I found a tism woman. It's graaaaape

>>76234222
Hello I am 33 and I have not fixed this problem but I have made it much better.

Find some clubs or social events and go to them. It will suck for months and some people won't like you, but just keep going. It took me honestly like 3 years to take my social skills from 2% to 20% but my life is much better now. It's really draining and it's not really that fun at first unfortunately. You kind of have to just accept it's going to get worse before it gets better - but, it still feels kind of good to know you're trying and not just sitting at home by yourself all the time. Hiking clubs, bouldering meets, boardgame groups. Pick one. I actually got invited to some stuff and basically had a anxious breakdown and got weird looks like "wtf is wrong with that guy" but I just kept doing it. It filters out the mean people.

>>76239727
This is correct. From the outside my life looked normal friends, sports, partying and fondling chicks. Then I isolated myself for a couple of years due to depression at 18 and I was fucked, took me several years to get my social skills back to pre isolation.

>>76238776
Went to church yesterday, been going all my life. Not a single woman under 35 (i'm 21)

>>76230957
This

>>76230797
how did you fix the protective apathy

>>76241459
The women over 35 are the same women that never went in their 20’s, too. They’re only going because their eggs are dying and they want to “settle down” with a “nice guy” after riding the cock carousel for far too long. Women worth your time are already married. Sorry for black pilling

>>76242220
Yes, i noticed this. At any hobby, part-time job, or social gathering, whenever i meet a nice and sweet girl my age whom i enjoy hanging out with i soon find out she is either already engaged or has a boyfriend, whom she met in high school or even earlier. Some men really do just get extremely lucky and get a perfect loyal woman handed to them while they are still drooling 14 year old retards, they don't know how good they have it. Meanwhile all the girls in my rural high shcool were loose druggies. Like 4 of the 10 girls in my class are now single mothers and got knocked up by some late 20s bums during or immediately after senior year.

Lifting wont get you a gf, but it will make the pain of it more bearable. Some of us were never meant to make it. My dubs confirm this.

>>76242772
Some of us were never meant to make it singles confirm.

>>76232826
>like yesterday i had 3 women in separate occasions tell me i look good/handsome/muscular.

you must look ridiculously good, that's crazy. You won't end up alone just be a bit brave.

>>76232826
>"is she retarded?"

>>76230457
Damn. I feel that 100%. I haven't had a real conversation with anyone in ages

>>76231353
>>76230856
Christ you sound insufferable. Do everyone a favour and hang yourself.

>>76233745
>>76233727
Not op but those studies are real all it take is one google search. Though that wouldn't matter to you. You are someone who refuses to change their mind regardless of the evidence.

I am such a bloody retard when it comes to social interactions.

>Last year Halloween
>Wearing chainmail Gambeson in a Goth Club
>Walking around, a girl at a table with her friend calls out to me
>Excuse me, excuse me!
>I just wanted to say, I really like your outfit and your hair

I channel all of my social competence and say
>"Oh, thank you"

and walk away.

I have so many of these bloody interactions, what is this. Why do I do this, why am I so incompetent.

I once had a chick, who I met for like 5 minutes kiss me on the lips.

I did not get the hint. Somebody, for Gods sake, tell me what is wrong with me.

>>76230351 (OP)
Do walkouts
Pushups
Dumbbell curl farmer's walks outside
Sit-ups
Jumping Jacks
Jumping Lunges
Spider lunges
Use Exercise Bands
Go swimming

>>76234222
>he had HS friends
LOL cry some more normalfag. I feel grateful for my fat faggot loser HS years because it prepared me for the hell world that is the 2020s.

>>76243301
You're either drinking too much or not enough. Goths are unironically the way to go as an autist though, they find the awkward faggot nerd types cute

>>76230351 (OP)
With good form.

>>76230457
me too. Can't fake the funk.

>>76243255
Weird how you still won't post those studies.

>>76234222
I can pretty much relate to every word of your post except I’m 33, but I didn’t even have a friend group in high school I was pretty much lonely and isolated there too. My only “friends” are a handful of guys I text with about a hobby we all do but we never just “hang out”. And the summer thing is very real, knowing that people are out enjoying weather with friends or family and I just don’t.

I know that people say guys lose friends and get a small number in their 30s but having basically no one while also not having had any real history of friends has ruined my life. And it goes without saying that there’s been no sexual or relationship experience either, and even my job is terrible. And I barely even speak to my family despite seeing them every day. I just avoid everything. I’m terrified of more rejection and more failure so I just never attempt anything, never progress, and just rot my life away

Beta alanine. 3 grams per day

>>76230351 (OP)
You are lonely because you want to be alone. Bad people have bad things happen to them

>>76244329
You again

>>76230396
>year of our lord 2025
>still having crushes

>>76230876
you have to make it happen retard

>>76230876
Its time to take the schizo pill lil bro, its your only hope

>>76230351 (OP)
You know it's bad when the highlight of your day is going to the gym or getting groceries.

>>76230351 (OP)
You can't lift autism away. There's a reason why Gymcels exist. In order to "fix" autism, it would have to be done during your early part of your childhood.

Hyperbolic oxygen therapy cures autism

>>76245712
This is true, while i thankfully have improved alot over the years, being a big sperg during the early years of my life has caused me to miss out on so many friendships and experiences, now at 26, while i do have some friends, i feel like its not enough and i desperatly crave meeting new people, and having fun experiences. Its not like im too old or anything imo, but i just dont know how to even start meeting new friends

>>76230861
what kind of name is Bunches? Kill ya self, bunches

>>76245503
i feel you. sad shit. i have been thinking of buying food 5 days a week instead of one big haul every week just so i can go out and see some people

>>76233836
>avoid the blackpill
rather acknowledge it and use it to the best capabilities
im a sub5 5'6 guy of course i wont shoot my shot with the gigastacy (i've tried before she was ruthless)

>>76246542
Story time?

>>76246551
holy fuck here we go

>be me 18yo, about 5 years ago
>very attractive girl starts talking to me through instagram and responds to my stories (honestly to this day I still think she's the most attractive woman I've ever seen)
>at first I didn't feel anything for her, but she started calling me very handsome for some fucking reason
>that's when it clicked, I was kinda falling for her
>meet one time while going out with friends, didn't expect her to be there
>she was always giving me attention, touching my shoulder, laughing with me, hugging me (she told me beforehand that she hates touching people)
>right as I come home from the hangout I realise i fell for her
>for the span of a month keep talking to her through messages, she always replies late and me being unaware of how women worked at the time I kept messaging her
>I got so comfortable to her I even mentioned I have a porn addiction due to loneliness (holy fuck this feels so embarassing to admit)
>as the days go on she tells me she likes toxic men and men that are taller than her (you guessed it, she's taller than me and while I didn't care, she certainly did)

>do MDMA
>have intense feelings of empathy
>of fucking course I messaged her confessing my feelings
>she feels embarassed and rejected me
>whatever it was cool I could've handled the rejection at that point
>open up her story on instagram and she posted a photo of her saying how "she hates socialising with people"
>obviously this is about me, confront her about it
>"nuh uh, the world doesn't revolve around you"
>have incel rage about how she's an asshole and block her
>friend sends screenshots of her talking shit about me on her public story (although my name isn't mentioned)
>feel completely betrayed and baffeld that my actions affected her so much she needed to act like a victim for rejecting a guy friend, but i guess she just wanted validation from her other girl friends

post too long I'll be back with more

>>76246551
>>76246594

I forgot to mention that part of her appeal for me was that she claims to be a virgin and in my incel attention starved mind viewed that as an ideal (HOT WOMAN VIRGIN WHO TALKS TO ME??? I MUST CLAIM HER!!!)

LATER DOWN THE ROAD, LIKE 3 YEARS LATER

>fantasize about her compulsively daily, feeling bad about that situation where I blocked her (at the time i felt bad about it and didn't realise that she was in the wrong too, I would write huge paragraphs on my notes app to judge whether or not I was in the right)
>one day she follows me on instagram randomly after YEARS of no contact
>am very puzzled by it, but in my head I'm convinced it's some sort of le universe giving me signals or some shit and I follow her back
>I also randomly start seeing her in town or in the bus, my schizo radar is going crazy right now
>we randomly meet in a pub, and to my surprise she actually comes my way to talk to me specifically
>end up having a pretty nice conversation I'd say, I finally appologized for "back then" and she says it's not a problem or something like that
>by now I have the hots for her again
>she ended up inviting me to go to the gym with her for some fucking reason on the same day we met in the pub
>I go with her and holy fuck she got even hotter she has that gym girl ass it was perfect (not relevant to the story but felt the need to mention that)
>She also called another guy to go with us, although she never told me that and I realised I was cockblocked, but my delusional self held to hope for some reason
>the guy threw jabs at me by mentioning one time where I was an awkward loser at a party and she chuckled, I felt destroyed at that moment
>end up replying to some of her stories, barely any response

post too long I'll be back with more

>>76246643
she invited 2 different guys to go to the gym with her?
she sounds toxic af bro

>>76246551
>>76246594
>>76246643

>one time I go out and see her again but this time with her friend group filled with stacies and chads (all of them tall and handsome and drug addicts for some fucking reason)
>one of the chads starts hitting on her
>find out from common friends that she, indeed, has a MASSIVE crush on him
>see them together all the time
>one time i see her laying on his shoulder and talking like all night and for some reason i go to shake hands with the guy and i could just see her staring into my soul as i walk towards the guy
>the guy becomes overtime a complete asshole towards me (not relevant but felt the need to mention)

>a girl friend of mine, who is also a gigastacy, but I always saw her as platonic, turned out to have a crush on the same fucking guy
>i advise her not to get with him since i heard some heavy rumours about him
>the stacy friend ended up telling him about what i said about him
>she also fucking tells the girl i crushed on for some fuckign reason (and the way she gossiped to her about me was very off putting implying that the chad "stole my girl from me" when i was obviously making fun of my incel fate but whatever)
>at a friends birthday, this girl is invited
>confronts me about talking shit about her
>realise the stacy friend backstabbed me, find some bullshit excuse

in my mind the whole thing with this girl by now was over, and I now know my place.

>>76243988
you unironally need to start doing drugs

damn im really glad i dont let women walk all over me lmao

>>76246551
>>76246594
>>76246643
>>76246681

very very very important details to mention about all this. In my mind I was on this cringe journey of self imrpovement with reading books on social cues and stuff like that

I was also doing nofap like religiously and convincing myself that it works because of course it does why else would this girl from my past suddenly appear everywhere i went to after like 3 years???

for me this was the most blackpilling chain of events of my life and it made me realise how genetics and looks impact how I treat other people, as well as how they treat me. I bet heavy money that I wouldn't have obsessed about this girl for years if she was average looking. And I also bet money that she would've given me a chance if i was more attractive and taller than her.

To this day I don't know why she was friendly to me. She used to say that I was funny but that's about it. She just wasn't attracted to me. Either that or she liked me for the massive attention that I gave her, up to a point.

oh and the backstabber girl that gossiped about me ended up together with the chad, but they broke up like a month later so I guess I was in the right for warning her lol. I'm still bitter about how he didn't even lift a finger and already pulled 2 attractive women whom I personally knew.

Back then I had this impression that he worked hard to be where he was and that he developed social skills and other shit redpillers say but in reality he was always handsome and tall and did many drugs but still had a muscular frame so he won genetics on every aspect. He is also very sociable and funny. I totally envy guys like him knowing I will never experience the levels of respect and trust he has. despite him being accused of some heavy shit.

Nowadays I don't even bother with women, I've been given signals before but i was too retarded to act on it. Also my hair started falling at 18 and now im not only a manlet but also a balding sub5 guy too. Pls take ur fin+min

>>76246724
>Tl;dr autist gets mindbroken by first rejection in his life

>>76246731
and blackpill is law

>>76246681
she sounds unironically a good fit for you. you both have extremely low self-confidence

I don’t even care anymore. I’ve been a loser for my entire life. I’ve never accomplished anything. I haven’t been happy since I was a young child, miserable all through my teens, twenties, and now into my thirties. I have no goals in life, no ambition. I’ll never have sex or a wife. I’ll never have children. I’ll never have a worthwhile career or own a home. There’s nothing I want to achieve or attain. I never laugh, I never smile. All I think about is dying and suicide but at the same time I am terrified of the thought of it. Whenever I see stories of people dying young or killing themselves, I am filled with jealousy. I hate being alive, I hate slogging through every day. I hate hearing about how successful and happy everyone is while I wither away with no motivation to improve.

>>76246924
basically me but im in my 20's.
im too scared of continuing to live, but too afraid to die, being born with aspergers has literally ruined my life, i havent hurt anyone else why does life keep throwing shit at me, what have i done to deserve this perpetual emotional suffering? Im crying so hard rn bros i feel so alone

>>76230396
Damn. Same bro… sucks

>>76247069
i felt that way in my 20s and thats how i did nothing and got to my thirties like this. life only gets worse anon

>>76246924
>>76247069
Me but 27. I have no hobbies or interests, absolutely nothing that I care about. I have no reason to exist, no purpose to fill.

The 'tism won't go away. If you try, you'll still just be the punching bag friend that some twinky faggot will belittle to make himself look good. Getting really fit will make guys like that feel wildly threatened, and they'll double down on being shitty to you. Surround yourself with other spergs and sperg-adjacent people and you'll be way happier.

Unironically, consider the military or become a first responder. Those lines of work attract tons of autistic people, and you'll make easy friends.
>t. guy who started working in and office and became a cop

>>76247325
what should i do anon? i want to take action but i dont even know where to start, i wish someone just gave me a step by step guide on how to fix my life

>>76247384
the sad part is that its very easy to fix yourself, yet we just cant get the motivation to do it.

>>76247413
if its as easy as you say it is, then how can i do it? ill find the motivation somehow

>>76247421
what is it that youre trying to do anon, what is your problem

>>76247463
Its literally a trifecta, consisting of: making more friends, finally getting a degree, and having my first gf

>>76247568
Was not aware those things could be found on 4chan

>>76230351 (OP)
You can't. You need to put a wagebaby in a woman. Society needs replacement workers after you're gone. Do it.

>>76230861
your life is pure shit if you gotta cope and brag about it on 4chan

>>76236576
>construction workers don't have mental illnesses
Holy retard.

>>76233779
>ugly bastard paid 2 escorts

>>76234222
>failed normalfag
Embarrassing. Yikes.

>>76230362
I thank God every day for giving me a cute autistic goth gf who cosplays during sex.

>>76246594
So you basically spent years being friendzoned by a retarded but hot girl who had zero attraction to you. And it's no one's fault but yours. You just mentioned blackpill to feel better.

>>76248370
Yeah pretty much. But it's not years it's more like a month each time we talked which was twice.

Also made me realise just how important looks are and how clueless I actually am when it comes to talking to women. At least I know what to avoid in the future now.

I was a grade A retard who thought he had a chance for some reason

>>76246643
>>76246681
Shit like this makes me content i never socialized with normies. All of the people you mentioned here sound like complete pieces of shit. Why did you force yourself to be a normie?

>>76231204
This is so funny because I am on the right. I drink all the time and lift whenever but don't fuck around at the gym I have a very specific 3x week full body programme I have used for years.

The sad truth is that only homos need more

>>76248716
Well, whats your routine like?

>>76248753
Very simple because I can't remember anything complex:

Session A: Deadlift, lat pulls, ohp
Session B: Squats, bench, bent over rows

alternate between these Mon,Wed,Fri and then finish each session with tricep pulls, pushes and bicep curls.

I can not remember or track a more complex programme than this

>>76246594
>>76246643
>>76246681
>>76246724
Jesus. Unironically at this point why not crash out a bit? One of the most horrid things I've read in recent times. At least punch the guy, Christ.

>>76230775
There’s stuff I like to do but I don’t like anything nearly enough for it to do anything about the loneliness

>>76233779
More promiscuity actually means a smaller portion of all men can attract women.

>>76230351 (OP)
take the headphones out and talk to people at the gym, you will spill your spaghetti the first like 10 times but every time after that will be fine

>>76249095
I say hi to the few who don’t have headphones if we happen to make eye contact but don’t have anything more to say

>>76248645
>All of the people you mentioned here sound like complete pieces of shit
Honestly they were pieces of shit, but nowadays all my friends are very cool and I'm thankful for them, I just don't feel the need to validate myself for people's approval anymore.
I'm content with my social life, although I still wish I had a girlfriend.

>>76248797
>Jesus. Unironically at this point why not crash out a bit? One of the most horrid things I've read in recent times. At least punch the guy, Christ.

No point anymore, I moved on. Also I'm a dyel he absolutely mogs me I have no chance in a fight against him.

I still don't think that what I went through was horrid, I'm just a socially awkward guy who tried to blend in with the wrong crowd

>>76242364
Yeah, I was one of those lucky ones. Bagged myself a qute, devoted gf in high school. Didn't even want to be with her at the time.
She exploded mentally in her late 20's and left me heartbroken.
Don't believe in "nice and sweet" girls, they don't really exist.

>>76230362
I've dated two autistic girls and they are far more reserved and difficult to understand as opposed to the regular girls I've dated. They aren't into sex, unless they become hyper fixated on it but that usually lasts a week and then they're back to playing pokemon or watching medieval history videos.

>>76230362
Fpwp

>>76242364
If the girl likes you she will leave her boyfriend for you.

>>76248763
wait so this is it? That's all i need?
What the fuck is the point of pplpplpllplppp, I fucking hate having to log weight on a spreadsheet for 50 different exercises
is /fit/ just trolling?

>>76230362
Good luck finding a woman on the spectrum. Women are incredibly adept socially and are very good at hiding their power lvl

>>76230351 (OP)
This pic made me legit try to find that colored hoodie. Got close but never found one 100% like it.

>>76230351 (OP)
i've been utterly tremendously lonely, literally did not leave my apartment a single time for an entire year during the pandemic. technically only did that to get the mail and throw the trash out, even then that never required actually going outside my building.

still i was the happiest i have ever been as an adult because i was freakishly disciplined. then it fizzled out when I had to go back to the office.

just got a remote job (literally signed on Monday) so i am gearing up to fully get back on the train again. lifting hard enough can help fight even the most hellish of demons.

>>76230690
how do you make sure a relationship does not turn out to be this trap?

>>76230797
losing 210 pounds is more than just a two point increase on the scale, don't be so negative

>>76230876
Ultimately up to you, my friend.

We are all going to make it - the moment we choose to.

>>76230861
I'm not to gf level yet but i am starting to look at my own body more and more. I am starting to notice the separation between my delt and bicep and tricep and I have literally never had that before in my entire life. my calves and tibialis are looking joocy (yes i isolate them like an autist). my hands and forearms are bigger than my brother who lifts casually but isn't obsessed like me.

my traps also look pretty good from certain angles. the idea that i look in the mirror an flex at all is crazy, there used to be nothing to flex. I used to have a whole bunch of fucking fat and no muscle (I was 400 pounds a few years ago at my heaviest, now around 300).

Down 100 pounds and my sex drive and confidence is much higher. I'm not ecstatically happy but I am definitely not suicidal. If I get another 100 pounds that would take my total mental well-being increase from 100% to 200% which would be crazy. I will eventually be twice as happy as I am now just from fitness.

I have not even gained a single friend or girlfriend in losing this first 100 pounds and I am still feeling significantly better. Another 100 pounds and a qtgf would make every day significantly better.

Anyways, just typing out my thoughts.

>>76230877
really? since getting in shape my sex drive is a lot higher and now i have to consciously limit my porn intake.

>>76230957
>>76236576
>>76241488

Same 100%, i got into being autistic about cleaning recently and not only is it something physical to do, but it results in a cleaner place and I get significantly more sunlight just from everything reflecting more light. Cleanliness is a health hack. I am starting to mop all of the floors everyday and it takes a solid 20 minutes but the entire room is noticeably brighter.

>>76251183
a 26yr old is a child

>>76251257
What an insane thing to say. In your 20's you can fuck around and waste money and switch careers/majors/jobs on a whim. But by your mid twenties if you haven't achieved certain financial, societal, personal milestones you are literally a loser. By the time he was 18 Alex the great was leading armies. You don't need to do that but you should at least have a few friends

>>76230396
Two ways you can handle this.
1. The quick way, the “rip the band-aid off” method. Just ask her out. Go up to her at a good time and just say “hey femanon, do you have plans this weekend? I want to take you out to dinner at this cool spot”. She’ll either say yes or no, it’s that simple. If she says yes, congrats you got a date. If no, well at least you ripped that band aid off and you see that rejection really is not that scary.
2. Play the long game. Just casually compliment her over time, gas up her outfit or something, notice little changes with her, find inside jokes. In some ways it works cause you’re slowly building attraction, but a lot of things can go wrong. She might just see you as a friend, someone else might snatch her up in the meantime, and if you do eventually ask her out and get rejected it’s gonna be a much bigger gut punch than had you done the quick way.

>>76250528
I don’t have a sex drive, my balls just hurt cause they’re full of cum and I gotta let it out.

>>76232826
>I remember in junior year a girl literally told me her cute blonde friend had a crush on me and i said "is she retarded?"
kek

>>76251276
alex the great also didnt shit post from a a basement in a room with the lights on a website full of men in their 20-40s that cant for the life of them figure out how to talk to women. He actually got off his ass and did things unlike (You)

>>76251291
>Just ask her out.

>walk up to her
>clear your throat to get her attention
>"OUT?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!!?"
>she stares at you like you're retarded, which you are
>turn around and lunge in the opposite direction under the guise of working out

>>76251276
Please tell me that 26 isnt too late...

>>76250420
unironically yes, a simple barbel progression program is more than enough

>>76230594
Agree, this is best advice anyone can give u.

>>76251183
Literally me but I'm 6', 35 yo, bald, and non-fats do give me attention.

>>76230351 (OP)
I lost my gf last year and the depression almost caused me to take my life, I became unhealthy and relied on drugs and alcohol too much.

Any anons good with grief and loss, combating depression. I have only just cleaned my house after months of rubbish piling up and I have no money right now.

I need my drive back.

>>76253283
It's never too late, and that's not just a platitude. I've met down and out junkies on deaths door that had normal fulfilling lives, some started businesses, got very fit and fixed their social lives within only a year or so, they just had to change the way they think and their daily routine. Small steps compound over time.

>>76254298
Bless you anon, genuinly needed this

>>76245869
kek, underrated post

>>76254512
Don't listen to him, bitch. If you keep thinking 'tomorrow' 'i still have time' 'later' its too fucking late. You shouldve done it (whatever it is) yesterday

>>76254281
What happen broski you lost her in a breakup or what? What the story?
For me i just got cheated and now in denial also depressed. It hurt

>>76255222
I lost mine in a fire

>>76234222
>>76234222
>>76234222

This is me.

Has anyone tried using a site/app for meeting people? One of the bigger ones seems to be meetup.com but there's also something like amigossocial? If you have other/better suggestions, please let me know.

I was thinking it would be a nice way to be social instead of being by myself and maybe in the mean time I could make a friend or two?

>>76230351 (OP)
>be 27yo virgin
>social anxiety, low self-esteem
>go to language exchanges
>a guy approaches me, comments on my physique
>turns out he's a bodybuilding coach
>we become gym buddies
>introduces me to chicks
>gain confidence
>not a virgin anymore
Just go out and approach people in any setting possible, you'll get more confortable over time.

>>76256505
Unironically, what are language exchanges anon?

>>76256505
>Just go out and approach people in any setting possible
oh wow never thought about that one, never even considered it, that's quite the idea

>>76256505
so you would pretty much be a loser if not a guy went up and talked to you and you recommend people here to approach people? lmao retard

add + autism here
i got no clue man
the older i get, 34 now, the more autistic i get
but i feel like im giving more of a fuck about being saying doing autistic shit too

trying to ohp heavy rn

>>76230362
Unironially had the best relationship with a girl that i am 100 sure had the tism like me
Theres some werid quirks i do subconsciously which has gtten girls to say "what /why are you doing this"

autism is good it means you can experience joy beyond what normies can fathom

>>76230351 (OP)
Keep calm, stay positive and hate the feds.

>>76257039
This

I believe autism gives you the ability to view things from a lot more angles than normies do

>>76256505
Your advice is akin to "i found a scratch card on the ground and i won a million dollars from it. Therefore all you poor people need to spend all your money on scratch cards"

>>76257039
I don't know about that

>>76256505
congrats anon
it's good to see some success stories and not people stewing in negativity

>Thread was created eight days ago
>Still up

/fit/ is dead.

>>76256865
>so you would pretty much be a loser if not a guy went up and talked to you and you recommend people here to approach people? lmao retard

Yeah, he's not a loser because he successfully connected with others.
The retard is you.

>>76261210
If at any point the bodybuilding coach guy that approached that anon didn't donate his social capital to him, he would most likely still be a khhv virgin incel like the rest of us. Realise how the onus was on the coach guy every single time. HE approached anon, HE asked him to coach him at the gym, HE introduced him to chicks he knew. Like the guy above me said, his story is like saying "Elon Musk came up to me and gave me a million dollars unprompted while i was walking in the park, it's so easy to get rich! Just go outside :)"

>>76261246
this just get lucky bro! lmao

>>76261210
are you some drooling retard or just plain fucking stupid? this guy obviously saw some sad shite and wanted to do him a huge favor. you think he successfully connected with some personal trainer chad by having social anxiety? what could he have possibly offered that guy? low self esteem and anxiety? fucking clown go kys

>>76261181
The Ten Day Blackout convinced a lot of people to go elsewhere

>>76261564
Where is this "elsewhere"

>>76232319
They are called compulsory thoughts because you don't choose to have them. Well, no one chooses their thoughts and feelings, so maybe the distinction is that the thoughts you can't choose feel bad for most part.

>>76233761
You realize most people just walk into circles with their friends and their friends and maybe hang in the sidelines and get to live happy lives without really self-improving or playing sociopathic games.

>>76230351 (OP)
Feeling lonely means you're a closet fag.

>>76233566
No one is going to be willing to assimilate into a stuff like this and I have tried just forgetting everything I used to know or changing myself into a different person and all I get is a made up serial killer personality who never feels helpless or other bad feelings but makes others feels them.

>>76235735
But how many have used them or use them every now and then? It's not the whole picture if you say that 25% of women at any given time are on those apps.

>>76236102
Facing the traumas or failures or shortcomings head on doesn't help. You never forget them or the lessons.

>>76261757
Yeah, i'm not retarded, i know why i am the way i am, i did my fair share of introspection. And i read the book the guy recommended. You know what the groundbreaking psychological advice is? "If you want to stop feeling unwanted and miserable, you need to get a group of people that support you and accept you as you are, preferably close friends or a significant other". Wow no shit nigger.

>>76256505
just win the lotto bro!

>>76230351 (OP)
>How to lift the autism and loneliness away?
being alone is great. you just have to learn to enjoy life as it comes to you. im in my late 30s. im a virgin and i've come to terms that im no one's cup of tea. im very satisfied that im ever improving on dressing better, being better groomed, smelling better, reading more. etc. i've been on several first dates. my face/personality card is always declined but im happy i tried. romantic life is a luck thing.

>>76230541
kek

>>76230351 (OP)
>ended up making irl friends
>went broke and stayed at home more
>irl friends start shitting on you despite you telling them about the circumstances
>ended up alone again and just focus on lifting
>cycle repeated
I give up on lifting the loneliness away.
I just make shallow acquaintances nowadays for my career, but at least, you don't feel terrible when they stab you in the back

>>76261614
Not here.

>>76230351 (OP)
When it comes to loneliness there are two paths. There is the path of cope, and the path of struggle. Philosophically speaking, these correspond to the concepts of "being" vs "becoming". Neither path is superior, but by understanding them you can gain a higher-level perspective, increasing your awareness and freedom.

The path of cope: Within every civilization some subset of humans have always lived alone. Monks. Writers. Travelers. There is no shame in being alone. There is nothing you have to prove. It may in fact be your idea about what you should be that is the cause of your pain.

The path of struggle: Your desire for intimacy stems from real human needs which are not being met. Nothing in this life is free. If you ignore the feelings, you will only continue to suffer. The only way forward to risk trying, risk discomfort, and attempt to get your needs met.

The path of cope can lack stability. For a while, may feel things are fine, but then see a beautiful woman and realize you have been lying to yourself and you really do want more from life. There is an incompleteness to the ban-aids. You may numb the feelings, but never overcome them. They persist and the balance you are left with is painful.

The path of struggle has a different problem. The issue is that it leads nowhere. Life must be lived for its own sake. If you get the prize, all you discover is that it does not ultimately satisfy you. The best part of getting a girlfriend is not so much a positive experience, but a lack of a negative. During the time in my own life when I had a girlfriend, I noticed the feelings of sexual lust and craving were gone but were replaced by new needs, such as how to deal with her emotions, how to provide stability, how to ensure I earn enough for our future.

Those I know who are successful with woman are continually struggling, going through drama, searching for something to fill themselves.

There is no final solution. Meaning is the feeling of movement.

>>76263128
cont.

By "movement", I mean the transition from one place in life to another. As humans always finds ourselves as some specific thing, operating withing some specific horizon for action, including our feelings, our jobs, and how we see ourselves and world.

You cannot not be in some place. But what you can do is move from one place to another. But the new place is you are at, cannot and will never be ontologically "superior", however, the act of moving from one place to another, to the extent it follows from your own willful decision to move, does, temporarily, give you the thrill and feeling of life. In truth, this is what life is. Movement. Flow. Vitality. There is a weight is on the ground, you life it up, and move it somewhere else. Energy is flowing.

The question then is not to find the best possible place to be and then sit there, but rather, how to most beautifully and artfully navigate the contrast between cope and struggle.

This is art and sports and everything beautiful in this world teaches us. Beauty is doing the life-process with grace. As a surfer rides the wive, balancing both sides, not moving too fast, but neither stagnating and falling off the board.

The question of how to not be lonely is better framed as how to more artfully live your life, how to expand your awareness so you see more options to choose from, so that the deepest truest part of you, can, if it chooses, to have the sense of movement from one place to another, and done so at the tempo, in the right way, to best experience yourself and the process of being you.

The conclusion is that by being aware of the two paths and the tension between them, you gain freedom, because you see these two responses not as who you are, but as possible mode of response.