Why Can’t You Retards Bake Edition

Your friendly hangout to discuss anything that shreds your natty card.

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>>76192281

>stronger than primo mg to mg
>cheap as fuck
>little to no negative sides that aren't easily controlled with ancillaries
>used and beloved by almost every olympia contender since its use was popularized
>shat on by pseudointellectuals and redditors online
Say its name, /fraud/

>>76235685
Deca is king

>>76235945
shit just made me swollen af and my joints hurt like crazy which is weird because thats the exact opposite of what it should do

Fuck it we ball

>>76235764
Why are you obsessed with Chinese dicks? They're small

roiding is the best thing ever
this 16yo looks amazing for only a test and anavar cycle

any real reason to get retatrutide instead of tirz if im already 13% bf and just have like 8 lb left to lose? Its still in research and a bit more expensive so I rather just go with something more researched and understood

god 100mg viagra pre workout is a fucking game changer. Gives me an actual pump and post gym high like im on orals even though im on a cruise dose of test

>>76237704
he has natural GH and youth on his side.

I wonder how the test affects his dick size because he is still in puberty...

And how the steroids affect his brain development.

>>76237704
Hes like 155 tops, got a long road ahead of him.

Thoughts on getting juiced if I have heart palpitations all the time?

>>76235577 (OP)

Good evening Retards,
Anyone have experience with clen? Might be prescribed it (actually) for muscle wasting. I already lift but of course it's baby bitch weight (muscle wasting). From the little bit i've researched it seems to be more muscle-sparing rather than making you yuge as fuck, which checks out with the prescription plan.
Anyone got insight on results / sides?

Just aerated my needle before injecting in to my thigh in an area that I injected before last week, and a white liquid came back up in to the needle that I assume is probably puss. I injected in to the area anyway without any issue.

Should I be worried?

>>76237961
>>76237704
His brain is fucked, particularly risk assessment, decision making and of course hormone regulation will never be normal
Height probably won't be much beyond what he has now, so he's giving up maybe 4 inches of height if he's unlucky
Even your personality changes
Dick probably unchanged, balls may be permanently smaller though since he's preemptively shutting them down
Hgh causes dick growth in kids with growth hormone deficiency but no real evidence that it does anything if you are normal
TLDR Never roid before 25, maybe hgh but never test/anabolics
bro is cooked, hope he's planning on a lifetime blast and cruise strategy

>>76238664
You didn't like this answer? >>76231593

>>76237841
Retatrutide is better for fat loss and tirz suppresses appetite better
So it's easier to eat thru retatrutide but it will use fat stores for energy more efficiently than tirz
Depends on your willpower and how good your dieting is already on which is better

>>76238715
Sorry only just saw it! Following from that answer, just a couple of questions:

I get these symptoms (redness, pain (PIP?), swelling) pretty much every time I inject, although I've never had puss come back up the needle before, is it normal to regularly get these symptoms and is the puss a sign that something is worse this time? (the previous injection referenced in my original uestion was two days ago and nothing is particularly bad as of yet)

Also, if there is an infection, does that mean the gear wont be absorbed as much?

>>76238828
Redness, swelling, and PIP every shot isn’t normal, your gear might be dirty, high in BA, or your injection technique sucks (shallow, same site too often, no rotation, etc). Pus coming back = likely infection/abscess forming. Reinjecting into that spot was a bad idea.
If it gets redder, hotter, or more painful, or you get feverish, go get antibiotics before it turns into a full-blown abscess.
Infections can mess with absorption, inflamed tissue won’t absorb oil properly, so you might not get full effect from the shot.
Warm your gear, inject slow and deep, rotate sites.

>>76238865
>Infections can mess with absorption, inflamed tissue won’t absorb oil properly, so you might not get full effect from the shot.

How bad will the impact be? What exactly will happen to the oil that isnt absorbed?

>>76236788
dude is beyond cringe spamming this nonsense all the time. its either some edgy tick (gay cringe) or he thinks hes in a shounen anime and has a catch phrase (gay cringe)

>>76237841
Use sema until it doesnt work. Then use tirz until it doesn't work. Then use reta. Each has a little something extra, and can push past a lull

>>76238865
to add to anon, maybe refilter your shit. sounds sketchy

>>76238898
There's no telling exactly the impact, it'll be slower most likely

>>76239212
Ah ok, so the gear won't be wasted it will just be absorbed slower?

>>76239028
I only use highly reputable brands in my country (UK) and it's always been like this across several different major brands that I've used over the years. It doesn't happen every time but it happens now and then, especially when I inject a large amount or in to the same wider area multiple times, but sometimes it's also random. I've never had any symptoms of infection beyond this though so idk if it's just inflammation or what.

How do you deal with heat during the summer? I'm hot as fuck all the time

>>76239282
turn on the fucking air conditioner, retard

>>76239282
On 400mg dnp daily in a hot area... honestly with modern air conditioning it is bad. Worst part is huffing and puffing even when sitting because all the extra oxygen you require and co2 you release.

You must be fat if the heat is an issue while not on

>>76235577 (OP)
anyone using sarms? i got s4 and im so horny popping boners constantly just 4 days in.. hope i didnt get burned with cialis instead

>>76238705
arnold roided from age 14 so you are retarded.

>>76239229
is it always the same base oil? are you allergic to that?

How much of a change in energy did you guys notice when starting T?
I'm seriously considering hopping on a low dose of test, like 250mg a week, to have an improvement in my energy levels. I'm 21, have been working out and eating healthy consistently, work a desk job, but every time I come home I 'don't have any energy left to do the things that I want to do. Any advice?

>>76239474
You know nothing about roiding and nothing about arnold

>>76240681
Sounds like a calorie and sleep deficit

>>76240681
Testosterone isnt a stimulant.
What are you going to blame your shitty life problems on when you find out that taking testosterone did nothing to fix it?

I’m taking 200mg Test Cyp due to diagnosed low T. Anything I can do to give a boost to the effect?

>>76240985
Tbh you shouldn’t take test because you are going to get cystic acne in 3 month, the kind of acne that appears under your skin and turn into permanent scars
Accurate isn’t a miracle drug and won’t fix you, you ve been warned ânon, stay safe and natty

>>76239470
Im sorry anon but s4 might turn you blind no joke
Stay away from sarms, go for real steroid instead

>>76239474
Arnold was natty, he only took show enhancement drugs that aren’t considered a steroid like créatine you people are just jelly that he succeeded while natty , top genetic top charisma rich parents , he still had to work hard and didn’t have it easy !!

help bros, how do you handle acne on dht compounds?

>>76241255
please stop with your acne
its the 3rd thread that you spam us with your shitty larp
no you wont get acne from dht compound alone, it might worsen a bit if you already have some but it wont create if you wash properly and change your sheet and dont stay all day in your sweat
also smoking tobacco reduce acne

>>76240985
Trenbolone
Only drug that doesn't give cystic acne, it actually prevents it
Good with trt

>>76240362
I'm pretty sure it's various types of base oil as I've used 4 major brands over the years, although admittedly I've never checked, but the PIP has varied wildly so I would assume they're different

>>76239212
Can u get back to me on the question about absorption bro because you've got me worried now

>>76241169
what are you talking about faggot?
I've been blasting test for years and never got a single pimple

>>76241714
Hard to say, most likely it'll be a bit slower

>>76241825
Test causes permanent cystic acne, everyone knows that

>want to hop on Deca
>using Dutasteride so I can't
Life is pain

>>76240681
>> mentally fatigues self at work
>> physically fatigues self at gym
>> doesn't jealously guard leisure time, fast tracking burnout
y am i tired bros?

Hey fraud, I crashed my e2 and spiked cortisol so high that I want to die
How's your month been?

>>76242830
i haven't been to the gym in two months because i'm a whiney bitch. eating less though, and the test + tren cruise is trimming me down a bit. sat all day today though, and my hips are killing me. feck

>>76242146
It literally doesn’t matter. How much nandrolone do you think is actually being 5-alpha reduced? Hint: it’s not enough to influence hairloss in any significant way.

>>76241961
Just following from this again, how worried should I be if there is redness, a bit of tenderness, swelling, slight fever, but not so much in the way of pain? It's been two days since the injection in question (the one I referenced in my original post is a previous one)

>>76241180
>post in /fraud/
>scared of temporary colour tints that go away in 5 hours
How the fuck are you here, you faggoted little baby? ahhahah

gonna roid brb

>>76242913
Wow it's almost like everyone who posts about tren doesn't actually lift.

>>76243392
You may have a fucking infection get checked out, fever is not good

>>76243392
Your dead

Hey bros, I’ve been cruising on 200 mg/wk of test for about a year now, and gotten really good results. I was already dialed in on routine and diet for years, so it’s been smooth sailing. I happen to have easy access to anavar, but what I’m really looking to do is put on mass—not necessarily cut. Is anavar still a potential option?

i ve been wanting to hop back on test e for like a 6 months, i wanted to add a compound like EQ. my problem is that i still have left-over acne from my previous cycle and i am on accutane. i read that some people it helped their acne which is my only worry, but chatgpt is heavilly suggesting that i shouldnt combine them for health reason, but i know that some people claim to take accutane and test/steroid at the same time and it helps them. should i listen to chatgpt?

>>76243964
It's true :( i need to go back.

>>76244284
>will it works to add mass
Yes. Why wouldn't it?

>is it the best use for anavar
Lol no

>is it more expensive than test, hits your lipids harder, and builds less mass than test
Yes

If you want to put on mass up your test and eat more. If you had your heart set on trying anavar, do it anyway. It's not the best use, but the sky won't fall. Just don't tank your e2.

Meso got me into filtering my gear, now my acne is getting better. Niggers selling dirty gear

>>76244695
That sucks, weird that's how it works though
Seems like it would just cause extra pip or infection and not something that widespread and systemic
But sure enough ppl get all sorts of nasty sides from poorly made ugl stuff

>>76244730
haven't there been a lot of various reports of underdosed/impure gear?

>>76244695
how do you filter gear

>>76244784
Yeah or straight up a different compound than it's supposed to be

Anyone else get horrific anxiety and insomnia from hcg? I got prescribed 1000 ius per week with my test and a few weeks in started to get jitters, paranoia, anxiety, insane insomnia to the point where i needed to slam ambien.

Before you start, i too thought it's E2 related, i took my adex and had my bloods done and everything was normal yet i was still feeling like shit.

I quit hcg nearly a week ago (2 half lives of elimination by now) and i feel like i am coming back to life but now I am worried about my balls, fertility etc

If hcg gives me such massive anxiety how will I be able to come off test? Should i reintroduce hcg after it clears out but at much smaller doses (maybe 200 ius per week) to see how i feel and adjust to it? Cheers for any advice.

Anyone else lose a fuckload of motivation to train while cutting? I recently went down to a cruise and started cutting and honestly I don't have a lot longer to cut, maybe another 4 weeks at max - but I just can't be fucked to train. It's like what's the point, I'm gonna be weaker, not gonna be gaining shit, cruise dose sparing a lot of muscle anyway, etc. Obviously I willpower through it but goddamn it sucks. At least when I was natty I didn't have the "meh, anything I lose I'll gain back a couple weeks into my next blast anyway" thoughts in my head.

>>76244908
i think ai's don't touch the path hcg takes

>>76245739
Stimulants and sugars are your answer

Replace the fats in your diet with simple carbs, treat caffeine and nicotine as liquid motivation

>>76235577 (OP)
Does sema just decrease appetite or does it actually change tdee too

Thought I was gonna fucking die today bros.
Not sure if I nicked a vein in my quad or injected into my vein or whatever but as I was injecting I got extremely lightheaded and cold sweats, pulled the needle out and a lot of blood + oil came out. I laid down, got severe chest tightness, could hardly breathe and I was confused as shit. I was getting sleepy but fought the urge to fall sleep cause I thought I was gonna die.

I think I'm just gonna split my dose and inject into my delts instead cause fuck that was one of the scariest moments of my life.

>>76246534
here's another guy who cant be bothered to do the slightest bit of research

>>76245739
Seeing weekly changes as you lose bf is great motivator for me.
Plus I drop my volume quit a bit. I'm just trying to prevent muscle loss is all and as you said not much energy in a deficit. So workouts are actually kind of fun and easy. Just dont dwell on the strength loss. Its only temporary.

>>76244695
Meso is gone for good, no need to make up bullshit about them any more.

>>76244784
No. But there were floaters early on which were determined to be filter media that broke free due the suction. The gear wasn't dirty just as long as you were careful not to suck the filter strand into your syringe

>>76246654
Were you injecting tren or something?

>>76235577 (OP)
Any endurance PED suggestions? And not Cardarine, wasn't a fan.
Having trouble sourcing ITPP but i'm interested in trying it- anybody have any experience with it?

>>76237841
i've heard reta has less side effects

>>76246654
Sounds like you just had a panic attack bro. If you had injected in to a vein you would taste oil in your mouth and get a really bad cough.

>>76246841
test prop + npp

>>76246996
Yeah hopefully that was it but it's my 2nd cycle and I've never had it happen before, I've gotten lightheaded once during injecting but the chest tightness I got this time was making me legit feel like I was going to die. I've just never had that much blood come out either.

When it was happening I looked up the symptoms on the internet and it said "pulmonary oil embolism" but yeah I didn't get the coughing or taste so I thought it was probably something else, probably just hit a small blood vessel or something

>>76247081
How long did these symptoms last? How long ago was it that you injected? If you weren't coughing then you 100% did not get oil in to your bloodstream.

>>76246842
EQ, tbol, L-Carnitine
All pretty mild, but can have you feeling like you can go all day dosed right

I recently got my testosterone tested and the result was low, but not low enough to get help from doctors. So i'm planning on starting my own trt soon.

/fraud/bros be 100% honest, will roids get me a gf? I have nothing to lose I'm on the verge of killing myself anyways

>>76247290
Nah, maybe a boyfriend though

Which one of you did this?

>>76247313
Not sure I want to elaborate too much but roids have definitely changed me sexually, especially when I get particularly deprived or horny

>>76247327
Explain. You're anonymous.

>>76246825
Ah shitty. Damn ugl need to step up their fuckin game

>>76247436
what do expect from a $6 vial of test?
Does it give you a low opinion of online illegal drug dealers or something?

>>76246806
Make me faggot. Google ways it effects bmr but I'm wondering how much has it for the people here.

>>76247486
Oh haha! I'm a dumbass. I was stuck on domestics. Thaaaaaat makes more sense

>>76247364
All kinds of degenerate stuff. Not homosexual but stuff like extreme submission and also borderline paedophilia.

>>76247540
Alot of "domestics" just bought bulk from QSC, stuck their own labels on it and marked it up 1234567%

>>76247575
ouch.... fuckin greedy degens

>>76237704
why does his "test" look more oxidised than tren usually does?

Gf won't let me pin for mental health and liver damage
Should I run anavar? What can convince her bros?

>>76247932
>liver damage

Pinning doesn't cause liver damage, only orals do

>>76247932
>gf won't let me
/fraud/, laugh at this low T faggot

>>76247955
>Pinning doesn't cause liver damage

Are you aware that your liver needs to produce the enzymes necessary to cleave the adduct (be it cypionate enanthate or whatnot) which will put stress on it? It's definitely nowhere near as bad as orals but there is some liver stress

Take your tudca and milk thistle people

>>76247178
Tried EQ in the past and did a 1:1 ratio. Guess that was pretty retarded because I must've dried out my joints and ended up tearing a hip adductor.
Also I only did 200 test / 200 EQ and didn't feel much from it so I am wondering If i didn't dose enough.
I am an athlete so i've always been told to keep doses low.

>>76247932
Liver damage is minimal with NAC and TUDCA on most gear
Real issue is blood lipids for me, even with diet and supplements they are always off
Also mental health can go either way on them
Whatever the negatives, that is why high doses are cycled instead of run year round and other drugs used to mitigate them during, if needed

>>76248180
You definitely crashed your e2 at 1:1 then, were you taking anything else or just test and EQ?
200 is low for the cardio benefit, probably anything under 350 you won't notice
Therein likes the problem if you want low dosages, you need to run 5:4 (test:EQ) ratio to be conservative with e2 management
No AI required if you can dial in the dose correctly though

>>76248180
>I am an athlete so i've always been told to keep doses low.

top kek, where's the anon with low dosage meme pic

I got some micronized pregnenolone powder to help me sleep on cycle, but apparently you're not supposed to swallow it but rather keep it under your tongue so it bypasses first pass liver metabolism which kills it by turning into into preg sulfate

How do you take a powder sublingually? Do you just sprinkle some under your tongue or are you meant to dissolve it in 40 proof and keep that under your tongue?

EU domestic bros, are all of these good, does it matter which one I choose?

https://pastebin.com/Asx3kQRH

>>76249311
Ye Hilma is pretty good i think i think

>>76249440
Ummm you're not supposed to type it the tranny jannies will get angry that's why I used pastebin

>>76249188
Can't believe it hasn't been posted yet
Did all the oral cycle zoomettes fuck off finally?

How should i dose dbol if i use it to kickstart a test cycle ?
I wanted to do a 12/16 week of 500mg/wk, but since i've got plenty of money rn i can add a little fantasy in it
>>76249311
Dri*da is good, the clen there is pretty good but until 6/24 they only take crypto

Unironically how much gear would one have to take to get this big?
What do you guys think his stack is?

>>76250211
60 grams of superior genetics weekly for life, 20+ hours a week in the gym, 350g+ clean protein ed, then a whole bunch of other shit on top of that

If I get a mild infection from injecting (nothing too serious, just a bit of swelling, redness, tenderness, and mild feverish symptoms), how concerned should I be? Is this the kind of thing that will clear up by itself in a few days or should I seek medical attention?

>>76248200
No I was only doing that 1:1,EQ & test cyp- took the advice of a buddy of mine and did little research lol. The injury was brutal and took about a year to fully recover.
So for example 5:4 ratio for 350 eq would be
450test?

>>76249188
Yeah man I know it sounds crazy but more performance enhancing drugs doesn't always mean better performance.
I do a sport that relies a lot on your endurance- If you are filled with water retention / have BP issues along with a very elevated RHR your stamina goes out the window.

>>76250211
Hey anon, don't aspire to look like that guy he looks fucking retarded.

>>76250211
Eat a lot, train a lot. Run over 700mg of test, some tren and masteron. Don't forget the insulin and hgh.

>>76250299
Pro cyclist athlete greg here, just use Turkesterone especially made for athletes like us. use code greg

>>76250304
he looks based compared to all the fake natties that are smaller than him

Is Masteron the Primo of poorfags?

>>76250328
ok nigger brain.

Is too much HCG bad? Assuming you control e2 with AI and don't care about money.

The goal is to have huge semen loads!

PG makes me feel sick

>>76250387
Its just as expensive now, imo mast is better.

>>76250560
hcg monotherapy administers 3000iu ed. hcg just gets you more semen though, so not really larger loads since it accounts for a tiny percentage of the total volume. pygeum + stinging nettle root extract + saw palmetto will get that prostatic fluid flowin, which may get you what you seek.

Not asking for a source, but how do you even find one
Pretty easy to find peptide shit off glp1forum but not sure how to find hgh

>>76250865
Nvm got it. Thanks for the DM kind sirs

>>76244284
Like other anon said, you could run Var, but my philosophy is that those orals are taken for their unique mental or cosmetic effect. Or for a short phase were tou really destroy your muscles, like the capstone of a bulk 4-8wks. But For just putting on mass on a months long bulk, you want to stack the most androgens receptor stimulus you can. This is done by stacking mg of the injectable steroids, both on a cost basis and longevity, as orals for the same mg are much more liver toxic and taxing on the body in general.

Stacking your choice of Test/nand/eq/mast/tren/primo is your best best. Tren defintelt puts on at least 2x more muscle per mg compared to the others, but the rest have similar potency. There's other injectables too like ment and dhb, but they're cost efficiency is poor and their testing is limited the aforementioned steroids are tried and true. >>76244695
>Retards still cant grasp that acne is an androgenic side effect directly caused by the androgen receptors in your skin beinf stimulated
Bunk gear might cause an abcess or intense pain AT THE SITE OF INJECTION, but cystic acne associated witb gear is 100% not from your gear quality. Fucking lol

>>76250865
meso rx

>>76250802
Any side effects to taking those? They're for enlarged prostate right? What if my body gets used to them and then when I stop I get enlarged prostate or something

>>76250560
I didn't notice any sides when on hCG other than water retention and not looking as lean because of it. Balls were full and loads were good though.

>reading this thread as a medfag

Lmao holy shit. I really hope it’s AI, /fraud/ was nowhere near this retarded last time I lurked a year ago

>>76251287
i don't recall, but i think you're good. and it may help prevent prostate issues

>>76235577 (OP)
I'm 35 and considering a low test cycle now that I've got kids

Where should I start anons? I'm based in the uk

>>76252215

>>76251287
Lecithin adds a lot of volume. Pygeum increases precum production for some reason. If you take too much pygeum at once it can feel like you have to pee AFTER you already emptied the tank, but nothing comes out save for a few dribbles after leaning over the toilet for a few minutes. I don't know why, its like a prostate spasm and is very uncomfortable.

I take saw palmetto to cut down my acne. Some people claim saw palmetto is like ultra low dose fin but without the sides.
YMMV on all of this shit, herbal supplements aren't a pure concentration of a single chemical, they have all kinds of other stuff in them and the results can vary significantly depending on the brand, and even the specific product within a brand.
Personal example: I was buying the cheaper (health food) store-brand black seed oil for a while but didn't feel much, then I noticed it didn't say how much TQ was in it. After experimenting, I had to take 3x as much as was normally recc'd to get much out of it. I bought the name-brand one on their shelf with the most and the flavor is both extremely strong and it feels like I can use far less.

>>76253023
>they have all kinds of other stuff in them
By this I mean, they are plants. Plants are living things, they take in what they can and have seasonal changes and different parts of the plant have different shit. Some extracts are made using only the best quality bits, others use the dust and scraps from sorting.
Think of it like how good tea is made from hand-picked whole leaves while the supermarket teabag crap (which has plastic fibers in the bags) is made from dust, and both taste very different.

>>76252215
BAD IDEA
you are gonna get cystic acne 100% certain and you will stop lifting all togethere and become a pizza and only fatties will want you

Everyone in this thread now has cystic acne
Say goodbye to your gains and social life

>>76247565
Jeez anon. Might wanna get that checked out

>>76253452
You havent even gotten the "roidtranny" meme to take off and now you're trying to push this cystic acne nonsense.
I mean years of "roidtranny" posts and threads and nobody in the world uses that world except natty dyel 4chan incels on /fit/

>>76254837
>run 1-2g total of various gear
>never had the first pimple
/fraud/, we just can't stop winning at life

ive had on and off knee pain for a decade (since i got hit by a car) and its really starting to piss me off now
will the tb500/bpc mix do anything to help it? is there anything else that might?

Only had light acne on trt but rarely on blasts. Not sure why

can i trust chatgpt to tell me how to do a test cycle

Bloods are coming in. Last check was the end of my cycle in Feb.
>HDL improved from 39 to 57 (primo tanked it)
>LDL back under 100
>hematocrit jumped 3 points to 53. Red cross is giving out Amazon gift cards so time to donate.
>prolactin went from 8 to 11. I was looking through past bloods. My prolactin always drops on cycle.

Still waiting on PSA. It was high during my on cycle test, but I also dumped two loads in the wife the night before. This time I abstained

>>76242146
If you’re on dut just megadose with TRT

>>76253099
>>76253452
>>76255247

can i use chatgpt to ask for a cycle that will prevent cystic acne? is that what prof like jeff nipard, jeff seid and mike isratel do?

Sup /fraud/, my situation is as follows;
>be me
>weak and submissive, a sensitive boy my whole life
>be insecure about my appearance as I look really young for my age
>start lifting at age 20
>make good gainzz and as a result confidence goes up a little
>ff to 24yo me, decent physique but still feel and look like just a boy
>no facial hair, no body odour, only a small amount of body hair
>could pass as 16yo if it wasn’t for the muscle mass
>decide to finally do something about it
>enclomiphene 12.5mg EOD and mesterolone 50mg daily
>start to notice changes as weeks pass, finally feel like a bit of a man, not gigachad but still
>courage to make decisions and motivation to pursue goals appears
I’m decided on not going back. I most likely have some DHT related issue but without bloodwork it’s just guessing. My options are continuing enclo and mesterolone
>no negative effects on fertility
>no information on long term usage
>expensive
Or starting TRT
>decades of real world experience and information
>have to play with different ester lengths for vacations etc.
>possible fertility issues as I want to have children in the future
Which option is less retarded and why?

>>76255778
what is cystic be any chance? because those need derm attention asap to avoid becoming permanent scars

>>76256724
uhhhh sounds like you're the perfect candidate for blast and cruise, my dude. you're 25+ now, yeah? 750mg test a week for 24 weeks, then 250 a week for 24 weeks. Next 750mg test + something for 24 weeks, and on and on. wont be feeling boyish by year four, guaranteed

>>76256724
>weak and submissive, a sensitive boy my whole life
roids wont fix this.
You'll still be a weak submissive bitch but with slightly bigger muscles

>>76256906
I’m 25 now. Not looking to blast & cruise but more of a TRT dose if I end up going the exogenous testosterone route. My only concern really is the fertility aspect.
>>76257288
>roids wont fix this
But they already did so far. Enclomiphene and mesterolone definitely made a big difference on my well being. Mentally I feel like what I expect a normally functioning male to feel like. I’m indifferent to the anabolic aspect of frauding as I’m mostly in for the same reasons people actually get prescribed TRT.

>>76256724
Blast and cruise + mesterolone ftw

How do you tell the difference between anxiety from crashed e2 and anxiety from too much e2? Is it that when you've too much e2 you become catty and whiny and too little e2 means you get jitters, insomnia and impending doom?

I am currently leaning towards the latter maybe I need to stopping popping adex like candy

>>76258039
Look at other potential sides, like bloating

>>76258046
No bloating, i feel like my joints are grinding more than usual but i might be overthinking it

if you take dbol and it immediately reverses all the anxiety then you crashed your e2

>>76257423
well do a high trt then. if you've been making gains, low test probably aint the issue. trt will shut down natural production just to replace it, which is dumb. give yourself a little boost at least 350mg/week might get you above the normal range depending on how your just responds, but you really need to get bloodwork done. if you live in the us, use discountedlabs dot coom to save a few bucks. you can self direct labs, and not use insurance, if you're paranoid about results popping up in some unwanted place. and don't worry about fertility. hop off for a few months, and you'll be fine. or take 250iu hcg two or three times a week

>>76258074
My hips and knees were super dry and creaky when my e2 was low, plus low energy and high apathy usually injury prone too
High e2 I get bloating in face hands feet, emotionally over the top and weepy then spicy nips eventually
This is the most important thing with gear to figure out and fine tune imo

>>76256413
honestly, yes.

>>76258039
Anon you should have figured out your high estrogen symptoms your first cycle. Don't tell me you hopped on an AI without showing any symptoms...

>>76258908
Pretty sure it will recommend trt unless it's carefully worded

I just found out I can subq inject any steroid. Which radically adjusts my opinion every day type stuff. What's the best big boy starter compound? Tren? Primo? I'm on trt and they've finally let me do my own thing without hawking my bloodwork.

>>76258501
I could and probably should get bloodwork done, you are right. However like I said I'm already on enclo and mesterolone so the results wouldn't reflect my natural hormone levels. Also my mind is set on continuing my current plan or going TRT route so the results would only give me a baseline where I'm at currently and not an answer to the question whether to start or not. Would 350mg/week be sustainable for let's say a year to start with and with what ester should I go for?

hi im the guy that posted about taking 24ius of gh daily
i ended up getting gyno (it was minor, but there were lumps under my nipples, and they were very tender) 2 days after i ran out. i was going to post about it but i wasnt bothered
yesterday though my nipples went back to normal so now i am going to post about it
thanks for reading my last blogpost

>>76259173
/r/steroids/wiki/
Read that
First cycle recommendations are what you are probably most interested in
You can do trt or 350 or whatever you saw on youtube or chatgpt recommended to you but there's downsides to hanging out in that potential gray area of test dosage

>>76259173
350 would likely put you well above the normal range. 200 is more trt'ish. Often people go lower -- 150

>>76258929
Problem is the chart says insomnia is a side of high estrogen, whereas for me it was a symptom of low estrogen as it was the anxiety and heart racing that kept me up all night – so i thought since i have insomnia that means i must have high estrogen so i just kept taking more AI and getting more anxiety and sleeplessness until i ended up on trazadone

>>76259552
That chart is obselete, there's a reason why reddit niggers stopped posting it.
Insomnia can be a side effect of high e2 and low e2. Night sweats can be a sign of low e2 and high e2.
Here's the basic if you want to know you have high e2:
spicy nips
water retention
moon face
acne
bitchiness

low e2:
bones cracking
painful joints
dry skin
No strength
suicidal thoughts

>>76259552
Never go by any symptoms that can potentially just be psychosomatic. Come off the AI and wait until you have a physical symptom

>>76258986
I use it as my steroid advisor pretty frequently.
If you plug in your exact goals it will recommend beyond trt doses.
It also gives more comprehensive explanations on your blood reports then a doctor it's pretty wild and helpful.

>>76259950
It will recommend AI on trt and cycles that will 100% crash e2
It's handy but makes a ton of mistakes
It will fail at basic math sometimes too, so verify dosages if you ask it injection volume questions
Be careful anon

if my hair can handle primo well should I try Mast or is that harsher

>>76260215
Thanks man, I am careful and you aren't wrong- sometimes it will give misguided advice and you have to steer it in the right direction.
It typically will correct itself and then give you pretty good notes.