Floorsleeping chads only are allowed in this thread

>No mattress
>No pillow
>Only using hands to eat
>No toilet paper, just water

Am I becoming a saar?

>>76245548
yeah, all thats left is to start pooping on the streets and raping white women

Hurts my lower back too much

>>76245543 (OP)
I've been thinking about doing this. Japanese style. Just a very thin futon.

wish my rental didnt have gross carpet. its not even shag it's like the carpet that would be in an office building

>>76245548
As long as you use a bidet with a fan then you're fine

>>76245543 (OP)
are there any benefits of doing that?

>>76246035
You do not have to give money to the bed jew.

>>76245647
It's a meme from anime that's no longer true. Japanese themselves prefer western style furniture.

>>76245543 (OP)

does using a pillow negatively affect your posture, i have a neck hump so idk what to do bros

>>76245543 (OP)
either tatami mat or yoga mat are perfect

>>76245543 (OP)
I tell people about the no bed and they laugh at me, but I keep sleeping on the floor, comfortably.

>omg babe i cant wait to get back to your place ;)
>um ...wheres the bed?
>oh i sleep on the floor because im a chad

>>76246153
damn right, infinite bitches life hack

It's probably not for everyone, but I've tried most kinds of mattresses and once I started sleeping on a tatami mat and shikibuton (thinner than a regular futon mat) my sleep was better than it's ever been. I can never see myself going back to a regular bed. Never have any back pain anymore either, so many good things about it.

>>76245543 (OP)
I find laying on the hardwood floor for 15 mins really helps alleviate any back pain.

>sleep on couch or bed
>wake up with pain throughout neck, lower back, APNEAMAXXING all night

>sleep on floor with a few blankets underneath me
>morning wood every morning
>insane dreams every night
>wake up feeling refreshed

you are literally paying to have shit sleeps.

>>76245543 (OP)
sleeping solid 7h each night and falling asleep really quick. feelsgoodman.
but lately my body itches at night and dont know whats the cause, could it be my slavic carpet underneath my bedsheet?

You need a wedge. Incline sleeping is healthier.

>>76246153
Floor sex is way better than a soft bed. More stable and shit.

>>76246153
Sex is better on the floor

>>76246080
The unfortunate truth. Sleeping on the floor is fine until you get sick and can no longer exist comfortably because you're bedridden on a 2 inch futon for 20 hours of the day.

The only reason to have a shikifuton is if you're cheap, only have guests occasionally, or don't want a big bed taking up all the space in the room during the day.

>>76245543 (OP)
oh god I shoulda known poorfag ledditors would flock to this eventually

>>76246153
If she wants your dick she won't care.It's almost as if you know nothing of bitches. Very unChad.

>>76246201
Won't the spiders be able to get into your bed more easily?

>>76246498
NGL anon that carpet looks very nice. Wool is based and you must endure the itchiness to grow spiritually

>>76246153
>omg babe i cant wait to get back to your place

the wonders you people have in your imaginations.
Lmao, who do you think I am?

>>76246609
All the spiderbitches wanna bite me on my sleeping mat

>>76245543 (OP)
If you're going to sleep on the floor, you should sleep on your side or on your stomach, slightly angled. Sleeping on your back with no support is a terrible idea.
>>76246035
It cured my lower back pain. But it relies on you being able to use your arms as pillows without them losing circulation. Doesn't work if your arms are too thin or you generally have poor circulation.

>>76246035
there was a study like 10 years ago. man went to learn from floor sleepers in some 3rd world country. he found out that every viable sleep position is actually connected to some self healing processes. people literally healed that ails naturally with just getting used to sleeping on the floor

>>76246106
lose weight. deadlift. literally all you need

>>76246617
being an incel is not based. in fact its the opposite of that. sit down

>>76245543 (OP)
I get sleep paralysis on the floor.
On bed too.
In chair also.

>>76246201
>thing
>thing in japan :O

>>76246679
this but unironically

>>76245543 (OP)
literally how do you do this? ive tried and my ass falls asleep after a few minutes if i lay flat, and if i roll onto my side my arm falls asleep.

>try to sleep
>body falls asleep
>mfw

>>76245548
>Only using hands to eat
qrd

>>76246905
Raw floor is only for gigachads, the average floor enjoyer can get by with a few blankets or a carpet

>>76245543 (OP)
Brown coded nonsense

>>76246667
who said it was based? I'm tired of fools like you inserting assumptions about reality

>>76246679
yes. you say this like it's untrue.

>>76246532
that's what pillows are for retard

>>76246908
hard mode: soup only

>>76245543 (OP)
Sleeping on the floor cured my back pain

>>76245645
That's a good thing. Means your back is moving into it's natural position and stretching out underutilized stature Muslims

>>76246532
You need to incline the whole bed
>>76246972
The pillow and wedge are too small, they twist your body. I have a slight incline and no pillow.

*crawls on your face*
how do you respond without sounding mad?

>>76246153
just have big mooscle and big penis so that itty bitty babe still gives you that sweet cloaca, bruh

>>76247175
Free protein

>>76247148
>stretching out underutilized stature Muslims
what did he mean by this?

>>76247378
His underutilised stature Muslims are being stretched out. What else would it mean? Retard.

Been sleeping on a mattress topper in the ground for 8 months, on my side. It's been the best sleep I've had in my life

>>76246658
>there was a study like 10 years ago. man went to learn from floor sleepers in some 3rd world country. he found out that every viable sleep position is actually connected to some self healing processes. people literally healed that ails naturally with just getting used to sleeping on the floor

Link, or do you remember anything that might help track the study down?

>>76247536
hmm i remember he was an old guy. went to maybe india they were brown or maybe some amazonian tribe where they sleep on the floor. he found out that each person has tru years of doing the practice almost a perfect sleeping position uniquely suited yo heal some kind of personal ailment. and it wasnt like some spiritual bullshit, helped for actual diseases. there were a LOT of photos and the guy explained in detail different poses and shit

>>76245543 (OP)
What in the thirld world is this lmao

>>76245543 (OP)
You will sleep on the floor and be happy.

>>76245543 (OP)
sleeping on your stomach (like I do) lets your (mid/low) traps relax, your shoulders fall forward and your pecs to become tight - exaggerates rounded shoulders

sleeping on your back does not really do the opposite (I cant really sleep in a "hands in the air" position)

>>76246201
Is that your room? That looks hella comfy anon 10/10

>>76245543 (OP)
Ok so in 2015 i went to war, i joined the kurdish ypg in syria. Long story short, over the course of very eventful months, i slept on the ground 99% of the time. Often with nothing but my chestrig as a pillow and a blanket. And it was great. Took two nights to get used to it, but then it was heaven. No bad dreams, no backpain, no slacking in the morning. You lie down, fall asleep, awake, feel fit, get up. The fact that i traveled a warzone in the back of a toyota hilux as part of a militia probably played its part, but still

Now, exactly 10 years later, i couldn't imagine sleeping on the ground or without a pillow. The magic is gone. But i have memories of perfect sleep.

>>76247609

>>76247536
>>76247545
I know what y'all are talking about but I can't find it. It was an old British guy I believe he had spent his youth in Africa or grown up there, and was worried we'd lose the information of traditional human ground sleeping postures since such things were becoming less common these days due to (pseudo) civilizing the tribals, so he set to record the various ways they slept. Like on your side with lower leg out to keep your penis off the ground so bugs don't bite it.

>>76245543 (OP)
Floorsleepers are severely below victim weight.

Floorchads, have you experienced any benefit in your back posture? I always wake up with my back bent out of shape from the mattress curving under my weight, it's ridicolous.

>>76246658
>>76247536
>>76247545
>>76248407
Anons I'm glad this was brought up, a very based article
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1119282/

>>76245543 (OP)
I miss my firm foam mattress... i moved back home and am on this old soft piece of shit

>>76246153
When i was 16 I lost my virginity fucking my gf on her floor because we didn't want to alert her parents with the bed creaking

Bros I get up to piss like 3-4 times a night...

I think it's the kratom.

>>76245548
saar lifestyle is actually kino

>>76245543 (OP)
another meme that mimics the life of a poor person disguised as a way to fix some issue by offering a simple solution.
i slept on the floor for 20 years cause i was poor as shit, never had great sleep. When I actually got my degree and got my first job, first thing i bought was a very expensive mattress. Slept like a fuckin baby.
I swear, only rich people could come up with dumbass memes like this

>>76249233
You fell for it

>>76246908
Are you stupid?

>>76246201
>tatami
Tell me more. Is it as hard as it looks like? How comfy sleeping is it? Did you have to get used to it?

>>76249304
What's the benefit, I mean?

>>76246035
big bed wants to keep you from being closer to Agartha.

>>76245548
>Squat pooping

>>76245548
>>76249814
Anything else that can be added to this list?

nopillow and glute gains fixed my posture

>>76248409
>t.

>>76248495
You aren’t 16 anymore and everyone has joint pain these days for some reason so that won’t work the same

used to work night shift at a hotel, nothing ever happened. some nights I would sleep on the floor in a dining room leaning against a wall. ngl I slept pretty good.

>>76249778
Don't have to give money to the spoon jew

lmao this board is full of (literal) retarded (literal) faggots. I'm back off to /sci/

>>76247175
>*crawls on your face*
just dont live in austria

>>76250414

>>76245548
thinking of getting a bidet

>>76248361
>Tenacious DD

>>76247609
god damn it my dick cannot take anymore of this today

>>76250414
/sci/ is for insufferable pseuds. So yeah, you'd probably fit right in.

>>76245543 (OP)
tried this once and my wife dropped a flower pot on my head

>>76246035
no, it's another e-daddy grift in an attempt to seem hardcore to mixed-race zoomers that grew up without a father

>>76246658
>people literally healed that ails naturally with just getting used to sleeping on the floor
do not redeem saar

>>76249233
I've always had a nice mattress didn't sleep great. But sleeping on the floor I get better sleep and wake up well rested and full of energy and my back feels better. Also backpacking and sleeping on a thin pad on hard ground always made my back feel excellent. Maybe you're just weak, poor people do tend to have lesser genetics and all.

>>76247175
Those guys are bros. They are fastidiously clean and eat worse bugs like roaches. They also don't usually like crawling on people, and our mouthparts are too small to pierce human skin.

>>76251179
>and our mouthparts

>>76248485
Pretty cool article but the writing style gives off serious crackpot vibes, lol

I'm guessing there are no randomized trials of this sort of thing?

>>76251179
I think those things were biting me in my sleep in my last apartment, but it could have been spiders or something else. I still liked them tho. They are crazy fast.

>>76251179
Okay, how many legs do you have?

>>76245543 (OP)
The realest of chads sleep in a bag outside. No artificial air - only natural air. Best case for your sinuses. You don't need a tent, just a tarp or something to keep the rain off. Plus you'll wake up naturally with the circadian rhythm and the sun.

Realistically you could live out of a Toyota Tacoma easily if you can find a place to park. The only things you need are a gym membership for lifting and showering, and a library card for internet/brainmaxxing.

Everything else is superficial

>>76249778
Are you retarded?

>>76248087
>bad dreams, backpain, slacking in the morning
Sorry, I can't relate.

i love floor sleeping. bare floor and use a blanket as a pillow. i have a pinched nerve in my back i think but i always wake up feeling fine. my mattress completely fucked my shit up and i would wake up not being able to turn my head to one side sometimes.

>>76251353
You don't have to apologize anon

>>76251313
Unfathomly based

>>76245543 (OP)
I do this in the summer to keep cool.

>>76246153
oh look, another gynoslave

>>76251313
>Get rid of the bag and sleep on the ground
>Replace gym membership with lifting stones and doing pullups from tree branches.
Now you have it.

>>76245543 (OP)
Ive had my futon for over a year now (slept on a carpet/blankets before) and ever since then ive been debating getting a tatami mat, should i do it?

>>76251161
>rich kid telling people how hard he is
>on 4chan

>>76254156
Yes for sure. I'm getting my tatami mat soon.

Sup

>>76245543 (OP)

>>76249814
>Rippetoe busts into the room and yells at you like a drill sergeant for not going below parallel

>>76246667
BUT I HAVE NOTHING TO SIT ON NOW WITHOUT MY BED

>>76249233
I'm also poor as fuck, but my mattress sucks so much that i prefer getting used to sleep on the floor. I have woke up to slight but dragging lower back pain for way too long due to this shitty bed.

https://majorsurplus.com/lite-self-inflating-air-mat

>>76254505
Have you ever heard of this thing called "chair"?
Also floor sitting is good for you just the same as floor sleeping.

>>76249814
I squat on the toilet when I shit. I have since I was a little kid.

>>76255322
Sitting toilets are unironically one of the most damaging inventions to health mankind has produced

>>76246035
No, it's pure retardation by soft cunts seeking manufactured adversity so they can feel validated as men.

>>76255344
And?

>>76255358
Asked and answered. Are you retarded?

>>76255335
elaborate. is it because i doomscroll /fit/ with a hot laptop on my thighs while the sulfur and fecal matter get on the keyboard?

>>76255366
Answer it then.

>>76255380
The body isn't designed for such activity, it is like eating upside down.

>>76255382
>are there any benefits
>No
>Answer it then.

>>76255400
If you are new to the English language, "And" is a conjunction word, it connects phrases. You said people do this to feel validated as men, so I continued the sentence with a conjunction, because that alone is nothing to be ashamed about. Unless you are some kind of self hater?

>>76255426
Yeah, your mistake was assuming I give a fuck about whether or not you feel ashamed about it. Hope that helps.

>>76255429
>Say I don't give a fuck
>Respond multiple times

>>76255434
Yeah, about whether or not you're ashamed not confused. Those are different concepts. Feels pretty straight forward to me. Hope this helps.

>>76255439
Yeah sure but my point is what is the problem with manufactured adversity. You do it every time you lift a weight in a climate controlled gym instead of a 40 pound axe to kill invading barbarians.

>>76255458
It's performative. Rather than struggling with stakes you perform a play and as aforementioned you get nothing for it unlike with weights where you work out the muscles. There's no problem I just don't respect it enough to pander to it. I hope you can make it without my approval, anon.

>>76255466
>you get nothing
Finally an actual argument after 50 messages of seethe, and of course its dead wrong. Anyway, take care anon

>>76255479
You are actually fucking retarded.
>are there any benefits of doing that?
>No
>Finally an actual argument after 50 messages of seethe
That was the argument from the start. What you've gotten from me after your mental gymnastics is that I think it's performative, but instead of latching onto that to get your jab you loop back around to the start. What a stupid fucking waste of time to soothe a moron's ego.

>>76247378
Mf complains about Muslims so much his phone autocorrects muscles to Muslims

>>76255540
Based Muslim complainer

>>76247175
What's this cunt even called?

>>76246201
nice cuck chair

>>76255789
House centipede aka tunnel snakes and they rule.

>>76256048
>speeds of up to 0.4 meters per second (1.3 ft/s)
holy shit they're fast

>>76256048
Thanks mate. Sometimes one of em is running through my place like crazy but idk what it's called

>>76245543 (OP)
wha gwan bredrin

my settis

>>76256305
This is based ma bludclat

>>76245543 (OP)
Another meme that reduces quality of something in your life by mimicing poor people. Whats next? Cold showers to mimic you can't afford hot water?

>>76256305
>abu garcia fishing pole
>YETI cooler
>Grill
>Some kind of army shit with a gun
>motorcycle helmet
>instrument(?)ukelele or sumfin
>Nespresso coffee machine
>Factorio
This is really some hardcore ascended shit

>>76256523
>reduces quality of something in your life
Wrong

>>76246201
The fuck is the chair for? Watching the people who fuck in your bed?

>>76256305
What more does a man need?

>>76246035
Anecdotally it strengthened my back and my shoulders.
It's a significantly harder task being a side sleeper on the floor.
T. Wife and I slept on floor for 2 years

>>76256568
>has bed
>no bed and sleeps on floor
>this isn't reduction in quality of life
You must be poor and coping hard here

>>76256740
I have a bed, I just choose to sleep on the floor. Don't assume things anon

>>76256755
>my floor is better than my bed
>dont assume im too poor to afford a nice mattress anon
cope

>>76256767
This is all the truth. Its not like mattresses are expensive anyway. What are you trying to prove?

>>76256784
>Its true i cant afford a mattress despite it not being expensive
>my mattress is of worse quality than the floor
>im not poor
I literally just have to watch you talk

>>76256804
I have a nice mattress, yet i prefer sleeping on the floor. No part of this is hard to understand

>>76256817
>my floor is better than my mattress
>i have a nice mattress
>but my floor is better
>no my mattress is not bad

My floor is better than my mattress. I have a nice mattress, but my floor is better. No my mattress is not bad.

My floor is my mattress
Nice mattress
But my floor is a floor
My mattress is floor

>>76256730
It promotes good posture and keeps you from moving in your sleep because any other position is really uncomfortable. Also in the morning you snooze less because you immediately want to get up.

>>76251222
Glad I'm not the only one that caught that.

>>76245543 (OP)
i can only side sleep on the floor so now i'm a couchcel

>>76256843
>Evolve for millions of years without mattresses
>Suddenly need expensive mattress for comfortable sleep

>>76257833
Same goes for heel striking when running. It's unnatural.

>>76251179
oh, okay. I guess they aren't so bad then! Thanks anon!

>>76246153
>takes a pic
>men really live like THIS?

>>76257833
>Evolves for millions of years without electricity
>Suddenly needs the internet to post on 4chan

>>76257346
Just put some layering like a sheet or some towels anon

>>76258509
>without electricity
Anon have you heard of lightning

Big fan. Slept outside on the ground for a year and a half very comfy

>>76246538
Absolutely not

>>76250089
Lmao

>>76251179
>our mouthparts

>>76251179
>our mouthparts

Moved to a new place, landlord offered me a brand new bed, took it cuz why not. Started getting lower back muscle soreness more often. Used to sleep on the floor on a yoga mat it was just soft enough to not be sore from the hardwood floor in the morning. I want to go back to floor sleeping but the new place has way way way more spiders and other types of bugs crawling on the ground. I got 2 rooms for the price of 1 though compared to my old place so it is what it is.

>>76249778
Friendly reminder that forks were seen as tools of the devil as they resemble tridents

>>76254435
You can get new blinds and pillowcases for like $20, anon.

>>76251179
>our

>>76245543 (OP)
I started floor sleeping when I decided to go monkmode to try to cure my depression, and still do it. The extra space I get in my apartment during the day is great.

>>76251313
>library card for internet/brainmaxxing
>he doesn't meditate to the point of being able to directly download information from higher beings in the aether
ngmi

>>76250475
im thinking of getting a toilet

So i tried to sleep on the floor first time ever. I put a yoga mat with a blanket on it but fuck my knees hurts so much so i couldnt lay on the floor. What am i doing wrong?

>>76262247
>knees hurt
Explain how your knees hurt from laying down not moving.

>>76262308
>Explain how your knees hurt from laying down not moving.
He obviously never squats deeper than sitting on a toilet, so the mere act of trying to bend his knees enough to sit on the ground was too much for him.

>>76262308
Thats why im asking

>>76262364
Like >>76262317 says try to stretch more for god sake wtf, like if your back hurt i would say add another few yoga mats

sleeping on a mattress is one of the few things i enjoy in life. im pretty much miserable 24/7 because of what a loser i am, and the only time im really ever happy during my waking hours is those few minutes at night when i can lie on a comfortable mattress with cool sheets and a blanket with the fan on and a nice pillow. i cant subject myself to sleeping on a floor.

>>76245548
>>76245543 (OP)
Be poor and not able to afford a bed

>>76262597
What makes you miserable anon?

>>76255344
/thread

>>76251313
>What the fuck do they eat

I have a wood floor and the few times I tried to take short naps on it to see if I could floorsleep I ended up waking up with pain in my lower back, not for the whole day, just enough to make me wake up and get up, seen some posts online about putting a pillow below that area but others say to just get used to having barely any/just a light sheet surface to sleep on

>>76246153
>>76246538
>>76258812
what the fuck is this thread?

>>76264030
Do whatever the fuck you want anon that is the true meaning of floor sleeping

I slept on a jap futon for a while and it just ended up fucking my shoulder for months after. Don't fall for this shit.

i'm sleeping on just a mattress topper right now and it fucking sucks
never had more right sided back/shoulder pain
i'm wondering if it's because i need a harder surface to sleep on

>>76265084
>He's never fucked on the floor

>>76245543 (OP)

Poverty isn't something "chad".

>>76265230
Oh is that your bedroom?

>>76265230
>Poverty isn't something
yes it is

>>76265230
wealth is usually indicative of being a sheltered little pussy who would cry if they had to live through any hardship.

>>76265293

While eating shit is a lesson learned for some, for others its a regular part of their diet because they are incapable of learning and developing any self-awareness.

Happy is the man who can learn from another's mistakes and experience is meaningless if you gain no wisdom from it. Discomfort that does not promote positive change is simply unnecessary suffering.

Having wealth is simply indicative of being wealthy, but whether one squanders it or puts it to use properly is up to them.

>>76265365
Bro thinks he's Diogenes

>>76265230
Nice bed, gandma. I'm sure it was all the rage in the Victorian era.