Thread 76248598

>dirt cheap
>versatile
>easy to prepare
>high protein w/ good bioavailability
>estrogen meme debunked
so what's catch?

>>76248598 (OP)
being a faggot dyel who spends more time arguing about meme diets on /fit/ over lifting

>>76248618
>noooo stop talking about nutrition on the fitness board

>>76248598 (OP)
>shit taste
>shit texture
It's goyfeed

>>76248598 (OP)
>estrogen meme debunked
>shitloads of daidzein and genistein
Just eat beef and eggs, faggot.

>>76248598 (OP)
Germany here, for some reason it's very expensive in regular supermarkets, but dirt cheap in Chinese stores.

>>76248686
It tastes like whatever you prepare it with. That's the point of tofu. Tastes like nothing by itself.

>>76248598 (OP)
This exists, making tofu pointless
<<<
>dirt cheap
>versatile
>easy to prepare
>high protein w/ good bioavailability
>never even had an estrogen meme

>>76248712
Way more calories than tofu.

>>76248598 (OP)
/fit/ is now a /pol/ outpost who refuse to eat it because they associate it with 'leftist vegans'. These same people almost never eat vegetables and don't know how to cook.

I enjoy cooking with it for the versatility re flavourings (plus it's cheap and you can store it longer). I also eat meat btw

>>76248714
Same or less if we are talking low fat variety and more protein anon, get on that quark pill.

>itt faggots who push an inferior product
>B-BUH U HAFTA KNO HO TO COCK IT TA MAK IT TAST GUD
I don't need to know how to make meat or cheese to taste good. It's the actual equivalent of folding a piece of junk metal for it to become actually useable as a sword. Shitty benefit-to-cost. Why would I want a tofu Katana when I can have a Greatsword steak?

>>76248725
learn to cook lad

>>76248698
>genistein
They're in the fucking food now?????

>>76248598 (OP)
>estrogen meme debunked
Wrong. It doesn’t increase blood serum estrogen but it DOES increase sensitivity to estrogen.

>>76248796
fache nyooz

>>76248779
kekd

>>76248779
>>76248711
lel mao'd

>>76248598 (OP)
>what's catch?
It has kind of a gross texture, for one thing. It has no flavor of its own, aside from a little bit of that mild veggie/beany flavor which is not very good.
Aside from that, it's okay. It's a good meat substitute if you are trying to go WFPB (not "vegan" which implies a morality and a gross obsession with packaged crap). Nothing wrong with WFPB, as long as you approach it clear headed and are prepared to cook a LOT.

>>76248598 (OP)
>estrogen meme (((debunked)))

>yo bro why don't you eat this block of estrogen real quick?
vegans lost the propaganda battle years ago
you're repulsive and nobody wants to be around you

>>76248774
Ooooo yeahhh all the lassies luv a good lady what can fry up a mean brick of tofu

Europe has fallen.

>>76248796
Of course it doesn't increase circulating estrogen, dummy. Zoy has it's own plant estrogens.

>>76248712
what is that? Want to try it.

>>76248978
It is quark/tvarog/twaróg, a kind of soft white cheese. Good for mixing with veggies for a salad, making pancake filling, putting on sandwiches with some jam, you can even mix it with rice or groats and some flavoring for a bit nasty but very effective protein/carb slop. I will often put a bit of honey on it and just raw it.

>>76248598 (OP)
How do I make it at home?

>>76248779
lol

>>76248779
Yes.

>>76248598 (OP)
Tried a bite and could not stand the texture of it, absolutely horrible

>>76248999
>involuntary celibates turning good old tvaroh into a viral food item
The internet was a mistake. Fucking westerners, first you went for my canned sardines, now it's tvaroh. Stop culturally appropriating slav shit.

>>76248999
>tvarog
Oh I ate this before, it's like a dense brick of dried out cottage cheese.
Tofu is way more palatable in large quantities.

>>76249116
>dense brick
You're supposed to spread it on bread like butter. Tastes best on sourdough bread with salt and onion.

>>76248999
When I buy kvarg it’s always like yoghurt

>>76248598 (OP)
>>estrogen meme debunked

>>76248598 (OP)
The catch is if everyone starts buying it the price will go up. Tofu is currently the cheapest high quality protein in my area and it’s not even close. Stop telling people about it

>>76249096
>muh westerners
Your entire culture derives from scandinavian settlers

I love making tofu. I've been experimenting with an animal-based version of tofu made with milk called "cheese". Great stuff. Don't even wanna eat real tofu anymore.

Thought that was feta cheese

>>76248618
So, what do you think the word argument means?

>>76248698
>porn gif
Shalom

>>76249260
>we wuz slavs n shit
The most puzzling thing is why you'd even want to larp as us. We're not exactly the creme de la creme.

>>76248712
>Dairy
>never even had an estrogen meme
Mfw

>>76248598 (OP)
It tastes like shit and the texture makes me to kill myself as soon as it touches my tongue?
And yes, I tried all kinds like the smoked version and all kinds of marinades but it's still disgusting peasant food. I rather lose fat by fasting and eat like a normal person when I'm not fasting.

>>76248598 (OP)
>>dirt cheap
unfortunately not. generally inferior to meat and eggs in both price and nutrition. peanut butter is also more expensive than meat or eggs.

for beans, don't forget lentils.

>>76249096
STFU you hahol mut, i'm a slavfag, that's for one, and besides that, i will appropriate whatever the fuck i want. Also, we don't have a monopoly on that shit, it's known and made in the whole central, east and north europe.

>>76249374
Autism status?

>>76249421
>it's a pissian
Your mongol ass is not slavic.

>>76248598 (OP)
I tried this last month.
Tastes like shit. I'd rather just eat canned beans.

>>76249452
>imagine thinking everyone who dislikes you is rushit
Everyone around you dislikes you, ukraine was a mistake and your "nation" was made up by literal communists, also, your "national hero" is a jew manlet.

it's not cheap, it's about as cheap as chicken or higher fat beef

i wish it was cheap, i'd be eating it

>>76249482
I'm on the "tofu sucks" team here but if you want it cheap and for some mental reason would eat it, it's really easy to make with the acidic method, look it up online if you can get cheap onions and have the time to fuck around.

>>76249096
>Nooooo! the thing that was obscure and part of my personality is now popular!!! how will i ever be special and unique now!!!

>>76249508
no, im just going to get pork

I can get a pork half loin for $1.80 a lb, and then I just slice it into pork chops and have them various ways.

Tofu is nowhere near that cheap. I'd rather just get chicken or beef than tofu

>>76249526
I see you decided to do the wise things then, good. Stewed pork tenderloin is the chad of tasty protein.

>>76249096
>izvara
>muh cultural approprieishun
Gtfo with that bullshit, poletard
You and all of your westslav denominationshit are the whole reason slave means what it means now

>>76249592
You need to lay off that vatnik juice retard, you just took a hohol for a pole.

>>76249746
What's the difference? Both carry the slave mentality. Only difference is the former were buttfucked by everyone and the latter are buttfucked by everyone

>>76249972
>slave mentality
That's fucking rich coming from a vatcuck.

>>76248598 (OP)
>even cheaper
>even more versatile
>slightly harder to prepare but worth it
>even higher protein amounts with infinitely better bioavailability
>vegan cultists always ignore it because red meat is an easier target to gang on
Also
>doesn't taste and feel like an eraser

>>76248598 (OP)
>Tastes like shit
>Has no nutrients
>BTFO by meat or basically any real food
Why would you torture yourself?>>76248711
>It tastes like whatever you prepare it with
This is code for
>smother it in spices so it won't make you gag
No thanks

>>76248598 (OP)
cheap ?
Where ?

>>76249253
Prove that it increases estrogen

>>76250264
It doesn't raise literal estrogen, smoothbrain. It's chockfull of estrogen mimetics, which can upset your hormonal balance even worse than estrogen alone. 50Yboy is a meme for a reason.

>>76250400
No it doesn't.

>>76250422
Nigger

im not eatin that shit grass fed burger mogs tofu lmao

>>76248897
meds
>>76248711
here Aldi sells it for almost the same price per kg as the local asian grocer
t. australia
>>76248852
>gross texture
anon you need to keep it in water to prevent mold growth
>>76249452
>>76249480
ths is why i love /int/

>>76250400
>>76250458
>ai shart trendhopping
>gigachad (tired meme)
>can't make an argument
>feels over reals
40 year old twitter addict spotted!

>>76249020
for what purpose

>>76250126
>>smother it in spices so it won't make you gag
what is wrong with you retards, it literally tastes like nothing. sometimes I'll just eat it plain straight out the package.

>>76248712
>>76248999
>15-17g of protein per 120 cal
This shit being in every supermarket and being dirt cheap is like the only upside of living in puccia

>>76248598 (OP)
seitan is better

>>76248712
>>never even had an estrogen meme
Actually it does.
Although you don't get steroids by simply eating food lol.

>>76250546
>It doesn't taste like anything
That isn't a good thing.
Also, the texture is disgusting.

>>76250030
>everyone that I don't like is a vatnik
Of course you've drank the coolaid. Congratulations, you've played yourself

>>76250825
>That isn't a good thing.
Do you put sugar in your water so it tastes yummy?

>>76248698
they're not unhealthy they're healthy for you

>>76248796
nope wrong

>>76250486
My proof is simply pattern recognition. The real world results of sioy consumption are dissonant with what sioyience reports them to be. If the data doesn't fit your model, it's not the data that is wrong. Asians (minus mongols) and sioyboys are all the proof you ever need.

>>76250400
Source: trust me bro

>>76251329
>can't tell obvious differences between slavic langs
>defaults to "people media told me to hate" thinking
>brain rotted out by propaganda
That is a clear vatnik state of mind.

>>76251336
Water is natural and is essential for life. Tofu is unnatural and non-essential. Nice try though.

>>76248715
Post body

>>76250264
All this information is easily accessible. You just need to search outside your echo chamber. A quick Google search of
"Estrogen menopause tofu" will find some information for you. The rest (understanding and critically thinking about why the results are what they are) requires brain cells.

>>76252081
Are the vatnik's in here with us right now, anon?

>>76248598 (OP)
High estrogen.

>>76250063
True true. Chicken breasts are primo protein. Just add some purchased sauce if you don't know how to cook, and it will still taste good.

>>76253680
Cut out the zoomer cringeposting, it wasn't witty the first time, it isn't the thousandth.

>>76253640
Ah, so you can't prove it. Great

>>76248711
Yeah I've lived in Asia and it was super cheap, under $2 a kg, go back to Australia and there's no point because it's just as much as chicken

Would usually cook it myself on a lunch break in under 10 mins
> Air dried wheat noodles
>Tofu
>Frozen veggies
>Onion, maybe mushrooms
Boil water in kettle
Throw tofu in wok, then onions/shrooms
Put noodles/frozen veg in bowl add boiling water let sit for a few minutes
Soi sauce, dark soi sauce, shaoxing (rice cooking wine, whatever the fuck it's called, rice wine vinegar is ok too)
In go noodles/vege and add minced garlic and/or ginger
Stir it up
Add Water/corn starch slurry and cook for 30 secs
Shitload of sesame seeds from your sesame seed shaker (you do have a sesame seed shaker right?)
Dash of fresh sou
Wa lah

Incredibly good macros, usually make more than necessary and fridge it up in glassware containers

>>estrogen meme debunked
most studies say otherwise

>>76257538
you're retarded
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11603644/
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/07315724.2001.10719168
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11784794/
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/298848707_Soy_isoflavones_-_Benefits_and_risks_from_nature%27s_selective_estrogen_receptor_modulators_SERMs
It binds to estrogen receptors 100x more weakly than estrogen and activates the receptors 1000x more weakly. It's a SERM, but it's so low concentration that unless you eat 45000cal worth of soya it won't have an effect.

>>76257550
Meanwhile it's known to reduce symptoms of menopause (lack of estrogen) and in some cases completely eliminate them. Doctors now recommend all pre menopausal and menopausal women consume copious amounts of these phytoestrogens. And, of course, they throw their hands up and say they don't fully understand why it works (when th implication for why it works is so obvious that even children can connect the dots).

>>76257574
>no estrogen
>weak binding provides an estrogenic effect
>normal amount of estrogen
>receptors being occupied provides a SERM effect
you'd have to be either retarded or an infant to not be able to connect the dots

>>76257585
Cute. Now defend why it reduces prostate cancer in men (which is known to occur due to excess testosterone).

Reminder that the carnivore diet is collapsing already due to new evidence that it increases insulin sensitivity and can even cause diabetes That's right, meat causes diabetes, not sugar. Ask why most keto and carnivore shills end up failing oral glucose tests. Eventually everyone will remember that veggies and fruits are good for you.

>>76257602
>tumors use hormones to grow, like the rest of your body
>restricting a tumors access to hormone reduces tumors ability to grow
are you 12 or just a downie?

>>76257609
Try again.
>Onions isoflavones, specifically genistein and daidzein, are incorporated in prostate tissue and may act as weak estrogens and inhibit the development of prostate cancer.
Doctors admit it's estrogenic, which is why it can prevent prostate cancer. Likewise in menopausal women who, onions isoflavones eliminate symptoms of menopause. In the latter case you argue it's because these women lack estrogen and so the phytoestrogens can replace missing estrogen. Okay, fine. But that doesn't explain what's occurring with the prostate.
Anyhow, you already made my argument for me.
>>restricting a tumors access to hormone
And which hormone is this phytoestrogen restricting? :)

>>76257634
>Doctors admit it's estrogenic
see >>76257550
I see you've chosen "downie" so there's no point in trying to reason with a subhuman IQ
have fun being retarded

>>76257640
Dodging the question now are we? Reminder that the green text were your words.
>restricting a tumors access to hormone
And which hormone is this phytoestrogen restricting? :)

>>76257550
Here's the way : https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan

>>76257855
I might be stupid, but their post doesn't say anything about only eating vegetables. Why did you bring that up?

>>76251910
>An unusual case of gynecomastia associated with onions product consumption

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18558591/

>Results: A 60-year-old man was referred to the endocrinology clinic for evaluation of bilateral gynecomastia of 6 months' duration. He reported erectile dysfunction and decreased libido.
>Initial laboratory assessment showed estrone and estradiol concentrations to be 4-fold increased above the upper limit of the reference range.
>After he discontinued drinking onions milk, his breast tenderness resolved and his estradiol concentration slowly returned to normal.

my source is google. Pretty nifty, you should try it some time.

>>76256334
>waAAAAAAaaah!!
>FEED ME! FEED ME!

no no billy, you're a big boy now. You have to spoonfeed yourself like a grownup

>>76257859
>their
nice of you outing yourself

Meat tastes like shit without salt, spices, herbs or a marinade. I never understood the criticism that tofu doesn't taste like anything. Yeah you're supposed to flavor it, that's what cooking is. The only foods that taste good raw are fruits and carrots.

The estrogen made me a dyel soiyboy twink

>>76248715
>/fit/ is now a /pol/ outpost
shut up, faggot
>who refuse to eat it because they associate it with 'leftist vegans'
yes
>These same people almost never eat vegetables and don't know how to cook.
yes
>I enjoy cock
ftfy
>I also am trans btw
ftfy

>>76257919
You didn't answer the question
I'll take that as an "I got triggered by a vegetable"

>>76257881
>Millions of people eat onions with no issues, with studies spanning thousands of people to back it up.
>"look at this one guy who had something happen one time. "

Christ your reasoning skills are lower than that of a toddler.

>>76254496
I'm not here to entertain you, moron. Feel free to kys. The world would be better without your schizo ass anyway

>>76257881
>unusual
way to defeat your own point in the second word of your post.