Which way proud fitizens?

>>76253430 (OP)
Posts 2 retard lolcows.
>I choose neither.

Roider vs roider
who cares

>>76253441
You forgot left did meth.

>>76253430 (OP)
Memtzer is a confirmed grifter, isretel is only a suspected grifter.

>>76253544
Shalom

>>76253430 (OP)
>lying mediocre bodybuilder who lied about his steroid and meth use and even the Excersizes and methods he used to get his body
V
>a mediocre body builder who told the truth about how he got his.

>>76253430 (OP)
right because i trust science

God damn it, why does there always have to be a picture of Mike Israetel on the front page?

>>76253438
fpbp

If i have to pick a based jew

>>76253629
As a warning to all science lifters

>>76253430 (OP)
Unironically right, fuck tweakers.

>>76253448
based cocktail fitizen

>>76253710
Oh shit, I meant left

>>76253718
Memenzter cultists are the worst.

>>76253716
Oh shit, I meant left

>>76253430 (OP)
I'll choose the one on the left. He was able to get 2nd and 5th place at two Olympias. Whereas the kike on the right has yet to place above 5th at a local amateur show.
>>76253544
>grifter
Kike Israel is a grifter. But Mike Mentzer seems to have believed what he was writing. According to Marcus Reinhart, his closest student, he used to say "I don't believe in natural! I believe in supernatural! Are you one something Marcus? No? Then get on something!"

>>76253448
Would meth help israetel cut and finally get his pro card?

>>76253737
No. He'd probably just gorge himself on cereal during a meth-induced psychosis.

>>76253710
Everam's balls, I meant left

>>76253430 (OP)
I still can't believe how bad Kike looks even though he's on ungodly amounts of gear. He's also a manlet and makes himself look big on youtube with the low camera angles but the illusion breaks immediately when you see him in context.

>>76253782
>Demon Cycle reference
Based

>>76253649
Getting tired of this schizo being promoted "ironically"

>>76253782
Memenzter cultists are the worst.

>>76253448
All I hear from bodybuilders is pre-workout this, pre-workout that, but you smoke a little meth before the gym and they lose their damn minds.

>>76253802
Who gives a fuck what his mental wellbeing is. His info is what counts.

>>76253839
The thing I love most about this criticism is people bring it up in this pearl clutching "CAN YOU BELIEVE HE DID THAT!!!?!?" way when in reality it was not uncommon for lifters to use meth back then.

>>76253430 (OP)
right is preggers >.<

>>76253850
It's important how you present the info as well. In that's regard, Lyle is a retard. He might even be on the spectrum due to his lack of self awareness. He could be 100% accurate, but no one will listen to what he says.

>>76253629
I thought his name was Mike Israel? Holy Mandela effect.

>>76253752
How much retard juice can we extract from his single comment, I wonder...

>>76253430 (OP)
Guy on the right said he looked better than the guy on the left btw.

>>76253996
>goy on the left

>>76253850
Could I, by chance, see his physique that he built by applying all that unfathomable info?

>>76253888
Yeah, look at some platz videos from back in the day, he is coked out

>>76253996
I don't believe you.

>>76253925
Dude is bipolar. Undiagnosed for years. Read some of hes dog psyche posts. They are wild.

>>76253821
Israel cultists are the worst

>>76253438
Both idiots, only difference is one has good genetics

>>76253996
>>76254117
He did not. He said he's bigger and stronger than Mentzer, which is true. Dr Mike is heavier than Mentzer despite being shorter so he is bigger (bigger does not mean better though, boogie2988 is also bigger than Mentzer).

And Dr Mike is objectively stronger too, they're on par with bench but Dr Mike has a way better squat and deadlift

>>76254411
Assuming that is true
>press x to doubt
it's irrelevant.

>>76254411
>is heavier than Mentzer
At a significantly higher bodyfat percentage. His lowest, around 217 while still at a much higher bodyfat percentage is barely 2 lbs over Mentzer's 215. What's the Kike's bodyfat percentage? 12%? No definition in legs and not very much in the back on stage. Meanwhile Mentzer was ripped on stage. Probably 6-7% bodyfat. Mike was probably leaner year round when he was competing than Kike ever was in his life.
>Kike is objectively stronger too, they're on par with bench
Mentzer was squatting over 500 lbs with Casey Viator and his brother. He had to stop after a month because his joints started to hurt while those two kept going at it. And this was for reps. Menzter then stuck to the 400-500 lb range for something like 6-8 reps or failure after that and in his workouts it would be after doing a superset of leg extensions into leg press. Very likely would be much stronger than Kike Israel if Mentzer ever stepped into a power lifting contest.

Menzter's Bench press of 370 lbs was also when he was 15 years old. And even with a cycle, Mentzer's cycles were much lower than Kike Israel's cycles as most cycles were then. Mentzer was bigger and stronger than Kike Israel. Kike Israel is probably weaker than most of the guys who ever stepped into Gold's gym in the 70's. It's pure hubris on Kike's part. All those guys were probably stronger than Kike except Arnold on the squat. But then again, Arnold has at least a foot on Kike and has long legs.

>>76254777
>wall of text defending a methhead liar and grifter

>>76254878
Just put the fries in the bag bro

>>76253888
Also like, bodybuilders inject a bunch of research chemicals/sarms/peptides/test/whatever else Chinese slop and use preworkouts that have basically almost meth (dmaa) but suddenly real proper meth is a problem?

>>76254777
Cringe

>>76254777
>Very likely would be much stronger than Kike Israel if Mentzer ever stepped into a power lifting contest.
Retarded "what if" scenarios mean nothing though lol. What if Mentzer won an Olympia too? Who cares, it didn't happen so why even debate this?

I could argue that Israetel could have been more aesthetic than Mentzer if he had a perfect diet and training from day 1, but that never happened so it's irrelevant

>>76253430 (OP)
>Which way
Those are two separate stages of the same exact way though.

>>76253649
Iranian

>>76254411
He's neither bigger nor stronger. Israeltel is a small guy, smaller everywhere except for his weight which is due to enormous mass in his abdomen. Mentzer was way bigger, it's no contest you can compare their contest shape measurements, and Mentzer was strong as fuck too.

>>76253430 (OP)
>lifting heavy ass weights to failure vs le heckin' sciencerino
Yeah I'm picking Mentzer every time.

>>76254777
please just an hero you retarded faggot

>>76257402
The numbers on the scale and barbell don't lie bruh. Israetel is objectively bigger and lifts higher numbers

That does not mean he looks better though, Mentzer looks 500x better despite being lighter and having weaker lifts, which just shows numbers aren't everything. Arnold is weaker than Mentzer but still looks better too

>>76253438

>>76253430 (OP)
is meth /fit/ approved?

>>76257299
Kike Israel can't even get into shape for an amateur contest.
>didn't happen
Mike was training heavier than Kike ever has. Mike would win. Plain and simple.
>>76257299
>I could argue that Israetel could have been more aesthetic than Mentzer
He would have never been because he's a hebraic little ogre whose "size" is mostly fat. Given the amount of drugs Kike has taken since day one, he does not have the genetics to be anything close to Mike. Kike does not have the genes to compete with amateurs in open which is mostly about size. Mike, even today would be able to go into classic and get a pro-card. The difference between them is night and day.
>>76257459
>objectively bigger
fatter
>Mentzer looks 500x better despite being lighter
Mike's 215 lbs are at 6-7% body fat. Kike's 217 lbs is at 12% bodyfat with zero definition in the back. Off-season Mike had more definition in the back than Kike ever had on stage. That's a 12 lb difference in fat. Kike at 6-7% body fat would be 205 lbs.
>lifts higher numbers
Nope. Kike sticks to his light weight stretch work while relying on several grams of drugs to do all the work for him. And even when was competing at 280 lbs for powerlifting he had shit numbers, especially for his weight class. BTW, his 370 lift has only been performed once and his later contests had him more at 335-345. Whereas 315+ was regular training weight (relatively high reps) for everyone at Gold's, including Mike. We can compare Kike to everyone at Gold's. Mike just happens to be the scapegoat picked by Kike so we're talking about Mike. The only person there who really has a lower lift than Kike was Arnold because Arnold was not built for squats. Still 220 kg (484 lbs) for a guy with very long legs and a long femur v. Kike's 550 squat.

Reject degeneracy. Embrace TRADITION.

>>76253430 (OP)
Prime example of genetics. Right one uses more gear then left.

>>76254777
Checked and file name keked

>>76253649
>20 years in the can

>>76257459
>Israetel is objectively bigger

>>76257965
Is left just bad at posing? Right’s arms are waaaaay fuller. Calves look way better too

>>76258114
>Is left just bad at posing?
No, he is just holding 20lbs of water and a bad tan. Nothing a liposuction can't fix

Im backing a rael man... mike....manzer

I bought mike mentzer's book is it worth reading

>>76258356
Only if you mean Heavy Duty II.