Thread 76256885

plants don't have over 50 microooonutrieoooontss

>>76256885 (OP)
his eyes look so weird

>>76256885 (OP)
No hes wronf

his face is always shiny these days

he literally just says stupid shit that he doesnt believe in over and over again just to scrape by any money from his videos
whoever keeps watching this shit is totally checked out of life

>>76257097
wears he sunscreen ????

Maybe...

>>76257152
some kind of skincare products. His gf belle has that same shiny face

>>76256885 (OP)
>plants don't have over 50 microooonutrieoooontss
they totally do, you just have to pick the right plants.
>not eating both plants and meat
>2025

>>76256885 (OP)
No, of course not. The animals we eat all eat PLANTS. Those fucking nutrients all come from plants. Yes animals eat them and are nutrient dense sources, but to say that plants DONT have them is dumb. You can eat less meat and get the same nutrients, or more plants and get the same as long as you eat a variety of them and not just packages of 50Y all day long over and over.

>>76256885 (OP)
Anyone who talks about diet or nutrition in an emotionally charged way or by using hyperbolic language should be disregarded immediately. Follow this advice and you will filter out 100% of fad diets, grifters and bad advice.

>>76256885 (OP)
>plants lack 15 nutrients found in meat
Yes, this is true.

>>76257642
What 15 nutrients

>>76257652
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg

>>76256885 (OP)
>is he right ?
yes
he's a smartest man on YT after Niel deGrasse Tyson

>>76257097
>>76257152
>>76257366
based on my own experiences, im guessing he rubs animal fat on his skin

>constant meat sweats and never eating fruit
Imagine the smell.

>>76256885 (OP)
You don't have to follow or like sv3rige to understand that nutrients are optimally obtained from animal foods. It's so weird that this fact is considered "controversial" these days. Historically people ate as much animal food as they had access to or could afford, and would otherwise garnish meals with plants to add bulk and calories. It wasn't for "balance". Royalty weren't eating salads and imported grains, they would feast on animal foods... no one thought of it as eating "carnivore" because it was just taken as a given that it's what humans should eat ideally. This only changed with modern marketing and global shipping making the food industry far more profitable via imported plant foods.

>>76257652
It's actually way more than 15. 15 is just what's entirely missing, nearly every nutrient has such poor bio availability that you have to eat toxic amounts of that food that reach the supposed RDA.

Like take iron for example, it should be heme iron from animal foods, the bio-availability from plant iron is between double and 10x less bio-available. This is why so many vegans are anaemic. Even the supplements don't work properly. The stats about missing nutrients really understate how bad plants are for malnourishment.

>>76257652
>>76257689
Vitamin A
Vitamin B6 (pyridoxal, pyridooxamine)
Vitamin B12
Vitamin D
Vitamin D3
Vitamin F
Vitamin K2
Creatine
Carnitine
Carnosine
Taurine
Eicosapentaenoic acid
Docosahexaenoic acid
Heme-iron
Coenzyme Q10
Conjugated linoleic acid
Cholesterol

>>76257791
He does eat fruit.

>>76257577
Keep watching jeff nippard

>>76256885 (OP)
is his hairline receding again?
why not keep it short

Why don't Paleo/Ancestral diet people ever advocate for eating ze bugs? Pretty much all paleolithic people on the planet would have eaten insects, they're literally everywhere, they are a good source of protein and much easier to get with primitive tools than hunting larger game. Chimps and other monkeys in nature eat bugs all the time, not to mention modern day isolated tribes usually eat bugs when they don't have access to meat.

>>76257830
Plantkeks be like
>humans evolved to eat plants!
>*goes to the grocery store and buys plantslop from 50 different countries all over the world that would be impossible to obtain before industrialization*

>>76257885
There are precisely two reason people eat insects:
They don't have access to large animals (which you acknowledged) and need to eat insects, temporarily, in order to survive.
They are considered a delicacy and are not a significant portion of their diet.
Fortunately, we have a abundance of large animals.

>>76257830
Appeal to history is retarded
Royalty were notoriously sick, we found out that having a peasant diet is simply better for your health

>>76257896
You can tell humans didn't evolve to eat much meat given that we're the only animals that get atherosclerosis and heart attacks. True obligate carnivores in nature don't have this issue. Humans weren't meant to eat so much fat, modern factory farms animals have nothing in common with the lean game meat early hunters would have had access too.

>>76257940
Nobody argues that modern meat is shit quality full of hormones, heavy metals, plastics, onions, nitrates and whatnot, that doesn't disprove the self-evident fact that our stomachs are designed for meat.

>>76256885 (OP)
he is a subhuman faggot, he was tough when it came to pushing a woman but pussied out when a dyel spilled paint all over him

>>76257958
didnt he literally stab some niggas?

>>76257928
But the abundance of large animals is the issue. Fasting and famines we're extremely common for most of history. Modern day groups that Paleo types fetishize like the Massai and Eskimos sometimes go months without food. You can't advocate a Paleo diet without also doing the paleo lifestyle. They're constantly moving, have insecure food availability, and were riddled with parasites. None of this diet makes sense in a modern Western context, it's completely unsustainable, both for the environment and for health.

>>76257940
Heart diseases are caused by man-made fats like margarines and cooked fats. There are no recorded heart attacks among populations that eat raw meat exclusively, such as the Eskimos and Maasai.

>>76257963
i heard he tried to get some other nigga to stab his ex

>>76257969
lmao
>he thinks inuit didn't have heart disease
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2757994

>>76257967
>But the abundance of large animals is the issue. Fasting and famines we're extremely common for most of history.
You're oversimplifying hunter-gatherer diets. Archaeological evidence shows consistent access to game and fish, with seasonal variations, but not frequent starvation.
>Modern day groups that Paleo types fetishize like the Massai and Eskimos sometimes go months without food
You're exaggerating. The Maasai rely on raw milk, blood, and meat with seasonal shifts but not months long starvation. The Eskimos eat raw fish, seal, and blubber year-round, with fermented fish in winter.
>You can't advocate a Paleo diet without also doing the paleo lifestyle
Nonsense. The Paleo diet’s core is nutrient-dense foods (meat, fat, organs) not replicating every aspect of ancient lifestyles. Modern sourcing and domestication food insecurity irrelevant.
>it's completely unsustainable
No, grass-fed systems are highly sustainable. Industrial agriculture is what's unsustainable.
>health
I guess you're retarded. Meat, dairy, eggs, and fats, provide all bioavailable nutrients the human body needs to be healthy.

>>76257969
Their lifespan is like 50 lmao, also it's difficult to get accurate medical records in people that live outside of civilization.

Goatis is a schizo but he's right about 80% of the stuff he says (not only food-related).
It's over exaggerated how many nutrients you lose when cooking, not it's half, more like 15-20% (which is nothing in the longterm).
He's right about veganism - you can't survive eating plants only, just look at vegans, their thin, pale skin and sunken eyes.
He's right about most vegetables. If you can't eat it raw - you shouldn't eat it at all. I'd like to see someone eat raw grains/rice/potatoes and see how long they last.

He is an ignorant contrarian retard. You can tell just from looking at him that he is a slimy coward parasite that can't keep a girl or friend to save his fucking life. Mark my words, this idiot will have a bad ending.

>>76257992
What a shitty article. Small sample (4 mummies), no dietary records, unknown lifestyle factors, cause of death could not be determined, etc. Garbage study that sucks off mainstream narratives blaming animal fats. We don't need to look at remains of Inuit when we can see, right now, that Inuit still living the traditional way don't have heart issues.

>>76258005
The average is 70-80 years. That average is skewed because of high infant mortality, due to the extreme conditions in which they live, not what they eat.

>>76257940
hunter gatherers are manlets. The real chads are pastoralists that have a steady supply of fat and meat

>>76257366
If you use tretinoin you pretty much have to use moisturizer which is probably what it is

>>76258011
>If you can't eat it raw - you shouldn't eat it at all.
Thats a silly logic that defies evolution. Every (successful) living species on the planet has their ways of escaping predation. For animals its fucking running away, hiding, or fighting back, or just living in places nobody else can like penguins, as for plants its producing plant toxins, having hard shells, tasting upappealingly etc. We overcome animal defenses by chasing them down, laying traps, shooting them niggas, domesticating them so they just sit there and wait to get slaughtered, and so on. It goes similarly for plants, if we can crush the hard shell of a wheat grain and draw the nutrient part and do that on industrial scale, it's the same act as hunting animals - overcoming defenses by producing superior offensive capability. Is domesticating a cow to be huge, fat, and producing 20x more milk than necessary any different in practical terms from domesticating bananas to be huge, sweet, without any seeds?

>>76258223
You can catch a fish and eat it raw right there.
You can't dig out a potato and eat it raw.

>>76258223
Domestication of cows for milk or bananas for sweetness isn’t equivalent. Raw milk, even from high yield breeds, retains enzymes and probiotics, supporting digestion and immunity. Bananas, bred for sugar, lack enzymes when cooked or processed and ferment in the gut, causing irritation. Industrial wheat processing destroys nutrients. Raw animal foods are digestible without any processing.

>>76256885 (OP)
He looks extremely fruity, zesty in that pic, I know hes not gay has beat up his ex didnt he or something? But he looks like a queer in ops pic.

>>76257885
The same reason the paleo diet has been reformulated like 50 different times to include and exclude different things because it's a fad diet

>>76258300
doctor doom of /fit/veria

>>76257896
>its OK when my ground meat comes from across the country pieced together from 20 different cows, fed an artificial diet of grains
>God forbid someone eat broccoli out of season though

>>76258329
>what are farmers markets?

>>76258336
>What is missing the point entirely?

>>76258271
Eating raw meat leads to parasites or food borne illness. That is why literally every successful civilization on the planet started cooking food, look how advanced the people are on Sentinel Island if you want to know the power of raw food.

>>76258336
99% of all chicken and 75% of all beef comes from CAFOs and factory farms. The amount of meat sold at a farmers market compared to the amount Americans eat is negligible. Nobody except the Amish actually avoids factory farmed meat or dairy in entirety.

>>76258391
>heh look at how advanced Homo Erectus is bet you feel stupid now

>>76257410
you can't
see >>76257642 >>76257851
>>76257422
You're extremely ignorant. Ruminant animals have completely different digestive system, they have a stomachs with four compartments and symbiotic microorganisms that allow them to break down indigestible fibers. If you would eat like those animals you would die.

>>76257410
you can't
see >>76257642 >>76257851
>>76257422
You're extremely ignorant. Ruminant animals have completely different digestive systems, they have stomachs with four compartments and symbiotic microorganisms that allow them to break down indigestible fibers. If you would eat like those animals you would die.

>>76258329
The point is, in the natural environment animals do not have 'seasons'. They are available year around. Most plants bear fruit once or twice a year and ony in certain climates. Thats why frugivore is the rarest type of animal.

Eating slave food and thinking that it's good for you. LOL

>oh no! my chronic inflammation is totally irrelevant to the garbage I eat
>I poop 5 times a day, and everytime they smell like death, it's perfectly normal!
>I take a bunch of pills and supplements, otherwise I have no energy
>Oxalates? Goitrogens? wtf are those? I just eat whatever as long as it is vegan! must be healthy right?
>My sex drive is gone :-(
>I need to drink coffee to stimulate my self with adrenaline, it's perfectly normal! everyone does it!
>meat? yuk! That rots in your gut! (That's what some very clever youtube people told me!)
>**dies from heart attack or cancer at 45**

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suocsHQH000
Goatis dunking on average /fit/ powerfat

>>76256885 (OP)
>micronutrients
plants don't have any macro nutrients either

It's ok to kill people if you want to?

>>76258223
>missed the point
>"we can do it, therefore we should"

>>76258663
>>Oxalates? Goitrogens? wtf are those? I just eat whatever as long as it is vegan! must be healthy right?

if you don't have iodine skill issues and keep up your probiotics, yeah pretty much actually. I've eaten a pound of raspberries in one sitting before without kidney stones and my TSH comes back normal despite around a kilo of peanut butter a month, LOL.

>Go Carnivore
>Drink apple cider
>Die
Do people really think paleolithic humans were so fragile? It's insane looking at keto/carnivore forums, they're the most neurotic losers in the
planet. Obsessing over every carb, terrified of beans and raspberries. Blaming every ill on "oxalate dumping." Constantly worrying about being thrown out of ketosis. They're always tired and never do any cardio. Humans never would've survived this long if they were as fragile and picky as the keto crowd.

>>76258813
Humans are extremely resilient, this is what allows vegans to exist at all. You body can manage to survive for years, even decades, on a retarded diet full of plants and goyslop. However, modern humans already undergo immense stress without eating like crap. Our ancestors didnt have to deal with pollution, microplastics, AIDs, urbanization, deforestation, 40 hour work weeks, rapidly changing cultures, rising demands for qualifications, 24/7 psyops and so on. Modern life is nothing but stress on top of stress unless you're part of 1% elite. Least you can do is eat cleanly.

>>76258727
>without kidney stones
that could mean youre just storing it in your body to potentially cause issues later. remember seeing an autopsy study showing about 80%+ of older people with crystallized oxalate in their thyroid. likely in other places as well if youre eating a diet that exceeds your bodies disposal capacity. historically we wouldve had low oxalate diets during winter when most plants werent available. now its peanuts and chocolate year round

>>76257097
probably retinol

I just talked with Goatis on Discord earlier. He thought the steak I had was based but got scared away by asparagus.

>>76258391
>Eating raw meat leads to parasites or food borne illness
Only if you eat an unhealthy animal, which you should not do.
You can eat a healthy animal raw.
You can't eat a healthy potato raw.

>>76259163
>asparagus
>eating indigestible plant stocks containing volatile sulfur compounds that make your piss stink like the brimstone of hell

>>76257896
Before industrialization humans ate a much larger variety of plants. Many edible plants and forgeable plants are not widely consumed anymore because they're not suited to farming or mass production. Even the united states used to have literal thousands of varieties of apples, now there is what, less than a dozen? No I'm not vegan or anything, I'm not a modern retard and I eat a wide variety of all foods. Humans evolved to be omnivores. No matter what restrictive meme diet someone is doing, they're all equally retarded.

>>76258615
You don't live in a natural environment. It's irrelevant.

>>76259296
Its relevant because we evolved in one. The funny part is that if humanity embraced shit like eugenics and gene therapy we'd likely been able to adapt our guts biome to herbivore lifestyle within a couple of generations. But since we are stagnant species that has no survival pressures and breeds randomly, we're biologically still stuck in the caves.

>>76259756
No, it's not. You build a car in a factory, but you drive a car on the road. That's like saying a car isn't meant to stay in a factory.

>>76256885 (OP)
how can you look at this dude and think "yeah, the lifestyle and diet he leads is absolutely healthy"

>>76259756
Oh, okay. I see that we actually agree. I apologize for misunderstanding your comment before. I thought you were promoting carnivore, or that humans are carnivorous.

>>76259254
Aside from the indigestible "stocks", you've just also described eggs. Eggs contain volatile sulfur compounds and make your gas stink. Is that a reason to avoid eggs?

>>76259216
Anon, we can analyze preserves mummies from ancient times, they're invariably riddled with parasites and disease. There was no mythical past where humans were perfectly healthy. You can't see bacteria or parasites in your meat, which is why humans started cooking in the first place.

Ironically, there's evidence that some parasites eat cholesterol which may explain why heart disease was less of an issue back then.

>>76256885 (OP)
Ah, a high meat enjoyer!

Red meat is literally poison. Goatis is a retard that's going to kill himself by 55 from either bowel cancer or a heart attack.

>>76259975
>red meat is literally poison
t. creature made of red meat

>>76259993
Human is delicious white meat like dog and pork tho

>>76259817
I eat raw eggs, which are the easiest thing on Earth to digest.

>>76260490
You're just further proving my point. Half of the protein in raw eggs is indigestible. Are you going to actually answer the question or just pivot to nonsense?

>>76260494
Eggs contain sulfur amino acids which are beneficial. Asparagus sulfur compounds form methanethiol and dimethyl sulfide which ferment, causing smelly gas and piss even in small amounts.
>Half of the protein in raw eggs is indigestible
This is just wrong. I pointed this out in an egg thread once, and some tard posted a study about ileostomy patients (shit bag users).

>>76260569
Smelly gas is a very common side effect of egg consumption. People often remark that protein consumption in general causes smelly gas.

>>76260573
Such is the case for people with fucked up gut flora. I used to be egg intolerant until I got my shit together.

>>76260573
I eat three a day and don’t have any gas at all. They’re one of the best foods you can eat.

>starts eating 90% grains
>loses his mind
The GOAT won

>>76260573
>Smelly gas is a very common side effect of egg consumption
overcooked eggs, yes

He's a psychopath but his videos making fun of retarded roid troons are kino

desu he's not redpilled enough
humans don't just eat raw meat but they eat rotting food
humans all throughout the ages have intentionally aged/fermented dairy, fruits, meats, organs, vegetables, fish, etc.
that's because our stomach ph is that of a scavenger.
humans naturally can't rip open cadavers without tools. the use of tools came later.
we only had access to meat, once the carnivores were done with their share.
that's the real truth.

>>76256885 (OP)
Hey guys this person is so ugly and unhealthy looking so unatural disgusting unlike me im perfect and handsome and natural unlike every other person on this planet im nature

>>76260880
>he doesn't know

>>76256885 (OP)
vegans are subhuman retards.
carnivores are subhuman retards.
/thread

>>76260770
Smelly gas is the result of sulfur compounds in the foods. It has nothing to do with your gut microbiomeor food intolerances

>>76260807
Overcooking eggs decreases the amount of sulfur compounds, not increases them.

>>76260807
Overcooking eggs decreases the concentration of sulfur compounds, not the inverse

its a meme at this point, but people were perfectly healthy up until the trend of obesity started in late 70s early 80s.

no one really knows why. some say seed oils, some say more sedentary, some say gmo, some say microplastics, some say sugar, but the food is fucked up somehow and/or hormones. very bizarrre.

its posted all the time but look at beaches in the 80s, besides no black people, the whites were skinny , and really not muscular

>>76260914
idk how he paid for hair transplant but no fkn invisalign
his teeth are so small and weird he looks so disgusting

>>76260967
>It has nothing to do with your gut microbiomeor food intolerances
It has everything to do with that. If your gut lacks beneficial bacteria to metabolize sulfur compounds efficiently, you get smelly gas. In other words, if your gut is fucked up and filled with bad bacteria, said bacteria will convert undigested sulfur into smelly gas.

>>76260985
Human beings cannot completely metabolize sulfur. There will always be an excretion of sulfur, no matter how good or bad your bacteria is. So far has an inherently bad smell, which is why you get smelly gas from eggs. It's just a fact of life. And you keep trying to make things up to defend eggs when the initial point wasn't even contrary to eggs being healthful or something we should eat. It was a challenge to someones logic.

>>76260985
Human beings cannot completely metabolize sulfur. There will always be an excretion of sulfur, no matter how good or bad your bacteria is. Sulphur has an inherently bad smell, which is why you get smelly gas from eggs. It's just a fact of life. And you keep trying to make things up to defend eggs when the initial point wasn't even contrary to eggs being healthful or something we should eat. It was a challenge to someones logic.

>>76260972
raw egg yolks never made me fart

>>76261026
I didn't ask

>>76261000
True but that other anon made shit up by saying, "it has nothing to do with your gut microbiome", which is retarded. He seems to think gas has nothing to do with your gut flora. My point is, if your gut can metabolize egg sulfur efficiently, the odor is negligible.

>After reading this thread
Then what the fuck should we eat? The vegetables and fruit are full of pesticides. The meat is filled with injected hormones and what not. And the fish contain microplastics.
Atleast with meat and eggs I barely have to wipe my ass after taking a shit, so I think I'll just stick to meat and eggs only.

>>76261114
The actual point is the vast majority of people result in smelly gas when eating lots of eggs and sulphurous foods.

>>76261189
No, the vegetables and fruit are not "full of" pesticides. Words have meanings.

>>76261114
The actual point is the vast majority of people result in smelly gas when eating lots of eggs and sulphurous foods. Perfect health is not the baseline on which general things are judged. If you had perfect health, your kidneys would be extremely efficient and your urine wouldn't smell bad after you ate asparagus, which goes back to the actual original point of this whole diet tribe, which seems to have gone off the rails.

>>76261189
I think modern factory farming is so incredibly evil and inhuman that it would be reasonable to go vegetarian/vegan even if it weren't completely healthy, just to avoid giving money so such a harmful industry. Of course modern agriculture is shit too, overusing pesticides and herbicides and using illegal immigrants as slave labor. But CAFOs and slaughterhouses are even worse with their labor issues, overuse of hormones and antibiotics, environmental destruction and mistreatment of livestock animals.

>>76261254
>the vast majority of people result in smelly gas when eating lots of eggs
because the vast majority of people have an imbalanced gut
>If you had perfect health, your kidneys would be extremely efficient and your urine wouldn't smell bad after you ate asparagus
You'd still have stinky urine because the smell is chemical. The sulfur in eggs is not the same as the sulfur in asparagus. Stink in the urine is caused by asparagusic acid metabolites. This acid is unique to asparagus and it can't be synthesized by the human body, unlike the sulfur in eggs.

>>76256885 (OP)
Please tell me this is a shoop

>>76261189
It's simple you have to dispose of or severely curtail the scientific class of faggot nerds that want to poison everything and shape the world to be as malformed as they are

>>76257972
W-with his p-penis?

>>76261489
It's not like the problems with methane gas are theoretical, it's basic chemistry. Methane holds 28x as much heat as carbon dioxide. If you faggots won't stop eating so much steak than the next best option for scientists is to try and cut down on methane emissions and try to make cattle more environmentally friendly.

>>76261533
Sorry I don't partake in your little environmental cult I don't believe ripping up carbon trapping forests and grassland to plant wind turbines and solar panels is going to stop the planet from blowding up and I don't think mammal farts are going to either

>>76261550
Virtually all the deforestation of the Amazon is for beef production so I doubt you give a shit about that. Same with onions and corn, almost all of it is used for animal feed, not humans.

>>76261561
Why would I give a shit about that, it can't be bad if the scientists themselves are doing it can it. I agree we should not be feeding livestock slop crops like s𐐬y and corn but it's so cheep, nasty and readily available as well as the fact that more and more arable land is being strip mined for said slop crops, meme energy and housing for migrants that farmers already railroaded into the factory farm lifestyle (that scientists created) will do it

>>76261550
Holy fuck you're stupid. Beef is the number one contributor to deforestation.
>but look at these people who did a thing
you're right, guess we should just keep being retarded and deforesting for beef because of your screenshot.

>>76261570
>scientists
Where does it say that? If you look up the article it literally says "Scientists are concerned it will fragment the ecosystem". Literally making up shit just to avoid responsibility.
>I agree we should not be feeding livestock slop crop
Gee maybe the massive demand is why they do that. Or maybe because grass-fed would require several times more land use.

>>76256885 (OP)
holy cortisol spike

>>76261581
I'm more than happy to put the beef on already available grassland, I certainly don't buy my beef from Brazil or anywhere close to it for that matter. Will you be okay giving up your seed oils and tea/coffee slop? Not only are the unnecessary for biological function they contribute greatly to deforestation and climate change since they get shipped half way around the globe :^)
>>76261587
>scientists are concerned as they create another plastic to sprinkle in baby formula and another computer model to tell them how to release carcinogens into the water faster

>>76261608
People will never switch to grass fed beef voluntarily because meat eaters are unironically the biggest and whiniest babies on the planet. Remember last year how many people were crying about egg prices going up thanks to the bird flu (caused by factory farming)? All the local chickens and eggs were fine, but people were upset they couldn't buy their frankenchickens from Tyson anymore.

>>76261744
Well what happens with bird flu, which is only really a thing with battery hens (scientists created the practices of factory farming and are responsible for it's continued updates and development) to make the egg prices sore is the genius scientists have enacted a policy of if one bird in a flock of 10,000 chickens tests positive for it and none of the rest do then they cull the whole flock because excelsior science demands it! If you have a problem with people being ill educated regarding egg quality and choices then you should take it up with the science of mass marketing and advertisement