>Who is /fat/ for?
For hydrated heavies working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.
Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/

>What do I do first?
1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/
2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy
3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/
Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.
4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).

>Now what?
Count calories, all of them.
Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.
Buy scales, be accurate.
Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.
Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.
Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.
Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.
Drink more water.
Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html

>DON'T
Eat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.
Eat processed foods.
Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).
Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks.
"Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.

>Other resources:
Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/
Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faq

Previous thread: >>76254844

I've started lifting again and I've gained 2 kilos in 2 weeks. Im scared but I don't want to be a misshapen creature forever. I lost it once I can always cut again right?

First for fasting doesn't work

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AngloSperg
278.8

Had the runs something fierce this morning right before the weigh-in. Instant 1.5lbs loss from yesterday. I know it's all water weight, but seeing the number go down like this makes my brain tingle nonetheless.

>>76259970
I haven't been to the gym, but I've been doing calisthenics since I began losing weight last year and I am very happy I've been doing that especially the more weight I lose. Seeing muscle development as I lose weight has been a strong motivator for me to continue with my efforts.

>>76258824
kill yourself whether you are a shill or not

>>76259986
I've been lifting enough to have multiple day does shaking when I sit on the shitter. Trembling while finishing my last set in every muscle group. Im not even eating that much surplus I'm just scared by the jump in weight

so hungry...

>>76260036
eat some leafy greens you bitch

>>76260036
So stop thinking about it dumbass

>>76260036
kys tranny

>>76259974
this is why i always eat two bowls of cereal the night before a weigh in. first of all i wake up immediately against the clock. no rest for the wicked as they say. after laying down my first mulch poo i'll have about 10-15mins of movement before i go back in there for some extra tipping. after being up for half an hour i have dressed the toilet bowl down pretty swell and am ready for the stage

I take covffeeffee daily, any more tips to lose fat besides of caloric deficit obviously?

Doing cardio everyday perhaps?

>>76260036
I'm starting to think this guy isn't actually hungry.

>>76260092
1. Do cardio
2. Lift weights (on separate days from cardio)
3. Eat less (but keep your protein above minimum)
That's it.

>>76260092
yes. daily cardio if you can do it without burn out

>>76260096
>>76260098
Ok, gonna take walks more often, thx

>>76260092
Look online how much calories a man your size can lose just by walking. I can lose between 300-400 calories an hour depending on the pace. Great way to burn some calories without much effort!

>>76260036
I am a simple man
I see Umaru, I post Umaru

>>76260144
>I see shit, I post shit
Unironic monkey behaviour.

>>76260144
Do you have the edit of a deep make voice
>hey oniichan
Yeah onaru?
>I wish I had a big fat cocktail
*chip munch*

How to get a semaglutide prescription? My country only indicates this for prediabetes, can I fake being prediabetic?

>>76260185
You are obese, you are most likely prediabetic

>>76260185
Just eat less you insufferable faggot

>>76260186
Being obese or overweight is not an indication GPs or specialists are allowed to prescribe semaglutide for in my country (lame and gay). And I am not prediabetic.

>>76260188
Semaglutide is will make dieting 10x easier

>>76260190
You are prediabetic, fatty.

>>76260185
>get prescription for WeGovy which is indicated for obesity
>get gray-market peptides
>import it from India
Those are your options.
>>76260188
How do you think GLP1 work? This isn't like with DNP or clen where your calories out increase (significantly).

i drink on the weekends, so hopefully i have an adderal to cut out the food calories. it works sometimes

>>76260036
If you buy some lye you can make homemade baked pretzels and they are pretty tasty, you can dip them in mustard, maybe a fondue or cheese sauce, or even some whipped butter. They are especially great fresh out of the oven.

>>76260213
>eat lye

>>76260213
BEGONE VILE SPECTRE! SHOO SHOO! CRAB BEGONE FROM THIS THREAD!

>>76259971
Name one person who has gained weight while not eating anything.

>>76260258
Energy is not conserved in our universe.

>>76260263
So you can't name one person?

>>76260266
Any fat woman on tiktok who says she eats nothing but still gains weight. It's not like people on the internet would lie, right?

>>76260271
>people who lie are really telling the truth
I'm sorry that you can't answer a simple question and instead pivot to object nonsense. I accept your concession.

>>76260274
I won though. The universe doesn't conserve energy which was my original statement still holds true.

>>76260287
Didn't read.
The discussion is over. I'm going to hide your posts and replies now. Feel free to reply some more nebulous noncommittal nonsense, but I won't see it.

>>76260258
He means in the long term. Fasting, like most crash diets, isn't sustainable and don't teach healthy practices. No one goes into fasting as a long term solution to manage their weight, they do it to shed weight as fast as possible and then try to figure out how to eat right once they're skinny. Then they invariably yo-yo the weight right back on because they skipped over the learning how to eat properly part.

>>76260292
You are gay.

>>76260296
Healthy habits is a meme aswell. Fat people who have tried to lose weight for a long time know very well what foods are high in calories, protein etc. But it really doesn't matter because eventually conscious decision making is overriden by bodily cravings and you eat 10,000 calories in a single day.
There was an interesting trial once where they only accepted people in a Mounjaro trial if they managed to lose 5% of their original weight without any help beforehand so as to find highly motivated people. The treatment group lost a huge amount of weight, as expected of course, while the placebo group gained some weight.

>>76260296
I am agreeing, but that's not the plain meaning of his statement. Anyone who advocates for fasting long term to lose weight has an eating disorder or is promoting one.

>>76260057
bro Im a big, fat man with hairy balls

Happy weekend, frens. Stay safe out there.

don't give the anti-fast retards any attention. they're stupid, we know. they keep coming back because they get (you)s. at the very least force them to pivot to something else already for crying out loud.

>>76260322
I mean it does make sense to talk about the pros and cons of fasting. If you're young and extremely obese, not diabetic and your cholesterol is under control, fasting for multiple days with a high protein diet in between can be highly beneficial. If you're old, frail, thin, diabetic and have sky-high cholesterol, don't fast under any circumstances.

>>76260327
If you're in this thread, it means you're fat, which means that you can't control your food intake and don't have healthy eating habits. Going from eating too much, too frequently, of the wrong things to starving yourself is not a great way to develop a healthy relationship with food.

The only good thing about being a fat fuck is that pull ups and dips give you some nice gainz

>>76260332
Some of us are just slightly overweight and fuck "healthy relationships" with my food. It isn't my girlfriend and I can't fuck it.

>>76260339
You wouldn't be overweight if you could eat reasonably in normal portions.

>>76260343
Okay can I book a session with you so you can act as an intermediate between me and my food to save our marriage?

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>>76260332
This, fasting should be used to overcome plateaus, maybe to cleanse your gut, but as a long term diet plan for the majority of your life, its foolish.

>>76260372
Thanks for the sane take anon

Was out dancing last night and got 10k steps from around 3h of "dancing". Is this the way?

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timetolockin
209.86

>>76260392
>fun
>burns cals
Works for me

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ThisTimeForSure25
108.2kg
180cm

>>76259963 (OP)
In a rut bros. I’ve gotten sober and now I have nothing to look forward to. On my off days all I do, and want to do, is lay in bed and look at stupid shit on the internet and browse four channel. I was able to force myself to play vidya with the boys while they got drunk and high. The whole time I just was waiting for it to be an appropriate time to log off so they dont get upset that I’m a super fucking boring person now. I had to quit drinking for my health and now I basically just want to kill myself lmao I’ve stopped caring about losing weight, riding my bike, rooning, vidya, reading.. my life is literally go to work, sleep, go to work, sleep; with no fun or social aspect to it whatsoever. I’m 34 and have lost all of my friends. Have no girlfriend. Getting sober has ruined my life

>>76260450
Make a todo list, works for me. Food was one of the last good things in my life aswell but now on MJ I have no desire to do anything anymore so I'm just following the list me and chatgpt invented.

>>76260371
I miss when I could eat an entire rotisserie chicken and still be in deficit, getting close to goal weight sucks.

>>76260457
>make a to do list
There’s no point. I don’t care about anything anymore. I don’t even care enough to cry about it. Don’t make enough money to change my life. This is it. The yin and yang of not wanting to go to work, and having to. More than half of my consciousness now will be spent inside a building I hate, with people I hate. And I can’t even get fucked up to take a break. It will never end. I’m going to kill myself

>>76260460
Any tips on what changes you've made as you've gotten closer?
At the moment I've been working on my cardio endurance.
I know I'll never be able to out train a terrible diet, I'm hoping getting good at cardio will at least make it easier.

>>76260465
Don't ask for advice if you're just going to say I don't care about anything

how to make walking less boring and pointless feeling

>>76260474
Podcasts, audiobooks

>>76260465
Okay but if you end up not killing yourself, try out a bunch of SSRI until you find one where you will feel better. Life circumstances can't be easily changed but how you feel about them can.

>>76260477
I find those boring and pointless

>>76260474
(Post-)Apocalypse backgound music.

>>76260486
Oh, this might work in my shithole

>>76260473
Didn’t ask for advice once.

>>76260478
Been there done that

>>76260497
Apologies. Misread the post.

>>76260190
>easier
And when you stop?
>>76260205
And you need drugs to eat less? Just eat less you fucking woman. Waaaahwaaaaah my emotions control me waaaaah!

>>76260258
And when they get tired of starcing themselves?

>>76260501
>And you need drugs to eat less?
Long term absolutely.
>Just eat less you fucking woman.
Did just that lost way over 100lbs. Hunger eventually came back, saw weight climbing back up, went on MJ.
>Waaaahwaaaaah my emotions control me waaaaah!
We humans are animals. If you were a perfectly rational actor you wouldn't be a fatcel on 4chan.

>>76260505
What

>>76260315
I love big men with hairy balls but fat is gross

>>76260497
>Been there done that
Do it again. At this rate you will just end up feeling like shit for the rest of your life. If you had the balls to kill yourself you'd have done it ages ago.

>>76260507
>>>And you need drugs to eat less?
>Long term absolutely.
It's over
It's never been more over

>>76260514
I can get meds relatively cheaply and sometimes you just need to admit that you can't achieve something by yourself. Call it cheating or whatever I don't care, all that matters are results.

>>76260321
Shiiiiiit I'll try big dawg. How're the losses? Ngl im dr7nk eating a small chip big butclater I'll be on a multimile walk

>>76260339
Relationship meaning they're all or nothing they eat everything or starve and end up at maintenance

>>76260392
The real core workout is blackout curtains white girl club music and dancing

>>76260527
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfVCzQUXkmc

>>76260468
I just had to eat less. I use cronometer to track my food and it automatically updates my goal calories based on my weight. My scale syncs with it so it automatically updates when I weigh myself.

I set it to 1000 kcal deficit, my TDEE is 2161 kcal not counting exercise, so I've got a daily limit of 1161 kcals I can eat. It sucks, I know some anons tell you not to add exercise calories to your daily limit but I do, if the machine tells me I burned 611 kcals well I can eat 1772 kcals today.

Overrall my diet used to have more variety, but as I got closer and closer to goal weight it became a lot harder to fit my goals within the allotted calories and I've had to cut out a lot of the sides I was having. Berries, Fruits, snacks of any kind. Mostly just eating some kind of lean meat and a leafy green vegetable everyday now. When I hit my goal weight and start maintance I'll have a lot more calories to spend, maybe not enough to eat a whole chicken again, but I think I might be able to squeeze half a chicken in.

>>76260450
Find new passion and remember why you loved your bike

>>76260480
Take your dog with you, dogs love walks. Talk to your dog as you walk, pretend they're your friend.

>set out to not order any delivery M-Thu
>succeeded
>decided to get some fast food on Friday as a reward/cheat
>ended up just feeling really shitty after
was it really this easy to break a 3 year habit of ordering delivery every day? just not do it and then you start to feel shitty when you actually decide you want it?

Hey Anon with the digimon pedometer thing where did you get it? I swung by my local toy store and they didn't have anything like that, hit up my games store and they didn't either.

>>76260568
>pedometer

>>76260571

My back started feeling better and I figured I was being a pussy by not walking more so I went for another walk, up to 20k steps now for today, but about half way my back started hurting again and now its killing me. Anyone else's back hurt after walking around awhile? Is this common for fats? Going to lay down to take the pressure off it. Ow.

>>76260507
Im not. Im like idk 21 or 22 BMI. I pop in to help others reach the goal. I just stopped eating so much and found new happiness

>>76260587
Try this. Lifesaver.

>>76260600
Boomers sure love giving unsolicitated and useless advice.

>>76260606
Thanks, I'll look into it.

>>76260625
Good luck!

I haven't eaten in 3 days and I'm feeling pretty good. Lost 4 pounds. Now I'm not sure I want to eat. The plan was a 3 day fast and now I don't have an appetite.

>>76260630
Are you watching mukbang videos on youtube yet?

>>76260620
He's right. Just eat less, fatty

>>76260509
Starving yourself can only last so long before you burn out and absolutely need to eat, and then you're on a binge for at least a few days, which means for that week you're probably at maintenance, maybe even a little higher, which leads a lot of people to just give up.

>>76260632
I am eating less on GLP1 and losing so much fat mass. Shit is sooo easy and it doesn't even cost much here. In addition it makes people like you seethe and dilate which I see as an absolute win.

>>76260620
Im 25 you useless sack of lard.

>>76260634
I don't disagree.

>>76260637
Were you born on February 29th?

>>76260587
yes, I had back pain after I massively increased my cardio. Do something like this to help.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/adult-health/in-depth/back-pain/art-20546859

>>76260630
Yeah appetite loss is fairly typical on a 72-hour fast, but I'd recommend eating once 72-hours have passed, don't push it further than 72h. And you should only do a 72h fast once every other week or so. More than that and you start running into issues. Also you'll want protein, eat something light today, like a bowl of bone broth. Tomorrow get yourself a whole rotisseries chicken and eat it with some broccoli an a potato, rest of next week eat maintenance calories, then you can resume eating deficit for the week after that, then you can fast again the following week after that and repeat the cycle.

I know its tempting to do extended fasts longer than 72h but its really not worth it.

>>76260641
Are you a nigger with 85IQ?

>>76260653
Wow there gramps, watch the racism.

>>76260648
We'll technically I'm over 72 hours. By the time I eat I'll just be around 92. But if you say so. I'm stick to the plan.

>>76260635
I'm 20 bmi and aming for 10% body fat. I have burned 12 pounds in less than a week before, while not even behind overweight. No drugs being my crutch. You are weak. You will always be weak. When the drugs fail you, you will go back to what you are, a fatty. I conquered my human urges permanently. You have nothing I desire.

>>76260671
>No drugs being my crutch. You are weak.
Oh no some autist incel on 4chan has called me weak!!!
>When the drugs fail you, you will go back to what you are, a fatty.
We have 4 year trials and 20 years of observational experience showing that those drugs work indefinitely. And I will stay on them for life.
>I conquered my human urges permanently
LMAO you've been dieting for what, two months? Hilarious. The overwhelming majority of people regain all their weight regardless of method used within three to five years. Only medication can maintain weightloss.

>>76260630
Take it from someone who has fasted 10 days before, better to start small.
First day you feel hungry, second day you feel weak, day 3-4 you feel great, 5-6 is fine, 7 you start feeling weak again , which gets worse from there on out. There's nothing worth such extreme intervals unless it's a religious or spiritual thing. Stick to 3-4 days, refeed, then go again if you feel like it.

>>76260685
5-7 days of fasting is the time period it takes for autophagy to maximize in humans.

>>76260685
The first fast ever did was actually 20 days. I only made it 6. As far as willpower goes I would have made it but by day five I got sick and I broke my fast day six. Felt like I had the flu. Ever since then I've been sticking to three days fast but this is the best I felt since day four of my first one which is why I was thinking about going farther. But you've convinced me not to.

>>76260688
autophagy is overrated dogshit

>>76260682
I'm not the anon you are beefing with, and if drugs help you lose weight, go right ahead.
I think it's a lot because people equate a healthy body with a moral character, after all being fat shows a lack of restraint which shows a lack of determination, which is a form of weakness. If you can skip to the healthy body with drugs, then that also means you can skip to the appearance of moral character and that feels inherently wrong to them.
That being said, do you really plan to stay on them forever? I guess this is a personal problem of mine, but the idea of taking medication, no matter which, forever is scary to me. Same reason I never got how people did gear or fin.
Is it not an option to take it, lose the weight, stop taking it and then learn to maintain that level healthily, which is much easier than massive sustained weight loss? Or would that just repeat the cycle?

>>76260695
If you had flu like symptoms, there's a good chance you didn't get your electrolytes.

>>76260671
Don't waste your breath on him. He'll burn out of money or he'll get to be one of the unlucky few that see what happens when you're on this drug for decades.

>>76260703
>That being said, do you really plan to stay on them forever?
Yes I do.
>I guess this is a personal problem of mine, but the idea of taking medication, no matter which, forever is scary to me. Same reason I never got how people did gear or fin.
The thing is, you can take meds for XX years and if you suddenly feel like stopping you can just stop and will still have enjoyed their benefits for that time period. Think of them as a temporary solution that you forget about.
>Is it not an option to take it, lose the weight, stop taking it and then learn to maintain that level healthily, which is much easier than massive sustained weight loss?
Studies show that even the most motivated individuals regain a significant amount of weight when switched to placebo or taken off the drug. The impact on appetite levels is huge with those types of drugs. All those redditors coping about how GLP1 just help them make healthy decisions are lying to themselves. GLP1 makes them feel like they ate 5-10x their usual portions which is how they can't eat as much anymore.

>>76260708
Oh I was getting my electrolytes, my theory is I overdosed on salt. Combination of saltwater and beef broth. But considering how much weight I was burning it might have been ketoacidosis. I'm not diabetic but that is one possible theory.

>>76260709
>He'll burn out of money
It's cheap in my country.
>he'll get to be one of the unlucky few that see what happens when you're on this drug for decades.
I survived the Great Reset from being triple-vaccinated with the covid vaccine which you guys said would kill billions because of the microchips from George Soros and Bill Gates so I think will be fine.

>>76260520
If everything goes well on my weigh in tomorrow, I should have lost exactly 40lbs in 80 days exactly.

>>76260709
We'll you know. When he's having a liver transplant he won't be around. So best to tell him while he's here.

here is the question everyone is afraid to ask; does edging count as cardio?

>>76260716
Thanks for clarifying anon, I was just curious.

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Big Frigate
192.6 lbs

>>76260740
GLP1 have a protective effect on the liver and newer versions like retatrutide have even shown to effectively burn away all fat from fatty liver.
Why do you guys insist that there must be some negative long term effect from GLP1 when it has been used in diabetics since 2005 and been researched since the 1980s. You guys are petty as fuck holy shit.
Should I make a list of side effects from "natural" weight loss? People have died from dieting before did you know that? We should better all stay fat because everyone knows that being fat is just a cosmetic condition.

>>76260743
No, unless you are also moving enough to get the heart pumping.

>>76260727
Hell. Fuckin. Yeah.

Look at him reason like an addict lololol

>>76260334
>try to do assisted pullups and dips
>could only do 3 dips
>could only do 7 pull ups.
>machine was on maximun weight assistance.

>>76260740
>>76260753
>Surrogate biomarkers of NAFLD were also calculated and followed over time. Results. A significant decrease in anthropometric and glucometabolic parameters, insulin resistance, liver enzymes, and laboratory indices of hepatic steatosis was observed during treatment. Similarly, fat mass and visceral adipose tissue (VAT) decreased over time more than skeletal muscle and free-fat mass. US-assessed VAT thickness and the 12-point steatosis score also declined at T3 up to T12. Liver steatosis improved in most patients (70%), showing a reduction by at least one class in the semiquantitative US staging. Conclusion. Besides glucose control and body composition improvements, Semaglutide was effective in ameliorating the clinical appearance and severity of NAFLD in T2D patients
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9657108/

>>76260764
>In this phase 2 trial involving participants with MASH and moderate or severe fibrosis, treatment with tirzepatide for 52 weeks was more effective than placebo with respect to resolution of MASH without worsening of fibrosis. Larger and longer trials are needed to further assess the efficacy and safety of tirzepatide for the treatment of MASH.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2401943

>>76260769
>Here, in this randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial, participants (n=98) were randomly assigned to 48weeks of once-weekly subcutaneous retatrutide (1, 4, 8 or 12mg dose) or placebo. The mean relative change from baseline in LF at 24weeks was −42.9% (1mg), −57.0% (4mg), −81.4% (8mg), −82.4% (12mg) and +0.3% (placebo) (all P<0.001 versus placebo). At 24weeks, normal LF (<5%) was achieved by 27% (1mg), 52% (4mg), 79% (8mg), 86% (12mg) and 0% (placebo) of participants. LF reductions were significantly related to changes in body weight, abdominal fat and metabolic measures associated with improved insulin sensitivity and lipid metabolism.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-024-03018-2

>>76260753
Stop responding to me fatty.

>>76260774
Shut the fuck up you bumfuck retard. If you hate technology and progress so much get off the internet and fuck a sabre tooth tiger with your bare hands.

>>76260778
I can't understand you through your fat greased fingers.

>>76260781
Did your boyfriend cum in your ears or something?

>>76260568
nigger just download one of the countless pet apps from Google Play Store, that way you don't need to carry a pussy repellant with you at all times

>>76260802
Shill me one.

Fatty Contest
Greaser
93kg

>>76260752
Couple up and down weeks
The difference: huge anxiety uptick recently and started trying to get buzzed on a deficit this past month to deal with it

Massive weight loss really does start fucking with your head eventually
Trying to get in front of that now
I am still going to make it
All other habits are still there, I just keep pushing up to sedentary tdee with the drinks at the end of the day and try to rationalize it with "yeah but I'm exercising though"
So it's time to stop that

>>76260809
I've never used any, I'm from /pol/ and only aware of them because Jews, Chinks and glowniggers run these apps to train A.I. and gather intelligence, see https://www.pcmag.com/news/ever-played-pokemon-go-you-helped-train-an-ai-for-spatial-intelligence

>>76260823
>Habits
I don't think you can fast and keep habits. So either you are that fatty that's using drugs or you are not fasting. Or what you consider massive and what I consider massive are different things.
Either way if you gain weight you can fast again and force your body to lose any weight you gain back if old habits return. That's what they did in the past.

>Fasting
lmao

>>76260920
nta but using drugs mean I don't have to keep up any kinds of habits or lifestyle in order to lose and maintain weight

>>76260920
You're conflating me with someone else, didn't fast, ate 3MAD at around 1600-1800cal for close to 16 months now with daily exercise
Went from 5'9 410 lbs to 192 currently
If you're trying to advocate for fasting that is definitely not gonna work for me, it's not a lifetime habit I can keep up while smaller portions is

fatty contest

xocoadl

121 kg

>>76260930
>ate 3MAD at around 1600-1800cal for close to 16 months now with daily exercise
>Went from 5'9 410 lbs to 192 currently
Damn. That's incredibly impressive. You're honestly an inspiration. I've started on a similar plan yesterday, though admittedly my starting weight is a lot smaller. Hope it goes well and I can stick to it.

>>76260930
That's hardly even a diet. Fasting is so much easier. No one thinks they can until they do. It's just a question of how much you want it.

>>76260946
>That's hardly even a diet.
Exactly, it's not a "diet," it's a lifestyle change.
>Fasting is so much easier.
In short term? Maybe. Long-term it is much less sustainable.

I'm starting to see why they call them fastards

>>76260952
They are an offspring of the ketard community.

>>76260950
It's really sustainable. It's not like you can only fast once and that's it.

>>76260308
>But it really doesn't matter because eventually conscious decision making is overriden by bodily cravings and you eat 10,000 calories in a single day.
NTA. Part of learning healthy habits is finding ways to satiate the urge to eat large portions of palatable foods. Theres lots of intensely flavorful and filling healthy foods. Its good to learn what they are and how to acquire them in convenient and inexpensive ways as you lose weight. You can also accept your large appetite and use it to your advantage by lifting and doing cardio to fuel your muscle growth and cardio endurance gains. By all means though, use chemical assistance, I wont judge you for it.

>>76260334
Now that I lost weight, I get to add weight to my pullups and dips like theyre a giant swinging nutsack.

Do you take into account the energy needed for your body to digest the food? I mean, if you eat a diet rich in proteins your body consumes a lot of energy to digest it, so you need slightly more calories

Or am I just retarded?

>>76260989
>Or am I just retarded?
You are anon. It's not much for most foods, so just don't consider it.
Worst case you save another 20-50 kcals towards your goal, best case nothing changes.
If however you go the other route and end up being wrong you'll stop losing weight.

>>76261009
Ok, just wanted to know if that is something to have into consideration

>>76260450
Are you me? It's fucking brutal. I was completely, and I mean COMPLETELY useless for the first month which was first terror, then existential crushing boredom, then total apathy punctuated by random mindfuck sugar craving/binges.

Here is what worked and is still working for me. First I got a dunbwatch with a stepcounter like picrel. I started wearing it everywhere to get a rough baseline of my activity levels because I could not trust my own judgements of it. Buy one and start wearing it all the time.

Second, I stopped eating anything that wasn't meat, eggs, greek yogurt, vegetables, or fruit. Still am. Get cheap tupperware. Shred up rotisserie chickens. Dice up watermelons, cantalopes, strawberries, grapes, oranges, mangos, whatever looks good. Cut up broccoli, cauliflower, green beans, cabbage, onions, peppers, whatever you can choke down. Hard boil a dozen eggs at a time. Get low sugar high protein yogurts like Siggis, etc. Start drinking black coffee. Get good olive oil. Eat whatever the fuck you want but only this. Get autistic.

What happens will suck at first because like withdrawing from the sauce, you have to withdraw from "normal" food and all the horseshit in it. But you'll cut over in a week or two, and you'll feel it.

When you do feel it, time to literally fucking walk everywhere like a homeless nomad. This is your new "drinking" habit. You are a force of nature, part of nature, sent by God to collect random information about anything and everything. Walk through a park. Walk to the store. Walk through the store. Walk behind the store. Walk by nice houses, walk by shitty houses, walk to a school, walk near a creek, walk by a busy street, walk down a country lane.

Think about what you see and periodically summarize it to yourself. This way when you get into a conversation, you have an easy topic for autism
>yeah been walking a lot, step 8742 so far
>creek's looking pretty high
etc. Also 20mg melatonin @10pm + NA IPAs = almost real beer

>>76260334
If you can do a pullup youre not fat fuck tier tbqhwyfam

>>76260671
>I have burned 12 pounds in less than a week before
Here's a tip for the next time you lie. Shoot for a lower goal so it's more believable.

>>76261022
Isn't it possible if you were really bloated on the weigh in at the beginning of the week and lose a lot of water in that week?

>>76261029
>burned

>>76261032
Okay fair.

>>76260568
The pedometer is super overpiced and a limited premium bandai item. I dont recommend it. I recommend a digimon x. You can get it off amazon or ebay.

>>76261046
>actual tamagotchi
Nah, too much responsibility.

>>76261022
>>76261029
If that was the case you would put the weight back on. I didn't. I usually lose weight rapidly when I fast. Usually it's about a pound a day but that week was different.

>>76261059
They work very differently from a regular tamagotchi. Typically if you neglect them they dont die, you just get a more "evil" evolution. Theyre much hardier than a tamagotchi. They can also be paused.

>>76261046
How much did you pay for yours? Did you get it off ebay?

>>76261078
150 dollars and it was through zenintcg. They just reprinted them and they were going for like 250 before that.

Fatty Contest
Nevardo
179.2lbs

I feel like its basically time for me to drop out. I have a small bit of fat to lose, but I don't think my weight is really gonna go down much more, but more important I don't know if it should go down more.
I've hit the point where people I know keep doing the, "whoa dude, you should eat something" "you're like crackhead skinny!", which is hilarious when I still have little bits of fat on my stomach and legs

Either way, I appreciate all the help here, it was a massive reason why I actually lost all of this weight, so thank you. truly WAGMI/WMI

My kidney problems really have me spooked. I'll go to the doctor on monday so I'm not sure yet, but kidney stones seems like the most likely diagnosis to me right now. This has totally ruined my diet because basically everything I've been eating other than meat, eggs and quark is very high in oxalates.

Dark chocolate, matcha, berries, beans, dates, anything wholegrain, it's all on the lists of foods to avoid when you're prone to kidney stones. Also Coke Zero due to the phosphoric acid. Amaranth is ABSURDLY high in oxalates and I eat it basically every day, albeit only about 10 grams daily.

I think I'll just go full carnivore for a week or so and try to think of other things to eat in the meantime.

>>76261106
Yeah but how many if those people are fat?

>>76261106
some progress pics?

Walked for 45mins earlier today and just got back from shooting ball for 30mins, sweat a lot
Gonna make it bros

Fatty Contest
TheThrongler
67.7kg

Need to lock tf in before the month ends, probably have to lose another 10kg to get to 12-13% bf. Thinking of going back to PSMF, that was the only diet I was able to see my weight going down at least 0.5kg everyday.

>PSMF
lmao

>>76261142
you're not fat fuck off

>>76261018
Yeah more or less that’s what I’ve been doing. Long walks. Hiking in nature. On a bike ride now and decided to stop at the aquarium in my city. Felt nothing, left lmao I guess I’m depressed now

>>76261150
I'm not fat fat but I'm skinny fat with love handles and a disgusting belly at whooping 67kg 5'6

>>76261159
You don't have love handles schizo

>>76261159
Well you look better than me. I probably need to drop another 15 lb to look like that.

>>76261159
Youre fine. You just have a predisposal to carry lower back fat. Trust me, no one will care about it.

>>76261162
Yes I do, I need to get leaner

>>76261171
No you don't, schizo.

>>76261153
>Felt nothing
In a way, that's good though, you returned to baseline. It's not unreasonable that given some time this will go up a click to "mildly pleasurable"

>>76261171
You dont need to. You want to and thats fine.

>>76261142
>>76261159
The reason you're getting sperged on is because some actual fat people itt have your body as a goal, where they'd shift from walking and lower intensity shit at a substantial defecit to higher intensity "get jacked" mentality at a much more modest deficit, or no deficit (break even).

>>76261174
if those arent love handles then explain how I look like this at 57kg (10kg lighter) 2 years ago, the love handles were gone before I started dirty bulking like a fatty

>>76261202
kys faggot

>>76259963 (OP)
Finally got my rabbinic rites for future skin surgery... BMI papers pre-weightloss to prove it.
I went from 109.8 to pretty much hovering 99.5-100 range now.
So far just eating less and eating cleaner. (No snacks, sugar and stuff like that.)
Added some basic dumbbells no guides, just doing what I kinda saw others do on TV as a kid, curls lifting into a T pose and above my head, basic stuff. Only 3kg each hand cuz I only have muscle on my calves.
Now the issue...
WW3 is coming soon TM.
Any reason not to stop my health improvement journey? Currently I got hernias and shit too which I'm trying to fix.
I'm in Hungary and I'm afraid of getting drafted desu. as there is no age limit and I'm only 29 anyways.
Been unironically considering eating myself to death after the Iran happenings last night, but so far I didn't.

It doesn't help that I saved up like 6-7 months of my meager wagie earnings which amounts to like 5k €. Most money I ever had since I was a complete NEET from 18-27.
Now they say digital money is coming with an expiry date, I already had to download some digital citizenship app for some health related stuff...
Considering blowing it all on a new phone, crap ton of hard drives and a NAS to hoard digital stuff before they censor the net. I'll never have a comfy commie era "Kádár cube TM" with a rose garden in some rural village where I can be a hermit by saving up anyways.
Only positive news is that I at least feel somewhat of an improvement, but not too much.
I expect it to be mega noticeable once I'm closer to 90 or 85kg. Not visually just general well-being.

I'm demoralized as hell and I do believe for good reason.
How do you guys keep motivated with your goals when shit is actually fucked?

>>76261204
you should kill urself for trying to make fatties stay fat, go lose some weight, crab in a bucket fatty

>>76261207
Fucking schizo faggot

>>76261207
>>76261211
attention, /fit/ gay sex hookup in progress

>>76261065
Sure thing bud

>>76261206
Your fatty brain is trying to make up reasons to get you to pig out again anon, don't listen to it.
Go all in on nothing ever happens instead.
You're doomin' right now, and the antidote to that is going outside. You'll realize the birds are still chirping, the people are still enjoying themselves in the parks, your neighbors are still decent people and life is going on.
Keep losing that weight, you'll feel better for it, and then you can enjoy all the nothing (tm) happening with a healthy body.

>>76261206
if youre jewish i hope they draft you first. fight your own war

>>76261107
Just get them to prescribe you Jardiance and you can keep abusing your kidneys without a care.

Goddamn I have been sleeping on shrimp.
>Frozen, so they last forever in the freezer and you can take them out whenever you need some
>Super lean, beating even chicken
>Good macros
>Very nice texture, very versatile
>Surprisingly economical
Truly a based food.

>>76261236
I'm Hungarian, but I guess that doesn't exclude me from being a jew. I'm not jewish.
I posted it this way because when I previously made a post about wanting to regain weight fast for a doctors visit some anon called it rabbinic rituals or whatnot.
Basically I needed to be officially weighed so once I'm done with the whole weight loss the healthcare I pay for will cover the skin surgery.
So the proper documentation is the "rabbinic ritual" here. Just a joke.
I really don't want to be blown up by a drone a year before I reach wizard status lmao.

>>76261234
Yeah this might be true. I had an easy start for some reason, no cravings no struggles, but lately I've been craving things really bad. Though the dooming still feels justified.
Maybe if they don't end the world in like half a year or so I will be fit enough to escape to an old abandoned building with some supplies.
So yeah losing weight might end up being the safer play.
The nothing ever happens mentality stopped for me after COVID and how people treated others. Now we had multiple real happenings that are starting to affect me.
I guess if all else fails and I kept going I can at least pass with one less regret or something idk...

>>76261260
How do you count calories on frozen stuff?
After it's done cooking or weigh before with all the "water" on them?
Had the same struggle with chicken as it's pretty wet and weighs a ton, but once grilled it's much lighter.

>>76261274
Youre not gonna get drafted I was just fucking around

>>76261281
You weigh the chicken raw always.

With fish and seafood it's slightly more difficult because it has a water glaze often.
Personally I just log it raw, my assumption is that the kcals at the back are for the raw shrimp, unless otherwise specified (like how sometimes it specifies the kcals are for the drained contents if liquids are involved).

>>76261274
>The nothing ever happens mentality stopped for me after COVID and how people treated others. Now we had multiple real happenings that are starting to affect me.
I'm not going to argue because I don't know you or your situation anon, but there is a strong correlation between not existing IRL (staying at home, chilling indoors, not having social contacts, not having hobbies outside your room) and dooming. Personally I think if you try to improve your life - in terms of physical fitness (weight, muscle, cardio) - but also mental fitness (working towards a goal, being balanced from day to day, not being depressed, having a social circle, getting therapy if needed) you'll be happier for it. And I promise a lot of the problems that seem so real and important right now will fade in importance.

>>76261290
Thanks. Had the same assumptions. Can't go wrong by over counting a bit, but under counting would be worse.

>>76261303
>not existing IRL
This hit hard.

I really need to go back to going to a weekly locals and playing yugioh with randoms.
I had a much better mental health when I did even though no lasting friendships came from it.
Good points. Thanks.

>>76261304
>Can't go wrong by over counting a bit, but under counting would be worse.
That's the spirit anon, ygmi.

>>76261308
Wishing you the best anon.

>>76261290
>You weigh the chicken raw always.
Why? Doesn't it make more sense to weigh the cooked thing when actually portioning it?

>>76261353
lmao ngmi

>>76261354
Thank you for the explanation, I get it now. Can't believe I was so stupid before, don't know where I'd be if you didn't open my eyes just now.

>>76261356
Yeah, you are gonna fail.

>>76261353
The kcals aren't given by god, they are measured in a lab - and for that they use the base item (usually raw).
That means if they measure how many kcals 100g of raw chicken have then that's the measurement.
As you rightfully said, if you cook chicken it loses weight, mostly water. That means the weight of the chicken goes down, but the caloric content doesn't - after all what left it is water, which has no calories.
So if you use the cooked weight as a measurement you're going to overshoot.
The reason they use raw as a base is because "cooked" has too many variables - what if I cook mine shorter or longer than you? That would massively change the weight, but not the calories.
Also >>76261354 isn't me.

>>76261353
>>76261365
Forgot to mention - if the item is pre-cooked from the packaging plant, so for example you buy chicken strips or something like that, then of course the base information is for the cooked item not the raw one.
The variability issue doesn't exist here because the average amount of done-ness is known from the factory, so they can give you a pretty good estimate.

I think i'm becoming a schizo about food, i want scale to go down so bad i'm afraid to eat......

>>76261365
>The reason they use raw as a base is because "cooked" has too many variables - what if I cook mine shorter or longer than you?
So you mean that even if I get the calories for the cooked food (usually comes with the method i.e. boiled/grilled/roasted/etc.) and I cook it without any additives it still isn't really reliable enough and I should instead weigh it raw first before cooking?
What if I'm cooking in batches, do I have to weigh the raw chicken first, then the cooked, then figure out the ratio of the weight lost and adjust my portions (counting the calories by the raw weight) by that ratio?

>>76261379
>So you mean that even if I get the calories for the cooked food (usually comes with the method i.e. boiled/grilled/roasted/etc.) and I cook it without any additives it still isn't really reliable enough and I should instead weigh it raw first before cooking?
It would be preferable and more reliable, yes. Then again it's up to you if you think that deviation is small enough that you don't care.

>What if I'm cooking in batches, do I have to weigh the raw chicken first, then the cooked, then figure out the ratio of the weight lost and adjust my portions (counting the calories by the raw weight) by that ratio?
Log the ingredients raw, cook it, then divide the end result by amount of portions. Getting it gram accurate after cooking when logging it raw is too much tism to be maintainable.

>>76261379
>What if I'm cooking in batches
Just total the calories for the entire batch and then divide it by however many portions you're making. It won't not be 100% accurate for each day but it will be over the course of the week.

Do I just have to accept that I'm going to be taking shits less when eating at a 700 calories deficit and cutting out junk? All I've been eating is greek yogurt, chicken, fish, broccoli and cauliflower and whey protein for the past 2 months. Before this, I was shitting twice a day, big full logs. Now its been nursing a single shit for 2 days that comes out in little bits and pieces

>>76261392
When I was deep into my diet I was shitting like twice a week after having daily ones before.
Exercise and fibre will keep your guts moving though.

>>76261392
Coffee, fiber and exercise will make your colon free.

>>76261377
Good, you're on the right path. For me nowadays getting that hunger feeling makes me horny, because I know it's working.

What are good fruits for fruit fasting other than banana? I can see myself getting sick of these in a few weeks

>>76261422
ChatGPT

>>76261428
Do it for me

>>76261422
The fuck is fruit fasting?
Anyways, grapes are kino. Tasty snack, sweet, you can freeze them for a cold treat.

>>76261401
Goddamit, I miss the euphoria of dropping logs

>>76261406
You don't need to tell me to drink coffee, I'm at 3 cups a day at this point. I guess I can try and find more fibre somewhere, but I really don't want to eat grains

>Decide to eat more today
>Eat an additional snack
>Eat ice cream
>Eat half a avocado as another snack
Feel utterly stuffed, still only reached 800 kcals
I feel like I might actually make it anons

>>76261228
I think I get why people with your physiology don't choose fasting. If I stopped eating for 3 days and all I had to show for it was one and a half pounds, I think I would kill my self.

>>76261518

>>76261392
Can't shit what's not there.

because it makes retards seethe, here is a reminder of why fasting is good for you:
When we eat:
>food spikes insulin, which regulates how food energy is processed.
>carbs are turned into glucose and immediately used by the body's cells, excess glucose gets converted into glucagon, and once the max has been stored, the rest is turned into fat (de novo lipogenesis)
>proteins are broken down into amino acids and absorbed, excess is turned into glucose
>fats are directly absorbed and have the lowest insulin response, can be absorbed in fat cells or the liver

when we fast:
>insulin levels drop and the liver releases glucagon to supply energy to the body. the stores are depleted after 24-36 hours
>the liver will then break down amino acids and produce new glucose (gluconeogenesis), enough for the body's needs
>low insulin levels stimulate lipolysis and triglycerides are broken into glycerol and fatty acid chains, which are used in protein synthesis and gluconeogenesis
>fatty acids are also used to produce ketone bodies, which fuel the brain. two types are produced: betahydroxybutyrate and acetoacetate
>human growth hormone (HGH) levels rise, which protect lean body mass
>blood glucose levels are maintained via glycerol and gluconeogenesis
>the majority of the body's fuel is supplied by the breakdown of fatty acids and ketones
>norepinephrine levels prevent a decrease in metabolic state
>some protein is lost but it wasn't being used anyway

when you fast, your body breaks down triglycerides into glycerol and ketones, which it uses for energy
when you fast, your BMR doesn't drop
when you fast, the body preserves LBM and muscle
when you fast, HGH rises and adrenaline is used to release glycogen and facilitate fat burning
if you're concerned about gallstones, then just do shorter fasts (>72 hours)
there's no reason to dislike fasting
there's no reason to be afraid of fasting
except that people can't use it to make money off you

>>76261552
>fats are directly absorbed and have the lowest insulin response, can be absorbed in fat cells or the liver
If you eat 100% fat you will still gain body fat on a calorie excess btw.

my tits hurt

>>76261580
Ywnbaw

It's in lbs.

Let's go boys WAGMI

>>76261580
if you post them they might stop hurting.

How do you all faggots+ deal with the mental fog? Like the stomach cramps and shit from hunger I can deal with. It taking forever to fall asleep I can deal with, but the fucking mental fog is killing me.

I'm self-employed in a field that's fairly mentally taxing, and trying to get 8 productive hours in a day is already ass. But then I get home and my brain just refuses to do anything for the rest of the day. I used to enjoy creating art and playing chess, and if I try either now my mind is just blank as I stare soullessly ahead.

I can do some physical shit, I can get my steps in or hit the gym, but anything that involves using my brain in any meaningful capacity is just impossible. I think this might be what people on antidepressants feel.

Do yall niggers just lay in bed or watch some absolute garbage on netflix for 4 hours a day or what the fuck?

Around 1000kcal deficit fwiw.

>>76261662
Take multi vitamins, fish oil, creatine and electrolytes and sleep 8 hours a night, thank me later

>>76261685
I take fish oil, vitamins, and get around 8½ hours of sleep a night. I can try creatine and electrolytes, but I can see no feasible way they would impact mental performance.

>>76261662
As this >>76261685 faggot says take 'em, will take 3 weeks to kick in. Also consider a micro snack like an apple and 25 minutes of just laying with your eyes closed, even 2 minutes of semi-weird thought having lucid semi-sleep will put a spring in your step.

>>76261691
You don't understand what creatine and electrolytes do. Trust the plan. Also try and get 3L of fluids a day.

I don't get this general
Are you guys just...not eating

>>76261718
Yeah, the title is to keep people away, but your opened the door. We are food deniers, we dont believe in it, its not real. We eat air.

>>76261662
Electrolytes literally fix all of that.

>>76261722
>We eat air.
That's for the weaklings.
The initiated get their nutrients from butthole tanning. I don't even need air anymore, I've held my breath for 2 years

>>76261737
>>76261685
What electrolytes do you guys use that wont fuck things up in the long run?
Currently I just drink a "sports drink" that is like 40 calories and I feel more alive than ever each time I have it.
It's a new addiction after quitting energy drinks after like 2 decades of use.
It genuinely makes me feel significantly better. Don't dare to drink them every day though... could be bad for some organ idk.
Any suggestions?
Preferable something I can buy in bulk and cheaper. These sports drinks are like 2€ a bottle. Converted to my currency that is enough to make it hard to justify.

>>76261739
Needs more than just sun, as the land of the rising sun taught us

>>76261749
if you eat a decent amount of fruit and veggies, especially leafy greens, your electrolytes sort themselves out. Spinach is basically a super-food. Fruit isn't too bad calorie-wise and veggies and leafy greens are super low in calories. Eat a big leafy green salad every day during dinner.

>>76261749
I just buy an electrolyte powder, it's like 60 servings for £10 or something. Mix that with creatine and essential amino acids into a shake and take that shit daily. Makes me feel amazing.

>>76259963 (OP)
5'9" 185 lbs, estimated 24% bf
Been fighting to stay below 200 lbs for probably years now. I've made good progress the last 2 months, I think. I just need one last push to get me into the low 170s before I'm comfortable. I'm tired of being fat and seeing a second jaw in the mirror whenever I tuck my chin. Only intend on doing this diet for about 2 weeks before I increase the calories to a 500 deficit and ride into 165.

I gave myself some allowance for fruits and veggies, and I will also be taking a Flintstones vitamin every morning.

>>76261777
>I will also be taking a Flintstones vitamin every morning
HURRY TIMMY THE SCHOOL BUS IS COMING

>>76261772
Maybe once I have enough money and a car for frequent store visits I'll consider this option.

>>76261773
There is one I found reasonably priced that has pic rel as ingredients. Does this look good to you?
Also amino acids, do you mean the omega 3 fish oil capsule things? I can get creatine from those muscle stores.

>>76261787
I like the flavors.

cutting sucks lol im like 2.1 weeks in

>tfw could have been my goal weight already if I didn't give up last year
how do I get over this self-hatred I feel? i don't want it to get so bad that I turn back to food to escape these thoughts

>>76261814
you just need to get to the point where you stop allowing yourself to make excuses.
>I hate myself
is an excuse
>I am being sabotaged
is an excuse
>the world is against me
is an excuse
>I wish I had a better support system
is wishful thinking

you must give yourself no quarter, while also acknowledging that you will suffer. it's an inevitability and there's no way around it. that or you can take a drug to mitigate the pain but it's going to cost you which is a different kind of pain innit.

>>76261773
Give us a qrd of what to look for in one that doesn't suck.

>>76261662
Just like, sprinkle some salt in your water, and make sure you don't look at screens for 2 hours before bed, 30 minutes of sun every day! And don't forget to supplement le magnesium and fish oil :3
... Truth is, you're just at your limit. Pretty much nobody is capable of doing real work for 8 hours, then hitting the gym and getting any actual results, then going home and maintaining a family and staying in touch with all their friends, and then devoting a meaningful amount of time and energy to a hobby like painting and playing chess and studying philosophy, and then getting 8 hours of quality sleep, but yeah I'm sure you can do all that while also starving yourself if you take a multivitamin and drink some Gatorade lol. It IS possible with stimulants, but you aren't brave enough for that.

>>76261792
NO, NIGGA. THAT IS SHIT! You need magnesium and potassium for your brain to work. potassium is extremely difficult to get enough of even if you eat to bulk, but if you take too much of it you may have a heart attack so every supplement doses it way too low like yours there. Get a potassium only supplement and don't exceed the daily allowance. Also get some good quality magnesium like the malate variety, citrus acts like a laxative and is barely bio available but is the most commonly sold for some fucking reason.

>>76261814
As all naturally thin people love to tell us, obesity exists because fat people are bad people. They are lazy, gluttonous bastards who can't put down the fork. So since you are still fat, you must still be a bad person.

>>76261814
No one succeeds without failing a few times. Youre just one setback closer to making your goals.

>>76261864
There is a fair amount of potassium in meat anon.

>>76261866
>As all naturally thin people love to tell us
shut the fuck up with that whiny bullshit. With the rare exception of people with hypolipidemia where they literally can't store fat, there are no naturally thin people. They just eat more appropriately than fatties.

>>76261880
Naturally thin people have the appetite of a small dog. Fuck you.

>>76261885
>wah wah I have no self-control, I have the agency of a flatworm

>>76261890
Naturally thin people do not have to exert self control, they do not suffer from hunger pangs, they don't care about lifestyle. They just don't feel any appetite most of the day. Again, fuck you.

>>76261876
Okay I was exaggerating a bit but you still need to eat 3 pounds of meat to get your daily.

Any advice for losing weight when a part of me likes being fat and finds it arousing but the other part of me acknowledges that i feel like shit physically and would feel more confident in my facial features if I lost around 40-50 lbs

>>76261901
>me likes being fat
Are you American?

>>76261910
Yes and I have a fat fetish.

>>76261915
Well you must be happy like a pig in shit then.

>>76261919
I am but I also want to lose some weight and go back to being merely overweight rather than morbidly obese. But it's hard to motivate myself when I get turned on eating and being this size.

>>76261901
>fat woman america
:(
>fat woman japan
:]

>>76259963 (OP)
Intermittent fasting is working really well for me and my autist brain likes the routine and structure of it.

>>76261898
if you eat an 8 oz chicken breast and a banana you have gotten like 1/3rd of the recommended daily potassium. Incidental fruits and veggies tend to have a lot of potassium as well. If you eat mostly whole foods and variety of them it is very hard to significantly deficient in any nutrients or electrolytes

>>76261954
While I think extended fasts are bad for weight loss because it will also lead to significant muscle loss as well, Intermittent fasting and OMAD are great. It is an easy way to restrict calories and also you get some of the metabolic benefits of extended fasting without having to take the negatives of muscle atrophy.

>>76261989
Eating 100% clean every day is extremely difficult though. I didn't say it's impossible. Get off my case.

>>76262006
What do you normally eat each day?

>>76262011
Your mom's ass.

Walked near the chips and snacks section in a supermarket today and the thought of buying and eating that shit didn't even cross my mind

>>76262019
Sure, thats why you totally thought about it and even posted it like a proud little fatty

>>76262021
You're just jelly fatty

I'm 600 calories below my limit and just drove to the soft serve ice cream shop near the lakeshore before it closed.
It's a 1 liter tub. I'll need the lord's help for this discretion

>>76262042
>It's a 1 liter tub
what the fuck? And people think Americans have disgusting portion sizes?

>>76262042
Crush up some ice in a bowl and pretend its ice cream.

6' 238lbs, goal weight: 200lbs.
Lifting 3 times a week and doing cardio sessions 3 times a week.(650 calories burned per cardio session)
Estimated TDEE: 2774 calories.
Daily caloric cap: 2100 calories.
Planned caloric deficit: -674 calories.

Is MyFitnessPal an accurate measurement tool for calories and macros? Could it possibly be overestimating my protein consumption? The reason I ask is that I'm uploading my weighed and consumed food to the platform, but chatgpt and Google gemini are calculating vastly different results.

Food intake:
200g of cooked basmati rice
450g of cooked egg whites
400g of cooked extra lean ground beef

Myfitnesspal:
Calories: 1200
Protein:177g
Carbs: 57g
Fat: 22g

Chatgpt
Calories: 1374
Protein:156g
Carbs: 57g
Fat: 64g

Gemini:
Calories: 1158
Protein:145g
Carbs: 59g
Fat: 36g

>>76261107
my mom got rid of hers by drinking lemon juice mixed with olive oil. she's big on natural remedies. good luck. don't feel bad, it can happen to anyone. you might even enjoy your new diet. also, you don't have to give up those foods forever- even now you can just eat them less frequently or in smaller portions.

don't feel foolish for trying to lead a healthier life. your body will heal and you can still achieve your goals. i remember you saying that you shouldn't be giving people advice about what to eat. i disagree with that opinion. we often learn a lot more from our mistakes than from our successes.

>>76262015
Beans also have a tremendous amount of potassium and are really cheap and easy to fit into almost any diet daily.

>>76261518
when you've only got 20lbs left to go, 1.5lbs is a lot.

>>76261718
this is a support group for people who can't not eat.

I started at the end of April at 278 pounds and today I weighed in at 258 pounds
I'm happy with my progress so far, but I still have a long way to go.
Thanks for reading my blog

>>76262057
You can buy a $5 cone for a single serving or buy a 1 liter tub for $15. For the sake of eating habits, it may have been smarter to just have the cone and then go home but I thought I may as well buy the tub and stick it in my fridge

I usually lift 6x a week and do cardio 3x a week, Sunday has been my resting day but I've been feeling lonely lately from all the indoor cardio, might go for a walk tomorrow to just look at nature and appreciate the world, only issue is that it's kinda freezing outside.

>>76262067
can you not check the nutrition info on your food?

>>76262119
Fat nigga logic. Spend less if you know you are going to eat it regardless. The moment you paid for it you committed to those calories so why not get less if the goal is to eat less

I am extremely stressed right now bros
Food is like my only comfort
I dont think I have the strength for life right now I have to eat something

>>76262154
Nothing feels better than being skinny

Fatty Contest
BeefyWeiner
188 lb

>>76262161
I need some comfort and I have nothing else right now
Sorry bros forgive my weakness
Better times are coming I hope

>>76262088
Let's go AnoN! WAGMI

>>76262161
Imagine making that meme, being that obsessed. Lmao

>>76262185
I didn't make that just saved from /fit/ a few months ago

>>76262123
MyFitnessPal is accurate on the egg whites for macros.

It is not accurate for the rice unless the packaging info is calculated uncooked and MyFitnessPal is calculating cooked.

There is no nutritional info printed on my extra lean ground beef

>have overnight oats in fridge for breakfast tomorrow
>keep pecking at it
I'm NGMI

>>76262154
i decided to eat less meat today and it's been a struggle to stay under my TDEE. maybe you should cook up some lean ground beef or steak with onions and just eat that. that's what i usually do but i know it's best to have a balanced diet and i've been going too hard on the protein lately. it's very satisfying. i think i'll make salmon tomorrow if i can find a good deal on it.

>>76262154
Do not eat, do not consume alcohol.
Consume anything with zero calories and stimulant or sedative properties.

>>76261084
I'm buying one. Thanks.

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Fatty Contest
Ponponpon
262.5lbs

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