Why does everyone on this board pretend 225lbs on any of the lifts is nothing, as a natty? That is legitimately weight that you can hurt yourself with or even die from, and I'm speaking in terms of being natty, if you're a roider then don't talk

Genuinely curious why the moment you say you bench or squat 225 for a few reps max, you get called a jeet, third worlder etc.

>>76264278 (OP)
>bench 225
strong
>squat 225
not strong
simple as

Cuz if you lift or put in any effort you'll realize how pathetic those numbers are.

I was 5'11 150 pounds, only able to bench 95 pounds for 5 reps and squat 135 for 8 and unable to do a single pull up. Completely out of shape nerd who just played video games for 10 years getting 0 exercise. It only took me 8 months of 6x a week PPL to get to a 215 X5 bench, and a 240x3 squat and I can now do 16 full ROM pull ups.

Any amount of dedication for less than or around a year should put any young adult close to or above those numbers.

>>76264278 (OP)
2pl8 bench is solidly intermediate. 2pl8 squat is the high end of novice. 2pl8 deadlift is nearly untrained. The fact that most normies will never see these numbers in any of these lifts just proves the average person is subhuman.

>>76264278 (OP)
Well it certainly isn't the big number that beginners think it is. I'm literally at 1/2/3/4 all 5x5 now and I still look skinny

They're good lifts sure, and you'll be stronger than probably 80% of other gym goers, but it's nothing amazing. I wouldn't say you're truly a big dog till you can bench 3 plates (as long as you do so without being a 300lbs lardass)

>>76264278 (OP)
100kg bench is literally the benchmark of intermediate lifter, as in 1/2/3/4.

So if you non-competitively, you are a good lifter.

>>76264280
this

>>76264278 (OP)

Because they are regular gym goers and have inflated expectations. 85% of people don't go to the gym. 75% of those that do go just run on a treadmill or fuck around with exercise machines with no real plan or drive. A 225lb bench easily puts you in the >95th percentile for strength, because actually showing up to the gym and staying consistent with your program is extremely difficult for the general population.

>>76264280
this a 200lb squat is normie tier strength.

>>76264535
try 99.98 percentile for 225 bench. you forget there are entire continents where no one can bench this, 50% of people are women, and 70% or more of the west is fat.

>>76264535
This is so true

Just look around next time you're actually in a gym, just as you said most people are doing low intensity cardio or dicking around on machines with no intensity

225 bench is legit rare, you're fucking strong if you can do that

>>76264535
This is completely true. However, OP did say "any of the lifts" and 225 on squat or deadlift is not impressive. You should be able to reach 225 squat within like a month of competent training, and a typical man should be able to deadlift 225 untrained, in all honesty. At most just needing to show him how to set up and pull it.

But to your point, this is why we really should make a differentiation between proper training and "fuckarounditis". Yes, most people in the world don't exercise whatsoever, and of the small portion that do, most don't bother with any proper programming, don't care about the main compounds, don't care about learning proper technique, etc. But lmao2plate bench is still an INTERMEDIATE milestone, because it's something that is very attainable to any guy who actually spends just a little time practicing and training. The fact that the overwhelming majority of people don't bother doesn't change this.

I get that statistics say like only small percentage of all gym goers can bench 225, but it's a shit comparison.
Like others have said, most gym goers are quitters, complete retards with no idea of how to work out, you have to compare yourself to dedicated lifters which probably is like 10% of all gym goers. Don't compare yourself to gray masses, compare yourself to people with brains if you see yourself as someone with a brain. Then 225 becomes pretty mediocre. Intermediate. I was able to bench 225 for 3 in my first 4-ish months of lifting @ 6ft1 195lbs.

>>76264586
>You should be able to reach 225 squat within like a month of competent training
JFC this board sometimes.

>>76264593
Shaka, when the walls fell.
I did.

>>76264551
Comparing yourself to people who don't lift is dumb.

>>76264569
That's because most people don't care or try to. It just takes 1 year of benching 2-3 days a week eating at a slight surplus for 99% of young healthy men to bench 225.

>>76264589

This guy gets it.

>>76264596
Care to post body? Oh wait you won’t because this board is full of retards who only bench 225 in a video game

>>76264291
manlet boasting about his numbers

>>76264633
Not sure why I'd be boasting about novice level lifts but knock urself out lol

>>76264593
??? are you retarded that's really reasonable.

>>76264596
>be 300 lbs lardass
>squat 75 % of body weight
>"everyone should be able to squat 225 lbs within a month, as I did"

>>76264652
kek

>>76264646
you're a dumbass, unless you're a former athlete or a big person, that's not happening.

Test

>>76264674
both, cope just because your genetics dont allow you to get strong fast doesnt mean everyone is like that

>>76264694
if you're going to speak generally, don't get to treat exceptions like the norm.

>>76264697
cope

>>76264278 (OP)
they also lie about how tall they are and their success with women. the thing you've got to understand is that most of the people on this board are underageb& highschool boys looking to get swole. they give shit advice and have zero life experience. then there's that 0.1% of the board that are adult males who know about fitness and share their wisdom. most of them are homos though so you've got to tread carefully with their advice.

because everyone on fit is 6'3" 200 lbs blonde hair blue eyes

>>76264694
look at strength standard tables. only for obese people is a 225 lbs squat achievable within weeks of training.

>>76264820
lol obese people cant even squat body weight. there are no people who are completely untrained (yes playing sports is training) who can squat 225 in a month

>>76264820
how does it feel to hage the reading comprehension of a middle schooler?

Some of y'all really need to run a strength program and eat if u think these numbers aren't easily attainable

>>76264905
they arent going to some of them are genuinely retarded

post girlfriend

I’m I a cuck for benching more than I squat?

>>76264278 (OP)
people lie on the internet

>>76264278 (OP)
>Genuinely curious why the moment you say you bench or squat 225 for a few reps max, you get called a jeet, third worlder etc.
Board is full of:
-People who committed to lifting because they are generally unsuccessful and so they flaunt their numbers and make fun of anyone weaker
-Demoralizers who don't even lift
-People who want you to hurt yourself.

Ironically you have to be smart to take advice from strangers, to know who's full of shit.

>>76264278 (OP)
If you're a grown ass man with no physical disabilities these are easily obtainable within a year of lifting. If you follow a good routine and diet.

>>76264278 (OP)
Because this board is full of dyels who think "2pl8 bench" means bouncing it once off your chest while your non-while buddy spotting you does half the work lifting it

>>76264586
>we really should make a differentiation between proper training and "fuckarounditis"

I miss pre-crackdown PWOs. Physically impossible to fuck around on DMAA.

Noone has said 225lbs ohp is nothing.

>>76264278 (OP)
So, this is a thread where you try to convince other weak people to band together and pretend you're not all just weak and failing to live up to your physical potential?
Seems pretty sad.

>>76264981
225lbs ohp IS nothing

>>76264586
>You should be able to reach 225 squat within like a month
If you're a manlet. Squat is approx. 1:1 with femur length.

>>76264996
so you're implying being a manlet is superior interms of strength?
i dont think you thought this through

>>76264999
>so you're implying being a manlet is superior interms of strength?
i dont think you thought this through
Short bones: more force on the weight with same muscular strength, and bonus, you don't even have to lift it as far.

>>76264999
manlets have any easier time as beginners because they dont have to move the weight very far. only when you have significant muscular development does the smaller frame lose out since it cant hold as much total muscle

>>76265005
you're again implying that being a manlet is superior in terms of strength

>>76265006
see this is a good response

this(>>76265005) is just retarded

>>76265010
>>76265012
It fucking is superior in strength. Look at Lu Xiauyun (iirc) and his 11" femurs. Klokov has short legs relative to torso. This is well known and you're coping.

>>76265014
>the guy who is saying that being a manlet is superior for strength is copeing by saying being a manlet is superior in terms of strength
reading comprehension + retarded

>>76265020
>reading comprehension + retarded
How ironic, since he was accusing me of implying it. This isn't even debatable. Get the triple beam balance at the middle school you go to, and put a weight farther out on the beam. Number higher.

>>76265026
>implying

>>76265026
>Get the triple beam balance at the middle school you go to, and put a weight farther out on the beam. Number higher.
And since you have a learning disability, your hip joint is where the weight is, and your femur is the beam. Longer femur = weight farther out.

>manlets that are stronger than me exist
>therefore i must be angry

>>76265039
>manlets that are stronger than me exist
>therefore i must be angry
You're so stupid you must be angry 20 times a day because you don't understand anything that happens.

Someone said 225 within a month is easy, and I just corrected them, because it fucking never is if you're 6'4" with long legs.

>>76265043
you're so fucking retarded

>>76265045
no u

>>76264278 (OP)

It's not nothing, but it's not meant to be an end goal either. It's like 100,000 dollars. If you have good job, you'll make that in a year. But most people will start out making much less, so it might take you a little longer to amass. And then even when you hit it you'll still need more if you actually want a nice house, or whatever.

>>76265055
>ad homoman

>>76264712
Where do Indians and beaners fall in

>>76264589
>I was able to bench 225 for 3 in my first 4-ish months of lifting @ 6ft1 195lbs
You are fat and have short arms.

>>76265251
195 at 6'1 is anorexic

>>76265260
>t. fatty

>>76265260

>>76264593
You guys will say this and then shit on SS and SL without seeing the irony

>>76264299
>Well it certainly isn't the big number that beginners think it is. I'm literally at 1/2/3/4 all 5x5 now and I still look skinny
no you don't

>>76264278 (OP)

Anyone with any sense realizes it is easier to squat 750lb ass to grass than it is to shoulder the weight of our feelings. If my 120lb squat looks light, then that's because you can't see I have the weight of the world on my back too.

You can run from the truth, but can you shoulder it? Most go to the gym because they can't. Most power lifters and body builders are actually the best cardio athletes. You didn't know that? Well, they've been so unwilling to consider their hearts, they've been running from them their whole lives.

Want to be the strongest man in any room? Move the weights you can and ignore the rest and you'll have already arrived.

>>76265302
Take your meds.

>>76265269
If you're this unfunny and uncreative I honestly suggest you stop trying to make jokes. It will make you far less hated by the people around you

>>76264586
>>76264646
>>76264694
You are wrong, retarded, and just trying to stir shit up. I implore you to post your body on this board. You won't, because you're a 500lb hambeast who is full of shit and is spreading misinfo because you have nothing better going on in your sad, pathetic life you waste of fucking oxygen. God you make so fucking angry. Somebody who has never lifted a day in their commenting on things they know nothing about, setting unrealistic expectations for potential newcomers just because you are SAD and ALONE.

>>76264593
>>76264674
>>76264849
You are right, honest, and virtuous. You have no place being on this website. I am starting to lift again after a long absence. My highest previous squat was 285 5x8. Just now getting into it again and I am repping 135 4x10. Having experience lifting, I know that I am not going to see 225 for reps within one month. Not with any decent form or technique or without risk of injury. Instead of a captcha, you should be required to submit a pic of your fucking body to be allowed to post. So many goddamn LARPers on here.

>>76264950
Sadly this
This board attracts a lot of terrible posters who use it to vent their personal issues
My least favorite are the guys who go around calling everyone 'fat'. I imagine they all don't work out and are immensely fat themselves and hate it so go around spewing it at others.

>>76265327
It was a statement of fact and not a joke thougheverbeit.

>>76265339
>>76265275
Kek, fat.

At 6ft1 and a "normal" BMI of 22-24 I was 175-180lbs and looked anorexic, legit twink, victim weight. Pic related, me 10 years ago at that weight when I was 18-19.
I know for a fact I was around 175ish in this picture because I was deliberately trying to gain weight. Now at around 195-200 I still look relatively skinny.

You are a manlet for sure if you think 195lbs is fat.

>>76265396
>belly sticks out past pecs
>lying about weight
lol

>>76265396
Have you ever stepped on a scale? That is clearly not even close to 175

>>76265396
gross

>>76265333
what fhe fuck age do we live in where 225 is impressive
what the fuck happened to lifting?

>>76265419
225 on squat used to ge considered baby shit did all the heavy lifters die of a fucking heart attack or something and leave you people behind.

>>76265423
Literally no one in this thread said to go lift heavy from the get go
go work to a heavy weight if you worked to 225 and that was hard for you, okay that's fine, good job. But do not act like there arent people who cant lift that shit like it's air because you just look fucking stupid

>>76265396
This is skinnyfat above 20% retard. You were fucking fat.

https://youtube.com/shorts/SivuEYkbgfA?si=SA3oaWi3LQD8lEzi

>>76265439
not me, just posting this to end this dumbass argument of needing to be fat to squat 225 or over.
Go lift

>>76265402

I have, these are the pictures when I started doing "home workouts" and was going from 76kg to 82kg by eating. That's why I said, I know for sure I was around this weight in these pictures.
Rn @ ~210lbs. I bench 130kg (286lbs) as 1rm and look dyel as fuck. I don't have a six pack and I'm not shredded like a dry raisin, but I'd say I'm far from fat.

You are probably really short if you have this warped perception of weight. If you are 5ft6, 195lbs will be fat kek.

>>76265396
you dont look anorexic, you just look skinnyfat
And of course that's a normal bmi, what the fuck are you really this stupid?

>>76265452
read the thread dude lots of retards in this thread

>>76264278 (OP)
225 bench 1rm i still looked considerably weaker than i wanted, still feel shitty at ~315 1rm desu about looking like my ideal/natural peak. Roiding is for quitters, it took me pver a year to get correct form on flat bb bench and im legit very high iq like i was a candidate for going to college for math in middle/highschool.

>>76264278 (OP)
One time i was jumping with 225 but i realized i could have paralyzed myself on carpet with socks or at least broke my leg

>>76264278 (OP)
You probably wont even be good before benching 225 since if it takes a while you suck, im almost putting more weight on my incline and military press because i can actually use diet/programming tweaks since im actually building size/density where i want.

>>76265848
>takes a while
If youre under 150lbs homestly its a jump in long term systematic fatigue so fast gains are more difficult to maintain linearly

>>76264280
>i am strong and not strong at the same time

>>76264280
225 sucks youre high 405x1 is half the world record

>>76265451
why did you paint your arm white?

>>76264278 (OP)
I want to be able to curl 225 on the preacher

>>76265419
There's a gigantic difference between
>squatting 225 is impressive
and
>you should be squatting 225 within a month of training.

>>76265281
>SS and SL
Even if you do a squat heavy routine and add 5lbs every single workout 3 times a week on SS/SL, you'd have to start on 165 to reach 225 after 4 weeks.

You're absolutely delusional if you think the majority of untrained men squat 165 for reps on their first day at the gym.

>>76265396
>this is considered anorexic in the US
if you're surrounded by hamplanets and your gym consists of powershitters I guess this will look incredibly small.
but that's just a normal non-overweight body. it could even be a lot leaner.

>>76265451
this picture doesn't show anything. if you really want us to compare the bodies, show another shirtless pic.

ITT: I learned that i'm weak. I can only bench 225 for 4 reps and squat 6 reps att 225. It's fucking over, it took me 6 years to reach this.

>>76266242
Why is your squat so low compared to your bench?

>>76266303
I can't get my squat up for some reason

>>76265852
Youre so close to figuring out different muscles with different strengths exist

>>76264278 (OP)
>Why does everyone on this board pretend 225lbs on any of the lifts is nothing, as a natty?
Because this board mostly consists of roiding manlets

>>76266308
maybe the reason is that you're not training it

nothing but liars on this board it takes like a year to go up 25lbs on bench

>>76264694
>You should be able to reach 225 squat within like a month of competent training,
If you start at 115 and add 5 lbs a workout and squat 3 days a week it should take you 18 workouts or 6 weeks. A more realistic rate, squatting twice a week and maybe adding 10 lbs the first couple workouts instead of 5, would be 10 weeks. So 2.5 months for a normal guy who is committed to it.

>>76265400
Looks more like poor posture. Not seeing a lot of fat

>>76265437
You are such a retard. I wonder what you look like

>>76265451
>Rn @ ~210lbs.
You literally were just saying 195 lbs

>>76266626
i've been ohp 125 since march
my reps have not gone up
but you're saying i'm supposed to be doing
155 right now???
this is steroid talk

>>76266626
finally someone who actually lifts

>>76266677
where in his post did he mention ohp. Not all muscles are created equal.
If your legs have weak lifts something is wrong.
Your legs literally hold your body up they should be strong.
OHP and upper body lifts not being comparable is normal

if you bait people like that they'll go up too quickly
maybe like 2 squats a week 1 deadlift a week for 4 months would get you there...

>>76266639
I was 195lbs when I started weightlifting and hit 225 bench for 3 for the first time. That was like march(?) last year.

I stopped going to the gym for a few months at the start of 2025 due to overwhelming things going on in life/work and now started back up.
I'm 210 rn (95-97kg fluctuating). I do 112.5kg 3x8 flat bench and 42kg db incline bench (30deg) for 3x8-10 currently.

I did gain a bit of fat and lost some of the strength I had, but I've gained it all back by now. I'd say I'm far from fat. I look pretty skinny. I just have a bit of retard strength I guess.
I don't think someone who looks like me should be able to push that much weight. I see bigger looking men struggle with 225 for 5 while that's just part of my warmup.

>>76264319
>100kg is intermediate
Delusional. You should look up the word "intermediate." Because you are currently implying that benching 90 kgs/200 lbs is "beginner" and that means you are retarded.

>>76264291
>8 months of 6x a week PPL
tbf that's pretty intense dedication

>>76266312
Youre so close to figuring out I dont lift

>>76267033
>>76267019

NTA but I think it is a beginner weight?
My first day at the gym I did 70kg 3x6 bench and I was VERY weak.
I had this excel file where I was keeping track of my workouts. Have a screenshot of it.

26 - I hit 1pl8 OHP
35 - I hit 2pl8 bench.

I was chasing numbers like mad tho, doing low rep ranges (4-6) just to get to these numbers.
Anything that can be done within first year is very much so "begginer" tier, no? Assuming you lift for life.

Most men should be able to bench 90kgs for 1 rep unless they are completely onions, desk job IT nerds and their starting point is 40kg.

>>76264278 (OP)
It's a matter of perspective. 225 bench is nothing to me, but then in my adult life I've rarely weighed less than that. Anything less than your own body weight is not impressive (unless you're like obese or something).