/fraud/
Do an actual cycle you faggots edition
No trt is not right for you
No one here lifts or does the steroids, just fyi, we are all natty

read leddit/r/steroids/wiki before asking noob questions

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>>76265376 (OP)
Im 2 weeks post my first test only cycle. Only noticed any increased hair loss in the last few weeks and it's already stopped.

Does anyone take fin just while they are blasting? Or is that a dumb idea?

>>76265503
Never used it but oral seems less than optimal vs topical
But yeah ppl use fin only on blasts, pretty normal since fin has its own set of sides to worry about

I'm cutting with 1 gram of gear and I'm realizing it's dumb

>>76266873
I cut on
200 test
400 mast
3-6mg retatrutide
early this year, and it felt like it was overkill, also my e2 was zero

>>76265503
>>76265376 (OP)
Steroids, whether taken orally or applied topically, can sometimes trigger or worsen deep, painful acne by affecting your hormones or irritating your skin (cystic acne). It’s one of those trade-offs where the short-term benefits might mask longer-term skin complications.

Your skin deserves gentler allies—so go easy on it, yeah? You’ve only got the one face, one body, one soul (yes steroid breaks your relationship with God).

>>76266886
Did you get levels checked? My E2 never budges on mast but seems to stop the E-related sides from running high test

I started taking testosterone approximately 3 years ago, and I noticed I started gaining an attraction for men, but I never found myself to be attracted to other guys sexually.

I’ve experimented with men, before and after transitioning, but not after my first testosterone shot. and it wasn’t enjoyable, but, after my first shot I started gaining an attraction towards them, although, I am more attracted to females (i think).

I have been in multiple relationships and was sexually active with cisgender females before taking testosterone. I don’t see how anything except the testosterone could have affected me.

Did anyone else experience this profound realization?

Cant find primo anywhere should I switch to mast?
Mostly scared of hairloss but I never experience it from test var and primo so far

>>76266909
>profound realization
It's called frying your brain with the neurotoxic effects of blasting test.

The same thing happens to crackheads and trannies. They "realize" they were always gay but in fact they just messed up their brains with drugs.

But yes it's common amongst roiders. There's a reason that being on steroids was synonymous with being a fag 20-30 years ago.

>>76266906
Yeah i felt like shit but also was on a suicide level deficit for a few months so didn't think much of it, periodically did refeeds etc.
Got tested at the end of it and test was 1150, e2 undetectable
Could've been mast since it sort of blocks aromatization or the heavy deficit or both 2bh

>>76266909
>>76266963
nattycuck samefagging

What compound made you feel you were on roids? Test alone isn't cutting it

>>76267919
steroids grow muscle faster, they dont "feel" like anything

>>76267919
Test above 500-600 for me, dbol, anadrol, tren, and ment

>>76267919
Halo,
anything that converts to dht, which includes test and most things
Easier to list what doesn't: low doses, low e2, low dopamine from deca or tren
My advice is try a higher dose of test, masteron or proviron
Dbol, anavar and tbol could work too, though the last two are pretty mild
It's dose dependent and often compound+person dependent

>>76267933
Are you a primo boomer, trtfag or just a legit natty? Very homosexual either way

Where in the fuck do i order legit test in EU (bulgayria)????? im not even asking for pharma grade just shit thats not fake/10 years old

>>76266916
If those didn't then mast probably won't either, get mast p(shorter ester the better) and stop if you notice shedding
Easy peasy
Mast is stronger and will be harder in lipids than primo obv
sorta subjective because then you get into the effective dose rabbit hole internet roid nigger slap fight

>>76268123
says the fag who gets low dopamine from deca.
You're a primocel.

>>76268161
Yea that sounds smart, if I notice shedding I'll just stop.
I'm only on 250 test I think Ill start off with 200 mast p

I'm not sure if I got gyno or not can I just run Raloxifene either way even if it is in my head?
Best case scenario it works, worst case I waste time and money? Or does it have bad sides?

>>76267919
tren, everything else is barely noticeable.
>>76268432
If you have gyno, actual hard tissue gyno. You'd need surgery, you're probably just higher body fat and holding more water. Just get AI, ralox doesn't really do anything.

>>76265376 (OP)
anyone know if deus medical is a scam or legit? im seeing mixed reviews on forums

>>76268257
>no, gear doesn't affect mood
>I'm not a primocel, you are
Okay bro whatever you say, any thoughts on cystic acne?
lol
lmao even

76268714
if real reseller then legit

>>76266873
I started my next blast just a week ago with 2-3 more weeks left of my cut and I'm mixed on it. On one hand, I feel like I'm wasting gear. On the other hand, going from cruise to blast tends to raise my tdee significantly from my experience, I can worry a lot less about losing muscle, and it gives the longer esters time to saturate before I switch to a surplus. Also no longer looking flat which is nice.

>>76268907
Doesn't it take like 6~ weeks for everything to peak in the blood anyway

>switch to daily injections for this cycle
>no more acne
>not even a single pimple
why didn't anyone tell me before

I came off 125mg per week trt more than 2 weeks ago. I fucked my wife on Saturday and just jerked off today. Its gotta be out of my system by now right?

>>76269985
I was occasionally fucking my wife when I was at 112ng/dl at 8am, so being at 200 all day is probably enough.

>>76269377
i would still stop the cycle because you know what they say... Essentially, it is known that Acne caused by steroids should be treated by stopping the AAS and by using treatments that anyone else would use for their acne.

Treatment also depends on severity and type of acne you are experiencing, there are 3 grades: Mild, Moderate and Severe.

Not everyone should be treated the same. Whether or not you need accutane will depend on the 'phenotype' of your acne.

Some people are immune to accutane and it wont have any effect, in those cause the cystic acne become permanent and the addiction to AAS will only worse the condition until they become desirable to fatties (pizza)

Why am I thinking of fucking the new girls that joined at work?
I WFH and never saw them just heard their voices lol... being high test is weird

>>76270536
Do it but ask them if they have cystic acne first
You don't want that on your dick

>>76269995
Depends on what your wife looks like.

Say you take test suspension once, does it shut you down for as long as post cycle? That can't be right, can it?

first for cystic acne and decadick
im a pro athlete, i only use little bit of test btw

>>76271173
Nah just a few days to rebound most likely
Probably
Maybe

>>76271629
Wouldn't this be very efficient and sparing for athletes? Guarantee your PR and recovery from it, then get back to grinding. not to mention the drug tests. This is probably basic stuff isn't it.

Help i crashed my e2 last week and i am feeling fucking awful

I was getting a bit of anxiety and i thought it's an e2 spike when in reality it was probably a bit low and the 0.25 arimidex probably tipped me over the edge into crash territory

Haven't slept for a week, heart pounding, never felt so anxious in my life, at the same time also worried about getting addicted to ambien, beer helps probably due to estrogenic hops but again can't be pounding a crate every day until i remake the e2

How long does e2 crash recovery take?my last arimidex dose was a week ago, it probably is getting closer to cleared out by now and then gotta hope my body remakes the e2

>>76271681
It's what athletes supposedly use but it's not really efficient specifically you'd want high levels to recover in the days and weeks after not just for a day to PR
It's more a way to dodge testing protocols afaik

>>76271748
r/steroids/wiki has some good advice
Stop arimidex and wait a few days, if you also took aromasin it gets more complex
You need dbol or something that will aromatize to e2 quickly because aromasin doesn't just suppress like Arimidex
or if you taking EQ, masteron or proviron then lower the doses or stop since those either act as weak AI or compete for aromatase access
Natural e2 replacement takes a couple weeks

>>76265376 (OP)
On my first cycle, been injecting in upper outer glute, getting a bit of swelling above my upper inner glute

>>76271775
They aren't in it for efficiency, they are trying to get around drug detection.
if a handful of winnies gets them and extra 3% it's worth it

my guy is out of regular Test-E250mg
I will not make the mistake of using E400mg again. good value but painful, i get bumps on my injection sites!

Should i got for GSO Test E 250mg? or Sust 250mg? There is also Test C200mg but that's less potent so I would need more.

I'm just on perma cruise/high TRT for medical reasons.

I am also considering using Clenbuterol to lose a bit more fat, has anyone got experience using this?

i've been taking 8mg of ligandrol for 4 weeks now and i have to say the results are underwhelming. some study had 1.2kg lean mass gain over 3 week period (with only 1mg dose) for sedentary people with no diet change and that's also about how much lean mass gain i have over 4 weeks (maybe even less than that). the pumps are definitely better though at least. i just expected bigger and easier improvements considering it messes with your libido and suppresses your T that much.

>>76273563
If your primary concern is discomfort from injections, GSO Test E could be worth trying, since some find it gentler on the body compared to the regular Test E or Sustanon. However, if you like the simplicity and stability of Test-E, sticking with the 250mg variant would probably work best unless you’re looking for faster results (in which case, Sustanon could make sense). For steady TRT, Test-E is usually your safest bet, just make sure to rotate injection sites and use proper techniques.

If you’re already prone to acne or had issues in the past, you might want to prepare with proper skincare and consider speaking with a dermatologist before starting TRT or fat-loss compounds like Clenbuterol.

Also beware of the cystic acne that will appear since it can be more than just a cosmetic concern—it can have some serious consequences on both your skin health and overall well-being.

be safe and remember to take your accutane

>>76274080
250mg has never been an issue, 400mg was

Attempted three orders so far at the start of the week and nobody has replied me back with the bank info so I can send the transfer.
Are all EU domestics going bankrupt or what?

>cystic acne nigger giving advice
/fraud/ version of the human centipede
lol
lmao even

>>76268988
for cyp/enan yes

>Hello, ADL? Please help, the A.I. is being antisemitic again

>>76275293
Maybe AI overlords won't be so bad

Are there any trusted chink international sources now or did they all go MIA?

best roids for increasing head size?

>you cant make gains on 250mg
then how do /fraud/tards explain this guy making massive gains while doing 250mg only? yes I know him irl

>>76276152
He weighs less than 200lbs and is short

>>76276152
Gaslighting at its finest, my bro
Typical roider flex
>my genetics are so good I barely even need gear
>runs 1g test and tren plus hgh and everything else under the sun
Utter bs

>>76276160
no, I know he was on 250mg only because he was my roommate for a while and we trained together, I was also on same gear as him at the time, some people are just hyper responders and there's no reason to start with 500mg, my blasts are like 400mg max

>Guys who blast gear but then skip leg day so they have superhuman-sized lats and shoulders but toothpick legs
Why would you do this? It’s like cooking dinner for yourself and throwing away half the food every single night

>>76276172
The reason low dose test is shilled so hard is trt clinics can only legally prescribe 300
There are many reasons why 500 is a good first cycle and anyone using the term hyper responder should be looked at with great skepticism

>>76276177
>Go to gym with friend
>Have to let him decide what we do and what weight we lift because I'm too retarded to figure it out myself
>Shoulders and back must take up about 90% of every session
>Never once done legs with him
>Ask him about legs
>"Shoulders look best bro"

Not sure how much longer I can keep this up.

I've got a bone fracture or some shit in my right metatarsals. Would mk-677 help accelerate the healing or should I just go straight bpc-157 into the bottom of my foot

>>76276444
MK-677 and BPC-157 can help, but they work differently.MK-677 boosts growth hormone which helps healing but takes weeks and affects the whole body and can cause cystic acne, water retention, and appetite spikes. Good for long-term support but slower. Tho the risk of cystic acne might destroy your confidence forever because of permanent scars.BPC-157 speeds up local healing (soft tissue, maybe bone too) and works faster. Inject it subcutaneously near the injury (top of foot or ankle), not the sole — that hurts like hell.If you had to pick one, go with BPC-157 for faster recovery. You can stack both if you’re committed. But either way, get the foot imaged to make sure it’s not worse than it feels.

Been doing sublingual dianabol for a while and I'd say its been going good, bloats the heck out of me though. Today I also tried sublingual turinabol and man this shit gives me so much endurance and energy I just start running randomly like a retard now.

>>76265376 (OP)
Gaymes Hetfield

at what point does TRT become a cruise?

10k steps done

>>76276989
Once your actual blood levels are out of reference range, you need an AI or you add another compound. Simple as

>>76277186
Wouldn't that be a blast?

anyone tried SRY?

>>76278131
SRY Lab’s steroids almost certainly cause cystic acne, especially at the doses typically used for performance or physique enhancements. If clarity of skin matters to you, this is a major downside to factor in. Remember that cystic acne is permanent and terminal condition, this is why Zyzz killed himself but little people know about that

Hey guys, pussy here. After test + anavar what compound has the least sides?

>>76267919
500mg test was good but especially 750mg test

Was the Michelin Man tho lmao

>>76278212
Don't give yourself cystic acne, bro
haha
>tbol, masteron, primo

Had these vials of Test E for over a year bought from a reputable supplier that I've used for a long time with no issues and used some of these perfectly fine. Only reason I have so many still is cause I ended up coming off. Planning on going back on but they've yellowed somewhat.

Would they be g2g still? They were kept in a dark container in my bedroom so not exposed to light/heat. Completely clear without any floaters either.

>>76276989
The only time TRT becomes a cruise is if you start doing blasts because cruise dosages should be TRT levels.

Some people like to pretend their 200mg PW is a cruise dose, but obviously it's not.

>>76278684
you storing those suckers in the sun? kek

What is the base oil?

>>76278706
No idea. They were a lot lighter before but they still had a yellow tinge so I'd assume GSO maybe

>>76278718
just ask your dude what carrier oil he used.

MCT is the goat, rip GSO.

>>76278718
GSO spoils faster, shelf life is the lowest of all carrier oils.

>>76278684
Those are fine, some oils turn yellow because of oxidation, mainly low quality vials. You can still inject them but it has less potency than before.

I've been on 700mg tren for like 2 years straight lmao.

>>76279087
No you haven't

>>76279093
I have. I mostly like it for the psychological effects. Makes me a horny degenerate.

>>76279354
But your don't even have a gf

>>76279577
I have a wife and a gf.

My total testosterone is 4.4 ng/ml, which is low but not low enough to get a doctor to give me test. So i have decided to start a self prescribed trt. Should i just go with 250 mg per week forever or is that too much?

arimidex absolutely shreds my hair. I dont know if its because of my source or i am some type of genetic freak, but I lose more hair on a 400mg test blast taking adex than I did in the past when I blasted (throughout different blasts):

400mg tren
100mg winstrol
50mg sdrol
500 test (no AI)

How the FUCK can I lose more hair on 400mg test with adex than when I did 250mg test and 100mg winstrol with no adex??? Or the tren??? I have literally experimented and within a matter of DAYS of stopping arimidex, my hair stops shedding

I dont want to take that shit any more. What can I pair with 250mg test "TRT" to counter some of the unwanted aromatization? Unfortunately due to my genetics I aromatize EXTREMELY easily, I had gyno during adolescence and even 300mg test without adex makes me uncomfortable bloated

>>76279626
Try aromasin.

>>76279622
just do 200

>>76268432
there are no sides to running the anti-gyno ralox protocol for a week
idk what the other anon is on, ralox nipped it in the bud when I started to grow pointy nipples

>>76278131
Yes I just got my shit from them yesterday. It took over a month though.

>>76265376 (OP)
500mg testosterone base for a cycle, is it baby bitch territory? it put me at 2165 ng/dl
I've also been stacking dbol but that quickly jacks up my blood pressure
I've been up to 750mg previously. gonna cruise after this one

>>76279939
It's fine. I run 250mg test and 700mg tren. Added 25mg superdrol recently.

How do y'all accurately dose multiple compounds in the same syringe? When you withdraw from the second syringe technically you're withdrawing the amount of the first compound in the dead space of the syringe. For mine it's like .1ml. I do eod so it adds up over time.

>>76280033
If you're worried about it and your dead space is 0.1ml then just draw an extra 0.1ml you nerd.

>>76279705
That's what i was thinking about at first. But i only have ampoules and they have 250. Should i just throw away the remaining 50 or would it make sense to transfer it into an empty vial?

>>76279976
with how much more anabolic tren is wouldn't this be like doing 1500mg of testosterone?

>>76280090
>ampoules
Fuck amps. Every time I fucking break one glass ends up in the fluid. But it don't really matter. 250mg is fine if you don't have aromatization issues. It's not TRT, you're blatantly performance enhanced at that point. Actual TRT is like 100mg/week. Average male test production is 50mg/week.

>>76280137
Use a BD blunt filter needle

>>76279626
Equipoise, masteron, proviron
EQ probably the strongest and most likely replacement for a real AI
Start 5:4 test/wet compounds to EQ on blast then go to 1:1 depending on sensitivity
Only problem is its not great for a cruise
Maybe try proviron on a cruise dose, like 25-50mg

>>76280134
Idk maybe. It doesn't exactly translate cleanly. They have those anabolic/androgenic ratios for each steroid but they're probably inaccurate. I do it because I can cruise on it I don't have to use any AI and I tend to aromatize a fair amount. For blasts I often would use 1g test in combination with other shit.

>>76279087
Post body

>>76280148
I just don't get amps. I ain't got time to be fucking with breaking amps, trying not to cut myself and filtering it.

>>76280157
I'm the ghost of Dallas McCarver

>>76279877
Are they even tested or did you yolo it?
Do they have a new Discord?

>>76277186
Why would you take an AI without high E2 symptoms?
Why would have to add another compound because your test is above the natty range?
oh never mind you are just retarded

I want the ultimate recomp and I believe tren ace will get me there (test base of course)
I don't have a single fucking striation or vein on me, I just want to be fucking peeled and big, is there anything wrong with taking tren at a higher bf (18%)

>>76280794
>recomp
lol there's people who still think this is real

>>76279626
Test 200 Primo 100
Titrate Primo

>>76280569
I’m not the retard here. My point is that if you need to add AI because you have high e2 sides or if you decide to add another compound for whatever reason it’s no longer trt. Even if you don’t need AI and you’re only taking test but your total test is like 1500 ng/dl it’s also not trt. Retard. Trt is just test and keeps everything within physiological limits, above that is a cruise. The quality of poster in /fraud/ has really declined quite a bit recently.

>>76280794
>Bros will tren give me veins at 18% bf

Lose another 5% bodyfat and you'll already be there. Yes tren, mast, winny can hope you look more vascular, but doesn't matter if youre not even remotely lean to begin with. Get the tren if you want, but just do a serious cut with it. Glp1 is a cheat code for cutting anyways

>>76281093
trtfags are insufferable
if you're into building muscle, you cruise you don't trt. you add your test and aome other benig compound like eq, mast or primo. It all depends if you're a manlet or not, your weight. It's all about keeping your gains

>>76281364
>It's all about keeping your gains
*dies at 45*

blasted 350 test for a month, bumped it up to 500 for 6 weeks and just went back down to 350. Read to end my cycle and switch to a 150mg cruise dose. Do I have to taper down to 150?

>>76276177
Not even gonna lie, on my cut ive been completely neglecting my legs. Im actually getting fuckin chicken legs. It aint good.

>>76278212
Eq, but if youre fat the high blood pressure might scare you. Or mast like that other anon said. I love EQ. Definitely adding it to my next blast for the endurance gainz.

>>76280056
You're not getting it
>withdraw .5ml single compound
>actually .5ml in syringe, .1ml in dead space
>inject
>.5ml into body, .1ml left in dead space
Vs
>Withdraw .5ml first compound
>.5ml in syringe .1ml in dead space
>Withdraw .5ml second compound
>now a total of .6ml first compound and .5ml second compound across syringe and dead space
Obviously it'll be mixed enough given enough time assuming same carrier oil, but it still raises a couple questions
>How long does it take for each compound to mix enough to be evenly distributed across both syringe and dead space
And
>what's the best way to draw to ensure you get the ratio of compounds you actually want. Assuming perfectly mixed you're still injecting .55ml of first compound and .45ml of second compound. If you do daily or eod injections this can add up to a significant difference
Would it be easier just to alternate first and second compounds or just math it out and draw .5ml less of the first compound?

>>76281765
Draw .05 less not .5 obviously

>>76279595
How the fuck do you maintain this? Ive been doing it for like 2 months and its impossible. Im only on 480 tren/wk do o have to go up?

>>76281781
not that anon, but try different doses. a gram was too much for me. 350 is comfy. bloods are good. just cruisin

>>76281858
Lmao I mean a gf and wife, im fine on my tren dosage

>>76281874
oh haha! shop around. low maintenance helps. always be busy (work, golf, drinks with the boys), second phone line app, or app that hides texts. or if you landed a trad.wife, just don't tell her shit

natty or not? everyone is saying this is HGH
>>76276741

>>76281765
Dog, it just don't matter.

>>76265376 (OP)
been doing 18mg s4 + 30mg cardarine for 3 weeks and i already mog most roidtrannys, was training for 10 years natty before. 1 week left of my cardarine and I just doubled the s4 dose yesterday to 37,5mg per day. And no I don't have any vision sides, they might come around week 5 tho but probably not on my low dose. thx for listening

>>76282653
Cool story bro
The comparison should always be you vs you though, not some fictional roidtranny meme

76282653
>I mog everyone here but wont post body
Also the only people that use the word "mog" are dyel incel lookism losers who never "mogged" anyone in their life

>>76281781
I just see the gf once a week and fuck her throat, cum inside her etc. Rest of the time I'm just doing my own thing.

>>76282725
shut the fuck up retard and go back to r3ddit.
you speak like a fat dyel

>>76276273
this

>>76282644
I just did the math and honestly you're right bro. Difference between 500/500 and 545/455 not even worth worrying about. Will still probably alternate first/second compound because I'm autistic

The more gear I take then more I want to sleep and rest
Annoying as fuck
Makes me think steroids are bad for my health and i shouldn't be taking them
haha

>>76265376 (OP)
I'm pretty fat rn around 25+% is my guess at 115kg and 186cm
Should i cut to let's say 100kg and then start my first cycle? Or start now?

My goal is strength and sports performance

>>76284911
Also been lifting a while now, 200kg squat, 155kg clean, etc
Lifetime natty. I olay American football, oline

>>76284911
The fatter you are the more you'll have to combat aromatization and high e2
AI is worse for you than most gear and adds extra cost which could be spent on more useful things like more gear
Also if you can't manage your food and schedule without gear then you probably won't with it either
Plenty of fat asses roid though so do what you want
If you do then buy extra AI
Or cut on a cruise dose + a glp1 for a few weeks if you decide to lose weight first and absolutely have to inject yourself with things

>>76281364
Personally I cruise on 250 test and 150 primo (plus 100 npp depending on how my joints are feeling) but the question was where to draw the line between trt and a cruise. Not sure why it’s triggering you so hard buttercup.

>>76284783
It's cuz you're growing.

>>76267919
Superdrol, sdrol is what normies think all steroids are like. Instantly bigger muscles and big strength boost. The downside is it makes you feel like crap in 2-4 weeks and you have to come off it and lose all the temporary gains.

With sdrol if you are eating enough carbs, hydrated and have your electrolytes on point you will blow up in a few days. Give it like 3-5 days and it feels like god has turned the gravity down and everything is lighter.

my favorite shop closed down. no more ment and viagra paid with venmo. tragic.

>>76286325
I feel your pain
My go to domestic ugl doesn't carry caber
I hate weird international sources unfortunately

>>76276111
library

>>76285985
Maybe, I was thinking more cortisol or dopamine issues

What the fuck bros I'm freaking out. I injected my triceps 3 times each and they have lost all the definition, they look like a random fatass triceps. And I'm cutting.
They look completely flat with 0 striations and I've always had gnarly triceps
Is it oil or what?

>>76286620
Injected with what and over what time period
Also what's your cutting cycle

>>76284946
Thanks nigga

>>76280150

>store is out of primo and mast
>has a "cut stack" bundle which includes em
>order it
>automatic email sending me payment details
>wait and ask them if they're actually in stock or not
>"haha sorry they're out of stock, make a new order"

Good thing I didn't fucking pay.

>>76287878
Noice, finally an AI that knows

took 5mg anavar sublinguily pre workout by itself for a few days and it killed my libido and made me anxious, came off it and the next day fekt way better with lidibo back to normal, could it really be suppressive at such a low dose? do you have to at least run hcg or enclo along with it?

>>76288063
Is that where you shove it up your ass like butt chugging a beer?

>>76288079
yeah man

>>76288063
its not being absorbed sublinguily rettard. Its dissolving in your mouth and you just end up swallowing it.

Holy shit does equipoise make me hungry
Never eaten until I felt sick so often without trying
Good stuff

400 test 200 primo 50 var sound good for a relatively healthy fake natty blast?

>>76289076
Yeah just don't expect anything huge
That's the trade off

>>76289076
I did this but 500 test and 300 primo instead
Also you can't run the var for the whole duration unless you plan on blasting for 2 months only which is too little. Add it in the last 2 months

>>76266909
Test boosts your sex drive in general so its probably just that. Fortunately there is a near 100% proven effective treatment for people with your issue.

>>76286638
test and eq 2 ml each arm 6 weeks
my triceps look like a meatloaf, I can't even flex properly

>>76265376 (OP)
why are some people so proud of sticking a needle in their ass? even 16 yo kids at my gym do it buddy. it does not make you tuff lol

>>76290189
Why are some people so proud of staying natty and pathetic all their lives?

There's some weird shit on FR meso

I'm a fatfuck that has tried weightloss for years to no avail.
Should I take DNP?

>>76288180
wrong, anecdotally guys who run orals very often recommend sublinguil, clinically the research shows a sharp and acute spike in blood levels when adminstered sublinguially, which is why guys do it pre workout

>>76291111
Try tirzepatide first homie.

>>76291165
That shit is expensive nigga.

>>76289076
Var isn't worth it imo, save it for the cut. Why primo? You'd get more out of just bumping the test up. Primo is weaker than test, and if you're just running it for e2 modulation that's retarded. You may not even get any AI modulation from primo. Bump the test up and just use an AI, imo. Eq/nandrolone are better second compounds.

>>76291175
I got a month's worth for $80... If that's expensive to you get your money up

>>76291182
Where I'm from its 300€ dude.

>>76291111
You want tirzepatide like the other anon said. DNP is actually mediocre. GLP-1's actually work.

>>76291184
You order it from china. There is a whole subreddit and associated discord dedicated to this.

>>76291184
That's pretty expensive but I almost guarantee you can find cheaper. Sorry I wasn't too helpful in my initial post but basically a glp-1 is gonna be much better for you than anything else. Sema is usually a lot cheaper if you can't find a cheap tirzepatide source. I'm a former fatfuck and still have a fatfuck appetite, so I can relate a lot to what struggles you're probably having. Fat burners (generally stuff that makes you burn more calories) don't address the root problem and that is hunger signaling. You'll probably just be hungrier on them. That being said, dnp is probably the nuclear solution for fat burners. Yohimbine or clen are more user friendly and don't have the unfortunate side effect of a ugl margin of error being the difference between an effective dose and death.

Glp-1s are absolutely the new gold standard. I tried them and now I refuse to cut without them. It's night and day, you can literally turn your hunger off.

>>76291632
>Fat burners (generally stuff that makes you burn more calories) don't address the root problem and that is hunger signaling.
Yep. GLP-1's are basically the "magic pill" everyone has been searching decades for. Just raising your metabolic rate is pretty weak and largely not effective. It's the lack of eating that matters. And GLP-1's kill your appetite.

Frankly I hope their usage becomes widespread. No more fatties.

>>76265376 (OP)
Is it worth to do 500mg of test + 200mg of deca a week? Or deca should be only taken above 400mg?

>>76290922
What the fuck am I looking at? Why is this unnamed oral packed as a cheap kickoff of a bacon flavored snack?

>>76292178
You'll get benefit from any additional amount of anabolics you add. It's not like your body is gonna go "uh oh, you only injected 399mg of deca this week looks like it's doing absolutely nothing". Adding 200mg of nandrolone to 500mg test will get you significantly more gains. Adding 200 to like a 1500 test 1000 eq cycle would probably not move the needle much

>>76285064
that's a solid cruise, why would I be triggered, Vladimir

Is there anything I can take/do to keep deca from wrecking my heart long term? I respond to this stuff like it's GigaChad extract and I never want to come off.

>>76292663
Heart health is primarily blood pressure. Take blood pressure meds.

>>76290922
>>76292183
5mg dianabol. Back in the 90s they were from thailand and commonly called "pinks". Was good shit. Came in bottles of 1000 labeled "Anabol"
I have idea about it now.

>>76291162
that's nice but when you crush up a pill and stick it under your tongue its not get absorbed sublinguily. Most of it you just end up swallowing.
That;s just how it works in real life.

>>76265503
I did fin just while on T. Though I will say I’m pretty sure it led to me loving dildos up my ass. I wound up stopping it since it gave me terrible dry eyes. YMMV

>>76281093
Wat. Some people take AIs at like 140mg a week dawg.

I want to start a SARM cycle but I'm a total beginner. I've been looking at rad140 in particular. What's a good test base to go with it? How long should the cycle be? What's a good dosage?

>>76287878
Which AI is this?

How much test for fin to become ineffective? 300mg? And dutasteride only protects you from hair loss that would come from test, right? But is 90% effective at it?

>>76292663
Steroids aren't some magic black box that cause heart problems for inexplicable reasons. Keep an eye on your blood pressure and hematocrit, mainly. Work on your diet as to where lipids are not completely horrible on blast and amazing on cruise. Do your cardio.

>>76281093
This. You can cruise on trt dosages, but it doesn't have to be trt dosages to be a cruise. Some bigger guys need more anabolics to maintain muscle on a cruise

>>76292909
If you can't answer those questions yourself you need to go back and hit the books. Badly.

>>76292882
Yes, at which point they’re not really on trt. Also, they could probably eliminate the need for the AI with daily injections. This isn't really debatable btw, it is definitionally what separates trt from a cruise.

>>76292909
Why wont you just cycle test?

Fuck it there's no primo, I'm ordering Mast
Hope my hair stays the same haha!!

>>76294115
I’d consider 140mg a week to be TRT personally. Not everybody wants to do daily injections so sometimes an AI is a good idea

L-Carnitine x2 a day sorta sucks but between it and hgh I'm way leaner without really stressing a out it
Thanks for reading my blog

>>76295280
Why wouldn't you just take salbutamol.

>>76295355
I have in the past, it builds up a tolerance so you can't really take it year round like those though
Also probably best reserved for targeted cuts obv

>>76289129
>1g of androgens
>dont expect much kiddo
Yeah brother he's not running 100mg tren daily, but no, he he will still see significant gains within even 8 weeks running that.

>>76296527
lol
400 test + some primo and var totaling a gram is nothing like 500 test/500 deca.
That's a gram you will start to see real results from.

>>76296560
>deca bro!
Just boomer retardation. If you said 500Test 500tren id agree, but deca is marginally more anabolic than test.

>>76291176
>save var for the cut
Christ this board is like a time capsule.
>this sterpid for cutting this roid for bulking
Hey retards, no sterpid if a fat burner, all they're purpose is is to build and maintain tissue, they dont do this equally yes, but all will see increased "effect" when the training environment is superior i.e. a bulk

>>76296566
Not everyone wants to take tren.
My point is anyway that even a gram of test only beats his test/primo/var stack.
When people say "a gram of gear" they shouldnt even include shit like primo and mast in the total because they're so weak compared to test, deca, tren etc.
Anyway, why do faggots like you get emotional because someone takes a compound you dont like? Maybe you should switch to deca because tren is making you sound like a bitch.
We get it. You dont like deca because you took it once and you had bad side effects because you're frail and too dumb to manage them.
That's not my problem. I fucking love deca.

>>76296597
>I WEALY WEALY DECA
Like i said, boomer retardation. Dont even try with the faux masculine bullshit over deva f youre too much of a pussy to use Tren. I imagine youre also the type of retard to say "Npp and deca feel completely different bro" lmfao

>>76281612
I cruise at 250mg. Do what works for you.

>>76296604
Never took NPP so I dont know or care.
And the only one here with the fake macho bullshit is you who only replied to my post so can brag about tren and call me boomer.
You take tren. Good for you nobody cares. You probably still look natty. If you even lift.
You probably dont even roid. You're another muppet and your only experience with deca is from seeing memes about "deca boomers" so you repeat trying to sound cool.
faggot

>>76296639
oh and btw I've taken tren. 300mg tren does nothing 500mg deca doesnt and with far less side effects.
Of course you're gonna call me pussy or something for only raking 300mg because its very important to you sound tough on the internet.

>>76296650
Measuring his doses in mg and not grams. NGMI.

>>76296650
>Never took NPP so I dont know or care.
As I expected, clueless boomer retard who doesn't even know NPP and Deca are the same steroid lmfao.
>And the only one here with the fake macho bullshit is you who only replied to my post so can brag about tren and call me boomer.
Hey retard, I only brought the tren up after you gave me some bullshit about me not being able to tolerate deca.


>>76296650
>calls me a muppet faggot but he's so butthurt for being called a boomer retard (he is) that he double replies crying "but I have taken tren anyways, j swear"
No you haven't. And I think you've embarrassed yourself enough. Dont reply to me anymore.

>>76296673
>NPP and Deca are the same steroid
No shit idiot. You said I think deca and NPP feel different. I never took NPP so how would I know if it feels different?
People say tren ace feels different from tren E and test prop feels different from test E or C. I never took short esters so how would I know how it feels?
More proof you dont roid or have no idea what you're doing because its a widespread belief that short esters feel different from long ones.

>>76278178
Why didn't he take accutane then?

Decided to legally get on TRT yesterday and dropped some money for the peace of mind of not ordering from some shady chinks who could be brewing in a bath tub.

Surprisingly easy to get test prescriptions you find the right place.

>>76297351
Only good thing about a trt script is the prescription card so you can carry vials and needles on planes and across states with no problems from the cops. Once you get that it's kinda useless.

>>76296566
>this steroid is for cutting this roid for bulking
I said what I said because orals are shit for bulking. Not because they're not anabolic or have some magical properties for cutting, but because there's better options that don't risk GI upset/appetite suppression. Anavar is nice on a cut because of the cosmetic effect.

>>76298135
Also depending who you get the prescription from, the amount of games you have to play to keep your prescription gets really annoying. TRT clinics DGAF as long as yout HCT <50 and T is less than 1200.
Urologists want you at 750 and lower.

Anyone ordered from le cock

>take ai
>elbows hurt
>dont take ai
>nips become sensitive
Fuck this balancing game

Gimme some strength cycle ideas

After leg day Saturday I somehow hurt my right calf even though I don't even isolate them, I assume hack squat somehow. I'm limping and hurts to walk, also a bit of swelling and tightness, right calf feels bigger and hurts to touch.

It's gotten better but still not fully healed, I just wanted to make sure this sounds like a gym injury or could this have been caused by roids somehow? I'm not even on much rn only 250 test and 150 primo.

>>76299559
yeah. High doses of roids like that are know to cause calf pain.

>>76298669
Try EQ.

>>76298739
Halo, deca, mtren every day for 12 weeks

>>76298739
The cycle Brandon Lilly recommends for his cube method routine
It's basically:
Test/deca/eq for main compounds
Var at start
Dbol/tren near end

>>76299991
Sounds good but I've only tried test, primo and var.
Kind of wanted to add 1 compound at a time, what are the downsides of adding both EQ and Deca at once without having prior experience with them

>>76299559
no, you just injured yourself like a retard. Ice and stretch.
>>76298739
Tren, dbol and winstrol on a bulk, weights fly up like magic.
>>76300027
>both?
High blood pressure, water bloat, extra hunger so you might overshoot calories.

>>76298739
nutties workout ive had was on 200mg tren base and meth + 6 donuts pw with novarapid + whatever long esters i was blasting. mentally deficient pump and strength.

>>76298739
Nothing is going to help your strength more than tren. If you've never done it before start low and slowly increase it (especially on Tren-E). I had a bad time first tren cycle and avoided it for years but jumped back in slowly and that was the key for me.

>>76292873
>I did fin just while on T. Though I will say I’m pretty sure it led to me loving dildos up my ass
is this why i bought a dildo two months after starting fin?

>>76300480
I have no interest in my bussy getting penetrated. But I do make girls lick my asshole while I jack off. Feels good man.

>>76280033
i only worry about deadspace when i dose my peptides. you can figure out how much deadspace your syringe has. for example, if you withdraw 0.5 ml and pull it back, and use the line at the opposite end, and it measures like 0.6ml then you have 0.1 ml deadspace. knowing this, just draw 0.1ml less for the first oil.
my syringe has 0.12ml deadspace. if i add 1ml(as shown on my syringe) to my peptides, there is 1.12ml volume in the vial. for this peptide, reta, i'm on 3.33mg every 6 days. so i draw 0.25ml to achieve 0.37ml. (1.12/3 is 0.37)

hope this helps

Almost done with my 1st 8 week anavar cycle. How long must I wait before starting my 2nd cycle?

will enclomephine by itself cause any measurable gains in muscle mass if my test levels are naturally >1100 ng/dl?

came back from the derm, he agreed that my cyst acne from my test-e cycle one year ago is terminal, its never gonna heal or go away. please guys dont make my mistake and stay natty, i havent been able to leave my house since 16 months ago except for work and doctor, cystic acne is serious and is gonna fuck your shit up, and its also unavoidable.
cystic acne is more than appearance, its waking up with blood all over your sheet shirt, not being to wear anyhting but black, having bloody boils all over you. its very painful and it come from a test-e 500mg 15 weeks cycle followed by a pct
be safe

>>76301299
I agree with this anon. If youre retarded like him, please dont roid!!!! Learn from his mistake!!!

>>76266974
jesus fuck i did a similiar cycle and Mast just kills everything, can't even think about tits or ass its just wake up and just fucking end it already

>>76301299
Since you know so much about cystic acne, then explain me when my cystic acne went away when I hopped on blast/cruise instead of cycling? stop larping

>>76301299
I hope this guy continues posting, more natties; the better.
>>76301337
That's just your deficit. If you're eating 2000 calories when your maintenance was 3200, what are you expecting? Your sex drive will go to the toilet.
>>76300886
I ran anavar for over a year once, so dunno desu.
>>76301140
Enlco doesn't do shit, never saw any gains on the three guys I know took it.

>>76301457
I committed suicide three times and got terminal stage 3 cystic acne on my anus from the 500mg test e cycle
now they want to amputate my asshole and I'll have to shit out of a tube from my navel
Don't roid bros, it is unhealthy

>>76265376 (OP)
I'm on a dbol 20mg and test e 250mg a week cycle, currently week 3 think I'm just feeling the test now but the dbol impact was immediate. Weight is up 4kg.

>>76302072
Many such cases!

>>76302072
based, never roid guys. This dude came back to life three times just to get cystic acne, learn from his mistakes. #NATTYFORLIFE

>>76290035
If thats the first time you fucked up, you start with like 0.5ml im each head, then go to 1ml, then 1.5 or 2ml. If you started at 2ml lmao no wonder theyre agitated.

>>76302072
wtf an other one?
i guess im gonna be more careful with a steroid, i wouldnt want to die like the dinos

>>76301299
please send pic
you ve been talking about it for 4 months

I get fully hard from laying down or sitting a certain way
>1200 test, 400 eq, 200 deca, 50 tbol, 50 proviron, 6iu hgh

How to get rid of back/shoulder acne?

>>76303057
Based
>>76303218
Daily injections, consistent AI use. I still take AI on like 250 test prop a week, I still use a truckload of other shit tho.

>>76303218
Accutane.

>>76303218
dont listen to 4chan, only a derm can truly help you , a lot of skin bump get confused for acne and actually arent and need specific treatment. without a pic, it might be anyhting rly, it might be something else like aids and you might die (yes you can get aids from pinning, dont share your pins guys, im serious, thats how i got aids)

Any try ULTIMA PHARMACEUTICALS?

>>76304089
dont get hung up on brands. Its all the same shit. Just find a reputable source you like and stick with them.

what's the choice peptide for weight loss these days?

>>76304349
GLP-1's. Retatrutide or Tirzepatide.

anyone know if bimbo moved on to bangin women?

>>76304089
Yeah they're good to go