Is it really that simple?

he's 100% blasting protein

>>76272932
He feels the need to mention that he's natty every single video, there's no way he's blasting that dreaded protein?!

>>76272932
gaining more muscle in years 7-10 of training vs. 3-6 is totally normal

That's the phenotype of a liar if I've ever seen one

>>76272928 (OP)
Is it about training harder intensity or volume?
Say 5 X 5 set of pull-ups = 25
VS
2 X 5 in the morning - 1 x 5 at lunch - 2 X 5 at night = 25?
(However with the second method you can get more total volume and probably do like 3 X 5 morning 2 X 5 lunch 3 X 5 night and you are at 40 for the day but no sets to failure?).

I sometimes cycle between styles like this. Sometimes high intensity sets all together, sometimes less reps but with weighted vest, sometimes high volume spread over the day without going to completely failure, sometimes deload and just light sessions and if I can't do any of these properly it's time to rest the body.

A year ago I was still in college, I noticed that I weighted 230lbs, the most I've ever weighed.
I decided to start fasting, I ate around 700-1000 calories every 36-48 hours.
It was a grilled chicken sandwich. I also only drank water.

After a month of doing this I was back to 200lbs, not a great weight but it was my usual weight.
Fast-Forward today. A bit over a month ago I weighed 230lbs again. Ok I'll diet again, also start going to the gym.
Today, 231lbs. What the fuck happened?
I've been going to the gym multiple times a week for over a month.
I do 30 minutes of cardio and 30-45 minutes of weight training.
The only difference between me today and 1 month ago is that I'm slightly stronger.

But I'm still on the deficit, why isn't the gym helping me lose even more weight than when I just fasted?

>>76272959
>just discovered muscle has mass

>>76272965
Yeah apparently I'm fucking myself because I don't really care about being strong or muscle mass I just want to be a skinny nerd.
I just thought that lifting weights and stuff would help me lose weight, my dad used to tell me that for some reason too.
but according to the people on here and some light research I did, lifting weights for weight loss is basically useless when you're a beginner like me.

>>76272955
OP here, according to the guy I'm quoting he means both intensity and volume as in many sets

>>76272967
Be smarter and think long term, having more muscle on your frame means its easier to be leaner.

>>76272976
that is true, i'm hoping it works out in the long run.

>>76272967
lifting weights is one of the most important/healthiest hobbies you can have during this era as physical labor continues to decreases, lifting weights also does burn a considerable amount of calories and encourages your body to have a faster metabolism not to mention the more muscle you have the more calories your body will burn

tldr: lifting weights is good regardless of any goal and does also assist in losing fat mass

>>76272967
uh but compounds use alot of muscles. and you don't have to focus that much doing some sets. vs like cardio the same amount of time. you know what I'm saying?
and later the muscle increases your TDEE. so you can eat more.
but don't think the higher TDEE will make you lose weight. it will just let you eat more.

>>76272967
Lifting alone doesn't make you lose weight, it makes losing weight easier. This is both due to physical and mental factors. Your weight loss will have more meaning if you're lifting weights at the same time. You'll get more positive reinforcement when you look in the mirror and think you look swole af, which doesn't require a whole lot as a newbie. You say you want to be a skinny nerd, but I guarantee you'll be pleased when you see and feel the first signs of muscular development.
Buuuut weight loss happens in the kitchen.

>>76272959
Try actually lifting weights for real

>>76273003
I guess I'll try more cardio. I do at least 1 mile on the tredmill every time I go to the gym. which isn't a lot but its more than I did before and I still lost weight then. I also don't any consume soda or sugar in general anymore, just water and chicken like before. Its a little demotivating that I'm not losing weight but I guess I should be happy about getting more muscle mass.

>>76273056
Well I just started using the 17.5 lbs dumbbells for my dumbbell exercises, its a step up from the 15lbs I had been using the previous weeks.
I could probably do the 20lbs dumbbells but I'm trying to go for endurance and reps more than maxxing out.
I also do chest and back exercises, I have a gym friend that shows me what to do.

>>76273068
>Its a little demotivating that I'm not losing weight but I guess I should be happy about getting more muscle mass.
If you're gaining muscle and staying the same weight that means you're losing fat.
>I guess I'll try more cardio
Cardio is good, but it can't replace a good diet for weight loss. Doing too much of it can actually make things harder as your body will be screaming at you to replace those energy stores. An hour of moderate intensity exercise will burn about 300 calories, a banana is about 100 calories, a normal sandwich with some toppings might be about 300 calories. It's much easier to not eat the sandwich than it is to run for an hour.

>>76272928 (OP)
He fucks asians

>>76273110
used to fuck Asians. Still do, but I used to too.

>>76273128
What is that supposed to mean? AI bot babble

>>76273130
warm streams of urine soaking your boyish locks

>>76273146
Ai bot babble it is. It always baffled me why they bother to put those on these board but there's clearly a bunch

>>76273110
not having sex with women from some region or another because of weird online beliefs is funny

>>76272928 (OP)
My pet theory is that subjective exertion is best measure for getting cut. So far I seem to be correct.

>>76273151
Sex is one thing but - and this only applies to white people - wasting your seed to create more racial mongrols is bad. If you're white, have white kids.

>>76273149
>Ai always
>bot babble baffled
>bother board bunch
>clearly
*implying*
*why*
>they those these
it is?

>>76273187
Holy fuck the bot went full retard.
>>76273167
>bot number 2 released

>>76273187
Hey AI what do you think about Israel

>>76273195
Israel is our greatest ally. We need regime change in Iran.

>>76273151
>not having sex with women from some region or another because of weird online beliefs is funny
The irony of your post is pretty amusing ngl.

>>76273149
>It always baffled me why they bother to put those on these board
The thing is to make the internet inane and boring, so people don't use it to organize. And it's working pretty well. Tbh you only need bots in the beginning, the brainlets will just copy them for fun after a while.

>>76272944
See what happens when you train harder.

>>76273192
>Holy fuck the bot went full retard.
still sounds smarter than the average /fit/ poster

>>76273208
Bots in other sites have always been obvious, but seeing how many there is here is kind of surprising.

>>76272944
or just get high and drunk so you can figure shit out instead of observing shit like an excel sheet and nothing means anything

>>76273151
Don't worry /fit/izens don't have sex with women from any region

>>76272928 (OP)
so uhh... is he natural? his mouth says yes but his body says no o algo

>>76272955
What a cluster fuck. Hows your gains and physique?

>>76272982
>lifting weights also does burn a considerable amount of calories
No it does not. It barely burns anything. A lifting session barely burns 100calories.

>>76272928 (OP)
>>76272932
>>76272943
>>76272944


Does he fake how weak he is? He can't even bench lmao3pl8

>>76273130
Imagine being this new and still having an opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndBjraV-3UY

>>76272944
I don't understand why people even roid if you can look like this after making minimal progress for years as a pure natty like GVS.

>>76274052
Would be clever for a fake natty.

do you guys think every single fitness media e-celeb is not natural? not being snarky, actually asking

>>76272944

From hearing him talk, I'm 99% certain he is natty.
He just seems like a genuine dude and I think everyone would gain a lot by subscribing to his youtube channel (and his programs actually kick ass too). Besides I didn't blow up those few years you're talking about, muscle gain is higher sure but not by an order of magnitude.

>>76274118
This is what a guy with good genetics can look like to have similarly sized arms as GVS.

>>76274120
>Besides I

>>76274133
And this is what he ends up looking like when he tries to get down to similar levels of definition.

>>76272928 (OP)
pretty much yes
>train with high intensity
>eat enough food, high protein, as much unprocessed as possible
>repeat for 3 years
>if not satisfied with where your genetics allowed you to get to in 3 years, blast steroids

>>76272967
> I don't really care about being strong or muscle mass I just want to be a skinny nerd.

The problem with this line of thinking that's prevalent among fat/chubby men "I just want to be skinny/lean, I don't care about muscle", is that 99% of the time you'll end up skinny fat, unless you're genetically predisposed to it, it's extremely hard to get to sub 12% bodyfat without a decent amount of muscle mass.

Also even a small amount of muscle, say 10-15lbs which can realistically be achieved in 8-16 months for a beginner lifter, will do wonders for your frame, you'll look athletic skinny instead of nerd skinny.

>>76274136
>Similar levels of definition
I'm sorry this is just delusional, Vitruvian physique at his leanest didn't even get below 10% bodyfat. Meanwhile GVS was genuinely contest-level conditioned, well below 10%, probably around 6-7%

>>76274052
>shills ridiculous amounts of volume for natties
>is weak as fuck

>meanwhile BASEDMent bodybuilding's volume is 60-70 sets/week max and has blasted through 4pl8 years ago

high volume for natties is a complete meme
GVS has a tendency to be very clickbaity, too

>>76273130
Anything you don’t understand id ai? Lmao genocide brainlets

>>76274118
Pretty much. While I'm obviously not perfect, I have been lifting for 13 years and I have 3 national championship medals. One from weightlifting and 2 from other single player sports.

I have a pretty good idea on what is achievable naturally and what isn't, thanks to my background in competitive sports and over decade of recreational hypertrophy training. I can give some benefit of the doubt to "freaky genetics". Like if you have myostatin deficiency, absurd muscle insertions and full muscle bellies, it is theoretically possible to look significantly better than someone else as natural. But this applies to practically no one. 99,9999999999999999999999% of social media influencers are just average guys with average genetics, average knowledge, average intensity, average everything, but they take steroids.

>>76274372
That guy is definitely a newfag but not a brainlet desu. It takes some pattern recognition to realize that bots speak only in memes like those posters to fit in, and also derail threads like that

what happened to all the other "natties"?, I never see thread about them anymore

>>76275233
They stopped shilling themselves

>>76272928 (OP)
No, you need the knowledge to adapt your program and technique to your circumstances instead of carbon copying what other people do. That's why retards need to resort to roids.

>>76273179
The vast majority of whites are mediocre genetic defects these days

>>76272928 (OP)
roidTRANNY

>>76275317
Which race isn't, according to (You)

>>76274052
I have to admit something
I don't know who that is

>>76275233
Eventually anyone with a good physique will decide that discussing fitness with dyels who are too smart to take advice then cry all day about not making gau s arent worth talking to

>>76275317
Maybe white americans