Is fapping bad? Is there a sweetspot between no fap and excessively fapping? Ive heard once or twice a week is a reasonable amount. Is that going to hinder my gains? Assuming no porn as well

idc if its bad or not, im going to jerk it

Holy shit lift harder instead of finding magic ways to increase muscle.
>am i not making gains because i cum regularly like all other humans
No nigger you dint put in the work, clearly.

Only incels say no fap has any benefits. How come uber chads are who fuck 7 different girls every week aren’t dyels?

>>76277784
I cant believe I fell for it too...

It's just blueballing yourself and feeling good about the accomplishment.

Still doing it though, but not to the extremes I used to. Just like being mildly hungry. Just mildly.

>>76277784
Because those Uber chads are either on roids or they are lean and dont have much muscle mass that constantly cumming doesnt affect their minimal performance levels. For a min maxed gymcelmaxxer cumming more than a few times a week will limit your growth as your body will always prioritize making sperm over rebuilding muscle

Does having sex kill your gains? Just don't have sex then. Nosex, lmao.

>>76277812
What the fuck are you saying you nigger. Do you think Olympic Athletes care about how often they fuck or something? Or college athletes? Or highschool athletes? Plenty of wide-shouldered chads you can see there that sure as fuck don't give 2 shits about nofap.

>>76277834
>What the fuck are you saying you nigger. Do you think Olympic Athletes care about how often they fuck or something? Or college athletes? Or highschool athletes? Plenty of wide-shouldered chads you can see there that sure as fuck don't give 2 shits about nofap.
Athletes are literally told not to fuck at least 2 weeks before their big games to not mess up their energy levels and recovery

>>76277867
Dude they had to import condoms for tge olypics that shit is a known fuckfest

>>76277876
Because once they all lose and theres nothing else to do theres a bunch of sexual frustration. Athletes aren't fucking when they still have tons compete. You'd be an idiot to reduce your performance while you still have a competition going

>>76277812
Retard, cumming a lot is proof of high testosterone. If as a man you can last more than a few days without the urge to cum into a tight pussy then you have low test

>>76277900
Are you Indian? Be honest my proud nofapper.

>>76277802
I did it for an entire month but never again. Even a week is too much. I was getting attracted to fatties with no functional way to give myself clarity.

If you ever feel in doubt, just do a quick wank and you'll be in your best shape to solve problems

>>76277925
Im not Indian

>>76277921
>cumming a lot is proof of high T
That has nothing to do with what I said.

>>76277940
Its best to delay it until its mildly uncomfortable, the moment you lose your peace you either calm yourself down and if that doesnt work just rub one out. Doing it this way doesnt make you a porn addict, doesnt ruin your mental clarity and makes each wank feel good.

No reason to obsess about not cumming. Its natural to release, what is unnatural is the unnecessary chastisement of the body. All that willpower and energy you put into blueballing yourself can be used for so much more.

I think nofap mattered in the past because people ate shitty diets. Nowadays with a good diet humans can cum like horses day in day out, do you really think masturbating will fuck you up lmao.

>>76277713 (OP)
Being addicted to anything is bad.
There's your answer.

Idk I fap lots and have lots of sex too, cooming is great I always feel better after

Is this the e-thot coomer thread?

>>76277713 (OP)
Many coping gooners and porn addicts in this thread

fapping is obviously good. zero cost, high reward. I have a gf I live with and we have a normal sexual life, but I still fap every day because it's literally free pleasure and I'm so horny all the time I need to calm it down and sex takes too much time and effort.
if me and my girl were neets I'd definitely fap much less as we'd fuck all day, alas we got shit to do all the time and hand relief is necessary to keep sanity

>>76278151
No black'n'white my nigga. Just do it without making it your life's sole purpose. No porn or minimal porn, at most twice a week. No reason to lose your clearheadedness cuz your a horny nigga on 3 weeks of nofap. No reason to spend 24/7 obsessing over your lust.

This doesn't mean to edge for 3 hours straight.

>>76277713 (OP)
Never goon

>>76277921
this is simply factually incorrect. having the incessant craving for pussy or cumming is the most low T beta thing ever. it's one step away from simping.

>>76277713 (OP)
The only reason you should restraint yourself from cooming when you have time and space for it is to coom harder later
>>76278241
>Having the very drive androgynous hormons mainly exist to push means you're lacking in them
Simping has nothing to do with craving to dump your seed inside pussy, something is telling me you're a projecting simp

>>76277713 (OP)
If I don't fap at least once a week I get irritable amd have trouble concentrating.

>>76278256
i said it is one step away from simping, not equivalent to simping. i think you need to better your reading comprehension skills. having pussy revolving around your head like gum drop fairies is beta low T shit. it is quite literally a gyno-centrist perception of life.

>>76278274
As opposed to your homoerotic way of life of focusing on MEEEEN HNGHHH

>>76277921
Come on home son! She misses you

>>76278285
who said i was focusing on men? not supporting one thing does not automatically mean i support the opposite. when it comes to discussion, very few concepts are binary.

>>76278296
If you have no desire for women or suppress it either you're a coping incel or you have hormonal imbalance
Yeah no you're not an ascetic monk, you're on 4chan dude.

>>76278285
Fascinating, lets see the search history and score on a stop signal task.

>>76278304
where did i say i have no desire for women? i simply expressed the truth that obsessing over pussy is low T beta behavior. expressing thought 0 does not mean i automatically support thought 1. there is a fundamental difference between desire and an obsessive incessant craving for pussy.

>>76278304
A bitch annoys me and I deny her sex, problem? I'd rather use my hand than fuck 90% of the low-grade tank dross you'd let within range of my toolie bang. The fact you idolize something so vapid is proof you belong to those whores and afa I'm concerned they can continue to own you.

>>76277713 (OP)
Whatever you do, don't NoFap

>>76278350
good one, schlomo.

>>76278332
>>76278346
Except you can't get women at all, this is like a somalian telling me eating medium rare meat is bad for your health, that's why you cope by calling healthy straight males "low t"

>>76278365

>>76278365
Yea assuming I'm lying to you because otherwise you lose the argument is a sign of losing the argument. I'd recommend you log off now kiddo.

>>76278369
Your very first point is :
"Healthy men who jerk off are low t and im le stoic for suppressing a basic human need/drive"
I simply gave you an adequate answer

>>76278380
very interesting strawman argument. that was not my point at all. you are way off lol. are you a native english speaker? where did i ever mention jerking off, stoicism, or restricting human needs? you may be delusional with how many conclusions you're fabricating.

>>76277713 (OP)
If fapping was bad jews wouldnt push for NNN and (((nofap)))

>>76278380
Yea except you're a cumbrain and the thing that doesnt apply all the time applies to you. Idk about the other guy but I'm saying you're a vapid retard with more braincells in your penis and spine than above the neck but you're too retarded to pick up on what people are actually intimating ergo a sign of poor problem solving ability, and especially low impulse control. To pull you out of the clouds there you think or have poorly communicated and expressed the opinion that jerking off is a pillar of health. You're retarded and obviously there is more nuance, but the left hand moving part of your brain has overtaken the ability to exercise any other faculty, SAD.

>>76278399
You're running around arguing semantics now to do damage control lel
Jerking off is completely normal natural and healthy, as is desiring women (but you're a tranime watching cuck so i can excuse you for being detached from reality)

>>76278415
Goalpost moved since the worshipping of pussy was called out. Dire.

>>76278406
>but the left hand moving part of your brain has overtaken
Only brown people believe in this popsci shit so im going to disregard your drivel entirely.
Actually it makes sense why a brownoid would be waving around wes watson alpha male bootcamp tier dogshit about people having a wank three times a week, your entire perception of life is waved around internet talking points

>>76278420
>You w-worship pussy because you f-fuck it and jerk off to it !!! S-simp !!!
Try making your homosexuality less obvious

>>76278428
>>76278424
That was not the right response pal. Really anything else would've worked better. This is embarassing.

>>76277921
>Retard, cumming a lot is proof of high testosterone. If as a man you can last more than a few days without the urge to cum into a tight pussy then you have low test

>>76278433
>That was not the right response pal
Im giving you the replies you deserve, it's not the bravado you think it is, everyone can see you're talking from a point of frustration

>>76278428
I thought this style of retort went extinct due to selection pressure in 2020 at the latest. The obsession with homosexuality is just proving the porn addict point. Btw are you just stupid or are you some form of E. European serf descendant bc I feel like I'm arguing with an Arab. I've noticed those groups overlap in thsi.

>>76278434
No I think you're retarded and its quite entertaining. GET OUTTA THE CLOUDS SON. Reality rules with cruelty and grandeur over the dick-pulling 90IQ masses. Sorry not sorry, get a hobby. Any numbskull can lift weights (or pull his pecker)

>>76278415
i'm not doing that at all. i provided my central idea in plain english with plenty of keywords and examples, and that is: obsessing over pussy or women is low t beta behavior. that does not mean i automatically support stoicism, celibacy, nofap, or any other random conclusion you accuse me of supporting. not once have i played the game of semantics. i remained on topic supporting the primary point of the truth of the matter. there is a substantial difference between having a natural sense of desire towards there being a woman present in your life and obsessively, compulsively, thinking about pussy and sex.

constantly thinking about pussy might as well be femdom. if stacy has your mind pussywhipped then she owns your ass. you're her little low T beta slave. never let a woman hijack your animus. it's a very weak willed way to go. trying to justify your porn or sex addition does not make you le epic alpha chad.

now, what is more >>>/fit/? a man who has control over his primal impulses, or a man who is mentally enslaved by pussy and women? think about it, tyrone. get those gears turning before you respond.

>>76278447
This kind man has taken the time to explain to you why you are a retard. Its way more than most reply guys on this site could ever hope for. Count your blessings Jack. A W in disguise just fell on your lap. Use it wisely.

>>76277713 (OP)
Regular masturbation is great for dopamine regulation
Bad to abuse it like any other dopamine source but once a day or two really keeps your mentals in check
Also 5x a week is linked to healthier prostate iirc (well just cumming in general but none of us are fucking that much let's be real)

>>76277713 (OP)
For energy and mood I think it’s best like once or twice a week

I usually goon it when I wake up but never to porn since that fucks up your dopamine/seratonin levels when you do it in the morning.
Sometimes I abstain for a few days to have pent up sexual energy but if you can't focus on anything since you're too horny go beat off, porn is bad but watching 10 mins of it is fine. Just don't go full gooner watching hours of porn daily

>>76277713 (OP)
I don't think it affects muscle growth or strength really, but fapping does have a big influence in your sexual health.
I am 25 and fit. However, when I finally got a (slim, blonde, tall and beautiful) girlfriend after years of being a loser coping with maturbation and porn, my dick just doesn't work. I then realized I can only get hard when I am fapping to porn. No matter how hard I tried, I could only get like 60% hard with my gf, so it was super hard getting in. On top of that, even when I eventually managed to get in, I would feel nothing thanks to years of death grip, so my dick would simply go limp again.
I had to pretend that I was just too nervous (better than admitting that I am a fucking coomer). Thankfully my girlfriend is very understanding and I am now trying nofap.

>>76277713 (OP)
Porn, especially hardcore videos, is bad because it short circuits your dopamine for a quick fix on xhamster instead of seeking out a woman.
Fapping, on the other hand, is natural.

>>76278402
Jews get mad at those retard, what poor attempt at reverse psychology

i inject steroids and fap 2-3 times a day

annoying post, using it to check digits >>76277777

>>76277713 (OP)
>Is there a sweetspot between no fap and excessively fapping?
if you ever go in to get your sperm tested for fertility, they tell you to have at least 2 and at most 5 days between your previous nut and the one being measured.

>>76277713 (OP)
Fapping was considered sinful and shameful far before internet porn even existed.

Fapping being "good" or "healthy" is just modern Psy op.

>>76277713 (OP)
Fapping has no downsides as long as you only fap to your imagination or memories

What about sex? Is sex once a week good?

>>76278234
If you would have been 3 weeks on nofap you would know that after a week the urges basically go away unless youre looking at porn

>>76278361
schlomo my ass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPSRlANKpDw

>>76281482
based

>>76281620
>3 hours
No, all i need to know is jews ruin the porn industry and want you fapping daily

>>76277713 (OP)
If you fap you're gonna use porn which is a lethal poison for your neurochemistry and for your mental health. If you coom with a woman and are monogamous it's healthy.
>inb4 source?
Every successful bout of human civilization worthy of respect

>>76281620
if you need to watch a multiple hour long video by an ugly frenchman trying to rationalize why fapping is not bad maybe it is actually bad