coworker to me:
>I got a personal trainer
>to FORCE myself to train

His words, not mine
>mfw

>>76281099 (OP)
basically all normies have that mentality
>I could train at home but if I'm paying for a gym subscription I'll feel forced to go
>I could make myself a diet plan but if I'm paying for a dietician I'm definitely sticking to it
>I could self reflect and confront my issues on my own but if I'm paying for a therapist I'll feel more compelled to do it

>>76281099 (OP)
>if i buy a dog it will force me to walk it and be active
>if we have a kid it will save our relationship

There is something to external sources of motivation. It shouldn't be the primary driver, and you would be embarrassed to admit it. But building a life that reinforces your good choices is a good aim.

>>76281130
>if we have a kid it will save our relationship
This is sad and against my better knowledge I hope people don't still do this.

>>76281286
People do this often

>>76281286
>>76281359
and it is fucking grim

the gym trainers at my gym hate me because im doing it all myself and demoralising their customers

>>76281099 (OP)
>Someone I work with is actively trying to improve themselves. Let me go on an anime website and pretend I'm better than them.

>>76281117
>>76281130
why are normies like this? serious question btw, why does everyone always keep doing these things?

>>76281099 (OP)
I had a couple of sessions with a PT 10y ago and he said he basically counts reps and holds people accountable because they pay. Normies are weird.

I also did one session with a PT who said the same and that one hour is more than enough to set someone on the right path

>>76281099 (OP)
what gains are you working with though? maybe uh get your shit together.

>>76281399
This is the whey.

>>76281117
>>76281099 (OP)
I guess I'm a normie because if I'm paying for a gym membership you fucking hell better bet I'm showing up to us it. Nothing pisses me off more than laying subscription fees and not taking advantage of it.

>>76281117
Slaves without a Master

>>76281910
sybau npc bitch

>>76281099 (OP)
My parents pay 800€ a year for their gym membership. I told them to get some equipment at home and they can safe money in the long run.
They said they'd not do anything at home even if they had the gear.
Depressing.
And they go the gym about 3 times a month.

>>76281399
No, they hate you because you're a faggot and ugly

>>76281951
They got money you don't sybau.

>>76281099 (OP)
Good, more paypig money so the gym stays in business

>>76281490
>actively trying to improve themselves
More like hired someone to try and actively improve them while they continue to lie about how much cream they put in their coffee

>>76281951
Your parents probably just fuck around on machines. They’re not going to do squats at home you retarded yuro monkey.

>>76282075
Your so cool bro let's see that body with a timestamp

>>76282151
>Moms wuattinf in the dining room again

>>76281503
Habit. It's the way they have learned to live and self actualize, via a Master. A setting with specific coordinates they feel comfortable in.
Some people break their backs for pennies and feel proud about it. same thing.

>>76281923
in English please

>>76281099 (OP)
getting a PT is good if you are starting out and need proper form correction

I think anyone, even people who have to do something we consider silly, who is trying to stay fit and healthy is doing well. I hope he found the motivation to go to the gym regularly, and maybe he can someday find a love for it without needing to pay a PT. We should be lifting our fellow man up, even if their reasoning or method is strange, if they're going to the gym we shouldn't try to bring them down.

>>76283351
Do you guys think the incentive to do something is the result of some painful stimulus or is it a positive thing. Do you have to hurt to get good?

>>76281099 (OP)
normalfags
>don't like to be active
>don't like to do things
>do things they don't like and think it's good because someone convinced them that it is
>can't make plans themselves
>can't police themselves
>can't follow a basic plan on their own

middle management didn't come into life by design, but by need
normalfags eat plants and then don't want to do anything

>>76281099 (OP)
some people need external motivation, especially in the beginning.
they can still make it.

>>76281099 (OP)
I fucking hate myself and I hate biking alive. I LIKE the pain I feel. What I don’t understand are Normgroids who love to training for the feel good nonsense of it.

I fucking hate myself and I hate biking alive. I LIKE the pain I feel. What I don’t understand are Normgroids who love to training for the feel good nonsense of it.

The morbidly obese nigger bitch at work had the audacity to tell me I should stop running because "it's bad for your knees."

>>76281138
Underrated post.

>>76284421
It's because you're too quick for her niglets to rob you.

>>76284421
It is that's why I ruck march, but unironically

>>76284772
Yeah but rucking is unironically bad for your knees.

>>76281099 (OP)
Good for them

>>76281099 (OP)
So what? Some people need extra motivation.
Not everyone is has the discipline of a LE EPIC SPARTAN WARRIOR like all obese dyel cartoon-watching 4chan incels do.

>>76282075
you're really upset about this?
Very strange to get so emotional over some guy hiring a PT.
You care very deeply about this while pretending to be some high test chad unbothered by "normie" problems.

>>76284793
Not compared to running. You're just carrying weight on your back.
I unironically do it whenever I need to go somewhere. I use weighted vest and a bag

>>76284772
I was in the infantry almost 30 years ago and my knees are still fucked from the rucking

>>76281117
>I could train at home but if I'm paying for a gym subscription I'll feel forced to go

Are these the same people who whine about commuting to work, but take twenty or thirty minutes to go to a gym and likely wait to workout?

>>76281117
>I could train at home but if I'm paying for a gym subscription I'll feel forced to go

Are these the same people who whine about commuting to work, but take twenty or thirty minutes to go to a gym and likely wait to work out?

>>76285325
I dont know.
Is this a real thing or something you just made up in your head right now to be angry about ?

>>76285338
Commutes are a major reason people don't want to go back to the office to work.

>>76285451
Just because it's a major reason doesn't mean it's a good reason.

>>76281503
>serious question btw, why does everyone always keep doing these things?
I think it's denial. If you really know you have to work out and eat right, you just do it. If you aren't sure, you need to be bullied.

>>76281099 (OP)
hes just trying to be like you, man.
I dunno, that would be nice to hear, and I'd be happy that whatever route he thinks would work, he's giving it a try.

>>76281117
>>76281130
>if I get a girlfriend it will bring me back from the brink
It's the only thing I haven't tried though so maybe it actually is what I need?

>>76281117
>>76281130
>>76281138
I'm kind of like that, but I'm stingy and I don't like paying for stuff. What motivates me is writing stuff down. I track my workouts, my bodyweight, my finances, etc. and I dread not being able to fill out my diaries and spreadsheets, having some kind of hole or justification in them for not having done something.

>>76281099 (OP)
Hey man ot works

>>76285451
what does that have to do with going to the gym, retard?

how do I make myself not hate working out
dopamine deprivation?

>>76281099 (OP)
>>76281117
>>76281130

>>76284845
Because you guys carry 100lbs for miles, that's obviously going to destroy you. Adequate weight is 45lbs, 20 if you're starting out