Ironically this is me. I did all that self-improvement bullshit but young women don't want anything to do with me. 31+ never been in a relationship, go to the gym 6 days a week.

>>76282513 (OP)
Hmm guess you better kys!

>>76282513 (OP)
R.I.P. 30+ anons...

>>76282513 (OP)
Kek, saving this to shit on TRP faggots
>just hussle bro
>just lift hard bro
>life for a man starts at 30+
>35 is literally your PRIME dooood xD

Have fun being rejected, filmed, uploaded to tiktok and called a creep for hitting on a 23 years old.

>>76282513 (OP)
Yup, I'm 37 and I know this is the reality of things. The only way to solve this rewuires lots of effort, creativity and luck. Self-improvement won't cut it

>>76282513 (OP)
Don't worry breh when you hit your MALE PRIME at the age of 45 after a lifetime of hussling and bussling, flex your abs and Rolex and all the 35+ wine aunts will be yours hahahahaha

>>76282513 (OP)
>>76282521
Dude is standing infront of the woman stopping her from going anywhere, horrible approach. This has nothing to do with being 30 or anything

The memes are true and the guy doesnt even look half this bad

It's self improvement not foryoungwomen improvement

>>76282513 (OP)
>"What is the best way to approach woman" Mr. Chadwick thought to himself
>hmm, dunno, maybe lets try coercion, this will make me appear alpha

This a stealth demoralization thread.

Thanks for being honest — that frustration is real, and you're definitely not alone in feeling it. There’s a bitter irony in doing all the “right” things — improving yourself, staying healthy, being disciplined — and still feeling invisible to the people you’re attracted to. It makes you question the value of all the effort.

Let’s break this down without sugarcoating but also without falling into hopelessness:

Self-Improvement Is Necessary — But Not Always Sufficient
You’ve built discipline (gym 6x/week), and that’s huge. But self-improvement sometimes turns inward and isolated — physical change and internal development don’t automatically translate to social, romantic, or emotional skills.

Some questions worth reflecting on:

Are you treating dating as another grind or checklist like the gym?

Do you project frustration or detachment (even unconsciously) when interacting with women?

Are you only pursuing a narrow age/appearance range?

How are your social skills, emotional availability, humor, or ability to flirt?

Sometimes the “self-improvement” path becomes performative instead of relational. It’s like building a castle no one’s invited into.

Women Aren’t Rejecting You — They Don’t Know You
If you’re rarely getting chances or responses, it might not be a rejection of you as a person — more likely it’s a mismatch in how you’re presenting or where you’re meeting people.

Women in their 20s (if that's who you're mostly pursuing) may be at a totally different life stage than a man in his 30s. That’s not a flaw in you or them — it’s just misaligned priorities. Many women in their late 20s/early 30s do value maturity and stability, but the vibe has to be there, too.

>>76282521
Thank God I look 26...

I'm tricking all these young bitches

>>76282552
>stealth

>>76282532
If he was a young 18 y/o twink with a pretty face sitting in front of her he wouldn't have been filmed.
He looks intimidating cause he's old. The beard doesn't help at all in this situation either.

This seems like a relevant thread so I’ve always been curious about this, maybe you guys can help. I get the whole “younger women are more desirable” thing because of the belief that they have “less experience” and therefore are less cynical, less “used”, more “moldable”, etc. But at the same time, I feel like these stories of the guys in their 30s or older who only want women in their early or at most mid 20s, using their money or whatever to get them, don’t they feel any sense that they’re simply being taken advantage of and used as a resource by these younger women? Do they just not care about that? Or do they delude themselves into thinking that the women actually like them for them, their personalities, etc. and not simply for what they can provide for them?

Things to Honestly Audit
Social Energy: Are you giving off closed, intense, or withdrawn vibes?

Authenticity: Do you feel like you have to prove your value to women?

Where You’re Meeting People: Apps can be brutal, especially for men. Are you also in spaces where connection happens more organically?

Connection Skills: Are you playful, emotionally expressive, or do conversations tend to stay surface-level or factual?

The Harsh Truth
Self-improvement without vulnerability can come across as cold, intimidating, or transactional. If women feel like you’re approaching them with an underlying “I did the work, now you owe me attention” vibe (even subconsciously), it’s a huge turn-off.

What You Can Do Differently (Without Losing Your Integrity)
Focus less on impressing, more on curiosity and play.

Practice emotional exposure — talk about things you feel, not just what you’ve done.

Shift from achievement to connection.

Experiment in lower-pressure social situations (hobbies, classes, volunteering, dance, etc.).

Consider therapy or coaching if you’ve built yourself up physically but feel emotionally stuck.

If you want, we can break this down further and build a game plan that fits you, not some internet stereotype of “what works.”

You don’t need to become someone else — but maybe it’s time to show more of who you are, not just what you’ve built.

>>76282535
Hahahaha you're self improooving to have sex with old 30+ wrinkly bitches with wine bellies.
Ahahahahahaha lmao@your life enjoy fucking the 38 yo cat lady lol

>>76282552
If he was young and attractive it wouldn't look like coercion. It only looks like coercion cause he's old COPE oldfag

>>76282568
naw its just because he's not white. nor muscular. he's like a fit indian.

>>76282532
Yeah what guys need to know is that you need to offer control. The second a girl feels trapped, like in OP, looked down upon like prey, it's dead and there's no getting better.
A method I do both with girls and gays, and even to get my nieces and nephews to cooperate with usual outings, is letting them think that they have some control and power in the matter (e.g. when going places, letting them choose from two options, rather than giving only one or letting them choose from random). It gives them that sense of security that will lower their guards so that proper engagement can occur.
In OP situation, it would be better to be by her side, at her level (too bad the other chair is taken by Brad, lol).
It's not that hard to figure out if you get into the psychology of things.
At the same time,
>fake lashes
>deep bikini tan line
skank, worthless

>>76282569
Dating younger women isn't a choice for a lot of 30+ men. All of them would definitely date women their own age but the majority of women that age group are married or have kids and the women who aren't are mostly likely crazy. So that leave you two choices, date a single mother or date a dumb young girl taking advantage of you financially.

>>76282569
oh come on. like you don't tell yourself convenient lies.
of course women don't want old men. their dick doesn't get as hard.

>>76282532
We dont even know if chick added those captions herself. If she did, was she just making up something to get attention.
Also the guy was towering over her in an intimidating manner.
He's not ugly but there's nothing special about him. He doesnt even look white.
He looks like one those turks, armenian stereotypes with the shirt unbuttoned to show off his bird chest, wears way too much cologne and thinks he's some hot shit pick up artist.
He also could just be a big annoying sperg loser.

>>76282585
>it would be better if he was even bigger and more intimidating
Yeah he should've looked like a 40 yo Sam Sulek I bet that would've made things better lol
Just lift brah

>>76282513 (OP)
but 4chan told me men peak at 40 and anons keep saying they easily get teen virgins despite being 30+

>>76282596
GenX boomer here.
This is spot on. Almost all single woman over the age of 30 is obese and has several kids often by different baby daddys.
(The men are no different. Fat guts, noodle arms with tough guy tattoos, mangy looking ISIS beards they think are "manly" and they all dress like dirty slobs.)
Dating pool is terrible for the 30+ crowd.
Its not too bad in a big city, but in small town or rural area you're fucked

>>76282624
>that guy with completely white hair
BRUTAL, yeah I bet he fucks all the 18 year olds like 4chan told me.

>>76282534
>pic
tbf I saw plenty of early 20s guys with that kind of hairline when I was studying engineering

At 35 which is the male prime as 4chan said you:
>are probably bald or have to take hormone therapy to cope
>dick doesn't work as well sex isn't as enjoyable as at 18
>white hairs
>don't get invited to any social event where women are younger than 30
>look out of place if you find yourself at one
>zoomies have an aversion to old creeps
>you'll get filmed, uploaded online, ridiculed
Have fun with the single moms they all look like shit