Question. Why do people want to be ripped when they’re destined to become a lot weaker over time?

It’s a lot more advantageous to work on experience, cunning, overall quality of life, etc.

Doesn’t matter how strong you are when someone stabs you in the jugular and you bleed out like a bitch. Accidents happen. Circumstance and coincidence kills.

Even someone significantly weaker than you, can kill you, using basic sense. It doesn’t matter how strong you are.

>>76286810 (OP)
Because meatheads think with muscles not brains? I don’t know what to tell you.

>>76286810 (OP)
Hey, you want to get weaker and become feeble or do you want to get weaker and still be stronger than a DC comics fan?

>>76286810 (OP)
Because I can.

>>76286829
What?

For some people it's more about the journey and overcoming personal weakness and doing something they thought to be impossible

>>76286810 (OP)
because they were powerless as children

>>76286835
You know exactly what I mean

>>76286819
Yeah, well, you’ve never heard the saying “the brain is like a muscle”? No? Never?

Being able to think on the spot, to think critically and to avoid something from happening, is a lot more advantageous than being strong.

Guns removed the need for close combat. A frail old man with a shotgun is going to kill a roided bodybuilder every time. Same with a can of pepper spray or hornet spray.

Smarts and cunning and the ability to think and plan accordingly is next gen warfare even—to prevent the fight altogether. Or to end it as soon as it starts.

The future of warfare is a fat greasy fuck masturbating behind a computer screen as he directs drones a thousand miles away to bomb “innocent” sand people.

Why the hell do people think muscles are going to matter outside of industry? Why not plan accordingly? A carefully laid out trap or contingency can take out many adversaries. Pic related.

Cunning IS the superior fighting.

>>76286810 (OP)
>Why do people want to look like a top specimen
Humanity really did move back wards the last 1500 years.
BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE VAIN AND BEING EXOTIC IN THE RIGHT WAY SHOWS EXCEPTIONAL GENETICS
EXCEPTIONAL GENETICS = SEX
SEX = REPRODUCTION
EVEN THE LATE SIMP AND COWARD NIETSCHE KNEW THAT.
GUESS WHY ROMAN EMPERORS ORDERED THE SCULPTORS TO GIVE THEM A FULL HEAD OF HAIR AND WASHBOARD ABS FOR THE AFTERWORD TO LOOK UPON.
GUESS WHY NIETZSCHE WROTE A PHILOSOPHIC BOOK ABOUT BEING A CHAD AND THE MAIN CHARACTER.
NOBODY WANTS TO BE AVERAGE.

>>76286810 (OP)
>>76286845
Fuck you nerd.

Warriors back then were smart and fit.

>>76286865
Nah they were dumb ass himbos who has lots and lots of based gay sex!

>>76286810 (OP)
>Doesn’t matter how strong you are when someone stabs you in the jugular and you bleed out like a bitch
By your logic, why bother working on experience, cunning, or overall quality of life like you suggested when you can just get stabbed and bleed out.
You're fucking retarded. Unironically, kill yourself and leave this board.

Physics/chemistry is fucking terrifying if used correctly. You can kill someone with eye drop solution.

>>76286869
He’s saying you don’t need to be an ape to avoid getting stabbed in the neck, and hanging out with other apes increases your chances of being stabbed in the neck, which is probably true since most gym bros in my area are retarded Arabs and aggressive Muslims.

>>76286810 (OP)
erm dude we're all like heckin stardust and stuff, so don't bother!

>>76286810 (OP)
Why do anything at all if you're going to die anyways? Why shouldn't you kill yourself right now?

>>76286810 (OP)
> Why do people want to be ripped when they’re destined to become a lot weaker over time?
Looking good is one of the biggest advantages you can have, and using strength in real life scenarios is very satisfying.

> It’s a lot more advantageous to work on experience, cunning, overall quality of life, etc
Maybe once upon a time in pre-jewish fantasyland America. There is zero concept of merit in this country.

I once stopped and talked to an 80 year old guy jogging up a mountain i was hiking down. He said each decade of your life, you're preparing for you health in the next decade. Staying in shape will keep you in shape basically. I will be 80 years old jogging up mountains and lifting weights. If you dont stay in shape you will be one if those crippled old people.

>>76287013
>Looking good is one of the biggest advantages you can have
Good luck being born with a chad face

>>76287013
>DA JOOS
kys

>>76287060
Staying in shape =|= Being a ripped ape

Yes you’re meant to move. That’s a no brainer. But you don’t need to be ripped to be healthy. Mental health is also important, and ties into physical health. You feel good because you are good.

But you don’t need to be ripped.

>>76286845
Muscles are health and will save you of a lot a pain and functional loss as you age.

>>76286845
Also what is this larp? What adversaries do you gave except poverty and autism?

The idea is doing both. The gym only takes like 3 hours max out of my day anyways, so yeah

>>76286810 (OP)
Hilarious that you posted an image of Nietzsche because he would disagree with every single point you are making.
He wanted people to make every moment of their lives worthy of the infinite. He wanted people to enter into adversity for its own sake. He loves those who are undergoers because they are also the overgoers.
On the contrary, the people who resign themselves to mediocrity and comfort are what he termed 'the last man'. The most contemptible humans on earth. You OP.

>>76286845
>the brain is like a muscle
I got tendonitis trying to read all that bullshit. If you want to be a fat weak nerd that's great, I'm gonna keep pumping weights and pushing the limits of what I can do.
>Why lift if you'll eventually get frail?
Why not kys if you're gonna die eventually?

>>76286810 (OP)
The stronger you become the less weaker you will be. You've got the first half or so of you life to build a durable foundation to last the second half.

>>76286810 (OP)
all of your odds of survival are improved by lifting you moron

>>76287164
This
OP doesn't understand Nietzsche much like 99% of pseudo turds on internet

>>76287078
doing resistance training is critical for anti-aging, no other form of exercise is as beneficial.

Being cut isn't necessary, but having as large muscles as possible as you get older is extremely important.

>>76287557
Retarded. Don’t talk to me again.

>>76287164
>>76287551
Or maybe you fell for the bait
Many such cases with you roided freaks

>>76287126
>>76287557
If muscle is so important as you age, why do the people who have lived the longest not exercise? They’re just doing daily routine, living activities, etc.

Forgive me if it's a dumb question but I’m genuinely curious. The people who seem to live a long time don't seem to focus on exercise and building muscle mass. Just doing daily activities and moving a lot. Like riding a bike. The oldest woman in the world rode her bike and smoked at the age of 105. She credited her life to… chocolate.

The argument for this I've heard is that humans store the most mitochondria in their heart and brain, not in their muscles (like gorillas). The brain retains itself a lot longer/better than muscles.

>>76287557
Life is in the struggle. To resist what life throws at you.

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/D-XIp4UC-nE

I guess resistance training is a part of that.

>>76288364
If you look at the populations that live the longest. All of them live lives full of work. Be it gardening/farming or even just living in towns that have high elevation changes and a lot of walking. It’s just general life.

When you work a desk job 9-5 you have to have an efficient way to simulate your brain to compensate. Old people retiring isn’t a good thing. They slow down.

>>76286810 (OP)
Cope from someone that doesn't lift. Becoming stronger physically does bring quality of life and doesn't have to be your only avenue of self-improvement

>>76288364
>If muscle is so important as you age, why do the people who have lived the longest not exercise? They’re just doing daily routine, living activities, etc.
There are so many variables to this. Can we really say their lives wouldn't have been improved by lifting? Age isn't the only metric for a well lived life

>>76286810 (OP)
You can literally do both lmao

For most people their training and diet are things they undeniably have personal control to change for better. Like sure, you cannot have choose the best genetics or you might not have money to buy the absolute best foods, but you can at least do a bit better and see some results and it's up to you. That said, you are not "really doing anything" by going to gym or eating better, you are just doing personal maintenance.

Maintenance feels like you are doing work, but it isn't work in a sense that you don't get more money or friends etc. Doing maintenance doesn't do anything by itself. Cleaning your room is also just maintenance even if it feels like work.

I'm pretty sure I have literally changed my gene expression due to healthy lifestyle choices.
I once weighed 100 pounds, now I'm 145 and my entire body is very healthy.
I just introduced supplemental protein into my paradigm and I'm pretty sure I'm about to go super saiyan.
After I go super saiyan, I'm going to remain in that state like Goku during the cell saga.
Then, I might go beyond

Getting old sucks when you're obsessed with figure

>>76286810 (OP)
>Posting defeatist propaganda against getting stronger and becoming a better version of yourself
>Posts the mustache Nietzsche man
>Why become stronger if be weak later
>Isn't it better to focus on experience and quality of life
>Experiences and quality of life that would be better if you were also healthy and strong

What was OPs end game?

>>76286810 (OP)
Not lifting is slave morality anon, only a slave is not allowed to lift. Are you a slave anon?

>>76286819
False dichotomy, the ubermensche is both. You don't know what your real opinions are until you get fit.

>>76286839
Makes sense, untreated childhood trauma explains a lot why people are messed up. Especially when you consider how society treats it's weakest and most vulnerable members, children.

>>76286839
>>76289995
Yeah like I commented previously, it's pretty little spoken fact that people pick up this kind of a hobby because diet and gym program are stuff you can undeniably control, at least to some extent unless you live in total prison conditions.

It might be that "kids" as in soon middle aged people today are more sick than the previous generation between now and ww2, because the ww2 trauma stuff were not properly handled and boomers could just cope with increasing materialism and go to work and buy shit.

Too bad a lot of traumas in 3rd gen are coped today by just not having kids so these kids don't have to come here and suffer. Or maybe in some cases it's for the best.

>>76289993
>the ubermensche is both
Nah. Sages aren’t vain.

>>76286810 (OP)
>Can't have a strong body AND a gun after all. That would be against the rules.
You're coping, fatty.

>>76286810 (OP)
Because it looks cool and feels great. Your logic is essentially why do anything if death is inevitable anyway.

>>76286810 (OP)
kys than you untermesch joke

>>76286810 (OP)
Bodies are tools. You should take good care of your tools so they work well.

>>76286810 (OP)
Because I like to do it

If magic were real strongmen would throw the biggest fireballs

>>76286810 (OP)
Muscles are sexy
Cunning and all that stuff is hot too, but muscles are sexy in a visceral, immediate way

>>76286862
yep, there's the based comment I was looking for

>>76286810 (OP)
It takes 45 minutes every 4 days you got time

>>76288345

>>76286810 (OP)
Question. Why is this an issue for you?

If someone has the wish to build muscle, and has the willpower and dedication to put the time and energy needed to do so into doing that, and are doing so out of their own volition how could anyone begrudge them that choice?

Each individual has the option to pursue the perceived idealization of their own self-image in the manner of their choosing as befits their personality and temperament in any way that does not impinge upon others, whether it be on a intellectual or physiological level, or a combination of both.

Do you feel that if an indivual chooses the physiological level, whether if be for a perceived aesthetic goal or the idea of enhanced longevity, at the expense of what you may consider the more optimal goal of worldly attainment, this is threatening to you?

Does it make you question your own systems of belief?

Nobody is saying you're invincible, but being stronger and harder to kill doesn't hurt. You can do both. Most people that say dumb shit like "heh, you should workout at the library instead!" are usually pseudointellectuals at best anyways. They usually don't have any impressive wit or cunning, no gravitas or personality, and rely on midwiticisms like this as a cope because intellectualism is not outwardly apparent like physical acumen. Everybody knows you are weak, but they have to talk to you to know you're a dumb bitch too.

>>76286810 (OP)
You just have a pathetic inferiority complex and are making this argument out of butthurt. All that you mentioned applies to someone that lifts weights, it's not something you have to dedicate all your time and effort to

>>76286810 (OP)
Strength gets you:
> stronger immune system
> easier aging; stronger bones
> physical advantages
> women like you more
> working out helps with mental acuity
> better sleep
> better themoregulation
> takes 2 hours per week (it's not like you're losing precious time for other endeavors)
> harder to stab you in the jugular if you can overpower someone

I'm not sure why people think it's one or the other. Everyone on earth has 2 free hours per week. The truth is people who work out tend to be more intelligent than those who don't, it's because not working out stems from a lack of motivation that's indivicative of a lazy mind as well. Socrates was fucking jacked btw, it's the first thing anyone who met him would notice.

>>76286810 (OP)
Question: why do people try and accumulate money when inflation and competition will over time devalue it?

>>76294736
>harder to kill
Doesn’t matter how strong you are when a gun will still kill you.

>>76286810 (OP)
why do people do anything if they're just going to die?

>>76294823
Again, your inability to read shows. A gun will still kill you, but that doesn't mean you have to make it easy. A body conditioned to operate under strain will perform better under strenuous circumstances. If you aren't killed outright, you will likely fare better. There's literally no downside to being in better shape. You simply lack the will to do so, because you are a pseud.

>>76294823
>he's not bullet-resistance-maxxing
NGMI

Should i listen to the opinion of women regarding looks? Basically i let my beard grow and i have a long lumberjack beard and 4 girls including my ex gf told me to trim that shit asap, i'm i a cuck if i do so? My most recent gf told me she loves my beard and wants to lick it, who do i trust?

>>76286810 (OP)
More muscle = better health, longer lifespan, enhanced attractiveness = better quality of life

it's really not that complicated bro. You're not some deep philosopher whose "intellectually above" physical fitness

>>76294859
>A gun will still kill you, but that doesn't mean you have to make it easy.
Cute. You think you can outrun a bullet.

>>76286810 (OP)
The man in the image advocates for peak fitness and mental ability, so you already know the answer to your question.