Have women started taking more interest in you since becoming /fit/?
I unironically think I had better luck with women when I was a skinny lanky bastard, now women just seem intimidated by me.

>>76292164 (OP)
Yes and believe it or not I'm a literal manlet (5'5). The catch is that they're all ethnic. I think they assume I'm in their league because I'm short.
Not complaining though, I'm a literal autist whos' too pussy to ever approach a girl.

>>76292164 (OP)
More or less the same.

For you, especially if you're like younger than 25, young women and girls seem to prefer lean fit over muscular fit. That's just my experience though.

I'm the most jacked guy at my work (not saying much in a science field) and some women pinch my arms as they pass by me and lots make harassing comments.

>>76292197
I'm 30 but agree, at my gym all the /fit/ women have twink dyel boyfriends. Zoomies are fucking weird

>>76292198
>harassing comments.
Imagine being such a faggot that you think you're being harassed; they're flirting with you retard

>>76292220
I'm married with a kid they shouldn't make comments like this they should respect the sanctity of marriage.

>>76292230
Based

>>76292230
take 'em to HR "inappropriate and sexually suggestive comments about my body"

>>76292164 (OP)
all women have been taking more interest in me
men are more respectful and seeing me as an authority

If I don't shower for few days and just look like a ancestral human with my beard then yea men will see me as a threat and women will see me as a rapist, but if I dress nicely, smell nicely and shower and have a nice haircut and beard and a smile on my face then nobody will look at me wrongly

>>76292230
just remind them that you're married every time they do that, non directly non confrontationally just do something like reminisce of your wife and kids

>>76292230
Women desire you more when you are married, same happens when they know you have a girlfriend; it makes them want you more.

>>76292164 (OP)
Gym did absolutely nothing for me on that aspect
Growing my hair to cover my big-ass fivehead actually help me getting some bitches

>>76292259
>>76292286
>>76292291
Me and another coworker were discussing how weird it is that women go for married men more and I loudly said something then glared at the worst offenders. Apparently they took that as me challenging them cause a female friend later said they were making even worse comments openly about thinking they could get me to cheat

>>76292164 (OP)
No one talks to me anymore

I kind of feel like my indian woman boss wants to fuck me.

>>76292345
Then do it. If she has good hygiene Indian women can be a good lay, I find

>>76292195
Same boat. 5’4, no interest from white women, asians and indians seem to look twice or mire pretty often.

not really white but most people where I live are so it’s noticeable that none of them want me lmao

>>76292335
>how weird
Not really dude. It's like eating at a restaurant your friend already recommends. They don't have to do any investigation for if you're boyfriend/husband material, you definitely already are.

>>76292164 (OP)
Fat girls try maintaining eye contact with me at Walmart. Some moms, probably single, give me an eye passing by at stores tho their daughters don't give me the time of day, oh how I lament their nubile cold shoulder. Regular chicks, it's like a 50/50 if they notice me, but I'm a bitch so I know I give them the ick. Not sure what it is about average girls, the pretty ones are pretty and living in their beautiful world so they seem pleased someone appreciates their beauty. Average girls must have hoeflation or something, no reason someone that looks like her should be so rude. Horseshoe theory applies to women, bros. Go for the uggos or +7.

>>76292164 (OP)
you're asking the wrong question. it's masculine to pursue a woman and feminine to be pursued. you should be asking 'do women tolerate my advances more than they did before?' but unless you've actually made a move you'll never know how they will respond to it.

they want you to make the first move. it's perfectly normal and natural.

>>76292164 (OP)
I get far more attention from men than I do women...
Y'all mfs gay

>>76292164 (OP)
No
Incel but fat or a twig = incel
Incel + gym = gymcel

mixed race muscular guy here with east asian ancestry south asian ancestry white ancestry black ancestry and hispanic ancestry , started fucking more hot girls since i buzzed my head and got muscles and wore baggy clothes, started larping as a muscular drug dealer like 50 cent

>>76292164 (OP)
A little bit of intimidation is not always bad as long as people quickly learn that you have a good attitude. If you look like a bitch they'll reject you the moment they see you approach, if they're somewhat intimidated they will let you talk to them and then you already have a foot in the door.

>>76292164 (OP)
>weak fat
you're invisible or creepy to them
>strong fat
you're too scary
>lean strong
they want to suck your dick
>lean weak
they see you as a friend. better chances than being fat

Friendliness from women (and weirdly to some extend from men too) is a function of how attractive and muscular you are.
lean>>fat for any given amount of muscle mass.

>>76292278
yea, looking kempt and ""respectable"" is a big one too. I used to have a full unruly beard and messy hair. The first time I shaved off the beard I was surprised by how much people's attitude towards me changed.

But the biggest surprise was losing 20kg. It was like I moved from untouchable status to a different caste.

>>76292164 (OP)
The only woman I talk to is my wife, but she's definitely gotten more handsy since I've been getting fit.

>>76292164 (OP)
No, whenever I fuck my shit up and lose my gain, or work a job that's physical demanding to the point where I can't go to the gym, i.e plumbing, that's when women notice. They only like "tone" guys.

>>76292291
>women desire you more when married
Is this true chat? I was about to marry a girl but I bailed. Did I fuck up? The average beta fatty is getting married these days so I don’t think that’s true

>>76292566
>it's masculine to pursue a woman and feminine to be pursued.
You just told us that you are ugly, women approach men they find hot all the time

>>76292164 (OP)
Friggin teenage girls out in public check me out all the time. They got no shame, lol.
Grown ass women sometimes reciprocate if I check them out, but that's rare. Usually they keep walking like their shit don't stink, as per usual.

>>76292197
You guys are so wrong, younger girls like big muscles and older ones go for skinny guys imo.

>>76293482
Just my experience. Yours may vary

>>76292195
>I think they assume I'm in their league because I'm short.
They're not wrong though.

>>76292164 (OP)

Between being fit and being married/having kids, I get attention from women all the time. It annoys the fuck out of my wife but she knows I won't go astray. Still, the ego boost is nice

>>76292230
>>76292335
I'm also married and it's crazy how many women give zero fucks about flirting with me or hitting on me outright despite knowing that I am married as long as they think there isn't anybody around to shame them for it.

Like obviously men and women are not the same but it seems like it's a far bigger taboo to hit one somebody else's girl between men than it is to hit on somebody else's man between women. Even though jealous women are just as crazy as jealous men in every sense except physical.

>>76292164 (OP)
I used to be very handsome when I was a teen. I would get lots of attention from girls. Then after college I gained like 120lbs and girls were still nice to me but it felt like pity. Currently I've been working out for a year and I'm still obese (on the cusp of overweight) but women are paying attention to me again in a non pity way.

>>76293482
You're delusional. Younger girls like thin guys, they think that muscular is disgusting. That's why boy band members are all twinks and not like John Cena

>>76292164 (OP)
>Doesn’t know that intimidation and arousal are linked with women

Normie alert

>>76292198
Yea I’d go full blown Karen mode and do everything I can to get them fired. Welcome to equality mother fuckers.
>>76292230
Also based

>>76292195
Ethnic girls are hot though. You wouldn't fuck some cute petite ethnic girls and bogged plastic ethnic bimbos?

>>76292164 (OP)
Anyone else get groped by older women? They love feeling me up when I ask them questions (I deliver stuff to warehouses)

>>76293450
He’s right tho, the only girls that approach men are absolutely run through whores. The average girl is even more scared than the average 4channer.

If you sit around and wait for them, your gonna get the table scraps.

>>76293770
Touch grass. The average guy is obese

>>76292164 (OP)
Na youre just ugly
I've been getting way more looks, straight up staring, approached, ect, it's pretty tight but I also fuckin hate sluts so there's that.

>>76293770
We like the ones that are legal, chomo

>>76293868
>Touch grass. The average guy is obese
And?

>>76292230
>>76292291
>>76292335
>>76293576
I wonder if women flirt with married men because things inherently go slower. If a woman flirts with a man in an obvious way that even a neanderthal would know he's being flirted with, the man will probably drop everything they're doing and try to have sex immediately. If a woman flirts with a married man it's very low commitment, they're just spitting game, they have to keep him on the hook and reel him in because there's resistance for once. This may be the only time the roles reverse.

>>76293888
Checked, the sophomores and up around my highschool were getting plowed by 25+ roiders. But im in the mid west.

I dont see any difference now, especially with movies being the standard is Chris Hemsworth is considered natty.

>>76293905
Lately i have been seeing only tall lanklets with gf, average height and good face is even nerfed right now, manlet? don't even think about. Just be tall and handsome

>>76293899
Chicks are filthy sluts, all of them. Yesterday, the married mother at the next table was eyefucking me so hard her husband noticed and turned around twice to see what she was looking at--me. I'm convinced she woulda ditched both her fat husband and her toddler daughter to find a hotel room with me for the afternoon without even thinking twice about it.

I've gotten lots of compliments, especially when shirtless, but the biggest game changer was the confidence I gained by getting fit. My new build would only take me so far without being able to flirt and confidently ask girls out.

>>76293899
Most women don't flirt with married men with the explicit intention of wanting to have sex with that man, but rather for the validation of knowing that they can make another woman's man falter at least for a moment.

>>76292198
same I work in retail and have had my back and arms groped by numerous co-workers

idk what to do I just want to exist

>>76293971
>same I work in retail and have had my back and arms groped by numerous co-workers
wtf? I've never expirienced this despite lifting for 8 years, how big do you have to be?

>>76293971
It’s called telling them to fuck off then reporting them for sexual harassment if they don’t. If HR doesn’t take your seriously because you’re a man then tell them you identify as a woman and that they are condoning the harassment and rape of women by not doing anything. We live in a clown world. Use the retarded clown logic to your advantage

One hundred billion percent, but ONLY when I got lean. Muscles on a >15% bodyfat guy are like tits on a fat chick. A girl that flaked on me when I was skinnyfat now constantly comments on my body and has called me hot on several occasions. I definitely get flirted with a lot more at work and in social settings. Both women and (heterosexual) men seem genuinely happier to talk to me. If you put effort into yourself other people will notice and find it attractive. Think about yourself with women, do you like the chubby girl with shitty hair and half-assed makeup or the girl that obviously takes care of themselves? Same for women with men, it's not that complicated.

>>76293988
just have 16+ inch arms with some veins going and a classic V taper and you're harassment ready

>>76293899
Nope. It’s purely as an ego boost and to try and fuck over another woman by stealing her man. Women as a whole are depraved sluts if left to the own devices. This is why practically every religion preaches that men should control women and protect them from other men as well as themselves since they will ruin every around them and turn themselves into slaves or prostitutes if unchecked chance why modern society is a fucking mess with women running around doing whatever they want without shame or consequence. Also a woman’s worst enemy (besides themselves) are other women. They literally go out of their way to fuck each other over. It’s instinctual.
Also women have no game.

>>76293428
Same with my wife. She really enjoys it.

>>76293428
Yeah, same here, ever since I dropped 40 lbs, my wife’s been initiating way more often

>>76292291
This
When I was married girls saw that ring and flirted
Now I'm divorced and I get nothin
But at least I'm happy

>>76294236
Bro you have the perfect opportunity
>put the ring on
>get tons of attention
>lead women on
>"I shouldn't, I have a wife"
>fuck as many women as you want
>pick the best one
>pretend to leave your wife for her

Women have always been afraid of me.
190cm, ugly as fuck and autist

>>76293913
You're not the only person who's watched Eyes Wide Shut, loser

>>76292566
You're retarded, I'm not expecting women to make the first move but they will subtlety check men out if they're attracted and that's the green light to pursue them.

>>76293780
I think that's why my ex gf fell for me, she was massively into being dominated and overpowered, unfortunately she was an absolute BPD case.

>>76292343
time to LDAR

>>76292164 (OP)
i have not touched a woman sexually in 11+ years

>>76292164 (OP)
I don't care about woman opinion. I only lift for myself to look better and be stronger.

>>76294680
All women get off on being dominated by a guy who could easily kill them if he wanted to. This is literally why the “bad boy” stereotype exists and why almost every evil dictator in history has had a wife (or wives) and kids. Crazy bitches are just more extreme about it

>>76292164 (OP)
Yes, mostly milfs though.

>>76292230
Stay based anon.

>>76292487
>>76292195
5'5" as well here.

I do get IOIs from cute white girls once in a while, but tend to get interest from black girls a lot more and they are usually more direct about it. No experience with asians.

>>76293312
>Friendliness from women (and weirdly to some extend from men too) is a function of how attractive and muscular you are.
Being seen as 'friendly' and inoffensive by women is the polar opposite of being seen as sexually attractive.

Polarizing and intimidating men are far more sexually successful than mild, approachable and friendly men. Being somewhat intimidating to women is a natural byproduct of virility.
The biggest reason sex falls off so much after marriage is that living together builds familiarity and comfort, these things are anti-aphrodisiacs.

You don't want to be seen as the friendly, inoffensive, comfort guy, because you might as well be an eunuch for them at that point. You want women to feel your have raw sexual energy and realize you're unashamed of it.

>>76293246
Mogus?

>>76292164 (OP)
Way more.

In high school, as a varsity athlete, I got a lot of interest from women. I didn't take advantage of it because I was a giant sperg with no confidence, but looking back women were definitely interested in me.

During college, I gained like 80+ pounds and suddenly women stopped paying attention to me.

About a year ago, I started lifting weights and have gotten noticeably more muscular, resulting in women paying attention to me now. I catch women regularly miring me and even have girls approach me to give me their number at the bar. I even had one girl walk up to me, stick her tongue down my throat, and call me the most beautiful man she ever saw.

The scary thing is that I'm still like 240 lbs and at around 25% body fat. Once I cut down to like 210 lbs and 15% body fat, the world will be my oyster.

>>76295022
(Women avoid anon and this is how he rationalizes it)

There's nothing that gives me the ick more than a man who has to train to be fit.

>>76295245
>Once I cut down to like 210 lbs and 15% body fat, the world will be my oyster.
yeah that wont happen

I notice when I don’t jerk off and I’m lifting a lot my testosterone is through the roof and I have violent sexual fantasies. I keep going back to me a girl deepthroating me and using one hand to pull her hair upward while she’s on her knees to keep her in place and then using a machete to chop her head off with the other and then I slam dunk her head into the top tank part of my toilet

>>76295393
You just outed yourself bro. He’s completely correct. Speaking from experience and not just “muh redpill” talking points.

>>76292164 (OP)
>Have women started taking more interest in you since becoming /fit/?
Yes. It's crazy how much more attention I'm getting from women and how much more they are smiling and starting casual talk with me. Unfortunately I have turbo autism. So when I start talking it's over and most don't even speak to me again. The few women that continue to talk to me because they think "I can fix him" are in for a nasty surprise because I reveal to them my huge insecurities, my huge lack of experience and basic social etiquette and they should discover my complete lack of self esteem and huge self hate. So a very uncomfortable last "date" follows where they cry, leave and they block me on social media. It's so over.

>>76292164 (OP)
yeah you're still in twink mode mentally. i had that same problem. if you're an edgelord or a noodle by heart, muscle won't help you, it'll just put you out of your comfort zone and you'll have to learn to carry it gracefully.
but also women are fickle, some just like twoonks, other like fat retards, i'm not joking, women standards are weird

>>76292195
Conquering foreign wombs is in our DNA. You’re lucky

>>76292164 (OP)
I get attention from women but I’m autistic so I never speak to them or my spaghetti falls out when they speak to me. Truly a curse

>>76295433
It's observably false and is definitely terminally online bs. Where exactly do you see women avoiding attractive men but are friendly with the 3/10 incels? People make themselves available to those they're attracted to. If you approach a girl and she seems "intimidated" or uncomfortable around you, it doesn't mean they secretly want to fuck you bro it means they're not attracted to you.

I get that part of the original post is saying "don't try to come across as the friendly inoffensive asexual guy" which is valid, but other people being friendly towards you absolutely is a sign that you are attractive. Both men and women will treat you better if you're a 8/10 than if you're a 4/10. If people are generally dismissive of your existence, you're not attractive. If girls don't regularly come onto you, you're not attractive. I've experienced both sides. A few years ago when I was skinnyfat and didn't put any effort into my appearance most people were, while not rude, not really enthused by my presence or sought me out. Now it's the complete opposite. Last time I went to a club I had a group of guys shooting the shit with me in line and inviting me to drink with them, multiple girls approached me hitting on me, etc. Literally today a new girl at work felt me up. And I am not even where I want to be at.

My point being, people absolutely are friendlier if you are attractive. If people are not friendly and women don't make themselves available to you/approach you then you are probably not attractive.

>>76295557
>completely ignores the topic and changes subject
>writes a whole essay sperging out about the topic you invented
Are you a woman by chance?

>>76295568
Are you retarded by any chance? Look at what >>76295022 was responding to. He was clearly arguing against the fact that other people being friendly with you is a function of how attractive you are.

>>76295557
>It's observably false
It's observably true and that "friendzone" is a wildly known and used concept across the globe is one among many proofs of it

>>76295593
I don’t give a fuck about what he was replying to. I responded to what he said. Your brain is smooth

>>76292195
Banging mid black, latina, and asian chicks because they're low hanging fruit if you are white, not fat, and not facially deformed is the white equivalent of going down the path of the plapjak.

>>76292164 (OP)
I don't meet women in relaxed social settings so no, not really.
I do indeed lift for myself though, I used to lift purely out of vanity and for female attention then it shifted once I realised I get depressed unless I keep my routine up and I do like seeing visible progress.
>>76295628
What do you want the anon to do though, average white women think they are gods and they spit on short white dudes. You think that passportmaxxers have a choice?

>>76295623
Yeah you got me

>>76294236
They werent flirting with you they just are now confidently able to chat with you as a friend knowing you wont SA them or be interested in them because youre married

>>76295635
>average white women think they are gods and they spit on short white dudes
Literally this
I was at the gas station a few months ago and there's this typical italyjew there. She looks at me, makes a face, and shifts her entire body so she's not facing me. I'm an autist but even I could tell what that means.
It's like first, you're a bitch. Second, you're overweight and wearing slippers and pajama pants in the afternoon, and you still have a big enough ego to assume I'm going to try hitting on you.

So I'm supposed to humiliate myself trying to get with someone like her, meanwhile I've been going out with a pajeeta who organizes dates and pays for my food (I can't stop her). Easy choice which one I'd rather do.

>>76294689
Use your words I don't speak bottom

>>76292164 (OP)
Maybe. I work in a very female industry, all the ones younger than 50 are real nice. And a lot have made comments about my body. but I'm married so who cares.

>>76295946
Actual retard or a woman (same thing)

>>76293269
Dude you ain't gotta list all that shit. Nobody cares.

You're a mutt, just say it, it's fine.

>>76293482
Completely backwards. I was rail thin in high school and fucked all but one girl that I wanted to.

A few years after graduation, the pussywell dried up faster than a cheetah with an ass full of honeybees and the next thing I know, I'm lifting.

Life has never been better.

>>76292230
Instead of this passive aggressive say it loudly and look at them bit, what would happen if you just straight up called out the next one? Say "Hey bitch, what part of don't touch me don't you understand?". Way I see it, women only recognize hard walls built with bricks. And what you did is the equivalent of put up a wire fence that is not even barbed they can jump over whenever they want. People who don't respect basic marriage don't deserve courtesy or respect

>>76292230
Based. I'm the same way with my autistic gf (soon to be fiancée). Normalfag neurotypical women are disgusting shameless monkeybranching whores, they'll openly flirt with or literally grope a taken man while in a relationship themselves. I wish it was still legal to hit them in public and teach them some manners.

>>76293312
>tfw went from weak fat to lean weak and now building into strongfat
Somehow I never learned

>>76293246
A pre-'mogus 'toss. Astonishingly rare. It belongs in a museum!

>>76294680
>absolute BPD case
BPD women don't go BPD mode if they're medicated and not treated like shit. Mine just sucks my dick really hard and is generally obsessed with me and I reciprocate. But yeah the universal CNC fetish they have is interesting.

>>76292164 (OP)
It's mainly a bf% thing if you're tall. If you're a skelly and short, you're just as attractive as a fat bald dude.