free tip for caffeine drinkers: if you can not
a) gain weight and you never feel hungry
b) lose weight and you always feel hungry
your problem may be caffeine.

I've been drinking black tea/coffee since age 11 and in 15 years there wasn't a single day where I would drink pure water. I was always very thin because I never felt hungry. Recently I had to stop consuming drinks for a while and after 2 weeks my anxiety which I suffered from for a decade is gone and I wake up every morning with a feeling of an empty belly that wants food.
Turns out caffeine raises your cortisol levels which induces anxiety, and for some people stress triggers overeating while for others stress blocks their appetite entirely (like me).

It sucks giving up coffee but now my teeth is white my sleep is great and I can finally feel that I'm bulking up instead of feeling like vomit after 2-3 boiled eggs.

>>76293464 (OP)
You're wrong, coffee is healthy

>>76293464 (OP)
But I'm simply better with caffeine. I just did a month without any caffeine, and as soon as I got back on it, my thoughts were clearer, and I was more motivated and optimistic. I'm useless without it.

>>76293476
>>76293743
I want to believe this, but I can't.
I'm 2 months off caffeine. Generally a lot of benefits, but feel like I'm plateauing.
Considering having a coffee tomorrow. I feel like I'm missing out on the antioxidants, and I also just really want a coffee.

>>76294425
the antioxidants from coffee are insane. mostly because of the sheer volume of the staff. for example 8 usually drink 4 coffees truaut the day. thats how many mgs of antioxidants?

>>76294425
You can still get the majority of those from decaf.

>>76293464 (OP)
Sounds like you were drinking way too much of it. It's fine in moderation. Probably even beneficial. I have a cup in the morning, take a big old shit, and then go about my day.

>>76293464 (OP)
>there wasn't a single day where I would drink pure water
Your problem has nothing to do with coffee and everything to do with this

>>76293743
same, the negative side effects that people report with sleep and stress are pretty much nonexistent for me, I feel like if you follow the 2 golden rules (only drink coffee in the morning and don't drink black coffee on an empty stomach) you're fine

>>76294498
decaf is toxic as shit unless you buy some expensive exotic shit tho

CAPTCHA: KKKP8

It's always the guys who formerly drank a liter of coffee a day who come around proselytizing about the evils of caffeine.

>>76294901
>a liter
that's nothing

>>76294425
Imagine being the fag that wrote this post. The absolute state of modern >men :skull_emoji:

>>76295927
>Nigga actually tried using emojis on the 4chins
NGTMI

>>76295927
Considering whether a drug is good or bad for me is bad?
Aight buddy

I feel much better overall without caffeine - stable energy, clear thoughts, good sleep, no anxiety, feels like "no noise" the entire day
But man, I just fucking love the taste and smell of good coffee, and the caffeine rush. It sucks that I get adapted to it extremely quick, then I need to increase the dose of cut it off

IF YOU LIVE OUTSIDE THE COFFEE BELT DO NOT DRINK COFFEE
DO NOT DRINK COFFEE
IT WILL F YOU UP
FR

>>76297055
checked.
kebabgirl.jpg

>>76296590
There’s ways of doing that without sounding like an ass blasted metrosexual. Read your own post again and try not to wince in cringe.

>>76293464 (OP)
Moderation
/thread

>>76293464 (OP)
>I overused coffee and therefore never gained.
>Once I stopped my egregious overuse I got gains.
>Coffee was bad. Not my own lack of self control or education.

>there wasn't a single day where I would drink pure water
Of course, coffee is the culprit.

>>76294425
>a coffee
>>76294491
>4 coffees
Coffee is not a countable noun. Saying "a coffee" is like saying "a oil" or "a wine."

>>76293464 (OP)
coffee is for cowards, real alphas drink red bull

>>76294888
Just make sure whatever Decaf you're buying uses ths swiss water method to extract the caffeine and you'll be fine. It's only slightly more expensive than usual. There's a website to check this.

>>76293464 (OP)
>So if these random symptoms which I just made up affect you, this is the reason why this thing which is universally agreed to be beneficial is not beneficial.

I know but it’s just so hard to quit. I’ve literally kicked the cigarette Jew, the benzodiazepine Jew, and the sleeping pill Jew before but my caffeine addiction has been the hardest to kick.

>>76298219
one cup of coffee in the morning will last entire day and will affect your quality of sleep. The same goes for anxiety. The effect may be small but one cup of coffee will never feel like enough. You will want more coffee once the energy wears out. So you drink one more cup at noon. Then you come home after work and you feel exhausted so you wanna relax and maybe play some games. So you wrap yourself in a cozy blanket and make one more cup of good smelly coffee, and it feels so good and yet here you are, drinking 3 cups of coffee in a day.

and while you were drinking your coffee you could be swallowing down more boiled eggs, more peanuts, more peanut butter, more milkshakes with protein.

One cup of coffee is one cup of lost gains.

>>76298674
Nigga, I've been having one cup of coffee in the morning for years. All that bullshit you typed only happened because you're retarded.

>>76298394
this

>>76298394
Ok, zoomer

>>76293464 (OP)
Drink 4 cups a day, feel great. Maybe you are all just weak cucks.

sleep tracker clocked 28 mins of deep sleep for me last night. during a 7.5 hour sleep
i physically can't stop myself from slamming caffeine i love being wired
i think i haven't felt deep sleep in months cause im always tired and my gains are gonna start eating that deficit of sleep

>>76293464 (OP)
3 hours of low to moderate intensity cardio removes the equivalent of 2 cups of coffee from your body.

Downside: your sweat will smell atrocious.

I heard coffee is good for the liver and I'm an alcoholic so I drink it for health purposes

>>76298893
i am so ready for Jesus to take me

>>76297055
Feels good

>>76298424
This is a biological female.
If this is actually a man then i will fuck him too.

Counterargument: I don't give a fuck and I like caffeine

>>76298394
>>76298832
Real alpha. Lol what a bunch of stupid chodes.

>>76294425
just drink decaf. I'm going to try all decaf tomorrow. I usually get depressed and low energy around 2-4 pm. I work from home and have 1 cup of coffee around 8am. Will decaf fix me?

>>76294888
the MC method isn't more toxic though

Any l-theanine man in?

You guys claim that you like coffee but you've never heard of l-theanine.

>>76299800
post study or fake and gay

>>76299808
Decaf tastes like fucking dishwater. Even tea is preferable.

>>76299906
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-09018-7#Abs1

>>76299808
Try waiting 1.5-2 hours after waking before having your first cup of coffee

>>76299925
Mcdicks tastes fine

>>76299932
>https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-09018-7#Abs1
reducing taurine availability as a way of managing blood cancer =/= taurine gives you blood cancer
dumb fucking nigger

>>76298243
coffee as a liquid isn't countable. coffee as "cups of" is countable, which is implied by OP.

"an oil" and "a wine" are also completely valid under those rules.

>>76300024
cups is not a meaningful measurement without knowing the amount of coffee solids and extraction technique

>>76300049
bruh don't be autist.

"I've had four cups of coffee" or "I've had four coffees" are completely normal things to say

You have to cycle caffeine. At least every other day you don't drink coffee. I drink it 3 days week to coincide with my workouts.

'Sfunny - the only effect coffee has on me is making me want to take a shit - which is convenient first thing in the morning.

>>76293464 (OP)
Coffee does nothing to me; sometimes I drink it everyday, other times I go weeks off of it and it all feels the same.

>>76300049
Holy autism

>>76293464 (OP)
avoiding coffee is a massive waste of time

>>76300049
When people say "I will have a cigarette", they are not referring to a specific amount of nicotine. They are referring to a fuckign cigarette.

Likewise "I will have coffee" refers to drinking a cup of coffee, not the fucking extracted solids of x grams of coffee beans.

Like, are you retarded?

i only drink matcha anyways

>>76302326
Literally the most gay thing you can drink

>>76300957
God damn it why is this guy getting posted again

I drink decaf every day

>>76300049
Either you're pants-on-head retarded or you're such a boozehound that you're used to measuring everything in proof.