Thread 76302982

Any anons deal with this shit? I'm starting antibiotics today and I've already heard
>You'll be cured in two weeks
>It's a months long recovery
and
>It's for life, motherfucker
From multiple different people. Who's right?
I know you're all aware, but CHECK YOURSELF FOR TICKS. I thought I did a good job and look what happened. This shit is the gayest.

>>76302982 (OP)
I did three weeks of doxycycline and got cured fine, but caught it early. It's supposedly very difficult to cure if it is a longstanding infection.

I'm reading that this thing is really prevalent in the States. Thankfully here in the old world we have developed every available space and eradicated the bugs from where people live

>>76303094
>Thankfully here in the old world we have developed every available space and eradicated the bugs from where people live
So you live in a city without meadows and forest near by?
Dang bro.

Good luck, anon.
I won't try to scare you but it's not a good disease... and what people should understand is that the testing is complex. For example, the test has "bands" idk the exact number, 5-6... so, if you take the test after antibiotics, you may have fewer bands potentially or if you test first time... you could have less than all bands, and you could get a false "ALL GOOD" when in fact, you have lyme.. lyme includes a host of other bacteria and stuff that can cause lingering nerve related issues.

Jim Miller in the UFC, I think he has the most wins ever, was diagnosed a few years back and he's still been fighting. Cheers gl.

I get 3 or 4 of these niggers sucking on me every summer, I dont even walk through grass and they still manage to get me

>>76303147
I power walk through tall grass all the time and it seems like they just don't really stick if you're going fast enough; I'm checking all the time and never finding any.

>>76303173
NTA but I think they can smell how good your immune system is based on your sweat

Dad had it and it really fucked him up and he tried to power through it like a dumbass. Granted he was a 72 year old at the time but still. He wasn't well for a long time.

>>76303147
Five years or so ago I got like 12 ticks lashing onto me after a day hiking. Only after leaving the woods and stopping to rest on a bench I noticed them on my legs and upon lifting my shirt I noticed them all around my belly too. Went full panic mode and instead of removing them carefully to take and make sure the heads did not stay in I furiously scratched them off my body with my nails, then went to the pharmacy and bought hydrogen peroxide to wash the bites on the shower.
Spent a few days freaking out about lyme but even more so of encephalitis, fortunately nothing happened.

Since them had another handful of tick bites but so far so good.

>>76303094
It's everywhere here too, also lyme is literally a lab made disease to keep goyim out of the woods. Americans are evil.

>>76302982 (OP)
>>You'll be cured in two weeks
>>It's a months long recovery
>and
>>It's for life, motherfucker
>From multiple different people. Who's right?
it depends, if the bacteria gets into your bone marrow you are fucked for life but otherwise antibiotics will fix ya up

>>76303296
>also lyme is literally a lab made disease
a while back I had a roommate who insisted this too and I though he was bullshiting me so I looked into it
the tl;dr is Lyme has existed in nature for a long ass time, naturalists from the 1700s record the bullseye rash being associated with tick bites, BUT there are also military records of the US govt air dropping ticks en mass onto Cuba during the cold war and god knows our govt did some shady shit
so I don't think it was created in a lab but it probably was made more debilitating around that time
could also be why some people are affected so much more than others, you have both the natural and "government enhanced" strains floating around

>>76302982 (OP)
Lyme disease is a bioweapon created by the US government.

I have faith in a higher power, a purpose to us and the entirety of the universe being here; many spiritual and metaphysical beliefs seem reasonable and possibly factual to me, but I just can't, for the fucking life of me, see how tick-borne (and by extension insect-borne) diseases can fit into any of this.
Getting mauled by an animal? Sure, it's the circle of life, the thrill of survival, one creature taking lives to sustain its own. Dying of a standard disease? Yeah I mean you should get out and enjoy life because you could croak at any moment. Getting killed in an accident? Not nice at all but we brought this upon ourselves with our inventions, no one else to blame. It's all events and trials whatever.
But tick-borne diseases? The tick sucks on you, you either pick it off or it falls off, it couldn't care less about what you do afterwards. It's a total nothing burger happening-wise. But it can kill you for some reason?
If it weren't for these, imagine how much fun you could have running around in the grass, lying and rolling around, wandering in the forest. But no. You either spray stinky chemicals on yourself, wear long clothes and remain paranoid, or significantly increase the still non zero chance of getting one of a multitude of debilitating, possibly fatal diseases every time you're outside in nature. Good job. Why couldn't it have been just a flu? Worst fucking invention in the history of Earth.

>>76302982 (OP)
It took me around 6 months after I went to the doctor before I felt fully normal again, I think I was "stage 2." After the first month or so I was probably 80% back, but for a while I would still occasionally get hot flashes or get abnormally hot while exercising. I honestly don't know how to make the recovery quicker, imo the best you can do is basics like eating and sleeping well and trying to ease back into your normal physical activity. If you have any deficiencies, address them. I also noted that alcohol affected me differently for a while (as in I would feel abnormally bad in the hours after drinking), I'd recommend avoiding it.

>>76304853
Yeah brother that’s why I don’t recommend eating limes. It’s like eating eggs raw and contracting salmonella.

>>76302982 (OP)
It can become a chronic condition that takes years or decades to go away if it is not treated quickly enough after infection.

I've been reading that there's no such thing as Lyme disease and its all psychological or some kind of placebo

My granpa got it and it went undiagnosed for 2 years. He never recovered and ended up getting Parkinson’s also

>>76303127
Does this mean that if I had a negative ELISA test a few months after being bitten I could still have it?

It's a bit like COVID in that it can turn into a chronic condition in some people. Not very well understood. Best of luck

>>76303094
some parts of europe have encephalitis causing diseases which can cripple or kill you

we have them too but theyre much more rare here iirc

>>76304948
Its not that it doesnt exist, its just there are actually different strains of it in America, Western Europe, Eastern Europe. You actually cant read about this in any textbook. My neurology prof has lived all around the world for 40 years and has seen the difference in pathology of disease with his own eyes.

>>76302982 (OP)
Does it really matter? You can't control the recovery time or the cure time. Literally just take the treatment that they're saying you should take and get on with your life. What benefit does complaining about it on an anime website bring you? Seriously dude.

>there is no compelling evidence that classic Lyme disease exists in Australia
it gets tiring winning so much

>>76304948
Its man made disease by bill gates

>>76305462
Yeah but you guys have spoders that will bite your cock off and frogs that shoot poison, not to mention the abos too

>>76305381
>You can't control the recovery time or the cure time. Literally just take the treatment that they're saying you should take and get on with your life.
When I had it, some E.R. dermatologist was trying to cut me loose with a 10-day course of doxycycline. I showed him some articles and successfully argued it up to 21.

>>76306097
Nor sure how that disproves my point

>>76305462
Don't you guys have that fish that swims up your stream and into your urethra when you piss in a lake?

>>76302982 (OP)
Lyme disease can be cured with bee venom

>>76306118
No it can't. Powdered goat liver is literally the only cure

>>76306101
If you research, the cure rate is definitely higher with multi-week antibiotic courses; I wouldn't just settle for whatever the doctor says unless it lines up with that.

>>76306173
Oh, okay. Fair point. Sorry about the miscommunication.

>>76306116
That's in the Amazon forest and it's pretty rare iirc. Freak accident tier.

>>76302982 (OP)
I've had it a few times (grew up in CT and spending a ton of time in the woods) and if you get on antibiotics quick it's not that horrible, I haven't had any long term symptoms. if you clocked the bullseye and got to a doctor early I don't think you have much to worry about

I removed a tick on myself with a knife as a kid.
Huge red patch appeared days after. Didn't feel sick, it went away like a week later.

Am I immune?

>>76302982 (OP)
Ross Douthat wrote a book about his experiences with Lyme disease and the ignorance of the medical community.

I would read this book if I were you.

>>76302982 (OP)
>lyme disease
Doesn't exist. There are only conflicting reports and far-fetched stretches of scientific fantasy that support claims that lyme disease exists and comes from ticks. You are likely just allergic to tick saliva and now the doctors have you on antibiotics, which will destroy your gut and cause your body to produce mutant antibodies.

Im not a conspiracy guy at all but I am 100% sure lyme was developed in a lab in the states and accidentally released.
Knowing you have a disease by a large red bullseye rash presenting on your skin is something only science fiction writers come up with. It was like it was made for war and the scientists thought it would be funny to differentiate infected by a bullseye.

>>76306826
>accidentally

>>76305144
IMO yes,

I don't think the american medically system properly diagnoses and this is in part a parasitic infection and some of them are known to burrow in.

>>76303094
Haha no you kraut fuck. They are everywhere in northern Europe.

>>76303646
this reality, among many others, should help you realize that there is no god or metaphysical realm

>>76302982 (OP)
>Lyme Disease
blood test revealed I had this like 15 years ago. Never did anything against it, never had anything happen bc of it, at least to my knowledge. Whats the deal?

>>76308324
Nah, if anything it shows how fallen and evil man is. We have forgotten our duty as stewards.

>>76308324

You idiots always paint a God as some omnipotent all powerful entity in your convenience to say there aren't any when things are inconvenient.

A being that embodies such a concept called "God" is simply one that just exists above your order of existence and authority over things,but nowhere does it imply it is above everything nor that it has complete power over what it can control.

>>76308349

You idiots always paint humanity as some fallen from grace species in your convenience to generalize it as evil when things are inconvenient.

Throughout recorded history humanity always had fucked up people, we just see it more as there is more of us and better means to document it, but their existence does not mean there were no good people, for we would not know "good" from "evil" were there no examples of both to begin with. Even that which is defined as "good" or "evil" hosts a mix of aspects of subjectivity and objectivity where the fine line is nigh impossible to draw in a universally accepted spot due to the inherent self-interested nature of those that exhibit life.

>>76308339
It's a fake disease.

>>76302982 (OP)
Take the doxy as directed and it will indeed cure you within two weeks.
-t. had it and is cured.

>>76308556
love machine, lime chickpeas, fake disease, she’s chinese

>>76308339
Justin Bieber had this and half his face was left paralyzed

>>76303100
>so you live around mankinds achievement, and not off an interstate with nothing but a dollar general and bitter old fucks?

>>76308556
It's not fake, in fact, it's a bio-weapon. You can literally be burned by it. I got scars from the burns from Lyme disease. Lyme, Connecticut is where it's from, specifically a government lab.
Imagine being *burned* by an infection. Not normal for sure. And a doctor and a nurse agreed on my diagnosis, so it's not fake.

>>76308339
you do realize some people are just immune to things right?

there is no such thing as a pure natural biological weapon.
the very nature of parasitic infections means if every single person gets infected and gets super ill the parasite has no host and eventually dies.
some people are just immune.

Btw some people who get Lyme disease will register as negative for it even though they have symptoms and are infected. Lyme is complicated.

>>76303296
>It's everywhere here too, also lyme is literally a lab made disease to keep goyim out of the woods
Yes.
>Americans are evil.
Except for me.

>>76308613
that’s exactly what happened to me and AIDS. a mosquito bit a diseased homosexual then transferred it to me. no i did not engage in gay sex it took years to to convince my girlfriend i didn’t cheat on her with a twink i still regularly attend couples counseling to mend things

>>76308625
>that’s exactly what happened to me and AIDS. a mosquito bit a diseased homosexual then transferred it to me.

That is supposed to be impossible. Guess you're trolling me. Har har, broskidude.

>>76303354
>I don't think it was created in a lab but it probably was made more debilitating around that time

I cast great doubt on your "naturalists from 1700s" story, but regardless, it's definitely weaponized. Not only did it cause me itching, pain, and nausea, it straight up burned my skin. I have legitimate burns from that shit. Not normal at all. It was like someone was holding a lit lighter to my skin and there was nothing I could do but an ice cold shower. At that time I knew I had to seek out professional help.

>>76308589
Scientifically there is no disease that can be identified as lyme disease.
>it's a bioweapon
It takes 5 tests to maybe determine that someone has lyme disease because there is really no disease that can be identified as lyme disease, including bacterial activity that exists in many conditions. Sounds like a really shitty bio-weapon.

Bro, you pop the fuckers body off immediately and dig out the head later. If you wait for it to detach, or force it to detach, it regurgitates some of the blood it's slurped up to unlock its jaw. This jungle juice of animal blood gets spit into your body and that's where lyme disease comes from.

Zero sympathy.

>>76308653
>It takes 5 tests to maybe determine that someone has lyme disease

No, just one test. Maybe two if you're unlucky is what I'm saying.

>Sounds like a really shitty bio-weapon.
Fucking evil bastards can't do anything right.

>>76308684
>Bro, you pop the fuckers body off immediately and dig out the head later.

Classic bad advice. If anons listen to you, they increase their chances of getting Lyme. Yes, capital L because it came from Lyme, Connecticut.

>>76302982 (OP)
Is there a safe for skin spray or lotion you can put on before bushwalking to prevent these things from latching? Even a spray bottle of white vinegar or something?

>>76308755
he is full of shit dude.

it takes two test, that's the standard and you have to take both.
the first is notorious false positive, but together with the second test it's reasonably accurate (40%) at early diagnosis.
Which is the largest problem with Lyme period.

If you test too early, they won't see Lyme.
If you test too late you will 100% see Lyme, but you will have increasing side effects that last for months/years longer.

>>76308777
The best way to avoid them is to wear boots, socks, and secure your pants over your shoe and to avoid walking through high grass. If you get infected if can be a bitch getting curing since Lyme can "hide" in some people, so I'd not trust some business's claims over securing yourself.

>>76308777
yeah, lemon/lime sprays, peppermint, lavender.
it actually works also, not meme shit.
it interferes with their ability to regulate themselves which stops their oxygen exchange.
Cedearwoods, etc do the same thing.

>>76308786
Yup, yup. The funny thing with Lyme are the bullseye rashes, which aren't rashes, instead it's the body clearing Lyme. Yes, the body naturally fights Lyme, but the trouble is the Lyme manages to survive and infect surrounding areas, and like an anon stated, if it gets into your bone marrow, you're screwed, so doxy has to be taken.

>>76308586
No he's right and you're wrong. Nature is far better than any shithole city. It's not even close.

>>76308796
You can also plant things that encourage opossums because they eat ticks and are immune to Lyme disease, among other diseases.
Honestly, if you can get away with it and not offend your neighbors, if you got leftover food, throw that near your garden. Possums will come. Do that consistently and your property should have some form of protection against it.

here's what you do if one of these fuckers latches on to you. don't squeeze the body or try to tear it off right away.

step 1: don't panic.
step 2: get some tweezers and grab it by the head. it's got a jagged sawblade mouth sticking into you and it's going to be hard to pull it out. it will usually pop out suddenly with a good tug.
step 3: if you are paranoid, save the little bastard in a plastic bag and have it tested by a doctor.

when you're out hiking- wear long pants, long sleeves, and if you need to, tuck your pants into your socks so they can't get under your clothes. they also fall from trees into the neck of your shirts and latch on to your back. so after you go hiking in tall grasses always check yourself for them. take off your shirt and don't forget to check your crotch. they usually don't attach right away and you can just brush them off if they haven't started sucking your blood yet. if you don't want to deal with ticks then stay out of tall grasses and thick brush.

>>76308818
i was watching this milf porno where they’re camping outside and the son says he was bit on the penis by a snake so i’m trying to save her son she sucks the poison out of his dick lol

>>76308792
>>76308796
>>76308808
Thanks anons

>>76302982 (OP)
I got both lyme and alpha gal somehow.

I'm basically allergic to everything except apples and lettuce now lmao. I think about roping every day

>>76308832
Np, stay safe.

>>76308849
Get some doxy for Lyme (look it up) and I don't know what that other crap is. Godspeed!

>>76308873
I'm on long term azithromycin

Never saw a tick my whole life until a few years ago, seen several since. Luckily no issues but I'm very careful. If you feel ANYTHING brush yourself off. They don't latch on immediately.

Doxy 2 weeks if in early stage. If you are exposed to Sun make sure to wear covering clothes, bucket hat and sunscreen as doxy is phototoxicity in longer treatent and high dose.
If in early stage and and sun can not be avoided at all, consult with your doc to switch to amoxicillin.
Other second line ABs are only advised if you are allergic to the first line.
T.doc
Big Pharma pays me

>>76306116
>>76306233
oh my gosh that sounds so scary haha where is this river by chance, I wouldn't want to ACCIDENTALLY end up swimming in a river with a urethra swimming fish haha

>>76308991
lol reminds me of the time this tranny sucked juice out my urethra while Marvin Gaye pumped from the speaker

>>76303363
But it was first described in the 30's. In Sweden

>>76309121
Sounds like revisionism to me. Lyme disease was first documented in Lyme, Connecticut in 1975, where it takes its name from.