What should I do with my hair? I've already ordered finasteride but am increasingly hesitant about taking it. I'm trying to fix other factors like sleep, eating, etc. with mixed success. I already take biotin and a bunch of other vitamins.

I'm midway through college and have been trying to get /fit/ in order to stand out but the hair loss is really throwing a wrench in that.

>>76308853 (OP)
When is the last time you had sex? I'll trade you some hair for some vagoo.

I had far more success with a fin/min topical mix. Easy to apply each morning.
You should also put drops of peppermint oil in your shampoo.

>>76308853 (OP)
Hairlines are genetic. Make it work instead of trying to hide it.

shoulve taken fin a long time ago

making hair grow back isnt as easy as halting the shedding

>>76308853 (OP)
I didn't even take nutrafol until 23.5 and I was still norwood 1 and didn't take fin until 24 but in your case since you're norwood 4A at 20 just live with it it clearly hasn't destroyed you the way even the mere prospect did me

>>76308953
A long time ago? He is only 20

>>76308853 (OP)
nice wifebeater bro, bet you look like you've been to prison god so cool

>>76308853 (OP)
Fin 1mg EOD. You will thank me. No amount of supplements, diet will change your hair than Fin.

>>76308953
I am 22 now and I have been using fin for past 1 year. I have even grown hairs back from fin. 20s is the best time to start using it.

>>76308853 (OP)
Embrace it or shave it. Don't listen to the trannies telling you to take a drug that's used to treat enlarged prostates (finasteride).

>>76308853 (OP)
Just shave your head dork

>>76308957
yeah before he loses the hair

fin + minoxidil then a transplant in 3 years
side effects are bullshit peddled by coping baldlets that didn't start medication in time so now they want you to suffer like them
most hollywood actors are on fin
many more men than you think are on fin
its normal now
women have a million tricks to look good, you only need one

Your really fucked up by not taking fin sooner. Start taking it immediately to salvage what you have left.

>>76309058
He'd have to have been taking that at 18 and sadly that is not a good idea

>>76308853 (OP)
It's so fucking over bro

>>76308853 (OP)
Do nothing. Save money and wait for that PP405 to become available. It's literally a miracle cure according to the literature and they should start rolling it out soon.

>>76309108
>side effects are bullshit peddled by coping baldlets that didn't start medication in time so now they want you to suffer like them
Yeah sure buddy. To any Anon reading this: please do your own research and don't trust trannies on the internet.

>>76308853 (OP)
Ketogonazol shampoo 2%, minoxidil, dermarolling/stamping, fin/dut, healthy lifestyle

>>76308853 (OP)
Do anything you need to keep your hair. If not you will regret for the rest of your life. I Lost mine at 18.

>>76308853 (OP)
>hesitant about taking it
You need to fight for your hair
Hair = life

>>76309280
It comes with serious side effects. You're basically playing Russian roulette with your cock.

>>76308853 (OP)
I mean at that stage you should take fin for sure also sue minoxidil and if that doesnt work ur only real hope is gonna be a transplant, just dont fall for bald propaganda, being bald is gay

>>76309249
its an extremely common drug taken by billions and only a very tiny loud minority, under 1%, reports any kind of side effects, and they are usually proven to be the side effects of something else, such as being fat, being old, being an alcoholic, etc
fin has DECADES of proof its safe with near 0 minimal sides
retarded nigger

>>76309249
cope baldy

>>76309263
This

>>76308853 (OP)
Wear a hat, retard.

>>76309398
You do understand that a 1% chance of such a severe adverse reaction as BECOMING IMPOTENT is pretty fucking significant? 1% is considered a COMMON side effect. Out of a million men that's ten thousand walking around with limp dicks. And that's if it really is just 1%, there are studies that have shown it to be up to 15%.
None of this is difficult to find on your own. So if anyone here is contemplating taking finasteride just do your own research. Don't trust the fin troons and don't take my word for it. Educate yourself on the risks involved.

>>76309242
Won't be out until 2028, he could be norwood 3 by that point

>>76308853 (OP)
If you lose that much hair that young I think you just have to embrace being bald. Pointless to castrate yourself with jew pills when you've already lost the hair battle.

>>76308853 (OP)
>What should I do with my hair?
cut it short, worked for me.
surgery would be fine, but im not gonna take fucking medication for the rest of my life. fuck it and fuck other peoples opinions too

just shave your head
at your age it's novel and almost a fashion statement, when you get older it's just normal

>>76308853 (OP)
your head shape is weird you need to get that hair back asap

>>76308853 (OP)
No problem, just shave it all off and grow a beard, you'll be straight

>>76308853 (OP)
grow a little beard or mustache thank me later

>>76308853 (OP)
3 guard buzz, now, and wait for gt20029/pp405 to come out. do not take finasteride.

Literally just embrace it. Everyone can tell when you're coping and trying to hide something. It's a bad vibe. You have to accept it and just live your life.

>>76309527
Just take a low dose topical (.01%) and if taken liposomal even better. This applies for N1-2, N6 need not reply, you’re too far gone

>>76308853 (OP)
Fenugreek supplement proven to reverse hair loss.

>>76308853 (OP)
OP, download pic related and read it.

Take a fenugreek and a rosemary supplement every day to restore hair growth. Screenshot this post and save the Pic related onto your phone permanently.

>>76308853 (OP)
you can always crush the pills into a minoxidil bottle and use that topically btw
>>76311219
it doesn't
>>76311235
fenugreek ain't good bro it reduces shbg

>>76311341
Whatever dude, have fun with your hairloss then OP.

I take rosemary and fenugreek supplement once per day every night and my hair came back strong.

I'm sticking to rose Mary and fenugreek for life. Don't give a shit about anything else,

>>76311347
the other natural stuff have more evidence to them

>>76309553
Yeah if you're losing it that aggressively that early fin probably isn't going to help, you've just got the aggressive bald gene. Best option would be to get a wig or something if you really want to have "hair"

Stop using shampoo, that causes hairloss. I stopped using it years ago and my hair is thicker now

>>76309128
I wish I could've taken it that early it'd have stopped so much acne and its scarring

>>76311206
All embracers eventually shave. Pic related the prime example embracels always give

>>76311542
Niggers will risk becoming impotent but they'll never consider dropping the poo jew.

>>76311592
Well yeah eventually your hairline crosses the event horizon and you have to shave because nobody looks good with a skullet. But until then, embracing your natural hairline exudes confidence and will do much more for you than anxiety, combovers, and rubbing chemical goyslop on your head.

>>76308953
Fin gives you depression, makes your dick stop working, makes you gay, and then finally makes you trans. Just look at Pedro Pascal, Hasan Piker etc.

>>76308853 (OP)
shave it of hairsystem, don't do tranny dugs it will sooner or later fuck you up.

>>76309398
>taken by billions

>>76312468
That's why you do topical fin, duh.

>>76312470
>they care about going bald
>all of them are clearly gayer than the gayest man you've ever met in real life
Is this a pattern I see before me

>>76309527
>1% chance of such a severe adverse reaction as BECOMING IMPOTENT is pretty fucking significant
The whole sexual impotence thing strikes me more of correlation than causation. It is wholly unremarkable to me that a fraction of older men, whose dicks stop working every day even when they are not on finasteride, would have their dicks stop working on finasteride. Has any of this shit actually been cross-checked with age and other factors?

>>76312480
I can say anecdotally that my sex drive was massively reduced when I was on it for a short while. Also had very weak watery semen. Shit ain't good for your balls that's for sure. It's fine once you stop though unless you're super unlucky enough to get long term sides.

>>76312488
So you're saying after you stopped taking it, your sides were gone?

>>76312480
> you say there's a reliable chance I could become infertile, damage my testosterone, and resort to poking my weewee impotently hoping it reacts to my beautiful fat ass wife getting pounded to oblivion by a man with an 8-inch magnum cawk with hydroponic girth?
> and then my daughter will DRINK the milked NUT from her OWN mother's GAPING PUSSY?
>
> I wanna see some cross-checked factors and meta-analysis first sweaty

>>76312493
Yes

>>76312502

>>76312506
What did xhis latinx mean by this? We will never know

>>76312500
kek

>>76312506
>>76312513
Nvm I get it, I'm retarded

>>76312519
WAGMI

>>76308853 (OP)
Hey, anon. To answer your question, hop on fin (1 mg, 3x - 7x a week based on your own results) if you wish to keep what hair you have. Add min if you see some regrowth. If you don't, you may as well give up on your hair. I'm not saying that's even the wrong course of action, but I don't want you to waste times with ineffective treatments. I had done the same, and it cost me an additional 1/2" of ground.

Rosemary blocks dht production, which is what causes hair loss, if you stop dht production or even lower it significantly you stop the hair loss.

Fenugreek activates hair growth, so if you take a rosemary supplement and a fenugreek Greek supplement at the same time you will stop the loss of hair and, due to fenugreek, cause hair to regrow.

>>76312692
weak ass shit even for a natural treatment

>>76308853 (OP)
>Powerhsitting
>Keto
>Protein shakes
Daily reminder the balding epidemic started with the SS trend.

>>76308853 (OP)
My hairline is similar to yours and I'm 21 now. I started minoxidil about 18 months ago and it hasn't gotten worse since. I doubt it can be reversed, but it can at least be stopped

>>76308853 (OP)
it's... gorgeous... the eurasian male skull... so... bald and clean..

thank god i'm not white

>>76308853 (OP)
The hell? Are you Mike Love? If so, it's probably over for you, Mike. But at least in the next years you will write Kokomo. ARUBA!

>>76312468
Finasteride doesn't have any side effects. It's dutasteride which makes you gay.

>>76314053
Needs a bump specially for it.

Okay here's some real advice from a boomer who's pushing 40.

The reality is this: no matter what you do, there will be people who make fun of you for it. E.g. if you take fin or get a HT people will call you vain, superficial, insecure, etc... On the other hand if you shave your head people will make fun of you and call you baldie, slaphead, egghead, and so on.

So it comes down to what makes you feel good about yourself. You're young so there's a good chance that treatments can help you but at the same time that's quite aggressive hairloss for a 20 year old. Shaving it might be the best call for you. Depends how badly you want to keep your hair.

>>76314718
This isn't bad advice, as an older anon myself I'd agree with the shaving it route, and accepting what God almighty intends for you. Embrace it and move on, OP - focus instead on the aspects of your life you can control, like improving your body and mind, and save yourself hours and hours of checking your hair, combing it just right, worrying about wind and rain, constantly being self-conscious of it etc etc etc.

I tried the fin route, and ultimately can confirm it's not worth it. Taking these pills is a constant reminder of how vain we are in desperately (and pathetically) clinging onto youth/looks, for the sake of hair that eventually thins despite the fin, and turns grey. Can you imagine how much of a turn off it is for girls to find out you are so insecure that you take a hormone pill for thinning hair? Even worse, there are always side effects - it stops your dick working properly. It is honestly better to be bald and virile than being a mop-top with a limp dick!

>>76308853 (OP)
>I'm trying to fix other factors like sleep, eating, etc. with mixed success. I already take biotin and a bunch of other vitamins.
all of that shit doesn't impact your hair at the slightest, it's midwit cope
look at homeless drug addicted hobos or auschwitz prisoners, they often have/had IMACULATE hairlines your healthy fit ass could only dream of

>bunch of men trying to look pretty
lmao get over it, grow up

>>76314765
>>76314718
As a 32 year old man with full head of hair, i can understand from my balding friends, how truly cucked being a baldie really is and I will explain why: Basically friend A is very religious Orthodox Christian and he is anti-fin, anti-hair transplant you name it, he is what God gave him but even he, he can't accept it. He was once telling me that hair is power and despite his aggressive norwood the little hair he had he tool praise on it, he even made fun of baldies. Somehow it's just human nature and you cannot escape it.

On the other hand there is my fin friend. Atheist, he just chases hoes and his life resolves around meeting women. He is on fin, minoxidil and he even tried having a hair translplant which it failed. And even him is coping that hair doesn't matter. They just can't accept the fact that they are balding. It's so fucking insane.

Never trust bald men

>>76314858
Both of those guys fuck more than you and make you feel insecure and gay.

The way you type also makes me think you are eastern european and should therefore be euthanised for the good of humanity.

I started taking topical fin at 23 and my hairline has been mostly the same since then. I have mediocre side effects, my errections have been a bit weaker since I started taking it. I don't regret it at all though.
What I regret is listening to my doctor at 21 when the first signs of balding showed

>>76314929
Ok baldie

>>76308853 (OP)
Listen up man, as someone who starting balding at 16 and i was norwood 3 going on norwood 4 at age 21 and having to shave my head to go to my college classes it was the most humiluating and demoralizing the time of my life. Now at age 24 i have thick full hair and norwood 1 hairline and better hair than 99% of people in public.

You need to do 2 things
1. you need to slow down or stop your balding, and thicken up the hairs in the middle and crown area.
2. you need to get a hair transplant to lower your hairline by an inch and fill the temples.

Some tips for point #1 to stop your balding:
-You need to get your vitamin D in the 40-60 range immediately. And not through pills you need to be walking in the sun all day without wearing a hat for hours everyday. literally homelessmaxxing. (sunlight increases dopamine, lowers prolactin, increase hair ATP, and increases vitamin D) This is the most important thing. its summer time right now if you're NEETmaxxing just start walking around all day in the sun without a HAT this is very important that the sunlight actually hits the scalp and hair follicles which are alive organs.

-And just stop wearing hats in general. not because of muh bloodflow restriction to scalp (thats debunked) but because hats are a hotbed of fungus and wearing the same sweaty hat multiple times in a row WILL cause fungal overgrowth. If you HAVE to wear a hat buy 7 hats and wear a different one everyday and wash it after every use. There is a reason ketoconazole - an anti-fungal is part of the "big 3" for hairloss. alot of balding guys are fucking themselves over with fungal overgrowth by wearing the same 3 hats all the time and not showering enough.

>>76315291
(cont.)
I dont recommend taking ketoconazole (lowers DHT) you can replicate the same antifungal effects from washing your hair with some backing soda. just dissolve a few tablespoons of baking soda in some water and pour it on your head in the shower and let it sit for a few minutes and massage it in. If you feel less "DHT itch" and scalp tension after doing this than congrats you had fungal overgrowth on your scalp.


-Do NOT take finasteride.

-Now for the most important points. YOU need to lower your estrogen / prolactin levels and keep your gut free of endotoxin.
-To lower estrogen do these things:
1. Supplement with a 325mg aspirin daily (gericare brand is clean)
2. Eat a carrot salad daily. the carrot will wipe your gut clean of estrogen and endotoxin. Did you know that 90% of serotonin (inflammatory turpor hormone) is created in the gut? and a big portion of estrogen is excreted through the gut and shitting? What does this mean? You need to be pooping at least 1 to 2 times daily and not have these inflammatory hormones fermenting in your gut to be reabsorbed. GUT inflammation is everything. Start counting how many poops you have a day. If you are not pooping 1-2 times. Increase coffee intake and supplement magnesium these will cause bowel movements.

-Make sure you are getting adequate sodium. salt your eggs meat fish to taste. (salt lowers aldosterone which is heavily implicated in balding)
-coconut water / milk / freshly squeezed oj for optimal potassium levels.

-Have 1-2oz liver once a week AND Have canned oysters in olive oil 1-2 a week to cover your micronutrients just to make sure you aren't deficient in some random micronutrient like zinc copper or b-vitamins.

-If you have the willpower; light scalp massage with fingertips / knuckles few minutes daily (10-20min) (lowers scalp cortisol / breaks up fibrotic scalp)

>>76315296
(cont.)
-stop eating PUFA immediately. No more chips or fast food cook in sneed oils. Try to get your PUFA under 15grams a day ideally. Increased PUFA intake is probably he reason for the early balding epidemic. its extremely pro inflammatory and we need to get you body to relax so it has enough energy to regrow your hair. You need to eat easily digesting real food. Milk, eggs, fruits (frozen / juiced / whole), ground beef, potatoes/bread/rice. Increase your carbohydrate intake and lower your protein intake slightly. You want abundant energy without eating pro inflammatory foods. You need to be eating maintenance or in a slight surplus. Do NOT start running marathons everyweek you need your body to relax. Walking in the sun and short high intensity lifting sessions 20-30min is the only exercise you should do.

2. hair transplant.
You look like you need around 3500 grafts for good density and a natural hairline. it should come out to 5-6 grand at most high end places in turkey or Thailand (not including travel fees). i got mine done with Dr.patty in Thailand. highly recommend. go on r/hairtransplants for reviews and pick a doctor with a good track record. r/hairtransplants is a lifesaver for not getting botched by some rando in turkey.
(Yes you can get a transplant at age 20. go on r/hairtransplants and see people who got them young i got mine at 23. you can just lie to the doctor that youve been taking fin/min for a year and that your hairloss is stabilized nobody cares)

>>76315312
(cont.)
-the combo of not wearing hats, walking in the sun all day, lowering your gut inflammation and total body inflammation, increasing carbohydrate intake and lowering fat and protein intake slightly, eating easily digesting foods that cause 1-2 bowel movements a day (drinking sugared milk coffee and supplementing magnesium to facilitate bowel movements). Covering all your micronutrients with liver oysters egg yolks milk, salting your foods and getting 3-4grams of potassium daily. and taking showers with baking soda will most likely cure your hairloss.

A blood lab would be useful you likely have either elevated prolactin / estrogen / dhea-s / dysregulated calcium metabolism. Get a blood test for Prolactin ASAP. if you above 20 prolactin this is most likely the cause of your hairloss.