>Just CICO bro, you need to lower your calories

Is this Klinefelter's

>>76313620 (OP)
Did your mom drop you on your head when you were little? CICO is the formula for gaining or losing weight. If you want to gain muscle (which you should), you obviously need to work out.

>>76313620 (OP)
you should get your hormone levels checked first

>>76313628
Recomp right brah?

>>76313620 (OP)
Yes, absolutely. The reality is few people have it in them to stick with a caloric deficit long enough to see real results. Like a skinnyfat like in the pic will be about 20% bodyfat (so at 153 pounds, that would be about 14 kg of fat), and even in a strict starvation diet it would take several days to burn a single kilo; and the fatter you are, the less noticeable individual kgs are. So he could not eat for a whole week and still not really see visible results, at which point he would go back to eating hot pockets and watching anime. Working out helps obviously, best even the best workouts for burning fat (several mile jogs) only burn a few hundred calories, so the key to best utilizing CICO is prolonged habit changes.

>>76313620 (OP)
yes? i dont care if he has small frame and skinny arms, he still has incredibly high bodyfat in the chest and mid section

>>76313620 (OP)
What part of eat less move more you niggers don't understand? Literally just fucking eat less. ~7000 calories = 1kg of fat.

>>76313747
That’s more than 20% bodyfat, more like 25% or even 30%.

>>76313620 (OP)
i want to play with his tummy

>>76313818
guy has like no fat outside the torso though

>>76314435
he also has no musclemass which increases his bodyfat percentage

>>76313620 (OP)
its over 4 u

>>76313620 (OP)
Gotta up the CO levels, more musculature for passive, more cardio for active.

>>76313620 (OP)
Reddit reposts should be a banable offense.

>>76314694
Why? Reddit is such a gold mine for dysgenic bodies

Eat to maintenance then burn a lot of calories on the stepmaster

>>76316230
Don’t bump obvious bait retard

>surely this picture of a person with a hormonal defect like klinefelters will disprove thermodynamics!
...ok?

>>76316239
>disprove thermodynamics
ppl always claim that’s not what they’re saying with “CICO”

>>76316242
can you learn english and the re-type this into a coherent sentence?

>>76316245
If you can’t infer the meaning you’re low IQ

>>76313620 (OP)
This is a cursed nopoop physique.

>>76316239
It does prove CICO is meaningless since the CO is genetic

>>76317429
>math isn't real because you can add 3 to 5

No matter how much you cut you're not gonna look good at that level of muscularity. There is no short-term or long-term benefit to cutting at your current stage.
Lift as hard as you can and don't worry about nutrition past your protein intake for now. You can decide whether you want to bulk or cut later when you're at the end of your noobie gains phase.

inb4
>NOOOOOO but I wanna be le twink mode
>NOOOOOO but I wanna be lean and athletic
>NOOOOOO but I wanna have these very specific ratios
You won't care about any of this shit once you start gaining muscle. Just do as I say and stop worrying about this dorky shit.

>>76313620 (OP)
CICO isn't real because the laws of thermodynamics apply to closed systems and the human body is not one of those.

>>76317867
That's really weird because every time it's ever been done, it's worked.

>>76317867
The statement is false.

CICO (Calories In, Calories Out) is real and does align with the laws of thermodynamics, even though the human body is not a perfectly closed system.

Here’s a breakdown:

What’s true:

The human body is not a closed system. It’s an open system that exchanges energy and matter with the environment (through food, heat, work, waste, etc.).

The laws of thermodynamics were originally formulated for idealized systems, but they still apply to open systems like the human body. In fact, thermodynamics has specific equations and principles for open systems, which are widely used in biology and physiology.


What’s false:

Saying "CICO isn't real" misunderstands both the concept of CICO and how thermodynamics works.

CICO is simply a practical expression of energy balance: if you take in more energy than you expend, you store it (usually as fat); if you expend more than you take in, you lose weight. This has been demonstrated repeatedly in metabolic studies.


Important nuance:

CICO is real, but it’s not always simple. Many factors affect both sides of the equation:

Calories In: affected by digestion, absorption efficiency, food quality, gut microbiome, etc.

Calories Out: affected by basal metabolic rate (BMR), physical activity, NEAT (non-exercise activity thermogenesis), thermic effect of food, hormonal status, etc.


In summary:

CICO is a valid, thermodynamically sound principle. The complexity of human metabolism doesn't invalidate it — it just means real-world application requires nuance and context.

>>76317870
How many calories does op need to eat?

>>76318514
assuming hes sedentary, as he looks like it, he would need to eat 1541 calories a day to lose a pound a week
1041 calories for two pounds a week, but that would be psycho

>>76317867
>eh, close enough

>>76318514
What is the volume of the moon?

>>76318524
>1041 calories for two pounds a week, but that would be retarded
ftfy
I did that, gave me RSI in no time until I started counting my protons, then fucked the rest of my life up by fucking up most of my tendons, ligaments, joints, entheses and so on. 11 years later and I'm still half-crippled

>>76317429
hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Very true op... I look worse than your picture because I lost 100 pounds by eating 400 calories a day with no excercise.

>>76317867
lel

>>76313620 (OP)
you forgot to lift weights and eat protein little gulp